#📨・meta-help
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maybe u could use Dante for fire too 
If that Selena of yours is SS0, then SSS Vergil phys better
Same for SSS Dante if dont have SSS Pyro
well my fire is SS3
Cott-
all my units are at least SS3
What is this random build
yeah, then could prob use Dante instead of Pyro then if you want to
Similar performance then
and wrong builds 
idk, i follow what others say

Pyro kinda too backloaded
Dante might be better and easier for some stage
theyre much better at the game so i trust them
change 4cottie wata to 4davinci
Vera is Shakespeare Cottie
pray tell who this others are 
Are they really much better? 
For Dante fire, do follow this man
https://youtu.be/t36_hY_C-JI?si=WiwiAlBzMIa1V-Kt
https://youtu.be/Yt_rQycOT5Q?si=ecQuTZLUovKhksid
SS3 R1 Dante (GA)
SSS R1 Wata (DD)
SS0 R1 Veronica (SAR
Mediocre run, messed up QTE timings (especially second last Dante ult), expected score from my end should be 1050w
3-10-2025
2.332 112 all s cub
DLT dante for 1 short 1 long ult
usually top of the leaderboards in IB and legend in WZ


so id say much better
Thats SS3 Dante btw, so SSS Dante shud be higher
idk, its been awhile so maybe global fell off
He can follow even tho his wata is 2s for ignition?
Pray tell who is this dalao

Copy this dalao 
https://youtu.be/ZBxIkCuzdFQ?si=
EY2a8RCO0zifOCxQ
50% fire dmg for all members for 23s when HP is below 40%
refresh 2 elite enemies
sss dante - 4 shakes 4 cot (atk/ult) - dlt - s cub
sss wata - 4 sig 4 dv (red/class) - domain, incan - s cub
ss3 vera - 4 shakes 4 cot (atk/ult) - axial, spear, dlt - ss cub
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kurogame.gplay.punishing.gra...
uhh theyre name is globalglory or DANDY and then another whos in void


Widen your reference. Try those ppl videos linked above
Sht it's actually dalao
well this was made when she first came ouyt
Oh
Make sense
that explains it 
Changed fast
damn
Rydle found 4 shake 4 cottie strat
makes sense now

Vera main DPS now


~~ Vera 6 DV 2Cottie when ~~
Sss rights
well now im worried about the rest of my teams
Show huaxu
SSS with new fire breaker maybe

my isp blocks it
Nah it already exist
Oh, the DV Cottie Vera needs Pyro at SSS too
The give ur ingame id and what server
F2plebs no right
k whels
Dante SSS kinda still wants Vera shakes cottie
Maybe new fire breaker can changes that
Dalao

Inv what?
2.323

2.32.33 112 still worth bonca with?
New stat made
Explore the 63 characters of Fnatic Pyro from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Need to see

Navily acc next

i have to spend all my vouchers to get teddy to S3, this is so sad


it's so ass
You fk

Hmm
It looks phys is rough
Sele not all core passive
Han in core passive instead of class

Also ur bonca is ded
No i mean dark


why
You got 3s lilith and rosetta is the mdps now

Wym succ


You can still use her if u want (its just gonna to be rough since ur doing 5ult bonca)



Ss0 fine
Hi ori
Ss3 good too but not needed
Good to have if u can afford it
If F2P low spender may be not
Hi joe

DD
Did-
@noble zinc ss0 bianca

still 800k-1m lower than wata score
ok what mems
(I got 11.8m on my other account)
Its super copium just better not try 
Not even worth
*mental health
Was just trying to see how far we can push her but yeah wata comps will always just be better lmao

or can i use grey ravens
5ult biana makes me so mad you're right
avoid it lol it's usually outdated and inaccurate
4sig 4bath any atk/ult for ros

Need that 30mil big score
10mil bric!
Then only me doin
32*
ill have to do that mode to get her sig harmo

Bianca Crepuscule

I got a higher score by not doing hold dodge lmfaooo

3s karen better than vera?
im using 3S wanshi for my rosetta team
Feyerlao can ask
cant imagine


