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if rosetta is an actual sidegrade to vergil for TS, o7 to rosetta fans
they take the fall
Im fine if Vergil is only playable at SSS
collab char shouldnt stay top meta for long anyways
sidegrade at high investment sounds reasonable enough
Unlikely
You cant ditch han no matter what unless she got replaced 
manifesting leap hanying next patch
is ss3 rose worth?
Very good but if you're F2P don't think about paid SS3 ever again
A rank = dead patch 
Won't get anything new
Why why

Always invest for new/more characters instead of vertical invest into one character i guess
how smol are we talking about here, monthly pass only or monthly + BP
why why
how significant is ss3 rosetta? I've been coming across this a lot
Looks pretty good
almost there
More charge attack damage, More dark shred, longer breaker class matrix shred uptime, more energy, refund half Slash stacks consumed
Looks pretty good to me
But ofc calculate your BC, make sure you'll have enough for the next S-rank characters and thier sig
Have the best memories for rosetta been decided yet ?
I feel like maybe cottie for SS0 and bathlon for SS3 and above?
From what I tried SS0 Bathlon run into some orb issues without dlt or deer pet
I think deer pet is enough tho, I don't have dlt either, but your rotation will be a bit longer
Dont quote me on that tho

I'm sure there're smarter people here that know better
what should I focus on hanying solacegune memory reso?
class reso
+15 atk top
Top: atk-crit
Bottom: class/core passive
Her pet is worth getting?
Pets are nice to have but you dont need to go out of your way to get it
mainly +20% atk for 5 sec when transforming into horse
it's alright, but pulling more copies or sig should be a priority if you want to vertical invest on her
For me I just save my free norman CUB tickets and pray

yeah
@carmine reef btw forgot to mention but my current best Vera dark score is using the tactic you mentioned where first swap is just 1rot + pre-pings to allow instant white orb on next swap
It also allows both ults to happen during amp timer and then afterwards it's prepings again to prep for next swap
@mighty tusk have you tried this
Whoa I gotta try that sometimes
thanks for the idea
my current best score is using Vera as well
my unc is trash so Vera it is
Worth getting if you can afford it
It's not something you should get as f2p player without further plans
this looks like similar to bianca
Pre ping who
Honse?
yea
first switch in do 1.5 rot, so the next switch in you can insta transform and ult fast
You should be able get both ult in before amp buff run out
and you set up orb ping for the next transform, then switch off
yeah like longboye said
It's probably not always objectively better than just doing normal 2rot but it's worth testing more
For Vera comps it got me the better result for sure
Wdym vera comps
Guys, sss nanami or ishmael is overall better?
Is it for darkflow?
using vera as the 3rd member
Well it was just intended to be for support mems and resos but then I remembered she's also darkflow lmfao
Later on I tested and apparently having even one unused DF stack permanently keeps her in dark amp mode
So yeah 6x class vera class amp completely overrides Lilith's
hard to say tbh lmao they're both used in so many different things
Ishmael's sss is techinically more futureproof but currently I'd say nana sss is a bit more influencial
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Vinci bonca 
How does the class priority works when you have the same class in a team?
4 sig 4 dv bianca?
Do the higher lvl one have higher prio than the lower one?
Vinci cottie ein
@celest carbon your funny dark invest might be able to utilize this lol
wait, bianca's sig memory buffs only her blue right?
It was on my testing list but it quickly seemed like it might not be worth it, maybe I was wrong lol
I mean SSS rose objectively makes the best use of this
So it might just be a sss rose thing
yeah but she's basically there just as glorified qte bot and cd filler
Im gonna demote
removing her sig memory really wont lower her ult dmg right?
Which makes sense with breaker sss her nuke is way more useful
And start mark that gives yes
It won't no but the person doesn't even ult with her in every swap 
(at least afaik, from what I remember it doesn't)
damn
wtf 
wait for beta info pookie
Also wtf your tickets
yea, should be next week
and bc lmao
I got rosetta's kit complete
Hmm, I already had sss liv, does this make sss nana less important than sss ish?
somehow got an early vero sig
Well amp class is basically made up of two separate buffs, our current understanding is that each half can be overriden individually if another amp has higher value on that same buff type
So for example a 6x class teddy or veronica can override Lilith's ATK portion of amp class but not the dark portion
But presumably a 6x class capriccio (assuming SSS since she's gen 2 amp) or df mode geiravor overrides both
Uhhhh idek tbh I'd have to think about the implications here
I see
if I'm using SSS Wata for dark team, he doesn't need sig mem right? cause darkflow shred doesn't buff dark correct?
Yes
yea, just have him hold 4 dv 2 eins 2 gloria
don't scrap it in case vero becomes new sub dps consistently
thanks, that's what i figured but wanted to double check
I picked up her sig for ppc
that's the plan yeah cause i don't have ss3 ros
yeah but aside from that if hanying gets leap then she'll presumably be doing more dmg in less time + perm shred field so a super likely scenario is veronica becoming an actual reliable sub dps or something
You can make bathlon SS0 Rosetta works with deer pet, but slightly longer rotation
hanying seriously needs to speed up on getting her green orb
Might shift to 4keats perhaps though
also need Wata sig to hold both dvc and bathlon if you're going cottie Rosetta route
which i dont have unfortunately

