📨・meta-help

[solemn berry]

3 more hours

[sick flower]

you are punishing the gray raven every time you type

[buoyant hornet]

wdym

[gray totem]

ult as soon as he reloads the 1st time or until he reloads 2nd time in the circle

[buoyant hornet]

Aren't you doing 3ult?

[gray totem]

i am

[buoyant hornet]

Oh you meant bullet/screen ult lmfao

Drone ult is the hold basic one 😭

[gray totem]

no this is drone ult

[buoyant hornet]

3ult wanshi the middle ult happens as soon as he reloads there's no way to extend beyond that without causing huge issues afterwards

It should always be 24 or 30 stacks

Depending on the swap

[gray totem]

i dont think we are on the same wave length

[buoyant hornet]

Sometimes can be less if you opt to do a one-cylinder bullet ult before the previous swap-out

[buoyant hornet]

Can you describe what exactly you're asking about

Like which point of the swap is this

[gray totem]

after the bullet ult

drone ult rotation start

wanshi reaches 30 stacks and reloads. u can ult here.

or extend the hold ba longer to kill the bear and wait for the 2nd reload to ult

The question is if it was worth spending that extra time on for 2nd reload or just overkill the bear

[buoyant hornet]

You're better off overkilling here

That's a lot of time waste

Although I can see some niche scenarios where it's worth it, and in exchange you only do 1 cylinder on the next bullet ult

To compensate a bit for lost time

[buoyant hornet]

@noble zinc how the hell did you manage to have enough time for a full rot teddy at the end of your run

[fading kestrel]

just nuke things

[gray totem]

hax lao fr fr

[buoyant hornet]

Nuke is built different man wtf

He just casually does this sht and walks away like nothing happened

[pearl solstice]

NUKE HIM

[noble zinc]

you exception

[noble zinc]

Speed up full run

2 stack mostly it is teddy

Or else

Ss3 teddy you saying right?

[spare coral]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/22326351/characters
What do I do next? It appears I've been led astray..

[simple dew]

[wanton hatch]

Nanami in thunderbolt
Rosetta in debut banner
Wanshi from dorms
Lilith from her event

oh look scire

[buoyant hornet]

ye

[buoyant hornet]

I'm scared to ask how they got her

[simple dew]

arrival

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[gray totem]

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[noble zinc]

[gray totem]

vera02

[stray siren]

Based

[exotic fable]

and alisa from dorm for crit

[frank falcon]

Y'all, what's the current meta?

[plain oyster]

https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1456737941811499123

[wanton hatch]

wallet meta

[frank falcon]

Thanks

[solemn berry]

Yeah you're welcome buddy

All me

All me

[feral flume]

Unusual Zeratu being this low slacking even though he’s always at top

[crystal rune]

he did his own ppc this week

markok died

[mighty tusk]

why is that name sounding familiar

[crystal rune]

PRAYGECRY

[normal sierra]

ban the p*lots!

[feral flume]

Zeratu? He’s well known

[feral flume]

Dem

[limber yoke]

marko went startfield

[stray siren]

Pilots are a necessary evil. They maintain a balance in the servers

[crystal rune]

he building factories

[normal sierra]

ye, just like they balanced the twin towers on 9/11

[limber yoke]

mods ban him

[mighty tusk]

I mean you capt nouzen

often see you in top 100

[mighty tusk]

@ Moderator

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198579692316397620/1449135064272076992/i_0_20251211_175221.gif

[feral flume]

Ohh don’t mind me I’m just a f2peasant

[feral flume]

Not anymore next patch IB off element gone fck kurso

[normal sierra]

smh these p*lot supporters wanna ban me

[mighty tusk]

I blame vergil

imagine being BiS for cradle in all teams that can't 11 sec her below

[feral flume]

[opaque ridge]

hi who can pilot me?

[mighty tusk]

Kiwis

[opaque ridge]

shut fossil

[sonic tide]

[buoyant hornet]

I'm still learning some of the newer max invest teams but I can help if needed

[solemn berry]

Wow

Unclao

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1426511259616022654/1455209754900172932/G9VtsmFbMAAKhmH.gif

[buoyant hornet]

hi pwo

[buoyant hornet]

my child

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1010366208891166760.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-haru-urara-umamusume-uma-gif-15673468316957389259

[crystal rune]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-surprised-gif-6670422510059496850

[vague nebula]

hory shitto parent and kids in my meta channel

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[solemn berry]

Get real

[keen meteor]

Me

[crystal rune]

Can you take care of xeno’s when I kiwi

[keen meteor]

ure funny

[crystal rune]

:(

[solemn berry]

Turn that frown 🙁

Upside down

🙂

[crystal rune]

):

[graceful summit]

D:

[solemn berry]

(:

[wanton hatch]

😄

[steady otter]

can you take care of me

[crystal rune]

no

[steady otter]

😭

[rustic spoke]

Who should be the 3rd with pyroath and lilith?

[wanton hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757563597944520784/1290090982158630993/IMG_8961.gif

assuming it's gonna be plasma beam ofc

[rustic spoke]

Ty

[noble zinc]

@limber yoke ss0 bomca habit aaa

Woo 3s gang difference isn't that huge this time

11.5? Seems ss3

[peak halo]

With sss teddy?

[noble zinc]

Yes

2.32.33 332

[peak halo]

Then i sleep more
Demote is the way for me this week

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

I not want sss teddy this week

[noble zinc]

But you whel

Swipe

[peak halo]

2 another whel in my bracket

[exotic fable]

What's the build on nana and bonca here?

