📨・meta-help

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1467195475961839780/1769866380_1.webp

[solemn berry]

Gif so good it doesn't even replay unless I scroll back

[simple dew]

i thought it was just me

[solemn berry]

It also lags my phone a bit

[rose yew]

It’s what happens when you shady converters nya
Or maybe it’s a mgif

[minor geyser]

Who do i target on basic

[gray totem]

vera geiravor

[solemn berry]

Ceilingchan between me and sss nanami who would you choose

[minor geyser]

Oh dang i js got selena

[wanton hatch]

[solemn berry]

YESS YESS ACT BEFORE YOU THINK YESSS

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[gray totem]

sSS nanami is temporary, mambo is eternal

[wanton hatch]

[minor geyser]

Thought she was good since shes on the lead on the phys attacker tierlist thing

[gray totem]

bro asked when he already made decision

[solemn berry]

Ffirst by default

Everybody else is weak

Wait

By attackers?

Of course she's gonna be first

[gray totem]

she has her own tier

[solemn berry]

Oh yeah i forgot

[wanton hatch]

[solemn berry]

The only two teams she's in are in the bottom tier

[wanton hatch]

Glacio was good

[minor geyser]

Kinda got the timing wrong cuz i didnt expect to get her at first 10

[solemn berry]

Well

[gray totem]

50 years ago

[solemn berry]

That's unfortunate

[wanton hatch]

k unc

[solemn berry]

Ok unc

[wanton hatch]

[solemn berry]

Next you're gonna tell me of the Hyperreal skip propaganda times

[gray totem]

hey back then the soviet union still existed and zexous was still a young man and mambo hasnt been born

[wanton hatch]

never had him

[solemn berry]

I actually played pgr before him

But he is my dad

[wanton hatch]

back then there was no such thing as gacha slop

[minor geyser]

Thought chat was dead earlier so i went yolo

[gray totem]

meta help is never dead

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-smh-laughing-laugh-gif-16005642344163940773

[gray totem]

only sleeping

actually it might die next patch

[minor geyser]

Whats gonna happen next patch

[wanton hatch]

you become metaslave next patch khaled

[gray totem]

every meta help user quiting

[solemn berry]

Born too late for the dalao era

[wanton hatch]

step up and make meta help great again

[gray totem]

nergi has taken me to factory land

[solemn berry]

It won't work.

I've tried.

[wanton hatch]

who am I gonna copy homework from now

[solemn berry]

Back in the dmc collab when everyone left

I tried

I tried to make my new generation

Khaled

Wolfie

[gray totem]

all died

[solemn berry]

Everyone

They left before me

[gray totem]

the gameplay help bloodline ends with us

[wanton hatch]

oh dmc, dead patch

[solemn berry]

That's why I'm back

To become the dalao they could never be

[minor geyser]

Should i get 30 shards from phantom currency for epitaph even tho ion have vera and liv

[wanton hatch]

[gray totem]

no

[sonic tide]

Yeah me too i need to copy homework me casual

[gray totem]

the mods did everything in their power to kill gameplay help

[wanton hatch]

[gray totem]

the game's state didnt help

[minor geyser]

What do u recommend

[gray totem]

teddy

[sonic tide]

[gray totem]

ss her

bro

he dont have hanying

actually cooked

selena migth as well be toilet paper

she gonna tickle those wave 5 enemies

[minor geyser]

Alr ima do that so i can save for next banner

[gray totem]

use phantom shards on her

[minor geyser]

Ngl i dont even know how to build her since the bot is dead

[gray totem]

4 joanna 4 chen

just ask here or general help

[gray totem]

next patch when everyone leaves

paper, milk, and alpha will be dalao in meta help

[minor geyser]

4 2 respectively if i dont have 8 slots unlocked?

[gray totem]

are u not lvl 80?

[minor geyser]

I am

[gray totem]

where are your coke cans then to unlcok the other 2 slots

go do spill points

in clash reflection

[minor geyser]

How do i do those

Oh

[solemn berry]

Ok I have to be dalao

I can't let that happen

Also why do people use 2cottie 2eins for nanami in wz

Isn't 4cot better

Or does eins help liv that much

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-uninstall-launcher-pgro-gif-14146122906222480955

[noble zinc]

[fluid gulch]

[noble zinc]

[young badge]

[noble zinc]

Where liv hitting her qte nuke wtf

Every other bij got eye problem here

[soft glen]

if i plan on getting bianca crepuscule with my member target which one of these should i get with the beginner S rank selector?

[barren plank]

It doesn't matter which one you get

As for base banner rateup, I assume you're a new player?