@ripe stag Nuke says the same thing
Orb bug
Can you rec yourself going slower? 
@noble zinc
Because i'm going to pick ish or nana(both already ss3) in the selector box, and somehow my arrival banner pity was already 50/60, so i'm really confused between sss nana or ish, so hard to choose 😭
what orb?
ohh deer pet huh, yeah cause when i was trying no cottie, i kept being 1 orb off on later rotations, hmm might try that then thanks
wait for beta info, who knows maybe we'll get some random unexpected leap that might change around the char priorities somehow
@buoyant hornet
Don't tell me her yellows still vanish lmao
That first looks like the classic orb bug but he says even after slowing down orbs still brick
wait ishy also inherit breaker SSS thingy in dark team
wat the helly
-3 sec switch time and 2 QTE
It's probably just a bad first swap on her

First swap shouldn't be that complicated considering it's just BBDB ult YR swap
Unless there's something I'm missing
'Why I'm asking him to re record
I assume she'll be other element breaker as well once they come out
yeah her adapting to all the latest breakers, tanks and amplifiers makes her more and more versatile
If we get a lightning amp that's somehow bricked as badly as veronica we could see ishmael still be used for example
in wz
yeah we need to see the whole thing lol
and investment friendly as well, 1 QTE support char for every element
in ppc she's especially useful
9AP ishmael meme isn't for nothing lol
My ishy is at SS3 rn, I think i'll pick her on the new free selector
I think we should all just wait to see who gets leaped next patch (if anyone)
Noone
🐴 ish AI bot
Well it's not like the selector missions will even let us get the selector until beta is already up lol
true lol
just pick Ish
but you could always use voucher to slowly get the leap copies
how many copies do I need to go from SS3 to SSS again?
2
2027 atker with healer reso
Teddy
setsu will set kuro on fire

