📨・meta-help

[sick flower]

alright

[solemn berry]

I don't DM

I have 3

3 friends on discord

[simple dew]

4

[solemn berry]

Mambot.AI is me

@raw swift Is also me

My old main account

[sick flower]

i didnt know you are mambo

[solemn berry]

Yes

I do act a bit different from him

That nanami argument had me on a character development arc

[simple dew]

oh right i sent you these amalgamations

[solemn berry]

Broo

I remember when I sniped that random npc from chapter 22

Jetavie gauge

Vera garnet summer skin sunscreen

[simple dew]

even i have no clue whos in half of them

[solemn berry]

The wings were from the mother boss or something

The fish I remember

Because it was an unreleased skin of pyroath

And I didn't know

[simple dew]

her remmbers after like an hour of struggling

[sick flower]

whats that

[solemn berry]

And then that's Ballard's hand

Vera garnet

[simple dew]

vera summer idle

[solemn berry]

That's her sunscreen

[simple dew]

thing

[gray totem]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[solemn berry]

saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[simple dew]

where even is that image from

is that her actual idle

[solemn berry]

No

It's her ending animation

[simple dew]

[spare coral]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/22326351/characters
What memory set should I use for teddy to compliment geir and oblivion?

[solemn berry]

Uhh

Okay so

What team is this supposed to be

Ice? Fire? Nihil?

[gray totem]

for what content

what game mode

[spare coral]

Uhm was mostly interested in a worthwhile investment for a team that can do a couple of things

[solemn berry]

Teams usually only do one thing

[gray totem]

there is no team that can do multiple things and a team without a tank

[spare coral]

I see

[gray totem]

will certainly wont do that

[solemn berry]

Oof

Where'd you get daren

I mean

Karenina Scire

[gray totem]

base banner

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-smh-laughing-laugh-gif-16005642344163940773

[spare coral]

😅

[gray totem]

he got both vera and karen

[spare coral]

I was told Vera was a worthwhile pull and I pulled scire before her

[gray totem]

wadahell

[solemn berry]

[gray totem]

how did u get vera then

[spare coral]

I targeted her

[solemn berry]

Yeah

On arrival?

[gray totem]

this makes no sense

[spare coral]

Nah on member target

[solemn berry]

Ehh

So where'd you get daren

[gray totem]

so how did u get daren then

[spare coral]

Ig from main banner when I had enough for ten pull?

[solemn berry]

Scire isn't on the main banner anymore

So you got her on fate

[spare coral]

Got it

[gray totem]

she wasnt on fate

[solemn berry]

I mean

Not on fate

Arrival

[gray totem]

not on arrival

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[spare coral]

Anyways do I have any coherent teams I can make with my current roster?

[solemn berry]

Huh

Well if she wasn't on any arrival banners then

Let's not get distracted

[gray totem]

if u get wanshi from the dorm

u can get ice team

[solemn berry]

Well ice team

[gray totem]

with teddy and wanshi

[spare coral]

Who'd be the third member?

[solemn berry]

Whoever

[gray totem]

and a 3rd unit would probably be lilith

[solemn berry]

Another amplifier

[spare coral]

Okay cool I am close to Lilith

[gray totem]

another amp ideally

[solemn berry]

Dark could be made

Lilith and Rosetta will help you

[gray totem]

next patch we get rosetta

[solemn berry]

For third member

[gray totem]

pair her up with lilith

[solemn berry]

Can be some other amplifier again

[gray totem]

boom dark team

[spare coral]

So geir + Luna + teddy is not viable?

[solemn berry]

For what

[gray totem]

a team without a tank is not a team

[spare coral]

I've been got

Understood

[solemn berry]

Geiravor

[gray totem]

fire

[solemn berry]

Can be in your fire team

[gray totem]

for fire use

[spare coral]

Yeah her and oblivion right

[gray totem]

wanshi and luna and vera

[spare coral]

Just need a tank for em

[solemn berry]

Yeah that can work for now

Wanshi

[gray totem]

or rosetta instead of wanshi

[solemn berry]

Then can be rosetta

[gray totem]

when u get her

[spare coral]

Where do I pull Rosetta?

[solemn berry]

She'll release on the event banner on feb 3 iirc

[spare coral]

Got it got it

[solemn berry]

We're so interlinked

[gray totem]

@spare coral #📨・general-help message dont forget to redeem these codes

[solemn berry]

We should kiss

[spare coral]

I did thank you

[solemn berry]

[gray totem]

nah uh i dont wanna be on the fbi list for kisssing a minor

[solemn berry]

You're also a minor

[simple dew]

omg another daren puller

[gray totem]

lol

he doesnt know

[solemn berry]

Are you not

[gray totem]

im unc

[solemn berry]

Oh my fays

Unc

Nvm

I thought you were like 16

[gray totem]

people always say i look and sound young but im a dinosaur

[spare coral]

Ight so until Rosetta I'm running cw feral 21 and Liv it seems

[solemn berry]

Liv?

[gray totem]

anyway back on topic

[spare coral]

Luminance

[gray totem]

@spare coral

we get a selector next patch

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

[spare coral]

Oh she's support not tank nvm

[solemn berry]

Tank

[spare coral]

Chill guys chill my bad

[gray totem]

select nanami startrail in it

[solemn berry]

Oh yeahh i forgot about the selector

[noble zinc]

Can't beat your score too op run already

[solemn berry]

Nanami will work out to be your lightning dps

[gray totem]

wadahell me and u have become unc

we are washed

thats ori score btw

not me

[solemn berry]

Noo

[noble zinc]

[solemn berry]

Nuke washed

[noble zinc]

[solemn berry]

This isn't possible

[gray totem]

im 8.8m

[spare coral]

I've used my selectors 😅

[solemn berry]

This one is new

[gray totem]

new one next patch

[spare coral]

Bet bet

[gray totem]

get startrail from it

[spare coral]

Got u

And pair her with CW and feral for lightning team?