[steady otter]

i think XXI still better than tenebrion cuz re-apply tank class off field

if ur tenebrion *5 weapon

yeah

you not gonna give him sign weapon + domain right ?

also rosetta next week

[fluid gulch]

So no point getting any of them

[steady otter]

yeah

[soft glen]

yea it’s my first day playing

[fluid gulch]

Also it's recommended to get Vera Geiravor from standard banner

Not crep

[steady otter]

nonomi i think
for "a bit better choice"

karen & lee is useless

and you can get free alisa echo from dorm

[fluid gulch]

So you just pick whoever

Pick ember

For slurs

[plain oyster]

Pulse

[fluid gulch]

ember

[plain oyster]

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1443227734116663337.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=AngryPheeb&animated=true

[soft glen]

ohhh rip okay i’ll get vera geiravor instead

[fluid gulch]

[simple dew]

another new player almost irreversably bricked

[steady otter]

pick pulse from free selector

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-superman-gif-632723218522114279

[steady otter]

nanami + vera = boom

bianca crep sucks

[soft glen]

okay bet

[soft glen]

i just wanted her because she had my favorite attacks from the people i’ve seen but since she sucks ggs

[steady otter]

u asking on meta help room
so im telling the truth about her

[simple dew]

yea she looks cool but her dmg is flat 0

[soft glen]

that’s rough

[soft glen]

is geiravor the only valid pick to make as a new player for meta or is she just the best

[steady otter]

yeah she is best dps at ss0

[fluid gulch]

She's da best

[steady otter]

short input
huge dmg

and she is amp

long life

[barren plank]

I would recommend you get Vera Geiravor over Bianca, Bianac at SS0 will more or less be powercrept by Rosetta

[fluid gulch]

I heard they buffed her dark

[sick flower]

whos dark

[fluid gulch]

rosettas

[sick flower]

again? right before release?

[fluid gulch]

Yes

[sick flower]

did they buff her slash

or only dark

[fluid gulch]

No

[sick flower]

kuro wants bianca to be only meta in raydiance huh

[soft glen]

oh okay thank you

[soft glen]

ohhh

[humble jackal]

should i summon for her or nah

i saw on the meta list that sje

she's a free character*

but idk if that's true lol

so imma just ask here

[fluid gulch]

Why would you summon for her

Literally said yourself she's free

[humble jackal]

well i had doubts

https://tenor.com/view/iwakura-lain-suicide-thinking-gun-gif-11659613

where do you get her for free?

in an event?

[fluid gulch]

mission tab -> service missions

[humble jackal]

aight ty

[fluid gulch]

They update weekly

[humble jackal]

oh that's good

[simple dew]

can we remove all helpers and replace them with an ai chat bot

that will have a schoolgirl personality

[silent oyster]

The missions?

[fluid gulch]

Yes

[solemn berry]

Do you want Vera.AI Helper back?

[simple dew]

yes

[solemn berry]

Ok

That's unfortunate

You're not getting her

Maybe on a special day...

[simple dew]

can i get mambo ai insteed

[solemn berry]

One day on february

[simple dew]

[solemn berry]

Wait

@formal radish

Here's mambo ai

[simple dew]

that ones dead

[solemn berry]

U sure?

Maybe it'll come back

[fluid gulch]

One must hope

[solemn berry]

Perhaps very soon....

Perhaps

Nah I'm just kidding

[simple dew]

get back to the basement

[solemn berry]

I'm technically as mambo.ai as it gets

I am the mamboest mambo that mambo has ever mambod

Vera.AI will be back on January 30

[simple dew]

i have no clue whether i should bald nihil or lightnings

[solemn berry]

Nihil

Yeah set date

[simple dew]

i got 5m with homeless invest

[solemn berry]

Vera will be back on Jan30

[simple dew]

232

[solemn berry]

What invest

[solemn berry]

Reso?

[simple dew]

112

wata

[solemn berry]

Seems kinda low

Seems really low

[simple dew]

[solemn berry]

I have 232 123 tho

[simple dew]

wehl

[solemn berry]

Wata

With 7.8m

[simple dew]

[solemn berry]

Can get 8m if I got a proper run in

Not even malding

Just a proper run

[simple dew]

its all eus fault

[solemn berry]

Oh eu

[simple dew]

cubs?

[solemn berry]

Yeah you're fcked budy

[solemn berry]

Uhh only luna and ish have their cubs

Both s

And it doesn't matter

Ur EU I'm Asia

[simple dew]

i have neither

i should be able to atleast push 6.7m

[solemn berry]

Everyone knows eu is the worst region

[solemn berry]

That was my very sloppy wontap score

[simple dew]

ur on wehls server

[solemn berry]

My 7.8m run was a sloppy wz score after finding out what th erot was supposed to be

Although I messed up my ish rot

I probably wasn't consistently getting into the amp buff with ish

[simple dew]

wait does luna convert cub buffs

i have ss nana and pyro cub

[solemn berry]

Idk

If you ever find someone

Make sure to ask them if luna converts leader skills too

I could probably test that...

You test it actually

Put luna on the team

Wanshi and wata for the other 2

Set wanshi as leader

And see if wata does more damage than if there isn't luna

[simple dew]

<@&595893856554319873> moni

[visual topaz]

[neat rivet]

what's the needed set for limpidity?

[simple dew]

4 heisen 4 cottie

[neat rivet]

thanks, should u hypertune?

[spare coral]

Slowly getting to the point of the game where I need defined teams. If you were forced to play on this acc and couldn't start over, wwyd?
https://huaxu.app/na/players/22326351/characters

[simple dew]

what set wata

4 alph 4 dv or shakes

<@&595893856554319873> moni!!!

