📨・meta-help

[wanton hatch]

shred gone

[ashen parcel]

huh?

I'm confused

[exotic fable]

Horse only has dark shred

[plain oyster]

She's attacker in slash

[noble zinc]

Ask me everything in my head

[exotic fable]

No physical shred, no us shred

[ashen parcel]

[noble zinc]

23.4

[stiff mist]

just made my Limpidity S+, I see a lot of white orbs, what boss & difficulty do y'all test y'all teams on?

[plain oyster]

She's basically breaker(tank)/attacker in same time

[ashen parcel]

Ultima Slash is such a useless F£"£ing Affix

[wanton hatch]

by S+ you mean ss or sss+?

[stiff mist]

it's basically a worse dot version of Darkflow iirc

[stiff mist]

the worse one

so ss

[ashen parcel]

3 Ultima attackers no tank no amps

[wanton hatch]

[ashen parcel]

Kuro usin 100% IQ atm

[plain oyster]

[wanton hatch]

teams testing? usually will be on trial zone or war zone

[stiff mist]

oh yeah

war zone exists

alright I'll try my ss liv there

[ashen parcel]

I want a new Lightning tank to surpass nanami

[wanton hatch]

idk how sigless liv performs

[exotic fable]

Nanami Leap next patch

[plain oyster]

And S...

[ashen parcel]

fr?

[plain oyster]

Oh wait

Its ss now

[exotic fable]

Dont trust this face

[ashen parcel]

lol

[wanton hatch]

[exotic fable]

[ashen parcel]

Teddy is hot

[stiff mist]

yeah I'm still as ass as ever

wave 14

cool

😭😭😭

[stiff mist]

is her sig that necessary

😭

[wanton hatch]

everyone needs it nowadays

[stiff mist]

whos the starter in the nihil team

Lilith or Ishmael

[wanton hatch]

Lilith

[nova marten]

Ah with Kamui Light Amp it'll be 27m

[stiff mist]

performed worse tbh lol

but I might be just ass

and my characters r still relatively unbuilt

[nova marten]

Nice

Lightning outdated apparently

[gray totem]

bruh

how

[spring seal]

By t4 does it mean the lowest performance?

[nova marten]

23.4m from nukelao

[gray totem]

[nova marten]

I mean, he said it's the highest

Same placement anyway shouldn't matter

[gray totem]

ddoubt kamui light amp

[nova marten]

Its for maxed invest, don't see it as reliable

[nova marten]

Just my wish so I can skip him safely

[gray totem]

[nova marten]

Whoever the Light Amp is, I will skip them as they won't bring me any value

It's all because of my very specific unbalance invest

[gray totem]

should've skipped liv

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-please-speed-i-need-this-tired-blow-gif-15401023925154467112

[nova marten]

Don't get me wrong, I hold no malice against Kamui

[solemn berry]

Sure

[nova marten]

I just need a reason to skip something

[solemn berry]

Don't worry

[noble zinc]

Ion/ice/phy/glacio/dark all outdated

[solemn berry]

I'm just

[noble zinc]

Ray score can't see

[nova marten]

[solemn berry]

I just need to have a ralk

I just wanna talk

[nova marten]

I remember 24m Gaydiance

[gray totem]

i cant see kamui not being phys or fire

[solemn berry]

Let's talk

[nova marten]

Fire Tank is also a skip for me btw

[solemn berry]

Okay yeah

I'm just gonna eat you

[gray totem]

wtf

why

[nova marten]

Phys would be a pull, no doubt

Same reason why I skipped Wata

[gray totem]

but midsia

[nova marten]

Can't say much because it's threatening my secret

[gray totem]

https://tenor.com/view/kilgore-trout-vonnegut-pgr-gif-4279542929829929692

[nova marten]

Anyway we will see

Plan can always be changed

Alpha is 100% skip though

[gray totem]

real

[solemn berry]

My man

You will be spared

[nova marten]

[simple dew]

notice how selena has her own tier

[gray totem]

fraud category

[nova marten]

Midlena is lucky her entire team is worse than her

She's spared from my slander for now

[stiff mist]

Lilith is now SS nice

whos next?

[noble zinc]

[stiff mist]

crazy tbh

will be using my free selector on vera

before veronica

[ripe stag]

Please refer to https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1466794801532899381 for Dates/Times regarding next patch

[golden nacelle]

@noble zinc riel ?

[noble zinc]

[golden nacelle]

fat

[nova marten]

https://tenor.com/view/lucia-truth-nuke-lucia-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-truth-nuke-gif-2823947219154032490

[peak halo]

Good even eu ded after that free legend retain for me until patch end

[normal sierra]

why is Arfee in hero? wutdaheck

[peak halo]

Donno

[normal sierra]

giga whels briccing my slacc bracket

[peak halo]

Who?

[normal sierra]

Arfee

bro got almost 10 months of legend badge and he had to drop to here right into my bracket just now

[noble zinc]

[simple dew]

why 2 wehl fighting

[carmine reef]

Dandy is in my bracket almost hitting 40m with 2 zones

[solemn berry]

I haven't checked leaderboards in ages

[loud geyser]

Is it worth it to get Ishmael to Ss3 with the upcoming free selector

[solemn berry]

I forgot those scores were possible

[solemn berry]

Uhhhhhhhhhnammmmmmmmdmdmmmm I would probably go for nanami ss3

[gray totem]

why are these beached whels in hero brackets

[solemn berry]

Though I'm planning to get sss nanami with the free selector and blue selector

[solemn berry]

I'm so cooked

[gray totem]

imagine being so ass that you demote from legend even tho ur whel

[solemn berry]

This guy is 16m with just the lightning zone

He hasn't done nihil

[gray totem]

my bracket has 2 fraud whels

[normal sierra]

a p*lot demoted him

[sour silo]

What

[safe delta]

guys, should i give my reso stick in one of my current sigs or just put it on ish's sig soon

[noble zinc]

Ish works fine R0 better wave for those must R1 chrs

*save

[safe delta]

like whom?

i don't think i can get rosetta at this point lmao

[noble zinc]

Qu type chrs

Can't recall now oi someone halp

[gray totem]

vera

[noble zinc]

Vera R1 he got

Already

[gray totem]

lilith

[noble zinc]

Yea

[gray totem]

nanami

[noble zinc]

Nana R0 fine too

[gray totem]

maybe with liv

solo it's a pain

[noble zinc]

He got liv too

But R1 he did

Reso waste

Luna also R1

[gray totem]

how much bc u got?

