📨・meta-help

[buoyant hornet]

Ig so lol never really looked that closely at new unit qtes outside of ishmael

[gray totem]

penguin told me earlier that sss nanami got 13m this week and i wanna bash my head for not getting her sss and also laugh my ass off at how pathetic liv is

[sick flower]

its very old but you MUST look at ca qte though its so cool

[gray totem]

that literally higher than sss liv with ss3 nanami

[sick flower]

the guy that got banned for sexualizing a child character?

[gray totem]

i talk with him through dms

[true pivot]

this week i landed myself in a whel bracket

hopefully i get top 6 at least

[graceful summit]

[gray totem]

just get sss nanami fr fr

oh wait she isnt in arrival yet

cooked

[graceful summit]

Arrival puller smh

[buoyant hornet]

If only I had ca

[gray totem]

shukra might save u

fr fr

[buoyant hornet]

I mean sss nanami'd swap cd reduction is no joke

But in terms of DPS in isolation, ss3 liv is a lot stronger than SSS nanami

[true pivot]

i still have thunderbolt and blue selector

[buoyant hornet]

Somehow

[buoyant hornet]

I have thunderbolt which does mean that I can sss nanami with the next selector but idk if I wanna do that tbh lmao

[gray totem]

btw im talking about solo nanami

[smoky spire]

Guys, is this Rosetta a must pull, I'm currently sort of stuck because I missed Liv's 6* and Teddy Spectre

[gray totem]

didnt yomm get like 9.5m with ss3 liv and ss3 nanami

[true pivot]

fr, i dont really wanna 3s nanami

[sick flower]

alpha wombo combo

[graceful summit]

But teddy is free permanently

And yes, every debut character is a must pull

[gray totem]

@true pivot how much u got this week in light

[mighty tusk]

Rosetta is gonna be dual dps along with sss lilith and ultimaslash dps

[true pivot]

9.3m, i wantapped and malded void instead

[smoky spire]

Alright thanks, still have time to grind for her right? My campaign stages are quite low, at like 12 or smth

[gray totem]

how much is cap u think?

[graceful summit]

[gray totem]

11m?

10m?

[buoyant hornet]

SS3 liv solo supposedly gets more than solo sss nanami though?

[true pivot]

uhh, boss i got 10.6?

this week is awfully tanky tho

no clue yet

i wanna try a different rot as well

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's a good SSS but honestly idk if I care enough LMAO

[buoyant hornet]

teddy is free permanently, Liv was "limited" including her weapon and cub for some damn reason so there's no hope for that in the foreseeable future

[sick flower]

they simplified it later, she just dashes through the guy and slashes him in the process

[buoyant hornet]

And either way getting rosetta would still be more important than getting liv's weapon

[true pivot]

im still holding out on 3s teddy to pray for a proper glow wz

[buoyant hornet]

oh wow that's really cool lol

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842385491332300861.gif?quality=lossless&name=RavenMagik&size=48

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao I will need to test how well glow works with ss0 bianca, it'll definitely be stronger than ion at least

[mighty tusk]

@true pivot you going for ss3 rosetta?

[buoyant hornet]

It's really functionally the same but having to use cottie means you lose some extra dmg on mems, plus ofc no special orb for the big dmg

[sick flower]

roland spidermans his way through

[true pivot]

yea, but wanna try ss0 first

[buoyant hornet]

This looks like such a troll way to qte lmfaoooo

It's very roland

[buoyant hornet]

btw her ss0 is super strong, already confirmed stronger than sss lilith in bulk damage

[true pivot]

unfortunately yea

[buoyant hornet]

Although unless they adjust her dmg distribution in live release, she still has issues with that

[true pivot]

but as of now she has massive sp issues at ss0

[buoyant hornet]

Lilith still seems to transition more reliably between waves on non-tanky zones

[buoyant hornet]

fr?

[true pivot]

ss3 gives her sp

[buoyant hornet]

lol interesting

[true pivot]

someone tried dlt cottie and she didnt even finish 2nd rot

[mighty tusk]

Then you'll be in a good position to test ss0/ss3 rosetta TS vs sss vergil

[true pivot]

though theres a work around with different inputs

[true pivot]

😭

[mighty tusk]

Just need to know if TS will be worth touching

[true pivot]

why are you forcing me to play verge

[mighty tusk]

Kuro's mistake of having collab unit in meta

[sick flower]

@buoyant hornet

[true pivot]

if its mobs ts im playing rosetta with 0 test on verge i hope u know that

[mighty tusk]

That's fine

[buoyant hornet]

Now that's really annoying lmao, do you know if her standard ss0 rot needs dlt or not?

[nova marten]

Mob TS

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936178936684109835/1405052785124315156/GIF-250812_104618.gif

[sick flower]

i hate the dmc units bro

they are like gen 2s that cosplay gen 3

[nova marten]

Eh Donte was fine

[buoyant hornet]

oh that's lotus's core string and pyro's yellow(?) orb

[sick flower]

not even gen 2 they play like gen 1s and cosplay gen 3

[true pivot]

that im not certain, need her to be released so i can test

[buoyant hornet]

this clip will forever haunt vergil

[nova marten]

Virgil is actually the most fun unit in TS currently, just not against mob

[sick flower]

old B rank lucia qte: entire core passive basic attack combo
new S rank lucia qte: one orb

[nova marten]

[buoyant hornet]

I really hope I don't have to r2 her lmao

[sick flower]

hanying
single mob

[true pivot]

more like r3 cause she now can use bloody glorious

[buoyant hornet]

tbh it does make sense within the new kit designs, shorter animation = faster davinci cycling

Selena's qte is superb for that especially

Bianca too

[sick flower]

i know, try using gen 1 physical team you just cant switch to alpha

[buoyant hornet]

You can basically insta tap selena > dv carrier and selena's qte will be refreshed without issues