[pearl solstice]

[lusty tendon]

[simple dew]

hi fork

[noble zinc]

[simple dew]

who leader in nihil

[noble zinc]

I haven't played that much low invest nihil

I prefer ish

Can be wrong

[simple dew]

ok wehl

[visual topaz]

I run Ishmael at my invest but apparently Luna better

[ebon dragon]

Hello. Where can I find the guide to Teddy's optimal memories, and whether she needs DLT to function? Sadly, I couldn't play the game when the patch came out.

[slate gull]

4sig 4chen
no dlt needed

[ebon dragon]

Thanks!

[ashen parcel]

I would like a Mara (buddhist devil) or Underworld maiden skin for solacetune

something with more aura

[simple dew]

no

[ashen parcel]

yes

[simple dew]

she will get one when she gets benched

and sent to the underworld

[ashen parcel]

lmao

LMAO

You know what

[ashen parcel]

I F*"& WITH THAT Dap me up!

[simple dew]

[ashen parcel]

[buoyant hornet]

232 112 team should be 6m bare minimum this week

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

get to malding pookie

[simple dew]

i did 1 perfectish run and the game just decided nuh uh and told me i failed

[buoyant hornet]

not enough more mald gotta lose hair

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[carmine reef]

2.332.3 112 is 10m

[simple dew]

fund me

.

[carmine reef]

fund urself

$1 luna

[noble zinc]

[gray totem]

fk whel

[carmine reef]

poors dni

[eager schooner]

hi guys, im new at the game, and i was trying to "resonate" for the first time. How do i know what are the "perfect" resonation stats for each one of my characters? . ( i was trying to "resonate" Ishmael: Parhelion

[simple dew]

asking here

[noble zinc]

@gray totem smh newbie helper slacking do your job!

[sick flower]

if you have dps build for ishmael go for
top any attack +15 bottom signature move

[eager schooner]

so in top 3*15+x (def//crit or whatever) . And in the bottom x3 signature moves ?

[eager schooner]

thanks alot ❤️

[sick flower]

uh

wait let me just get a ss

[eager schooner]

yeah im a little lost ngl ><

[eager schooner]

thanks alot, literally u saved me ❤️

[sick flower]

anyone else you need build for?

[ashen parcel]

clip source pls

[simple dew]

source chat gpt

[eager schooner]

yes plz, my dear Spectre

[simple dew]

4 joanna 4 chen jiyuan

[high drift]

Yo. Epitaph or Oblivion ?

SSS priority ?

I already have SSS teddy

[sick flower]

is that a question

of course epitaph

[high drift]

Ty

[solemn berry]

Dv

[solemn berry]

Lilith

Wanshi

Smh

[simple dew]

lcw

[high drift]

SSS already

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[simple dew]

wanshi

[solemn berry]

SSS+ already

[high drift]

Also SSS

[solemn berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1466992203279892814/1234.gif

[simple dew]

packing whel

[high drift]

F2p btw

[solemn berry]

You could do that as f2p

[manic abyss]

what memory should I use for glaciation selena?

[solemn berry]

Wait How'd you already have sss teddy

[high drift]

pull for her

[simple dew]

do memories have a global cooldown

[simple dew]

see thats why whel

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

And how much BC do you have now?

[wanton hatch]

klen burana

[high drift]

got lucky for some pulls so i spend my bc to get teddy

[wanton hatch]

[solemn berry]

How much bcxxcccc

[manic abyss]

4pc both?

[wanton hatch]

yeah

[simple dew]

yes

[manic abyss]

I have selena ss3 do I change her resonance to ult or let it be core passive?

[wanton hatch]

still core

[simple dew]

not worth changing either way

[wanton hatch]

what glacio invest

[sick flower]

doesnt her music orb count as core

[manic abyss]

okay thanks

[tribal bluff]

Does radiance team rotation change at all with SSS spectre?

[wanton hatch]

223?

[tribal bluff]

yea

[wanton hatch]

https://youtu.be/sZVlN7I87gs?si=CLC3AFXQ2mfcawOJ
copy homework

[deft apex]

Hi3 3s logo

Devious

[soft glen]

considering i chose nanami pulse and vera geiravor as my starter characters who should i pick from here?

[wanton hatch]

all really outdated

tho for me I'd pick Rosetta

[simple dew]

rigor

[sick flower]

SSS spectre charges up double the amount of raydiance stacks just guess what happens lmao

[soft glen]

💔 i don’t have much to work with sadly

[soft glen]

thanks

[carmine roost]

that's outdated rot, there's a new one

[wanton hatch]

[carmine roost]

.

[wanton hatch]

would you be so kind as to provide us with the source?

we would be oh so gracious for this goodwill

[exotic fable]

The only good ones here are Tenebrion and Rigor; you can get Arete next patch, so pick Rigor

[plain oyster]

555?

[exotic fable]

Ardeo is probably a better fire tank than Pulse now

[carmine roost]

No, I don't have SSS++ team

[wanton hatch]

more hax, 777

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

.

[wanton hatch]

[carmine roost]

What source?

[wanton hatch]

meant vid

[carmine roost]

Oh new rot?

