📨・meta-help

[noble zinc]

[tame wagon]

58 skulls atm xd

[normal sierra]

bruh, just save then lul

no point in buying shards one by one from shop

[sick flower]

GET OUT OF THIS CHANNEL

[wanton hatch]

whatdahell

[plain oyster]

[noble zinc]

[rose yew]

[tame wagon]

What should I take from voucher after teddy is ss.oblivion is also on s3 already and have weapon https://huaxu.app/eu/players/25119955/characters

[rose yew]

Cw ss is kinda important for plasma team

[tame wagon]

Am f2p am only planning too buy 15k voucher pass every new cycle

[nova forum]

whel

[normal sierra]

so f2p that he buys bp

[tame wagon]

Yess xd

[noble zinc]

[tame wagon]

It's not whaling!

[normal sierra]

totally not

[noble zinc]

[tame wagon]

Well light spender

[spiral merlin]

monthly + bp is basically f2p

[nova forum]

[tame wagon]

Whatever ya wanna call I still it

[normal sierra]

my f2p arc started 2 days ago

[noble zinc]

Me 2 goin f2p next patch skip

[tame wagon]

Yess I think too but do y argue with ppl ppl u never will convince they even think ur whale if u bought 1 dollar luna

[normal sierra]

0 = 🐳

[nova forum]

nah don't worry bruv, just an eternal running joke

[spiral merlin]

<50k rc = basically f2p

[tame wagon]

Technical they right u spend over 0.01 dollar so ain't f2p anymore

[peak halo]

In the word raw meaning
Everyone f2p
U pay the invest/cosmetic not the access to the game

[carmine reef]

something something paying for the machine to run the game on

[tame wagon]

Is wanshi a first good sss?

Good first

[sick flower]

i wouldnt say wanshi is the first free unit you should SSS

you would get way more value with lilith or teddy

[tame wagon]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/25119955/characters

I need 90 after ss right?

[sick flower]

its too early for you to be minding about making characters SSS rank

but as i said, if you will, go for daemonissa or spectre

[tame wagon]

What about getting oblivion too ss?

I have mats for harmony for him and spectre

[sick flower]

ignore oblivion for now id say

[tame wagon]

Will this be enough too do well in ppc ulti next reset?

[peak halo]

If u intent to play nihil then good
But can ignore she she now like alpha say

[sick flower]

do you have 2025 wafer chips?

[tame wagon]

Leap wafers?

[sick flower]

yeah those stuff

it takes 2025 of those and a sht ton of cogs to fully leap a character

[sick flower]

you will also need way more of these

[tame wagon]

U mean for oblivion?

[sick flower]

leap

[tame wagon]

As good as done with his leap

[sick flower]

impressive

max the third one too

but i will be honest with you

oblivion needs SSS to be actually good and you are missing half of the dps without ishmael

[peak halo]

Reverse true

[normal sierra]

sss loona is like the very bottom of any priority list

[nova forum]

are u fr on sss obli

[sick flower]

SS luna is ass

[sick flower]

nihil attacker is of course not priority, nihil can be just ignored

[tame wagon]

So should I get more ss from voucher than nee units or who too pick from voucher after I ss teddy

[sick flower]

luna is crazy on nihil but without SSS she would be only there to make the time valuable when ishmael is not on field

[peak halo]

Sss not nessesary
Ss3 still good
And u can play luna amp tank
But cant play dps ish without luna

[nova forum]

ain't that been the case since ishmael release tho

[sick flower]

yeah attami is right

@tame wagon ignore nihil

focus on the amplifiers with good dps

[tame wagon]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/25119955/characters

[sick flower]

they can be used for many content while luna is only there for nihil warzone

[tame wagon]

Here look my account

[peak halo]

Technicly get all meta voucher char to ss3 and choice wo want first the supports to sss

[tame wagon]

Who from vouchers after teddy is ss or should ss3 lilleth and teddy too ss3

[sick flower]

vouchers are not for ss they are for ss3 and sss

you use skulls if you want to make a character ss

dont use vouchers for a character you will drop at ss

i did once and i regret it 😭

[tame wagon]

I used my skulls on vera:gar

[sick flower]

gar?

garnet?

[nova forum]

ain't no way

[tame wagon]

But she is ss now

[sick flower]

GARNET?

[nova forum]

[orchid owl]

Gardevoir

[sick flower]

WHAT IS GAR

[orchid owl]

Obviously

[normal sierra]

not garnet, bruh

[sick flower]

oh thank god

[normal sierra]

he posted his huaxu link like 28363 times now in the past 10 minutes and none of you even clicked on it lul

[peak halo]

Donno where u seen any garnet on him cc

[sick flower]

possible id grabber better stay safe

[peak halo]

I clicked

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-vera-vera-geiravor-vera-punishing-gray-raven-pgr-gif-15281683347309988842

@tame wagon this is vera gardevoir

[sick flower]

geiravor

[orchid owl]

[sick flower]

not gardevoir

[normal sierra]

gayravor

[tame wagon]

Whas planning too get teddy too where lilleth is atm

[peak halo]

Also he start ss luna
So just finish that luna in my case

But use skulls

[orchid owl]

Bro multitasking

[sick flower]

@tame wagon do you wanna know why is sss luna not priority at all

[peak halo]

When he start ultima ppc still able to get enought for rosetta

[tame wagon]

I only used these on Luna

[normal sierra]

🐳

[nova forum]

look at those rc 🐳

[wanton hatch]

rc

[peak halo]

Ohh well then u just use that for ur luna

[normal sierra]

[sick flower]

use the S rank shards

[tame wagon]

They only 10

[burnt sundial]

[peak halo]

15 if buy the other bp too

[normal sierra]

but those shards are for overflow whel shop

[sick flower]