[noble zinc]

Sig heisen nana
Bonca wilde darwin

Sig

Teddy with ein

[noble zinc]

Beat em with skill

[peak halo]

Or atleast if jojo not slaccing

[exotic fable]

Oh ho

[noble zinc]

That early 2nd rot bonca staraight bric or easy 11.5+

1hp full slam then ult

*gear before nozzle

[peak halo]

I not have skillduck
Just skill issue

[noble zinc]

copy others homework

[peak halo]

No

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

Not had inner motivation
So no mald

[noble zinc]

Hero fine too
Pushing somay waves alo fun

Ignore score

[peak halo]

Yeah terrorizing hero funny

[noble zinc]

Me 2 hero 32m still can't reatin

Fk whels with 40mil up

[peak halo]

[noble zinc]

@distant wren

[peak halo]

Wai rydle in hero

[noble zinc]

No I mean demotion mine next week cuz

[peak halo]

Ohh thats more valid

[sonic tide]

Who's homework

[noble zinc]

[meager sleet]

whats the rot?

[distant wren]

Deserved fate for pilot

[noble zinc]

Hold blue for 2min

unoptized 254 did still got 5sec left

Teddy after bonca

[meager sleet]

will you upload it?

[noble zinc]

If can get good run or no

Scuffed can give unlisted yes

Let's try a bit more until tomorrow

[meager sleet]

[vague nebula]

why u join wz right after reset

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1458639860343767254.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=ducksmh&lossless=true

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

[sonic tide]

Whel more

[cold walrus]

Me and ew in the same hero bracket

[ripe stag]

I'm gigawashed

[wanton hatch]

[ripe stag]

Should I get SS3 Bianca?
I'll find out in a few days ig

[exotic fable]

Maybe you can consider that after honse got released?

[ripe stag]

Yea

Honse will finally get me a dark tank

Can't believe the last proper dark tank was Tenebrion

6 years ago

[sonic tide]

[mighty tusk]

why ss3 bianca when you can ss3 rosetta?

with base banner

[deft apex]

U mean scire

[sour silo]

You mean a better bianca

[visual topaz]

You didn't play 2 zones

[cold walrus]

Too lazy to play this game

[visual topaz]

[crystal rune]

agreed

[noble zinc]

How we set that keyboard thing

Pc

Which shows input

[crystal rune]

what kb thing

[noble zinc]

Est got that top left

That

[crystal rune]

thats something to do with obs

you can ask him about it

or taishi

[noble zinc]

@cold walrus

[cold walrus]

I use obs plugin

[noble zinc]

[cold walrus]

Lemme check its name

[noble zinc]

does it stay during normal play or just shows on recording

[cold walrus]

On recording only

[noble zinc]

Works with instant replay?

[rotund fox]

Maybe 6 to 7 years ago now

[fresh plover]

For raydiance

First bianca rot 2 ults right

Every other one 5?

Looks good enough to me

[limber yoke]

one tap

[wanton hatch]

[sonic tide]

[noble zinc]

Oi oi don't log lemme get that wave 34

[sonic tide]

Chil lao

[fresh plover]

What is the most optimal rotation for nanami in ray?

Instant ult into full stack ult?

My issue with that is that bianca becomes available right before nanami's second plunge

So idk if there is some dodge cancel tech im missing, but i theoretically lose a second each nanami rotation

[carmine roost]

With SSS teddy yeh

254 with ss3 bonca or 255 with ss0 cottie bonca

[carmine roost]

1 full rot

Lmao

1 full rot and just dip out

[fresh plover]

Full rot being one full stack ult?

[carmine roost]

Yuh

[fresh plover]

Wait, 254 at ss3 but 255 at ss?

[carmine roost]

Then teddy swap yellow + ult1 + hold ba + blue + ult2 and wait like half second till bianca up again

[fresh plover]

How does that work

[simple dew]

sss wanshi or ss3 teddy better for emperor?

[carmine roost]

SS3 uses Darwin
Not enough time with only SS nana

But very possible with SSS nana if that's your case

.

[fresh plover]

Ss3 nana

[carmine roost]

Yeah, not possible for 255 rot with ss3 darw Bianca without SSS nana swap CD

Forced to end with 4th ult

[fresh plover]

My confusion stems from the fact that you should have ray stacks after ult 4 no

[carmine roost]

SS0 can do 255 cuz it uses cottie
So basically no issues

[carmine roost]

You're forced to

No other outcome

.

There's simply not enough time

[simple dew]

[wanton hatch]

[fresh plover]

Oh wait
I just realised what you meant

[carmine roost]

Well at least be happy you can get 5 rot once on 2nd swap

[fresh plover]

I was assuming there was still stuff after 4
But yeah time sure is up huh

Either way i don't have to bother doing it again

Hero wz things

[carmine roost]

Ngl

At least hero feels pretty decent for ray

You don't have to go through 1 hp wave with Bianca ray

[wanton hatch]

eh try both

[fresh plover]

I just really don't like sweating plasma

[carmine roost]

Lmao

I'll never actually play current plasma ever

[fresh plover]

I cannot do plasma without messing up man

It's just impossible

[carmine roost]

Joined too late to learn it now that ray is already out too with just as good score

[fresh plover]

My fingers too slow

[carmine roost]

.

[fresh plover]

So i cant do 5 hold ult rotation

[carmine roost]

more like I was lazy

[fresh plover]

And my first rot is always scuffed for some reason

[carmine roost]

It seems like there's always something that can easily go wrong in plasma

[fresh plover]

This is ice currently at for me btw

[carmine roost]

I still haven't actually play my ice tbh

[fresh plover]

Wanshi sss3

[carmine roost]

Damn

He's strong

[wanton hatch]

waht the

phat

whel

[fresh plover]

I just saved a lot of vouchers, i think ive bought a grand total of 2 battle passes ever

I do get the monthly pass

To guarantee sig for every s-rank

[lilac hare]

the part I circled is already SS3 and for Luna SS6, and next patch got free selector up to Ishmael. Worth it if i'm select Hanying and up to SS3?

