#📨・meta-help
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Nuke do my dork pls

oh hey i got it at the 2000 mark
i have SS3 Roset
do i go 4 Nimue 4 Bathlon?

Mine too
finger more

bald till they fall out
I need my fingers 
toes?





any tips on CR stage?
hard stuck on 13 can't beat the boss in 2 minutes
2014?
aye, letter said i've been absent since nov. 2014
What team are you using and what memories do they use


Can you go back in time and buy me some bitcoin pls
liv and sage meta mems, karen is QTE debuff
You ain't gonna get far with that 
not true, i've been absent since bambinata patch came


you got past the 1st stage? 

That would be nov 2023
who's alt is this
Do you have any other team?
figures, takes me like 5 minutes to finish stage 13

Problem is only empy deals big damage in that team
aye
Amber deals negative damage and nanamech is garbo
problem is all of them are like 4 yrs old
nanamech is soooooooooooo damn bad, i regret investing her at all

Can you get rose?
amber is like better to trigger matrix when dodge, and each matrix trims 6% of max boss health hah
nuh uh, too much spent on random stuff

amber is like a... qte cork idk
Also back then amber used DV btw
Sir this is meta channel
tried nanamech for ez parries and she straight suck
just have 1 meta chara and 1 shot the entire mode
so uh this isnt for stage tips, channel for meta builds?
my ice is like plume/glory/hypnos hah
reroll when
My tips would be
Empy 4eliz 2cot (2cot)
Mech 4uni 2eins
Amber 4dv 2darwin

empy needs harmony then

why 2 darwin
Cope minidps

ok, can you just tell me if older "meta" chars suck now?
is there any point in leaping FIRE GOD Lee?
Only for guild battle
well, guess i'll suck it up and skip stage 14, i'm not rdy for this bs
Start amber, switch to empy, then to mech
Mech only do 1 full 1 half for her core
you almost always get a gen 3 A rank so it doesnt matter
okay, Norman got easier or still the same as back then?

solo discord would probably be better than a max possible invest old meta 

I would say it's harder
okay okay, let's say i'm old fart and don't wanna go too hard on myself?
i'd definitely skip the frustrating part
there's a ton of limited content rn, can't tryhard one mode (with bosses and movesets i don't know at all)
It's harder, highest old difficulty was moved 1 stage below

What does leap lee even do
idc lol
i fully leaped mine but idk how to play it
Ic
is it okay if I skip or trim excessive challenge? not a fan really
i follow meta charts etc but skill issue
yknow its okay to just. tell the truth right

idonunderstand whachamean
what patch did you last play at? bc pgr came out in 2019
oops, damn, i meant 2024
bambinata patch
right before hyperreal hit
so old
Wtf I thought that's for guild siege or something
turns physical damage to fire damage (with bigger numbers)

Sure
It was for guild siege 
Ok, for phys, has rigor been replaced as a vanguard?
Rigor has been out of phys team for years now
Hanying came out next year and replaced her
But since sync happened hanying is like 2 years old now
but released last year
hagnying
Man, I think everyone I used besides feral Is so outdated because of the sync
sigh
Tho Cweave + Feral is good enough for beginning progression at least untill I can get any of the new units
Both are free btw
Also just means im gonna have to learn a ton of units
Yeah, I know
it's why they're the only ones I have lol
(lost old account and restarted)
You're basically a new player with 2-3 year old characters
Especially since I had a bunch of decent teams
Somebody carry me pls ty
unc 
Tf this whel talking about
Better off restarting completely atp
shadap
sigh
yeah, makes sense
cause while I still am not able to get hypertune and other late game progression stuff going anymore
Whels need carries too
we have rights too
Whel no rights
I sunk a ton into the old units that are history now
learn dodge timings and good combos
Darn
doesn't matter if you cant see the screen from all the effects
let the muscle memory take over
k lao 
@deft apex Can you please update meta teams list in #1220163911723253760 ? Thanks.
Pls teach me bianca combos :
which bianca
dis whel
The dark one
Hire pilots