8k+ worth of voucher material

[peak halo]

He need to start anywhere

[sick flower]

@tame wagon luna is only useful for nihil while

daemonissa can be used in dark plasma ice nihil even cope fire

[plain oyster]

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

hmmmm

[peak halo]

Then
Now how we know he whelling
Get them all meta one sss
No need choice

[sick flower]

attackers are ass by the way keep this in your mind @tame wagon

[plain oyster]

[sick flower]

with 1 exception

just 1

[nova forum]

only used in ice cuz she's expected to be sss and to give her sss passive for <sss teddy

[peak halo]

Yes

[normal sierra]

ye, Lotus best attacker

[wanton hatch]

lootoos

[plain oyster]

[sick flower]

simplify this sentence please

[tame wagon]

So 4 Joana 4 chen for teddyn can some1 comfirm

[normal sierra]

affirmative

[sick flower]

i said simplify not write a book

[peak halo]

Sss lilith only good in ice
If get sss teddy she not nessesary anymore

Ppl why say copie strat as meta

[wanton hatch]

[nova forum]

dalaos assume meta slaves have her on sss and teddy still ss3, so lilith is put into ice just to give her SSS passive (and amp sig reso so teddy can use dps sig reso)

[tame wagon]

Best place too get cogs is simulated bf rght

[peak halo]

Ohh yeah know
Kuro unit balance🚮

[normal sierra]

friend list best cog farm, trust

[sick flower]

arent meta slaves threatening people with killing them to make teddy sss

[tame wagon]

How u mean friend list?

[sick flower]

also

[peak halo]

Like for every basic mats

[tame wagon]

U can trade mats?

[sick flower]

are teddy amplifier buffs better than lilith

[peak halo]

If u had friend them cant send cogs as gift

[normal sierra]

friends can send you cogz
||but only like 10 cogz per friend and limited to 10x ||

[sick flower]

isnt it like 10 cog

[normal sierra]

totally getting rich from it, trust

[sick flower]

you will need tens of millions of cogs

not ten

[peak halo]

Kinda
Donno
I never get cogs by firends

[nova forum]

yes and sht is expensive
i asked multiple time here if i should rush getting her to sss buying her shards without discount and the dalaos either answer no or with sarcasm

they recommend to get teddy to sss but not rush it

[tame wagon]

I build lilleth today from da Vinci buffer 4/2 too badass carry

[sick flower]

@peak halo tell me really is cw a good gen 2 attacker

[normal sierra]

I bought 20 undiscounted shards for sss bear, but I hab tons of those saved up, so it's whatever for me

[tame wagon]

Whas expensive also lvled startrail and geared too 5000 dp

[normal sierra]

it's cuz you not on my fwiendlist, I would gib you lotsa cogz

[tame wagon]

U on Europe?

[normal sierra]

yes

[plain oyster]

Oh no, my teddy still SS

[young badge]

should i wait another 2 month for sss teddi

[sick flower]

should do it rn

[normal sierra]

no, just buy em shards, you whel anyway

[young badge]

me f3p

[plain oyster]

Right now? What a whel

[normal sierra]

[sick flower]

im f5p

[tame wagon]

So who should I do after spectre when he is ss https://huaxu.app/eu/players/25119955/characters

[young badge]

do what

[tame wagon]

Buy from vouchers xd

[young badge]

u buy teddy again

[sick flower]

you know this is a girl

[noble zinc]

[tame wagon]

Ok🤣

[nova forum]

a red tear runs down my leg

[sick flower]

and this is a woman

[noble zinc]

[plain oyster]

[sick flower]

in english we use the pronounce she for females

[young badge]

shemalr

[normal sierra]

ok teacher

[crystal rune]

https://tenor.com/view/bouta-buss-gif-14244251368912892390

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

i dont think mods will like it nergi

[crystal rune]

What mods

[wanton hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856524351407128587/1452508506510065866/o4xg4rMfQWDsgeItgAQIAfLAC2vD8Gk2kLZCAe.gif

[plain oyster]

Mod exist?

[young badge]

mods what

[hoary dagger]

[peak halo]

Yesnt
Like everything in this game
Cw was good in her time if u known how to play her.
And after here leap and nanaknight, she just became a bit complex if ss nanaknight and speedbased with sss nanami

And not want mantion her low dps scaling comper to nowadays unit

But in gen2 era she was good as other dps to get have

[sick flower]

was she beyond her time dps wise

like ca, oblivion, limpidity

[nova forum]

hai pls ple my legend wz

[normal sierra]

cw was the highest dmg dealer at her release time

[young badge]

wow setsu qiwi

[plain oyster]

[nova forum]

Holy pak the lag

[wanton hatch]

the harmo sheet

damn you kurogames

[nova forum]

Legit?

[sick flower]

really?

[tame wagon]

Does teddy want sig on lower?

[young badge]

yes

[sick flower]

so why do people make fun of me whenever i say that @normal sierra

[nova forum]

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

why do this servers members bully me when i say anything good about cw

[plain oyster]

[peak halo]

Yeah that time on debut all units shine in every rank
Not like nowadays construct

[nova forum]

Cw fatigue

[normal sierra]

bruh it was several years ago
she's wet noodle now

[peak halo]

Sss to be playable

[nova forum]

Seen her glaze since her cn release

Not that she's terrible, but more so people here are sick of talking about cw

[peak halo]

Yes ppl get overhyped to much

[sick flower]

she is wet noodle now because the difference between gen 2 and gen 3 is beyond sht like quadruple of the difference between gen 1 and 2

[tame wagon]

What do u guys use here mostly?

