📨・meta-help

[crystal rune]

Oh

The other other timer

[stray siren]

Imagine the other, a huge square stain

I'll have to keep playing until the whole screen looks like Warzone

[mighty tusk]

ok I guess I'm demoting

[stray siren]

SSS+ players SS0 scores

Nah, idk if he/she is good

[feral flume]

Hes gud alr 26m two zone

[hoary dagger]

last week this guy score 31m only with 444 on all team while nuke score 38m with 333 team

[mighty tusk]

333 team

gib and donate

[stray siren]

Technically SS3 score, I was close

[spiral merlin]

Yea

[crystal rune]

Yeah this person is lowk not very good

[stray siren]

Pilot it

[crystal rune]

No

[stray siren]

Demote pwowq

[crystal rune]

I only do wz on Monday now

[crystal rune]

I’ve already done it once

[stray siren]

[crystal rune]

He ghosted me that week

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362645356432855243.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtMod

[mighty tusk]

he gaps me with invest

[crystal rune]

He gets like ss3 scores at best

[mighty tusk]

what's supposed to be good score/wave to get in ice rn with 2.333 223 (teddy-wanshi-lilith)?

reached wave 30

[crystal rune]

Something something 11m

[stray siren]

That has never mattered

[crystal rune]

Ballter

[stray siren]

Astigmatism

[peak halo]

Live exemple Sss not always equal to high score
Also that scores is how old?

[stray siren]

Almost a year, I think, before sync. When I was still playing on my SSS main account. And my current account was totally f2p

[crystal rune]

How times have changed

[stray siren]

[noble zinc]

Tha bric zone why cant i see 16

[limber yoke]

hax god will surely find a way

[noble zinc]

[stray siren]

[mighty tusk]

ok, hanying is being annoying with her dmg on wave 3

[rough mica]

damn 36

[crystal rune]

36

[sonic tide]

U haxx too in ice

[limber yoke]

not 13m

[sonic tide]

Me not even 12m

[rose yew]

31m?

[wanton hatch]

31 ice

[karmic breach]

What build is the best for teddy as main DPS? I'm not lvl80 yet

[wanton hatch]

just ice in general 4joanna 2chen + 2chen

atk ult

[rose yew]

How does one unlock harmo for 8pc below lv80

[karmic breach]

Okay, thank you,

[peak halo]

then i will even not rentent this week

Unless i brick my rosetts day1

[wanton hatch]

magic

[solemn berry]

Sell your soul to MamboGPT

[cold walrus]

this zone sucks

[crystal rune]

Pretty similar to last sea zone then

[cold walrus]

boss zone?

[crystal rune]

Ye

Slightly worse for 444 it seems

[cold walrus]

I can kill w41 bear. Should be around 17m

Mob placement is terrible

Sure cn will get 18m again

[crystal rune]

Do ray

Wave chaining is kinda good lowk

But there’s this annoying breakpoint idk how to play around

[cold walrus]

Wher

[crystal rune]

2nd bica rot last ult of swap

Sword drops on gear and should kill

And that was the case for my first 2 runs but then after he seems to Ônly live on 0.2x bars left

Idk if it was lucky heisen dmg procc I got the first few times

[true pivot]

oh wow, seems like ss3 teddy glow is better

[young badge]

does rayianca needs dlt?

[true pivot]

found something that works, but gonna be maldy

yes

need dlt

or brick

[young badge]

owhh

pls rot yomlao

[limber yoke]

254

[young badge]

selena_huh

what dose tht mean naivelao

[fluid gulch]

number of ults me thinks

[limber yoke]

unless u have 3s nanami ur force to do 254

[crystal rune]

555

[young badge]

i habe 3s nomi

[limber yoke]

whel

255

[young badge]

5 bianca ult in a row?

[gray totem]

what's midianca invest?

[true pivot]

alrigthttttttt i got it

[crystal rune]

He got it

[true pivot]

2.32.32.3

335

[distant wren]

[true pivot]

i can see why is the rot exclusive to ss3 and above now

that extra ping during jump helps sp i think?

[gray totem]

zamn

isnt this stright up better than ion 2.12.13

[true pivot]

think so

much much better

[gray totem]

dod midianca need dlt?

[true pivot]

yes absolutely

[gray totem]

fk

[true pivot]

i can try a non-dlt one

just dont expect much

[gray totem]

anything is better than nothing

[crystal rune]

11111

[true pivot]

11111 is crazy lmfao

LOL THIS IS HER VERY 1ST SWAP WITHOUT DLT

[crystal rune]

Yeah

You can’t even do first swap without dlt

[gray totem]

naaaaaaaaur

ok what if

[crystal rune]

Needs 9 orbs but you only have 7

[gray totem]

seeshell

[crystal rune]

No

Just hold dodge atp

[gray totem]

damn i can reso her but am i really gonna reso a unit for only 1 zone and the fact she might not even be better than my current ion

[solemn berry]

Pssy

Do it

No balls

[gray totem]

my ion is like 22.33 122

my raydiance would be 22.32 120

[open verge]

what's bianca memo?

[gray totem]

how about u get some balls and start playing the game

[true pivot]

dltless

still testing, i think i can go 8m

[solemn berry]

I can't

[gray totem]

that's not that bad

im confused about 1 thing tho

is there no raydiance zone?

[true pivot]

nope

glow still stronger

[gray totem]

huh

maybe kamui really is glow breaker

[true pivot]

ill kms

[peak halo]

[solemn berry]

No leaks

[peak halo]

332.1 donno which should able to do

[gray totem]

there is leaks? send

[true pivot]

bonkas gets staggered bruh

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pipe-burst-gif-13402270

[noble zinc]

[median shell]

[solemn berry]

Sorry

Too big of a leak

[true pivot]

2/3/3/1.5

dltless

[gray totem]

that's pretty good

Gib rot

[limber yoke]

i think ray can w33 probably

[true pivot]

now that i think about it, its better to just 2332

dont even bother teddy swap

[peak halo]

[true pivot]

do note this rot might not be accurate since its coming from me:

swap > 3p > dodge > 3p > hd till full core > release > hb > 3p during jump > 3p > ult
3p > dodge > 3p > dodge > hb > 3p during jump > 3p > ult
3p > swap out

swap in > 3p > dodge > hb > 3p during jump > 3p > ult
3p > dodge > 3p > dodge > hb > 3p during jump > 3p > ult
3p > dodge > 3p > dodge > hb > 3p during jump > 3p > ult
3p > swap out

[simple dew]

how the heck do you do 620k veronica

[true pivot]

im planning to ignore teddy's first swap as well

hmm

might get more time with bianca

9.1m i did ba weaving

but seems like it doesnt work on dltless due to a tiny bit of extra damage?

works weirdly

[vital nova]

does current wz have plasma or ray zone? which is better?