[wanton hatch]

yepyep

gib

[carmine roost]

just check my channel

[wanton hatch]

[carmine roost]

https://youtu.be/rr2bKoFcZMA?si=1HaH_9G4wpnsWp1h

It's this one

New rot

Harder to do but better

[wanton hatch]

tnx lao

off I go to lightning with my raydiance again

[plain oyster]

[wanton hatch]

Casual

[spiral merlin]

Always has been

[solemn berry]

That's what I'm saying

Why were people recommending pulse during ardeo's time

At that time you could've chosen like Entropy

Oh right we had free stigmata

[spiral merlin]

Yea

[solemn berry]

Even then though

I remember people were recommending pulse during ardeo's patch

And free stigmata wasnt for a bit after that

I think

[golden merlin]

Give hax

[solemn berry]

AAAAAHHHHHHHH

[golden merlin]

So its not 254 anymore?

[carmine roost]

Play PC

[golden merlin]

I do play pc

[carmine roost]

Ask nude for more hax

[golden merlin]

Im just too lazy to watch a video

[carmine roost]

Also idk for ss3

I did 255 with SS nana and ss0 bonca cuz she uses cott

[golden merlin]

[carmine roost]

Ask @noble zinc if SS3 Bonca should do 255 with SS nana too or not

[solemn berry]

Why does sp delay have to be so easy on pc but so hard on mobile

[carmine roost]

Whether it's Darwin or cott

I don't play ss3, so idk

[golden merlin]

Nuke help

[solemn berry]

Raydiance will be my most invested team soon

2.333 111

[carmine roost]

Whaduhell

[true pivot]

so whel

[golden merlin]

I cant even do sp delay on pc

[solemn berry]

Just spam the orb and the ult button on your keyboard

[golden merlin]

Im too slow

[solemn berry]

Its not even that fast

[golden merlin]

How long between orb and ult click

[rose yew]

Tell that to my 220ms bt keyboard

[solemn berry]

Maybe about

Ok I've played games where I have to be precise with my spacebar clicks

It's about 50ms

[golden merlin]

Im not that fast

[solemn berry]

It's really not as hard as it sounds

[golden merlin]

I just have to hit ult between the time the game registers the orb and when it does the pinging animation?

[solemn berry]

That's what I used to do

Spam ping and click ult once at the perfect time

It was pretty consistent

But the 3p ult spam seems to be oddly consistent

That might be because there's a delay in the ult actually happening and the orb

Because otherwise I would have had many times where I ult and not 3p

But that's never happened

So there must be a delay

[golden merlin]

Does liv run out of orbs when spamming sp delay?

[carmine roost]

The bad part about sp delay is your run dependant on it

[solemn berry]

If you do it wrong yes

[carmine roost]

Fail one, restart

On top on mobs and other malding

[solemn berry]

There's also a guaranteed success way

[carmine roost]

I'm personally not built for that much mald

[solemn berry]

You hit 3p and ult almost instantly after eachother

[golden merlin]

Like
I play solo liv
So sp delay is doable without running out of orbs?

[solemn berry]

The window for that is after the explosion

[solemn berry]

No of course not

[carmine roost]

Said easier than done

[solemn berry]

It's not that hard

You just need to know when the explosion happens

The sp delay is basically guaranteed

[golden merlin]

Is sp delay basically a bug?

[carmine roost]

I'm not spending 3 days straight just to find that "when the explosion happen" and mald another 3 days just for lightning

[solemn berry]

I wouldn't say so

[carmine roost]

Especially on mobile

[solemn berry]

It's not intended

[solemn berry]

Same

That's why I just spammed

But I got consistent at it

[golden merlin]

Why am i asking anyways

[solemn berry]

It's like the vera Geiravor dodge timing

[golden merlin]

I kiwi

[solemn berry]

You just know it

You just have muscle memory of it

[carmine roost]

It's an exploid

Not a bug, not a feature, but something you found from the flaw of the game mechanic

[golden merlin]

I legit forget my inputs and rely on muscle memory

[solemn berry]

Yeah then you should have no problem

[golden merlin]

Im never going to learn sp delay anyways
Ori can mald for me

[solemn berry]

I used to play a roblox game called parkour

Where I had to be very fast in my spacebar inputs

I got about 60ms consistently

Pressing spacebar twice

So if I'm spamming with seperate fingers

Actually yeah it might be a little tighter

Maybe around 30ms?

But still not too hard

No no it should be alot of leeway

[brave dagger]

oh thats nostalgic

[solemn berry]

If you were any good at that you won't need to worry about sp delay

Wall climb boosting

[brave dagger]

i remember magdashing

learning it advanced my ability to learn inputs by a ton

was fun

[solemn berry]

Magdash is eh

Actually

Mag dash would be perfect for sp delay

Pressing e and space

Although you'd have to be a bit more precise on sp delay

But coming from mag, grapple, and gearless

Mag is probably the best for sp delay

Gearless would help you alot for general pgr inputs

[young badge]

[ashen parcel]

Waiting for tommorow

[solemn berry]

Bloody whale

No bc

All the rc

[ashen parcel]

Y'know the Narwhal that teams up with rosetta and aids her yah thats me

I'm the Creature Whaling into her to get her to SSS+

[solemn berry]

Good for you

[ashen parcel]

🤗

[wanton hatch]

so fat

[solemn berry]

Me I'm only sss'ing nanami

[wanton hatch]

30m dark or brick

[ashen parcel]

I lowkey want nanami to be replaced but i know that isnt gonna happen

I Don't like the bumblee asthetic i wish we had "TrailBlazer"

[solemn berry]

Ok lemme think...

