📨・meta-help

[dim hazel]

I know it's 4 diesel memorys

But who should I put in 4 and 6?

Or would it be 1 and 3?

[wanton hatch]

the 1&3 if you have cottie on 2456

wait why are we building CW

[dim hazel]

Cause she's my favorite from when I played on my first account

And got her for free on this new one

[plain oyster]

[dim hazel]

Why? Has she been powercrept?

[wanton hatch]

yes

[dim hazel]

Ahhhhhh

Damn it

And her play pattern was so sick too

[plain oyster]

Nana already outdmg her and liv completely replace her

[wind hemlock]

She still has field time if she's SSS+ maybe?

[wanton hatch]

[dim hazel]

Ok, but still

She and feral are the only SRanks I have

Cause I haven't used my selectors yet

[spiral merlin]

I'll ping when I upload won't be too long

[wanton hatch]

ig u can complete the quest thingy for her, the 4diesel 2cottie

[dim hazel]

So still important to build them untill I can do better

[wanton hatch]

don't over invest tho

[dim hazel]

What would you call over investment

[graceful summit]

Atleast don't hypertune

The memory

And no need to rank her up

[dim hazel]

Oh, no, I'm not hyper tuning. I barely understood it back then, and I want a full refresher course before I touch that now

[plain oyster]

Feral is fine with just max lvl, only max skill is class and memo should be lvl1, no reso, and no ht.

[dim hazel]

Not maxing her qte?

[plain oyster]

Class should be enough

[dim hazel]

K

I was thinking of using the guaranteed S rank to grab Vera to finish the team, but I guess that's a bad idea now then

[plain oyster]

If ur talking about garnet then no

You should choose vera: geiravor instead

[sick flower]

@dim hazel forget the existence of vera garnet

[dim hazel]

Damn

[sick flower]

act as if garnet never existed

[dim hazel]

My whole entire fav team is just dead

Got it

[wind hemlock]

Vera just got better

[plain oyster]

Tbh, once u get nanami: startrail. She's ur mdps in light aand u remove cw

[wind hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/vera-geiravor-signature-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-14609110583511920826

[dim hazel]

Tell me that lumi is still the pick for a phys support

[wind hemlock]

Nah

[plain oyster]

[wind hemlock]

That's Veronica

[plain oyster]

Alisa is free

And much better

[wind hemlock]

Or Alisa

[dim hazel]

Got it

[plain oyster]

You can check this
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1438530128912191648

[dim hazel]

So this is just completely worthless now

Cause lumi was the only one worth grabbing when I last played

[plain oyster]

Yeh

Can pick any

[dim hazel]

PLASMA!?

There's new elements now!?

[wind hemlock]

Its an affix, don't worry too much about it for now

[dim hazel]

And Lilith is no longer a boss but a playable character

Got it

[plain oyster]

[wind hemlock]

Yep

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-lilith-punishing-gray-raven-lilith-lilith-daemonissa-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-611508721544660414

[dim hazel]

I feel like I'm a grandma trying to use a smart phone for the first time

So much has changed

[wind hemlock]

That's the feel

[patent creek]

so uh
Rosetta, hows her SS and SS3 compare to SS3 Lilith and SS/SSS Bianca?

[wind hemlock]

What you have missed is the synchronization

[patent creek]

DPS wise

[wind hemlock]

Basically Kuro speedran to match global and CN, so we got 3 patches in 1 for basically an entire year

[dim hazel]

Oh, wow

That's sick actually

Just uhhh

Kinda sucks for me lol

[plain oyster]

[wind hemlock]

Yep

[dim hazel]

Oh well. New player experience all over again

Also, what happened with the chapters

Going from 1 immediately to 9

Like

[wind hemlock]

SS Rosetta is far stronger than SS Bianca and SS3 Lilith, dunno about SSS Bianca

[dim hazel]

Skipped 4 whole major bosses and dropped off the story with characters that new players wouldn't recognize

(will say that I like not having to play through all of that again. Some of those early missions were. . . Meh)

[plain oyster]

Rosetta stronger than ss3 lily and SS bonca. But not with 3s bonca, even with 3s ros, bonca 3s still mdps.

3s bonca op

[patent creek]

decent, decent, hows SS vs SS3 Rosetta looking like? does she need it like Lilith and Hanying to do proper rotations?

i'll probably try to SSS Bianca eventually, haven't even gotten her yet, maybe save up for anniv banner

[plain oyster]

What? Lily dont need ss3 to do proper rot

[patent creek]

but for now i'm focusing on SSS+ Ishma and Alpha first

[graceful summit]

Why do people convinced hanying need ss3 to work

She does not

[patent creek]

heard a lot of people recommend SS3 for both

[plain oyster]

Also rosetta dont need ss3 to proper rot

[patent creek]

well, sounds good then, Rosetta will stay SS for now

thanks good people

[plain oyster]

[graceful summit]

Yeah, back then
Now there's a lot better ss3 than han

Bricky han
Hope replaced soon

[patent creek]

inb4 she gets replaced immediately by a new Karen

[plain oyster]

If only there's leap next patch, it could be han

[graceful summit]

Nah don't sentence Karen with phys

Immediate shafted

Like all phys char

[plain oyster]

[patent creek]

where's your motivation?

[slate gull]

what motivation

[graceful summit]

Did I stutter

[wind hemlock]

There was never a motivation meta recommendation was to skip DMC

[spiral merlin]

@wanton hatch #1382861408869552138 message

[dim hazel]

I still can't believe that all my Cweave practice is just gone. I hope there's a Lucia/alpha frame coming out soon. They're play patterns are always so fun

But oh well, guess it's time to branch out then

[wind hemlock]

There is a new Alpha

Upcoming

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-pgr-new-frame-gif-8675560260955179344

[dim hazel]

👀

And it's 15000 for pity

. . . I have a goal in mind now

(still should probably use my free S on some before then tho, just so I can get a good carry even if I don't have the supporting cast)

[patent creek]

bold of you to assume I ever cared about meta, challenging bosses with fun units is what this game is actually about, PPC and WZ are a trap

[dim hazel]

There was DMC collab!?