crepe
What is a lao 

don't ask me, when I played the most reacent one was stigmata
These people not taking me seriously smh
But also, surely theres different combo guides on youtube
Okay, listen
This is how you play bonca
You smash her
orbs
Look up one, and then practice in training room then get to slaying bosses
luna oblivion weapon resonance?
Am I right @wanton hatchlao?
This video says dark warzone masterclass so im gonna watch this

you update it
Watapak
ss3 rotation
some orbs basic something something ult
oh sorry
i was trying to type in search bar 
didnt realize i posted
i promise i possess basic communication skills and can politely ask questions

What do I do in Void IB? 
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It’s between Nanami and Teddy, but idk how to fit 4 DV in
67
It’s not finished
We still need numbers for TS, void, and ice
Rose is gonna take a while to account for
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should i go for ss3 pyroath from the selector or aim for someone else?
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where half them sigs at
SS3 Startrail
i only really pull for sig weapons if its a dps cuz half of them are dlt merchants

"kinda" f2p ive just bought that 21 battlepass and the normal one once when i had it maxed
SS3 is like bare minimum for lucia
ðŸ˜
Can we kill Hanying?
shes boring to use but im guessing 21 is being replaced next
and nanami lowk contributes more than limp to lightning
21 is alr out of meta
Well yes but actually no
whats the current lightning team anyway ðŸ˜
i still use cw cuz i dont like new liv
Liv Startrail Ish
i felt like i'd have to use her eventually cuz of powercreep ðŸ˜
Feral defacto is replaced
But Kuro still considers her the best lightning amp
Liv SS3 nuke deals the same damage as CW whole rot btw 
ss limp and ss nana whos the dps
Because Kuro doesn't like malders like us
Limp still the dps
Just that at SS0 she's kinda mid
What resonances does she want(with sig)?
ss limp ss3 nana nana dps?
Weapon or memory resonance?
Limp still, although the difference is quite small
That's for TS
Oh my god I need to order my glasses immediately 
If you have SSS Nana though, solo Nana still better
As opposed to swap w SS0 Limp
Yea I caved and pulled for SS3 too it's just too ridiculous
sss+ing a ranks is so long 
Ok I’ve stopped being a dumbass and learnt how she works also does it matter if I hyper tune support focused memories or nah
only do that if you are swimming in mountains of excess ht mats (so like, never
)
i ht davinci lilith
ok uncle
My all amp sup sets full hyper too
is noe a good time to start playing pgr?
It’s never a good time 
damn, well I'm not new and just coming back, i have up to the limited liz
returning should be fine
Well you could join now we are just at the start of new era with the breaker class
I see. teddy isn't obtainable anymore?
Not for free nope

sure grandpa
I hpertuned 6 lantern 
u shouldve harmo lantern too


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just pulled rosetta, should i get her to ss3 or nanaknight to ss3 first? (was building nanaknight before this
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i have no idea about the meta now since i stopped playing all the time for a few months
You can get ss3 nana from the free selector this version
You don't really NEED SS3 Rosetta, if you don't have the cards for it you can skip it
But getting it is always a big upgrade

hey,i was wondering how good is alisa echo weapon,and should i pull her weapon instead of someone else’s signature weapon?
sooo ss0 rosetta would be good enough?
It's good enough for the majority content of the game
More than that is competitive territory
Not really as good
Also considering you can just get a free 6* bow for her from a weapon selector
No reason to pull
yeah i dont really intend to get too much into the meta
i just pull whoever looks cool
Nice
yeah that’s what i realized,but there’s many uniframes in my roster who doesn’t have their signature weapon
so she doesn’t need it?
It depends on your current physical team really, but without it she's technically still works and gives your team the crit dmg buff
well as of right now,my current physical team is bianca stigmata with her sign as well as rosetta rigor with alisa ofc