[young badge]

mods lurking

[nova forum]

Here what tho

[nova forum]

[wanton hatch]

use what

oh

[nova forum]

The blue coins

[sick flower]

gen 3 power scale is ridiculous astronomic numbers

[normal sierra]

the difference between veritas and cw was galaxies wide too

[tame wagon]

Memory or stuff from semulator

[nova forum]

When I was broke I used my reso selector

[sick flower]

and you guys love to compare a gen 2 unit to gen 3 unit

nanami is the best tank in the game and she is a gen 3 unit

everyday you guys wake up and glaze startrail

[wanton hatch]

cuz she's worthy of that glaze

[sick flower]

then say cw is bad because compared to her she sucks

[young badge]

startrail mogs wet noodle

[wanton hatch]

immagine being compatible in almost every team comp

[sick flower]

gen 2 vs gen 3 is a stupid comparison

[wanton hatch]

except ice or phys maybe, other than that Nanami is just the goat

[normal sierra]

we just living in the present, not in some prehistoric times

[peak halo]

For what?
Ohh if i had red chip i use that
After if empty simcurrency
The middle needs for harmo so that not good if want mat efficent

[sick flower]

good luck using her as your side chick to bianca

[carmine reef]

Even by the end of gen2 cw was one of the weaker units

[wanton hatch]

[nova forum]

Is this peep crashing out over nanami

[wanton hatch]

ig so

[nova forum]

[sick flower]

so werent we saying she was good few minutes ago

[carmine reef]

Anyway you dont get made fun of because of cw

You get made fun of because you're really juvenile about this

[sick flower]

juvenile?

[wanton hatch]

oh no

not this again

[young badge]

yes this again

[normal sierra]

at her release date
obviously, the more time passes, the more outdated old chars get
why is this so surprising to you?

[peak halo]

[sick flower]

which attackers released after her

[peak halo]

Like now nanaknight

[nova forum]

I sense drama 🍿

[orchid owl]

Cw was solid for her time
Did lamia absolutely dunk her in terms of everything? Yes
Even feral
But meta is as meta was

[sick flower]

feral? 😭

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

i was looking at old stuff at those times

[nova forum]

Doesn't take much to surpass cw damage

[sick flower]

people used lux instead of feral

[orchid owl]

Yeah you would play feral and cw in swap and honestly feral was doing the same or more than cw

[orchid owl]

If no sig

[normal sierra]

you really found some obscure things to watch, ehh?

[orchid owl]

Bc feral sig locked 10% heal buff

[nova forum]

If watank is lightning cw would've been placed as sub DPS when he's released

[peak halo]

When my feral did nothing
Same rank btw

[orchid owl]

What rank

[normal sierra]

even without wulf sig, good luck staying in lux tiny little circle with cw when she jumps from one universe to the other

[peak halo]

Ss

[orchid owl]

You capping

[sick flower]

isnt watanabe still somewhat good in todays standards

[orchid owl]

You are a CW fan

[orchid owl]

Yeah that's why that statement is true in the first place

[peak halo]

No
Just my experiance
I still had ptsd about feral vs w18 bear

[sick flower]

my SS feral used to do nothing close to my SS cw right before i leaped her

[nova forum]

Yesn't
It's cuz of specific reason tho, his off-field shred and his sss availability

[sick flower]

and cw is WAY older than watanabe

[orchid owl]

Sure but cw didn't age well

[sick flower]

how long does hanying rotation take

[normal sierra]

I aged well

[orchid owl]

When nanami released she replaced the entire lightning team, so much so that SSS cw didn't get field time unless weather

While wata still relevant

Even SS

[sick flower]

didnt cw do the same on her release

[nova forum]

1 rot, 7 secs
2 rot 10-14 secs
Rough guess tho

[carmine reef]

other way around

[tame wagon]

Hypertune gives +2 sig ?

[sick flower]

youtube is full of her solo videos

[carmine reef]

sss cw always swapped in, below sss depended on weather

[normal sierra]

cw still needs a tank
but a tank... doesn't need another tank

[crystal rune]

hy takes just under 10s to double rot

[sick flower]

and a breaker doesnt need a breaker

[nova forum]

Hence why knightnami is superior

[sick flower]

and watanabe does the same damage in 3 seconds, i would say he is better than hanying

[orchid owl]

Idk I was told to solo nanami instead of use cw at all

[nova forum]

Sure

[crystal rune]

I mean

He does like 3 bars of w10 bear

But sure

[orchid owl]

I only swapped in once to get the qte nuke

[nova forum]

[carmine reef]

yeah well everyone loved being oversimplistic about light team

[young badge]

hanying does .5

[orchid owl]

Even meta?

[normal sierra]

what are these weird random comparisons?

[sick flower]

man i hate physical team so bad

physical fell off after gen 1

[carmine reef]

i had an entire doc about every possible lightning swap scenario between cw and nanami and my testing of it

[orchid owl]

It's just a scam
Like college

[carmine reef]

it was pinned in here but i asked for it to be removed once liv came out

but i can link it if you would like

[sick flower]

im not joking though

[orchid owl]

Yeah I remember

[sick flower]

physical is frustrating and not fun

[orchid owl]

I know

[peak halo]

Yeah
Cuz ezier than learn cw swap
Also she not recommended to get as sss

[sick flower]

rotations take ages and only 1 member of the team deals good damage

[carmine reef]

balter rose alisa phys was fun

[orchid owl]

[sick flower]

rose?