Wow

[patent creek]

yep

[graceful summit]

Gentle reminder you are in meta help

[wind hemlock]

You are in #📨・meta-help sir

[spiral merlin]

why are you talking about not caring about meta in meta help

[patent creek]

well uh...

[dim hazel]

Started too late for nier, and left too early for DMC lol

[patent creek]

you need to do PPC and WZ to get the BC you get the fun units to fight bosses with

[wind hemlock]

Dw about them, they all powercrept too

[patent creek]

aside from speedrunning the weekly and bi-monthly modes and speedrunning patch content, bosses are my actual real gameplay in PGR

rerun Nier! I need those powercrept units!

[plain oyster]

[dim hazel]

"need to do meta to supply my non-meta whimsy's" lol

Which very fair

[patent creek]

Can't exactly get units for free

[wind hemlock]

The funniest part was Dante being powercrept in the next right patch after he released

[wanton hatch]

ew collabs

[patent creek]

By the Veronica I skipped

[dim hazel]

Also, the fate banners are still, scams, right?

[graceful summit]

Yes

[plain oyster]

[patent creek]

Fate banner is the winners' banner*

Got me SSS Vergil in 80 pulls

[dim hazel]

Good to know, ignoring them as I used to do lol

[plain oyster]

[patent creek]

(Disclaimer, I will not bear any responsibility for anyone reaching 99 pulls on Fate because of my statement)

[dim hazel]

I think that's just your luck there chief

[plain oyster]

[wind hemlock]

https://youtu.be/3gkCK7DbVZg?t=3843 you may check here the upcoming units

[plain oyster]

[patent creek]

Ever since I started the game, when Lucia Pyroath first showed up on CN and made me start the game on global, I haven't EVER pulled using the normal banner, I only pull on Fate

I have every single unit I want

[plain oyster]

[patent creek]

With Alpha being one dupe away from SSS+, and Ishmael and Vergil being SSS, purely thanks to Fate banner

And I shall continue to use it

It has been good to me

[wind hemlock]

So that's where my 80/20 luck has been

[wanton hatch]

so whel

[plain oyster]

You loss to weapon?

[dim hazel]

This is incredible, holy

[wind hemlock]

I do

[patent creek]

20/80*

[plain oyster]

I thought weap is 100%, since i dont lose

[dim hazel]

I know my luck tho, if it's not 100%, it's 0

[patent creek]

I lost more "80/20"s than I lost on Fate

[plain oyster]

[patent creek]

Weap banner is an absolute scam

Not even a guarantee on debut lmao

[wide pewter]

Nah weapon banner is peak

[plain oyster]

Me always get early + dont lose in weap tho

[wide pewter]

It always give 1-2 6 star per 10 pull for me

Never reached pity a single time

[plain oyster]

[patent creek]

So this is where my weap banner luck went huh

I guess this is karma for my fate luck

[plain oyster]

Balance

[wide pewter]

Gibe emoji

[plain oyster]

Oh it's from windlao server

[golden merlin]

Ive got that server if you need

[wide pewter]

I got it now

[noble zinc]

@spiral merlin pak you

[spiral merlin]

[noble zinc]

[spiral merlin]

31m when

[noble zinc]

My hand hurts ss pet zone cap

29.7 seems it for me

1hp bric everywhere

[spiral merlin]

Rip

Still real good score

[noble zinc]

30mil or bric

You wait me too next zone haxing 30mil

[spiral merlin]

I look forward to it

I still don’t know who has most hax zone

Aside from cn

[sonic tide]

Not asia Pacific for sure

[graceful summit]

Where 30m

[sonic tide]

Fund me S+

[graceful summit]

Fund me 3s instead

[sonic tide]

[buoyant hornet]

444?

[tacit tiger]

Ask @wanton hatch

[sonic tide]

333

[noble zinc]

333

[slate gull]

now teach

[spiral merlin]

30m doable 333

[sonic tide]

K lao me casual

[spiral merlin]

[limber yoke]

U lao

[spiral merlin]

Some CN madman got 37m+

[sonic tide]

Wym

Im slow in bonca

too focus on her body

[limber yoke]

Same

[buoyant hornet]

wtf 30m with sss 💀

What is this

[limber yoke]

Lilith goated

[buoyant hornet]

Lmaoooo

[buoyant hornet]

btw does lilith just run full support here or does she use cot

[spiral merlin]

6dv

No cot needed

[buoyant hornet]

Lilith is so bad without cottie istg 💀

[spiral merlin]

Works without

[buoyant hornet]

interesting lmao

[buoyant hornet]

is it just 0.5 rot every swap

[spiral merlin]

Unclear if eins or guin better idk what this guy used

[spiral merlin]

Yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Shouldn't guin just be plain better for miss ult spam sword nun

[spiral merlin]

It's 1000% easier to play

But that's exactly why it's unclear which is better

Some funky stuff can go on with eins

[buoyant hornet]

Btw I realized something about nanami qte that's unfortunately missing with wata

[spiral merlin]

Esp with boss wz

[buoyant hornet]

Her qte field is actually registered as a qte all the way through

So it's able to apply einsteina automatically when it's off cd

But wata doesn't have that

I wonder if rosetta does

[buoyant hornet]

This can be a disadvantage though btw lmao

Nanami fails to kill wave barely = swapout is considered a qte = einsteina proc automatically wasted on a dead wave

[spiral merlin]

Guess they didn't really plan for nana eins

Do you know if Rosetta is the same

[buoyant hornet]

lmao yeah and rosetta's ss0 just copies the exact same basis of garnet and startrail ss0 passives

Swapout = qte

So looks like this is the new standard

Wata doesn't have that though, they gave him like 90% of lightning tank qte behavior but not identical

[spiral merlin]

Wata is cooked beyond belief so ig it makes sense he's the odd one out

[buoyant hornet]

I freaking hate how his super fast rot input timings can heavily vary depending on rng and situation

If you're lucky there'll be a hitbox that he auto parries while pinging 3p red and it'll be faster

If you're unlucky his hold dodge will randomly fail to actually grab the enemy

💀

Makes low invest dark feel 5x more cancerous because of him alone

Void would be the same but at least he has a longer window there because none of the void DPSs are as slow as rosetta lmao

[spiral merlin]

Honestly just pray for lightning strike for fast parry

His own hold dodge is too unreliable

And given by my experience today in dark there is. Plenty of lighting to go around

[exotic fable]

Wata's QTE not proccing eins probably stems from his QTE being a leap, no?