Characters to powercreep before nanami

Fully

[ashen parcel]

Yeh

[solemn berry]

Alisa
Qu
Luna
Wanshi
Hanying
Lucia

[wanton hatch]

Ayla, Wata, 21

[solemn berry]

Oh and 21

No ayla is already done

[wanton hatch]

oh right Teddy here

Hanying can stay idc

[ashen parcel]

21 needs crazy powercreep

[solemn berry]

My sss nanami might serve me 7 patches

Idk how worth that is

though

Not like it's a bad choice

[ashen parcel]

Thats a really good invest

[solemn berry]

Yeah

[wanton hatch]

could never go wrong with 3s tank

[ashen parcel]

7 patches is like almost a whole year

[solemn berry]

It's not like I can sss anybody else

Well actually i can

[clever birch]

Shard or resonance material pick ?

[solemn berry]

But none better than nanami

[wanton hatch]

shard

[solemn berry]

Never resonance

Always shards

[ashen parcel]

so atm i dont have naami more than S0 i can get her to SSS its just i really dont like her personally

Same with solacetune

[clever birch]

Ok

[wanton hatch]

I wish I was told this when I started

[ashen parcel]

But solacetune is more agregous to me

[solemn berry]

Yeah I also used it for resonance

I could sss uhh

[wanton hatch]

hey Hanying good

[solemn berry]

Qu (hell no)

Hanying (hell no)

[ashen parcel]

F(£) Hanying

[solemn berry]

Lucia (hell no)

[ashen parcel]

Oh yknow what i had this conversation earlier today

but

[wanton hatch]

Wanshi and Alisa was stuck at ss, just got them 3s like a week before patch

[ashen parcel]

Attacker is like such a slave class

[wanton hatch]

Attacker needs too much conditions to use properly

[ashen parcel]

You can have 2 Tanks no attacker or 2 amps no attacker

Attacker is constantly fighting for its right to exist in a team man attackers suck overall

[solemn berry]

Yes we know

[ashen parcel]

I Hope alpha frame is like an attacker/amp Or Attacker/Tank (Sheild breaker hybrid)

[wanton hatch]

just attacker I say

[ashen parcel]

That would be such a slap in the face

[wanton hatch]

kuro wouldn't be dumb enough to release a new class right away while Breaker still not completed

[ashen parcel]

tbh

they might

its their Fav daughter

and

they might showcase new classes with the new characters

[wanton hatch]

won't

shouldn't

ruining the game on their own

well it's already ruined but hey

[ashen parcel]

Tbf they kinda are ruining their own game by adding powercreep without new elements

[wanton hatch]

new elem?

heck

[ashen parcel]

it will be very annoying the day when teddy and nanami are seen as Fodder trash

at this rate

we need new elements lowkey

they are adding new affixes

why not new elements

If not everything will power creep itself it will be very obnoxious

[wanton hatch]

more problem for new players

it's already a hassle to build a proper team

affix you only worry late game

[ashen parcel]

had to re-read to fully get your point

but ok hmmmm

Elements are simple though?

[wanton hatch]

I said proper teams for them

[ashen parcel]

I guess having free s characters like teddy and wanshi solve that issue a bit

[wanton hatch]

just a bit, but it takes time to build them properly also

and add affix to that

more problems

[ashen parcel]

i see i think more problem for new players is still in this instance less problems for the greater whole

The day when Teddy, Vera and nanami are seen as low dmg all at once i think i migh retire

idk

[peak halo]

But why its a problem
Its supposed to happen
Older units weakening patch to patch

Teddy vera nanaknight, no expection

[solemn berry]

Nanaknight is already not as broken as she once was

She's probably like 70% of the hype she once was at

[peak halo]

Yeah even i said that time
"Nanami still just a units
She now op in 5 teams, but we later she gets powercrept/ became avg btw actual meta units"
And see now liv just out dmg her 2 or 3 times

In sss terms

[carmine reef]

nanami running class while wanshi still running ult
nanawashed

[peak halo]

[solemn berry]

Wait what

I thought wanshi had class now

[peak halo]

Class/ult
Depend on week

But ppc now surly if not main dps role

[icy otter]

e

[warped axle]

anyone knows what's wrong with this, I can't get past it

[solemn berry]

It's weird

[golden merlin]

You’re off by a bit

Frequency and amplitude is right
Phase shift if slightly off

I haven’t play the event but thats all i can see wrong

[steady otter]

com sabotage event

[clever birch]

Game files or Device problem

[carmine roost]

It's class for ss

Probably class for sss Wanshi AND sss teddy too

Tho, the difference is kinda subtle

You probably find yourself ult does better

~~cuz you don't know there's a new breakpoint with class reso ~~

[golden merlin]

Just have sss+ wanshi, problem solved

[plain oyster]

k whel

[peak halo]

K whel

[golden merlin]

Im only at sss6 Wanshi
Not sss+ yet

[shy jackal]

k whel

[median shell]

[solemn berry]

Annonne just comes here posts an emoji and dips

[carmine reef]

[solemn berry]

Say something

[rose yew]

[solemn berry]

Oh for goodness sake

[sonic tide]

[solemn berry]

Why

I'm lonely pls talk

[carmine roost]

Talk more in monday

Ded week until update

.