[simple dew]

phys washed

[remote fossil]

Yeah? Even rosetta cant live without hanying

[carmine roost]

Meh

"ts needs SS3 hanying" has been exaggerated pretty much as old as slash

At least the good slash

I'm sure you'll be fine with SS0 hanying still for slash

unless you want that legend retain you whel fck

.

[limber yoke]

What the hax

I could never

[clever birch]

This team gud?, im new

[leaden jungle]

f2p
Is it worth getting veronica to SS with ppc skulls if I don't have her sig

I have alisa and she also doesn't have a sig
My vera (which I use for ignition instead of vero) is ss3 with sig

[plain oyster]

Oh no

SS cw

[carmine roost]

No

[crystal rune]

oh no

[carmine roost]

Outdated asf

[crystal rune]

poor soul

[carmine roost]

How much your pain skull actually for vero

It might be better just to save up for next update if you don't have much

[clever birch]

😔

[leaden jungle]

i have 1k

[simple dew]

[carmine roost]

Fair enough ig

I wouldn't personally prioritize Veronica as much, but there's really not much harm at this case

Although you do might consider that we're getting free s rank next update

[leaden jungle]

Does vero need her weapon? And if I get her SS without sig, would she be better than ss3 vera with sig on ignition

[carmine roost]

Might be more useful for that

[clever birch]

Should i grind for new team or something?

[carmine roost]

Gameplay wise no, her weapon mostly provide better overall dmg and more buff through more weapon upgrade

Basically only number difference

[graceful summit]

Oh no cw r1

[leaden jungle]

The s rank selector only goes up to ishmael though 😓
But I guess I won't invest for vero for now
If I ever lose the weapon banner and I get her weapon, I'd probably go for her SS

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

You've sunk a little bit too much resources on a practically no use team (there are many other better team)

Even a full restart is an option at this point

Resources are rare

You don't just get them easily

Don't let the beginner bias think you're rich, it's only a matter of time

[clever birch]

I'll just use this 🙃, i like Lucia alot

[carmine roost]

Fair enough then

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

It seems like You don't actually get to enjoy playing games nowadays anyway

[clever birch]

But what team is the best for beginner?

[carmine roost]

Fire team with Geiravor as carry

Ice team with Lucid Dreamer and teddy spectre (both 100% free)

And dark team with Aegis and Daemonissa next update

[graceful summit]

Aegis what

Arete

[leaden jungle]

Isn't Aegis veronica?
I think you meant Arete

[plain oyster]

[graceful summit]

[plain oyster]

Time to sleep grandpa

[graceful summit]

Vero meta on dark fr

[plain oyster]

[crystal rune]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-surprised-gif-6670422510059496850

[clever birch]

Btw how long can i keep up with my current team (:?

[solemn berry]

Hold on

Who are you using?

[mossy dock]

As we are getting a free S selector next patch up to Ishmael who is worth getting to SS3

Meant to scribble out Luna but forgot

[carmine roost]

Oh yeah that

Shtty naming anyway

[carmine roost]

Nana good as always

Ez boost

[mossy dock]

Okay thanks

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-kento-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gojo-gif-9721827202022859485

For sure

[icy otter]

I'm fraud

[woeful root]

SON 😭 😭 😭

[keen sable]

free selector

me going ss3 nana

[final fog]

Arutimetto spektakuru

Yaaaaaa

Ss3 fraudmael or solacetune?

[steady otter]

hanying age kinda old

[mossy dock]

I’d go for the one with the most useful Ss3 disregarding Luna as she’s already ss3

[steady otter]

i mean meta age

[crystal rune]

windbell will you kiwi next patch

[final fog]

[steady otter]

no, im broke

[crystal rune]

awman

i was hoping to take someone with me

hehe

[final fog]

I wish i knew alpha element so i can invest in supports

I guess fraudmael best option as i have 3s nanami already

[mossy dock]

I saw a leak although I can’t remember if leak are allowed to spoke about in the server

[final fog]

No leaks not allowed

Mods bonk

[mossy dock]

Didn’t think so

[plain oyster]

[rugged raven]

So what’s the optimal value? I only have between SS3 Ish and SS3 Hanying
Ish feels like she might stay longer but SS3 doesn’t feel particularly strong
SS3 Hanying make everything much smoother but she’s also gonna be replace soon since amp and attacker already got updated
I already have SS3 Nanami and Lucia

[carmine roost]

wait till u see what's new in beta

||it would be funny to get ss3 hanying when if she's getting leap after||

[muted zenith]

do we finally have a proper rotation for teddy?

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1244974910049353819.webp?size=48&name=Clueless~1

[carmine roost]

Yea

But maybe?

[muted zenith]

what is it?

also who to choose

SSS pyroath or SS6 Ish?

[rugged raven]

Nah screw Physical team
Im getting SS3 Ish

[carmine roost]

What's your team looks like anyway

[muted zenith]

all SSS

for ice

ayla r2 wanshi r3

teddy r1

[carmine roost]

https://youtu.be/Y0VISTXlmEs?si=1vkdJQLRX15dgGdL
Can probably do something like this

If not legend can expect like 2m less score?

[muted zenith]

oh wait yeah, ii have SSS6 wanshi

[carmine roost]

It would be still 10m range I believe

Uhhh

[muted zenith]

and SSS3 teddy

[carmine roost]

I wouldn't know scoring for that specific invest then

[muted zenith]

np

[carmine roost]

Just try the rotation and see how it goes ig

[muted zenith]

i just wanna know the rotation

oh wait its nuke

[muted zenith]

@noble zinc bro can you type the rot for this?

[carmine roost]

Come out nude

We need you

[muted zenith]

wait

hes using chen jeuyan and joanna?

[noble zinc]

Which part,m

[muted zenith]

not cottie?

[noble zinc]

?

[muted zenith]

wait wdym which part?

[noble zinc]

Teddy or wanshi

[muted zenith]

both?