Yeah you shouldn't feel the need to pay attention to phys
Like at all
With that team
Too old to perform
is it really THAT bad? after all,i need every specific element team for the endgame content
I think yellow is better
Well yeah but not like there's anything you can do
Just forget about phys and do what you can do with other team
you don’t mind if i take pictures of my uniframes? maybe you could help me out on who should i focus on
If you don't mind, you can just copy paste your player Id, put it in this website and share it here to be reviewed
yeah sure
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didn't know we could do that lol
Bruh you got Vergil
He can carry your physical team lmao
barely 
Still better than off ele 
i'm just listening to yall advice,since i don't know where to start ðŸ˜
He can work

i'm so happy to hear that
Alisa, Rosetta, Vergil
vergil is my fav
bet
hope they'll make a rerun of vergil so i can get his sign next
if that ever happens

You'd only need to get teddy from the special mission for free and you kinda got all 5 element team already
but how about the free weapon selecter? should i pick it for someone or should i hold it i off for later
okay nice nice
Get the new Rosetta for dark team
Vergil for you physical
Nana for lightning
Vera and Lucia for fire
Wanshi and teddy for ice
Which one is this again
We already got like several including 5* ones
What are the options
We have entirely 2 different 6* weapon selector
Don't want to mistake one to the other
nana outperform crimson?
Yes
It's the new one
oh 💔
It would have been catastrophe to recommend the older selector pick for this one
especially since they are no long meta ðŸ˜
is theis there consensus on honse mem now
well since i heard that Qu REALLY needs her sign,i guess i could pick that?
You can get Oblivion weapon to help her eventually
It's worth it
uh
lets not
oki doke
youll get free teddy whos way better dps than shukra
no way.
Qu at big 2026
shukra is no longer meta??
literally
I PULLED FOR HER LAST YEAR 💔

my eye went WIDE when i see that statement
no longer meta like last patch
teddy outperform her dps
unless the invest is like SSS shukra vs ss0 teddy

but if its smilira like ss0 vs ss0 its teddy
wasted my pulls for nothing ðŸ˜
rerun pulled shukra?
idk its the general statement i heard
i personally never sees the perfomance
either way investing shukra now is just not wise in any way
yeah
oki doke
btw i'm one pull away from my s rank selecter,is she the best for my account? since she is a general support for any team apart from physical
you ca nget her for free
Qu still stronger in dps, but that's like
"wtf is this comparison"
on selector this patch

You can get her for free this update, why pull
true,so which one should i pick then?
honestly i dont know all past character starting to fall off now 
even the goat nanami started to fall off
wellll it is pretty much a free s rank since im only one pull away
hold for now
Honestly you have some options for your account, but for the best pick it's gonna be difficult to pick because the pick candidate is potentially to be replaced/free by next update
even her?? i'm so cooked
its permanent and its always updating so
right

the current pool has been powercreeped to some degree soo
so should i hold it off until i'm sure?
If you still want to best pick, you'd probably want to wait until 24th for next update Beta (leap and freebies), or just yolo it rn
arguabley ishmael can but shes free so not worth to pull
yeah hold it for now
its not limited
alright then
No leap unfortunately
its permanent and it will updating the pool
Confirmed?
Yeh
next patch is A rank rite
they do reset every year thought right?
Oh that makes things easier then 
no
only reset if kuro announced it
Get Solacetune from this, your Vergil will be happy
If no leap in Nirvata, then no voucher hanging
next patch S rank phy tank
trust

Well not like there's much to get of standard anyway at this point 
Veronica trash
Bianca trash, just get SSS Lilith fr fr
Its complicated rn
There's a new cub so it mixed takes if it's her cub or new A rank cub
what