[wanton hatch]

[solemn berry]

Isn't the ubdate

Wait

The update is on tuesday?

[carmine roost]

Idk

I can't read days

[solemn berry]

Should be

[buoyant hornet]

Y'all running class on her now??

[buoyant hornet]

yes

[solemn berry]

Ok thanks uncy

[indigo dirge]

Is SSS Wata better for the dark team than SS3 Ish?

[keen plume]

I think you're confusing SSS wata in nihil team

well it dosen't matter as darksetta is coming

[indigo dirge]

Aha! I am! For nihil is he better.

[indigo dirge]

And yea the horse couldn't come soon enough

[keen plume]

yeah cause in nihil luna makes his shred universal

and darkflow shred in dark team won't do anything

[carmine roost]

Real and true

[indigo dirge]

Okay maybe I'll switch him in and do another WZ run to see the difference. Since Luna does her magic, Lilith at SSS would still be a better amp than SS3 Ish right? Then run Wata as tank?

[keen plume]

in nihil?

[golden nacelle]

[peak halo]

Lilith no if nihil
Cuz ish is dps in nihil
In dark wata sss only good cuz 3s swapcd and can put on him dv bath

[keen plume]

SSS wata in nihil and ampmael

[peak halo]

Dark team use wata as copie tank, but next patch rosetta finally come

[true pivot]

so real

[golden merlin]

[nova forum]

chat how long would it take to get all the limited rewards from desperado

[golden nacelle]

[hasty badge]

is that viable w SS rosetta vs. SSS wata?

[peak halo]

That will be tested in live server

[hasty badge]

aight gotta wait then

[deep halo]

y'all who's a top tier dps I can get for beginners

[golden nacelle]

crims...

[carmine roost]

Rosetta is obviously better

[solemn berry]

Teddy Spectre

[carmine roost]

SSS wata as dark tank is only cope alternative

Built Parhelion or Scire is still a better dark tank than SSS wata

[solemn berry]

SSS wata is almost as cope as it gets

[solemn berry]

Mfw scire is s05*

I just use my ishy

[carmine roost]

Ngl

[deep halo]

isn't she in banner rn, who are her teammate

[solemn berry]

Yes but u don't pull

She's free

[deep halo]

how

[solemn berry]

Her teammates are wanshi lucid dreamer

Who is also free

[carmine roost]

My ss0 5* Daren is blessed by Luna free selector and I just voucher her to ss3 r1

[solemn berry]

I forgot how but it's on the tab below your weeklies iirc

Or the one below that

You do those missions you get currency

[deep halo]

It's like an event?

[solemn berry]

You go to shop and exchange it for her shards

Yeah

Permanent event

[deep halo]

oh bet

[solemn berry]

Next patch is rosetta

Great dark dps

I think

Is she dps?

Or did they nerf her to the ground

[deep halo]

the shards in the shop change every patch or smth?

[solemn berry]

Which shop

[deep halo]

u said a shop

[solemn berry]

No

That shop is specifically for her

[deep halo]

ohh

[solemn berry]

Then there's Lilith Daemonissa

[sonic tide]

Tht <40m wz score he have all 333 or smth? Dnt rlly follow the guy

[solemn berry]

She's a dark amplifier

Great dark subdps

[deep halo]

is vera or bianca a good unit

[solemn berry]

Or maindps if they fcked over rosetta

[deep halo]

they look cool

[solemn berry]

Both are good

Vera will give you better value for now

[carmine roost]

I'm pretty sure he has stacked acc

[solemn berry]

Since dark is relatively available for newbies

But fire is majorly locked off

[sonic tide]

[deep halo]

but isnt vera a support or smth

[solemn berry]

Yeah

[deep halo]

who's her dps

[solemn berry]

Vera

Vera is the dps

[deep halo]

Ou

[solemn berry]

Amplifiers or tanks or attackers

It doesn't matter

None of the units I even mentioned to you are attackers

Rosetta is a tank

[deep halo]

lol ok

[solemn berry]

Teddy is an amplifier

Lilith is an amplifier

[sonic tide]

Welp if ur bonca ss0 and lilith sss prob u going to use Lilith rosetta 1 amp in wz, rosetta have GA reso which tht attacker reso kuro smoking zaza

[solemn berry]

The main influence for how much damage a unit does is their release date

[deep halo]

I see

[solemn berry]

But attackers still generally do more damage

[deep halo]

so this game has lots of powercreep?