Can't wait to see how badly they fumble the next ice attacker
he went to the wire field
Inb4 SS0 ice attacker dead on arrival
yea how to you even top Teddy without completely breaking the damage ceiling of the game
Well simple by giving attackers more utility and not locking qte nuke behind ss3 anymore
so what you're saying is...
It'd be mad embarassing if wanshi has a qte nuke at S0 meanwhile the attacker has none at SS0
Attacker QTE bot
if kuro sets up like old roadmap ( uncle - qu = kamui - alpha )
alpha will save qu legs
It's probably that yes lol
I don't really think kamui is next patch
It's definitely A rank bianca skin
ofc is nirvatia
we need some A rank nihil option
Remember when literally everyone thought she was a crepuscule skin during the time kuro was teasing her gamemode 
Yeaa lmaoo
Teddy amirite 
Imagine she's A rank amplifier
that would be cool
and i hope they keep going with the A-rank with TLC
A rank now hello GB
3S paid + 1S free + 1A
Not to brag but I may have been contacted by apollo before
Perhaps this is one of those times
And perhaps I just jinxed it completely
who is apollo
I'm saying I had an accidental prophecy
ah
holy burn is shafted
burn mob so cooked it's not even worth considering but honestly any other zone would still be outscored by ice, lmao just a few months ago burn was out highest scoring team ever
Rn it's basically equal to fire and worse than dark and ice
for my account
burn mob + disappearing stack + previous stacks overwrite my 20 burn stacks
Do we really think alpha will be ice attacker
likely
someone also needs to occupy burn attacker
If she's not dead on arrival then f2p ice will literally be scoring over 15m
plasma is dead also
I want alpha burn atker
That sounds like something they wouldn't wanna do for a team that just got a free amp that hits like a truck
we already have dark
I believe she might be fire genuinely
imagine
Fire is our oldest attacker not counting luna
Ice/ignition
And luna just had a massive glowup
qu
There is no ice attacker in ba sing se
In this country we only have an ice amp and a tank
Pyro leap next
kuro did not seem to hesitate on upping teddy's powerlevel that makes qu irrelevant

yeah lol
kuro is kinda weird with rosetta and bianca
We all knew it was inevitable tbh
veronica was obvious why
She'd kill qu no matter what unless she was hot garbage in dps even worse than veronica for example
yeah lmao
The vera scare really had them ruining her balance for no reason
I dont think it's the vera situation
Could've just given her a middle ground between v3 and v4
vergil?
yea, setsu made a post before liv beta came out
was concerned for liv's power
Liv was lucky that Banana is 1 year older and no Amp
that red huaxu clip was unforgettable lmfao
yea, no wonder kuro isn't gonna have it
lightning is so bottlenecked by having a gen2 amp lmfao
what happened
how they gonna sell a permanent unit when they can just use vergil in place of selena

the reason why veronica's dmg is so garbage because people used vergil in IB ppc in place of selena
for phy I mean
now imagine max scores locked to a collab unit
basically in intensive battle ppc on red huaxu (who's by far the tankiest boss on it, basically only worth running if you have s+ units) Liv at s+ did fast ult, then took away an entire 1/3rd of huaxu's hp after swapping out via off field ticks and qte nukes
also this
liv needs to be broken so people wont spam vergil for lightning zones in IB
Fk collab
Btw you may not know how absurd that is but like, huaxu is a boss that's tanky enough to have even S+ teams unable to kill earlier than 12-15s usually
Some even have to do 17s iirc
High invest collab unit also
S+ damage is astronomically ridiculous but is still challenged by this boss
Yeah i think rosetta ts for ppc can't rlly fast kill like vergil ngl
Yeah ib huaxu made for long term seens
also I've heard some weird rumors that dmc collab wasn't as huge in cn as glb thought
all I know is that my winning DMC skipping ass is gonna be able to whack powered on the head without having to suffer with off ele copium
i mean its dmc
I dont think dmc is very popular in china
first time when we get relativly btter than equal revenue
Welp they want to powercrept bergil with rosetta but afraid with ppl who spent money in collabs, my question is this is definitely avoidable if rosetta have another affix
since China player market is mainly mobile game, and the one dmc mobile game is dogwater
then we have to deal with the issue of having content locked to a collab unit
either way, we pay consequence
Yeah now the issue is new unit worse than collab unit for ts content ppc
Prob rosetta will win if huaxu
Other than tht nope
didn't know cn was outraged as well
but we dont know how many were outraged
but atleast we know cn is aware it's not a good idea to make them meta
Could be a loud minority yea
because vergil has literally zero alternatives
which is reasonable
Collab should be side grade at best
idk about outrage, just confused as to why they're popular
What's this weather in dark wz rn is it for Lilith?
just abused worgil
P.s. did you know that max scores for veronica plasma ppc does not belong to plasma team itself at max invest, but belongs to vergil TS
yea i know
Ofc fast kill
11 sec 
And for those who dnt hab bergil kuro have Rosetta the prob is Rosetta can't fast kill like vergil
So imagine sss new unit worse than collab

dumb q but when is 6dv useful? lnot short ppc runs with one burst sure just longer runs?
uppc not thick enough so ofc u can off ele fast kill
we're fcked either way
if u s+
SSS Breaker class
or char too op