[noble zinc]

[safe delta]

like 2k

[safe delta]

wait fr

[gray totem]

have u done the roguelite game modes

[noble zinc]

Resoing attackers unless dlt must never first prio

[zenith thorn]

hi nudelao

pgr still winning

[noble zinc]

[safe delta]

not yet, my use of device is limited

[gray totem]

selena and pyroath needs r1 i guess

[zenith thorn]

sss r3 your selena always

[noble zinc]

Selena yea pyro not must

Unless ion which ded

[gray totem]

both are frauds

[zenith thorn]

no r3 no rights

no sss0 no rights

[gray totem]

bianca moment

[safe delta]

ohhh i see

[noble zinc]

R3 min rights

[gray totem]

well next patch has a lot of events so you should be able to get rosetta

[gray totem]

k whel

their skins are so bad

[noble zinc]

Always Ask known people here just to be sure resources are very scarce in this game unless whel

[gray totem]

bianca is a fraud but at least her skin looks good

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

You wait me hitting 11mil with SS0 bonca

Need to remove that fraud tag

[gray totem]

qte bot bianca

[noble zinc]

Smol things better ignore

[gray totem]

sss+ rosetta sss+ lilith ss0 bianca

[noble zinc]

[safe delta]

lastly guys, is the bp in thunderbolt worth

I'm thinking of saving for it

[noble zinc]

The one that gives hyper mats usb wpn?

For feral

[safe delta]

yeah

[noble zinc]

Worth

[safe delta]

alright, thank u

[noble zinc]

[carmine reef]

big worth

gives like 2 resos

[carmine roost]

Impossible to do

Been told too much + most of the barely care about the game or even play the game + if they are wrong they just don't care cuz they have "eos game, already kiwi" mentality

Even if bonca did good, they wouldn't care

[sonic tide]

Right nuke do it

[peak halo]

Donno
I seen tomy and archi lot of week in hero
Now them in my legend bracket

[young badge]

i forgor how to play the game

[sonic tide]

Zamn

[radiant panther]

Is this in Legend? Im in Hero, and I use Sig DV on Wata

[gray totem]

bonca meta qte bot

[open verge]

what's the difference about fred?

[median shell]

Da Vinci is op now huh

[barren plank]

Fred only works for the characters equipped with Fred

Before it could trigger when anyone trigger Matrix regardless if the character equipped with Fred as on or off field

Which is why it was so good in PPC/IB

But then they patched the part that actually made it good

[open verge]

where's statement regarding that?
i don't see it in news

[mighty tusk]

Why would they say that when it's an attempt to nerf

[sonic tide]

Like they never talk bout IB changes in Livestream

[open verge]

fk kusogame

eos soon

[noble zinc]

[safe delta]

refresh is tomorrow, who needs ss more? wanshi or watanabe

[golden merlin]

Wanshu

[stray siren]

Both, but it will depend on each character's investment, from each team

Ice only has two members, so Wanshi would be a better option

[true pivot]

kokowheeze

[reef brook]

Is any of ts still usable

[simple dew]

where

are

lilith and teddy sigs

[reef brook]

Ion think I have them

[simple dew]

[reef brook]

😭 Cooked?

[simple dew]

do you know what that would be

[reef brook]

Id assume signature weapon right? Haven't played in a year so just assumptions

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311311759629353020/1438047924679479468/cat-brick.gif

[simple dew]

did you finish the whole lilith banner

[wanton hatch]

[reef brook]

Yea

[simple dew]

in events on the bottom

[reef brook]

Wait

Lemme just check

[simple dew]

instatiable research ir smth

[reef brook]

Sorry was doing something

Ts right

[wanton hatch]

[noble zinc]

[ashen parcel]

What day is rosetta?

[barren plank]

Check #1220163911723253760

[peak halo]

That day when i not work finally

[ashen parcel]

ARE WE SURE

We can't put rosetta

and vergil in the same team?

[carmine reef]

yes we are sure

[peak halo]

Rosetta act as atker in ts which i know

[carmine reef]

rose isn't an enabler

you still need hanying for stack gen and you still need vero/alisa for crit buff

only the 1 slot is negotiable for the dealer

[peak halo]

Vergirl out

[wanton hatch]

[peak halo]

Speficaly me

[ashen parcel]

Ok new quetion

Does hypertuning supports make buffs better?

[visual topaz]

No

Leveling skills increases subsequent buffs named in skills text

Hypertuning only increases memory Stat

[ashen parcel]

Ok ty just had to make sure

[sick flower]

so we dont have to hypertune 4 dv 4 guin atk/class users?

[gray totem]

no

[sick flower]

oh my god

WHY HAVENT YOU ALL TOLD ME

[visual topaz]

It's kinda obvious

[sick flower]

do i need to hypertune 4 dv 4 sig?

[visual topaz]

Sig?

[sick flower]

sig memory

[gray totem]

is this for wata

[sick flower]

like epitaph

and maybe wanshi soon

[gray totem]

wata yes

[visual topaz]

Das fine

[gray totem]

he actually does dmg

[visual topaz]

But that's the moment memory placement matters to save ressources

[sick flower]

in what teams is geiravor a support

[visual topaz]

Void

Tho mine has 12 HT

[sick flower]

ignition ice and nihil only right?