[true pivot]

i needed to ba weave for sp so its goofy

[young badge]

whats teddy rotata for ray

[true pivot]

swap in > 2x y > swap out

[noble zinc]

11mil to go

[limber yoke]

u hax god

[noble zinc]

[limber yoke]

sister left x5 hp at the end of 254

[noble zinc]

Is 6 ukt possible at once

*rots

[young badge]

stop hax

[limber yoke]

6 ults?

[noble zinc]

I mean rots

Like 246

[limber yoke]

need 3s nanami

for extra 1 ult

[noble zinc]

Speed up need

Later let's see ref will try

[limber yoke]

u da ref

[noble zinc]

Bonca takes so much energy am not touching cuz

[gray totem]

nanami swaps right?

[young badge]

is there any ss3 teddy ray wz ref?

[true pivot]

ye

otherwise bonkas cant sustain

[peak halo]

Do light its fun

[woven oracle]

Hi guys i just came back

After half a year

[solemn berry]

I think I

[woven oracle]

I missed veronica and liv am i cooked

[solemn berry]

I remember you

[woven oracle]

I mean uh

[woven oracle]

Hi

[solemn berry]

Veronica kinda

[woven oracle]

I can get veronica from selector

[solemn berry]

Mostly for burn

Liv is a big deal though

[woven oracle]

Idk how am i gonna get liv

[solemn berry]

Kuro made a random bad decision

To make Liv a non permanent character thing

[woven oracle]

What does that mean

[solemn berry]

She won't be on standard banner or go to arrival banners

[woven oracle]

That's ass

[solemn berry]

She'll only appear in her own kind of special banner

The phylotree banner

[woven oracle]

Is the char rn obtainable through tickets?

[solemn berry]

Liv? No

[woven oracle]

Nono

[solemn berry]

It's Teddy's patch

[woven oracle]

The 21 i think

[solemn berry]

Teddy is free

[woven oracle]

Teddy mb

I THOUGHT IT WAS 21

[solemn berry]

I don't know how because I also haven't played in 2 months

[woven oracle]

Damn

[solemn berry]

I think teddy got another frame too early

[woven oracle]

Okok here's the last question

Watanabe sig or luna sig

[solemn berry]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-smh-laughing-laugh-gif-16005642344163940773

[peak halo]

[solemn berry]

Watanabe might be about to die

Kamui is rumored to be fire tank

Well not tank

They have a new class which is breaker

Which is better tank

How? Don't ask me I don't know the details yet

[woven oracle]

Damn a lot happened within 121 days

[peak halo]

If want onfield luna then luna sig
Also luna leaped so she is good now

[solemn berry]

Yeah we actually had a schedule of characters now

We know exactly who's next

Teddy
Rosetta
Nirvatia
Kamui
Alpha

[woven oracle]

is pgr completely lined up with cn now?

[solemn berry]

Yes

[mighty tusk]

yes

[woven oracle]

Yoo kamui what the hell

[solemn berry]

I KNOW RIFHT

[peak halo]

Only a 2 hours delay

[woven oracle]

I thought that guy was gone for good

So luna sig i guess yes?

[mighty tusk]

I wonder if kuro wants kamui to be fire breaker but benching pyroath in the meta slot as a result

[solemn berry]

Not yet

[woven oracle]

Pyro too recent

[solemn berry]

You want to prioritise new units

Like you always have

[mighty tusk]

not really

[solemn berry]

She's going to die if Kamui releases

Unless Kamui is utter sht

[mighty tusk]

pyro is the worst of the "modern" attackers rn

[woven oracle]

i mean kamui is gonna release in like 3 months?

[gaunt silo]

i tried pyro in trial it gave me a headache

[mighty tusk]

not counting qu

[woven oracle]

2nd worst

Qu is ass

[peak halo]

Qu not modern

[crystal rune]

qu is not modern

[woven oracle]

Oh yeah veronica or qu

[solemn berry]

Wow I'm okd

[crystal rune]

old hag

[woven oracle]

Selector banner

[peak halo]

She 2.5 unit

[solemn berry]

Though can we even consider qu?

[mighty tusk]

I dont count qu, she does not have qte nukes nor off field dmg

[solemn berry]

She's not even on the team

[woven oracle]

Is wanshi the dos

[crystal rune]

mhm

[woven oracle]

Dps

[solemn berry]

No

[crystal rune]

no

[solemn berry]

Teddy is

[woven oracle]

Can i still get teddy y'all

[solemn berry]

Yes

[mighty tusk]

wanshi is subdps

[woven oracle]

My ice team is cooked

[true pivot]

ohoho i missed the last ult, i used eins this time

[woven oracle]

Who's ice tank i forgot

[crystal rune]

when do ray on xeno's

[mighty tusk]

nah, as long as you have teddy and wanshi, you have the ice team

[solemn berry]

Wanshi

[mighty tusk]

qu is not in the ice team

[woven oracle]

What's the team

[true pivot]

lazy

[woven oracle]

Teddy wanshi and

[solemn berry]

Teddy Wanshi and another amplifier

[woven oracle]

Ish?