I more fked
Ss3 han
Ss vergirl
And then the problem with having both sss bergil and rosetta, rosetta can't have ts shred so u still need to bring hanying for shred, and vero for buff
usually you wont get the 6 dvc benefit much even with SSS amp QTE reset
I'm gonna go sss hanying
btw the 4dv change makes cycling han qte literally instant now
I feel like you could definitely use 6dv in ppc
yeah that was my thought lol
= if wz ts exist choose bring bergil or Rosetta 
still horrible with mobs though, and they jump a lot
I think it's not worth sacrificing a 4 guin or 2 ein
It's the old map, i remember tht map me still use CA and then whale exist with their 3s nier team

and for PPC I think you probably dont do many QTE anyways
envoys
Better than nothing but beside that, it also directly buffs selena in ppc for anyone who can't run bat reso on han
fck, I'm in need of more weap resos
but with new dv u can make alot of alter strats unless u care abt split AP
I'm lacking vero weap resos
I scared about that
When i get her sss kuro will powercrept her
will prolly be useful for fast ult + qte nuke shenanigans
Ooo
Is Rosetta's resonance really sig?
that's what I'm using since my bianca is ss0 and benched
Still I imagine it's only worth using with SSS breaker class
different story if with sss bianca
I thought class is better
for more dmg on swap
I use 2 sig 4class
But i 333 313 team
@ Moderator

Whel more

But if main dps she surly ult reso

I mean both works
nuke primal ez
Ohh wait that cradle
why everyone is black 🥀
oh i think it's my pc issue
The punishing got them
your device in other planets
i need gpu soon ...
I need ram
My integrated gpu is fighting for its life as well❤️🩹
But that cost more than just ram
Good luck on that tho
me too 💔
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Hi, my current dark team is Laurel, Tenebrion and Lilith. Got Arete that will replace Tenebrion. Should i get SS3 Decryptor as QTE bot for Arete and Lilith, basically replacing Laurel?
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Ur dark team became arete lilith and another amp
A rank teddy ranks not really imprtant if u want use here as 3rd member
Current fire team is Hyperreal, Starfarer and Empyrea. I'll get Vera to replace Empyrea, i think. Is Emp ok as third slot on the dark team? In this team I'm only using her as dmg boost and qte, right?
Sorry if it's a dumb question, i don't really know
I don't have any other amplifier
That is not used in other teams
She is ok
Mostly u will replace with a amp who get r2 if she not r2
B-but how are you gonna get new ram for your new pc

Or do you just have a stock of rams lying around
Complete pc build have ram too.
Crack out the 32gb laptop , sell 4gb of it and put the remaining ram into the new pc 
Or its not anymore the case
28gb ram should fine
I still good with ddr4 16gb
But surely complete pc with ram is gonna cost more than the ram you just sold


The infinity money glitch aint working
Honestly I'd love to get a proper pc instead of laptop
But im a broke college students

Or at least get a laptop than can swap part easily, which doesn't really exist
But if i want upgrade my rams
I still need buy a am5 board and cpu on it
But i will not sell any of my kit for it
Is new rosetta ss3 worth it?
ddr 3
does anyone use 6 dv?
im geniuenly curious, in a nihil team does Luna or Ishmael deal more damage
max invest most prob ish
both SS, with sig weapon
cuz I really dislike Ishmael gameplay but if she deals more
Ss donno
Probably ish the main dps
Cuz luna not had qte nuke
But for me in sss felt them equal, but luna needs leap
Build for centaur?
Luna does more dmg in higher rank after leap upgrade
At low ss0 rank it's still ish
Luna' leap was trully the real anni reward
Has Rosetta build and rot finalized? 
I got Crucial 16 gb ddr5 5600 mhz sodimm 70$
And Lexar 7400Mb/s Nvme M.2 pcie 2280 2 TB for 183$
All brand new

He said "new PC", not a "fossil PC"

Good to u in my country ddr5 start with like $300
Kinda
The cheapest one is 80k huf
Which is around 250 usd
Ohh fund 72k too
But
Not really felt thats good option to get, cuz just 5600mhz ones
@noble zinc Any SS3 rose ref yet?
Full inv?
Bonca got?