[visual topaz]

Tf ice

[sick flower]

why not ice

[visual topaz]

Don't ppl use lilith

[sick flower]

arent their buffs same

[visual topaz]

Geiravor isn't f2p sss0 accessible

Lilith is

[sick flower]

i know but

dont they have the same buffs

[visual topaz]

Otherwise you could slap any 3s amp when they beat your on element amp

No they don't

[sick flower]

lilith buffs better than vera buffs??? wtf

[visual topaz]

Older amps don't have qte refresh

New amps do buff effects depending of their skill texts

[sick flower]

vera is newer than lilith

[gray totem]

at same invest they are the same

[sick flower]

thank you door

does vera see field time in ignition?

[visual topaz]

Depends of the invest but idts

[gray totem]

depends on invest and waves sometimes yes sometimes no

[sick flower]

okay and 1 more question

[gray totem]

sometimes it's better to force a 3rd ult 1 from vero

[sick flower]

doesnt hypertune increase the class skill buff and the +atk buff why are these not important for supports

[visual topaz]

Hypertune increase memory Stat

Not skill

[sick flower]

wha

[visual topaz]

But they need resonances slot

[sick flower]

@jolly patrol get a life mf

[sick flower]

so when i hypertune sig move it doesnt buff sig move stat further

[jolly patrol]

Im reading to learn

[visual topaz]

No

Only the Stat of your mem

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

god

i wasted a TON of hypertunes

[visual topaz]

You'd better read in game desc

[gray totem]

laovisha

[sick flower]

reading is for the nerds

[wanton hatch]

ah

[gray totem]

u get moments like this then #📨・meta-help message

[visual topaz]

Nobody is gonna spoonfeed you answer in the near future tho

[visual yacht]

Hiiii, I would like some help. I was trying to log in to my og account again, but every time I log in, it creates a new game (as if it were the first time I logged in). My question is whether it is possible that my account was deleted because I hadn't used it for a long time (I had also uninstalled the game).

[jolly patrol]

Noo dont quit

[sick flower]

tech support

[visual yacht]

Oh tyy

[jolly patrol]

Check server check email

[visual topaz]

Try different region login or use the login method you have bound your account to.

[gray totem]

α would be considered lao by then kekw

[sick flower]

i have sub dps support build done for vera at least, in case pyroath gets a crazy leap and kamui is fire breaker my build is complete

[visual yacht]

that's what I did 😭

I'm trying to change regions

[jolly patrol]

Wanna migrate accts? Ask Support if that's possible

[visual yacht]

Thanks, but I'm not sure how this server works (I've been playing pgr since 2022) but it's my first time joining this server

[ashen parcel]

Is rosetta gonna be sig or class skill?

[visual yacht]

I solved it, I had to change region, thanks for the help!

[normal sierra]

Tomy hates playing in legend, he does absolute minimum score there only to make sure he doesn't promote for a good few weeks
so you don't have to worry about him, he's harmless in legend

[peak halo]

i see mak sense

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah legend, but I only tested that combination of mems and nothing else yet

[fluid gulch]

@noble zinc Couldn't beat wantap, even with ref

These fcking unbeatable wantaps

[ripe stag]

Somehow

Onetaps are always the "best",

Like how is it possible

[fluid gulch]

You tell me

Cuz I got no fcking clue

[ripe stag]

That the run you consider "eh just the first tap" ends up being the best run

[fluid gulch]

I could've beaten it

By 100k or so

cuz 1w in hero is like 200-250k

[ripe stag]

I'm actually excited to NOT play dark Bianca ever again

[fluid gulch]

I didn't even learn her

Literally

Got her

And never bothered to learn her rot

[ripe stag]

Raydiance Bianca feels so good

Then there's Dark

[fluid gulch]

Cuz wet noodle dmg

Better wait for horse

Might even scrap her sig

[ripe stag]

Horse actually has damage if they keep beta

Hopefully they buff it a bit

[fluid gulch]

Going for ss3 anyway

[ripe stag]

But if they keep beta stats
Still better than SS0 Bianca

[gray totem]

if it werent for raydiance being a thing i would scrap her sig

[ripe stag]

Oh SS3 has busted shi* in kit

[fluid gulch]

Me have 333 plasma so not my problem

[ripe stag]

I like how no one other than whales like dark Bianca

[fluid gulch]

Liv is actually kind of similar

Tho not to same extent

[ripe stag]

Funny how Raydiance at same invest is better than Plasma

[fluid gulch]

SS0 not that weak

[ripe stag]

Liv is not wet noodles

Her damage actually hurts

[fluid gulch]

duh

[ripe stag]

SS3 though

SS3 Liv haver here

[fluid gulch]

But me SS0 bonca

[ripe stag]

Her QTE is SSS0 CW damage

[fluid gulch]

so better plasma for me

[ripe stag]

SS3 Bianca might be better

[fluid gulch]

Not worth

[ripe stag]

Than SSS0 Lucia

Imma sleep now bye

[stray siren]

Same

Lamia >>>

[fluid gulch]

Well

[gray totem]

well

[fluid gulch]

Atleast with Lamia I actually used her

[gray totem]

https://tenor.com/view/vaughnpena-gif-27076347

[mossy cliff]

should i pick pyroath in next patch’s free selector? i already have the rest of the character all at SS (nanami at SS3). i have SS3 vera and has been using her mostly solo fire wz. is pyroath worth swapping in if i only have her at SS R0?

[buoyant hornet]

That's why I made it a habit to record my onetaps

Usually I can eventually get the same or better score but sometimes without a recording I have no reference for the lucky breakpoits I had on onetap

[buoyant hornet]

Pyroath atm really lacks longevity

[fluid gulch]

SS0 is kinda trash atp

SS3 or no rights

[buoyant hornet]

You can swap her at ss0 r0 but if kamui ends up being a fire unit, ss0 Pyro will most likely become useless

[gray totem]

wait a minute

[buoyant hornet]

She's already completely booted in PPC

[gray totem]

i just realised something

[buoyant hornet]

In favor of vera

[mossy cliff]

so i shouldnt pick pyroath? cuz i got her sig from the free ticket so

[gray totem]

@buoyant hornet does 1 ult lucia even need dlt

[buoyant hornet]

Do you have ss3 ishmael?