[noble zinc]

[gray totem]

u can use vera and rosetta and lilith for darkflow team

[gray totem]

we washed fr fr

[simple dew]

wait he has luna

[gray totem]

its time to pass the torch to the new gen

[simple dew]

does feral have the same buff as teddy/vera

[solemn berry]

No

Lmao what

Feral gen 2 teddy vera genn3

[simple dew]

throw out cw and feral for oblion and vera OR teddy

[gray totem]

where tank

[solemn berry]

Yes my favourite lightning team

[simple dew]

nanami next patch

[gray totem]

average pyroach fan advice

[simple dew]

[solemn berry]

Replace lightning units with

Fire and ice

Because that's way cooler

[spare coral]

But there's no tank in that team

[solemn berry]

It identifies as a lightning team

[gray totem]

i must hate on pyroach sorry farel

[solemn berry]

He's learning

[gray totem]

lol

[solemn berry]

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-pgr-luna-pgr-pgr-luna-punishing-gray-raven-gif-15348266922370259298

[gray totem]

luna on her period or smth

[solemn berry]

Hey Luna are you okay

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-pgr-luna-pgr-pgr-luna-earth-gif-13143609755463017449

this how i feel about this channel

[gray totem]

It has been a year without kj. My entire body is shaking whilst tears are dropping on my eyes, begging for it to stop. It was as if a part of me was suddenly gone into the abyss. I also suddenly start seeing things that aren't meant to be seen. Like kj's profile picture occasionally popping up here and there. In discord and in real life. Everything is like a joke to me now that he is gone. Everything is depressing, and things aren't the same without seeing kj. Oh have I missed kj. I have missed the days where we share knowledge and misinfos to each other, I have missed the days where I have been misled back when I was a beginner, as well as seeing new players get bullied. I have also missed the days where we laughed at people bricking their accounts getting CW and as well as the amounts of fate pulling that they did. I. Have missed. Him... I.. have missed... kj. Every time I tried to call out his name, it was dead silence.
"Kj! Kj!" I cried out without getting any response. It was as silent as the sounding of the ocean waves. As silent as the wind. Nothing has appeared when I called onto his name. In fact, when I tried to ask the lost sanity members, they gave me this cold stare. As cold as ice. I tried multiple times, but then nergi told me to stop. nergi showed showed me the truth, that he is forever gone. That's when I stopped calling onto his name. Oh kj, where are you? And when are you coming back my dear kj.

[noble zinc]

[simple dew]

whos kj

[solemn berry]

The cc duh

[simple dew]

whats a cc

[solemn berry]

[simple dew]

chaos contamination?

[solemn berry]

Sure

[simple dew]

[solemn berry]

We can go with that

[simple dew]

[vague nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/994192375427641344.webp?size=96&animated=true

[golden merlin]

Contingency Contract

-# CC#4 Battleplan Arclight

[lusty minnow]

Free selection up to ishmael

[median shell]

@gork is this true?

[short rock]

lao

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

[vague nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/994192375427641344.webp?size=48&animated=true

[median shell]

[gray totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1460511733251575859/1312756330469130311.gif

[graceful summit]

Whudahell nuke

Run was bad

How you not beat already

Wanshi dum fk parry last rot

[noble zinc]

[spare coral]

Is there any universe where xxi geir and oblivion is a solid team comp for ele damage?

[simple dew]

in a universe where xxi is a gen 3 tank, yes

[spiral merlin]

ish free next patch

can ignore nihil till then ig

well not ignore but at least not a prio

[spare coral]

Meaning ss, right?

[spiral merlin]

lol

nothing you do will make xxi good

xxi could be s+ r3 and rosetta could be lvl 1 s0 and xxi still disintegrates

[buoyant hornet]

Dmc lmao

I was already burned out and tired and was on the verge of quitting but instead ended up taking 3-4 weeks off during dmc patch and my friends maintained my weeklies for me

But beforehand I was considering quitting around dmc patch and then bad decisions on bianca and veronica patches made me even more mad lol

[buoyant hornet]

9 AP ishmael for adv ppc on my smurf accounts when

[wise mango]

Knowing we are getting an s rank selector, should i get oyroath ss3?

[graceful summit]

[barren plank]

I am not any of these people

But ngl every since they announced sync

And from there on out it just got progressively worse

I dont remember what patch CN was on when they announced sync for the other servers

[simple dew]

ishmael patch

±1

[lapis elbow]

pyroath kinda washed ngl might get replaced by kamui cause he's very fire-coded

[simple dew]

you dont guess character element

[lapis elbow]

I always guess character element

[simple dew]

you pray

[lapis elbow]

and I got rosetta right 🙂

after thinking veronica would be dark tank

[simple dew]

i guessed teddy rosetta and veronica

[sick flower]

everyone said dark tank because they couldnt wait

my boy kamui deserved it

but kuro had to shut the playerbase up

[lapis elbow]

and who thought she'd be PHYSICAL of all things

that still makes no sense

[normal sierra]

she's not phy

[fluid gulch]

She's TS

[lapis elbow]

she is tho unless ur alisa is whel invest

[fluid gulch]

What

[sick flower]

damn why do you all hate dmc patch so bad

[normal sierra]

wait, you mean midnica?

you quoted a message saying rosetta lul

[lapis elbow]

I thought he meant my second thing cause I mentioned thinking vero would be dark tank

leading into him saying "everyone said dark tank..."

[simple dew]

literally a void for half the community

[lapis elbow]

so ya I think it was a fair assumption to think he was also talking about vero

[simple dew]

pull? nothing
events? nothing
rewards? alisa and nothing

[fluid gulch]

Fcking desert of a patch

[normal sierra]

alisa reward?

