#📨・meta-help
1 messages · Page 3155 of 1

Okay
If lightning not ping shadow orbs
Useless cuz dmg became df
Also in start just insta swap cw
Do her 1 ult slam (hba) if needed
After swap nanami 2 ult rotation
Also nanami ss
sht
yes
ow
guys if i plug smth into the wall and i was touching both metal bits and got shocked is that bad
so is 21 and cw is sss
I assumed that cuz other way not use them
21 give the 8% perma atk for everyone
And 4 davinci 2 guin 2eins/4 guin
feral with sig and weapon reso 
I mean, although new phys seems ez-er, less pain (Hy matrix ping no longer problem), less dmg, float mald on sel when she does only 1 rot, but there's something wrong in this new strat that prevent me from competing with it, and I always get worse points than old phys.
And if u can harmo startrial
After get 4hasien to her instead eins
now explain how "ez-er" is easier to type than "easier"
Ohh 21 no harmo
Then just 4dv 2guin

why no weapon harmo on startrail and feral

https://youtu.be/8xGaGOI4_yY?si=AZSb6DRVRA_61YY8
Thats is kinda bad run, but can use as ref
With i do ish just that do with no21
invets and builds
CW: sss+ r3(dlt MD GA ) 4 diesel 2cottie 2eins
Nananight: ss3 r2(DD MD) 4 herschell 4 haisen
Ish: sss0 r3 (dlt GS SAR) 4 Dv 4 Guin (Dlt just filler, not must for the run)
my felt of this run i truly needs sss nananight she is good on ss3 but not felt enoughts shred on some brakepoints.
Vero hitlag 
This situation is different from Fire team, where there are also two builds that are evenly matched, with the better build depending on the zone's wave spawn that week. But with phys, surely that new phys > old, but I dont like new phys for some reason, or just me so washed
i dont have the resources 😭
Just recycle one of your sig 
What is echo harmony
I gave several attempts trying it but just got worse results, so new phys isnt for me
okay
thx
brick
What vid
Old phys still better in mob zones imo
does anyone have that video with a list of all the elements in their highest score?
Is it time to kiwi
Great time to do it
😔
what was the first?
wym? I thought dmc will save pgr glb
DMC hit hard for me
ymean vergil dead?


Does anyone have Rose Arete’s ultima pic?

lmao 3s stigmata very funny
Can't double rotation if it's the first swap
Unless you use lingya before swapping in hanying
yes 2nd rot 
she still can't
Wrong input
There's only one way to double rot first rotation with Lingya orb
Can't Fck it up in any way
i dont think you need lingya for ss0? unless im mistaken
she just doesnt get a 3p on swap out
she always eat all da orbs when i hold ult 
3p for lingya orb buff > swap hanying > 3 red + 1 yellow > green orb > ult 1 (you can NOT get matrix activated until this point, otherwise screwed and can't double rot)
After ult1 > 3blue to fill gauge > tap ult 3 times + hold ult for 4th (gauge empty) for ult2
6 red orb > green orb (must fill full gauge) > ult1 > tap ult 4 times and hold on 5th (automatically uses 3 blue) to cast ult2 and that way you just have enough everything for double rot
2 rot after harmonic orb press red orb 2 more time before ult 1
Coz she needs full gauge
That's the only way
I'm talking Phys not ts
i dun understand
We've been talking about phys rot
phys so hard
I mean I have a video for example if you need one

def not self promo
send vid dalao
swap > 3 reds > 1 yellow > green > ult
tap ult 3x > tap and hold ult
6 reds > green > ult
tap ult 4x > tap and hold ult
Without lingya, you would only have 5 red on 2nd rot for ss0 hanying
https://youtu.be/bBY3ccLPnfo?si=SElLUTb2PqBJs2jg
Vero 3p to Hanying double rot at start
Character list:
SSS+ rank Secator, 1 weapon resonance, S rank Snow Waltz cub.
SS0 rank Solacetune, 1 weapon resonance, S rank Dreamwing cub.
SS0 rank Aegis, 1 weapon resonance, S rank Lingya.
#punishing_gray_raven #pgr #战双帕弥什 #パニグレ #퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #퍼니싱
Ignore discord