[mossy cliff]

my ishmael is at SS

[buoyant hornet]

Not really but sometimes she needs to save sword gauge to cut down on orb usage

Before wata leap she used to do swordwaves > mash eclipse so she naturally saved sword gauge, didn't need dlt

[simple dew]

does ss3 limp swap with nana

[buoyant hornet]

ss3 liv outdps sss nana

[simple dew]

solo limp it is then

[buoyant hornet]

I think you should wait until we see the next beta, if it's gonna add a character leap then selector priorities might change

[buoyant hornet]

Why what's your nanami invest

[simple dew]

ss

[buoyant hornet]

Swap is still worth it

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

Nana's field time does a lot more dps thanks to liv's qte

And the 3ult nana strat allows 3 qte refreshes

[mossy cliff]

oh okay ty for ur help

[buoyant hornet]

So that's 6 qte nukes per swap

[simple dew]

wont 3 ult nana eat limps time

[buoyant hornet]

Feel free to ping me if you have any questions

[buoyant hornet]

Barely yeah

[simple dew]

2 full limp?

[gray totem]

are u sure about that? penguin told me solo sss nanami got 13m this week while the highest i've seen from ss3 liv was 9.5m by yomm this week, he got ss3 nanami tho

[buoyant hornet]

I've never in my life seen sss nanami solo get even near that much score are you sure?

[gray totem]

i was shocked as well

[sick flower]

hi

[gray totem]

he said he saw it

[sick flower]

im new

[buoyant hornet]

3ult, either short>long>short or long>short>short depending on what's needed

[sick flower]

is lucia dawn worth using?

[gray totem]

yes

[buoyant hornet]

short>long>short tends to be better in general though

[simple dew]

sss nana 13m when 444 cw+nans lightning scored that

[sick flower]

can i use her together with nanami star rail?

[simple dew]

dlt?

[buoyant hornet]

this has to be misinfo maybe he misunderstood something lol

Full SSS team with liv barely gets 13-15m on duos

There's absolutely zero way solo nana can do that

[buoyant hornet]

nope

[simple dew]

who rot first

[gray totem]

im gonna ask him for more details later

[buoyant hornet]

Nanami insta-slam rot, swap liv, save ishmael's qte if it activates before liv swaps out, nanami next swap 3ping x2 > yellow > ult (double qte in whatever sequence needed) > yellow (gauge already full so no pings needed) > full basic into slam string > 3ping x2 > yellow > basic x3 > slam > stall slightly until qtes are up > ult

Keep in mind with ss3 liv after a long rot, she only needs one 3ping to do lightning strike hold dodge

So don't overping after long rot

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

One of the best lightning players in the world got 16m with sss0 lightning lol

There's absolutely negative odds that solo sss0 nanami gets 13m

[simple dew]

can sss r3 lilith 600k ephialtes

[gray totem]

ye

[buoyant hornet]

what team

If solo then no

[sick flower]

voucher reset when

[simple dew]

sss wanshi + luna

[buoyant hornet]

I'm not sure about this

[gray totem]

it should be doable

[simple dew]

i need fraudmael for cradle

[buoyant hornet]

@barren plank can sss r3 lilith 600k lloyd with wanshi luna?

[gray totem]

worse case swap to wanshi

[buoyant hornet]

Actually the runs I saw were with wata luna and luna is the one who gets swapped to for qte nuke

Even though it's off ele ig the runs need it

[barren plank]

2.133 could 617K

[buoyant hornet]

But ofc wata is busy this week

[barren plank]

Idk ab 333 never tested it myself

[buoyant hornet]

does it work with wanshi or does tank class get bricked

[simple dew]

my luna ss0

[buoyant hornet]

lol ripge

[barren plank]

Um I don't think it should be a problem here

[buoyant hornet]

No rosetta no 9ap ishmael

[barren plank]

LD field being sucky is a WZ problem

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

Do you have bianca

[barren plank]

But then again me stupid

Who knows

[simple dew]

no dark tank

[buoyant hornet]

I meant tank class uptime, wata's is infinite because qte field but wanshi not

[buoyant hornet]

no ishmael?

[simple dew]

booked for cradle

[buoyant hornet]

Not even r0 scire?

[barren plank]

I don't think it should really be an issue here

[buoyant hornet]

lol cooked I fear

Ishmael would be needed for bianca runs

[barren plank]

The clear is not that long

[buoyant hornet]

do you still have the videos of the runs btw

[buoyant hornet]

I was curious if they'd work for me

[barren plank]

I have knight and chaos but those are botched runs

[buoyant hornet]

[barren plank]

The ones I sent u

[simple dew]

rosetta save my dark

[buoyant hornet]

They trolled us by making sure the week r esets before rosetta

[simple dew]

sss xxi will work right

[sick flower]

bricked delete account restart pgr

[buoyant hornet]

wrong reply

[barren plank]

2.133 Luna Wata Lilith was 11/14/18

[buoyant hornet]

nope

[buoyant hornet]

lilith needs r3?

[barren plank]

Yes

Well

Actually idk

R3 is preferrable

[buoyant hornet]

lol I'll stick with my bonka runs then

[simple dew]

im just gonna move fraudmael to ephialtes

[buoyant hornet]

One last hurrah for crepuscule in ppc

And potentially ever

[barren plank]

3S Luna can probably score faster on chaos and hell

[sick flower]

are gen 1 A rank tanks able to deal better damage than gen 1 A rank attackers?