None for now this inv me still stuck ss0
at least pilot a not homeless invest bruh
useless pilot activity 
Need that 11.5
this my acc

ss on your acc? who's gonna believe that line? 

Ss acc but all r3
Espada ahh invest
F2p
fk whel


pak meta
he got 59 pity, 50k+ bc and 5k+ rc
gonna sss+ the horse
B-but, priorities
Yes
just cosplaying as ss for now, I know 
i7 4770k will be enough

so true dalao
all these ss cosplayers
no one can beat us true ss0 f2p players

good lord he has so many alts here i dont even know which one is his
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im washed
bruh, I knew it
#📨・meta-help message
lmao
no, I mean, I noticed that ult > form switch was faster to do
just didn't know if dmg was different
vs switch > ult
r3 + ss cub thou, dunno if I hab the dmg for this 
u dont
ye, I see this run doesn't trigger matrix at all, no way I can do this with me pleb r2 s cub 
R2pleb inv 
compared to your r5, it's pleb 

use ur super rgb gaming laptop
Wut…my bonca is sss
what horse rank?
we're honsing around
It looks weird
did windbell post his vids yet?
I know he made 9/12/12 with ss0 horse
I only know ss3 runs 

He did 11/12/12 with 222.1 😭
ohh ye, 9 is with ss3
me need ☕

but then yea, you should be able to do windbell runs, right?

I did exactly what he did, probably just investment issue?
ohh, wait, you no hab cub
why no cub? 
Don't have the CUB, my Rosetta use Cottie so Bath is not HT nor reso, other Tank no Tank reso same for Lilick no Amp reso

Are these enough to make it worse
ht is a lot, cub not sure cuz I didn't read anything about it 
Welp
Is rwd-blue faster
I dunno wut was windbell invest thou
just know he usually does lower invest teams
Or it does more dmg something
He said he feel like Red Blue is faster

you gonna have to elaborate on that, I dunno the horse slangs that well yet 
wut is rwd-blue?
Red
Red Blue 
ohh kek, so just a typo
Ye balding one hand typing other 
but not sure about that
if you ask for wz rota, I have absolutely no idea how horse works there, it is beyond my remaining 2 braincells to play her there 
She got like 2 buttons tho 
I mean am getting weird place one
Doin more dmg
If goin rwd-blue
and in ppc, I just hold orbs hurr durr switch ult and stage done 
yesterday I tried wz, but no matter what I did, I never had enuff energy for 2nd swap, so I just gave up 

@noble zinc you got any reference on 333 dark with lilith instead of ishmael?
Ye
It’s Patton and sig 4 each 
That’s for true slash?
Dark too?
Nah why would you use patton in dark
Omg new migu believer
Thats why we go GB kids
What is GB?
every time I think you're whel you reveal that you're even more whel than I thought 🐳
Ive seen 4 sig 4 bath, 4 sig 4 cot, 4 sig 2 cot 2 darwin
the entire starting sequence was done without a single buff from lilith
Sigh
I think ss3 comp uses cottie
Ping her qte faster
4 bath 2 cottie 2 darwin for ppc 
Might even wanna double qte right there
the real tank role
parry, counter, receive dmg
not main dmg dealer
nana best char there 
Isnt liffu better
if you wanna sleep 
For speedrun is it triple nana?
dunno, I no meta in events, just fun 
is there even any point of doing it after clearing the shop?
Only 2.5k rc spent btw
It reminds me of Relink
Who
ye just hold right click and afk