What upcoming
i still dun get it


dalao already?
pls carry me
i dont have any dalaos to carry me
i have to literally beg on my knees
Dalao: doing god's work
Dalao: I'm not doing anything why are you praising me
K lao
K lao
Wym me casual always casual
look at this lao, so humble
Label pfp 
My man 🤝
s3x maniac

fr I thought it was just a custom art for hex
I just think she was hex
maniac
I only know hex maniac because I had her on mudae in a server I was in
Hex and ui fusion

Ik
People said "welcome back hex maniac" when her art dropped
She is a moyjo apparently
What order should I S+ them in 
Cow, bambi last
Nanami, Lotus first
Kamui, watanabes
You've been doing pretty damn good
S+ Changwho 
Also feels like a relief seeing a new good f2p channel
My accounts are still f2p but old account privileges have made some of my investments not-so-relatable for your average f2p account
Bambi and astral, just for gb

watanabe nightblade outdps selena frfr
how to play wz
why u running dv on the meta build tank
wheres the cottie
heisen 😭
its definitely a joke but
hurts as hell

8 cottie will be the new meta
it would be hilarious if a single 3p now charges a ult bar of ult
how much would bianca ult
she has like orb return on ulting right
dmc collab when?
eos
soe
eso
seo
ose
search engine optimization
elder scrolls online
shadows of evil
Əㅇs
Setsu do we get a free CNY selector for Rose patch
I know nothing


beta ended
So
17m Slash
This beta was an emotional roller coaster

yes
Worse than Vergil
we almost had peak

I think ts scored a bit better no?
ye
So
Rose gonna be another vero?
whata the final state summary for rosetta @gray totem
pretty good for dark
ts is pretty bad, if it launches in it's current state it would be in the worst teams of the game
she is gonna make high level play boring due to her qte charges
Rip
ive heard that she is still WAY stronger than vergil

she was at v3
she isnt at v4
V4 weaker
she is weaker than him rn
WHAT
I LOVE VERGIL AND I WAS ASKING FOR HIM TO BE REPLACED AND HE IS SURVIVING THE REPLACEMENT 😭
so what does rosetta do for ultima slash besides executing
around phys
Glacio is a bad team?
worst team in the game
:0
carried by 1 guy
How about bruteforcing pc with it
it's why wanshi
Ppc
is likely getting a leap

Glacio bad because one unit does all the dmg
But ok for ppc because burst dmg?
hanying and wanshi HAVE to get leap together in 1 patch
What do u think wanshi would get?
Wanshi leap would make me happy
Qte field?
hanying is gonna die imo
More dmg?
Breaker class trust
qte field and heavy damage buff
Bullet ult stacks to 30?
LUMINANCE V2
idk if a leap even saves her
qte field and more dmg
that would completely rework his current mechanics
More pain
No gain
You mean base bullet ult off of gauge instead of maim stacks?
also get rid of parry
Omg please
Only require 1 3p to fill the bullet gauge thing
i dont see a problem for her to die if they fix the slash gameplay and buff her damage, maybe buff her tank abilities as well
Kinda underwhelming
Regain bullets after ultimg
problem is phys in general is bad
even if u leap her
nothing changes
it will still be bad
i surely dont think they would make her good but they can very easily make her better than mediocre
Well since 3 leap skills
Maybe 1 does full gauge in one 3ping, another does auto reload after ult
Wanshi need buff for glacio too though
That wouldn’t help him
Let's break the game and make his glacio stacks last longer


Why not
Breaker
what about making wanshi deal increasing damage on ulti with each bullet he has? could make the ba ulti actually good 
i doubt he is fire tbh
Make wanshi generate 10 time more glacio and caps at 150 stacks
it seems to obvious
Glacio for the rest of the race
it liv all over again
i thought he would be dark plasma tank, dark tank got taken so he will be fire plasma
Ba ult is good
How about we give him 50% more shred at sss
It is though