[buoyant hornet]

lmfaooo

[sick flower]

selena

walks a straight line

and spins during it

https://tenor.com/view/semazen-mevlana-konya-gif-11514384

selena

[true pivot]

the sunk cost fallacy will soon explode

[buoyant hornet]

oh is that just her 3ping animation lmao

[sick flower]

yep

[buoyant hornet]

@true pivot lmfaooo your thumbnails are always amazing

[true pivot]

[sick flower]

i love this wth

@true pivot sorry for arguing with someone like you who knows ball

[true pivot]

i hate watanabe so much im able to spawn out a crap ton of slander material

[sick flower]

he is on field for 3 seconds 💔

[nova marten]

It looks like he's giving Loona some tougue action

[graceful summit]

Wha

[true pivot]

in my eyes that reaction was sorta like a perfect "ewwww" reaction

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfaoo he pisses me off badly too

[true pivot]

i was gonna put wata in place of gordon to hurt and torture the man

[sick flower]

he ignored my apology guys 💔💔💔💔💔

[true pivot]

but i realized its better to just make it look disgusted

[buoyant hornet]

Hold dodge not working if a wave dies, shred field completely getting delayed randomly

[sick flower]

people back in the days would say you are crazy for pointing these out

[true pivot]

sometimes people often never notice stuff

[sick flower]

the context of this video is wild

[wanton hatch]

understandable

[sick flower]

bianca would kill you for saying that 💔

[wanton hatch]

shred field was heard but hit nothing

what even is wrong with this old man

[true pivot]

megaslander

[wanton hatch]

blind

old

let him rot I say

[true pivot]

i hated him when he came out

and ill hate him till the end

[wanton hatch]

[true pivot]

you know whats really unfortunate

if a new fire tank comes out, it will replace lucia instead

[gray totem]

that's not unfournate that's the good ending

[true pivot]

thats the worst possible ending

like

wdym i have to deal with watanabe

he is currently in my void, darkflow, and fire team

i dont need a new fire tank that just makes him stay

MeiHigh~1

burn this man

[nova marten]

The more time we spend with an unit the more problems arise

[true pivot]

he had so much problems that it prolonged that time

[nova marten]

That makes me think
Who's the least hated unit in the meta

An unit so good, most people can agree that they should stay in the meta for as long as they can

Apparently not Nanami because I've seen enough hate for her even though she seems like the most competent unit in the whole histody, totally not biased

[buoyant hornet]

@gray totem 2.132.1 112 glacio teddy comps

legend bracket

[graceful summit]

[rotund fox]

Vera

[graceful summit]

Zamn

[rotund fox]

[nova marten]

Nope she should become QTE slave soon, hopefully

[buoyant hornet]

If only clown ass selena would stop whiffing her basic hold at POINT BLANK

[exotic fable]

Ishy?

[nova marten]

Fck Ish tbh idk about other but I hate her so much I would never pull her

[true pivot]

sadly she is that good

[wanton hatch]

[exotic fable]

Probably the only meta unit so far that just can't miss as far as I know

Everyone else can miss

[wanton hatch]

ishgood

[nova marten]

She's a god who can dismante the universe it would be a dumb thing if she can miss

[wanton hatch]

[nova marten]

I think my whole reason to hate was because of how much Globlul casual overrated her

She's god tier
For people who know what they're doing

[exotic fable]

Btw speaking of Ishy

If she can inherit the Breaker class skill, does that mean she have access to the new Glorious Afterglow-ish weap reso now?

[wanton hatch]

should be just class skill? if so that's broken

[buoyant hornet]

she can whiff some of her dodge taps but it's not super common

[exotic fable]

She does have both amp and tank reso

[buoyant hornet]

7.7-7.8m possible if the team decides to function

Wanshi randomly travels to antarctica during hold basic and whiffs on new waves

[true pivot]

yes

[buoyant hornet]

oh-

[buoyant hornet]

@gray totem

[exotic fable]

[graceful summit]

[barren plank]

She might but we dunno

[nova marten]

Would they stop trying to shill this fraud ass god

[barren plank]

We were cooked from the moment they released Luna Oblivion and affixes with her

[peak halo]

Ish is good generaly
If u hate her thats fair

[true pivot]

i personally feel like in terms of usefulness its ish > luna > others

converting buffs and debuffs to omni is pretty fly

[sonic tide]

We'll shall see i think she will, since she can use tank amp reso

If not issok too

[noble zinc]

Am not sure if it actually works did once noticable maybe actually did cuz it was hero might be actually seeing things idk
Cuz no more ever saw it happening always in leg*
Also no shred 0dmg even if they can chain cuz attacker unlike wanshi who is tank

[buoyant hornet]

Idk if this can go any higher lol

2.12.12 122 lightning

[noble zinc]

go 9.5

Hero was 9mil easy

Leg way better

[carmine roost]

Dark bonca hard to miss, just missing shred

Wanshi can't miss, just get hit bunch

[sonic tide]

[exotic fable]

There's probably more

Wanshi can parry though

[graceful summit]

[carmine roost]

Unnecessary parry that is

[graceful summit]

Parry wanshi hate

[sonic tide]

Parry = brick rotation timing

Nice

[exotic fable]

🧱

[mild egret]

Alo, is teddy mission is permanent?

[graceful summit]

[exotic fable]

Limited aren't

Weekly missions are

[mighty tusk]

aren't you kiwied though

[mild egret]

Oh that panel is refreshed per week, thought limited since i see 5 days left

[mild egret]

Blame yommie sending me something on weekly basis

[exotic fable]

Limited missions should still go away though

Weekly missions give 500 cap per week iirc

[graceful summit]

[hoary dagger]

[buoyant hornet]

Well there's that one funny bug where his ult can randomly fail to freeze enemies and his bullet would whiff a moving enemy LMFAO

Also he has issues with landing his grenades consistently while refilling

[carmine roost]

His gun?

