📨・meta-help

[true pivot]

has always been

i dont know why ppl recommend her ss3 over alisa 3s on anyone that isnt vergil as of now

[carmine roost]

No one had ss3 to see how sht was Bad Dragon gurl

Only math

[peak halo]

When me with sss vero
Just cant redo tha score with sss alisa

[carmine roost]

Duh

[verbal forge]

Welp ill stick with alisa and try again

[carmine roost]

Fck whel

3s bad dragon

[peak halo]

Atleast my burn good

[true pivot]

im trying a diff rot now

[peak halo]

I issue with the skill

[true pivot]

hope it works, but it will probably benefit alisa

[peak halo]

For vero i just yellow taps ult1 tap yellow
Not ping blues
But donno thats sss only

[limber yoke]

i have

[true pivot]

ss3 need sp

[peak halo]

Sad

[steady otter]

so guys

for ss0 ppl

[mighty tusk]

<@&595893856554319873> will these free money help kuro develop a better balancing

[steady otter]

midanca pretty sure ded next patch right

[wanton hatch]

[mighty tusk]

I remember seeing a beta run without bianca getting 9 mil?

or am I misremembering the score

[steady otter]

fastest meta cons died

deserve

[mighty tusk]

I think the run is in office

[sweet timber]

is there gonna be major changes in the memory we have rn? ive been seeing talk about 6 piece da vinci build for the next update is that true

[steady otter]

just let her die pls
is just cringe using her
i cant

[mighty tusk]

oh wait, the 9 mil run with ss0 rosetta was TS and not dark

[peak halo]

[median shell]

[verbal forge]

Bruh its still there

Ill remove

[mighty tusk]

@steady otter https://b23.tv/lA6GVYe
nvm it's actually 9 mil

[steady otter]

so what the different with & without her

[mighty tusk]

no idea
it was just sent in the office

plus v4 is coming soon

so might expect changes again

[deft apex]

Bianca is so cringe to use i agree

[steady otter]

also, hard to trust ss wz gameplay except nuke gameplay

[true pivot]

"sorry guys, we did a typo. so here are the changes:"

truewill stacks x 200% trueslash damage per second for 12 seconds.

truewill stacks x 2000% trueslash damage per second for 12 seconds. this can be prolonged during timelag calculation.

[steady otter]

nuke the only guy i can trust

[carmine roost]

Nude dalao

[mighty tusk]

nudelao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1456864563369611517/795A1F87C73428F1D6A477F224076CCC.gif

[wanton hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856524351407128587/1452508506510065866/o4xg4rMfQWDsgeItgAQIAfLAC2vD8Gk2kLZCAe.gif

[simple dew]

tf is that image

[mighty tusk]

I have no idea

blame cn and their weird kinks

[jovial current]

who is better amp for glacio: ss0 r0 alisa or ss0 r0 tebby?

[mighty tusk]

I've heard teddy does better, but that means you wont be doing any double ult wanshi

[orchid owl]

Need alisa for wz since she can refresh glacio

[gray totem]

even if she doesnt die next patch i refuse to use her after rosetta

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936178936684109835/1456596658841194682/32EEB1992E36574DC350586D43AEC76F.gif

[gray totem]

acording to feyer it's teddy

[true pivot]

oh golly, lets hope alisa doesnt surpass this one

[sonic tide]

Is tht ss3 vero

[true pivot]

yea

mid score tho

[sonic tide]

[true pivot]

idk how much can phy get now

[sonic tide]

Welp dnt ask me diff tier and diff investment

[true pivot]

why

u lao

why not

EOS~1

[sonic tide]

Me hero and me use sss hanying

Rather do tht than ss3 bero pak bero

[hoary dagger]

[sonic tide]

[true pivot]

fk whel

[hoary dagger]

fk whel

[sonic tide]

fk whel

Ngl idnt want to hear from ppl who dare to ss3 bero

[true pivot]

huh, it might be closer than i thought

[true pivot]

ok but i was coping

[sonic tide]

So what's the benefits of ss3 bero?