[noble zinc]

Wait a bit

[carmine roost]

Are you talking about teddy?

[muted zenith]

yea

[carmine roost]

No bruh

Cottie is 100% useless on teddy

She can rot fast already

[muted zenith]

understood

i put jeuyuan

[supple saddle]

is Selena still good as a physical attacker?

[noble zinc]

Teedy goes
HoldBA for blue orb
4x white for red
1ba after red or blue for yellow
Put these as per need don't follow video 1:1
After 3 ukts offield and /3stack last rot before swapping out then teddy can insta ult next swap in
I was doing that using vera like can see

Wanshi goes
3p-holdred- holdba-30stack- ult-double 3p- hold red-spam red 12stack ult

[carmine roost]

She's still the best phys dps yeah

[supple saddle]

okay

[carmine roost]

Tho

[cold walrus]

she herself is good, but her teammates suck

[carmine roost]

There are higher priority character than Selena if you're still lacking the majority of characters tbh

[pallid cypress]

Should i SS3 ishmael?

Since we are getting a selector up to her

[supple saddle]

really? so epitaph and Veronica is bad?

[carmine roost]

Epi what

[pallid cypress]

Were pyroath and nanaknight before or after ishmael?

[cold walrus]

no epitah, hanying. and yes, they're bad

[supple saddle]

oh

[cold walrus]

they're definitely meta but they are weak

[pallid cypress]

I think My nanaknight is SS3

[supple saddle]

can i use watanabe and Veronica on Selena team?

[pallid cypress]

so between pyroath and ish who is the Best SS3?

[crystal rune]

LivGanbatte~2

[pallid cypress]

I would replace watanabe with hanying

Since she is the physical tank

[muted zenith]

isee, thanks

[supple saddle]

oh

[cold walrus]

you can if you don't have hanying. at least he'll provide permanent shred field, but he's still bad as a tank in physical team

[supple saddle]

but i only have wata as a tank,should i get hanying or Selena?

[cold walrus]

well you can't get selena from future selector

you better send your huaxu liink

[supple saddle]

i can get her from this

[pallid cypress]

So regarding My question should i SS3 ishmael then?

Apparently she is going to be busted with rosetta arete

[plain oyster]

[cold walrus]

what s ranks do you have

[pallid cypress]

Everyone

Missing a few old frames but they arent meta

[muted zenith]

this is the best i can do

[cold walrus]

[muted zenith]

@noble zinc

[pallid cypress]

So yeah, i have everyone from gen 2 onwards

[cold walrus]

so why do you have hanying but use wata in physical

[carmine roost]

Ay good job

[pallid cypress]

Im not

It was the other person asking

[muted zenith]

thanks

[cold walrus]

oh wrong person

[noble zinc]

Qte's need to get used to

Start with that

[pallid cypress]

Does SS3 improves pyroath plasma beam rotation or damage?

Or should i just get ish to SS3?

[noble zinc]

Ish

Lucia ded

[stray siren]

Ish

[muted zenith]

she got replaced?

[stray siren]

She's trash

[noble zinc]

It's just fire yes

Still not good

Ion Bianca now

[sonic tide]

||lore accurate||

[muted zenith]

i got ss8 pyroath

[noble zinc]

Off the lemnt

[muted zenith]

should i still sss her?

[noble zinc]

[stray siren]

SSS is ok

Minimum rights

At least she feels playable there

[cold walrus]

ss3 hanying is still a good option, since we'll finally have playable trueslash and she boosts phys too. and there're a probability for her leap, though it isn't 100% info. ss3 ish is ok in nihil, but she gets her full potential on sss rank. it is either han or ishmael imo

[muted zenith]

no

[pallid cypress]

I already have her at SS3

[muted zenith]

let hanying die

never get hanying

screw that bich

[cold walrus]

pre sss lucia isnt useful anymore unfortunately

[sonic tide]

Nah she's extend cuz rosetta deal with it

[cold walrus]

and we'll see wata powercreep soon

[cold walrus]

oka ss3 ish is a good option then

[muted zenith]

isnt rose a dark tank?

[sonic tide]

Yeah but TS Affix

[muted zenith]

ish came out after nanami right?

so i acn choose

sss3 nanai, sss pyroath, ss6 ish

[muted zenith]

skip

[sonic tide]

F

[crystal rune]

TS is so zzz

one tap and max score

[sonic tide]

K lao

[crystal rune]

ermgi

[sonic tide]

Hey that's ur word not mine

[cold walrus]

worgiling it

[crystal rune]

kill worgil

[cold walrus]

you number 0ne worgil enjoyer

[crystal rune]

no thats markok

im just a selena hater

[stray siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167417100592226335/1457328970537373768/Selemployment.gif

[radiant panther]

ok guys, since we have a s-rank box next patch, Im wondering what will I get, SS3 Hanying from 2S?SS3 Ish from 2S,? Pyro 3S from 2.7?

[solemn berry]

Oh right we're getting a free selecgor

Fck man I would've 1000% gotten selena

I'll have to go ishmael tbh

Not for you mrpotato that's me monologuing for whatever reason

[stray siren]

Ish, since Han is in the next round of likely replacement or leap characters

Although Pyro SSS isn't a bad option for fire either

[simple dew]

hanying kinda dead

[slate gull]

who to get from selector

[simple dew]

ss3 ish is a good choice but id pick sss pyro to not waste ss6

[stray siren]

And SSS Pyro in plasma isn't so dead vs 2.1 glow team

[ivory oasis]

anyone got a wz rot for raydiance vid

low invest

[radiant panther]

Vera still carried the team tbh

[graceful summit]

What full team invest?

[simple dew]

low

[crystal rune]

low

[ivory oasis]

low
ss0 all except nanami she ss3

[graceful summit]

https://youtu.be/ni1FEreA9m4

This should work then

[unreal coyote]

Need help

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/11724870/characters whats build physical for chiko boss?