That's just bug

Not exactly "a character that easily miss" (enemies)

[exotic fable]

Characters that can easily miss would be Lilith

Red orb goes poof

[carmine roost]

Pre liv nana would be am honorable mention

Between the three in phys, hanying is the one that easiest to miss

For fire it's definitely wata hook

[noble zinc]

Why ching chong rot giving minus minus don't want to do again wtf

[carmine roost]

Lmao

Ching chong becoming casuul

No optimize
Just copy paste

[noble zinc]

[median shell]

[buoyant hornet]

Half of hanying's ult whiffing issues are resolved by mashing lock on thankfully

Only remaining issues is her ult taps occasionally whiffing

[buoyant hornet]

what rot?

[buoyant hornet]

My clown ass is gonna end up testing and hoping that they fix it next patch

Because they're fixing her yellow conversion bug

And then I won't run into any red whiffing for 15 minutes, I get excited, suddenly every run afterwards the red will whiff at least once

Been there before

[noble zinc]

3s light 3 rot all

[true pivot]

how u missing with hanying

[exotic fable]

What's the bug?

[peak halo]

Just wantap and promo or rentent

[carmine roost]

When the wave dead on 3rd ult tap and hanying is facing entirely 180° from spawn

That's when u know the hold ult is hitting air

[peak halo]

Air hiting is not good

I nowadays like
Lightning early waves
If nanami get blue orb she spilt the 2 dude and cant overdmg w9
And meant cant kill w10 just yellow orb kill

Also not to mention
Liv not target with qte if press early

[carmine roost]

It's the classic "if Wave X doesn't get killed in this specific way, then Wave Y won't be dead with the next rot"

We have all been through that at least once

[buoyant hornet]

sounds like cancer

[buoyant hornet]

Sometimes if you input blue then ult1 too quickly, the blue will fail to convert to yellows for ult mode

And you just lose orbs

It only happens if you input it as tight as an SP delay though so it's easy to get around tbh

[exotic fable]

Ah

Yea same deal with sp delay

This is like reverse skill issue

[buoyant hornet]

SURELY if they bothered to fix that niche bug they'd be also fixing her 2nd highest dmg move from it whiff party right? :clueless

[true pivot]

[buoyant hornet]

Mash lockon trust me this issue will happen like 70% less

Her ult whiffing tends to be because she's failing to pick up the new target(s)

[carmine roost]

Character issues

[buoyant hornet]

You can mash lockon DURING the start of the ult animation and it'll work just fine

[carmine roost]

When it's not capable of humanly fast input without bricking kits

[buoyant hornet]

You don't need to stall before ulting or anything

[carmine roost]

Another example is yellow orb hanying on swap out

[buoyant hornet]

When it's not capable of having a hitbox

Good character design

[carmine roost]

When yellow + swap too fast, u get yellow stack

But not the energy

Brick first rot cuz u'll eat 3 more blue

[noble zinc]

That game problem for everychr it is

[carmine roost]

[noble zinc]

Targeting chr hitting air too

Its not just han

Slowing down only fix

[buoyant hornet]

Oh so that's what used to randomly happen to me huh 💀

[carmine roost]

Randomly?

Oh also

[wanton hatch]

same problem with vera when swapping off too fast after 3b

[carmine roost]

Lilith is the same too

[wanton hatch]

[carmine roost]

Too fast blue + ult1 = no yellow

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1244974910049353819.webp?size=48&name=Clueless~1

[true pivot]

if you 3p swap out luna too fast she also bricks

[carmine roost]

Fck brick gaem

Too slow brick
Too fast brick

Time to kiwi to no longer brick

[exotic fable]

Skill issue or no skill issue, brick all the same

True equality

[sonic tide]

Shall kiwi

[gray totem]

[gray totem]

[gray totem]

i wanted to use to apply einstina but i cant seem to do it

[noble zinc]

My qtee nuke

[sonic tide]

accurate she's crying cuz her dmg so smoll pp

[noble zinc]

Setsu says it's possible 2 wave ein at once I don't know I never managed until now

[sonic tide]

Why not waiting for a while

[noble zinc]

It's misinput

[sonic tide]

Misinput in the last like tht i feel u, it's like im failing timing last ult bonca

Restart from beginning

[noble zinc]

Should have been 17

[buoyant hornet]

this is exactly how playing selena feels

[wanton hatch]

what u nuking lao

[exotic fable]

Nuke does a 4d chess move where ishy stores the dmg and bursts it later

It's a new undiscovered meta

[gray totem]

ss3 selena is big for glacio right?

[noble zinc]

no

1m

That's it

1wave

-2 if bric zone

[gray totem]

member when selena and roach were priority for ss3?

smh

fraud ass attackers

nanami hanying ishmael vera and vero are better than these frauds

[noble zinc]

It was good at its time top 2 prio

Now chrs like liv

Overpowered

[gray totem]

back in the day nanami was 4th on the priority list or something

[noble zinc]

Pyro #1 i remember too

[gray totem]

pyro was such a fraud

[noble zinc]

Was fun least

[gray totem]

people even then known her ss3 was mid

[noble zinc]

SS0 ion stat got known much later

Near end i guess

Which capped SS3 scores

[sick flower]

hanying

[gray totem]

yes hanying

[solemn berry]

Hi doorkun

[gray totem]

mambooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[solemn berry]

I got a ring

Me and my gf went out

[noble zinc]

[graceful summit]

[gray totem]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-munching-cat-kitty-munching-cat-eating-cat-close-up-gif-575723154021362882

[solemn berry]

I gave her a ring by the bridge near the fountain

And gave her our first proper hug

[graceful summit]

[solemn berry]

She was kinda stiff she was sht

I mean

[noble zinc]

Next day you will ser her with one blond hair guy

[solemn berry]

SHY

NOT SHT

[graceful summit]

[gray totem]

she sht fr fr

[solemn berry]

I turn around

I see my teacher

And her teacher

[gray totem]

Oguri_AAAAAA

[graceful summit]

[gray totem]

what happened after

[solemn berry]

Our teachers have been trying to find out who I liked

[gray totem]

wadahell that is sus

[solemn berry]

I left

[gray totem]

why do they even care smh

[solemn berry]

They're like first year teachers

They're pretty yojng

[noble zinc]

Got enough expnovels
know how thing goes

[graceful summit]

You read to much novels

[noble zinc]

[solemn berry]

We both minors smh

I mean she's tried to like someone else

Back when she had some stuff going on

[simple dew]

mambos back???