[true pivot]

and hoping

that being a g3 amp would buff insane

[sonic tide]

sss

[normal sierra]

yesterday was "beeg score, waa!"
today it's "noodle score, ha ha!"
new chars just can't get a break

[gray totem]

noodle score is when 50m

[carmine roost]

Mf

[sonic tide]

[keen sable]

2 dogshit zones aaaaaaaa

i do wz on sunday

[orchid owl]

SS3? Nah, straight to 3S

[sonic tide]

But she's so bad i refuse

[orchid owl]

I just did it because I thought igni might be more prevalent

I couldn't be wronger

[keen sable]

i did ss3 vera

[sonic tide]

We r talking bout vero why vera

[keen sable]

amp is amp

[sonic tide]

Nu uh for vera

[verbal forge]

[keen sable]

this week is free free

[digital moss]

current meta team list?

[mighty tusk]

https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1456737941811499123

[limber yoke]

i do

[sonic tide]

Understandable u whel and lao

[limber yoke]

im washed now

[gray totem]

who isnt

[crystal rune]

Taishi

[true pivot]

aiyaiyai

[steady otter]

im ur little butterfly

[true pivot]

no ur not

i dont wan u

[carmine roost]

Oh my fcking bears

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/438940199104544778.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[mighty tusk]

oh no, snazz gonna kiwi too

[sonic tide]

Oh noo

[mighty tusk]

matt also pissed at kuro

[sonic tide]

At this point who doesn't?

[mighty tusk]

managed to piss meta players for being too broken at high ranks that other teams can't compare to wherever rosetta is
pissed of dmc players assuming rosetta works with vergil
pissed of the content creators and vips that kuro keeps treating like sh*t
pissed of cn as well

keep adding more

[sonic tide]

Watch they gonna pissed everyone in CNY newyear 250 yellow ticket, for rosetta im afraid no more tank but breaker characters, so the gap score getting wider between 2.3 and 3 invest player

[mighty tusk]

I forgot, setsu about to kiwi too...RIP kuro

and someone named SCP in cn

[upbeat phoenix]

that's gonna suck

why is she so broken at 3s btw?

[sonic tide]

At this point everyone going to be, look at bianca and liv difference

Ask kuro why

[upbeat phoenix]

nah as in, what buff does 3s give to make the difference so huge

[mighty tusk]

it's not just sss

it's her class passive

plus the change to da vinci

[sonic tide]

Im still processing the 47m ts score ngl

Diabolical

[mighty tusk]

TS is nerfed now

not sure how that will translate to live and whether it's enough to bench vergil

[sonic tide]

Welp let's see later

I dnt even know why Rosetta affix is TS

[true pivot]

its enough to bench

[sonic tide]

And she can't shred TS but upgraded tank class

[mighty tusk]

to replace vergil seeing she does no shred

[mighty tusk]

I just want ss rosetta to bench sss vergil tbh

[sonic tide]

Yeah exactly so sss-sss+ bergil player sorry

[mighty tusk]

get those collab units out of the meta

still need dedicated burn dps that is not veronica

[sonic tide]

This guy ngl going to be pissed

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

[upbeat phoenix]

I am pissed

[sonic tide]

Imagine

[mighty tusk]

browse the group more, you'll 100% see those that aren't pleased with rosetta

[sonic tide]

Welp for me i want my umazing not umabot

[true pivot]

im so happy

[mighty tusk]

welp, now people have to pay the consequence for dmc meta
they're making sure rosetta is sellable

[sonic tide]

But we got uma too broken

[wind hemlock]

Kuro on their way to make the most amazing animations do the lowest damage

[simple dew]

its funny seeing the sss vergil and dante bros weeping

[mighty tusk]

they better not complain that a limited unit being part of the meta and being busted is a bad idea and would backfire at them

now even IB is affected by that sh*t

[simple dew]

vergil no longer dominates ib

[mighty tusk]

no more worgil off-element on cradle nor tifa

[simple dew]

cant wait till something like that would come to regular ppc

[mighty tusk]

lowkey affects me ngl

always use glacio on bosses that are too tanky and my team sucks

[simple dew]

me with fire

[mighty tusk]

well, atleast being off-element does not mean BiS
gtfo worgil

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/862262819679371304/1404868844820103229/GIF-250812_104618.gif

[buoyant hornet]