no rights

3s umasetta get us rights
I wonder what 3s honse does to other teams

Still waiting for nihil wz

Kiwid dalao asking kiwid dalao when will he return
Hey guys, just a little confused here about Ishmael now.
It seems only certain Characters make Ishmael Switch Roles now. I tried placing Selena Capriccio with her and Ishamel turns into a Breaker, placing #21 Feral turns Ishmael into a Tank, and placing Veronica does not make Ishmael change.
Is there a list of Characters that is laying around here in this Discord about this that I should've known about? XD
All you need to know is that Ishmael copies the stats of the most meta tank/amp of the same element as the other amp/tank you place in the team
The tank part also includes breaker which there is also only one of in the game rn being rosetta
Oh, so because Selena Capriccio was Dark Element, it triggered the Breaker Role for Ishmael?
You could place a dark support in there like rozen also, and then Ishmael copies the most meta dark tank/breaker which is Rosetta
Yes exactly
How interesting.
Ishmael sure is an odd one. Still, the Lack of a Role from "Observer", itself (where it doesn't trigger such as playing Ishmael alone) kinda sucks, though. XD
ok, from the S rank selector you get at 21/49 novice missions
Any reccomendations?
Last I knew it was rigor
but things have changed
a lot
There shouldn't be an issue because you'll always be playing her in a team as this is a team game
And if you're playing her solo you're probably doing some stylish stuff in which numbers don't matter
True, there is no reason to not play a Team but it just feels off when you just happen to not trigger Ishmael's Passive Role. XD
... which would also happen if you pair her with Physical Units. XD
To trigger it there needs to only be one other non-physical tank/amp in the team
Here's what the game says
Phys doesn't work because Phys doesn't count as elemental
Yeah, I get it but just comparing it to the old days where you can use a Physical Tank with an Elemental Unit or vice versa and the Tank Passive still works. XD
more like fraud asking kiwid dalao when he return
Kuro had no idea what they were doing in the old days tbf
Yep, it's just Gameplay Evolution.
Now that I think about it, no wonder only now, Kuro decided that everyone gets Ishmael for free due to her flexibility. XD
Goated unit for new players
Said New Players would have no idea how valueable Ishamel was when she debuted.
She and Luna Oblivion were great Slot Fillers for recommended Elemental Teams. XD
Hi, i m new to the game, i started today, and i wanted to know what equipment you recommend for someone like me? i havent gotten the guaranteed character from 40 pulls yet
weapon and memories?
just go fck all
it doesn't matter early game
only matters when you get an S rank and their subsequent memories and weapon set
even then most S rank have their own unique weapon and memories
... and the Game actually directly recommends you which ones are those. XD
is that the old one?
up to rigor?
game reccos are sh*t

I m referring to characters, like which character to choose in the guaranteed 40-roll game
since they were introduced
selector?
Yeah, I remember rigor was the pick like 2 years ago
But is she still it?
eh it doesn't like
matter
sht outdated for 3 years now
yea
What team should I build using that character, or does it not matter?
can u send photo just so I don't misunderstood
team build meta are in #1220163911723253760
can refer to that
I already just grabbed rigor lol, cause your right, all of the units were pre sync
No, not that Page.
I mean at the Memories Shop Menu actually marks which Memories you are suppossed to look for for each Character. XD
And i don't mind piloting rigor while Im still in infant stages (im playing Cweave anyways for now, who am I kidding, she was my favorite back before I stopped playing)
But dv guin not marked for feral/ any healer
who cares about bot smh
3 patch and i also
~~Ishmael is great for stalling memory cooldowns
~~
I come for cw
Stay cuz wz
Now i kiwi on new alpha
Looking back ar the Unit Types...
So we now have Supports upgraded to Amplifiers and Tanks upgraded to Breakers.
Should we consider Annihilators be the upgrade to Attackers? XD
No... Because Nihil is special
Not really
Annhilator is nihil thing
Oh right.
Nihil has some of the uncanny Roles like Observer...
So yeah, still waiting for an Attacker Upgrade, I guess. XD
the attacker upgrade is called sss teams
Also yeah
That said, should we have another Nihil Unit, it's gonna be another oddball? XD
Atker sadly premium
Liv getting time lag on core passive at 3s and literal qte nuke
pay to play
Another thing I wanna get clear on.
Is Liv Limpidity the only Phylotree Banner Character so far?
Yes
Liv is a nuke mashine
(let's hope she's the only one)
On 3s everything is a emp nuke on her
Makes me wonder who will be the next.
It's like they wanna say that this is an even Rarer Banner as if we're talking "6-Star Units" existing.
Reminds me of the older days of Azur Lane when Gacha URs finally debuted 5 years ago. XD
Pls have qte nuke at affixes (except you vergil)
its very odd to me
it was fine before when the qte nuke was just 'a nice addition'
affixes were firmly the stronger version of elements
but now with breaker its seeming like affixes are going to be the weaker ones
Guess that's the balance. XD
im having a hard time believing ultima will get even close to outscoring dark
How about darkflow?
scores higher than light
Kamui will save plasma
no lets kill plasma further
As a Bastion Main in the old days, I still wait for that guy to have a new Frame. XD
fire/ray breaker or i dont want him
If we are to have another Nihil Unit, I wonder what weird Role we'll see this time?
Has to be one that makes her/him flexible in any Team. XD
Nooo my wata get replaced
-# hes useless anyways tho
deserved if he does
minimum rights
blind unc no longer got it
But what if
To be fair, among the different Teams, Watanabe Epitaph is the oldest Tank Unit now. Remember that he needed a Leap to have an Affix. XD
So what is best??? 
Its hard to say
Cuz ish needs a atker type and a support type unit
hanying still should be first to get replaced unless she gets a leap
Which atk option is best for reso???
best low invest team likely yeah
I took atk and Crit for both Pyroath and Veronica
lucia will be reduced to ss3/sss only unit
Pyrowashed
because attackers have no rights otherwise
ye pyro fell off hard
Atk option not really matter, for phys (veronica), crit is technically best
But for element, crit quite literally does nothing
Should I change?
you have 100% crit with alisa or vero so crit is useless regardless
not worth going out of your way for
I already got them 
No just leave it
You will run out of resources
Should I change for something else?
Not really
I think it will be fine
As i said
Literally no point going for specific atk option
That will run out fast
Wow. XD
All atk reso get u the same results
So it can be a mix of anything?
Any atk+15
Alright I won't change it then
If you get [ATK + HP] or [ATK + DEF], you can leave that on.
They aren't worth hypertuning right?
Okay 🫡
Crit is probably the most useless that in this Game
Crit only happens to Physical DMG and now in this Game, we have Characters that give 100% Crit Rate because Kuro realized their mistake with the DMG Type. XD
Okay so do I change it or no???
And should I hypertune?