[spiral merlin]

Back then it was considered pretty good

Pyro just very quickly fell off

And people found tech apparently idk much about that

[sly geyser]

what tech ?

[sonic tide]

At this point every attacker ass unless 3s

[hasty bluff]

when is our horse coming ? can i do ephiliates ppc with her this week ?

[plain oyster]

Feb3 and no

[sick flower]

no

[hasty bluff]

okie

ishamel overtime ig

[sick flower]

will she come at powered?

[plain oyster]

No info for next ppc, we usually know few hrs before reset

[feral flume]

Powered, Overseer and Monzano next week

[graceful summit]

[brittle tundra]

guys what memory sets do you use on nanami for ppc? alongside liv

[graceful summit]

Usually 4dv 2gloria 2eins

Liv the only one dealing dmg afterall

[brittle tundra]

true

[ripe stag]

How long is tutorial again?

[peak halo]

Eu ib ded

[feral flume]

[brittle tundra]

what abt 21?

same as nanami?

[graceful summit]

4 Samantha 4 guin
-# or 4 Fred 4 guin if you know how to use it

Just use Samantha

[brittle tundra]

aight lemme see

btw can i use this for the other amps and tanks?

the one suggested earlier and the one now

[graceful summit]

Ehh depends

Can't say one answer for all

Team composition can be different

[brittle tundra]

fair enough

[cold walrus]

glacio is alive

[radiant panther]

I lack damage on later waves also is there a ref score on or near in this invest 2.332 using wata?

[buoyant hornet]

I have that invest but haven't played void yet

This week

[radiant panther]

Ill wait just ping me

[buoyant hornet]

well

[ripe stag]

Weakest Effect now?

[cold walrus]

weakest among all elements and affixes

new glacio amp and tank pls

[carmine roost]

What server is that lmao

W36 6.8m

Meanwhile the other w36:

.

[radiant panther]

same as usual, Im wondering why I have low damage while my wata's shred are on point anyway, I even had to waste qte on bears cause Ish fell off on damage consistency

[carmine roost]

Is that sea?

[radiant panther]

yeah dawg, I ll grind it on friday, Im malding light rn that Im asking myself how did I get such shety scores

[carmine roost]

Why are you asking yourself

Obviously you're not fast enough

It's not that deep

[radiant panther]

fast enough, dawg I got to w24 before 1 min, and after that it fell off, I even had to monitor my QTE usage just burst done high hp entities to have Ish kill faster, also I start on Luna not Ish

[carmine roost]

How do I even say this

[radiant panther]

massive thanks to Liv for choking itself at the start\

[graceful summit]

Liv what

[normal sierra]

[radiant panther]

she trips and chokes itself cause lose 1sec

[carmine roost]

Damn

People still looking at that timer?

[noble zinc]

[normal sierra]

[noble zinc]

[solemn berry]

I'm almost home

[radiant panther]

ayo wtf, w38 is this score???

[solemn berry]

Why nihil so low

[radiant panther]

1 tap

mald later

[exotic fable]

Is Luna, Wata, and Teddy the best nihil unga bunga combo wombo for IB right now?

[solemn berry]

Huh

[exotic fable]

[solemn berry]

Why no ish

[exotic fable]

Got higher score with sss teddy; ish is ss3

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

[radiant panther]

This is really disgusting wut is this bruh, w38 is this score??? the hell

[noble zinc]

Wut inv that

[rocky willow]

Should i use Ish as a tank or amp if pair with 3s teddy/wata

2s3 Ish

[stray siren]

Use Wata, if u use Wata then Ish is amp

[rocky willow]

is bc -3s cd from 3s tank right

[graceful summit]

[sonic tide]

333 yes if ish ss3

Welp can't cross ele anymore next week

[stray siren]

Yes, it allows you to perform more rotations

And 10% elemental dmg reduction from tank generally has more impact than the 10% elemental damage bonus of the amp

[rocky willow]

tks
cuz I read somewhere that said Ish tank > amp, guess that’s for 3s teams

[peak halo]

For 3s team still tank>amp until next patch
But ss0 ish team after wata leap use sss wata.
get better result than lilith.
Cuz 3s tank passive is huge

But next patch will dark team start dominate again as support in nihil
Cuz breaker class

[radiant panther]

2.32.32 Ish Amp

[noble zinc]

https://youtu.be/YduLDnA939A?si=78-BcpzvCoPvTLbR
One tap but can refer

9.2

2.32.32

[sonic tide]

K hax

[ripe stag]

I'm doing hold dodge > full gauge > hold dodge for Liv

Is your one better?

[noble zinc]

Which set of rot first depends on wave

[carmine roost]

IB Zaza do be like that

Nihil in IB has never been normal anyway

[cold walrus]

w42 is so weak

should be 16m if it was two royal guards

[ashen parcel]

They need to add more resonance material for memories in rewards or something sh*t is stupid

I have the characters i cant get the wz scores because of this dumb RNG

[carmine reef]

[stray siren]

Memo resos doesn't matter too much, maybe 1Million difference if all characters have random resos

[carmine reef]

I got more stuff for resos than i could ever need

If you are active it shouldn't be bottlenecking you

[stray siren]

I have nothing, I shouldn't have stopped playing in a double and triple patch

[carmine reef]

[ashen parcel]

Yeah dude i was given incorrect information during tripple patch so nothing saved

and im stuck with this sh*t its too much

i can go like a week without getting a single resonance i want

[ashen parcel]

THat's untrue
only for upper resos' if your not phy

lower resonance matters alot

[carmine reef]