@dawn cloak teddy outmogs ss0 echo in wz as well confirmed lol

https://youtu.be/sdxWVzT9iKQ

If you remember a couple weeks ago we also found she outmogs her in ppc

Now this

[plain oyster]

[mighty tusk]

mind you this may not work at higher invests

especially in IB

[buoyant hornet]

Nah high invest teddy ppc > high invest echo in most cases

SSS teddy gives 10% more buff than SSS echo and doesn't sacrifice as many things as warzone does

[mighty tusk]

depends if your rot takes longer than gauge would allow it

[simple dew]

dont you run out of gauge

[mighty tusk]

highly depends on what time you're aiming

plus the boss

if boss is not too tanky, teddy would be better

[chilly glade]

Finally, no more hanying. I use rosetta all day

plus dark team

[mighty tusk]

surely rosetta can shred phy

surely she has def shred

[plain oyster]

[chilly glade]

i mean its gonna be crazy when next patch starts

[keen sable]

i dont have vergil

for me its bianca to the bench

[true pivot]

guess what happened to rosetta

[keen sable]

what happened

[buoyant hornet]

yeah fair

[buoyant hornet]

She doesn't function as a physical or trueslash tank

[buoyant hornet]

LMFAO

[keen sable]

it needs to go

[buoyant hornet]

Her ts kit got gutted to hell in v4

[chilly glade]

ik, but im using her as support

[keen sable]

i mean she still dps for truslash no?

[mighty tusk]

Yes, looks balanced "for now"

[buoyant hornet]

At s+ invest her score went from 47m to 17m

[spiral merlin]

Balanced

[buoyant hornet]

In the transition between v3 and v4

[mighty tusk]

Unless cn optimized their run more

[true pivot]

blanced fr

[buoyant hornet]

They ruined her instead of balance as usual

[keen sable]

tahts fine i just need something to replace my stigmata

[spiral merlin]

Seems like they over overcompensated

Beta extend for 2 days for this

[buoyant hornet]

Regardless she'll be good for low invest accounts but how good, we will see

[mighty tusk]

V5 next
Also why does 2 pc new burana not remove noise stacks

[buoyant hornet]

Ig they expected they might've overshot with the nerfs

[spiral merlin]

Because kuso incompetence as always

[spiral merlin]

We hope

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly their whole policy of never rebalancing characters after live release is just questionable

At least permit buffs to bad units like ss bianca

[gray totem]

calling it

She will release with v4 scores

[spiral merlin]

Never rebalancing unless it's under the guise of a 'bug fix'

Or if your name is capri

[limber yoke]

or selena

[keen sable]

u forgot ss liv

rather put resources into nanami then ss liv

pig unit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804748436616118314/1433802411159588984/image0.gif

[true pivot]

v5 looking fun now inni

[spiral merlin]

O right yeah the pianissimo '''buff'''

[mighty tusk]

Honestly only way to "balance" rosetta is removing the qte charges and removing 6 pc dv

[mighty tusk]

And selena and pyroath

And why is discord sending msgs late

[buoyant hornet]

Her being dookie on release is just 😭

[buoyant hornet]

That no one has found a single use for yet

[keen sable]

anniversary char btw

[mighty tusk]

The "buff" that does not change her rot in both wz and ppc

[spiral merlin]

Surely it's all one sick joke

[noble zinc]

Pak ss no rights
SSS min rights

[spiral merlin]

And kuso hasn't realised it's bugged and it should remove dissonance

[mighty tusk]

If it did remove noise stacks, it would be a decent buff for glacio IF they're not gonna rework glacio into allowing selena double rot

[spiral merlin]

Would be great for phys too

[sonic tide]

[buoyant hornet]

Anniversary "OOOH SHE'S LIMITED THIS CHARACTER IS SO GOOD HAVE SOME FOMO" character mind you

[mighty tusk]

How will you insert it into new sss rot though?