So it's technically not registered as a QTE by the system

[spiral merlin]

The game is probably calling the same trigger for field that procs when he does his ult instead of a separate field for qte and ult both

i.e exact same field

[icy otter]

@noble zinc pilot dark

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1358099919684243486.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=worry_tased&animated=true

Me stuck at 8.6m

[quiet vale]

if i am dropping bianca from my dark team who do i replace her with a tank or amp ?

[plain oyster]

3s wata or vera

If have 3s wata, preferably use him

[peak halo]

Why need 3s vera?

[plain oyster]

I didn't say 3s vera

Wording bad ig

[peak halo]

From my understasing yes

[quiet vale]

both

currently using vera rn

[plain oyster]

Use wata then

[quiet vale]

oki

[plain oyster]

[quiet vale]

for the swap cool down I assume ?

[plain oyster]

Yeh

[peak halo]

But im now tired and insulted
So maybie me translate it badly

[plain oyster]

Its my fault, bad wording

[peak halo]

[quiet vale]

do I need his sig memory or just run 4pc davin, 2pc gloria, 2pc einsteina ?

[plain oyster]

4dv ein glori yeh

[torn lark]

new stuff

[peak halo]

Dork and nihil

[exotic fable]

Oh nice

[nova marten]

Cringe weakness

[peak halo]

Also again donno
Who using on which cuz
All 3 cross units theres

Pak kuro, how 1 unit in 5 team

[celest carbon]

1% here i come

[dire moon]

is she good?🙂

[carmine roost]

Yeah

Strongest Dark element character rn

[dire moon]

ohh, I got her when I did a pull on the banner for the first time. 🙂if she is good then imma build her

[celest carbon]

You essentially have to build everyone in the game. Dont build alpha crimson weave you see under, thats a waste of resources

[carmine roost]

A bit conflating innit

[dire moon]

alright thanks for the advice. 🙂

[celest carbon]

No worries that would be $10

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1438404737287454772/GIF-251112_234609.gif

[zenith thorn]

based

[barren plank]

To think I wasted all those vouchers on her SSS for solo Nana to still do better

[peak halo]

I give a cw and feral sig to my nana

[celest carbon]

I would say shes still usable in some ppc kills but even that is not possible anymore

[peak halo]

If sss nana
Then s+ cw
Sss cw only valid if low rank nanami

[celest carbon]

Mine went to lilith

[peak halo]

1 cw sig want that too

[barren plank]

Mine was SS3

[peak halo]

1 haved like 3 cw sig

[barren plank]

I just ran Nana Luna Lilith

[celest carbon]

Bro loves cw too much

Go for s+ on next alpha

[peak halo]

Donno
But if salary allow it maybie

[celest carbon]

32.13 needed swap?

[peak halo]

But sss sure

[celest carbon]

Sss or brick is the new state anyway

[cold walrus]

Was sss alpha worthless if nana was sss too

I got my alpha in thunderbolt research and never bothered to rank up her

[barren plank]

I think that depended on Feral/Ish rank and invest too

[celest carbon]

Ss liv > sss alpha
If you have sss nana, you dont use ss liv either

Just solo nonomi

[cold walrus]

No i mean before liv

Nice character design btw

[celest carbon]

Yes even before liv, sss nana was better solo unless cw is s+

[barren plank]

Goddamn the itch to play is bad

[cold walrus]

If you have sss teammate, you must pull sss for new char too. Otherwise no point to pull

[peak halo]

Ss liv with i seen is kinda sss6 alpha

[celest carbon]

Wtf really?

[peak halo]

Donno
All brick score so
Its not sure

I get straith forward sss liv

So forgot to test it

[celest carbon]

433 light with cw on mobs, nana weather scored 11m

Solo nana was 9.5m

[barren plank]

It's crazy how busted Nana still is despite her age

[celest carbon]

233 light with liv on mobs same weather scores 8m something

[peak halo]

[celest carbon]

She was the ultimate flex too

[peak halo]

That maldied score?
The alphas will
But liv donno

[celest carbon]

Used in fire, dark, light, burn, void, plasma

[celest carbon]

Yeah it was a mald score

Bad zone thats why 11m

[peak halo]

I see

[celest carbon]

Wait no I’m an idiot, the score was 8m

With mald

That zone scored 6.5m with solo nana

11m was duo

[barren plank]

Unfortunately though her being so valuable is a result of how many teams sought after her class and element, not that she herself would stay busted forever

When we eventually get new lighting tank/breaker, Nanami is booted from 3/4 of her teams

Good news though is that for the time being she looks very stable in the meta

[peak halo]

So u say ss liv is kinda s+ cw

[peak halo]

Or the breaker get all her spot, cuz why not
Expect burn

Or burn to cuz get burn affix

[eager oasis]

is it normal that i get better scores on PC VS phone? for WZ
(is FPS influencing the score a thing?)