Nah truly he's right

Going from all random to all perfect is like 1m score diff

[peak halo]

1 wave or 2

Over dps ppc anyway

[stray siren]

Just focus on min-max rotations, With SSS characters, this round is close to 47 million total, probably 44 million if no meta resos

40 - 35 If you just follow the brainded meta rotation

[ashen parcel]

its too big a gap im pissed im not satisfied with that i want my resonance

[peak halo]

Nah i get 29m in 2 zone without proper rot

[stray siren]

I read that is 13-14 millions per lightning zone onetap without SP delay

[peak halo]

Yep my sp delay run is 14.9m yet
16-17m with i seen if i fix

But im still slow and needs to get idea how to endings
132322 rot
I had like 7s too 2 ult with limpy

So not think i can 3 ult in the end

[stray siren]

[ripe stag]

Whale

[peak halo]

[buoyant hornet]

Btw in beta was saw ss3 ish ss3 luna comps get pretty good results using lilith, but we'll have to test in live whether it's equal/better than wata or not

[buoyant hornet]

I remember the time I decided to check CW's slam multiplier with mem resos vs. without and man was it a huge ass difference lmao

And that only becomes more true for new units who already have huge multipliers as is

[buoyant hornet]

waow

[stray siren]

Yes, but I think he's asking for this round xD

[buoyant hornet]

is 8.7m good for 122 resos or?

[cold walrus]

w44 havent spawned pak. i dont think it is even possible to get more in glacio at that point

[rocky robin]

okay so: I have a conundrum

[rocky robin]

Alright now that he's here my conundrum remains unsolved never mind

[simple dew]

what

[keen meteor]

S+ glacio getting less than 3s Light

[fluid gulch]

Wtf was that

[keen meteor]

Sheeeesh

[cold walrus]

Deadge

[simple dew]

2 phys units in a team

absolutely washed

[cold walrus]

I play glacio for my pleasure, not for high scores

[keen meteor]

Okay masochist

[buoyant hornet]

Do you think a glacio tank/amp would even be enough to fix glacio's problems btw?

I imagine unless that amp does some REALLY decent damage in a short time then idk

Unless they introduce the ability to let selena 2rot

[cold walrus]

I'm afraid new glacio tank and amp will kick selena out from the team lmao, if both of them will be dps

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfaoooo good point, although selena's glacio damage is far from weak tbh so idk if that's how it'll happen UNLESS

The tank and amp both do huge dps without relying on glacio gauge

[cold walrus]

Selena has two nukes with terrible damage distribution in her kit, im not sure she'll survive

[buoyant hornet]

Actually btw selena's bulk dmg in glacio is actually more than liv's darkflow per single rot

I tried testing df on powered before and 1 rot glacio >>> 1rot darkflow surprisingly

[cold walrus]

Yes but its distribution is bruh

[buoyant hornet]

Liv wasn't even able to come close to sleena's burst

[buoyant hornet]

The disrtibution would've been much better if her hold basic actually worked yeah

[cold walrus]

And she cant even double rot in glacio

[buoyant hornet]

I sometimes have to move her around during white pings to HOPE that she doesn't whiff hold basic

If she's too far, she whiffs. Too close, she whiffs

Like what are we supposed to do

Microspacing gameplay only to have her hitbox phase through them anyway

[cold walrus]

She has more fundamental problems than just missing her ba

[buoyant hornet]

I wish her white orbs did more damage

I've noticed she has a huge disparity in dmg between hold dodge and white orbs

[cold walrus]

Im really afraid it would be better to run teddy as support than selena in glacio

When we'll get good glacio tank and amp

[buoyant hornet]

At least selena's burst might allow her to quick swap imo tbh

[cold walrus]

White orbs dmg is fine if used after core tho

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe a hold dodge rot, maybe some white orbs here and there then swap out

[buoyant hornet]

That's the issue with her ss0 vs. ss3 lmao it's kinda conflicting

One tells you to use hold dodge first, the other tells you to do white orbs first

It's kinda like bianca's ss3 blue orb buff becoming useless at SSS

[cold walrus]

Yes her burst is ok, especially for later waves ig, but wouldnt it better to just run teddy with support mems? And she'll grant 40% ice dmg bonus

[buoyant hornet]

Hmmmm I never considered this, if the new glacio amp gives glacio-exclusive buffs then teddy might just stack with them

That didn't cross my mind

[cold walrus]

It only depends on your breakpoints

In reality there's no ultimate rot for selena

Different invests are used differently in different zones

[buoyant hornet]

true, while playing glacio yesterday I had to do different things for each swap

Almost got 8m in legend

Using ss3 teddy

But it's so cancer because of her hitbox issues

[cold walrus]

Same issue with burn

Where it is straight better to run vera instead of dentge

[buoyant hornet]

Pretty sure burn doesn't stack unless vero is ss3 or higher right?

Vero's base buffs are just fire

[cold walrus]

Yeah vero gets her igni buffs at ss3 and sss

[buoyant hornet]

But that does mean that having both ss3 vera and ss3 veronica gives 20% extra total

Then at sss that's 40% total

Wow lmao

[buoyant hornet]

Kuro messed up lol

[cold walrus]

40% fire and 20% igni at sss

[buoyant hornet]

Now if we get an ion tank that can solo they might kick lucia out

[cold walrus]

Lilith

[buoyant hornet]

Actually she'd be useless for a solo unit lol

Nvm

[cold walrus]

But i can see they'll kick selena from the glacio

[buoyant hornet]

Affixes are a damn mess

[cold walrus]

Unless her leap somehow will fix her

[buoyant hornet]

I still don't understand why they made teddy have no rot in raydiance

When they most likely have no intention of giving a proper ray subdps anytime soon

[buoyant hornet]

If she gets a leap it'd have to be a major overhaul tbh

And many fixes to her hitboxes

[cold walrus]

Free unit debuff

[buoyant hornet]

I lowkey wish kamui would be right after rose lol

I'm dying to know what roles he'll be

He has the potential to be so many different things lmao

[buoyant hornet]

Selena straight up needs partial timestop on her blue orb

Although I'm afraid they might lock that behind sss anyway

[cold walrus]

It would be great

But also it means her sss rot will take 4 sec

[buoyant hornet]

IF they don't, then ss0 will have a new rot

I was asked to test a blue orb strat on ss0 and it was genuinely close to being good

Was just always a bit worse than standard rots

[buoyant hornet]

LMFAOOOO

Hence partial timestop

Full timestop on it would be overkill

[buoyant hornet]

btw remember that gamemode a few patches ago where they gave some characters basically new potential leap ideas?