Not really sure if its her ccub or a new A rank cub yet
so as for my current plan,i should focus on my physical team by hypertuning them all and then nihil team since i'll have ishmael by the free selecter,and once i get teddy,i can focus on the ice team,is that good enough?
you sure?? i thought she was going to get powercreep soon
Hypertuning both Rosetta Rigor and Alisa wouldn't be necessary, keep your materials
so my physical team is already done then?
no confirmation of phy tank but her time is coming
Well, like I said the other options are whatever at this point, even though Solacetune in verge of powercreep, we still not really sure if she's actually dead next next update or not
Technically yeah
However
you have the option to simply get Pianissimo and replace your Vergil with a better dps
Instead of getting Solacetune to help your Vergil dps.
From that standard banner
It's your choice
well depends on how expensive she is to build
but selena is lowkey expensive unit
like do i have to get her signature weapon?
kinda ya
She can work with SS rank and 5 star weapon
Better than ss0 Vergil with 5* weapon at least

Selena have better orb regeneration
Yeah, I'll let him decide that if it's worth or not
well i do really like vergil,so it'll be hard for me to replace him,but if she's that good,then i don't mind
The upgrade from 5* Vergil to 5* Selena wouldn't be THAT much tbh
i mean you have no way to invest vergil directly now
sadly
The only upper hand Selena has is that you can actually get her 6* weapon again to make her better
Now whether you'll be able to afford that weapon or not is another thing
i could just simply get it from the free selecter
but then
Which one?
i wouldn't have the sign for oblivion
@stiff linden i think the correcy choice
I don't think Selena weapon in there
the 6* star selecter
easy pull
i told you about
Fk whel
what is pull plan? i pull everything 
You fund him then
Yeah it's it available there
at that point,it's the smart choice ðŸ˜
nooo
i even invested wedding skin on her
ðŸ˜
i get hanyin and then i should be done with the phyisical team right?
just to be sure thought
get alisa
does she NEED her sign?
Everyone does 
but YOU REALLY NEED alisa
All r3
Nuh uh
phy without alisa is "why do you even bother to play"
i already have alisa thought
why do i always gotta cope man ðŸ˜
the curse of newbie f2p
i am on your position back then dw
invest in a year and you prolly doesnt have to do all at
i played for long time alr
Play long enough to afford better 
maybe like a year
you need a year at average to be on comfortable zone on pgr
assumign you never whaled
yeah this game realllyyyyyy test your patience
jeez ðŸ˜
alright then,so i guess i'll get hanyin and her sign from the free selecter
sure
at least it's f2p!! haha..
really do test my patience thought
i say dont hypertune too much
Uhhh
Bad news
?
what happened now
i'm scared
There's no hanying weapon in that selector too
PFF

dude.
lmao
5 star cope you go
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@carmine roost who do you think deserve ss3
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i am still in dilemma
Already a bad start
but ok
lets not
and i'll have enough to pick any 6* stars
lets not
its better if you DONT scrap any 6 star at all
you can use them for reso instead
about that..
3 6star weapon for 1 or 3 reso for 3 6star weap?

hold
youre not whaling so its never worth it
scrapping 6 star is only good if you are whaler
BUT LOOK
since youll have abundance of them

I COULD TRADE IT OFF FOR HANYIN WEAPON
Wait why hanyin
i need her to replace rosetta
theyre getting hanying
for my phyisical team

With ur invest, bonca still on team (wz at least)
oh my heart


i don't get it thought,i could use the free selector for oblivion which is WAY better than bianca and rosetta since i won't be using them anymore
Wait, u don't have bonca
One thing you miss
Hanying weapon isn't even that good

we get hanying weap for reso sot
Oh, its stigmata. nvm
You'll end up with more loss than gain doing this
right
well thought,as of right now,vergil is better right?
@stiff linden
3x 6 star weapon for 1 6 star weapon
or
3 reso for 3x 6 star weapon?
you can R3 someone if you got their sig
or you can R1 3 S unit
Ah, i thought ur talking about new bianca tho i dont think its worth scrapping stigmata 
he gon regret it if he doesnt have enough reso material for weap
like me once happened