You mean like the basic attack dmg?
its not good compared to teddy and he will be laughable compared to alpha
i guess
No we mean
The ba ult already gets more dmg based off gauge number
wdym ok bud wanshi is 100% going to hold support memories cause he is weak
Let's just give wanshi 5,000% more dmg

and im not talking about the gauge number, im talking about the bullets he has in the chamber, not doing the third part of hold ba could increase his ulti damage so you wont sacrifice 1/3 of the hold ba damage
if kamui is phys breaker
The third part of hold ba?
that biatch pyro might survive
Let's not curse him
considering no one does it, would be really good to have that on ulti damage instead
Pyroach
but i also want han to die
What even is the third part of hold ba
I know a solutijn
Eh makes sense
Though that isnt a huge buff
Make kamui Phys and fire breaker
bruh
Oh yea
We haven’t gotten a unit that can do 2 different non affix types of dmg in a while
a buff is a buff and wanshi is desperate for a buff
alpha is guaranteed attacker aswell
fair
-# but i want bigger buff
A rank support
Watch alpha be an amp
good ending
Alpha finally realises that attack isn't everything and decides to support
I know I know great idea
Hire me
dont hope for support alpha it would only make alpha actually good and useful for many content + live on for a huge while AND ALPHA SOLO WOULD BE A REAL THING IN THAT CASE 😭
How was rosetta kicking out vergil earlier? Is it her literally just being a ts attacker or just alot of dmg in general
That's why I said a rank
She won't be meta
ts amp isnt gonna do anything
maybe at best replace vero
we will never get ts amp
copium
I hate ts
you know what would save ultima slash?
actually she might not be ts
What
Selena leap for ts
a full hanying replacement or a leap for hanying that completely changes her slash gameplay

for alpha?
for alpha
Would be cool
im the alpha fan and no one wants alpha to be nihil more than me
but im sure thats not happening
they are probably saving that slot for our favorite nugget
or glacio amp
Can we not have alpha yet
I'm still kinda sick of her
Maybe in 2027 I'll be ready
its been 3 years since the last alpha
We can go for 4 years
5 would be nice
Can we just not have another alpha
6 or 7 is perfect
I'm gonna eat you
ah six seven
Whats the team gone longest unupdated?
ion
The banana rice fields are blooming this late summer winter night
or u mean elemental?
What
Yea
that would be fire or nihil
fire is really fun to play
Nihil doesn’t count ig
Only has 2 units
How long was ayla-qu?
4 patches
a little under a year
5 if u count qu's patch

noctis 🤍🤍🤍
What u waffling about
i thought u meant pre wanshi
I need Wanshi leap
should've said glory
Oh yeah
-# i miscalculated and bought too many leap wafer chips from wz shop
Wanshi Lucia Chrome
Well tbf I wasn't there to actually experience the full thing
roland or nugget
Alpha
So I didn't name it
Nugget
Nugget replacing Luna
Getting ice wz back in my beginner times was practically a guaranteed promotion
it would be so funny
I had a wayyy better ice team than most beginners at the time
imagine having better dps than the thing you are scared of fighting
It's the only logical way to put him in nihil
223 205
Amp nugget sounds cursed asf

I was actually kinda bummed about qu since now I lost the advantage
Never had qu 
All praise teddy
I also for some reason knew that ayla was stronger than lucia but I kept using lucia mdps cause she was ssr2 and ayla was ss05*
qu is surprisingly fun to use ngl
never had to suffer

watch her comeback if wanshi get leaped
I had to solo wanshi for the longest time
I actually did suffer a bit for qu
She was the last unit I couldn't ss + sig on release
her orb management is very uniquely different than other gen 2 units that are not like "all 1-2 colors"
But it was all okay since I got her ss3

Using her in rapid pursuit was actually fun
@wanton hatch what rank are u
Wouldn't he be in legend
Levisha whel so yes
when i quit poc and started pgr even luminance looked so cool, then i got cw and i was beyond amazed by her gameplay
later i realized she is not that interesting
kill this person
I played cw solo FOR FCKING FOREVER
but she is still fun to use if not doing her meta rotation
cut off his balls