[radiant panther]

sayang walang vero I have nothing to say in this bro setup, we usually run now with vero and maldiest Selena runs to get good score

[unreal coyote]

ang hina ni vero

- Somebody at el.., (2025)

[simple dew]

where vero

[unreal coyote]

I intentionally skip her for liv

[radiant panther]

Ahahahahaha I run 2.322 111 Phys, Sel Han Vero and got like 590k plus iirc, its slighhtly hard and more malder than skych

[radiant panther]

Truly f2p moment

[simple dew]

you should be getting like 610k

even with r0 vero

[radiant panther]

Nah Im good I just need the rewards

[keen sable]

i get that much with ss0 r0 vero

no selena

[unreal coyote]

Soooooo what build bro?

[keen sable]

just play normal physical

u have alisa

[unreal coyote]

Oki oki

[mighty tusk]

There may be ppc runs where selena holds 4 burana 4 patton, hanying 4 chang 4 dv and alisa holding 4 signa 2 cath 2 phillip

[radiant panther]

I will mald when Im done with my 2 month maliscious software removal tool

[keen sable]

how u get that on your pc

in the first place

[unreal coyote]

Sooooo i just use that build

[radiant panther]

its built in yo

[mighty tusk]

Depends on difficulty

Whether it's knight or hell

[keen sable]

just with ss0 vero r0

[mighty tusk]

Also depends if you do double hold dodge selena

[keen sable]

[radiant panther]

[unreal coyote]

Bro switch to linux lol

[unreal coyote]

Okay thx

[unreal coyote]

I never do that

Cuz my selena is kinda weak

[radiant panther]

my college course programming requires the use of windows specific apps

[radiant panther]

you can tho

[unreal coyote]

Hmmmm dang that's suck

Let's move to #💬・pgr-general

Let me finish real quick

[icy otter]

@graceful summit single ult worked better

U won't need a ref

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944802613378035733/976328729821339669/A7DE3942-7CD6-4863-95C2-70189BE26570.gif

@noble zinc u put me in bracket with 3 whales bro

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-gif-677317183063971625

[noble zinc]

Retain it

[peak halo]

i put bomb in bracket where 3 whales

[young badge]

what type of bomb

[sonic tide]

Bombastic side eye

[icy otter]

Get me 10m in ice then

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944802613378035733/976328729821339669/A7DE3942-7CD6-4863-95C2-70189BE26570.gif

[verbal forge]

I still haven't touched it

[peak halo]

i know

[verbal forge]

Is it sitting at 30m?

Im probably just end up doing 20m

[peak halo]

i see

also yeah i do 31m
2nd 25/26m

[gaunt silo]

Disclaimer: Build switching is easier when placing 2-set Memories in top slots. Is this true? ive been putting like cottie and stuff on top which i know loses a bit of attack. is it really significant ?

[peak halo]

but theres who slacc who can more than me

[verbal forge]

Second 25m i see humm maybeeee

[peak halo]

technicly not that important that +10/15 atk if u have like 4 build for a character, more important how u change them effectively

[gaunt silo]

thanks, i dont know why gray raven site says to put it on top smh

[verbal forge]

[peak halo]

its was a old stuff when we not had harmo and comfortable build persents like nowadays
or u minmax in content, where ur characters have like 4 or 5 builds
so endgame stuff

and can save some mats for next character instead build 2 full set for a character than just 1.5 build

[gaunt silo]

i have a couple chars that been using the 2 cottie on top im noob so i tihnk its mostly fine. maybe going forward i swap

[verbal forge]

How brick is ice 2.133

[radiant panther]

we are so close guys, 17 shards to 3S Teddy

[verbal forge]

No need to swap if you already hypertuned it, but don't make changes unless its not the correct character build

[meager sleet]

not so brick, 10m possible i think

or maybe 9m

[noble zinc]

11m

Not bric

[verbal forge]

Is it noob proof

[noble zinc]

[verbal forge]

[noble zinc]

like 112 s cubs enough

[verbal forge]

Send rot

[noble zinc]

https://youtu.be/yLMleedA6z8?si=9K0dSr2MmXT4b_kq

[meager sleet]

I said 9m cuz idk how eu wz

-# also bomb skrill issue

[noble zinc]

I did in eu

[meager sleet]

[sick flower]

so many blue roles

[noble zinc]

369fluc aaa

[verbal forge]

Thank you lao

[noble zinc]

[buoyant hornet]

25m possible this week

Unless one of your teams is scuffed

[noble zinc]

https://youtu.be/VrxCOfalvdU?si=SSAgkJA5Qh1gLO0h

[buoyant hornet]

is ss3 bonka vs. ss0 bonka a huge gap?

[wintry shell]

How good is Rosetta after v3 and v4

[buoyant hornet]

Really good in dark, v3 trueslash was way too strong and they nerfed it to hell in v4 but it can potentially get adjusted again into the live version release

[noble zinc]

2+

Big

[verbal forge]

I'm the scuffed one

[sick flower]

replaces scire and replaces vergil if not overinvest

[wintry shell]

Well great

I don’t own Vergil

But like ultima slash wz is a bit cooked anyways so idk if im ever going to need to use it unless in ppc

[sick flower]

what is your crepuscule invest @wintry shell

[wintry shell]

Ss

[meager sleet]

Thanks
But what's the reason to swap to teddy after bianca instead of bianca>nana>teddy>bianca?