I mean, for optimization, you'd change it but there's no harm leaving them on. It's too small an improvement to worry about. If you happen to get [ATK + Crit], just leave it on.
Which one ?
Alright then
Depends on situation
I'll just move onto hypertuning
We usually dont get hit
So def or hp not worth rerolling for
Any atk is fine
It's not like we have viable Characters whose DMG or Utility scales with HP or DEF anymore, anyway. XD
generally ?
i dont have that much materials for both
-# also, grayravens is terrible website
Seriously though is it okay to hypertune them or not?
ok thanks
Yet it's somehow officially sponsored by Kuro
It's not like the In-Game Guide is any better, anyway. XD
Well
Just take a look at kuso’s own ingame recommendations
So where else i can see characters build and teams compositions ?
Ask here or in #📨・general-help
Dalaos might be online

Bruh should I hypertune or not????
who are the dalaos
Joe
😭
Joelao
i agree i love joelao
I know I wouldn't 
my ppc god since day 0
So not worth it?
don't know them must be bad
yh

Okay I'll move on then
I only know Joelao 
HT Pyroath, Aegis you can leave as is if u want
I'm gonna go limp now

Limp
Although tbh if you have other chaarcters I would HT them first before Pyroath
What's Limp's memory build?

4Heisen 4Cottie for lightning
I got teddy, Arete, and Limp
Why limp when theres cw


How do I put in the extra two memories

Harmonization
I keep seeing people say 8 memories but I can only fit in 6
Harmonization is unlocked when you own the characters 6star weapon
Also lvl 80
Oh I own Limp weapon
Lvl 80 needed
Do guide missions

For the character?
Commandant lvl 80
Oh

What do I harmonize Limp's weapon with?
Did we not just answer that
No I mean which memory
Dun ask me, i use cw fr
Oh so it doesn't matter which I choose as long as it's either? Okay then
So easier to swap weapon harmo than build another 2 memories
Okay I will get the memories now thanks


So if I get it right, it's 2 heisen 4 cottie on character and 2 heisen for the weapon?
Fate wdym whale

And wtf ennvyx
I think they're calling you fat
Why
I don't know

Yep
Okay what resos should I go for? Any atk for top and the lower resonance is?
Ult iirc
Alr
Wait for someone to confirm 
I already did it...
Do I continue to hypertune?


Hypertune sure
Reso can still be changed after
So what should I get then?

Instead of Sig
Nuke how much better is core over ult at this rank
What do I change these for
Okay


Which one is best?
@plain oyster
Okay so I'll go blue

4 Aife 4 Darwin
can change Darwin for Hannah
or Condelina
I'll also ask for aretes
Alright, I'll get those
WAIT NO
I don't have her weapon though
What? 😭
that was js my misinfo
4aife is crazy
4 Nimue 4 Bath
Also 4pc dv and 4pc guin for gaydiance
I bought them
idk ss0 Honse build
Bath
I don't have her weapon so which should I have two of instead
Eins
It's pretty wild...
Get Bianca for plasma

Cottie for now change to bath once got sig

@rotund fox which reso
So four nimue 2 cot?