I wonder if that was supposed to be an intentional experiment to see our reactions

Everyone was extremely welcoming to the hanying ideas and it was what sparked hanying leap talks

[wanton hatch]

Hanleap mentioned

[buoyant hornet]

I'm begging kuro to give the new leap next patch, I wanna know who's getted leaped in beta before I use the new selector

[wanton hatch]

I'm saving that for now

not like I can get anything from ss6

[golden merlin]

Save the selector then

[buoyant hornet]

The selectors have a time limit before expiring

[golden merlin]

Rip

[carmine roost]

It's 1 month

Or maybe more?
Idk

By the time the selector actually expiring v4 probably already ended

Not like the selector have anyone op really

It probably wouldn't change your wz ppc ranking much anyway

[exotic fable]

It's not like you could get the selector on day 1

Last I check Rosetta's beta came out a week after Teddy

[carmine roost]

Oh wait

Now that you mentioned it

[exotic fable]

Yeah it's like 3 weeks

[carmine roost]

Just claim the selector in the last day of Rosetta patch/last day of event and get extended 1 month plus selector

[exotic fable]

[carmine roost]

If you're that anxious...

[exotic fable]

We probably get news of Kamui before next patch+1 month tbh

[wicked imp]

Speaking about Kamui

[carmine roost]

It would be funny

If kuro troll us

||and give nana leap||

[exotic fable]

||ishmael leap next beta||

[gray totem]

It has been a year without kj. My entire body is shaking whilst tears are dropping on my eyes, begging for it to stop. It was as if a part of me was suddenly gone into the abyss. I also suddenly start seeing things that aren't meant to be seen. Like kj's profile picture occasionally popping up here and there. In discord and in real life. Everything is like a joke to me now that he is gone. Everything is depressing, and things aren't the same without seeing kj. Oh have I missed kj. I have missed the days where we share knowledge and misinfos to each other, I have missed the days where I have been misled back when I was a beginner, as well as seeing new players get bullied. I have also missed the days where we laughed at people bricking their accounts getting CW and as well as the amounts of fate pulling that they did. I. Have missed. Him... I.. have missed... kj. Every time I tried to call out his name, it was dead silence.
"Kj! Kj!" I cried out without getting any response. It was as silent as the sounding of the ocean waves. As silent as the wind. Nothing has appeared when I called onto his name. In fact, when I tried to ask the lost sanity members, they gave me this cold stare. As cold as ice. I tried multiple times, but then nergi told me to stop. nergi showed showed me the truth, that he is forever gone. That's when I stopped calling onto his name. Oh kj, where are you? And when are you coming back my dear kj.

[carmine roost]

We have exactly

0 idea

[noble zinc]

Diff server might vary I don't know na scoring seems fine if not mald

[buoyant hornet]

One of my accs will just get ss3 ish, the other acc already has it so I wanna know if hanying will get leap or not before using the selector

If she gets leap then a selector dupe might be good in the context of the leap, and might facilitate SSSing her in the future

[golden merlin]

[buoyant hornet]

It's malded but it's basically my first week playing ss3 liv in wz so I don't know if I'm still lacking awareness of the small details

[golden merlin]

[buoyant hornet]

That would be kinda hilarious but it'd also mean physical shafted forever

[buoyant hornet]

True, if the next leap unit is on nirvatia patch that'd make the decision way easier so I hope they don't stall the next leap into kamui patch

The next leap should be nirvatia or kamui patch

Also wow we'll have a full A rank solo patch lmfao it's gonna feel dry as hell after sync

[golden merlin]

[deft apex]

U are kj

[exotic fable]

I hope so

Where's that gif of vergil missing all million hits of his million stab

[deft apex]

Smh iPad kid

[noble zinc]

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936178936684109835/1405052785124315156/GIF-250812_104618.gif

[rose yew]

Kamui is A rank?

[mighty tusk]

S-rank if you fund solon

[rose yew]

Naw I wan my refund no miku collab

[exotic fable]

We can fund Solon via his wife's skin next patch

[mighty tusk]

Skeel essyue nya~~

[mighty tusk]

Better hope I dont end up benching bianca since she's ss0 r0

[exotic fable]

Horse benching 2 units at once would be something

And said 2 units only lived for 6-ish patches

[mighty tusk]

Atleast ss3 bianca has a chance to survive

Qte nuke and blue orb buff

said blue orb buff becomes kinda useless at higher ranks

[nova marten]

Oh Midianca, you disgrace—
Trash design, and trash to play.
A design so cheap, a unit so weak,
The game itself begs you to leave.

You steal my orbs, you kill my flow,
A bugged-out hack—who coded this hoe?
"Useless without SSS and sig,"
A paywall joke, a scam so big.

I pulled for you - my darkest hour,
Like chasing salt instead of flour.
Witness her, be weak compared to Lilith too.
Now watch her fail at all she do.

The Leader of Purification Force, Solon wife and behold, but all I see,
is a stupid baboon.
They hyped you up, then dropped this mess,
A walking scam in an S-rank dress.

No damage without SSS signature,
even the kids think that you are trash.
6 months into the game ,
got smoked by your tank in fame.

Oh "Midianca", you fail both sides,
At design, and then gameplay —you disappoint.
So vault your ass, take your delete,
And pray Kuro never makes repeats!