[simple dew]

wait my feral is sigless

[sick flower]

werent tanks way worse than attackers back then

[simple dew]

pak this ppc

[sick flower]

for dps

[simple dew]

made against me

[sick flower]

just use lux lmfao

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

Not really, maybe XXI can somewhat keep up with astral but I think he was still stronger

The funny thing about Astral is that he was so strong because he was intended to be S rank

Then the players flamed kuro for too many S ranks in a short span, then made him A rank

And didn't fully nerf his kit

[sick flower]

maybe if astral doesnt have leap

but no i dont think she can catch up to leaped astral

[buoyant hornet]

I forgot he even had leap

[simple dew]

should i brick ephialtes or cradle

[buoyant hornet]

interesting

[sick flower]

astral and rozen have leap meanwhile they left xxi homeless 😭🙏

i mean

xxi is a gen 1 A rank that has the "special" feeling new A ranks give

[simple dew]

they gave us the gift that was karenina sc*re

[sick flower]

like

you know what im talking about? "new" A ranks (even if released years ago) feel different than the early game A ranks

early game A ranks feel somewhat dull

they are numb they dont feel alive

maybe its about the excessive amount of animation they have

[barren plank]

11/13/16 might be possible w SSS Luna but that just a guess

[simple dew]

,

[sick flower]

did this cause laurel to be weaker than intended

[barren plank]

Cradle

Wait why

Why brick

[buoyant hornet]

their luna is ss0 lol cooked

[sick flower]

like astral is already too strong lets not make laurel way above

[simple dew]

either fraudmael on cradle or llyod

[buoyant hornet]

no laurel was still night and day difference in damage from astral

They're not even comparable

[barren plank]

Why

Bianca kill?

[sick flower]

is laurel comparable to crocotta

[buoyant hornet]

sigless feral is bricking your choice I fear

[simple dew]

offele amp

[buoyant hornet]

Camu is weak as hell but he might be stronger than astral idk what invest would be needed to make him worth

Back in the day uniframes were virtually unusable in meta below sss

Because of uniframe dmg penalty

[buoyant hornet]

yeah

[simple dew]

can i use sss+ teddy

[barren plank]

Chaos kill is gonna have to be 15s, but knight and hell should be the same tbh

[sick flower]

arent uniframes something like A+ rank? he would be better than astral

i mean

not in those times ofc i mean now, without the uniframe omniframe penalty

[buoyant hornet]

Isn't half the point of using luna to squeeze out more dmg from qtes?

[simple dew]

she has sig so should beat up llyod

[buoyant hornet]

Otherwise I don't see why they'd even swap her in

[barren plank]

Yes cause it's quick

But keep in mind

11/14/18 is with SS3 Luna

Not SSS

[buoyant hornet]

no clue no one would have reason to test and compare atp lol

[barren plank]

SS0 to SS3 is not that much of a difference

[buoyant hornet]

Especially with new A ranks already outdps'ing gen 1 units

Teddy decryptor at sss-s+ outdamages s-ss laurel lol

[buoyant hornet]

ye but the qte dmg is still the centerpoint no?

It's not much but it does add up

[barren plank]

The QTE damage from leap is given at SS0 and SSS

[sick flower]

lore wise alpha would easily do things to discord beyond her imagination but gen difference makes her weaker 💔

[simple dew]

teddy a rank with sig or s0 5* feral gor

[buoyant hornet]

It's ss3 like all other attackers pookie

ss0 is off field ticks

And even that only procs if you double rot

[barren plank]

Idr sht anymore what does her leap say

[sick flower]

discord would sht her pants just by seeing alpha bruh 🥀

[ashen parcel]

B-b-b-b-What do i do with my SSS+ Bianca I'm so bricked

[buoyant hornet]

lmfao yeah

[barren plank]

I thought she got QTE damage at SS

[simple dew]

ss no right

[barren plank]

And SSS increase the EDB by 100%

[buoyant hornet]

Same as every other attacker, ss0 dmg ticks ss3 qte nuke sss 100% edb on off-field

[slender scarab]

who would win: literal demigod chosen by the will of punishing or one hacker girl

[barren plank]

Kms

[buoyant hornet]

That would've been convenient I wish

[ashen parcel]

Alpha bullied Lilith but CWeave is obselete where as lilith is still usefull

[sick flower]

dj girl

[buoyant hornet]

Please alpha have qte nuke at ss0 don't piss me off

[barren plank]

This is why I resigned helper role

[buoyant hornet]

She's gonna end up getting booted after a new ice tank

[barren plank]

Actually unironically kms

[buoyant hornet]

It's gonna be crepuscule all over again

[simple dew]

will my teddy 580k ephialtes

[sick flower]

because its a video game where units get weaker as they get old

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

It's actually a common reading mistake with luna's leap for some reason, multiple other people though she had nuke at ss0

[sick flower]

a character being meta doesnt make them a good character

[buoyant hornet]

Idk why lol

[sick flower]

a character dropping from meta doesnt make them a bad character

[ashen parcel]

Honestly they should revive old frames come on some of these frames are cool and have like really good skins compared to newer ones

[sick flower]

would you say scar is worse than m4?

all video games show scar as worse than m4

its the opposite irl

or famas

[ashen parcel]

Oh i know about that

[sick flower]

all video games have the same logic

[barren plank]

That what the purpose of leaps was initially

[sick flower]

famas is budget m4

famas BULLIES m4

[barren plank]

Until they started to give them to meta characters

[buoyant hornet]

10+10+10 on sigless feral, 20+10+8+harmo on spectre

unironically off ele amp adds up to more here

[ashen parcel]

it would be cool if old frmaes like alpha you could swap their class to make them more usefull

[simple dew]

what

[sick flower]

i hate the looks of some old frames tho

i HATE tenebrion and ember

[buoyant hornet]

Tbf you COULD say wata and luna leaps were reviving frames that were on the brink of demise

[ashen parcel]

Some look bad but like lucia has awesome skins, Bianca frames have awesome skins stigmata specifically