She doesn't need one iirc
Memo reso 
shutup grrr

Top : Any+15 atk
Bottom: Ult
Wait so not required?
Paper helper? 



Step back
When bonca does
Insta 3p-dodge
So should I get the resos for teddy or not?
Idk if this device depends
No grrr
me don't want to be enslaved
Shatter impact can feel
3p
After certain time it registers
Then dodge press
Or else 3p gets cancelled direct dodge happens
You got speed hax
Yeah working on the rdrd atm
3p first a bit slowed down need to
Both near same canwls other
lao what 223 and 2.12.13 dork score 
Is reso for teddy or no????
2.1 should be 14.5+
223 12.5


Ewwww


me phone lags on low
If I put phone on performance and keep it cool, phone run smooth on high settings

Do I reso or not???
Reso for dmg
It should be atk and ult right?
Yes
Okay Thanks
Why y'all trusting Paper
Should I hypertune?
you should
Okay
why is a whel asking for ht mats 
So which one
doesnt matter
It'll stay red then
Damn... I got to enjoy 3S Bonka rights but at the cost of my expanded expenses
Time for me to get hers
where whel 
tell them to fund me
levisha, fund levisha
funds 
@slate gull its alright if I get 4 nimue 2 cot for her right? I don't have Sig yet
she uses cottie?

What does she use then if I don't have her Sig weapon?
Full inv say
Now the reso, atk ult?
Depends on inv
SS3 honse?
Wut rank bianca and Lilith
both 3S
Davinci bathlon top attack bottom class
what if 333


What mems for her
you dont have bonka?
Wtf is bonka?
Which one
ye
Bonkadonks

His bonca ded
Cottie only option rn since no sig
So My Lilith will retain Bar Cottie Build and Switch DV Bath on Honse?
do you even use horse onfield if sigless tho?
Guin use on Lilith
If need only then ein
Can u test lao
Why not
me no lao, 

Damn...
Lilith got minimal on field tho like shes only for the downtime
ye im thinking dv eins for sigless honse. i aint onfielding if sigless. my opinion only, dont take my word for it
ss0 horse? 
222 who
when sss lah
When u afford me one
sss lilith 


There is no 30k
send paypal deets
【32.33传奇暗2018w-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/bbPTAO8
Okay so cottie and?
Okay thanks

Now what reso?
Any atk/ult
Okay
how to double ult with rose without cottie?
@plain oyster do these teams look fine?
You ping twice the amount of orbs 
makes sense

Fire:
Wata: 4sig 4dv
Vera: 4shakes 4cot (give her r1)
Phys is okay
Dark:
Is fine for now, SS ros and change lily build to 4dv 2cot 2guin
Light:
4dv 2guin feral
Nihil:
4dv 4guin Lilith
Ice:
Remove qu and add vera/lilith with 4dv 4guin

What is r1
Weapon Reso
I don't have her Sig
Wait I do?
Ahh All I see is -15s
😭

Which one
Cottie
Alr
I ran out of hypertune
Th blue thing
😭
How do I get more again

sorry warzone shop is shyet
Goddamit
I thought my builds for the current people were fine
😭
I even asked here months ago when they came out which best mem builds for them and that's what they suggested
Now I have to start all over 
some buiilds change over time
Crap...

😭
when you're still catching up to meta, you gotta be smart about using HT mats. coz you cant whale on these mats. well, some packs do give HT mats, but dont buy those
Oh well guess I'll go drown my sorrows with a very late lunch
Haven't eaten since 5 am
It's now 4 pm
At least build some with fully reso, ht can be given later
bro is in GMT+8... sooo philippines?
I wish I could 😭

Yeah
thought so
Okay I'm gonna go now
Thanks
For the help
Now I'll go be depressed while I eat rice and salt

rice and salt...
-# I should really sell my kidneys to spend money on this game...

btw who's next patch? nirvatia?
Luna
damn
alpha

lmao
Black rock shooter but S
Eggs
12.9 to 14.6m improvements yey

Dalaos, whats the max score on 32.33 111 on Dark Hero wz?
Whel unkiwi just to booli hero
18~19 seems reasonable
Last week 19.5 so this week 20m+ max probably
Ehh idk much
19 mebbe