[mighty tusk]

teddy-wanshi-any amp

[crystal rune]

grr

[solemn berry]

No

[carmine roost]

What team

[mighty tusk]

ish is useless in the team

[woven oracle]

Ok feral then

[solemn berry]

Literally every amp except for ish can work

[woven oracle]

I forgor how ish works

[solemn berry]

[mighty tusk]

preferrably those that can hold weap resos

[woven oracle]

Lowkey

[solemn berry]

You don't need to know much

[mighty tusk]

needs an attacker + amp/tank to have any role

[woven oracle]

What element is the new bianca again

[solemn berry]

Dark

[mighty tusk]

dark

[true pivot]

2.32.32.3 glow

[solemn berry]

Attacker

[woven oracle]

That's the last char i got

[solemn berry]

With raydiance attribute

[carmine roost]

Wait that's glow?

Damn

[solemn berry]

Is glow not raydiance?

[carmine roost]

SS3 nana op

[mighty tusk]

he's not talking to you

[woven oracle]

Wait should i just use the weapon selector as fodder or are there any weapon worth getting

[mighty tusk]

who's sig weap dont you have?

[solemn berry]

I realised the moment before you said thay

[woven oracle]

Luna and wata

[mighty tusk]

luna for now

[woven oracle]

Does wanshi count

[mighty tusk]

luna has a leap

[woven oracle]

Wanshi yes

[mighty tusk]

wait

[mighty tusk]

on second thought maybe wata

[woven oracle]

How about wanshi

[mighty tusk]

wata is used for fire and darkflow.
wanshi works too

[peak halo]

Dark flow without liv

[woven oracle]

I don't got liv mate

[solemn berry]

Darkflow

[woven oracle]

Let me check my roster rq

Those double patches did me well

[mighty tusk]

blame kuro for trying to milk future alpha frame by making the limited banner just so alpha can go there

[peak halo]

I hope new alpha not lightning

[true pivot]

i hope alpha a rank

[peak halo]

Ez s+
And i will start do arank guild battle

[solemn berry]

too high

b rank

Can only be ranked up with pulls

[peak halo]

I only play if discord therey

[peak halo]

Brs

[solemn berry]

Who's brs

[woven oracle]

Ok i got the sig of every relevant char except wata, wanshi and luna

Ok wanshis weap isn't here

[solemn berry]

Luna, Wanshi, and Luna, got it

[woven oracle]

My bad

[peak halo]

Any of the luna is wata

[solemn berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1452116643047149740/32EEB1992E36574DC350586D43AEC76F.gif

[woven oracle]

Is this worth

[mighty tusk]

very

[peak halo]

Yes

Ss3 luna is big

[mighty tusk]

luna leap too

[woven oracle]

I got her s1 bro

[mighty tusk]

base s?

[solemn berry]

Damn

[mighty tusk]

then auto ss it is

[woven oracle]

Yeah

[peak halo]

Sss bigger
Sss3 ecelent
Sss+ good stoping point

[woven oracle]

Ok so

Wata sig or luna

[peak halo]

Have pyro and geiravor

[woven oracle]

Yes

Ss and Sig

[mighty tusk]

wata then

he'll have immediate use

[peak halo]

[woven oracle]

My lunas gonna be ass for a while then

[mighty tusk]

void is rare content anyway

it's why my ishmael doesnt have her cub yet

[woven oracle]

Is wata more recent

[peak halo]

Get wata
Put her on 4alphone 4dv
And vera can go 4shakes 4 cottie

[solemn berry]

No

[mighty tusk]

2nd oldest unit

[solemn berry]

Wata is just goated

Wata prio over qu

[mighty tusk]

feral > wata > qu

[peak halo]

Best budget tank rn

[solemn berry]

Oh right feral exists rn

I keep calling wata the oldest meta unit

[peak halo]

Yeah sadly

[solemn berry]

Feral is so damn old she's forgotten

But she has a replacement Ishmael so she doesn't stand out like Scire

[peak halo]

Ish exist

[mighty tusk]

more ish is just plain better

[woven oracle]

What harmony

[mighty tusk]

can abuse liv's off field more

[mighty tusk]

for?

[woven oracle]

Wata

[mighty tusk]

if wata then 4 alphonse 4 dv

vera would hold 4 shakes 4 cottie if she has r1 sig

[woven oracle]

Oh damn she's already on that set

[mighty tusk]

vera is main dps after all

[woven oracle]

Not fully hypertuned

I'm broke

[mighty tusk]

atleast hypertune the bottom first

[crystal rune]

Free money

Oh no it’s from the Logan pawl

He gonna scam me

[mighty tusk]

<@&595893856554319873>

[woven oracle]

It is uesy

Yes

[mighty tusk]

atleast send the link to kuro hq for the mess they made with rosetta

[true pivot]

kuro needs mone

[woven oracle]

Is this a clan thingy

[mighty tusk]

Nah, no need for guilds for that

[mighty tusk]

Kuro needs their data hacked

[woven oracle]

What is this

[mighty tusk]

And deleted

[woven oracle]

Damn i thought zzz was peak

[mighty tusk]

Just click on nodes and start fighting

[crystal rune]

grr

[true pivot]

LMAO

@gray totem @carmine roost

dlt 335 rot + eins

[peak halo]

10m when?

[true pivot]

that 3s teddy territory lmao

[crystal rune]

washed

[true pivot]

gonna touch you

[crystal rune]

finally

[mighty tusk]

gayge

[gray totem]

zamn

[carmine roost]

My haxlao

[true pivot]

feels really weird

idk if 335 is the better rot

but im scoring well so far

[carmine roost]

Certified ss teddy right there

[true pivot]

much more than 245

[carmine roost]

Well if you ask me

[true pivot]

this completely overthrows ion

its insane

[carmine roost]

353 with SS bonca and SS teddy somehow did it better for me at lower invest

Than 335 that I found initially

[true pivot]

hmm

[carmine roost]

Wait really?

[true pivot]

maybe i should try that?

[carmine roost]

I mean you're using cottie rn right?

[true pivot]

nope

[carmine roost]

Ah

[true pivot]

im using wilde darwin

[carmine roost]

Now I can't say for sure

Don't think you'd have orbs for 5 rot 2nd swap with darw

Cottie makes orb management thrown out to the window

[true pivot]

i did ba weaving on 1st and 3rd rot on 335, so i can just do the same ig

[carmine roost]

Perhaps ig

[carmine roost]

How much does it gap ion?