[fluid gulch]

Coating

[sick flower]

well

[fluid gulch]

For stylish mode

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-alisa-alisa-echo-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-punishing-gray-raven-alisa-gif-9632900688742396137

[lapis elbow]

dmc was peak

[fluid gulch]

No

[cold walrus]

Best girl is a reward

[sick flower]

dmc patch had the best boss and thats it

[normal sierra]

but best gurl is

[sick flower]

nothing else

[normal sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404355613909319682/1429229893828345926/karen_bonks_dumb_dawn.gif

[lapis elbow]

@simple dew I'm gonna make you gregnant

[normal sierra]

[fluid gulch]

[lapis elbow]

🤨

[simple dew]

wind

[fluid gulch]

Nah

I don't feel no wind bro

[gray totem]

ice attacker i believe

[cold walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-punishing-gray-raven-liv-pgr-pgr-liv-pgr-liv-im-inside-ur-walls-gif-27451765

[gray totem]

https://tenor.com/view/karenina-pgr-karenina-karen-pgr-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-16353287020563946963

[normal sierra]

bold of you to think I have walls

[fluid gulch]

Eh, Vergil was nothing special, really

[simple dew]

yea

you could see your charas chest

and thats it

[normal sierra]

Farel focusing on changwho chest

[fluid gulch]

Stylish mode was also doo doo

Almost nobody liked it

Except Timi

[normal sierra]

"stylish"

[fluid gulch]

Emphasis on the word stylish

When you can pick Vera and spam parry

and never get hit

unless unlucky

[sick flower]

??

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-fazbear-freddy-fasbear-fazbear-dwane-johnson-eyebrow-glasses-gif-22778335

[normal sierra]

now where is changwho version? I know you have it

[sick flower]

why am i even asking malders about fun boss fights 😭🙏

[fluid gulch]

Vergil ain't even that fun

[sick flower]

name fun bosses

[fluid gulch]

He was designed around you using collab characters

[simple dew]

i like doing stylish fights but vergil was ehh

he doesnt fit the game

[normal sierra]

riot is fun, me like dancing to the lasors for 2 minutes

[sick flower]

and you used let me guess vera

[fluid gulch]

Yes, ofc

[sick flower]

vro

[fluid gulch]

Why would I use dmc scum

That literally proves my point tho

[simple dew]

what kinda boss fight is it if only 2 charas can make it work

[fluid gulch]

Unless you're using collab characters you won't get much fun out of it

[wind hemlock]

DMC too complex for PGR, but props on Kuro for trying

[normal sierra]

all chars could just spam the same carp over and over and still get all the rewards, including those useless nameplates

[sick flower]

because the 2 dmc units were not made like the pgr characters

[fluid gulch]

Nugget boss fight>Vergil

[simple dew]

real

[sick flower]

they cant make the boss fun to fight against using pgr characters

[fluid gulch]

Then it's not fun???

You just said it

[sick flower]

it was insane to do vergil vs vergil tho could play the game everyday for that only

[fluid gulch]

They could've made him fun, but decided to go lazy way and stole his entire moveset from the game

[wind hemlock]

More like stole half of his moveset

[simple dew]

i mean it was expected they would be a copy paste

[wind hemlock]

[fluid gulch]

You get the point

Nugget is literally more engaging than Vergil

Period

[simple dew]

dmc bros would put up a tantrum if they cant recreate their amazing vergil combo

[fluid gulch]

Fcking Trailblazer is more fun

[simple dew]

1:1

[normal sierra]

you sure? I still spammed the carp outta their single skill in that event, just like I did on vera

[fluid gulch]

Hamlet>Vergil

And I can go on and on and on

[simple dew]

alr that feels kinda like a reach

unless rfd does shi to him

[fluid gulch]

He steals your UI

[simple dew]

rdf

[fluid gulch]

I don't remember vergil doing that

I remember seeing his ass stealing my bc

[normal sierra]

but he doesn't have time to do that if you go with the right build

[simple dew]

[fluid gulch]

Wrong gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1360894271552622623.webp?size=128&animated=true

[simple dew]

pheeb

[sick flower]

they recreated the boss fight accurately

[wind hemlock]

Only the boss fight

Playable Vergil tho

[fluid gulch]

And it doesn't fit the game

[sick flower]

they made the most accurate vergil on any game whats wrong with that

[normal sierra]

all collabs are 🚮 in any game anyway, dmcring isn't special

[fluid gulch]

Whats the point when his entire gimmick is that you can combo him, but the only characters that can do that are collab ones

99% of the roster fights him like any other boss

He ain't special

[simple dew]

bayonetta collab when

[fluid gulch]

Never

[normal sierra]

[fluid gulch]

No more collabs for god sake

[sick flower]

wont you just complain about bayonetta not fitting the game as well

[simple dew]

hi3 maybe?

[normal sierra]

I can only tolerate a collab with eos

[fluid gulch]

We're eosing this year anyway

[simple dew]

then persona collab

[gray totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1426512284288548915/1455438605324386337/lv_0_20251230125228.gif

[normal sierra]

I sure will

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-ssj3-ssj3-zatoru-dokkan-gif-406558787419573683

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-eos-gif-4243180209850464961

[wind hemlock]

Nothing wrong, we just dissing on collab

Though I'd rather play DMC itself

[fluid gulch]

I actually liked dmc before the collab

[acoustic grail]

who should i get a dupe for from the member target thing with blue tickets

[wind hemlock]

Than PGR sons of Sparda

[fluid gulch]

but unbearable fandom literally made me hate it

So much idiots

[acoustic grail]

me when i call a game trash because of the fandom and cant be bothered to ignore them

js ignore em bro

[fluid gulch]