[noble zinc]

🐳

[peak halo]

No there rights, just suffer

[buoyant hornet]

yeah lmao

[gray totem]

billions must skip liv

[spiral merlin]

New sss rot is 111 so it just works

[sonic tide]

Imagine whel i might kiwi this year

[noble zinc]

[buoyant hornet]

Even my f2p ass got her ss3 because her ss0 is so garbage

Skipping DMC stonks 🙏

[mighty tusk]

Ngl, would rather have qte shred for hanying so her field time is lessened and vero does onfield

[true pivot]

how do i find use for this stupid dragon

[sonic tide]

333 or no use

[gray totem]

burn take or leave it

or sss her

[spiral merlin]

Vero onfielding on Phys is pretty great with sss Phys

[buoyant hornet]

SURELY leap on nirvatia patch

SURELY

[spiral merlin]

Hanying already is pretty quick

[mighty tusk]

Also, hanying still has no 100 def shred without cath

[spiral merlin]

I don't think Vero is good enough to outdo that at least

[sonic tide]

Leap but the shards not available in bp voucher same for ish leap imagine

[gray totem]

the evil and intemedating wanshi leap:

[spiral merlin]

Phys is just a cooked team

[buoyant hornet]

Leap will make her outdamage selena except all the dmg happens in 4s TRUST

[mighty tusk]

Just need 100% base dmg buff for both selena ult

[spiral merlin]

[gray totem]

if v3 rosetta went through we could've used her in phys to save our sanity

[mighty tusk]

At the expense of selena being benched in favor of vergil

Thanks kuro

You made vergil too strong now

[gray totem]

two birds with 1 stone

[buoyant hornet]

Watch them leap bridget instead

[sonic tide]

Nah watch v4 gonna be like v2 but less broken

[spring seal]

That's less I want a full 200% base dmg buff on her full rot

[buoyant hornet]

And make her hold basic hitbox so fat it covers 3 continents and never whiffs again

And lingers for 2s

[mighty tusk]

3500 x (1+ 200%) x2 = 21000% flower ult

[spring seal]

I wonder if Pyroath got leap how it would work

[sonic tide]

And no cd for flower ult

[buoyant hornet]

42k% ult TRUST

[spring seal]

Yessirrr

[buoyant hornet]

5 eclipse ults in 3 seconds

[mighty tusk]

Badly needs to trigger off field with slash ult

[buoyant hornet]

Every red ping gives full ult energy + does 7000% dmg

[mighty tusk]

It's stuck on eclipse ult

[buoyant hornet]

And refuns 17 orbs after ult

[mighty tusk]

Sss pyroath still loses to sss dante in gwyn btw

[buoyant hornet]

I imagine an easy leap feature would be letting her ult1 automatically fill the sword gauge once so she can instantly hold basic > slash

[spring seal]

Yeahh

[buoyant hornet]

That'd let her do slash>slash>eclipse for example

[true pivot]

holy chirst, how is alisa doing so much better than her when she is running 2philip or even 2cath

[spring seal]

Also imagine how much powercreep must have happened if Nanami got a leap ☠️

[buoyant hornet]

Nana leap would be insane

Every element would use nana main dps atp

[mighty tusk]

That depends if they're gonna give nanami some mechanics similar to rosetta

[buoyant hornet]

Nana outdps ion pyrooath

[mighty tusk]

Like how luna got hers from leap

Matrix extension kinda pog?

[spring seal]

Mann i wonder how my Wife's leap gonna be now(Ishmael)

[gray totem]

holy based

[buoyant hornet]

Btw imagine leap lucia rot:

Ult1 > slash ult > hold basic > slash ult > 2-3x 3red > eclipse ult

And ult1 gives free 3 orbs to allow her to run without dlt

[mighty tusk]

It's her hold ba that significantly slows her down

[buoyant hornet]

She already effectively got leaped when breaker class happened

[gray totem]

why are they barely leaping these days

[mighty tusk]

And iirc, hold ba buffs ult

[mighty tusk]

They do

Usually with 2-3 patch gap

[buoyant hornet]

We always had gap patches between leaps lol, last leap was literally the previous patch

It just feels longer because of sync ruining our time perception

[mighty tusk]

Now its roll the dice whether hanying or pyroath gets a leap

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah star mark is locked to hold basic (SSS gets free star mark without it though)

[spring seal]

Wait but how will she turn into "Breaker" class then??!?