[solemn berry]

Uhh yes

A unit typically only lasts 2-3 years

[carmine roost]

Oh yeh

[deep halo]

oh that ain't bad

[carmine roost]

SSS everyone with S+ wanshi, Lilith, wata

He's na

[solemn berry]

Qu and Wanshi and Watanabe and Lucia are a great example

[deep halo]

is Lucia fire a good teammate for vera, she's in that special banner right

[sonic tide]

[carmine roost]

He's at sss7 loona rn

[solemn berry]

Uhhh sure but she's not a priority

Lucia is pretty weak compared to Vera

But that's not Lucia's fault

Vera is unintentionally strong

Also

PS

Never listen to ingame recommendations

[deep halo]

ok I'll get vera for the 40 pull banner and grind the teddy girl

[solemn berry]

Yeah they are once in a blue moon correct about their recommendation ms

But otherwise no

Just ask here

[deep halo]

alright

[solemn berry]

While whoever is more recent generally does more damage

Attackers will usually still be superior in pure dps

[deep halo]

who's the most recent then

[solemn berry]

Teddy

Spectre

An example again is qu and wanshi

[sonic tide]

[solemn berry]

Wanshi releases 4 patches after Qu but deals less damage (though not like he's barely catching up)

Now is that influenced because he's a male and free? Most definitely

[plain oyster]

[solemn berry]

Here's my standard guide to how long a unit will last in meta

[deep halo]

what teams would you say I should prioritize

[solemn berry]

Lemme find the message

[deep halo]

for my first team

[solemn berry]

These are my criteria

Most important factor is the gender

Males get absolutely fcked in pgr

[solemn berry]

Ice

Because it's free

Then dark next patch

[deep halo]

who are the ice units again

[solemn berry]

Teddy Wanshi

And Ayla is free too

Since Teddy does so much damage that she kicks out the attacker qu

You can actually slot in another amplifier instead

Ayla is free

But so is Lilith

[deep halo]

do I do the story for the other two

[solemn berry]

Lilith is better

[solemn berry]

If you want to

[wanton hatch]

wouldn't bother with Ayla

[warped axle]

how do I fix

[solemn berry]

Me neither

But she's there

[deep halo]

how do I get lilith and wanshi then

[solemn berry]

Lilith is free from an event

[wanton hatch]

Lilith has her own event thing
Wanshi from dorm

[solemn berry]

I don't remember which one you'll have to try and find it

Wanshi is free from the dorm

Wait let me find it myself

[deep halo]

oh is Lilith the insatiable event thing

[plain oyster]

Its a bug, there's a lot who experienced it. Just wait for fix

[solemn berry]

Uhh maybe

Haven't checked that event since 1982

[warped axle]

alr

[deep halo]

lol

[warped axle]

thankfully there's still a lot of days left

[deep halo]

I guess vera will have to wait until ice and dark

once I get some meta teams I can chase who I want

[deep halo]

did u find it yet

[solemn berry]

It's the insatiable thingimajig

[deep halo]

oh aight

what abt the other guy

oh you already said dorm nvm

aight thanks I'ma grind those three

[shy shard]

who should i promote first to sss? Luna ob or Ishmael?

[slender scarab]

What rank are your Luna and Ishmael atm

[shy shard]

they are both 1 dupe left to sss i was thinking to get ish copy during free s rank selector next patch , and for luna i ran out of voucher for her shards

[slender scarab]

Get Ishmael with the selector

Luna can be sss with vouchers eventually

[shy shard]

is sss ish stronger than sss luna?

[noble zinc]

near same feels tho direct comparison not done luna got offield hits+qte nuke too

Big

Give confirmation
@spiral merlin

[sonic tide]

After leap definitely luna a bit stronger than ish

+Off field hits and qte nuke

[hot berry]

should i still pull Nanami star rail?

[gusty blade]

who should I prioritize on voucher shop? And also is hanying still worth picking up?

[hot berry]

as far as I understand, just pull the latest unit there is, as they will be least outdated and powercrept

[gusty blade]

is luna still worth prioritizing on voucher

[hot berry]

the oblivion one - pretty much
she's a good support, i think. boosts damage and all that

[plain oyster]

Where tho? Also can get her in free selector next patch

[hot berry]

need 3 more pulls on that crate in thunderbolt manual

[hot berry]

who else can i get from it though?

[sonic tide]

Till ishmael

[hot berry]

im trying to build Limpidity and Ishmael. do i need starrail for them or someone else?

[sonic tide]

Yeah pretty much

[hot berry]

okay good

so i should pull her from the selector

mmmmm
wasted so much on that crate...

[sonic tide]

Welp if already wet might as well jump into the pool

And choose other in selector

[hot berry]

well
yeah
maybe

still a free S-omni

well
kinda

[sonic tide]

Since u said u already waste a lot

From thunderbolt only 3 tht worth pyro hanying and nana

[sonic tide]

If u dnt rlly care about physical scratch hanying

[sonic tide]

yeah get nana from thunderbolt then

[hot berry]

i would build phys actively if only i had vergil

[simple dew]

vergil sucks for phys unless fat whale

[hot berry]

huh

oh well

its a real shame Veronica is ass on phys too

[sonic tide]

Yeah selena better for physical unless truslash

[hot berry]

love her a lot

[hot berry]

the pianissimo one?

[simple dew]

yes

[sonic tide]

Yeah

Also rosetta TS dps next if u dnt hab bergil

[hot berry]

bergil 🤤

[sonic tide]

[simple dew]

is ss3 vergil even good

[sonic tide]

Issok

[hot berry]

heard he is cool

i mean

is his gameplay like, identical to pgr or is he trying to be dmc Vergil?