Lee

[buoyant hornet]

adding up their buffs

[ashen parcel]

Etc

[sick flower]

stigmata is not that old

[barren plank]

You could say that about near all the meta units that got leaped

[sick flower]

im talking gen 1 old

[simple dew]

i already used s rank teddy on shorthalt

[buoyant hornet]

you meant decryptor 💀

[buoyant hornet]

what even

LMAO

[ashen parcel]

Ice lucia has cool skins

[simple dew]

vera wata ted

stop bully this is my copium

[sick flower]

@buoyant hornet how good of a performance does decryptor give on todays nihil warzone

[simple dew]

0 cause shes dark

[buoyant hornet]

Cw leap did temporarily save her, balter leap was basically obsolete outside of pretending to give her longevity via truetrash

[sick flower]

HOW DARE YOU FORGET PLUMES NAME

[ashen parcel]

XD

Hanying needs to be retired she has no aura i want a new phys tank

[sick flower]

she is 10% nihil and her affix is disruption, can she break the shield or nah

[buoyant hornet]

No one would even try to use her tbh so idk
Even my smurf accounts quickly moved on to used the free amps after I got them

Kaleido lilith teddy

[simple dew]

she deals no nihil dmg

[carmine roost]

Can

[ashen parcel]

Remember Old Teddy was Nihil and Dark

[carmine roost]

[barren plank]

Can but it's really sad

[ashen parcel]

XD

[simple dew]

everyone can break shields

[buoyant hornet]

She just has a slight buff to shield breakage but it adds up to less than amp buffs

[sick flower]

her affix is disruption and she has to be able to break the shield

[carmine roost]

But you're gonna sit there for several hours attempting

[simple dew]

everyone can break shields

[buoyant hornet]

even gen 1 base s amps would be better

[sick flower]

so whats the purpose of disruption

[buoyant hornet]

She wouldn't even swap in lmfao

[sick flower]

there is no gen 1 amp

[ashen parcel]

Sophia Frame when? we dont have enough gun girls in the game

[simple dew]

breaking shields better

[buoyant hornet]

She was basically a glorified teaser for the concept of affixes

[sick flower]

promoted to gen 2

[buoyant hornet]

I meant first gen amps not actual gen 1 lol

[sick flower]

idk disruption does a terrible job at showcasing the affix concept

[simple dew]

@buoyant hornet so do i use teddy or feral on cradle

[buoyant hornet]

Disruption used to be nothing but an excuse to make luna important for void rather than just using full off ele teams, now it became nothing but a hinderance for void team

[barren plank]

Affixes were invented as an excuse so that people couldn't say disruption wasnt a garbage gatekeeping effect from preventing other characters to be used in nihil content

[sick flower]

guys do you think we would ever see a disruption rework? like instead of making another affix would they rework disruption instead? @barren plank @buoyant hornet @simple dew

[simple dew]

no

[ashen parcel]

I'm probably gonna get rosetta to SSS+ On day one I'm so done with this current patch i want content impatient as f£("

[barren plank]

Highly doubt

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao even my zaza cooking ass can't tell you how to make this work

[buoyant hornet]

It'll need to happen eventually I think

But how soon? no clue

[ashen parcel]

PLEASE

WE NEED NEW LIGHTNING AMP

[buoyant hornet]

Disruption has outlived its purpose

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

disruption is in a bad state even business wise

[simple dew]

this ppc

[ashen parcel]

Other than feral we have a lightning amp at all?

[simple dew]

pmo

[sick flower]

they cant milk disruption for money

[simple dew]

no

[ashen parcel]

life can be cruel

[buoyant hornet]

Like I said it only existed because:

• Luna was the only unit of her element
• the workaround was allowing her to team up with off-ele amps and tanks, while having a much less punishing off-ele penalty on void zones

The shields were needed to make sure than people can't just off ele the whole zone without luna

[sick flower]

they could turn disruption into a darkflow reskin and no one would complain, everyone would pay nihil units for disruption as well

they just miss out on money

[buoyant hornet]

Once there's a 3rd void unit I imagine disruption will be changed

[simple dew]

vonnegut

[buoyant hornet]

Please I beg

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

people say vonnegut cant be playable because he died

[ashen parcel]

YES PLEEEEASE

[sick flower]

thats a stupid argument

[ashen parcel]

But didnt the timeline reset?

[sick flower]

if a game community wants something, they get it

what do you mean there should be logic

the community WANTS it

[buoyant hornet]

I think they can at the very least change it so that the enemies actually do take boosted dmg after their shield breaks

That's the LEAST they could do

[simple dew]

we still have a lota candidates for a 3rd nihil unit

[ashen parcel]

Also Vonnegut is also powerfull enough to come back with his memories intact anything can be written

[buoyant hornet]

Rn shields in warzone are just HP sponges that give no score it does not make sense

[ashen parcel]

Didnt veronica die in the original timeline?

[sick flower]

im okay with even a 100% passive ability as long as i see the affix icon at the left side

[buoyant hornet]

The point of tanky waves in wz is that they give more score in return, void shield does not

[simple dew]

unknown

[sick flower]

did she die?

[simple dew]

she isnt brought up

[ashen parcel]

I see

I wana play as Chaos Or Agent Zero

[buoyant hornet]

Hot emperor angel dude as new dark attacker when

[simple dew]

probably hunted down schulz and lost her purpose

[sick flower]

i want to play as noctis in end game content

noctis deserved an S rank frame way more than 21 and vera

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[sick flower]

shut up farel

[simple dew]

noctis would be an a rank either way

[ashen parcel]

agreed. Noctis should be like Ignition attacker, Dark or somethng that would be fun

[simple dew]

not a boss

[sick flower]

what

no one said he should debut as S rank

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

he should have gotten an S rank instead of vera getting her second one

[ashen parcel]

We have awesome S ranks but enough of the righ S ranks

We're lacking so much more

[carmine mesa]

What is more valuable for the void team in WZ, SSS tank or SSS Amp, my Luna is SSS while Ishmael is SS3 so I have to choose one over the other.