[carmine reef]

miss that team

[orchid owl]

Even tho rosetta was non ts

[sick flower]

oh rosetta

[orchid owl]

Rosetta

[peak halo]

Rigor

[normal sierra]

I miss when my horse completely missed her giant arse laser ult too

[sick flower]

i remember hanying replacing stigmata but

[carmine reef]

hanying doesn't replace stigmata

stigmata is attacker

she was replaced by pianissimo

[nova forum]

bro thinks cw scenario happens on all team

[peak halo]

Replaced as main dps only not the team

[sick flower]

thats what i mean

[carmine reef]

what hanying did was replace the fun with awful

[orchid owl]

Do we even have a fun team rn

[peak halo]

For me get fun
Ca alisa han was fun to use

[carmine reef]

yes

[orchid owl]

I guess lightning

[carmine reef]

i actually enjoy most teams

[sick flower]

is leaped stigmata dps worse than hanying

[carmine reef]

ofc

[orchid owl]

"is leaped cw worse than nanami"

[nova forum]

i want hanying to be replaced already

[sick flower]

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT BIG????

[orchid owl]

Maybe not as stark but yes

[noble zinc]

[sick flower]

AND YOU GUYS CALL ME CRAZY FOR SAYING CW SHOULDNT BE COMPARED TO NANAMI BRUH

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

gen 2 vs gen 3 power scale is unfairly stupid

[normal sierra]

back to square one we go

[carmine reef]

the only teams i don't really enjoy rn are phys, raydaince, and dark, even then i actually like lilith a lot but i just don't like bianca nor the weird tank situation

[sick flower]

switch hold ba 3 sig

[orchid owl]

Same

[sick flower]

0 damage

lilith red orb deals more damage than scire rotation 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[tame wagon]

These also in other shops right don't wanna use any more refillers

[carmine reef]

you can buy them from sim shop

[crystal rune]

Man I wish I could go back to ss bica

[orchid owl]

It's in simulation shop

[crystal rune]

5ult is not fun

[sick flower]

who on earth is bica

[orchid owl]

Just freestyle

[crystal rune]

No..

[normal sierra]

you think <sss midanca is fun? man, you have issues kek

[orchid owl]

Idk what refiller is

[crystal rune]

What

[carmine reef]

she's just not fun either way

[sick flower]

not to sound rude but you shouldnt be in this channel

[tame wagon]

Serum

[crystal rune]

It’s a whole lot funner than 5 ult spam

[orchid owl]

But you only get it from sim shop

[crystal rune]

Ss3 bica gameplay was so fun wtf

[nova forum]

rayd?

[carmine reef]

[crystal rune]

Dark

[normal sierra]

it's not. at all. she is 🚮 on the fun department on any rank

[carmine reef]

we have different ideas of fun

[nova forum]

goddamn whel problem

[sick flower]

why did you delete it 😭

[tame wagon]

I didn't mean it like that

[orchid owl]

Isn't that just SS bianca

[crystal rune]

It’s slightly different but yeah

[tame wagon]

They don't read or understand my qeustion

[sick flower]

i mean, this channel is more about end-game stuff, there is a different channel for your questions

[orchid owl]

Your question was misleading
"Refill" can be a lot of things

Just learn some simple terms and you'll get a straight answer

[nova forum]

segs

[tame wagon]

But ur right that laat qeustion prob belong I. Other chat

[wanton hatch]

seg?

[noble zinc]

[sick flower]

and the place you will learn these are #📨・general-help , not #📨・meta-help

who skull reacted me

i will find you

[plain oyster]

[orchid owl]

[wanton hatch]

[peak halo]

[noble zinc]

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/young-sheldon-cat-dance-young-sheldon-cat-dance-sheldon-cooper-gif-13746346842692919825

[orchid owl]

Couldn't find the difference between cw and nanami, you think you can find a person?

[plain oyster]

[noble zinc]

[sick flower]

the difference between cw and nanami is a whole generation

[tame wagon]

Deff no meta xd

Not*

Nanami still used in 4/5 teams peak meta

Most used across diff teams from all unit that exist

[peak halo]

Mine is just 2

[noble zinc]

My lick lick most used

2k+

[peak halo]

For me ish

[normal sierra]

2000 teams, nuke is nuking em teams, 200 every day

[sick flower]

a character can be replaced with a character released 4 characters later

and you are comparing her to a character released 16 characters later

😭

[orchid owl]

That's not how it works

It's based on kit mainly
Then role

[nova forum]

because its funi

[sick flower]

that is how it works
new > old

[orchid owl]

Veronica, Bianca

[wanton hatch]

so she's your most used eh

[crystal rune]

Ish my most used

Can you guess why

[peak halo]

I can

[noble zinc]

[sick flower]

veronica > alisa
veronica > dante
bianca > lamia
bianca > pyroath

[normal sierra]

not yours

[round lake]

Nanami still highest value unit in the entire game btw

[wanton hatch]

why's bainca>prooth there

dahell

[round lake]

[crystal rune]

She is my most used not the account I’m piloting

[orchid owl]

Plasma < raydiance

[sick flower]

refulgence

[crystal rune]

It’s obviously nanami

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362645356432855243.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtMod

[wanton hatch]

oh that, same situation for ib?

[tame wagon]

Am gonna use nanami In fire/lighting/plasma and ignition and raydiance

[sick flower]

good

[tame wagon]

so for me it's 5

[wanton hatch]

add dork

[normal sierra]

and phy... surely can just slap her to phy too

[orchid owl]

Veronica = alisa in most cases unless equal invest
Bianca although objectively better is dogsht compared to Lilith, a free unit.
Again, at equal invest bianca is better but she is extremely underwhelming

[peak halo]

Correction
Sss Light>=ray> plasma

[tame wagon]

Maybe even nihil till i get ish

[sick flower]

i use nanami in fire, ignition, ice, glaciation, lightning, plasma, raydiance, dark, darkflow and nihil

[noble zinc]

Patton nana

[sick flower]

@wanton hatch laviva kill him

[normal sierra]

at least not patton vera

[wanton hatch]

he ain't wrong tho

[tame wagon]

Ur nanami ss ?