I literally couldn't

[acoustic grail]

its so normal to see idiots everywhere

[normal sierra]

post the link to that huaxu, we can't see who's ss0 or ss3 like that

[fluid gulch]

It gets to a point

[acoustic grail]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/27766696/characters

[fluid gulch]

When I see 241513th plastic chair joke in a day

[simple dew]

vergil daughter

[acoustic grail]

that stuff stopped being funny like 4 years ago bro

and the vergil daughter stuff

[fluid gulch]

THEY STILL JOKE ABOUT IT

THAT'S THE POINT

[acoustic grail]

ok cool shes got a katana and does slashes

[simple dew]

you can open any social, search vergil and half of what youd get are vergil offspring jokes

[fluid gulch]

MONEH

[simple dew]

<@&595893856554319873>

[fluid gulch]

MINE

[acoustic grail]

vergil is so boring anyway

[fluid gulch]

BACK OFF

[simple dew]

moneh!!1!1!1!1!

[fluid gulch]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-UvKTSasAANWXW.gif

[acoustic grail]

vergil is the most overrated character ever

[normal sierra]

you don't have any ss3 it seems
nana a gut choice to ss3, great value, but wait for others to see if they recommend other char

[acoustic grail]

ive only been told nana ss3

[normal sierra]

or you could just save it for future chars

[pearl solstice]

[acoustic grail]

ill just get her ss3

[acoustic grail]

cant

its only up to certain chars

if they do for newer its gonna be reset so

[normal sierra]

that banner gets updated regularly

[simple dew]

fork stole moneh

[pearl solstice]

[fluid gulch]

Damn you Fork

[pearl solstice]

I didn't even do anything

[normal sierra]

horse should be added 2 patches after her release, for example

[fluid gulch]

How am I gonna afford 3s bera now

Shame

[pearl solstice]

U don't

She is overrated

[acoustic grail]

meh i only care about alpha and kamui, mainly kamui

[wanton hatch]

[normal sierra]

reset, if we get one, will most probably happen in december, plenty of new chars will drop until then

[fluid gulch]

Get dis mod out of here

[simple dew]

fork

[buoyant hornet]

Where do I even start

• Collab units shoehorned into meta, neither of them being truly "Free" or usable without spending BC. This patch was also sandwitched between 2 non-free S rank patches btw
• Kuro doubling down on forcing them into meta by adding a trueslash boss in PPC
• It was the patch that brought back mob warzones from the dead, since Wanshi patch mob zones were extremely rare and almost nonexistent and we were much happier
• Dry asf patch overall and really long

[normal sierra]

alpha probably phylocarp unit, so she wont be in blue banner (thou we just guessing with this one)
but kamui should be there, well, if you are willing to wait that long to use that banner selector

[pearl solstice]

[simple dew]

they should seriously increase event count

[pearl solstice]

Hi vera fans

How are u

[simple dew]

idk how 7 is

but hru

[sick flower]

ascendants do not participate in phylotree

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah they'll def make alpha phylotrash imo

[fluid gulch]

6 doing fine, idk about 7

[buoyant hornet]

To get the FOMO hype lol

[simple dew]

she will find a way to shove herself there

[wanton hatch]

6-

[lapis elbow]

sounds like cope ngl mob wzs are good variety

[sick flower]

ascendants do not participate in phylotree

[wanton hatch]

[buoyant hornet]

It's easy for kuro to come up with some nonsense way in story tbh lol

[normal sierra]

and they are enemies of babylonia too, yet we can pull for them and play with them

[lapis elbow]

[buoyant hornet]

I don't suppose you actually play meta much if you're saying this tbh but that's just a guess

Never seen a single meta player say they liked mob zones

[wanton hatch]

all mobs next week then

[simple dew]

I

LOVE

BEARSSSS

[buoyant hornet]

Especially when half the current characters are straight up bugged and/or dysfunctional on mob zones specifically

[normal sierra]

do we get bears in mob zone?

[visual topaz]

good for you, because i don't like bears

[wanton hatch]

5 bears

[lapis elbow]

I dabble in the teams and rots but crying about not getting the arbitrary score you want is kinda silly

[simple dew]

wait mob

[buoyant hornet]

I'd rather have 10 bear waves back to back than deal with mobs

[simple dew]

i cant read

[visual topaz]

i just had 3 in a row in plasma wz

[fluid gulch]

500 bears

[sick flower]

both of the alpha frames are free i dont understand why are you guys so addicted to the thought of alpha being limited even though its impossible

[wanton hatch]

[simple dew]

i love mobs

[normal sierra]

but we hab boss zone there now not mob

[buoyant hornet]

Ok see you walk into a channel called "meta help" and try to tell us what matters in meta when you're not a meta player

[fluid gulch]

It's def not impossible

[visual topaz]

boss zone in hero is torture

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe take this discussion to General-help kindly

[sick flower]

they listed all the factions but the ascendants

[lapis elbow]

ok but saying the collab patch is bad because it hurts your wz ego is still insane

[wanton hatch]

it was tbh

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[wanton hatch]

dead patch

[normal sierra]

brah, it's not about story, it never is with banners
it's about income and preying on fomo cases

[fluid gulch]

So? Kuso can still make sht up on the way

[graceful summit]

[wanton hatch]

[buoyant hornet]

I did not mention warzone or warzone scores but pop off, I will stop responding to someone who's clearly purely casual trying to tell people in the meta space how to feel about meta now.

[fluid gulch]

Alpha is literally perfect FOMO bait

[sick flower]

@fluid gulch @normal sierra @simple dew why is crimson weave the biggest money maker of pgr given for free?

[lapis elbow]

yaaaas king you did not mention warzone

[sick flower]

what you are saying did not apply to alpha in any possible way

[normal sierra]

you missed the part when she only got free and outdated after years of her release

[buoyant hornet]

It's not about scores it's about how annoying and janky it is but you wouldn't know, would you?