You’re not a waifu—you're a joke,
A lazy dev's half-finished stroke.
Delete your banner, burn the code,
You’re dead weight on a dead team.

Cannot even kill random fodder,
spatial awareness like no other.
the only good thing you have is your melons, but even then,
that's a half-assed defense.

[plain oyster]

[rose yew]

from Selena to Bianca slander

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936178936684109835/1456596658841194682/32EEB1992E36574DC350586D43AEC76F.gif

Im #1 Midanca haters

[tacit tiger]

Bianca is made for Solon not you

[exotic fable]

That's one chonky loocia

[nova marten]

@gray totem this is what I promised you, enjoy

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/998700689964400710.webp?size=128&quality=lossless&name=MenheraBonk&animated=true

[nova marten]

🗑️

[golden nacelle]

[tacit tiger]

use cottie for ppc maybe

[noble zinc]

[steady otter]

Great, now you can spam ult with no dmg
Literally, your bianca just tickle the boss

Im not joking

[noble zinc]

[nova marten]

[tacit tiger]

This is full hypertune right?

[buoyant hornet]

In ppc it'll never work tbh lol

The 8s it takes to do a full hold blue rot will do more cumulative damage than however many ults you can fit in that same time frame while using cottie, which in turn also sacrifices the total buff/shred mems the team has available

[buoyant hornet]

dalao cooking homeless invest

[rough mica]

[steady otter]

Non human invest on 2026

[buoyant hornet]

Next week you can get 600k on new boss with non human invest rosetta team LMAO

It's funny how ss0 r1 units used to struggle to get 580k on new bosses

[steady otter]

Oh, when the update comes ?

[carmine roost]

Monday

[steady otter]

Alright, noted

[orchid owl]

Homeless Ephi?

[steady otter]

Not 100% homeless actually, SS3 lilith there cuz midanca cant solo

Lil bit effort for SS3 lilith

[buoyant hornet]

is the video up yet?

Oh wait isn't it an old video i think?

[mighty tusk]

he has an ephialtes vid yea

I just realized we dont have enough homeless vid like what acaxilao did

so many kiwis

and we'll likely get TS + dark wz next week

[buoyant hornet]

It's been a long time since I've cooked up homeless runs lmao

Idek if I can be good at doing that again

Well if I had access to an account that had that kind of invest I'd be willing to try at least

[true pivot]

pwo invest not pwo anymore

[opaque ridge]

When is s+ invest guide

[steady otter]

https://youtu.be/S6sdS_bnJbU?si=dK5qlkudsYp5WBqY

[noble zinc]

[nova forum]

chat is it still worth topping up on this game

[noble zinc]

no

[nova forum]

legit?

[noble zinc]

unless you giga rich

S ranks every patch with 20 builds

[nova forum]

i developed stockholm syndrome and sunk cost fallacy to this game

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

R3 min rights too seems getting ofc

[orchid owl]

[stray siren]

Endfield >>>

[nova forum]

I'm not playing any more gacha games

[stray siren]

So nope

PGR f2p

[true pivot]

dalao pls carry me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif?quality=lossless&name=dalao&size=48

[zenith thorn]

no

uninstall the game

play endfield

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/998700689964400710.webp?size=128&quality=lossless&name=MenheraBonk&animated=true

[nova forum]

[rotund fox]

Windlao how did you kill Chiko so easily with homeless invest?

[steady otter]

im not malding for homeless content honestly

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

is that hard to replicate the run ?

[noble zinc]

[graceful summit]

No he just skill issue

[noble zinc]

[steady otter]

1 hour
for min maxing dmg & input
qte timing trial

[sonic tide]

[true pivot]

dalao pls carry i cant replicate

[rough mica]

i cant do this even if my life depended on it

[rose yew]

Ending it on PGR?
After all these years?

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[keen sable]

Dont listen to this freak

Trash gacha system

Dont spend Money on that

[plain oyster]

[peak halo]

Donno
I even dont know what reasion to get new units on that game

[simple dew]

dont you want a (not) unique furry

[peak halo]

[peak halo]

Wdym

[simple dew]

everyone except the mc is a furry

[peak halo]

So furry collector only nice

[simple dew]

pretty much

[peak halo]

Maybie later get any reasion to mades team comps

[keen sable]

I got Last rite and sutr

Dont even using them

[peak halo]

I use only the 4 starter

[keen sable]

ye i use endmin cheng lifeng and snow

[orchid owl]

not a furry

a monster girl

know the difference

[simple dew]

grill yourself

[orchid owl]

no u

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-jiggy-with-it-kitty-with-it-cat-dance-gif-2215407308026614238

[noble zinc]

[simple dew]

[gray totem]

lmao

[stray siren]

I also got AK Lamia twice, But I prefer to play with 4*

[lethal cypress]

whats the build for vergil?

[graceful summit]

4 patton 4 cottie

[lethal cypress]

8?

[graceful summit]

4 patton 2 cottie + 2 cottie from weapon harmony

Don't tell me you don't have his weapon

[noble zinc]

[lethal cypress]

i have the 5 star one

[graceful summit]

Then just do 4 patton 2 cottie

[noble zinc]

[graceful summit]

-# tho I wouldn't recommend playing him at all without sig

[carmine roost]

Smash eitherway

[lethal cypress]

theres no way to obtain it now?

[graceful summit]

No

None at all

[lethal cypress]

is there a good replacement?

[graceful summit]

Replacement for?

[lethal cypress]

his weapon

[graceful summit]

No

Like every other new char, he have an exclusive weapon type

So if no 6* then 5* can only use

[lethal cypress]

i see

[graceful summit]

I mean you can still use vergil without

[exotic fable]

Wont 4 bunsen be better than 4 patton on vergil?