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Only run with Lilith
the drops I got were:
98% attack equip
1.9% amp equip
and 1, and I mean a single one tank equip
wut even is right click? 
I changed all keybinds, they were unplayable for me 
just let windbell pilot u 
shield
Seems cooked
So no double qte on liliths rot
seems he insta qte swap if edb need get it
233
receive dmg & counter



why ishmael?
ishmael gets no class in this comp though, whats the point of using her?
Lmfaooooo best guidemaker in pgr history amirite 
True, why use ish... Classless is useless
Will never forget the video about the current best ignition dps and how she "doesn't do any damage"
Let's just say the guy you posted above has uhhhh questionable information
VERY questionable
Where my 3s rose
So might wanna avoid
Some of the worst misinfo I've ever heard I'm not even kidding LMAO
I usually refrain from being so blunt about it but yeah this case needs to be pointed out I fear
There's zero reason to not run bathlon on rosetta in the runs you've shown
I know what u are
Bonca 21 it was too
Bathlon rose, dv gloria eins 2nd tank, 4guin 4samantha lilith
So close already, I replaced the Hold Attack in Red to Blue mode since it does a lot more but still 2 bar off 
Bathlon is not reso nor HT and I don't have HT mats
I've seen notations like 2.033, what doess that mean?
NA guidemakers are bad thats all
Ss0 sss sss
ss0 rose already uses bathlon by default rip 😭
I see, so 2.3 would mean SS3? So it'd be 2.333?
Yes
Only specific cases are good, but generally they don't make guides, they just play
2.1 also means ss3
Me too lazy to make real guides
I miss the old days when I can just check pins to see the correct build
Me bonk bonk on warzone wave and forget to make guide


Welp gg ig
whel
cottie does still have use tbf but yeah

Old geezer
So far from the current testing in warzone bathlon seems better generally
We making faq actually useful
Might change later down the line
He's 3s now, no 2.3 vid ig
Surely her TS use Cottie
Creating a guide takes time, valuable time you could use to learn new techniques in WZ
Ss3 honse need dlt?
I just need the build 
4sig 2cot 2darw
@buoyant hornet ult spam 223 did?
I think it depends a lot on your investment and characters:
If SS3 Bonca, then Rose can use 4 Nimue 4 Cottie/2Cot 2 Darwin
If SSS Bonca, 4 Nimue 4 Bathlon
If Wata SSS + Lilith, 4 Nimue 4 Cottie / 2 Cot 2 Darwin
If Karen SSS> + Lilith, 4 Nimue 4 Bathlon
That's what I've seen, I don't know if there's an error
always faq
wha
Nvm 
Nah it's probably just the WZ PPC diff
ig I will settle with 16
Not
Not that huge
It's SS3 ofc bettwr
Ayne ppc big value can see idk
Wz I can't see
You can skip using dlt thts nice
Ga can use
You pullying?
I can guarantee it with 17k on basic
lmao



Does rosetta have a huge gap between SSS and below like bianca does?
Sss big jump yes
huge gap with SSS definitely, but I wouldn't say she is as bad as bianca
solid even with SS
bonca below sss


Lilick so op

what are your builds?
wata is good
wata should work yes
ishmael would be classless thus not being a tank or an amp

confidently misinfoing
Following Windbell rot and this is what I don't have compared to the vid
Instead I have 3S Wata compared to 2S Nana and 3S Lilick compared to SS3 Lilick
idk what windbells running, im assuming its 4dv 2 eins 2 glo on wata, 4 bath 4 sig on rose and 4 sam 4 guin on lilith?

whos using bath in your run?
is 6dv the default now or is it situational?
6dv i'd assume would be used in strats in ppc where qte kill is required from dps
Ss3 attacker required 
Arete
thats because we have a dps and an amp here so ishmael becomes the tank
Where can I find Rosetta rotation?
what youre suggesting is rosetta (tank/breaker), lilith (amp) so observer class wouldn't copy anything and thus remain classless
yeah I can see it with ppc but what about wz?
yes, go to observation notes, you'll see ishmael copies breaker class when used with lilith