[simple dew]

identical to dmc with his kit slightly trimmed

[hot berry]

at least he has aura then

[sonic tide]

I still dk if bergil or Rosetta better for ts since v4 rosetta ts nerf

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/862262819679371304/1404868844820103229/GIF-250812_104618.gif

aura fr

[hot berry]

isnt new Rosetta dark?

or are you talking about the old one

[simple dew]

dark/trueslash

[sonic tide]

With ts affix

And she's dps for ts tank for dark

[hot berry]

whats trueslash even about

[simple dew]

basically phys on steroids

[hot berry]

i dont get these effects one bit
plasma beam, disruption, what the hah

[sonic tide]

Idk what kuro smoking so dnt ask this is the dev tht willingly to preserve daren tht long but powercrept every attacker like milk expiration time

[slender scarab]

It's physical cbt edition

[hot berry]

is wuva also like this?

[sonic tide]

Also hanying got preserve for long time for ts cuz rosetta

[hot berry]

i hate how kuro just releases a new unit that guts every other unit before it

[sonic tide]

Welp for wuwak i dnt rlly care cuz no compe mode just pull who u like

[hot berry]

its just a matter of time until my maxed out Limpidity becomes Alpha

like
Imagine

[simple dew]

yea like 1.5 year

attacker fraud class either way

[hot berry]

i maxed out Alpha and on the next day Limpidity came out and every was already talking how Starrail dealt more damage than Alpha singlehandedly

[slender scarab]

Imma be real I don't personally want to play the same unit for 2 years anyway

[simple dew]

noone wants

[hot berry]

yeah i mean
gacha always comes down to this when you finish the story

played blue archive before
i adored the game with all my heart, and i still do, but when i finished the main story i instantly lost all my passion and motivation to log on every day

[simple dew]

gacha would be useless if meta doesnt change at all

[hot berry]

yeah
true

i love how kuro made pgr's gacha system
you can get units guaranteed even if you dont spam the story mode or grind like a madman

even nanami storm can solo you the story mode if you are so unlucky

[simple dew]

trials

[hot berry]

so that makes gacha in pgr kinda like fanservice and stuff for hardcore fans to grind

[blazing sorrel]

At this point isn't char gacha in PGR just a direct purchace with a chance for a cashback?

[keen sable]

well wuwa kinda works

i barely pull and still clear everything

[hot berry]

heard that wuva's gacha is a 1;1 to genshin's
is it really that bad?

[keen sable]

endfield is worse

[fluid gulch]

There's genshin and wuwa

[simple dew]

afaik the system is mostly the same but more generous

[fluid gulch]

And endfield at the bottom of the pit

[blazing sorrel]

I barely pull and can't clear for sht because I can't be bothered with the gear grindfest.
If it'd be directly obtainable - things would've been different

[simple dew]

120 or bust

get lucky = lose sig

[fluid gulch]

want to get sig? pull more

[blazing sorrel]

It is 1:1 hence it's bad by default

[fluid gulch]

uh oh, got lucky again lost pity

[sonic tide]

Yeah since most of the currency for pulling weap from pulling characters iirc but welp idnt play so i dnt care bout the game

[simple dew]

eosfield

[blazing sorrel]

Except for minor details

[simple dew]

play satisfactory instead

[fluid gulch]

There's barely redeeming qualities

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[hot berry]

sad
is gacha really major there? i want to get into wuva but i really dont want to grind my ass off on 3 gachas

[keen sable]

genshin gear grinding is worse or not lol

[fluid gulch]

50/50, 120 pulls for pity

[keen sable]

i think wuwa gearing isnt hard at all with the now added echo rifts to just get the sets for new unit that u do daily

[hot berry]

harshhh

[keen sable]

does not even consum stamina

[blazing sorrel]

You will be grinding your ass off with RNG gear. WuWa is a copy of Genshin in more ways than just the gacha rules.

[hot berry]

NO PLEASE NOT GEAR

[blazing sorrel]

The only good part is a better combat system really

[hot berry]

😭

[hot berry]

is lore good at least??

[simple dew]

can you do this in eosfield

[slender scarab]

Grinding in wuwa is not even worth it for the 2 endgame mode you do once a month. That game is kinda dead endgame content wise

[hot berry]

okay what

[hot berry]

i only care about the chars and story there, really
saw one vid with 2 girls boxing and got real emotional somewhy

[blazing sorrel]

dillongoo mentioned

the goat

[fluid gulch]

satisfactory

[blazing sorrel]

he's rhe reason I returned to PGR after initially dropping it

[hot berry]

hes cool i like him

or them

is the channel like

a project or a single guy doing allat?

[blazing sorrel]

There's a small team iirc

Same for No_Tables

[slender scarab]

If you just play for story wuwa is worth playing

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kilgore-trout-vonnegut-pgr-gif-4279542929829929692

[hot berry]

i also like Zani i play for Zani is she good

[keen sable]

u need phoebe for her

otherwise u gonna be cooked

[fluid gulch]

sig too iirc

[nova marten]

Only play WuWa for story?

[blazing sorrel]

I tried to play the story, and something good started only at like Carlotta, and then with Cartethiya

[nova marten]

[keen sable]

u wont like endfield then

that game story is just banana glazing

[blazing sorrel]

1.0 stuff was really bad

[keen sable]

1.0 was better then endfield

[nova marten]

1.0 of all game always bad

[hot berry]

whats that