[graceful summit]

Just don't expect much

[graceful summit]

Probably

[noble zinc]

Wut hat

That

[graceful summit]

Ts mem

Next patch will be

[noble zinc]

[lethal cypress]

i dont really mind if he lacks dmg hes just fun to play

[cold walrus]

Wdym use rosetta

[exotic fable]

Maybe 4 patton 2 cot 2 bunsen

[graceful summit]

Issokay then

Can still play if you like

[noble zinc]

me skipling cant

[graceful summit]

[lethal cypress]

is there any good character that are coming out that i should get

[noble zinc]

Wut are the stats of new memo

2pc and 4pc

[zenith thorn]

use the dumb honse

[cold walrus]

Me kiwiing

[gray totem]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-rosetta-breaker-rosetta-pgr-gif-465122583553826170

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-rosetta-bonk-gif-25028243

[zenith thorn]

omg welcome to club dalao

play endfield

(i haven't played it yet)

[cold walrus]

Already do it

[graceful summit]

More like every debut char you should get

Rosetta next patch is good

[noble zinc]

Sig too cub too

[noble zinc]

Wpn reso too

Hyper mats too

[graceful summit]

K whel

[noble zinc]

[lethal cypress]

what about the one rn?

[noble zinc]

Meta f2p ded

Snazz also kiwi

[graceful summit]

Where my f2p dalao

[noble zinc]

Pay or get out
-kuso

[graceful summit]

Need copy homework

[cold walrus]

Ss3 is a bare minimum nowadays :broke:

[noble zinc]

Me here

[graceful summit]

Teddy?
Don't pull for her
She's free so waste of fund if pull

[graceful summit]

You r3 all

Can't afford

[lethal cypress]

shes free?

[noble zinc]

[graceful summit]

Yes she's free

Go to mission, then service mission

[noble zinc]

[cold walrus]

If you play on fat accs for free it doesnt mean you're a f2p

[noble zinc]

[gray totem]

https://tenor.com/view/kilgore-trout-vonnegut-pgr-gif-4279542929829929692

https://tenor.com/view/cat-munching-cat-kitty-munching-cat-eating-cat-close-up-gif-575723154021362882

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1426511259616022654/1455209754900172932/G9VtsmFbMAAKhmH.gif

[simple dew]

the fact maybe 3 people know who trout is

[carmine roost]

Perhaps

[plain oyster]

Maybe

[graceful summit]

Perchance

[noble zinc]

[fluid gulch]

I don't speak ching chong

[noble zinc]

That kimchi not chng chong

[fluid gulch]

k

[simple dew]

mods bonk him

[noble zinc]

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1456693490783359068.webp?size=128&animated=true

[noble zinc]

This mine

[fluid gulch]

Nah

It's ours

[noble zinc]

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[keen meteor]

Ss cubs and skin buying mfer trying to pretend to be f2p

[keen sable]

ill go get this new bianca skin

i skiped the last 3 gacha skins

[simple dew]

if i pull on coating banner i will get the character right

[noble zinc]

Me getting that skin too must pull

Pak meta

[keen sable]

ishmael selena lucia

what skin waas before them?

[simple dew]

tsubricki

luna

lamia i think

[noble zinc]

Yeah me only skipped brici skin

[nova marten]

Skin so brick even Bianca may cry

[simple dew]

peak skin just to hit like a noodle

[feral flume]

[simple dew]

that chandelier hitting like air

[gray totem]

more

moar

moar propaganda

[simple dew]

post vero plop

[noble zinc]

Wtf that vacuum delulu

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

Bro fell to his trap

Musashi strikes again

[solemn berry]

Random enemy > nanami startrail

Npc enemy upscale

[noble zinc]

Some Mfs even start healing

[fluid gulch]

Damn

Do you got more of them pixels

[noble zinc]

Ss3 liv/sss nana ult dmg big

@sonic tide

Now without amp buff

[orchid owl]

Gacha skin for mid unit

[simple dew]

mmmm half a bar ult dmg

[sonic tide]

man do it again

[orchid owl]

More like gotcha skin

[sonic tide]

Or just gib up

[noble zinc]

Thing tickling feels nana should just go ult reso all

[sonic tide]

Who knows me not rlly care bout lightning cuz brick invest

[noble zinc]

Like 11mil with wave optimize wtf

Feels bad

9.5 non sss nana

[simple dew]

what invest

[noble zinc]

2.332

[simple dew]

wehl

[noble zinc]

233

Ss let's

[simple dew]

still wehl

[noble zinc]

Sss nana soon voucherble anyway

[simple dew]

[gray totem]

https://tenor.com/view/kilgore-trout-vonnegut-pgr-gif-4279542929829929692

[noble zinc]

Future ref making for f2ps

[simple dew]

leap nana qte bot for kilgore trout lightning amp

[fluid gulch]

Wtf, not slacc bracket

[simple dew]

wehl

[fluid gulch]

Guess I'm not promoting this week

[simple dew]

everyones wehl

[noble zinc]

Fk whels

[fluid gulch]

I'm not playing nihil

[simple dew]

real

[fluid gulch]

If I did I could secure 2nd place maybe

But nuh

I'm good

[noble zinc]

Mine least chill

[fluid gulch]

I'm not balding void

[simple dew]

im not touching nihil content till fraudmael leap/bench

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-supernova-super-truth-nova-true-morgan-freeman-sephiroth-gif-4644219165557616305

Her rot is cancer

[simple dew]

ss3 or no dmg

[fluid gulch]

No dmg for me ig

[simple dew]

3 years of scratching enemies

[fluid gulch]

nugget void tank

to kill ish

Or void amp

ish qte bot

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1242497655737679973/god2-2.gif

[fluid gulch]

[graceful summit]

You want slacc bracket?
This is slack bracket
-# horrible scores but I don't feel like it

I joined like several hours ago

[noble zinc]

[graceful summit]

Bracket still not full

[noble zinc]

[graceful summit]

Na actually ded

[fluid gulch]

Can't be more ded than eu

[carmine roost]

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[carmine roost]

Skill issue

My ss0 ish stronk

[fluid gulch]

You play her then