I cant help it; i love a good challenge
dominating celica bosses with alpha is something else bro thats the peak of pgr combat
I spent 4 hours straight playing inferno twins even after i finished
I remember sharing my first impressions of pgr to my gf
Why are they all in bikinis
Why are her boobs only half covered
banning u isnt enough
i want u whole existence null
(stigmata)
name 1 pgr character in bikini
Alpha
Vera Garnet beach skin
thats why u show the husbando first
CW wasn't out yet
BECAUSE THATS A BEACH SKIN
I immediately noticed the Lee bump
No fr tho
I cant play during my classes without my friends giving me weird look
Oh right that too
I obviously didn't know that
First impressions
First impressions 🤦♂️
??????
how
YOU LOOKED AT A CHARACTERS SKINS
It wasn't looking at Vera and looking at the skins she had
AND SAW A ONE LAYING ON A BEACH SEAT THINGY
Not me pulling 2 coatings right away
WITH BIKINI AND GLASSES AND SHT
does yo girl play pgr
My first impression from pgr was being bewildered at the sight of aylas bazoongas
You know how you login
no
And you get bombarded with events
no
yes i do know that
I saw vera garnet on it and thought that was her base skin
I thought it was all their base skin
bruh
Let me check if I have the img
Not anymore
ca has a normal shirt
why did she quit
Bikini skin
that skin screams "im a beach skin"
Still in a bikini
do you swim with your cloak and all
I don't swim
do you touch grass
Not enough storage
I touch concrete sometimes
I was on call with her
And we were too bewildered to read
CONSTRUCT COATING
also I had no idea what that even meant
it says new sfx coating
Since this was literally
LITERALLY
FIRST 5 MINUTES
OF PLAYING
PLUS
PGR IS MY FIRST GACHA GAME OUTSIDE OF GENSHIN
I DIDN'T KNOW SHT
Why you trying to explain it so bad tho
skins dont exist in genshin?
Who cares
Because I actually have an incredibly vivid memory of what happened
i do
doesnt the word coating mean like outfit
Also
PGR is the only gaem that calls skins "coating"
That was before I knew skins were even in genshin
I played 2022
When I finished the Inazuma Archon Quest I thought the game literally ended
That was it
So I just stopped playing
You don't understand how stupid and new I was to the gaming scene
The only other game I played then was minecraft or roblox
I didn't even know what a construct was
isnt genshin the "best gacha game"
so called
door
No I was actually gone from the entire genshin scene at that point
I quit over a year already by the time I started pgr
But I guess it worked out I played consistently for 2 years
Looking at my dms with her on my old acc it seems I genuinely just fell in love the moment I started playing
what did you feel when you started genshin
I liked it alot
what was your favorite thing about genshin
I also played consistently until 2.7 then I quit cause I didn't like the artifact malding
if its the same for pgr
Zhongli
how do you think pgr executed it better
you like the combat of genshin?
and what did you like in genshin
I liked the open world
It was my first gacha so I was really just astounded by everything
isnt genshins map ass
It's like giving a guy from 1960 an iphone 1
He's gonna think it's revolutionary cause it is
For what he knows
what the fc did you play before genshin
minecraft world is WAY bigger than genshin
yeah it doesnt have fan service sexualized characters
minecraft world has many biomes and all
I did not care at the time
genshin is filled with big rocks with flat surfaces that you cant even climb
Ok
what ok
【沉淀了几期物理才敢说,其实传统维罗妮卡战区该带四专属而非二费-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/5WC8xbk
you didnt care but stayed in the game for it?
I didn't care about little rocks I couldn't climb
Or the fact that the characters are "sexualised"
I liked that they had stories
In minecraft the most sentient reaction you'll get is a hrmph from a villager
I've never experienced a story that was built
got V4 Rosetta Slash zone video?
【【骡子v4】斩单2220w-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/g1AH3l5
isn't it better than virgin?
buff on live pls
Virgil 20.5 was done on duo over and over boss mostly scores higher anytime can get similar score with him as well with proper zone