Unkiwi u too
Bulling is fun
19... thats a strectch, even I did min maxing the qte proccs, its still not enough
Nuh uh, game too sht. Play better game
Mod cant touch me after my unreasonable muting 

Whel privileges smh
Which one to get?
Migu cant say that
Scroll all the way to the right
Last is luna
Not matter much
But best option roseta rigor
All outdated chara

i agree play genshin
superior game
Whel gaem
Gotcha thx
@noble zinc max for me
just get a waifu

dalao
Because it focuses becoming a legend not a hero
Coz ur just killing
Low inv hero on boss just kills and on leg underkills
Its still being held back by bianca
It's not like fire where vera can work overtime
And high inv hero is just overkills
Not for w50+ ngl
Eh 60
Its all bearrssss
Sorry w71 
Yeah after w60 its finally tanky
Did you know, my binca is from fate all of them
Just for under 20k bc kek
Bless my pilot back then

Fr china walls
But brok on weapon 
30 pull 3s trust
Guys why is df score trash
damn, rosetta keeps getting staggered
What inv dalao
crucify the one who keeps spamming mob zone
It scored more than ss0 bonca
Ok
U wanna hear my phys score
Lowest in this server
she's already homeless with my invest
also this week's mob is quite bad
I ran that too
Learnt the 4 and 5 ult variant
Only for dv eins wata to do better
My reso bro
same but I'm 42.33 with alisa
can't even crack 10 mil on phy
mobs that jump too
my lightning somehow scored higher
or dash
Yall lowk research enemies
my liv cannot be trash at ss3
simply remember the ones that kept making you restart 
not like it will help
ffs even with shield reso on wata for dark rosetta, she still gets staggered
or maybe because it takes too long to hit qte on wata
is crep ss3 better than wata sss in dark team assuming rose ss?
Surely I maintain top 6
ss3 is only slightly better if you can actually mald that and actually play good
fairly sure nudelao made a vid
rose using cottie if wata?
I use bathlon rosetta
does she need dlt
Do u df wata on his rot
nah
I immediately swap to rosetta without doing anything on wata
just do 1 rot for rosetta for first swap
then swap out
what team
I do 2 rose 232 lilick 1 blaze ult wata for lingya proc
Oh right lilick 232
Am I even supposed to do that
232 ult stacks?
I do 4 > 5 ult stacks or 5 > 4 on first swap
does she have extra orbs after her rotation or is it like hanying that has just enough orb and will brick run if ping too much?
then 252 the rest
I kinda treat her like hanying yea
I did 242 for wata field time
if running ss3 bianca, it is better to use ish since she has short rots. she is sss
I start wata 3p rose swap double ult > lilick 242 > rose 2 then every lilick swap I get time to do lingya on wata
It's 8% edb bro I need it
They keep not dying
Also is no dlt lilick possible
No 15% atk from sar is also brick
Like I'm at an inv where chrs function but u literally cannot dalao to score better
wait, dont we have to delay doing weeklies on monday next week for the s-rank selector missions?
I need my 3s3 luna this week
so migu 
Still donno who i use that selector
I need my sss hanying this week
surely TS is next week
I'm gonna be a madman and use base banner
I used that to selena
But donno if i wanna be gigawhel this patch for a 3s who felt replacable in a way
10k selector so close
It's basically a roulette on who's gonna be replaced and which attacker is gonna get benched (pyroath or selena)
Most viable option to me is 3s3 gera
most viable option is send money to me
i could be
what invest
SSS8 Rosetta SSS+Bianca SSS1Lilith
SSCub Rosetta, S Cub Bianca, S cub Lilith
The cub is holding me back
im gonna like
Get my cubs to SSS on monday or so
i get some extra cash so imma whale them a bit
30m with this invest
Or more

I mean i feel bad because i wana hit world record
and my cubs are holding me down hard but in time
im done with PGR today before i rot my brain on cope
Hitting more than your current score is alr good
||S cub is not holding you back by 10m score||
U don't gotta do them like that bro
I too blame my lack of reso for 1m score diff

I'm R1 too
It's lilick running dlt instead of sar
That's holding me back
Frfr
I too would be 13m score with R2 lilick and honse
SS0

Got a rotation vid you wana suggest?

Wtf r the builds
not for your invest i don't
you'll have to ask someone else
Sss team is like 27
Sss+ bonca should be like 30
bath bonca is dead btw
What happened to the lilick resos bro
Other acc
Bonca is ded
either run cottie bonca 5 ult or don't run bonca at all

Dying to know more than 2 rotations
I saw sss team got 29m idk
