[peak halo]

Pc better cuz stable

So yes

[eager oasis]

120 FPS on PC vs the basic phone settings (30?) my phone doesnt lag but yeah

i thought id do a better score since some char controls r hella awkward on controller, but no, same score

dam

[peak halo]

Its really more depends ppl which to use too

[buoyant hornet]

oh true

[peak halo]

I rarly play on phone or even not i not played pgr
I more get use to pc setup

[buoyant hornet]

I wonder if hanying gets a leap how they'll handle this aspect, her field isn't even caused by her ult so they'll have to code it so that her field is triggered in an entirely separate way and doesn't need changwuzi to be extended after ult2

It's weird that she's the only unit who literally doesn't have a field ENTIRELY without sig mem

All other tanks before Rosetta simply had the elemental shred application via the field locked to sig mem, rather than the entire field happening in the first place

[nova marten]

Just kill her with Kamui, problem solved

[simple dew]

no not kamui

[nova marten]

If it's not Kamui, then we're gonna have to wait for 3 months minimum for another chance

[simple dew]

phys brick either way

noone uses it except siren fans

[exotic fable]

Or we can just outright replace her

[buoyant hornet]

We all know every new physical unit is considered broken for like 1 patch and then we quickly realize phys is still garbage after all

I hope kamui isn't physical due to that exact reason alone but either way physical needs an upgrade in ANY form

[nova marten]

Temporary happiness or prolong suffering

There's no winning for Phys

[peak halo]

I like phys even i not serin fan but
This game mechs threat phys as🚮

[icy otter]

Good

Phys trash

This week even more trash

[eager oasis]

how do you decide whether to let the atk first or tank first for wz?

[nova marten]

Depends
If Ele team, usually the weakest member as starter
If Affix team, could be the tank, then enabler, then DPS but even this isn't always true

[eager oasis]

Ik most teams but wondering who you do your first rot for physical and dark in wz

[nova marten]

Weakest member

[eager oasis]

For dark I go Rosetta first so she can snag the blue orbs off lingya from lilith

But idk physical

Alright hanying it is

[nova marten]

So Veronia and whoever weakest in ur Dark

[plain oyster]

[nova marten]

Hanging must do one rot for shred field

[eager oasis]

Ah ok

[nova marten]

For Dark it's likely the other ele Amp/Tank u bring along as QTE slave

I'm assuming Midianca is out

[eager oasis]

I'd say bianca is ok for this dark wz, since it's a 12 second buff thing

[nova marten]

Ur Lilith SSS?

If she's SS3 then she's the QTE slave and Midianca will stay

[simple dew]

maso

[nova forum]

Segs

[icy otter]

eos

[crude wing]

SelenaPhone

[keen meteor]

masterclass!

[crude wing]

did you hit 37m yet

[keen meteor]

I'm washed

[crude wing]

lie

[keen meteor]

I got 33 and dipped

[mighty tusk]

that off-element penalty

[valid juniper]

is Teddy Spectre, Lucid dreamer and ishmael good team?

[slate gull]

doesnt work

[loud geyser]

isn't lilith technically the weakest

in dark premium

cuz she was the 1st gen 3 dark char

[nova marten]

Depends on invest

[plain oyster]

[nova marten]

F2Ps played since syncho usually have SSS Lilick if nothing went wrong

In which case Midianca needs SS3 to actually join the team

[exotic fable]

How do I meta the new godfall mode?

[mighty tusk]

unga bunga

that said, is it just me or is vera buffed for the godfall mode this patch?

[loud geyser]

no way

[mighty tusk]

it happens when bianca's ult dmg is weak + blue orb being weak + no qte nuke

[exotic fable]

I lose to everyone, but mostly lilith

[tacit tiger]

Watanabe

[keen sable]

um no?

if a new player only have sss lilith bianca is still in

since u need sss tank

[past thicket]

petition to ban a certain CC that is spreading major misinfos

[keen sable]

what misinfo

[plain oyster]

https://youtu.be/9IC4mrH7U7k?si=D_WYk9KdhKnqLV3g

[keen sable]

r1 amp?#

r3

LOL

[plain oyster]

So?

[keen sable]

thats some brain cancer

[plain oyster]

R1 is enough

[keen sable]

is that ss0 vera?

[plain oyster]

Yes

[keen sable]

is that you?

[simple dew]

fate is feyer?!

[keen sable]

pgr is a ded game

why should i know anyone

[simple dew]

tru

[keen sable]

and who is this regard

doing a video and not writting out team invest

[buoyant hornet]

lol that doesn't make sense though

[keen sable]

since showing the team preset doesnt show if its ss0 or ss3

[buoyant hornet]

That's me thank you very much

[keen sable]

then for you buddy

add it into video info

[mighty tusk]

plus zex

[buoyant hornet]

Rosetta has a very distinctive rotation difference at ss3 anyone with baseline knowledge could pick that part up

[keen sable]

alright u should stop making videos

regarded pig

[buoyant hornet]

And judging by my big fat F2P label on my videos clearly an ss3 on a non free unit is not to be expected as baseline

[keen sable]

aint that hard to just put in all info

[buoyant hornet]

I usually do but this time I didn't and it's quite obvious that rosetta isn't ss3

[keen sable]

just put it in lol

its not hard buddy

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe you can talk like a respectable human being first then I'll listen to your advice

[keen sable]

[buoyant hornet]

Since you're contributing something to the community by......doing nothing

And spreading misinfo occasionally

But sure

[keen sable]

u dont do anything either

if u dont even put the whole team invest into the info

[buoyant hornet]

I try not to be blunt when calling out your misinfo and I correct it politely but you choose to resort to interesting words when seeing that I didn't list my rosetta as ss0 on a youtube video that says "f2p" on both thumbnail and title

I hope you can use basic intellect next time

[keen sable]

LOL

just make it clear what team invest u have

that i would have not asked

why are u talking so much when putting team invest does not even take 1min

[buoyant hornet]

Lmaooo

[buoyant hornet]

maybe because you're disrespectful and expect me to just gloss over it and do what you ask when you could've talked normally

[dire cape]

[buoyant hornet]

next time you should watch what information you give out

[mighty tusk]

I forgot, new meta team list when?

or just waiting for TS wz?