[true pivot]

uhh

500K?

my max was 9m ion i think

unless we are talking about this week

then its like...

[carmine roost]

I still have 0 idea how ion scales to gay cuz I couldn't find a similar ion invest with my gay as comparison

[true pivot]

900k

[carmine roost]

Holy shi

Crazy

[true pivot]

this week i only got ion to 8.6m

i didnt bother to go further

[mighty tusk]

that's with ss3 pyroath right?

[carmine roost]

Is this means ion dead once you have the same gay invest?

[true pivot]

ss3 ye

2.32.33 ion < 2.32.32.3 glow < 2.32.33 glow

[graceful summit]

Oh man

Ion deadge

It's not even sss teddy

Which should be more common onwards since free

[carmine roost]

I never have to learn ion

Yaay

Suck that

[true pivot]

i dont know yet

[mighty tusk]

it's quite funny that selena somehow got an update with her kit than pyroath who badly needed adjustment

[true pivot]

dont be so sure

even tho i find glow to be better

dont take personal opinions to be true

@carmine roost it might be close, im not too sure.

[carmine roost]

I have like 0 other sources to hold on

So I'll hold my dearest to it

Nuke too busy doing ice

[peak halo]

So truly just better to light it to me
I seen skgumball get 9m with 332 lightning

[carmine roost]

[peak halo]

So surly my tap 10m+

[carmine roost]

Ion is pain in the ass anyway

[true pivot]

gumball is a whel

[peak halo]

Know him
I also had full 3s lightning

[true pivot]

aight gonna post my glow run

idk if its good

i just random bs go

[peak halo]

Like always

[carmine roost]

[true pivot]

hopefully i cooked

idk

[carmine roost]

Thanks

[true pivot]

i dont think my run will help ur ss0 lo

[carmine roost]

Nah

I can make up something useful from it

Just trust in ur run

We're learning everything from scratch now

Any form of reliable source is a big help

[true pivot]

nuh uh

whats a self-confidence

wait

i think i could have gotten 10m if i applied eins on the last wave lol

thats crazzzy

[solemn berry]

Gumball is my cuber dalao

I can be consistent sub15 if I can get better at my cross

I think I'm already good though I just have sht tps

[exotic fable]

Gumball is wehl?

[lilac hare]

How to skip 3 difference orb for quick ulti Teddy SS0? And Teddy SS0 can solo Emperor if Wanshi R1 and Lilith 3S R3?

[plain oyster]

Just hold ba > blue > click ult

Also teddy can solo yeh

[peak halo]

Only if nanami liv or vera

[exotic fable]

ult > white > white > white > dodge > ult

[normal sierra]

that won't kill emperor hell with ss0 bear

[plain oyster]

[peak halo]

Free money here too
<@&595893856554319873>

[meager sleet]

Thanks for the funds

[exotic fable]

Free money every week

[fluid gulch]

MONEH

[woven oracle]

Do you cube

[lilac hare]

Oke... good score for leader WZ with Teddy SS0 R1, Wanshi 3S R1 and Lilith 3S R1? First time trying with Teddy.

[plain oyster]

[graceful summit]

I mean, ik leader but

You can do more

[lilac hare]

Yeah.. i just using full ulti with 3× stack for Teddy (2× ulti) for this

[graceful summit]

Don't do 2 full stack on teddy if sss wanshi

Do 1 stack then 3 stack

To not waste so much team cd

Especially since teddy still ss

[peak halo]

Leader w50 minimum
Specially 3s wanshi

[lilac hare]

Use yellow orb for this 1 stack?

[graceful summit]

Blue

[lilac hare]

No, for first ulti

[graceful summit]

What

[lilac hare]

I want say yellow orb or white orb before first ulti, but ty

[lilac hare]

Oke... hold BA for blue orb and release.

[graceful summit]

Why hold ba a second time

You have to stop holding ba when the blue orb comes out

Then tap blue

Then you can ult

[plain oyster]

Double blue dmg trust

[fluid gulch]

Bro thought he can 3 stack blue

[plain oyster]

[crystal rune]

huge

[graceful summit]

If not release hold ba properly then it's gonna do it again

[lilac hare]

Just trying for this, i can learn about this if have times and improve score WZ

[barren plank]

You did 2 Hold BAs

[simple dew]

hold ba, too many, you did

[lilac hare]

Ik

[rich zealot]

Raydiance is pretty good

[peak halo]

[oblique cape]

who among these do you recommend? I'm considering watanabe or nanami star rail since my fire and lightning teams are lacking

[spiral merlin]

seems like no brainer nanami to me
hanying is old and not a priority
luna is $1

wata also old and not a priority

[oblique cape]

alright, thanks for the heads-up

[cold walrus]

zamn no 18m this week

mob placement isn't good

[crystal rune]

Oh damn

Better than last last last last week

Now do 20m ray

[cold walrus]

yessir (no pakyu)

[crystal rune]

wtf

[true pivot]

@carmine roost
https://youtu.be/T7aSGp6BZ2s

[gray totem]

zamn

[carmine roost]

Sick

Thanks

I think I found a way to get 8m in my run too instead of 7.899m rn with 223, but I'm kinda too tired to mald properly lol

I can't be slow otherwise no 5th ult finish

[steady otter]

nice thumbnail

is that solon ?

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

[true pivot]

yep

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

[crystal rune]

So hot

[true pivot]

im too tired to match the skin tones

waiter nanami is sending me tho

that fk ass grin

[keen sable]

is it darwin wlde on sss bianca to?

and is blue orb better then atk on top slot?

[barren plank]

Startrail easy choice

[simple dew]

raw

solon armpits 🤤

[crystal rune]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-true-sandbina-true-sandbina-truth-nuke-sandbina-kirari-gif-10551132383944043409

[plain oyster]

[wanton hatch]

[simple dew]

[median shell]

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

Also no mobs
So why scared

[slate gull]

wow no mobs?