[simple dew]

use tank

[sick flower]

sss vera is meta while sss wata is not

[simple dew]

wasnt wata the best one

[ashen parcel]

Wata has leap?

[sick flower]

good morning

[carmine mesa]

Wata is SSS and leaped, Vera is SSS as well

[sick flower]

66% of wata frames have leap

[ashen parcel]

Just had to make sure there was no hope for him

Was thinking maybe his leap can be leaped XD

[simple dew]

i swear the 3rd slot changes everyday

[sick flower]

only 25% of lucia frames have leap

100% of alpha frames have leap

[simple dew]

why even is vera the togoto

[ashen parcel]

THIS S"$( IS SO F(""($) BRICKED
Kuro WTF IS UP!?

[sick flower]

are you mad about 100% of alpha frames having leap

or are you mad about 25% of lucia frames having leap

[ashen parcel]

Yes

[carmine mesa]

CW's leap never did much, so does it count?

[sick flower]

you have 2 options and you said yes

[ashen parcel]

ALPHA frames are premium Brick Despite Brick

And Lucia Frames have like no leap for no reason

[simple dew]

leaped to practically never use her half of it

[ashen parcel]

ANd are doing mostly fine

[sick flower]

cw leap made her able to do a "rotation" like gen 3 units did

people underestimate cw leap for never being used in darkflow

[simple dew]

sss or bust

[ashen parcel]

I made optimal Darkflow Tsubricki
only to strip her naked and kick her out the house the next week.

[sick flower]

and sss cw in darkflow is good btw

people overlook it compared to limpidity

its not like unusable

its just not comparable

[ashen parcel]

it does dmg but it takes waaaaay tooo long to use in battle

[carmine mesa]

So it goes
Thanks for the help, time to mald Void WZ, later

[simple dew]

i used her leap once

in the tutorial

[sick flower]

okay cw hater

[ashen parcel]

I love CW which is why i kept her safe at home

Her Frame is Capped like her In lore power being sealed

Kuro is really smart and can do no wrong

[simple dew]

it didnt get sealed

globlul players and reading

[ashen parcel]

Rude

But do tell

[sick flower]

@ashen parcel name 1 gen 2 attacker that you would compare to gen 3 units

[ashen parcel]

Can you?

[simple dew]

noone cause attacker fraud class

[jolly patrol]

CW darkflow goat

[ashen parcel]

CW is in the Lab awaiting her upgrade

[sick flower]

i cant because its a stupid idea but you guys love to compare cw to limpidity or startrail

[simple dew]

doesnt high invest lamia compare to low invest walter

[sick flower]

thats because low invest crepuscule is intentionally bad

both startrail and limpidity are intentionally stupid broken

[simple dew]

yea other than that all gen 2 attackers are washed

[sick flower]

startrail is made broken to be able to carry lightning team in gen 3 content

use cw in gen 2 content use her in cursed waves she one shreds cradle in seconds

stop comparing gen 2 unit to gen 3

she is LONG gone in meta

i wouldnt see you guys comparing stigmata to pianissimo

[ashen parcel]

The Comparison isnt just stats but Gameplay Design. The difference between Gen 2 and Gen 3 is so huge its literally a show and tell of how Kuro got smarter

You could have a Gen 2 Frame with the same stats as a Gen 3 And still do worse because their skills and attacks are just worsly done

Again CW isnt even bad in DarkFlow she takes waaaay to long to get to using her damage and the stacks run out extremly quickly

Its why its frustrating to see because characters suffer to worse design philosophy not just stat differences

[raw swift]

is there a multiplayer in this game?

[sick flower]

we are getting co-op in 2 days

[raw swift]

only co-op?

[sick flower]

uh

what else did you expect

[ashen parcel]

2 Days? or 3?

[simple dew]

4-5

[ashen parcel]

10 days?

[sick flower]

wdym 5

[ashen parcel]

100 years

[sick flower]

isnt co-op coming on the 3rd

[ashen parcel]

Nah we need to wait till next timeline reset

[simple dew]

time zones

[sick flower]

oh

nvm its 3

3 days @raw swift

[ashen parcel]

I CANT WAIT TO AURA FARM ON CO OP

My gosh dude

[sick flower]

stacks run out extremely quickly?

cw only consumes darkflow stacks on ult 2

[sick flower]

you cant aura farm anymore they turned it into an actual team based mode, one player wont be able to do the show

[ashen parcel]

I might be a bit wrong there feels a little bit fast

[sick flower]

did you ask gpt to type that

and as i said

[ashen parcel]

Nah that was my auto response

[sick flower]

cw is able to do a gen 3 type of rotation with her leap

it helps with her orbs

[ashen parcel]

but she does more dmg outside of ult right?

[sick flower]

both ca and cw got leaps that help organize her orbs

[simple dew]

she doesnt do anything in her 1st form anynore

[sick flower]

gen 2 units didnt deal stupid high damage with their ult 2

[jolly patrol]

Max damage cw rot takes so long

[ashen parcel]

^

thats what i mean

[jolly patrol]

Nana slow too but she giga dmg

[ashen parcel]

rotation is good dmg but is very slow

[sick flower]

max damage pianissimo rotation takes too long, you never do max damage pianissimo rotation

[jolly patrol]

No buff to others as well, she got aura tho

[ashen parcel]

yowai

[jolly patrol]

So not max dmg = useless

Isnt that the point

[sick flower]

no

[jolly patrol]

Swap filler then?