would need testing ig, for now only 333 or above dark uses 6dv
Hopium in 6 months kuro gives another s rank selector that has ish
lemme open my game gimme a sec
I ask because in phys I notice that I would lose philips since keats is a must when goin 6dv
Sooooo
what rank?
Whats rosettas build?
depends on your investment, send me your huaxu
In case the liv thing happens again
SS0
T_T no idea about ss0 im sorry
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@celest carbon
is that the real fenfen
Cleaner version
Basically I'm trying to compensate the CUB and mem reso diff
i could be wrong because your investos seem a bit on the newer end
take it with a grain of salt
rosetta 4 sig 4 bath
lilith 4 sig 4 cottie
another amp (since you dont have a SSS tank) 4dv 4guin
yessir
I can safely steal Bonca's Bathlon right? She's SS0
where rosetta rot
222.3 invest huh
Idt there's any global ref
I think there's bili ref but not sure how to search
Ask nuke
do you have luna?
@noble zinc gib 222.3 dork ref 
Rosetta rot seems to be
Red/Blue 2x > Hold Basic > Blue/Red 2x > Hold Basic > White ping mode change > Hold Basic > Ult > Blue/Red 2x ...
after ult it's just same rot all over again?
i hate 5x Ult Bianca with HD
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In case the 4 sig 4 Bath build is better on SS0 Arete then I’ll try to grab a sig reso
Nuke did Blue Red > Red Blue
The diff is in the Hold Basic after you change mode, the Blue attack deals double dmg of the Red
alright
but blue also can send u to narnia (allegedly)