Problem very few actually brothers to play with him 
i think u need to play singleplayer games or something
if u get a new phone
get into emulation
Zamn improvement I guess
phys god i cant
was the 47m on boss?
how do i watch that
wtf
Duo but nerfed not hitting that again
surely
1.1 that try
what
what the hell is that link
does it work
dns issue?
thats literally what i use to be able to hop on discord
no
destined to be mid i guess

@noble zinc what does rosetta do for ultima slash besides dealing damage

Deal more damage
does her class shred in ts
its impossible
Use Brave
gotta be honest about the wz result ui, its kinda not bad
It's hot ass
look at general someone called me a diva boo bo chow
Very slightly so that comparable to df/burn range they better for ts
Too much on screen
But tank class skill is edr
my opinion 
Idk abt her kit yet not good person to ask 
Not ele locked
What is that
isnt her shred the same
her class shred
that is
well, she has to do some kind of buffing for ultima slash

she doesnt buff
why not
why should she
she is tank
that's debuff
She is shred-less Ultima Slash unit, meant to become the DPS.
Only her class passive is in work
thats still some kind of buff for ultima slash you know
ye i mean that
thats higher than tank debuff from han
Yea
is it confirmed they dont stack
Higher value takes over lower value
Yes
true
Imagine if she gets buffed like crazy on release
imagine if she gets nerfed FURTHER 
Dork good, ts fked
who has the starter guide
avg
Since DMC this has gone downhill with each new S character. Perhaps the only good one is Liv, but she's on the phylotrash banner.
Teddy also ok, but an OK that resembles mid
Teddy cute

💢
Don't disrespect my wife Vera like that
She's good
It's not her fault cn players couldn't cook

Isn't vera before dmc
Wait




But yeah, Queso right
Everything points to dmidc collab
So I'm gonna be blaming it
any ts ref this week

Is Rosetta nerfed yet
Gg games still cooked
Vera was before DMidC
teddy is goated cuz she killed shukra
Teddy killed Shukra even in PPC
I thought qu needed for 7s mado
Teddy skill issue ppc
qu is fastest for really squishy like mado but otherwise dead for ppc
but teddy is slow so also dead for ppc
SSS Qu? 
Cuz no way SS Qu kills Mado in 2s
bear still the fastest for emperor 
unless giga whel q* can do it faster, but we ignore that 
ss q* best is 8s
s+ q can do 7s, but only on knight with some weird kraken strat
S+ min rughts 
your wanshi is weakge
Indeed he is 
qu is garbo for ib no?

-# i wouldnt know, i have 0s qu
I have qu sig tho
-# qu uniframe sig
So whel 
qu less sig
Should have jointed during qu hater era 
It was real run
*fun
liv ended that era
Long time ago
2025/05/01 to whatever the date liv's beta ended
We even had songs
i didnt expect the era to last that long

i thought after vera or something we would get a ice amp


One that door mostly wrote i think
Oh Qu Shukra, you disgrace— Trash to fight, and trash to play.
A boss so cheap, a unit so weak,
The game itself begs you to leave.



then treepy made a song of an early version of the poem
then we made a proper poem
that was made to a song that is mostly known today



that is true
but other people helped as well
it was gameplay help effort

sss yeah lol
nanami startrail build SS?
4 hershell 4 heisen
On this week Glacio sss have the same score with ultima slash sss but glacio is harder
Rosetta coming soon
After all the betas what ended up being the verdict for her
Still stupid w the weird mechanics and qte timer bs on sss?
less score than vergil
WAT
context was 444 glacio having worse score
me too man me too
than any team
She was wayyyy out dpsing him initially
They gave her the Veronica treatment?🥹🥹🥹
What abt for dark
yep
opposite of veronica
dark is still good
Oh yea
Kuro doesn't know sht on how to balance or fix anything
Veronican’t
Ss3 still big boost and then sss totally broken right?
well its kinda balanced no? a very recent slash unit is not replaced already
we would have 0 problems if the tank was enabler instead of executioner
@gray totem how does vero rose vergil do
20m
Collab units should never be meta relevant in the first placed
so hanying is replaced?
no
Pak
Rosetta doesn't shred ts
she is the only ts enbaler
wasnt vero han rose 17m
So han is still needed
and she shread ts aswell
Pak
yeah but then nuke dropped a 22m video
It was bosses
so what the fc does rosetta do
yep
attacker
Which score better than 2 elites
tank
Breaker
same thing
No
is ts she is attacker with slightly more shred i guess
and those qte charges
Rosetta gets attacker resos
i wanna use rosetta instead of hanying
would ss3 cub rosetta replace ss0 no cub hanying for ts 
no
omfg
We just said she doesn't shred ts
rosetta could be sss+
How tf you gonna run team with no shred
and hanying would still be in the team
I DONT WANNA BLUE SIG BA BLUE SIG BA 😭😭😭😭😭
even s0 hanying would be in the team