[buoyant hornet]

you were literally spreading misinfo several minutes ago btw

[distant wren]

So lively in here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/859798399540264960.png?quality=lossless&name=clueless&size=48

[keen sable]

im just shouting what meta help said

[past thicket]

So lively in here (1)

[buoyant hornet]

like okay but me not putting "rosetta is ss0 btw guys" on a f2p video is a grand disinformation crime like ok lmao

[keen sable]

brother u talk to much

[buoyant hornet]

What meta help has been saying for a week is that ss0 bianca is dead

Maybe read next time hope this helps :)

[keen sable]

they said u need an sss tank as replacment

[mighty tusk]

I remember nuke trying ss0 bianca in the team and said it was cancerous and sss tank does better?

[buoyant hornet]

type "ss0 bianca" in the search bar and read through the messages that come up

[simple dew]

you can use r2 amp but sss tank is better

[keen sable]

im not wasting my time on this garbage yap fest

[buoyant hornet]

sss tank > geiravor > other amps > ss0 bianca

[simple dew]

[past thicket]

u wasted it alr what is this guy yapping

[buoyant hornet]

SS0 bianca might catch up to vera's performance on some zones in the future

[mighty tusk]

why geiravor specifically? because of ult1?

[simple dew]

her qte is the fastest or smth

[buoyant hornet]

yeah gives more amp class in df form

[keen sable]

pretty much everyone was saying u need sss tank

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

once you build 1 df stack she maintains dark form

[night bay]

you've already wasted approximately 30 minutes being on this chat, surely you can spare 5 more

[mighty tusk]

OR another amp but adjusting rosetta's rot

[keen sable]

u are not even a part of this convo go clean your ass buddy

[buoyant hornet]

so 6x class = 24% on the dark portion of amp as well

[distant wren]

want info but doesn't wanna read, truly pgr player

[buoyant hornet]

Well maybe don't spread misinfo then call people names for no good reason lmao

[keen sable]

i litearlly asked some days ago

and people said need sss tank

[night bay]

didn't know conversations on public servers needed invites

[buoyant hornet]

and who are "some people"?

fellow misinformation spreaders like yourself maybe?

[keen sable]

just go search meta help

[rose yew]

Don’t lump him in with my kind

[nova marten]

Why is Mischaa defending Midianca anyway I thought u hate Attackers

[night bay]

he just wants to be different, let em be

[keen sable]

where am i defending her

[nova marten]

Especially a fraud on such calibur like Midianca

[keen sable]

liv is the same garbage

even worse

[nova marten]

[simple dew]

[night bay]

[noble zinc]

[plain oyster]

[distant wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[graceful summit]

Sucks I'm too late to the circus

[night bay]

tldr just humble yourselves

reading two words on a help chat doesn't make you a genius

[mighty tusk]

I just realized you have helper role here

[night bay]

guess they had sticky roles

anyways, i'm gone again

[night bay]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-mangal-war-dancing-chinese-guy-dancing-with-food-dance-gif-3180111146851375689

[buoyant hornet]

wait same lol

[distant wren]

fruslao with his wisdom

Dalao

[noble zinc]

[dreamy pelican]

too late to the convo

am i invited?

or will i be insulted for not having an invitation

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1467843509271924932/1467856314158944440/BECCCD1AE780B5A833DC521AEBF5F7D0.gif

[dreamy pelican]

literally 1984

oh wouldnt you know it

they left

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1456864563369611517/795A1F87C73428F1D6A477F224076CCC.gif

[buoyant hornet]

F2P/low spender dark team Warzone score performance ASSUMING YOU HAVE SSS DAEOMISSA (according to early testing, subject to change later)

SS3 Bianca ≈ SSS Watanabe > SS0 2nd amplifier (preferrably Geiravor) ≥ SS0 Bianca (5ult Bianca strat)

*With below-SSS Lilith comps, there's poor testing currently but it's presumed SS0 Bianca might perform better as a sub-dps to Rosetta

[dreamy pelican]

w-why are you looking at me like that...

[buoyant hornet]

@noble zinc pls pin this to avoid any more questionable information

(i'd pin but discord isn't allowing me until I get a phone lmao)

[mighty tusk]

everyone left so they can corner you somewhere else

[dreamy pelican]

[mighty tusk]

now I'm curious for ss3 lilith cases

[dreamy pelican]

ss3 bica does 5 ult too right

[buoyant hornet]

it's nothing new, the usual misinfo spreader getting irrationally mad at someone calling out his misinfo

[buoyant hornet]

For now that seems to be best yeah

[dreamy pelican]

extaria 2: electric boogaloo

[buoyant hornet]

I added that ty for bringing it up

[buoyant hornet]

literally

[buoyant hornet]

what's funny is that it wasn't even me who called him out, someone just used my video as a reference and he got mad at ME for not stating in text that my Rosetta is SS0 and not SS3 (on the video that has "F2P" labelled on it twice)

Lol

[buoyant hornet]

Oh wait I can pin messages again

Discord broswer > discord pc app istg

[simple dew]

techlao

[limber yoke]

depends probably

can go with blue

[quiet lily]

Hello is this tryhard place? I need teacher

[limber yoke]

go away unc

[quiet lily]

[noble zinc]

Ressurected

[limber yoke]

u thinnk can reach w52?

[noble zinc]

Run need to see

[limber yoke]

k

[noble zinc]

Cn at 13.64

Same inv as your

Hero

[quiet lily]

Hi teach me game pls

[limber yoke]

hey thats mine score

[graceful summit]

[noble zinc]

【2.3/2.3/3英雄暗单1364w-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/HQrdRko

[noble zinc]

[quiet lily]

[simple dew]

eu?

[quiet lily]

Everyone so rood here

[quiet lily]

Asian

[rose yew]

There is no guidance here, only bullying

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[quiet lily]

https://klipy.com/gifs/monkey-unhappy

[peak halo]

Then @noble zinc will teach u

[noble zinc]

Me ching chong

[graceful summit]

Is ching Chong not asian

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

Diff animal

[noble zinc]

They built diff

[peak halo]

Get me skillduck please

[noble zinc]

Duck mine

[peak halo]

[valid juniper]

[buoyant hornet]

unc arrived

[quiet lily]

Why ppl keep calling me unc

Im still in my 20s man

[graceful summit]

👴

[buoyant hornet]

oldy but goldy

dw you're my favorite unc

[quiet lily]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-turtle-funny-riding-animals-gif-3401017

[spare forum]

Anyone got dark team rotation with Wata replacing Bianca?