[simple dew]

given away a patch after she got brnched

[wanton hatch]

Feyer said chars were dysfunctional

[buoyant hornet]

Since you barely play warzone with meta in mind

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

okay keep thinking she is limited

[buoyant hornet]

Keep going lol nice ragebait

[wanton hatch]

[fluid gulch]

Give me some

[lapis elbow]

this is why people say the pgr community is toxic 🥀

[fluid gulch]

Me hungry

[simple dew]

she will 99% be phylo one way or another

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

if the next alpha is limited i am SKIPPING her

[graceful summit]

[simple dew]

no you just cant read

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1372195370846916736.webp?size=128&animated=true

[normal sierra]

fake beta fan

[buoyant hornet]

She only became free on the same patch she became useless for 90% of the playerbase, and she also had an abnormal amount of SFX coatings alloted to her so clearly she's a money printer tbh lol

[visual topaz]

new skins on liv patch for spenders

i haven't got to use it

[simple dew]

doesnt cw have the most coatings

of everyone

[visual topaz]

i think same as eclipse

[buoyant hornet]

You walk into a channel called "meta help", ruffle the feathers of meta players, tell them that caring about meta is "silly", then call the community toxic

I'm not even gonna elaborate further but you might need to move to a general channel if you dislike meta so much.

[wanton hatch]

[visual topaz]

feyer just stop

[simple dew]

the ancient frames have that many coatings?

i thought they have like 1-2 each

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I will

[graceful summit]

[fluid gulch]

Veritas has around 4 or 5

[buoyant hornet]

why though lol

[visual topaz]

gray feather, star of life, christmas, maid of time, agent peacock, tiara

[fluid gulch]

6

[sick flower]

to boycott kuro

[visual topaz]

• 3 base skins

[normal sierra]

veritas ink coating was dope

[fluid gulch]

Let's not count base skins

[visual topaz]

yeah just 6 for eclipse

[wanton hatch]

fake alpha fan

[simple dew]

ember also has 6

[sick flower]

there is an era of gen 1 units getting like 5 skins each

[visual topaz]

CW has stride of vigor, nightbreaker, zhuolu's rain, vow of dragon, tsubricki and hunt of Retribution

[sick flower]

plume, veritas, ember etc have stupidly many skins

[visual topaz]

6 too

[simple dew]

the gray raven skins are so ugly

[visual topaz]

I like lotus Gray Feather

[sick flower]

no they are basic but good

better than the ones that look like zombies i forgot what they are called

[fluid gulch]

For 2021 maybe they were good

[normal sierra]

smh, hiding the best part of lotus with that coating

[fluid gulch]

And they're stupidly overpriced

[fluid gulch]

90

for this

[visual topaz]

they got discounted during first lunar year

not sure

[fluid gulch]

wha

[simple dew]

isnt alphas one like 120

[fluid gulch]

110 is max

[visual topaz]

since then i've never seen those at 68 RC

[simple dew]

yea 110

[normal sierra]

don't you guys have like 3000 blueprints by now? no? just me? ok

[visual topaz]

sketches or blueprints

[normal sierra]

pretty sure I can buy 3000 blueprints by now

[visual topaz]

not sure

you have to divide sketches by 25

to get blueprint amount

[normal sierra]

ye

[fluid gulch]

so for a 1000 blueprints, you would have to spend 25000 sketches

[simple dew]

i bought only camu, garnet, yata, teddy, lilick and discord coatings

[visual topaz]

except the daily discounted 3 dorm coins sketches you're buying 5:1 dorm coins for sketches

[fluid gulch]

I don't see Rozen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/860744466107990026.webp?size=128&animated=true

[visual topaz]

what rozen

[buoyant hornet]

I think they used to be much more random with their skins in older days, recently they seem to focus skins on characters they know are popular in some way

[visual topaz]

all her skins were login free gifts

[sick flower]

i LOVED rozen early game

[fluid gulch]

The idol one too?

[visual topaz]

yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Bianca, alpha, karen

[visual topaz]

grand blue login rewards

after 14 days

[buoyant hornet]

All loaded with skins

[fluid gulch]

I'm not fossil enough

[visual topaz]

she had a song

vs camu

glb song

[fluid gulch]

That I know

[visual topaz]

the votes were rigged asf

[simple dew]

fossils and more fossils

[visual topaz]

cuz camu was actually winning

[fluid gulch]

WHAT

HUH

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

camu was loved by the community?

[fluid gulch]

MALE WINNING AGAINST FEMALE

[visual topaz]

maybe not in China

[fluid gulch]

Blasphemy

Dark magic

[visual topaz]

his skin got discontinued

[simple dew]

oh right

[sick flower]

wasnt it because everyone hated it

[simple dew]

it did suck kinda

nit surprised

[visual topaz]

the demon king one during empy patch

[normal sierra]

wait, how many sketches we get when we buy that discounted one? 1 or more? me forgot

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-laughing-gif-lol-funny-loud-laugh-gif-7926424135311815001

[sick flower]

IT LOOKED ASS

[fluid gulch]

Yea

[visual topaz]

always packs of 5

[sick flower]

LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING AN EDGY 7 YEAR OLD DREW

NO DETAILS NOTHING

[fluid gulch]

It really did looked like doo doo

[visual topaz]

3 dorm coin per day for the discounted 5

then 5 dorm coins for 5 sketches

[simple dew]

this one is perfect for him

[visual topaz]

that was his release skin

[sick flower]

top 5 free pgr skins

[fluid gulch]

I mean it's fine

For a dust collecting character

[visual topaz]

i can hop on my main and check my count

[fluid gulch]

I'm pretty sure my Camu is still like lvl 1

[sick flower]

its so good its like his basic skin now

[visual topaz]

but p sure i don't have 3k blueprints

[simple dew]

guild battle

[fluid gulch]

Just use trial

[visual topaz]

buz i calced smth like 3 months for 49 coating blueprints

[sick flower]

when someone mentions camu you dont think about his basic coating

[sick flower]

you think about that

it SUITS him

[fluid gulch]

No

[keen saddle]

does new rosetta replace hanying in ultima teams?