[solemn berry]

4 3

[wintry shell]

But I’m thinking of SS3 with standard

I can do it like next patch but I’m still contemplating

[buoyant hornet]

lmfao at least it'll be better than ion score I'm guessing

[sick flower]

guess who else rosetta is replacing

[wintry shell]

Oh

lol

Replacing Bianca?

already?

cooked

Well I was expecting it cuz ss Bianca kind of weak in dark

[sick flower]

bianca is a really good unit but only on high invest

[wintry shell]

Maybe I get SSS nanami with my standard pull and selector next patch

[noble zinc]

Yes 22.33 glow> 2.32.33 ion

[wintry shell]

Then my lightning team will be so strong

SSS nanami liv and S feral 😂

[noble zinc]

It just gave better progression

[graceful summit]

Wait you leg right
Surely 7m hero is enough

[meager sleet]

Alright I'll try it

[buoyant hornet]

Only if sss lilith, and we still don't exactly know how ss0 bianca comps vs. no-bianca comps compare exactly but we've already seen a test run that's already about on par with bianca team if not better

[sick flower]

you know what would be good now?

[buoyant hornet]

Either way if anyone has sss lilith they basically just won't need bianca unless she's ss3 or more, she's not mandatory anymore

[sick flower]

kuro buffing S and SS bianca

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao imagine

[sick flower]

make her base stats way stronger and decrease her rank upgrade stats

so that at high invest she is same

but she is also good at low invest

[solemn berry]

Mine only ss3

Me brokie

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao kuro bricked her despite our warnings and here we are

[spare imp]

I just made a comeback to this game, should I pull on ayla? And what character should I choose I'm the selector banner

[solemn berry]

I think post rose my team would be 2.323 113

[solemn berry]

Don't pull ayla

She's free

[sick flower]

have they ever did a change like this?

[solemn berry]

She's always been free

[spare imp]

How

[buoyant hornet]

ayla is ancient and useless AND free lol

[solemn berry]

She was free on release through dorm

[sick flower]

you know, the current patch we are in rn released a character that completely replaces ayla dominantly

[solemn berry]

That's when the dorm commissions debuted

[spare imp]

Okay so who to select on the selection banner?

[spare imp]

Who

[solemn berry]

The selection banner doesn't narrow it down that much

[solemn berry]

Teddy Spectre

[spare imp]

Is her banner gone or will come?

[solemn berry]

She's free

[verbal forge]

[sick flower]

teddy: spectre normally replaces ayla: kaleido but since teddy is stronger than qu: shukra at dps, we use teddy for the place of qu instead

[buoyant hornet]

no they never buff characters after their live release with VERY few exceptions, such as capri getting 4 different buffs across a year of patches and pianissimo getting the burana """"buff"""" that no one has found a use for in beta lol

Also techinically empy and capri getting timestop on mech patch is a buff as well

[spare imp]

Now I will check how to teddy later

So I shouldn't pull on anyone in the selection banner?

And what's the best team comp

[buoyant hornet]

What's "selection" banner lol

A rank banner selector?

[sick flower]

is capriccio on par with rozen with the 4 buffs or without the 4 buffs that she received?

[spare imp]

Yas

[buoyant hornet]

PGR expects you to have a functional team for all elements for endgame content

[solemn berry]

She wasn't on par with them

[spare imp]

So pic for best team comps?

Like I used to get back then

[buoyant hornet]

Rn it's either nanami:startrail or vera:geiravor

[solemn berry]

#1438530128912191648 message

[sick flower]

S rank needing SSS to keep up to SSS+ A rank is quite equal to being on par

[solemn berry]

Oops

Sorry

Wrong one Lmao

[buoyant hornet]

Check this channel for FAQ https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1220163911723253760

[solemn berry]

FCK

AHHHHH

[sick flower]

kameron crash out 🙏

[graceful summit]

[solemn berry]

I've crashed out before

[buoyant hornet]

Capri still needed SSS r1 minimum to be usable in most comps lol and to swap, you also needed ss3 r1 daren minimum

[solemn berry]

I remember back in the old days you were talking about this

[buoyant hornet]

Her main issue aside from piss poor damage was her Dark Radiation buff being completely locked behind 4pc seraphine

[sick flower]

so leaped rozen dominates capriccio?

[solemn berry]

No

[buoyant hornet]

Meanwhile rozen/decryptor had that 20% dark radiation built into their base kit

[solemn berry]

If you had the necessary investment she was good enough

[buoyant hornet]

So you didn't need to sacrifice dv or guin

[buoyant hornet]

rozen's leap didn't really do much of anything lol she was just qte bot

[sick flower]

so decryptor > capriccio?

[verbal forge]

Teddy first rot is just blue combo?

[spare imp]

Should I go for starrail's dupe or pyroath?

[sick flower]

i mean sole unit wise was she better support and had better dps

[buoyant hornet]

There's no clean answer, capri was just bad as a qte bot and most people's dark invests didn't allow capri to swap or be sss in the first place

[buoyant hornet]

yeah or sometimes red if breakpoints demand it

[solemn berry]

I mean teddy wasn't an insane improvement over vera iirc

[sick flower]

capriccio vfx so good she had to be ass to balance it out

[solemn berry]

Other than a longer buff in case you couldn't cover it

Cause if you used teddy, you probably had to solo and wouldn't make use of her higher dmg anyway

[buoyant hornet]

There's genuinely no answer for this because dark team was in a really messy spot where it was extremely invest-locked to be able to swap at all

[sick flower]

isnt it like this even now

[solemn berry]

No

[buoyant hornet]

in what way

[sick flower]

like low invest attacker not existing depending on the other members

[buoyant hornet]

If you mean bianca no I'm talking being able to swap altogether rather than solo carry

[sick flower]

oooh

[buoyant hornet]

There's a reason 80% of the playerbase was locked to solo lamia until lilith dropped

[solemn berry]

If you didn't have the necessary investments to swap, you had to run vera or teddy

[buoyant hornet]

You needed BOTH ss3 r1 daren AND sss r1 capri minimum for swap to be even worth

[solemn berry]

But if you did then you could swap yeah

[sick flower]

how good is sss capriccio?