[hoary dagger]

Nuh uh ur 30 already

[quiet lily]

i skip this year

[hoary dagger]

Skip dn

[quiet lily]

[limber yoke]

@noble zinc https://youtu.be/XOTCya4Lsuc?si=yGOXv49e889jZTNg

[polar flame]

i miss my unc Kurai

[buoyant hornet]

yeah I hope he's doing fine out there

OG f2poor helper

[polar flame]

I’d appreciate any feedbacks and corrections! I am just unsure whether that I can get an even better score because my selena is 3S

https://youtu.be/5jPDNPMsNqc?si=a2Uo-RIJhIGlKHs0

[polar flame]

he helped me with his 222 fire team rot (pre-vera)

[polar flame]

vid got cut at the end because of error, but it’s just the same rot throughout the last bit

[mighty tusk]

why dont you do starter vero > 1 rot hanying > 2 rot selena?

[polar flame]

@wheat violet ban him

[mighty tusk]

<@&595893856554319873>

[quiet lily]

Yoo free money

Aw man

Im registering

[verbal forge]

To late

[polar flame]

I remember needing the bird CUB thingy for an extra orb
I can try that again, but not sure how significant that would change

[noble zinc]

Wave 53 seems possible

Too ich 1hp bric

[limber yoke]

Wow thats hax

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/918001207405051905.gif?quality=lossless&name=PepeRunCryTrip&size=48

[noble zinc]

14+?

[polar flame]

@weary summit ez

just muted?

[polar flame]

assuming that rot improves my score by hundred thousands, you think that score is usual for a 322 team in wz hero?

[mighty tusk]

sss selena with current zone should atleast get 5.5 mil

[polar flame]

actually really glad seeing that number, I was afraid I am much farther off

wait "at least"

[mighty tusk]

because my 42.33 (with alisa) only got 7.17 mil rn

so had to lower the expected score

[polar flame]

sss+ selena + selena pfp
that'll do it

[mighty tusk]

saw someone else

lower invest and reaching that score

[noble zinc]

Hand hurts not playing ult spam again

[polar flame]

his selena is SS 😔 🔫
but my rot seems alright for SSS? Apart from the starter rot

[mighty tusk]

looks ss3 based on BP

[polar flame]

right right, hoaxu doesn't explicitly show theranks

his hanying and vero are both ss3

[mighty tusk]

your selena rot is quite slow + during her field time, she does not get any shred field

[polar flame]

expected some pointy fingers to the input speed, haven't exactly adapted to that for a while

shred field?

[mighty tusk]

from hanying

casting her green orb deploys that and does dmg which applies tank class + phy shred and def shred

[quiet lily]

[mighty tusk]

https://youtu.be/qvJpj6PQaN4
@polar flame try adjusting selena's rot

[polar flame]

so I go hanying -> sel -> vero -> repeat

[shy kestrel]

Just came back after a near year-long break; damn feel bad that bot info is retired

hallo folks

[mighty tusk]

yea, for hanying's first rot, do only one, then the rest she does 2 rot

[polar flame]

thank you 💋

[mighty tusk]

but since my hanying is ss3, so you'll have to adjust your hanying rot

[polar flame]

yeah, I gain less orbs

there is that selector, but bad idea to be utilizing on a character currently on life-support

[noble zinc]

Right this need to play more cuz last week 11.5 it was

[mighty tusk]

can you check in trial zone if you're still lacking in orbs in later rotations?
Like this with ss0 hanying with dlt
swap to hanying > 3 red > 1 yellow > green orb> ult1 > 3-blue > ult till enough to ult2 >ult2> yellow > swap out

Next hanying swap > 3 red > green > ult1 > 3blue > ult till ult 2 > red till enough to get green > ult1 > ult till enough to ult2>ult2> yellow > swap out?

[noble zinc]

SS0 Bianca

Wut amp score you can get

[polar flame]

let me see

[polar flame]

works

[mighty tusk]

once you get used to hanying's rot, you need to be speedy with selena's rot

you've done good if when she's casting her orchestra ult before swapping out and a new wave spawns, they get shred from hanying's field

[polar flame]

thank you

and apparently, I got 3.5 mil in that run
I mistakenly looked at the highest score, but not the score I got from phys team

with the new rot, I need to give hanying the bird

because I run out of orbs unless I do the blue orb for selena 2nd rot

[mighty tusk]

then you're definitely doing something not optimal for selena's rot

[polar flame]

that's what I am wondering, my selena rot is basically inside the video

[mighty tusk]

I do
swap selena > 3-ping > hold ba> ult1 > blue > 2 concerto (OR 2 concerto > blue) > hold dodge > ult2
3-ping > hold ba> matrix ping > hold ba > ult1 > hold dodge > ult2

[spiral merlin]

I was about to question why cottie Selena with high invest like yours then I remember pwoinvest

[noble zinc]

[mighty tusk]

is 1-1-1 rot with veronica best for max invest phy?

[spiral merlin]

It should be yes

[mighty tusk]

meaning it needs vero invest

[spiral merlin]

That's why I remembered pwoinvest

[mighty tusk]

I'm still stuck with alisa

[spiral merlin]

Ye cooked

[mighty tusk]

I should be able to get sss hanying soon though

[spiral merlin]

Leap surely

[mighty tusk]

vero lacking in weap resos though

[mighty tusk]

I'm using base banner + this selector

screw it

[spiral merlin]

[mighty tusk]

running out of vouchers too, and it's enough to sss teddy once discount is up next month

[spiral merlin]

And then s rank free nirvatia drops

[mighty tusk]

we'll have to wait if she's actually s-rank so.....