[sick flower]

i guess we just cope atp 💔

[orchid owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1429089074135830529/jaAkDaM_4.gif

[wanton hatch]

no cope

[sick flower]

no my nanami is SSS+

[wanton hatch]

if fact no need to deny

[tame wagon]

Sexy

[peak halo]

[normal sierra]

wutdafruit, nuke doesn't know the patton vera lore?

[noble zinc]

[wanton hatch]

[noble zinc]

no

[orchid owl]

Oh no

[plain oyster]

What lore

[sick flower]

"sexy" in question

[normal sierra]

patton vera is iconic, I miss that dude

[orchid owl]

Random guy dropped in saying his vera rozen is better in off ele or something
He had 4 patton on her

[peak halo]

Ohh no
Patton vera rosen dps build

[noble zinc]

[plain oyster]

[sick flower]

would she even benefit from patton

[orchid owl]

This was before patton rework no?

[orchid owl]

Yes

[sick flower]

how

[orchid owl]

Damage

[sick flower]

BRO WHAT DAMAGE ISNT ROZEN DARK

[peak halo]

Donno
That was long time ago

[normal sierra]

abandon 3 pings, 1-2 pings meta, trust

[orchid owl]

Memories such as patton deal tick damage + one big damage when you hit an enemy even with BA

It has like an 8s cd

Doesn't matter if you are off ele

But of course it doesn't take a genius to see how rozen patton was a complete mismatch

[sick flower]

so why not use a correct element if it will do the same thing but better 😭

physical actually

[orchid owl]

Ask him

[sick flower]

was entropy hard to obtain

[orchid owl]

He's in a selector

[peak halo]

He was a back up lao

[sick flower]

THEN WHAT IS THE POINT

[orchid owl]

Of?

[sick flower]

USING ROZEN FOR PHYSICAL

[orchid owl]

The guy clearly had no idea of meta, why are you asking

[sick flower]

ISNT NIGHTBLADE DOING A WAY BETTER JOB?

[orchid owl]

He was dumb as a rock

[sick flower]

not even nightblade

[orchid owl]

No

[sick flower]

huh

[orchid owl]

Rozen would do a better job off ele

[sick flower]

rozen performed better than nightblade in physical

[white oriole]

Is it just me or the WZ this week is low score

[orchid owl]

Watanabe A ranks are dogwater

Their damage is abysmal

[sick flower]

no astral is good

i like astral

[orchid owl]

Good to play, no damage

At S+

[sick flower]

better than rozen

[orchid owl]

Nah

[peak halo]

Double mobs

[orchid owl]

Mobs

[sick flower]

@wanton hatch didnt you say the opposite

okay i think im gonna stop pinging levisha its getting annoying

[white oriole]

Do I even try if I’m in Legend and my wan tap is 14.5M

[sick flower]

sorry levisha

[orchid owl]

Rozen vs. Astral
Rozen wins since she has a damage field after ult + insane damage with leap
Astral is just "boohoo I ran out of orbs"

[peak halo]

Total?
Only if want suffer

[white oriole]

When will the Dark Tank come to save our soul ffs

[sick flower]

well my leaped SSS astral performs slightly better than my leaped SSS rozen even when i take off all of their memories

[peak halo]

Next patch

[round lake]

What is this gen 1 talk

[sick flower]

there wont be a dark tank

[wanton hatch]

never said anything bout nightblade

[white oriole]

Lovely

[sick flower]

its astral vs rozen

[round lake]

We'll never see a Dark Tank again, this is indeed the truth

[sick flower]

arete is breaker, not tank

[plain oyster]

[round lake]

[white oriole]

No Dark Tank is fine, I just need more Nanami then

[round lake]

Daren is the last Dark Tank in PGR

What a way to go

[sick flower]

SCIRE MIGHT BE GOING OFF META BUT SHE WILL FOREVER BE THE LATEST DARK TANK 😭😭

[orchid owl]

Man @sick flower you miss the point every time

I'm gonna shut my eyes

[white oriole]

Ayo new Rosetta right

[sick flower]

which point

[white oriole]

She can break m- I mean what

[wanton hatch]

waht

[peak halo]

[normal sierra]

[peak halo]

A legend

[sick flower]

this is deserved, me being humiliated for pulling cw on oblivion patch is not deserved

[peak halo]

U pulled cuz dont know would she free

[sick flower]

and doesnt she need sss to be good

[normal sierra]

man, just let it go, her time is ancient history by now

[sick flower]

IT WASNT ON OBLIVION

[peak halo]

Yes alpha rest in piece on my hearth

[sick flower]

she was so peak

only to be mocked because of a little ugly bastard

[peak halo]

Yep now need to care about liv

[wanton hatch]

[true pivot]

[crystal rune]

Ômg free moniii

[stray siren]

Money

Hey

Where's the money

[distant wren]

Noooo mods took the money

[round lake]

Mod killed it fast this time

[potent nacelle]

they're sleeping atm.

[plain oyster]

[round lake]

[potent nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-cat-gif-16095083183741136419

[mighty tusk]

What element in IB rn?
I know cradle is the boss

[crystal rune]

Dark II fire I ion I

Another worgil week

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1455530869958905877.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=RAGE

[peak halo]

So dark and lightning

[round lake]

Ew Dark Ion

Gaydiance/Lightning indeed

[peak halo]

Then just vergiling it like nergi

[round lake]

Nerglao has max Worgil & Hanging

[chilly glade]

https://tenor.com/view/car-bounce-meme-funny-bouncing-yaris-gif-7752337837256264745

[orchid owl]

Is plasma so bad that lightning is stronger?