[buoyant hornet]

Which most people didn't have

[sly geyser]

wtf daren and crapi talk in 2026

[solemn berry]

Depends when we're taking

[sick flower]

on her release what was the vision for sss capriccio

[solemn berry]

Minimum invest

Base invest

[sick flower]

like

[solemn berry]

Barely good enough

[sick flower]

were you guys saying she is the worst meta support

[solemn berry]

I wasn't there but she definitely would be

But she's an amp

Minmaxxing

[buoyant hornet]

She was technically broken for the time

Simply because there was only one other amp for months after her and she was the first and only free amp until kaleido

And off-ele back then was huge

[solemn berry]

I was barely there for pre off ele buff

[buoyant hornet]

Also capri was considered really versatile and usable for off-ele teams like physical until luminance leap happened

[solemn berry]

Using cw in fire wz

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lmao

[sick flower]

was she genuinely worth grinding that one cw like gamemode for

[solemn berry]

Ohh yeah I remember watching a few old pgr vids

[solemn berry]

I mean I don't think there was another choice

[buoyant hornet]

yeah lol

[solemn berry]

Unless I'm mistaking her for rosetta

[sick flower]

holy sht

[buoyant hornet]

wdym

[solemn berry]

I remember a loong time ago

Early on when I joined

Someone was talking about how a unit was available for voucher enough to sss them

For most f2ps without much conflict

I can't remember if that was rosetta or capriccio

Or was it alisa

Oh my goodness

Nvm it doesn't make sense don't bother

[simple dew]

eos yourself

[solemn berry]

I think it's Rosetta

You definitely had enough time to sss rosetta from vouchers

[sick flower]

how good was luminance for her element compared to capriccio for her element, could we say that luminance was as good as early amplifiers?

[buoyant hornet]

Well techinically all of them lol but keep in mind capri patch was literally the first ever introduction of vouchers, so there was a really fkn slow start on getting enough for SSS if you were f2p

[solemn berry]

Post leap she was pretty good

[verbal forge]

Thank you

[buoyant hornet]

You had to slooooowly accumulate enough vouchers and you couldn't even buy all 20 discount monthly shards until a good while after the patch

[solemn berry]

So it was probably crapi

[buoyant hornet]

Luminance was basic human rights lmfao meanwhile amps were a better version of what older units already gave

Luminance was, I kid you not, the first ever unit to have a physical qte buff

And of course the crit buff introduction

[sick flower]

so my goat luminance may be washed now but she was insane for her times

[buoyant hornet]

But even liv eclipse had zero qte physical buff (ultralimit torque)

She only had a weird SSS passive where she gives a 10% phys buff to teammates as long as she's not on the field

[noble zinc]

Mostly yes if need then can change

[buoyant hornet]

AKA that buff got disabled when you use her qte lmfaooo

[buoyant hornet]

yeah

[sick flower]

what about crimson abyss

[simple dew]

[solemn berry]

Uh

[buoyant hornet]

what about her?

[buoyant hornet]

Physical today keeps getting botched and fraud allegations but it used to be x1000 worse

[solemn berry]

Wasn't 2b stronger or was that only with 9s and a2

[sick flower]

ive seen many old posts about her being revolutionary type of good on release, real or glaze

[sick flower]

i mean on ca release

[solemn berry]

I think ca might have been good?

Yeah i mean

[buoyant hornet]

Idk she was a strong dps for the time

[solemn berry]

2nd patch ever

She's gonna be strong

Was Lee actually close to her in terms of dmg

[buoyant hornet]

Because she was literally one of the first ever S ranks in the game LMAO

Not much competition here

[sick flower]

isnt the first luminance

[simple dew]

it must have been super fun balding with orb rng and characters that refuse to cooperate

[solemn berry]

Yesh

[buoyant hornet]

hence "one of"

[solemn berry]

Ca is the first non release s rank

With kamui

[buoyant hornet]

Luminance did no damage and was never meant to

[sick flower]

lee released like 2-3 characters before 😭🙏

[buoyant hornet]

CA was the first dedicated dps unit for physical ever

[solemn berry]

No

[buoyant hornet]

Lee was garbage

[sick flower]

worse than the A rank fire attacker?

[buoyant hornet]

That's not really a valid comparison

[sick flower]

why not

[solemn berry]

Isn't this all release units

[solemn berry]

I mean just standard you can't compare them

[buoyant hornet]

One is a useless S rank physical attacker and the other is a useless A rank fake fire attacker who barely did fire damage

There's no comparison points aside from them being bad

[sick flower]

why not

[solemn berry]

Phys and fire

[simple dew]

how were the first charas even obtainable

[solemn berry]

Most of them were free

[sick flower]

the demoted helper here that thinks he is got said blast is used as a physical attacker

so im pretty sure they are comparable

[buoyant hornet]

Good question lol like how did people choose from the other beginner 5 after they've already used the selector

[solemn berry]

Oh blast

Yeah blast was NOT fire

[sick flower]

blast is fire

[solemn berry]

Phys dpd

[buoyant hornet]

huh

[solemn berry]

Wdym

[sick flower]

do you know what blast is

[solemn berry]

I know

[simple dew]

was standard banner a thing at that time

[solemn berry]

She just isn't a fire dos

[buoyant hornet]

she's just like lee they're just called "fire" but most of their kit is physical

[sick flower]

A rank fire attacker

[buoyant hornet]

They're frauds

[solemn berry]

She's a physical dps

The game also calls lotus a fire attacker

[buoyant hornet]

That was just A ranks and there was no S selector, we all got screwed over by random units

[sick flower]

isnt this what elementals did back then, only deal element damage on sig and core and maybe 3 pings

[buoyant hornet]

I got pulse 3 damn times

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

you cannot make this sht up

[solemn berry]

Yeah but they actually did more of their element dmg than phys

You'd call them a fire dps if they actually did more dps using fire than phys

[sick flower]

yeah obviously

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah except those moves that did elemental dmg were their most consistently spammed moves anyway so it largely didn't matter much