[noble zinc]

Am exhausted
Don't want to mald just

[buoyant hornet]

Trust me by current day standards raydiance is actually really horrid without SSS teddy, BUT it can at least be better for someone who may lack a team for the other zone that's paired with it

[buoyant hornet]

nergi do you still play

[crystal rune]

Barely

[buoyant hornet]

this thumbnail is kinda perfect

[rich zealot]

I prefer it to my plasma team. And SSS nanaknight does actually make it a lot bearable even without SSS teddy.

[buoyant hornet]

damn ripge I'm sure you'd be extremely excited to come back and mald s+ dark after rosetta :clueless:

[peak halo]

Nergi kiwi before me😭

[slate gull]

go casual or kiwi

[buoyant hornet]

he went from newbie to dalao way too quickly he already spent all his PGR lifespan in one go

[peak halo]

Thats fair

[buoyant hornet]

Unless kuro makes the game bearable again I'll prolly get kamui or alpha and dip

FREE MONI

[peak halo]

<@&595893856554319873>
Free money

[buoyant hornet]

@visual topaz

oops

[peak halo]

[buoyant hornet]

Already nuked

[slate gull]

i havent topped up in the game for months now. once my BC disappears i go back to kiwi mode too

[crystal rune]

Yeah maybe like 1 run

[buoyant hornet]

nergi pls don't

[crystal rune]

I really don’t want to play pgr anymore

[buoyant hornet]

If you play that team you'll end up quitting forever

[carmine reef]

Then why is nuke still wrecking me

[lusty tendon]

Thanks for the free money

[buoyant hornet]

I was talking about nergi but nuke already seems tired this week too lmao

[wanton hatch]

you took it all for yourself

[buoyant hornet]

play ss0 dark instead, we're free from bonka

[crystal rune]

Nuke said he would kiwi weeks ago and never did

Hes pulling a rydle

[buoyant hornet]

no more bonka

[spiral merlin]

playing ss0 is a faster way to kiwi

[fading kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/liv-67-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-8981632697621456305

[crystal rune]

Ss0 bica is fun

Wait no ss3

[slate gull]

they need a little push to cross that kiwi bridge

[buoyant hornet]

No bonka = more fun

Y'all stay safe tho

[spiral merlin]

i fear more bianca = more fun (sss only)

below sss bianca is just sad

[peak halo]

I guess he meant kiwi on malding
He casul

[sick flower]

where is my 50$ steam gift card by elon musk and logan paul and mrbeast 🤑🤑🤑

[buoyant hornet]

sss bianca is specifically why I'm shitting on her

[crystal rune]

Nah hes still Malding 3h daily

[buoyant hornet]

sss bianca way too stressful and boring at the same time

It's impressive how horrible it is

[spiral merlin]

meth

i enjoy it

[sick flower]

how good is sss bianca compared to sss lilith at dark dps?

[crystal rune]

Psychopath

[cold walrus]

sss bianca is a reason why i want to kiwi

[slate gull]

the difference is your sanity

[buoyant hornet]

I'm glad SOMEONE does because the whole 5ult thing is just a horrible concept to me lmao 😭

[cold walrus]

her gameplay is horrible

[spiral merlin]

my issue with dark is lilith

[cold walrus]

and sss rosetta passive is horrible too

[carmine reef]

Can we retroactively leap qu so that i can get her sss and then buff her by 5x so i can use her
Cause sss qu is the juice that sss bianca wishes it were

[crystal rune]

My issue with dark is Litetally fcking everything now

[buoyant hornet]

Other ult spam characters tend to have some actual substance behind their ult spam

[peak halo]

I just not like
Everything can go wrong, by a 1ms slow done

[buoyant hornet]

Bianca is just ult spam for the sake of ult spam, no questions asked

[sick flower]

huh sss rosetta wont be worth?

[carmine reef]

It's strong but it's terrible for the game

[buoyant hornet]

It's like nanami lightning except annoying to execute and instead of 5 basics you do 5 ults

[spiral merlin]

5ult bianca takes skill to do that i like but i hear theyre making it easy

[buoyant hornet]

that'd genuinely be cool

[cold walrus]

qte stacking is very funy passive

[sick flower]

still better than scire so its okay

[cold walrus]

spam qte win

[carmine reef]

Idk if it is okay

[buoyant hornet]

Ye mechanical skill is cool but beyond that it's pretty braindead unfortunately

[peak halo]

[carmine reef]

It sets a precedent and a direction that kuro is taking the game, that none of us like

Many dalaos planning to quit on rose patch just bc of that

[sick flower]

kuro please do a major change on last minute before update 🙏

[buoyant hornet]

I think this is my first time seeing people collectively decide that whales are the ones getting shafted by a new character

[peak halo]

6pc dv and qte stacks just broke the game in my sperpective

[carmine reef]

Everyone is getting shafted

[wanton hatch]

who am I gonna copy homework from when dalaos quit

[buoyant hornet]

they just want the extra cash from broken passives on a new class they definitely don't care

[fading kestrel]

sperpective

[sick flower]

huh pgr is actually facing eos risk now?

[slate gull]

from paper

[crystal rune]

Always has been

[wanton hatch]

[carmine reef]

The whales get shafted cause they have to deal with it for giga score, the poors get shafted because its giga score gap

[graceful summit]

Be the dalao fr

[wanton hatch]

no you, I copy

[buoyant hornet]

I mean she's pretty damn strong at ss0 but I have a keen gut instinct that she'll be extremely janky in warzone with how her moves look

[distant wren]

a dalao with his 1 hour guides

[carmine reef]

Doubt it
Casuals dont care about these conversations
But you'll find meta spaces like this even emptier than it already has become

[wanton hatch]

[distant wren]

[wanton hatch]

not watching all that

[slate gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1242497655737679973/god2-2.gif

[sick flower]

they shtting on bianca in general

[peak halo]

Ohh sorry
My eyes

[buoyant hornet]

^^^^^

[wanton hatch]

eh let them

[buoyant hornet]

The meta community has been really dying and rosetta is putting one more big nail in the coffin

[distant wren]

well who cares about catering to meta players when they can make money from the casuals right?