[fluid gulch]

I think about his basic coating

[simple dew]

no

[sick flower]

WHY would you think that

[fluid gulch]

She replaces vorgil

Cuz no ts shred

So hanging lives another day

[simple dew]

we all thought she is replacing hanging

[normal sierra]

I hab 20k kamui coins and something like 10k sketches + 200 blueprints now
damn, I thought this would net me more blueprints

[keen saddle]

uh because breaker = tank hanying = tank

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh that skin was giving "graphic design is my passion" but maybe if they polished it they could've just released it afterwards lol

[simple dew]

[keen saddle]

oh wow pretty short run

so i still need ss3 hanying

[fluid gulch]

Short?

[sick flower]

top 10 reasons for eos

[keen saddle]

or does she help with stack gen

[visual topaz]

ripge

[fluid gulch]

Too long

Collab units in meta is a mistake

[keen saddle]

(i quit when vergil came out and came back this patch)

[visual topaz]

Sixth never was rich whutduhell

[fluid gulch]

Kuro didn't learn from Nier

[buoyant hornet]

I have a somewhat biased reason (or two reasons) for liking it but yes, even aside from that it's super well designed

[normal sierra]

[sick flower]

how much is hanying ts shred

[keen saddle]

yeah...

[wanton hatch]

rosy doesn't shred ts so hanying stays

[keen saddle]

pain

[wanton hatch]

[simple dew]

camu new frame ples

[sick flower]

guys how much is hanying ts shred

[keen saddle]

wait do i still need ss3 hanying though

[simple dew]

25-45 iirc

[buoyant hornet]

ss0 hanying does work for trueslash because vergil and rose generate enough stacks to not make them useless without ss3 han, but her ss3 still helps

[buoyant hornet]

Same values as physical they're the same

[sick flower]

if its 25% im using veronica rosetta vergil bruh 😭

[sick flower]

how much was physical i forgor

[wanton hatch]

[visual topaz]

25-45 on base shred

[simple dew]

oh wow i was right?

[visual topaz]

if you exclude stuffs like patton and DD reso

[sick flower]

yep im running vero rose vergil

[buoyant hornet]

Physical works with different metrics than elements, it doesn't follow the same 25-35-45 pattern of elemental tanks

[visual topaz]

wait no

that's phys

[buoyant hornet]

That doesn't work she doesn't shred physical

[visual topaz]

they had 15-35 i think

because of def shenanigans

[buoyant hornet]

Physical shred is more impactful than elemental btw so their lower numbers should not fool you

[visual topaz]

elemental excluding phys have 25-45

[simple dew]

can we just nake phys a normal element

[fluid gulch]

They tried

With slena

[sick flower]

25% doesnt make up to rosetta damage 😈

[buoyant hornet]

Patton is as good as chen or shakespeare despite only giving 7% phys shred compared to the elemental mems 15%

[simple dew]

instead of all these defs crits floats and whatever else

[visual topaz]

they'd have to remove yellow bars

[buoyant hornet]

Shred isn't dispensable it's mandatory

[simple dew]

what even are they

[buoyant hornet]

Without physical and defense shred neither vergil nor rosetta will do any damage

[visual topaz]

Defense

[fluid gulch]

super armor

[sick flower]

oh wait

they need physical shred right

[visual topaz]

when enabled the mob or boss receive 20% Phys resistance

[normal sierra]

is fine, just delete some lines and done

[fluid gulch]

And the game just explodes, great

[simple dew]

just delete all lines while st it

[visual topaz]

then we'll have intern-kun running emergency maintenance

[sick flower]

add more numbers to bianca and lucia damage and its good

[visual topaz]

remove TLC

[wanton hatch]

Bianca dmg is enough already tho?

[fluid gulch]

Back to gen 1

Back to monke

[buoyant hornet]

Physical is the mother dmg type of trueslash so yes physical buffs and shred also benefit ts

[fluid gulch]

Bring ORB rng back too

[visual topaz]

I'm like fine with more animations but just keep timer, their ult dmg at that time alrdy kill bunch of waves, no need to freeze timer vs gen 1

[normal sierra]

it's not that deep
if they have a tiny ounce of senseful programming, they made all these in a setting area and not just litter them all over the actual code part

[sick flower]

laviva my bianca is unfortunately facing death, i tried laviva i tried, i made her r2 but no... she is not worth it for my invest...

[wanton hatch]

no need r2 tho

sadly sss for rights it seems

[visual topaz]

cuz rn it's just about abusing the char with longest ult animation and fastest ult deployment

[sick flower]

i tried to make her good she just isnt

[wanton hatch]

even ray?