Lee literally does physical damage on his qte and ult iirc

Couldn't even proc einsteina

[sick flower]

huh

[solemn berry]

Yeah

Useless for my qte bot

[buoyant hornet]

palefire

[sick flower]

why make a fire character not deal fire damage

[solemn berry]

I mean post leap palefire was okay for me

[buoyant hornet]

His leap was the only reason he became a bootleg fire subdps lol

[solemn berry]

I think he was 60/40

[buoyant hornet]

But before leap he was a phys unit cosplaying as fire

[sick flower]

doesnt his leap turn his attacks into fire like damn holy sht 😭🙏

[solemn berry]

40% fire

Yeah I think my old fire team was

[buoyant hornet]

You tell me, kuro was doing ANYTHING

[solemn berry]

Hyperreal Palefire and Capriccio

I was STRUGGLING 😭

[buoyant hornet]

holy ancient footage wow

[sick flower]

i heard that high invest leap palefire is on par with low invest hyperreal

is it true?

[noble zinc]

[solemn berry]

Uhh

No

[noble zinc]

Dinosaur era footage

[buoyant hornet]

She was busted as hell back then btw

[solemn berry]

Actually

[buoyant hornet]

Getting her from that banner was phat stonks

[solemn berry]

Mayybeee

Wait

No

[buoyant hornet]

You got omega trolled by someone I fear

[simple dew]

crazy how the last rosetta frame was 6 yrs ago

[buoyant hornet]

You've been lied to

egregiously

[solemn berry]

I think they meant ember

[sick flower]

no no they meant palefire

[solemn berry]

Cause post leap high invest palefire was the best no

[buoyant hornet]

Palefire leap wasn't even stronger than starfarer

That should be enough of an answer

[solemn berry]

But then obviously he would've been stronger than ember

So no you just got lied to yeah

[buoyant hornet]

hyperreal with s0 and 4* weapon outdps s+ r3 palefire any day lmfao

[simple dew]

when did they stop making units deal parr phys dmg

[solemn berry]

Palefire was the best fire attacker at max invest pre hyperreal

[sick flower]

WHAT is the purpose of a palefire leap then 🙏

[sick flower]

gen 3

[buoyant hornet]

Iirc the first one was kaleido

[solemn berry]

Nanamech

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

watanabe deals physical damage

[buoyant hornet]

oh right mech was the first

[sick flower]

epitaph

epitaph has PHYSICAL damage

[buoyant hornet]

he was a weird exception lmao

[sick flower]

OH HE WAS AN EXCEPTION?

I THOUGHT HE IS THE LAST

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah idk why

I mean he IS the last

[solemn berry]

He's an exception

[simple dew]

kuso with its consistency

[sick flower]

but he deals physical only on form 1 normal attacks no?

[buoyant hornet]

Remember when mech having gap close on her basic attacks was considered revolutionary

[solemn berry]

Insufferably inconsistent or consistently insufferable

[solemn berry]

No unc I don't

[buoyant hornet]

yeah something like that

[fresh plover]

Probably a lore reason bc it's on attacks that don't matter

[solemn berry]

I never had nanamech

I started oct 26 2023 at 12:53pm

I mean

[buoyant hornet]

Capri had physical, idr if daren did

[solemn berry]

She didn't

[sick flower]

i started at oblivion patch i have starfarer

[buoyant hornet]

If daren was full dark then epitaph was the sole phys hybrid and the last one

[solemn berry]

Not really a good thing

[sick flower]

i like collection so its okay

[fresh plover]

I have been in the server for 2 years longer than you have played the game lol

[simple dew]

i started in epitaph patch and i have garnet

[solemn berry]

Damn unc

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

i started on limpidity patch and i have luminance

[solemn berry]

Do you have kids now

[simple dew]

watas login screen was so aura when i started

[solemn berry]

I actually don't have luminance

[sick flower]

okay og lets take you to your bed now

[fresh plover]

Release player
Or rather the day after because i didn't have wifi day 1

[solemn berry]

I was flabbergasted by balter's

[sick flower]

just say you are day 1

[fresh plover]

It's funnier this way

[simple dew]

day 2 player

[sick flower]

not as cool

[fresh plover]

Fake fan tbh;

[solemn berry]

Idk how I kept pgr

I would've normally quit

I guess I liked the story

[sick flower]

@solemn berry @fresh plover @buoyant hornet which pgr update made you go "i should quit this game"

[solemn berry]

DMC

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

why

[solemn berry]

Just so boring

[simple dew]

dmc was so dry

[solemn berry]

It was the first time in 1.5 years that I missed a weekly

[simple dew]

noone fun to pull no events no 3x

[solemn berry]

And then I quit mid veronica patch

But not because of the game

[sick flower]

dmc patch didnt have anything fun besides the characters and the boss yeah

[solemn berry]

Because of sushi and ezra

[fresh plover]

None
I actually still enjoy it, tho it's sad that i can't concentrate enough to actually get through the story

[solemn berry]

But I'm not gonna get too into detail about it

[sick flower]

did sushi mess with you

did he annoy you

[solemn berry]

It was about the morality of spektakuru'ing nanami

[simple dew]

[solemn berry]

They argued for it

And I was just so in awe at how I could be in a community with people like this

So I left

And I'm back for a bit

[sick flower]

wait i dont understand

[solemn berry]

Until I'm satisfied with what I've done

[sick flower]

were you on team nanami or nah

[solemn berry]

No

[sick flower]

so you had the basic understanding of a human individual and you could understand how annoying sushi is?

[solemn berry]

I just don't bother at this point because arguing with him has no point if he has his mind closed off

Waste of my time to argue with someone who can't open up to the possibility of being wrong

[sick flower]

kameron can you add me

[solemn berry]

No