[fluid gulch]

We don't even get new dalaos

[cold walrus]

it's not even a joke. that's true

[carmine reef]

We got new dalaos

[distant wren]

oh wow a selena hater

that's based

[slate gull]

just go casual or kiwi

[gray totem]

nergi is on that mh wilds grind

[distant wren]

[carmine reef]

Just that this shi is making even the new dalaos burn out

[crystal rune]

What

[peak halo]

So i free rentent legend

[slate gull]

yes

[buoyant hornet]

It's really stupid tbh because all they needed to do to make warzone feel a bit easier for casuals is just put a nanami qte on rose and call it a day, the whole qte slop thingy is a profoundly outlandish idea that no one ever asked for LMAO

[distant wren]

i mean yea

that is unfortunately the truth

[buoyant hornet]

Who told them that anyone wants that

[crystal rune]

Oh I can’t even play wilds

Polygon mess

[simple dew]

the rosetta situation is miserable

[distant wren]

they've been slowly ruining meta lmao

the wz rework is so stupid

[carmine reef]

Solon propaganda to retroactively make bonka more useful by boosting her qte nuke usage

Surely

[distant wren]

literally everyone can be on hero now

[spiral merlin]

does rose really not have nanami qte

[fluid gulch]

But fr, who am I gonna steal homework from now

[distant wren]

remember when staying on hero was a struggle?

[buoyant hornet]

they had 4 whole weeks to go back to the drawing board and change it but nooooo

[gray totem]

same i guess

u on that rise grind then?

[gray totem]

surely they gonna rework it again

[sick flower]

kuro add new rank

[crystal rune]

I haven’t played any mh in like 2 months

[weary hedge]

What happened

[crystal rune]

I was going to the other day but then I got lazy

[gray totem]

we need a new rank or something

[crystal rune]

Remove legend

[fluid gulch]

No please

[buoyant hornet]

rosetta SSS passive is kind of a horrible precedent for the game's direction and we're shitting on it

[distant wren]

we're approaching 2 years since the rework patch in cn (wanshi's), i doubt they'd do anything

[weary hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[carmine roost]

Honestly, the repeated rant conve about bonca beta also takes part in the equation

[fluid gulch]

I don't want to become leader resident

[gray totem]

does cn like the rework?

[distant wren]

idk

[carmine roost]

Things are already miserable, and it helps absolutely nothing

[simple dew]

sss = basically infinite qtes
ss0 no rights
no affix shred

[simple dew]

and can hold attacker reso

[weary hedge]

What did they do to her?

[sick flower]

why does kuro want to delete an entire skill based core mechanic out of the game?

[spiral merlin]

no affix shred is okay because shes just an affix attacker

[carmine roost]

And it still continues as we speak

[carmine reef]

I got into hero for the first time off the back of using lamia solo in both zones, immediately after her release bc no one else knew how to play her, I was really proud

2 years later, I bet I could still be in hero playing solo lamia in all zones

[buoyant hornet]

imagine you're playing warzone but now it's guild battle instead with qte slop

[distant wren]

cause there are people who want to pay money and get top score without effort
kuso simply wants to please em

[simple dew]

yea but that makes attackers even more fraudulent since breaker can be an affix dps

[crystal rune]

Allat money to still get sht scores

[sick flower]

that sht qte so fast you cant swap 😭🙏

[buoyant hornet]

yeah they already added so many ways to make qtes better OR make their management less hellish, no one needed this breaker stuff

[distant wren]

the whel malders are in way smaller number than the whel casuals

[spiral merlin]

attackers have always been fraudulent

[simple dew]

even more now

[distant wren]

[simple dew]

sss attacker or skip

[fluid gulch]

kiwi

[buoyant hornet]

lmfaooo yeah

[peak halo]

Yeah 1% of uppc in ib usually

[spiral merlin]

theres a reason why theres ss in ass

[slate gull]

ratio might be 1:25

[fluid gulch]

They need to rework ib istg

Make it actually worth to play

[weary hedge]

So does her qte additionally buff on field member's damage by the % damage lost from no affix shred?

[carmine roost]

Like damn I'mma be real honest here.

if one really hates what direction the game is heading right now

Dropping it wouldn't be so hard wouldn't it, like why some of mfs just keep staying while can't stand the game itself

Making things worse for those who want to stay

[distant wren]

or even bigger lmao, once in a while i still see a sss acc that i haven't seen before

[buoyant hornet]

I wonder if rosetta was just released as an emergency exception to replace vergil or if they plan to later allow units to have separate classes for their affix vs. main ele

[carmine reef]

You dont lose affix shred, you bring hanying still (ugh)

[simple dew]

no shes just made to replace vergil since she cant replace hanying

[carmine roost]

It looks bad

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao imagine kamui being fire breaker and glacio amp

[carmine roost]

But damn, I just want to play the game while it lasts

[spiral merlin]

rose patch is very obviously the 'fk vergil' patch with how theyre doing ib as well

[simple dew]

couldve just gave her only the hypermatrix and called it a day

and bench hanging in true slash

[buoyant hornet]

I find it funny that she's straight up just a better attacker because she still keeps her edr shred

[spiral merlin]

breaker is tied to attacker or tank tho

from resos

[distant wren]

who's to say they won't make em amp as well

[weary hedge]

So she's just an ultima dps? Whats the problem I'm missing lol. They powercrept Dante alr I thought this was expected

[spiral merlin]

would be new class in this case

[crystal rune]

Restorater

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh I've been trying to enjoy the game more whenever I do actually play but the problems are impossible to not address at the end of the day unfortunately, and kuro's lack of a response really doesn't help

[fluid gulch]

fck it just make a all in one class

[carmine reef]

Glorified tank that cant fulfill the purpose of tank in affix which also means we're forced to keep the older tank that we all hate

[simple dew]

[cobalt plover]

So she doesnt shred?