[peak halo]

If cradle and sss light yes

[ripe stag]

Setsu left huh

Man

[wanton hatch]

u take over the sheets

[peak halo]

🥀

[mighty tusk]

everything has gone to sh*t ever since dmc

[exotic fable]

Shi-Yori's harmony sheet when

[mighty tusk]

he'll likely just reuse setsu's harmo sheet and update it from there

@ripe stag take over the harmo sheet

[peak halo]

This so ass
Dalaos kiwi
Pak u kuro

[exotic fable]

Kuro Games devolved into Kuso Games

[mighty tusk]

can't believe we're already paying for dmc meta consequence in ppc

[ripe stag]

Rosetta V4 specifically nerfed her Slash damage to keep Vergil in play

Kuro trying to actually kill their game just to keep DMC players around

[mighty tusk]

yomm mentioned that the off field nerf is too much from 200 > 75%

like 125%-150% might be a decent compromise

[ripe stag]

75% BASE MULTIPLIER?

For what

[crystal rune]

Slash Off field

[ripe stag]

Dark or Slash

[mighty tusk]

I mean truewill x 200%

[ripe stag]

It's still too low

[crystal rune]

Genuinely 90% of the score came from Rosetta off field

[ripe stag]

What was Vergil's again?

[mighty tusk]

dont compare it

[ripe stag]

Exactly

See what I mean
They just wanna keep Vergil around

[crystal rune]

They didn’t keep Dante around

[ripe stag]

And it's still not enough

[crystal rune]

What

[mighty tusk]

free unit

and fodder unit

[crystal rune]

It was at 50m

[ripe stag]

"not motivated enough",

[crystal rune]

How was it not enough

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362645356432855243.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtMod

[ripe stag]

The main focus was obviously Vergil

[mighty tusk]

you already know veronica is the reason for that

[ripe stag]

Dante didn't even had 10% of the SFX accuracy as vergil

[ripe stag]

Yep

[ripe stag]

They could have nerfed it to like ~25m for Slash warzone but no...17m

[crystal rune]

Brcause they don’t even play their own game

No balancing whatsoever

[ripe stag]

Game balance has been dead since forever

I too am thinking about leaving this game

[peak halo]

Kill vergilllll

[ripe stag]

Or making it a side game

[crystal rune]

It’s already my side game

I log in mald Monday for 2h and quit for the rest of the week

[ripe stag]

I enjoy FGO more than PGR nowadays

[crystal rune]

And do IB ppc until Wednesday

[ripe stag]

That's how bad PGR has become

[peak halo]

U became play like me

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1034805339079581756.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=NODDERS~1

[ripe stag]

I just hop in for 10 mins before reset everyday
And do warzone and PPC before weekly reset on Monday

I have lost all motivation of playing this game

[peak halo]

Like lot of us

[young badge]

real shi?

[peak halo]

I instead go play aether than bald pgr

[ripe stag]

I'm thinking about playing WWM

Heard the game is good

[peak halo]

Yeah good world and story

[wanton hatch]

fun

come play

[solemn berry]

I want to play pgr but I can't

[crystal rune]

I’m stuck

[forest wind]

Help, step commandant?

[forest wind]

Vergil's storm is too much for Kuro to handle

[sonic tide]

Dark wata hero reach 11.5m pretty good

[wanton hatch]

should be more

mobs trash tho, play once then not touch for whole week

[sonic tide]

Welp yeah idnt rlly mald in hero

[wanton hatch]

just unga bunga

[keen meteor]

Its good

[clever gulch]

hello, i already have some CUBs, missing the one of pyroath, epitath, aegis, ishmael, solacetune, oblivion and shukra, in which order should i get their cubs ?

[gray totem]

ishmael and oblivion, solacetune

the others arent worth getting except maybe pyroath

shukra isnt even meta anymore

[golden merlin]

play soonfield trust

[keen sable]

wwm is pretty fun

endfield is for people that dont like combat games

[ebon adder]

how to quick ult bonca

[hoary lintel]

In ppc scenario?

[wanton hatch]

hold dodge - hold ba - 3r - ult

[ebon adder]

thanks

[ebon adder]

yup

[hoary lintel]

Dont forget to have dlt activated

[noble zinc]

bully

How'd I even went there

[young badge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G7hz93PaMAA42ER.gif

[noble zinc]

[young badge]

when u have nitro

pak whel

🐳

[noble zinc]

Trial again got

[buoyant hornet]

Sorry I completely forgot to actually post the response, rn your roster is incomplete and I don't think you can build a full semi-functional team enough to clear the last 2 stages in clash reflection

You could try luna nanami teddy but yeah idk if it'll work tbh

Did you mean harmony?

[buoyant hornet]

nuke have you seen or tried teddy glacio zaza lol

[noble zinc]

3s teddy/3s echo like 1 wave diff

Casul not min max

6.7 smthing I think did last

Mob total mess can't even test properly

[young badge]

which one higher

[noble zinc]

Echo ofc

[young badge]

PGR_AlisaPower

[noble zinc]

I can do diff types of strat with her

Which is just better

Still boss zone/ duo need mob delulu

[limber yoke]

hax god still on the rise

[noble zinc]

[hoary dagger]

[sonic tide]

[mighty tusk]

<@&595893856554319873>

[brisk sage]

[mighty tusk]

Maybe the free money could have been a wake up call to kuro to start balancing their game

[sonic tide]

U mean no revenue when rosetta out going to awake them

[normal sierra]

me was just a spectator enjoying the show back then

[eager oasis]

when is ishmael better than the equivalent amp/tank?

SS3 karenina, sig wep VS SS ishmael + sig
SS no21 no wep VS SS ishmael + sig

[mighty tusk]

ish for both dark and lightning

[stray siren]

https://youtu.be/KdftbYqA_VQ?si=HLiGoigRojCC2nmI

[mighty tusk]

send the actual link scam to kuro hq as protest to their fcked up balancing

[stray siren]

[carmine roost]

Rosetta better for dark

.