[sick flower]

fattest ult deployment

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

yeah she is beyond good for my raydiance

[barren plank]

I liked Shukra in the sense where you didn't have to lose your mind malding orb rng like crazy, but at the same time you can't uunga buunga her either

[visual topaz]

typo my s key kinda broken

Myc

i'm gonna slap you

[normal sierra]

kek

[sick flower]

w

[visual topaz]

you're saying this with solo qukra

[fluid gulch]

She still managed to piss me the fck off

[barren plank]

Bruh Qu solo really was not that bad

[wanton hatch]

[fluid gulch]

2 blue 4 red

[wanton hatch]

solo Qu wasn't that bad yeah

[barren plank]

In terms of orbs

[sick flower]

can we get overall attacker buff

[fluid gulch]

Wtf am I gonna do with that

[barren plank]

The stagger was worse

[wanton hatch]

nothing

[fluid gulch]

The bears

[visual topaz]

running killing orbs are the worst

[normal sierra]

random zappy zones staggering was more annoying than the orb rng for me

[fluid gulch]

The random lightning zip

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/neymar-gif-13646397

[sick flower]

@wanton hatch what is ss0 bianca raydiance build

[vague nebula]

this is qu

[fluid gulch]

MORE MONI

[wanton hatch]

jean cot wilde

[visual topaz]

whut

[barren plank]

<@&595893856554319873> Money now gone

[wanton hatch]

Yomm also has vid for ss0 I think

[normal sierra]

damn, these moni makers multiply by the second

[simple dew]

[wanton hatch]

Gin, hm moni you got from that

[visual topaz]

500 bucks

[wind hemlock]

Legit ponzi scheme rolling

[vague nebula]

fr. now I hab 5000 usd. splus r3 rosetta here i come

[fluid gulch]

[wind hemlock]

[sonic citrus]

0 bc comrade. That explains how dude fell for it.

[wanton hatch]

damn, I only got 120 bucks

[visual topaz]

in zimbabwean dollar

[normal sierra]

P*nzu scheme

[sick flower]

@wanton hatch what do you say i should do,
sss0 r1 lilith
ss0 r2 bianca
ss3 r1 rosetta

[fluid gulch]

k whel

[barren plank]

Like

Who to reso?

[wanton hatch]

just redeem the moni faster

[sick flower]

do i kill my bianca

[visual topaz]

Ponzu died for our sins

[wanton hatch]

we'll know once patch goes live

[barren plank]

Wdym by kill

[sick flower]

replace by off element

[fluid gulch]

SS0 bonca is benched

[carmine roost]

Look at these mfs

[barren plank]

Im confused

[barren plank]

Let's just wait until the live version comes

[buoyant hornet]

most likely*

[wanton hatch]

complained ss0 bianca dmg being trash

[buoyant hornet]

BUT we can safely say ss0 bianca for dark is no longer necessary

[wanton hatch]

[barren plank]

*AS OF V4

[visual topaz]

wait bianca benched?

[buoyant hornet]

At most she might be a slight increase over ss0 rose + sss lilith + qte bot amp comps

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-chained-up-chained-gif-67266779391248431

[sick flower]

lilith red orb deals the damage of her ult bruh 😭🙏

[barren plank]

As of V4, at SS0 yes

[visual topaz]

naurrrrr

[wanton hatch]

I mean lilith is 3s yeh

[barren plank]

SS0 trash

[visual topaz]

all my alts cooked

[fluid gulch]

Planning for SS3 Rose anyway

[buoyant hornet]

They will never nerf rose enough to make ss0 bianca better than her tbh

[visual topaz]

is S+ still alive

[fluid gulch]

[wanton hatch]

ss3 rose just seems more profitable

[sick flower]

if they do dark is cooked

[buoyant hornet]

She might still be useful but we don't know how exactly they compare yet

[barren plank]

I think SS3 is enough but idk I haven't kept up beta well

Im just going off of what Umbran says

[wanton hatch]

not really, rose carries still and lilith hits like a truck

[visual topaz]

eh welp we'll see with live server

[buoyant hornet]

ss3 and higher bianca should be safe

[visual topaz]

3-4 alts to test and 1 main acc

[simple dew]

can you even go lower than ss bianca

[wanton hatch]

[wanton hatch]

mine s5

[buoyant hornet]

btw did anyone do your wz yet?

[fluid gulch]

whatdapoor

[visual topaz]

S5 Scire is not a character

[wanton hatch]

give me funds plis

[sick flower]

is ss3 ishmael worth

[visual topaz]

i did my wz ahead this time

[barren plank]

Atp I would say no tbh

[fluid gulch]

Fate alr gave you enough funds you phat whel

[visual topaz]

no more snipe in legend

[wanton hatch]

[buoyant hornet]

yeah

[barren plank]

I would only recommend SS3 Ish if you have nothing else to get

[wanton hatch]

Han

[wind hemlock]

Ss3 Nanami still priority?

[barren plank]

Yes

[wind hemlock]

[sick flower]

my dear pyroath is waiting for ss3 but

its going for ishmael

[wind hemlock]

Our lord and savior John Cleese never disappoints

[barren plank]

Would rather SS3 Ish over Pyroath tbh

[buoyant hornet]

I mean the only other alternatives are ss3 lucia and ss3 hanying, whether hanying gets a leap or not will affect that decision but we should already have next patch's beta out by the time we can even claim the selector

[visual topaz]

there is like just Tomy Luca out there

[wanton hatch]

can just save the selector if indecisive

[fluid gulch]

Look mom, I'm on the picture

[buoyant hornet]

dalao hogging the number one spot

[sick flower]

will teddy use the same build on ice when alpha drops? @barren plank

[visual topaz]

watafak who are you

[simple dew]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/24312522/characters should i get nana

[fluid gulch]

12th

[visual topaz]

naur way

[barren plank]

We don't even know if Alpha is ice

[visual topaz]

you're in Turu EU

omg

[sick flower]

considering she is

[visual topaz]

[barren plank]

I still have no clue

She's not out

[fluid gulch]

[barren plank]

I dont know how much damage she'll do

Guessing is pointless

[visual topaz]

pls replace feral

[wanton hatch]

ss0 alpha

[sick flower]

considering that alpha is an op ice attacker would teddy keep the same ice build 🥀🥀🥀

[visual topaz]

maybe ?

[barren plank]

We still cant answer that

[fluid gulch]

Amp Alpha, just for funnies

[visual topaz]

it's not the first time we had team running no dv for wz

[simple dew]

ss0 0 dmg
ss3 some dmg + qte bomb
sss op dmg

[wanton hatch]

light amp? kinda need one rn

[visual topaz]

dark Scire Condelina kekpri Seraphine and lamia Derketo cottie

[sick flower]

isnt wanshi going dv in that case

[visual topaz]

is he applying field shred without Liston?