[spiral merlin]

Idk what the hell they're cooking with cub

And supposed ppc wz updates

[mighty tusk]

I do wonder if doing 212 phy rot is better assuming hanying gets leap though

[spiral merlin]

Hanying leap should make 111 even more viable than before

The issue is currently if you don't kill stuff fast with Selena you get no shred

[buoyant hornet]

I keep joking about them releasing free s ranks back to back but that's actually not good for f2p now that I'm reminded of vouchers lmfao

[mighty tusk]

yea, so once we do get perma shred field, does that mean 2 rot selena 2 rot vero is viable?

[spiral merlin]

Nobody wins here

But people love to parade the word free around

Not realising it's extremely not free actually

[spiral merlin]

I'm not sure since haven't really tested how strong 2 vero is in Phys

[buoyant hornet]

It's something I have in mind to test

[mighty tusk]

I hear vero's long rot does more dmg than hanying?

[buoyant hornet]

the most plausible theory is an A rank cub for void or something of the sort but who knows

[buoyant hornet]

yeah

[spiral merlin]

That's partly why 111 works in the first place

[spiral merlin]

I guess so if she's a rank nihil

[buoyant hornet]

Imagine Vero ends up using the same strat as burn if han leap happens lmfao

[polar flame]

3.8 mil from the new rot
at this point, I remember giving up and just accept the fact of just maintaing hero position instead of being best of the best

😔

lowkey, this blunder likely applies to different teams
but this is the least of my worries, so a weekly mission paycheck means done 😊

[zenith thorn]

how do i do glacio

[tacit tiger]

Mostly the same

[wind hemlock]

On nihil

I have SSS Teddy, but would SS3 Lilith still be better because of Ishmael copying breaker class?

[sour silo]

My df team is bricked

[wanton hatch]

me also bricked on df

[wind hemlock]

Df is bricked without cw

[wanton hatch]

27m df CW

[foggy coyote]

What reasonence should I get for teddy spectre cus I have 9 of those red ticket things that let me choose

[sour silo]

Ice = 6 atk 6 sig 4 chen 4 sig

Raydiance = 6 atk 6 class (4 dav 4 guin)

[wanton hatch]

don't use red usb on atk tho

[foggy coyote]

Alrighty, thanks guys :>

[quiet lily]

youre welcome buddy

[mild egret]

Ban this person plz

[quiet lily]

im innocent man

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1467843509271924932/1467856314158944440/BECCCD1AE780B5A833DC521AEBF5F7D0.gif

[icy otter]

Shut

Pilot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1358099919684243486.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=worry_tased&animated=true

[opaque ridge]

u cant stop me

[exotic fable]

What is she doing?

Is that like a traffic cone, but white?

[mighty tusk]

wiping off that smirk in his face with her round hands

[exotic fable]

Oh round hands

[mighty tusk]

bad boy, you were thinking of that item weren't you

[exotic fable]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[median shell]

She's trying to put the traffic cone on your head

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1449224289050955898/i_0_20251211_121224.gif

[noble zinc]

@spiral merlin nvm sea seems doable 30 too found smthing

[exotic fable]

[crimson swan]

mod mute pls

[quiet lily]

[sonic tide]

Why u lie

[icy otter]

If he not pilot u pilot lao

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944802613378035733/976328729821339669/A7DE3942-7CD6-4863-95C2-70189BE26570.gif

[sonic tide]

Wym im washed

[noble zinc]

Pak hand me doin 30

[quiet lily]

u mean 32m?

[keen plume]

can we use dead wehls to construct towers

[deft apex]

only the walls

[keen plume]

[wanton hatch]

[ashen parcel]

Anyone wana gimme some money so i can whale some more

Would appreciate the charity

[ashen parcel]

didnt you get like 23Mil?

oh

my bad

DF

Lol yeah IM BRICKED TOO

[nova forum]

Just turn your cogs into irl money

[deft apex]

I'll be the middleman for this

[ashen parcel]

Only 10Mil

[ashen parcel]

Tbh its not even for pulls for rosetta

its actually

so i can get like

5-10CUB copies

My cubs are bricked

SSS+ characters and S CUBS

is premium brick

I'm losing my mind

[deft apex]

sorry I didn't know I was talking to a leviathan, don't eat me plz

[opaque ridge]

Tbh its not even for pulls for rosetta
its actually
so i can get like
5-10CUB copies
My cubs are bricked
SSS+ characters and S CUBS
is premium brick
I'm losing my mind

[nova forum]

3r tho?

[spiral merlin]

enough money for s+ multiple units yet wants donations

greed to rival kuro themselves

fr

[graceful summit]

I..
Don't think cubs is your problem

[fading kestrel]

any lao present

[steady otter]

https://youtu.be/v3fQS1_ANSc?si=338PoHmo07IRZ9Kd

ink + shiled = meta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936178936684109835/1456596658841194682/32EEB1992E36574DC350586D43AEC76F.gif

[ashen parcel]

[fluid gulch]

wadapak

rats and cats bald

[icy otter]

All lies

[icy otter]

Ur just bricked bro

🙏

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/712994812130754642.gif?quality=lossless&name=RosettaGiggle&size=48

[wanton hatch]

[icy otter]

Pilot my dadk

Dark

Go

[wanton hatch]

nuhuh

ask Nukey

[coarse gorge]

i still didnt build my rosetta, i am still confused whether 4 bathlon or 2 cottie 2 darwin better(with ofc sig) for ss

[sonic tide]

Just slap ur 333 dark in df

[plain oyster]

[noble zinc]

Ta pak first honse swap

Says 30% chance to fall

Am getting 70%

Falling

[wanton hatch]

that's what I did yeah

[sonic tide]

🤝 me too my df too brick

[wanton hatch]

[winter sparrow]

guys

should i all in vera shard

i heard she's fire team main dps

[noble zinc]

S+?