[plain oyster]

[barren plank]

Can sm1 help me w IB this week Im too lazy to think

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/14107661/characters

[peak halo]

Dark light(ion) which was the 3rd?

[plain oyster]

Ignition

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

[plain oyster]

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

This week is sht

Why ib always had overlapped teams

[noble zinc]

What boss it is

[peak halo]

If i know cradle
I even not open i just heard

I also slacc ppc to weekend

[noble zinc]

Ye only bald if 1% possible

[noble zinc]

light need ish much rembeer
How I do dark then

[peak halo]

Yes

Ion need lilith how i do dark then

[plain oyster]

[noble zinc]

Ion also need nana

Burn ded

[peak halo]

So ingni is the way

[crystal rune]

Worgil

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/843856758899343411.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=catvibe2

[peak halo]

[noble zinc]

3s worgik can off elemnt better?

[crystal rune]

No

3S worgil no rights

Or maybe

you can ask Xale

[noble zinc]

Idc much will just one tap later as usual

[peak halo]

But i mean dark igni

[noble zinc]

Nana super slow will be seems

3s time don't remember

@crystal rune

[crystal rune]

Super slow and bad damage

Just use dentge for burn

[peak halo]

I get 17s or smt

[noble zinc]

R1 s pet donut

[crystal rune]

Why so broke

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/916579579769008228.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=karencri

[peak halo]

But its was my scote so dono max

[barren plank]

Nuke can u help me w IB

I dont need rot ref just tell me what teams I should use I can mald myself

[noble zinc]

I don't play low invest ib anymore am know very less
What invest your let's see

[barren plank]

Im not super low invest I have quite a few SS3 and SSS to work with

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/14107661/characters

[carmine roost]

Does anyone have the single img that has all the necessary resources to max 1 Chara?

[noble zinc]

Ls there it was much rembeer

Ask ken

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

Wait

[carmine roost]

Thanks

[barren plank]

I feel like dark is a no brainer but idk what to do for the other two stages

There’s also the question of where do I use Luna

Should I run Lilith Wata Luna or maybe a Luna dps on the other stage?

I have 2.12.12 lightning, Liv stronk bur dunno if it’s enough to match the high invest of other teams

Also have strong glacio to fall back on

[noble zinc]

What time dark you can get

https://youtu.be/N6xnDIh37xQ?si=BL7kZ0_hsvGAn8UR

19 glacio

And light seems it

Ref can't find for light

If less that 23 can then it is

Or else burn

Solo nana

[barren plank]

Tf 4Chen Echo

Cottie harmo wanshi?

Ill do it but like tf

[barren plank]

Last time I got 21s

[noble zinc]

[barren plank]

That was different dark weather but I also now have SSS Luna

[peak halo]

[barren plank]

19s glacio looks hard as balls but whatever ill try it

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

Sss nihil how much sec on cradle

[barren plank]

I only have SSS Luna

Ish SS0

Too slow

Unless u mean just full force Luna dps

[peak halo]

Luna qte and lilith dps

Can able to get a kinda number if know the meta time

I also in truble with that ib

Cant use ish in 2 zone
And no relevent substitude

[peak halo]

Also that should be not work

[barren plank]

I tested lightning it’s too slow

Guess it’s just dark glacio

[peak halo]

[hoary dagger]

no pls don't do it, use teddy instead & use my 19s hell powered run as ref, it easily one tap 19s

[sonic tide]

Have Sss teddy and wata?

[hoary dagger]

r2 & s cub luna not enough dmg for 18s

[sonic tide]

Yeah i think more into S cub prob ngl tht 5% edb do gib dmg

So how many hp bar left?

[barren plank]

My Teddy not SSS

[hoary dagger]

doable with ss3

[barren plank]

Wait huh? This is for glacio right

[hoary dagger]

yes glacio, selena 4 sig 4 kle, wanshi 4 chen 2 eins 2 glo teddy 4 dv 4 guin

[true pivot]

is teddy glacio better?

[round lake]

SSS Teddy better for me

Tight af rot though

[barren plank]

Wait why is that better? More heal?

[true pivot]

full rot?

[barren plank]

You have to do double stab double dodge

[hoary dagger]

more buff, she only better for ppc/ib tho

[visual topaz]

What in IB

[hoary dagger]

cradle dark II / ignition I / plasma I

[barren plank]

Wait is SS3 Teddy better or equal to SSS Echo

[hoary dagger]

better

[barren plank]

Wow

Stronk af

[barren plank]

Thing is tho I had to leave for 2 weeks so I dont have DV set resod to Teddy

Will I still kill?

[hoary dagger]

might need 6 class reso

[solemn berry]

If my alisa is ss0r1 and teddy is ss3r1 then is teddy just better in wz or still not worth

[barren plank]

I think Teddy is always better for people without SSS Echo

Dont quote me on that tho

[visual topaz]

Thanks

[solemn berry]

I'm quoting you on this one

[barren plank]

Ok so I have a problem

Even if Im getiing ult2 in amp timer

Glacio gauge runs out

[hoary dagger]

did u use wanshi ult

[barren plank]

Just go faster still?

[round lake]

U just have to be a bit quicker at every part

[barren plank]

Yes

[round lake]

[barren plank]

Dont ult?