i don't get it ðŸ˜
how can i get 3 reso in the first place
your unused 6 star weapon can atleast be used as reso material for another 6 star weapon
you can like invest reso 1 to 3 unit potentially getting them Dead line timing reso
instead benefitting to 1 unit only if you scrapped 3 of those for 1 weapon
If you do have useless 6 star weapon, only do scrap when you lose to new Chara sig tbh
Especially if you're f2p with limited Budget
Not older sig
i scrapped crimson fraud because frick that unit
so i can scrap them for reso material?
This way, you can also use weapon calibration to guarantee next S sig while having the current debut sig
dont scrap them, keep it
maybe i miss typed it
well i was really mad when i lost my pity so i scrap it out of anger
but when i say scrap for reso it mean you used that weapon to reso instead of scrapping it first
so now i have a useless material
You can just use them directly as reso material
Reso and scrapping is 2 different thing
THATS ME
FRICK THAT CRIMSON FRAUD
based
ohh i could do that??

ðŸ˜
yes
thats what i mean by using 6 star weap for reso
which is why were soo agaisnt you scrapping 6 star for anything but reso
I thought the official setup was released like last week for rose 
so then i'll only need hanyin (no hypertuned) and then i'll pick oblivion's weapon,reasonate her weapon,and then build teddy once i get her
No 
we no longer have future sight ( cn) soo
8 co-
we gotta wait for dalaos to have consensus

Imagine not using the cnlao wiki smh 

wait wth
i didnt even knew
What hax 
whats the link dalao
Not even proper rot
It’s been out for years
Tell inv
How to 10m lao
Fkass one tap
222.3 102
Brokie
why would whels scrap weapons when they could just pull em? 
well if you pulled a lot of sign weapon,you'd prob a lot of times too,so you could easily get any 6* you want
Ori do my dork
I'll do it later
legend but without phys team
Gotta guarantee top 6 any way possible
bruh, whels have all weapons ready, they don't scrap anything. ever. 
it's like buying the same bread for 3$ instead of 1$, it literally has no purpose for a whel 

You can do it i believe in you
Wait what the other zone again
-# idk
Oh yeah light df
2.32.33 112
I meant who is on team
Bonca rose lilith
someone please help me fix this 


Bonka not dead yet i forgot
wut team invest you have? 
ss lucia on sig, ss wata on sig, liv lux on support memories

damn 
Liv lux 
no one else to put in the team 

Send huaxu
did windbell make one of those absolute homeless invest for this? lul
Oh yeh
Not THIS homeless
I know he made them for last week bosses, but dunno if he got one for this already or not
Its with vera tho
Cooked

ss pyro dps must be rough, especially with homeless qte bots
so this team is ded 

I can't even imagine how to do this, other than treating it as a full on wz rota 

Idk
Id say 530k is pretty good for this invest
99m hp red huaxu feels like wz
Who else do you have
Send your huaxu
only need a few more thousand to get next reward but it's just not happening
I bet your whel sss team takes that down fast anyway 
it took me 24s or smth
Send all your ppc scores and your huaxu
maybe 26 i forget
what's huaxu 
somewhere around there
Do any of the nihil characters function on physical teams or no?
ye, das still fast, nothing like a real homeless invest run 
well idk what to say man,whales will be whales ðŸ˜
This is mine
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oh
homeless invest should get massive dmg boost as time goes on tho no
so its not as bad as it would seem
It is
Still bad
Homeless just need to say no to 1.8m goal and it's all ez & chill gaming
that's already going above 30s
or was it even 1m? when's the 1st boost happens?
Dmg boost 1m
40s iirc
Which one to get for a new account?
o
After 60 secs
40 for IB

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I haven’t touched ib in
2 months
im fairly confident its 40s unless im schizo
Nanami cope fire tank trust

i imagine its easy to hit the time limit with fked up builds and characters
aka the avg casual
i think liv is better for the healing
Imagine being a newbies after this patch and meet Lloyd/Meli
Is your ish already used?
used up in dark
Bruh, u have ish
id use up ish too

no dark tank 
No ros i see
Ros where

Can't imagine a world without Ros now
Darker than dark team
daren >>>

Watapak
You have 3s 21
Use her as cope dark tank
Ish for fire
bonca skin more important 