Still useless ig

[sick flower]

pianissimo never does max damage rotation and she is always the mvp

[sick flower]

???

she is irreplaceable main dps in element and affix

[jolly patrol]

Because phys children are disowned by Kuro

[sick flower]

like

secator stigmata and vergil are not even close to pianissimo

[jolly patrol]

Yeah compare to A rank and dinosaur collab

Crazy man

[sick flower]

and no fulgor is not even considerable for glaciation

[simple dew]

vergil deals 0 dmg balter is old and discord is an a rank

[carmine roost]

Vergil is actually pretty close

[sick flower]

she is irreplaceable

[carmine roost]

And even better in some cases

[sick flower]

no

[carmine roost]

looking at IB

[sick flower]

@simple dew

[carmine roost]

Cope and seethe

You don't actually play the game

[jolly patrol]

Miku collab they will release phys goat

[sick flower]

?

[sick flower]

?

is this guy high

[simple dew]

ib next patch

[jolly patrol]

[sick flower]

he says vergil is better than pianissimo in some cases

[simple dew]

in ppc he is

i dont check others scores so might be only ib

[sick flower]

there is no way

[stray siren]

Vergil is the king for ppc

[jolly patrol]

Show 3S+ Verg gameplay I missed collab

[stray siren]

Don't you have a team? Uses vergil

[simple dew]

oh right i remember

on phys bosses the entire leaderboard is just vergils

[sick flower]

it took some time to understand the sarcasm 🥀

[stray siren]

Dw, if you have SSS+ Vergil, you probably don't know how to play meta and vice versa

[carmine roost]

So hard to tell people nowadays when 90% of them are already out of touch with the game

Smh smh

[carmine roost]

He's fast asf in exppc too

Slash dmg also pretty high

Although I can't really find more off ele s+ Vergil run anymore because most of them already buried

[simple dew]

imagine pulling dmc

[carmine roost]

For a S+ acc

You don't need to imagine

I found one

[carmine roost]

https://youtu.be/ONuiifXaSv8?si=4S4b5j112VSqNd7w

[carmine roost]

Lightning PPC #btw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1244974910049353819.webp?size=48&name=Clueless~1

[simple dew]

[carmine roost]

I don't even think s+ Liv can be that fast

She obviously overkill

[gray totem]

vergil is the goat

fr fr

[carmine roost]

But speed is 404 not found

[simple dew]

omg vero onfield

@gray totem vero upscale

[gray totem]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G3C0U1tbsAEZir2.gif

dorovero plap insert here

[simple dew]

sadly theres not gonna be any more vergilling ib

[carmine roost]

You can still just..

https://youtu.be/Hzawcn1q-yE?si=-5ilCN-ug6RPXvnK

Verg Veronica

Well
"They" is more appropriate

[simple dew]

the bat is actually useful

for giga wehls

[ancient gazelle]

Hi so uh. Kinda new here? Does anyone happen to have a tierlist?

[carmine roost]

Not really

Hard to make tier list when every element type is relevant

[ancient gazelle]

True

Its been so long since I last touched this game

Like 2022

[stray siren]

Not a tier list, just a team composition

[simple dew]

where honse

[ancient gazelle]

[stray siren]

Although I would say it's outdated

[ancient gazelle]

I came back cuz free S rank which is Ishmael

[stray siren]

Ss3 Scire + dlt has never been functional for Bianca Team

[ancient gazelle]

I assume Ishmael is still good till today

[carmine roost]

I mean it does fine to me

Slightly better than r1 ish too, but that's pretty much negligible

[stray siren]

SS R2 ish should be much better

[ancient gazelle]

I feel so winded about new stuff rn

https://tenor.com/view/blow-the-dust-meme-good-old-days-nostalgia-old-gif-17831927821295204551

Back in my day

[carmine roost]

I mean if that's your takes, r2 Daren is also on the table

But still

Honse next

[ancient gazelle]

Me like honse

[stray siren]

Zex and Feyer tried, and SS3 Scire was never able to beat Ish

[buoyant hornet]

why would you willingly subject yourself to sss breaker wtf

Genuinely after the introduction of breaker I'm feeling BAD for the whales

Imagine getting punished for paying

[gray totem]

cuz i need 100% shred up time in darkflow

[buoyant hornet]

Oh sync already did that huh

[buoyant hornet]

that's what watanabe does....

[gray totem]

wata and rosetta

[buoyant hornet]

What 😭

[sick flower]

huh

[gray totem]

no liv strats

[buoyant hornet]

Are you trying to solo vera

[gray totem]

solo? thats barbaric

wata is gonna swap

[buoyant hornet]

Why sss rosetta then lol

She can already do that at ss0-ss3

[gray totem]

i need more shred and more shred uptime

[buoyant hornet]

lol interesting

[sick flower]

will you quit pgr next patch @buoyant hornet

[buoyant hornet]

no? 😭

that's random lol

I mean I've BEEN thinking about quitting but it's not anytime so soon

I'm not even a whale lol I'm f2p

[nova marten]

🧱 🧱

[sick flower]

top 10 biggest lies human ears ever heard

[buoyant hornet]

I have the convenience of simply avoiding playing dark on the whale accounts

[buoyant hornet]

I'm literally f2p I'm not even joking lol

[sick flower]

show recharge

[buoyant hornet]

Both my main accounts and both my smurf accounts

[buoyant hornet]

Literally my whole niche among the helpers is that I'm f2p

lol

I can show recharge but I don't feel like logging rn yet

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrr-mgr-mgr-raiden-handshake-hug-gif-25122328

[buoyant hornet]

I'll prolly play some s+ void before breaker passive ruins it

[gray totem]

that fraud penguin was talking about ignition

god damnit

[buoyant hornet]

Don't be fooled by my ss3 liv and some resos not being r1 I'm just an older f2p account who played through the entirety of sync

Sync was the biggest f2p gift in pgr history

[gray totem]

the last f2p lao

[buoyant hornet]

especially the part where you skip dmc

[nova marten]

Wow who lied to you like that

Real terrible

I hope he get banned for spreading misinfo

[gray totem]

fr fr

[rose yew]

What misinfo