[round lake]

Easier if no Ult

[graceful summit]

[barren plank]

Ok fair enough

[graceful summit]

No wanshi ult

[round lake]

Or u can just set up Keklena Ult for next swap

[graceful summit]

Then hold ult on Selena to trigger glacio

[round lake]

Which is what I did

Makes it a tiny bit less tight

[hoary dagger]

yea don't ult, here use hell powered run as ref https://youtu.be/7w1RjiTHB_E

[sonic tide]

Lao

[round lake]

I believe enemies can actually hit stun u for one nano second and ruin the entire rot

Or may be it's my potato phone

[ripe stag]

Should I play PGR

[sonic tide]

Nu

[ripe stag]

[stray siren]

🫵➕🧀 > >

[solemn berry]

No

[rigid kiln]

hi can somoene please help this beginner i just downloaded the game and i would love to min max the playthrough through this beautiful game

[solemn berry]

Well I guess this place just died

[rigid kiln]

well...

can i just use whatever i want and find cool and still have fun while clearing content ?

[solemn berry]

For now yes try not to pull yet

If you are

Don't pull teddy because she's free

[round lake]

U wanna min max huh, you're in for a hellish run

[solemn berry]

Not really

It's not that bad unless he's minmaxing in the gamemodes

In overall decisions minmaxing isn't bad

[rigid kiln]

i played a little bit earlier and saw that i cna get alpha for free

[solemn berry]

You can use her but don't invest too much

[rigid kiln]

ohh i liked her a bit

so she is not that good

okay

[true pivot]

no

[round lake]

First, pull Vera Geiravor from Basic Research AKA Standard banner
Second, pull Nanami Startrail from Thunderbolt Research
Third, save up for the next S rank

[true pivot]

am washed

[gray totem]

dont pull nanami imo

we are likely to get a selector soon

why even bother wasting bc

[round lake]

As if they would let u get her for free

[solemn berry]

I mean you could just pull nanami and then get someone else on the selector instead

Also i doubt they're going to give us nanomy for free that soon

[round lake]

At best it'd be up to Pyrowashed let's be real

[rigid kiln]

so that blue ticket research which has 100% chance i select vera geiravor right ?

[round lake]

Yup yup

[solemn berry]

Why did it say nanomi that's not a that's not even what i said this is the speech to text is so wrong so wrong i mean i can say lucia pyrof and it will get it okay nevermind that won't

[gray totem]

usually they are up to last year's anni which is ishmael

[round lake]

Nanami still the highest value unit for 1 year straight

They would never

[rigid kiln]

and sorry to ask but like how does rotations work in this game? i usually see people only use one character and i am a bit confused

[round lake]

My value tier list, time to be jumped by dalaos in this place

[rigid kiln]

i came from WUWA thats why

[solemn berry]

I'd bump luna down to mid

[round lake]

Nope here we're rotating mostly
But depending on investment things can change

From WuWa huh, how about I speak in WuWa language

[solemn berry]

Uhhh

Forte something

[rigid kiln]

yeah qte

[solemn berry]

You don't have elemntal reactions

[round lake]

Vera Gei is Lupa if she had Carte damage

[rigid kiln]

ohhh so basically really nice dps

[solemn berry]

Yes

DPS amplifier

Amplifiers are better supports

[rigid kiln]

so we have tank, amplifier, dps right ?

[solemn berry]

Damage is somewhat influenced by role but it's mainly based on time of release

[solemn berry]

Usually

But

BUT

[gray totem]

get liv in washed tier also how the f is hanying above vero

[solemn berry]

If the dps isn't an attacker

You can have

Amplifier (dps), tank, another amplifier

But only if the dps isn't an attacker

Because attackers don't have buffs

[gray totem]

aint no way lilith is below liv

[round lake]

In this game class isn't normal
Tank = King class, debuffer with damage
Amp = Queen class, buffer with damage
Attacker = The bump ass

[rigid kiln]

kk also should i worry about optimal rotations and teams or just have fun for now ?

[round lake]

Free unit got lower tier from me

[solemn berry]

So you can't do attacker, tank, attacker because you need that amplifier buff

[round lake]

Teddy is just so goat she's on top

[gray totem]

that up to you

[solemn berry]

You don't need to worry unless you're in warzone or phantom pain cage

The earlier the better

[rigid kiln]

okay is there a video or something which i can watch for how rotations work in pgr

[round lake]

PPC is basically the ToA of this game
WZ is WhiWa

[solemn berry]

Yeah there's seperate videos though

[rigid kiln]

ah okay

[round lake]

Except it's super ez to get full gacha rewards

[solemn berry]

Since you can have a ton of combinations

You mainly fight for other rewards

And

[barren plank]

@deft apex Sorry last time I will ping, can you just make this the photo in the teams list FAQ plz

[solemn berry]

DON'T SKIP

[rigid kiln]

oh so people do it for ranking rather than premiuim currency as thats easy to get ?

[solemn berry]

DON'T SKIP PAID S RANK

[gray totem]

new chart just dropped

[solemn berry]

What change myclao

[barren plank]

@distant wren @spiral merlin Revised version

[round lake]

Yes, mostly
But PPC has another thing which is Skulls, u use it to upgrade ur chars to SS so it's quite important

[rigid kiln]

ohh okayy

[barren plank]

Im not lao

Just some more specifications for teddy ice, and I changed the names of effect team categories to clear up possible misinformation and confusion

Edited DF and Radiance notes slightly

[rigid kiln]

the combat looookssss soo good but so complicated man its enticing

[solemn berry]

Another one has been caufht

It's over

I'm sorry little one

Don't end up like me

[gray totem]

minor spelling mistake on kaleido

[round lake]

Can he survive this hell

[gray totem]

it's joever

[round lake]

But well it's lucky to even get someone who's interested in the meta

[barren plank]

Fck me

[solemn berry]

Make sure to play other games

[spiral merlin]

mainly fine now though still something i would add like vero listed as subdps for ts is very questionable so prob a note saying shes more a buffer than any enabling or subdps

[deft apex]

oh yea mb

[solemn berry]

Wait

[barren plank]

Wait nvm

[solemn berry]

Don't yet uncle