Ima be honest I don't think this is gonna change anything at all, Pyro too bricked
LS
forbidden server
Ohh
bonca crying skin>>>bonca strength

That's a lie
She killed Bonca, that monster

F*"!(* physical
Why do you have this saved 
Me also saved it
whether you use ish at fat dude or spooder woman, won't change much
you will just exchange the bricc scores, overall same bricc

Why wouldn't i
idk why people are saying bianca is dead? bianca is atk rosetta is tank they can scissor each other just fine


wutdapak, Rai, me fellow humbe f2p is back 
Your a whel so doesn't matter to u


im here to cause chaos

I see this chat is nothing but adgenda

No don't take my j*b
rosetta got nothing on sss bonca 
-# i also have it saved
Then gib up on 1.8m
3s bonca huh
no need for score when we can have a bonca skin 
Oh no…

Its another person just like me
He s+
Not sss bonca

I respect agenda but as a SSS+ bianca SSS+ Rosetta player such things are beneath me
K whel
if u have sss bonca, u can skip rose? 

Killed my ss0 no sig bonca for sure
leviathan superiority complex who foresaw that 

I'll 3S bonca if someone sponsors me
"Bet you have SSS3 Bonca"
Ok what if i have both bonca and rose on same invest?
but that doesnt fit the chaos


She's miss potential
Give me SSS
Give me Skin
Skip Ros or I retired
It's not a superiority complex i merely see slander as inconsequential
Unless it's Selena, Qu or Hanying I'll join in on that
And i veronica too
lowkey
welcome to retirement 
people have a right to complain about bianca
Is this meta help
shes so bad without sss
I love slander
i love meta

Aren't like most characters sh!t without SSS? like shoudnt SSS be the minimum. im not tripping but most characters have there best buffs at SSS0 or SSS3?
theres bad and theres unplayable

Not enough meta ppl to appreciate slanders
very important distinction
wutcha you mean replaced? isn't that the standard there? 
yall non sss players should join me in retirement 
Nu uh
SS-SS3 are non-human invest
True
Let's factory
factory better game
i factory in satisfactory not midfield tho



I think PPC/WZ should add a new debuff, if you enter the field with a non SSS character they should get 50% dmg nerf
That is a fair distinction but she is like really really good in SSS like if she was SS and her SSS was "Aight" then i'd have issues because it would feel like she is just stunted but they didnt use her bad SS as an excuse to make her SSS underwhelming
her SSS is better than many other SSS its just the invest needed to use her is really really high. So it works out....
i think the issue isn't that she sucks but that she isn't free if the invest is gonna be so high right?
that sounds more like a better phrasing of the feeling
they pretty much already got that debuff 



@grok simplify this statement
you can have good sss upgrades without making the character actual trash below it thats the biggest problem with her
Not enough, how dare they still have a chance to kill PPC bosses under 1 min
other units below sss are not good but also they still do the job
except veronica ig
Who said bonca sss is underwhelming 
midanca is mid, and that's that. can't justify midness of that level 
making her free would indeed alleviate the problem somewhat but she isnt and we have to deal with the consequence of that
Solon said on a stream if you're F2P you don't deserve his wife
true
If she was free it would make more sense. but I think its like the way she was designed right because of the way she uses orbs. and her buffs relating the orb spam. I think she in general even outside of SSS her requires high investment.
I think if she was free fix alot
Trust, I work as a janitor in Kusogames HQ
he can keep that mid thing to himself, wouldn't touch anyway
he said the same thing on my bed last night
Ok i see the complaint it's valid complaint
I misunderstood you make valid arguments have a good day
How do we apply for a refund?
Pls I spent 15k for her
no way
wut about patton rozen? 

GET THE HELL OUT
im pattonning it rn



So good
Uog
Hoping alpha is like amp tank ultima, phys or nihil
light glacio amp
Nah that will be nervatia
nahh, she will resurrect the uniframe agenda 
bet
we need new roland frame

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