[simple dew]

a tank that cant tank

[cobalt plover]

[carmine reef]

She doesnt in ts

[cobalt plover]

Hm

[wanton hatch]

tank but tankless

[cobalt plover]

Thats

[weary hedge]

Ah. Wait a minute who is the current third slot for ultima rn?

[spiral merlin]

That’s just it

[carmine reef]

Vero or alisa

[spiral merlin]

She’s not tank she’s breaker

[weary hedge]

Just replace them lol

[carmine reef]

You cant

[wanton hatch]

gonna break our brains

[cobalt plover]

With who

[crystal rune]

Liv luminance

[simple dew]

ishmael :clueless:

[buoyant hornet]

I mean breaker was never explicitly labeled a hybrid class, and we don't know if other breakers would get glorious afterglow or if rose is just an exception

[slate gull]

atp kuro is just experimenting with classes

[cobalt plover]

Belieb

[buoyant hornet]

They could become anything as far as we currently know

[weary hedge]

Why exactly? They don't buff ultima, right? Just double dps it

[fluid gulch]

wrong reply

[fluid gulch]

👴

[carmine reef]

Crit buff, and it wouldn't make sense anyway. Ts operates by consuming stacks

[carmine roost]

Honestly, I've thought about all of the things I need to say for this matter

But at this point, I'm sure it's proven pointless in this situation.

I have many things but also nothing to say.

[carmine reef]

Double dps doesn't work in ts

[simple dew]

trueslash is currently 3 disliked units
rosetta, hanging, vero

[carmine reef]

Even ignoring the fact that it does no dmg without crit buff from vero or alisa

[cobalt plover]

You cant because she’s the only crit buff for ts
Either her or alisa

[sick flower]

does the qte thing work on slash?

[buoyant hornet]

yeah understandable

[carmine roost]

Pointing out Kuro or defending Kuro, it's going to the same end.

[gray totem]

what if ishmael leap gives her access to phys

[slate gull]

it's okay yoshiko, you can whisper them to my ears

[simple dew]

then eos

[wanton hatch]

[buoyant hornet]

I just find it really sad the state of the meta side of the community rn tbh, game getting worse is only second to that

[open verge]

pgr eos is coming

[spiral merlin]

Resos have always been tied to class

[simple dew]

thats the sign to start reading lore

[weary hedge]

Ah I forgot about crit being needed on ultima and not just phys lol

[carmine roost]

The only thing I can whisper to your ear is this can of compressed air

[sick flower]

was there any character that didnt become meta in their affix on release?

[slate gull]

ultima has been trash from the beginning. and until now it still is

[carmine roost]

https://tenor.com/view/its-kyle-hey-aircan-air-spray-its-kyle-hey-can-gif-25718770

[carmine roost]

Kill Hanying

[buoyant hornet]

You're right but we've only seen 2 deviations from class reso norms so it's not really enough of a pattern to generalize what kuro might do, they even initially didn't even have glorious on her and went back to add it

[carmine reef]

Yes but you won't like it

[carmine roost]

Hanying is also the culprit why Vero dps isn't possible

[weary hedge]

I feel like breakers are gonna be front loaders, based on the name.

[sick flower]

who

[fluid gulch]

[carmine reef]

||Cw||

[carmine roost]

Vero does more dmg than Hanying, but not having shred is straight up death sentence.

[buoyant hornet]

LMFAOOOOO poor alpha

lived and died before getting to touch darkflow

[sick flower]

i said on release

[carmine reef]

She was the release of df

[fluid gulch]

with no df content

Until Vera

[wanton hatch]

[carmine reef]

Until liv

[fluid gulch]

Wait

[buoyant hornet]

""""release""""

[fluid gulch]

Yeah

[buoyant hornet]

many air quotes

[carmine reef]

There was 0 df content until cw was replacrd

[sick flower]

said it like darkflow didnt exist before her

[weary hedge]

Trust, Rosetta's wep/memories will shred ultima

[slate gull]

i remember empress even practiced df with cw

[spiral merlin]

And each time they deviated from the norm they introduced a new class

[cold walrus]

she can work as a sub dps on sss rank tho. but still, han is a bottleneck of current phys, but vero herself also isnt really strong in phys. they nerfed her harshly

[buoyant hornet]

Alpha df was just a proof of concept atp

[carmine reef]

Thats correct

It didn't exist before cw

[fluid gulch]

It existed as a text in the game

[sick flower]

darkflow existed before crimson weave leap it just didnt have content

[buoyant hornet]

I honestly don't think they'll want every breaker to be an affix attacker is what I'm trying to say, reso decisions aside

[gray totem]

wat

[carmine reef]

Are you slow

[sick flower]

im not

[simple dew]

technically wanshi, nanami, vera, midiana since they didnt get content for their affix till much later

[carmine reef]

Well

[gray totem]

i dont remember any mention to df pre cw leap

[carmine reef]

I did say you wouldn't like it

[spiral merlin]

They can create a new class if they don’t want this to happen

[carmine reef]

So i guess i expected things to go this way

[buoyant hornet]

I can't believe the first ever affix to really exist was freaking truetrash

[buoyant hornet]

you know what I hope they do, and let sss breaker idea die in a ditch

[simple dew]

balter true slash

[buoyant hornet]

😭 😭

[wanton hatch]

heck

[sick flower]

did disruption exist before teddy?

[gray totem]

nope

[crystal rune]

Starts with true slash and will end with true slash

[gray totem]

it was disruption

[spiral merlin]

Or maybe even they’ll just decide to let some breakers shred in affix

[slate gull]

didnt both TS and plasma came out together

[fluid gulch]

No

[carmine reef]

Ts ruined balter's reputation as a good f2p unit

[carmine roost]

Relying on hanying dps for breakpoint is ass, can't do anything else

[buoyant hornet]

Come on now

[cold walrus]

and making a tank (breaker) rosetta an affix attacker is a strange desicion too. theoretically every new breaker can be an affix attacker, but it is so strange considering we already have a bunch of affix attacker attackers

[gray totem]

[spiral merlin]

No shred doesn’t have to be consistent because it’s part of kit not class

[sick flower]

disruption did not exist before teddy but darkflow existed before alpha leap

[buoyant hornet]

yeah exactly

[distant wren]

No it didn't

[carmine roost]

Slash technically came out first

But the dedicated content for it is released together in Lucia patch I think?