[buoyant hornet]

watch her ss0 version get booted right on live release

[buoyant hornet]

nope

[visual topaz]

then nope

keep liston

[simple dew]

wanshi leap

[sick flower]

wanshi WILL get leap

[buoyant hornet]

hanying first pls

[simple dew]

let her go

[sick flower]

solon told me guys trust

[visual topaz]

wanshi already free to farm in trade voucher shop

i doubt he'll get leaped

[sick flower]

that doesnt mean he wont get leaped wtf

[simple dew]

alisa

[barren plank]

There's no point in guessing stuff that isn't out yet

[visual topaz]

oh nice counter example

didn't think of her

glacio is so bricked

[barren plank]

Lowk forgot ab Alisa too

[barren plank]

It was my highest invest team and it got fcking shafted

[visual topaz]

glacio with 10s selena timer killing 1 wave vs Liv DF ult 1 killing 40 waves

[simple dew]

i mean she could have been leaped just to make glacio usable

[visual topaz]

Selena always shafted

[simple dew]

glacio concept sucks ass

[barren plank]

I R3d my Selena

[visual topaz]

never put all the eggs in the same basket

[barren plank]

Even tho glacio wz is extremely rare I did it because I used Glacio literally every week to bruteforce IB

[simple dew]

5s nuke bomb with 50x the downtime

[visual topaz]

i only did 3 reso on chars like lilith or vera on my alts

and ish

others 1 reso at most

[barren plank]

Then Rosetta patch game and complete mega-fuccanuked the mode

[barren plank]

She's the only attacker I R3d

All my otrher attackers are R1 or R0

[sick flower]

SSS ice dps teddy build?

[visual topaz]

Joanna Chen

[barren plank]

4Chen 4Joanna

[barren plank]

Build at all ranks

For ice

[gray totem]

liv ice amp moment

[sick flower]

teddy runs general support build for raydiance right?

[visual topaz]

yes

[simple dew]

yes

[barren plank]

4DV 4Guin yes

[visual topaz]

DV guin

[sick flower]

what memory and resonances does ss3 wanshi use in ice

[simple dew]

4dv 4guin

[visual topaz]

Liston CJY

[sick flower]

resonances?

[barren plank]

Atk Ult

For now

[visual topaz]

class if possible

you can keep ult reso on his previous build otherwise

[barren plank]

Oh wait SS3

Um

[visual topaz]

wait

tell me he can deal dmg at SS3

[simple dew]

does ult reso affect his qte dmg

[visual topaz]

i can't check since my LD on all acc are SSS or above

[sick flower]

i have 2 cjy liston builds for wanshi one of them has red/class other has atk/sig which one do i use for ice?

[fluid gulch]

k whel

[visual topaz]

you'd better try both

[gray totem]

he deals dmg just not good dmg

[visual topaz]

well that's better than teddy in raydiance runs

[sick flower]

yes his damage is good

[visual topaz]

[normal sierra]

"Luca"

[barren plank]

His damage is much lower but it's not zero, I would imagine he's still decently contributing to wave progression

[visual topaz]

there is no Cd-3s

nor shred debuff rankup

might feel slow going back to teddy with +3s

might cheese lingya + orbs and 3rd member

[sick flower]

well he has no problem killing waves

[visual topaz]

like lilith/kaleido

[simple dew]

QU SHUKRA

[barren plank]

No

[gray totem]

no

keep that hoe dead

[normal sierra]

q* shot down immediately

[visual topaz]

i only know Villier

[sick flower]

MAN BEING STUCK AT SS9 SUCKS

[barren plank]

What the fck

[visual topaz]

wait next week voucher erset

[sick flower]

i dont have vouchers.

[visual topaz]

yes no that's disturbing

[gray totem]

do roguelites

[normal sierra]

just buy that 9 now, reset doesn't matter

[visual topaz]

buy BP

[normal sierra]

damn, no vouchers at all

[gray totem]

fund bp

[visual topaz]

last time i bought RC for guildie he kiwi

[sick flower]

i have both bp

[visual topaz]

the name was P*nzu

[gray totem]

zamn seems like a good curse

[normal sierra]

buy me , I won't 🥝 , promise

[normal sierra]

poor P*nzu, he will be missed

[visual topaz]

classic gph lore

[gray totem]

i need ss3 teddy tho

[simple dew]

eorry

[gray totem]

girl is homeless

[sick flower]

how much of a support improvement would SSS lilith give over SS3 vera?

for ice

[simple dew]

a lot lot

[visual topaz]

you double atk buff

[gray totem]

he became whel as well

[visual topaz]

during switch in

[sick flower]

damn

[simple dew]

qte cd reset

[sick flower]

but the problem is

[visual topaz]

that's the gap between S0 to SSS0

[gray totem]

qte reset

[sick flower]

i have a full support build for vera

[visual topaz]

just build one for lilith too

[sick flower]

but my support build for lilith has 0 resonances

which is also why my plasma sucks

[gray totem]

weapon reso or memory

[normal sierra]

don't tell me you don't have like 500k blue coins for reso gacha?

[visual topaz]

Sixth you fken whel

[sick flower]

no memory resonances for davincis and guin

[normal sierra]

[gray totem]

memory reso is negligiable tbh

for support

[visual topaz]

[sick flower]

you sure

[simple dew]

the entire character is negligible

[normal sierra]

I mean, not like you need ht on her there, mem reso alone really isn't that costly

[simple dew]

just invest everything into 1

[gray totem]

3s is too big over 5% or whatever memory reso give u

[sick flower]

its not that costly?