[steady otter]

i vote rosetta

2nd is vera

for ss0

[winter sparrow]

hmm i'm newbs

[noble zinc]

[winter sparrow]

so i cant understand what you said

[noble zinc]

me not newbie helper me out

[winter sparrow]

oh i remembered it

the one in phantom pain shop

[coarse gorge]

[steady otter]

rosetta first

[winter sparrow]

i havent roll her yet🥀

[steady otter]

gog et her

[noble zinc]

Both gives near same results let's see if ts build uses cottie then better to go with that

[winter sparrow]

i mean i know she's dark team core

[coarse gorge]

[winter sparrow]

but i didnt have crepuche so..

[steady otter]

clear all resource u haven't dont yet
midanca is just not playable at ss0

[winter sparrow]

wait i have those serum

like a lor

[ashen parcel]

Nervatia is that how you type it?

[winter sparrow]

what should i spend it for?

like the story or smt?

[ashen parcel]

I think Nervatia is gonna be lightning glaciation amp

[fluid gulch]

A rank, so irrelevant

[ashen parcel]

^

Discord, Jetavie and its a shame cause they have cool gameplay and designs

but their method of DPS is so irrelevent

Discord should of been tank or amp

like

ugh

so many ultima slash attackers

no amps 1 TANK

[fluid gulch]

Ima have to disagree on jetavie being fun to play

[ashen parcel]

what don't you like about her?

[fluid gulch]

Her whole gameplay is just holding orbs

hold orb for bar to fill up, release, ult

That's it

[ashen parcel]

I guess ur right it does get old

btw do you actually dislike selena

[fluid gulch]

Yes

With the bottom of my heart

[ashen parcel]

Why?

[fluid gulch]

I hate her character type, all of her frames gameplay, and her story chapters

esp 34

Crapiccio is the worst S rank to come out too

Getting gapped by A rank is crazy

Not only that, she didn't have TLC on release

[ashen parcel]

Woah woah

isn't lamia worse?

XD

[fluid gulch]

[ashen parcel]

I mean its not a bar but like no way right?

[fluid gulch]

I hope you're not serious

[ashen parcel]

I never played a single selena

so i woudnt know

[fluid gulch]

You better off using Rozen unless you had 3S Crapiccio

[ashen parcel]

Ugh

[fluid gulch]

That's how bad she was

Multiple fixes didn't help her

[ashen parcel]

Man You definitly see kuro got smarter over the years cause man some of these characters suck

Honestly i kinda feel u there is like some characters i avoid

though im more petty than objective with my aversions

I Don't really like nanami and i dont like hanying

Nanami? Why? I Want Trailblazer

[fluid gulch]

YO SPEAK YOUR SHIET

https://tenor.com/view/trailblazer-mech-pgr-trailblazer-gif-3237613502229032269

[ashen parcel]

Like I'm not a fan of the whole bumblebee Aesthetic and i think PGR is a story better suited for characters who are ready to catch bodies on sight

Trailblazer is just the cooler nanami who hit the gym got that zbroly Bully energy

"Gimme yo lunch money" Trailblazer

And then hanying is a similar thing but i also think her gameplay is meh
I also think she is a buzzkill Aura farming sense so i just dont get her

and the funny thing

If she had a really cool skin i might get hanying like some goddess of death hanying fit i'd be on that
But at the same. that would mean she about to get cliffed real soon

[plain oyster]

[ashen parcel]

My hope is

Alpha replaces hanying in ultima slash at the very least

Speaking off you think they gonna do away with attackers?

or make

A new attacker class repalcement

[spring oxide]

How good is Lucia crimson weave and qu shukra?

[deft apex]

New attackers are just Annihilators

Which... they forgot about

[ashen parcel]

Well there is a speculation alpha will be Nihil with her sister

[deft apex]

Or, you know, she could just be like an ice annihilator

Or sum

[ashen parcel]

Ice doesnt really fit her though

[deft apex]

Mark my words

Ice/ignition

[ashen parcel]

Bruh

Kamui is gonna be ignition

He is literally the new wata got fire igniting in his chest and everything

[graceful summit]

Both ded

Not worth

[spring oxide]

Then who to get?

[spring oxide]

Isn't like alpha new frame or something gonna come soon?

[graceful summit]

Yeah

[graceful summit]

What do you have?

[nova marten]

[graceful summit]

Oh no
You still have the s rank select on base banner?

[nova marten]

So nothing

[ashen parcel]

3 patches from now

Ofc we know nothing of the specs

its all speculation

[spring oxide]

The choose 1 from 5?

[ashen parcel]

ishmael if u can

[nova marten]

[plain oyster]

[ashen parcel]

i mean anything is better than picking qu and cw

[nova marten]

If its base always go for Vera Gay

[graceful summit]

These

The s rank selection

[nova marten]

Inb4 he used it for Qu

[graceful summit]

One time use until gets reset

[ashen parcel]

Oh

vera is a good pick

yeehyeheyeh

[nova marten]

We can save him

[graceful summit]

Yep choose vera geiravor from there, she will be your fire carry

[spring oxide]

Aight thanks

[graceful summit]

Also
General guide is to pull every new s rank that isn't free
So try to get Rosetta while you can

[spring oxide]

Okayy

[winter sparrow]

guys what do you guys recommend to use serum at?

[graceful summit]

Simulated battlefield
All in

Unless you're planning to do some story at time then spend all your serum on sim battle

[stray siren]

Materials

[hardy mist]

Hello gentlemen. This is what I have right now. I'm working to get the selector from Thunderbolt Research as that's what I have left. Of course, there'll also be the selector from Spring's First Moon.

Thunderbolt Research lets me select anything up to Startrail. Spring's First Moon lets me select anything up to Parhelion.

What are some recommendations? I just hit level 80.

[barren plank]

I would not use the Thunderbolt Selector for now, seeing you already have Nanami

[icy otter]

Everyone saying no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1358099919684243486.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=worry_tased&animated=true

[noble zinc]

Me nothing else playing this week

Only 3s dark

[late ruin]

is sequence pact important?

[wanton hatch]

try Ori

[graceful summit]

Hwae

[wanton hatch]

[graceful summit]

I'm not gonna mald 5 ult dork

One tap fine already

[wanton hatch]

idk how to 5ult dork