Does SS build change anything 
I mean the Cottie
idk, it's what sexous uses
Since 4 Bath seems to do it fine, or maybe later rot cant
so I'm going off of that
Got a little bit MOAR today
dont hold movement keys during blue
she will snap to the next unit within a certain range
Lao teach me drag
What is the world record for Dark WZ
Hard to say which serv thou diff serv diff fluc diff enemies placement diff scores
But highest so far 27m+ CN serv thou
333
33mil?
oh
my bad
XD
27mil?
Wow
Man i got a long way to go
Guys what do you give rosetta if you have equal invest as Bianca?
Resonance wise
It means full 3s
This is very slow
You have two options
Either you run Cottie on Crepe for quick double ult
Or
After first ult
You swap into ishamel > blue > ult1 > red > yellow > red > dodge x2 > ult2 > blue > ult1
Tho Im not sure if ish strat is enough for you to kill
Or alternatively u could just use SSS Lilith too
Im talking about the specific PP kill
Llyod will need a different rotation
But either way using the same rotation as recorded is extremely slow and not efficient, your invest should be able to score much high on both bosses
Also remember that the need to ult with Ishmael at the start of the fight is only a need for WZ as to apply the extended shred field
In PPC that is not an issue, there's only 1 enemy to debuff, the QTE itself will suffice
Also we now have Rose too so you dont have to worry
Well they revamped Fredrick anyways so it's useless now
Phillip?
what resonance should I pick for Rosetta Arete?
Yea Philip is the physical support memory
That's useless here
You need Guin which is the elemental support memory
No you would want Lilith to be the DV holder
So that when you swap into Ish after Bianca rot you can double trigger Bianca QTE nuke w DV
3S Wata still better than SS0 Arete for Darkflow?
Yes more shred and a secondary enabler
DD
Im not sure if she needs DLT or not though
If ur running a secondary SSS tank in the team tho, Rose can alternatively go GA
Test it out
Rosetta Arete will be only tank but I don't know what upper and lower resonance for her memories
Ish herself isn't doing much damage, but the QTEs certainly do
should I upgrade all of her skills?
Ofc
Sam and guin don't work on Ish here cause she's a tank
They need a heal to activate
Gloria just needs to land a hit on the enemy to shred
Since Fred is useless now
Crepe: 4Jeanne 4Bath
Ish: 4Cottie 2Eins 2Gloria
Lilith: 4DV 4Guin
4cot ish??
Is there smth Im forgetting
I wasn't sure what to put for the past 2pc
Read what you wrote again
I think #1447937004385075392 should be fine
That Ish doesn't do damage?
Well
Yes
But since we are putting Lilith on DV Guin
There's noone to hold sam
So
Gloria Eins 2Cot
a 2pc is missing
Fck I meant gloria not dv
WAIT OOPSIE
We have 6DV now
Go 6DV 2Guin on Lilith
Although test both cause idk anymore
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so basically i need 2 sets for rosetta
Does Liv just do df damage if darkflow is activated?
Or is there some sort of activation
Ult and ult mode damage
The HD outside of ult is still lightning
Which is why usually you just wanna always SP delay in DF
Figured
Man this ib kinda sucks
I use wata in all of these zones
Gonna have to use tank ish now
No no
Fck I wish I could record this
She needs to be on DV
Cause when you swap to Ish after Bianca rot you need to get as many Bianca QTEs as you can to kill the boss
Ish can't trigger DV if she's on field
This has been kinda standard in PPC for Ish kills for a while now
4Eins is useless
Crepe: 4Jeanne 4Bath
Ish: 4Cottie 2Eins 2Gloria
Lilith: 6DV 2Guin
I forgot we had 6DV now so I mistakenly wrote 4DV 4Guin
DV has a new 6pc passive
For Rosetta
sorry for offtopic but
can someone post the mogging rosetta gif
rosetta set still subject to change or its fine to take already?
I think you should be fine
#1447937004385075392
thanks. also dlt heavy on ss or nah?
It doesn't seem like it rn but I wont say definitely yes or no
will take standard r1 then, good
I got a question regarding dark team, if my Bianca is SS3, does she see any field time past 1 ult to buff her qte?
(SS3 Rosetta, SSS Lilith)
5 ultis bianca, 2 ults Horse
Lilith QTE slave
is there a rota ref for rosetta yet
Lingya is recommended. You can pre-stack the links for better amp buff uptime, but you miss out on many buffs like weather and Darwin.
0:00 Bathlon
1:00 Cottie
now I'm interested in ss3 rot 
I'm hella confused why Arete has like zero orbs on switch in w/o DLT.
You do red+red + hold BA, switch to blue, tap blue+... and you have no orbs for second blue.
So how is that supposed to work?
How does Bianca pull off 5 ults? Even with flt doesn't she run out of orbs?
Teach me dalao
W 4Cottie and DLT
You start of w 2 ults first rot, 5 thereon out
6 ults last
Is there a guide or doc somewhere where I can learn that? I'm very uncomfortable on Bianca.
Is my Physical Warzone really held back that much because of not having Hanying 6 star weapon for harmonised Patton?
I see someone else holding it back
I don't have Veronica
She's also holding it back
By alot
And so is hanying, I guess
Since no one here is applying patton
Your hanying's patton is for herself
Yeah
Atp Catherine would be better
It's just kinda a shock with how big of a difference in points my physical warzone is compared to every other element
Your other elements don't seem too far ahead either though
I would say 1/3rd more is pretty significant
At SS0?
There's the difference
You don't have ultima it sounds like
Ice is 2.333 113 (teddy wanshi lilith)
dark is
233 123 (rose wata lilith)
Though will have to try since my dark is 2.323 113 with bianca
Oh shi, I'm always used to have it I take it for granted.
Still trying decide whether to put 3rd and 4th signature pieces on top or on bottom (-6 ATK total)
But 4ult sounds very daunting for a casual like me
Is that an r3 selena with 5* hanying and alisa lmao
Let this be a lesson in understanding what vertical invest does in this game
And also Ultima slash might use Cottie, so putting it in bottom slot migh save hypertune mats
Can selena manage her own in phys without dlt
Doesn't dark already use cottie though
Is it better than with dlt
Not in wz
Only at SS0, but if I'll get SS3 from some future selector...
Imma cheapskate, I know
Same
I already ht bathtub so
Ss0 both builds exist
Ss3 cottie no longer exists because ss3 solves the issue that cottie addresses
For wz ofc
I haven't put a single braincell towards ppc for this character yet so idk
But general use ss3 and up should just be bath
Strong enough to not bother?
I just haven't done ppc yet lmao
XD
Didn't setsu put bath in ppc
Or was that windbell i forgot
Oh it was windbell
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