At least Midanca is out commotion
who's that
are we sure that we wont get a leap in rosetta patch?
Fck t9
nothing in beta bout leaps
and they wouldnt make a leap this much time into the beta right?

miranda duh
beta has ended
the miranda rights?
are we LIKELY to get leap on nirvatia?
Bonkerina died, but at least she took bonka with her
yep
hopefully

did we ever get double leap in pgr history @gray totem
No
we got 3 at one time
Tf
so hanying/wanshi leap in nirvatia is possible
it isnt
you just said we got 3 in one
they arent doing doule or tripple leaps anymore
Was it some early A rank leaps
but hanying/wanshi are treated like 1 character by kuro
actually im tripping balls we neevr got triple only double
ew scire
Bro, nightblade has a leap
he does
astral does
i used it
Astral
oh wait astra i mean
A rank leap 
astral has a leap but nightblade does not have a leap
-# not me investing in palefire
i forgor wata has 3 frames
i have full leap SSS sig palefire, gen 3 player btw
Mine’s almost s+ 
A rank leaps too
what does china say
say about what
At least 1 of them were A rank
correct
does china tell kuro to make rosetta weaker than vergil
1s 1a
doubt it
Kuro does whatever tf it wants nowadays
man i love vergil he is my #1 fictional character but i want him gone
They just Yolo ts
how many days for rosetta left?
Patch starts on Feb 3rd
like 2 weeks
so close 
ss3 rosetta cub sig rosetta is weaker than ss3 cub sig vergil right?
ur gonna have to wait for live
as of rn
cn is garbo for poor invest
Around the same
what if i use the proper slash build for rosetta and cant be bothered with changing vergil build to slash memories
kuro leap lilith so that midianca can die above sss aswell
Doubt anyone tried that
hanying was found alive sadly
these kowloong mfs are frauds besides wanshi
guys did you know that
Whel problems smh
My midanca is ded as hell
AND ITS DUMB BECAUSE WITH A TEAM LIKE THAT YOUR UNIFRAMES WOULD DEAL 60% LESS DAMAGE IN THOSE TIMES
For a while she was the only omniframe that could pair with uniframes
Neat, but useless
and
is qu damage
anywhere near comparable to pulao
i believe pulao heavily dominates her
Pulao wasn't any good either
i dont have either but
if anyone came to me and said pulao performs like 2 times better than qu i would just believe it

wrong game
Pulao was way better than qu yes
Qu always sucked, prolly the worst uniframe overall
Maybe after noan
Except noan is good in gb
noan is such a fraud tho
they didnt give him tlc
even tho he came after
nana
Uniframe debuff
Bro didn't know how useful it was for uniframe operation 
A hanying + Kowloon means u can have dv + Cath/Philip in uniframe team 
Ye
Oh wait

Fck uniframes
where is my 20m leader yoshiko
When Babel was fun
I fell asleep...
I didn't even login once to pgr yasterday after reset
im about to get my ssleep
Nighty night
gn
4.69 ss0 dark not bad right 
wait ive got sss ish but karen doesnt have any sss tank passives hm
35% dark shred and 5% EDR reduction (exclusive for Karen)
wait so ishy cant copy it?
The 5% nope
whadafuq is it from her leap or sum
oh the 35 is still fair game
hmmm i should be getting a bit more huh
So seems good
im tryna sss luna
Try at least 5M

gotchu
she's going nowhere in the next year trust 