[slate gull]

i see

[buoyant hornet]

their initial intention of making affixes whale gated lmaooo I'm really glad the backpedalled on that

[weary hedge]

Rosetta still shreds dark, right? Thought I heard she was replacing karenina

[carmine reef]

Maybe they want to break the mold they theymselves set up. Cause so far all affix dps have been attackers

[spiral merlin]

She does

[carmine reef]

But that leads to some weird contrast with the state of the base teams

[gray totem]

vero

[sick flower]

who else could she be going to replace 😭🙏

[carmine reef]

Vero isnt the dps in the proper meta team

[spiral merlin]

Vero is not made to be main dps

[cold walrus]

nanami is a goat. non attacker main dps

[spiral merlin]

Her field just so happens to be op

[distant wren]

I literally followed cn beta news for nanami patch with cw leap and that was the first time darkflow was introduced

[gray totem]

isnt mmeta team vero vera nana

burn

[carmine reef]

No

[gray totem]

dante back?

[carmine reef]

??

[sick flower]

wata

[distant wren]

Don't say misinfo for things you don't know

[buoyant hornet]

I just hope they actually fix the debuff UI on live release because it had me profoundly confused about how her different shred effects actually work lmao

[carmine reef]

You are lost in the sauce

[weary hedge]

Hope the next character after her is a lightning support or ice dps then. Ppc and warzone is a nightmare without them

[carmine reef]

Full invest burn has always been dante

[spiral merlin]

It’ll be easier when playing it I’m sure

[carmine reef]

Other than vero v2 beta

Or whichever v it was

[gray totem]

didnt 1st week vero outscore dante

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly their handling of affixes has been a hot mess since day one, so many outlandish decisions lol

[weary hedge]

Was laughing my ass off when I saw it lol

[distant wren]

There was slash IB on hanying patch, yea, but no plasma IB since daren aint gonna do jack

[carmine reef]

No

[buoyant hornet]

It was genuinely hard to pin down whether her field applied chain fusion I was so mad back then

I was like really pressed when we thought her qte field didn't apply shred

[buoyant hornet]

v3

[slate gull]

i kinda see them experimenting affixes in pgr for negative statuses in wuwa.

[sick flower]

lets make pyroath element terrible and affix good so we can sell affix

[buoyant hornet]

they buffed her entire kit, then in v4 they botched physical to hell and kept burn the same

because v3 veronica was outdpsing selena with ease

[weary hedge]

I will never forgive kuro for ruining my wife with her fire kit

[carmine roost]

Everything is mixed up cuz barely anyone pays attention anymore

[buoyant hornet]

yeah lol

[spiral merlin]

I’m confused too

[sick flower]

did they only have this idea for pyroath or am i missing out on another attacker

[buoyant hornet]

don't worry if you have ss0 bianca now both affix and element are useless

[peak halo]

Them do
Kuro test lot of thing in pgr
And i guess wuwa too

[carmine reef]

Why are we acting like lucia's fire kit is terrible

[buoyant hornet]

They outdid themselves

[carmine reef]

It's really not, Vera is just better

[fluid gulch]

Unlike Vero who is just purely burn character

[distant wren]

Yea lucia not bad

[sick flower]

the numbers are funny compared to later gen 3 units on element

[weary hedge]

Holy juxtaposition

[distant wren]

And for high invest vera has her problems too

[peak halo]

I only hate her plasma kit
But its more by affix mech

[barren plank]

Pyroath just was more harshly punished by powercreep than most units

[distant wren]

With bad dmg distribution

[spiral merlin]

I feel like pyro is pretty bad

But not very bad

[barren plank]

Nowadays yes

[fluid gulch]

she just didn't age good

[sick flower]

and idk man her rotations start feels like just a waste of time

[carmine reef]

I don't think she's being more harshly punished by powercreep than normal

[hoary dagger]

Slash IB starts on pyroath patch when balter leap together with ion IB

[weary hedge]

I find her plasma rot more fun to play. Way better score than my premium fire team in ppc

[sick flower]

was the start of her rotation okay for the early gen 3 days or was it sticking out?

[carmine reef]

She's being powercrept the normal amount for her age

[buoyant hornet]

from what I've gathered thanks to frus giving me clean footage (I could be wrong if the UI was bugged there), it seems like her qte field does apply chain fusion but only for ~2s each application, so it does work but if the field expires the shred won't last at all

[carmine reef]

Nanami is the outlier

[distant wren]

Oh it wasn't on hanying patch? Mb

[crystal rune]

Kill nanami

Trash unit

[carmine reef]

Everyone else around lucia's age like wanshi and hanying are feeling their age the same amount

[barren plank]

Oh my god Balter TS was so bad I hated that sht

[distant wren]

People really didn't take into acc that they had sync lmao

[buoyant hornet]

how does this robot jesus mech girl keep getting more and more relevant every other patch

[distant wren]

Pyro dominated much longer in cn

[sick flower]

but pyroath is the poster girl

[buoyant hornet]

if anything I'd say she's the most functional among the units released around her age too, just struck with the curse of being an attacker

[slate gull]

an alpha simp would say that for sure

[simple dew]

its weird that half a year ago pyro was the top and now shes slandered to oblivion

[carmine reef]

Anyone who thinks lucia aged poorly either forgot about sync or is just saying "aged poorly" to mean the same thing as "aged"

[weary hedge]

Trust she'll get a leap to out dps vera

On everyone's soul here she will

[barren plank]

Yea there is sync to consider too

[buoyant hornet]

Sync almost murdered luna until she got her magical leap resurrection

[sick flower]

she will get a leap similar to luna that stupidly increases her damage numbers but i dont think they will touch her plasma they probably have op plasma breaker plan in mind

[distant wren]

Yea idk exactly what part of her gameplay aged that poorly for them lmao
Other than the obvious attacker curse