[buoyant hornet]

Bridget leap: makes her S rank fire breaker with qte nuke

[noble zinc]

@limber yoke how much you think phy rn can sea
Ching chong 900 best got

[limber yoke]

whos chingchong

oh cn

[buoyant hornet]

Just copy whatever element has breaker instead of tank class

Currently the only way of doing that is running her with lilith but later on we'll def get more breakers and more options

[limber yoke]

idk im washed with phys

[noble zinc]

What score now

[limber yoke]

+7m

[spring seal]

Oooh i see

[gray totem]

roach dies plz

[limber yoke]

one tap for now

[noble zinc]

What wave

Bear zone ahh

[mighty tusk]

If pyroath gets skipped for leap, that means she's gonna get another frame

[gray totem]

wait

[noble zinc]

Hero least scoring good

[gray totem]

does she copy breaker

?

[limber yoke]

yes

[gray totem]

that crazy

[buoyant hornet]

@mighty tusk I just realized this now means ish ppc will be suboptimal whenever trailblazer is rolled on the same week as a dark boss

You basically lose free matrix lightning effect

[gray totem]

so the meta nihil is now lilith?

[mighty tusk]

I dont even use ish in TB

My ish is still cubless

[buoyant hornet]

For SSS teams and higher, currently for lower invests sss wata is still better

[gray totem]

no i mean after rosetta

[buoyant hornet]

Much more consistent higher shred + swap cd reduction

More valuable than a 4 second edr shred buff overall

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah ik

[gray totem]

hmm

[noble zinc]

seems fair 8.7 seems similar to duo it is

[peak halo]

I just use loona

[buoyant hornet]

It'll probably be like this for ss0-ss3 ishmael:

SSS wata> SSS lilith > SSS Teddy > SS3 wata

In warzone*

In ppc different things can work

[crystal rune]

I’d say sss Teddy over ss3 Wata but yea

[limber yoke]

k 3s ish

[buoyant hornet]

I forgot

[mighty tusk]

I might do that on knight-chaos. Hell will be done by selena

[buoyant hornet]

[mighty tusk]

Wait, I might end up using glacio against hell primal prj

[sonic tide]

Wym score good legeng can 13m dark hero only 11m

[buoyant hornet]

You and your obiz invest selena LMAO

[noble zinc]

Leg rn dark don't know but phy hero good i mean

[mighty tusk]

I remember end up getting around 19 sec with dark lilith

[noble zinc]

7.6+ my cap

[buoyant hornet]

Overkill party lmfao

[mighty tusk]

But 30 mil boss with off-element glacio can get 15 sec hell

Primal proj is only 27

[crystal rune]

Budget worgil

[buoyant hornet]

My dark hero zone has literally 4 different instances of mobs surviving Lilith ult's first hit by like 1/4 of a bar

[sonic tide]

Oh my bad i thought overall

[buoyant hornet]

Actually tragic

[buoyant hornet]

I have 18s after ss bianca released but I'm sure obiz invest glacio is faster still

[buoyant hornet]

wow

[buoyant hornet]

Rose would've been able to get that kill time if it wasn't for projection getting booted the same patch smh

[mighty tusk]

Oh wait, outlier will have a 27 mil hp boss

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lmfaooo

[mighty tusk]

Meanwhile madorea somehow lives

Ok kuro

[spring seal]

I wonder if Selena Leap gonna remove the whole noise thing from her kit or maybe give her smaller ult a noteworthy buff while buffing her flower ult aswell

[crystal rune]

Keep madorea

It’s fun

[mighty tusk]

Reserving it for alpha see

[buoyant hornet]

I'll leave my smurf accounts after I clear their weeklies but on rose patch I'll log them back in to get rose

[crystal rune]

50m boss for alpha

[mighty tusk]

She has too many weird number issues

Restrictions with blue too

[buoyant hornet]

Alpha qte nuke at SS0 TRUST

[crystal rune]

I hope not

[mighty tusk]

Also orchestra ult somehow exists in today's era

[crystal rune]

Ss0 players will suffer

[buoyant hornet]

And I mean a real qte nuke not the bootleg bullsht liv had

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/903900030606397460.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=yay~1

[spring seal]

Real

[mighty tusk]

And giving blue orb buff via base dmg increase isn't gonna work

[spring seal]

And tbh her orchestra ult is so beautiful aswell that I don't like skipping it

[mighty tusk]

If the multiplier is 2000-3000, it might be ok

Then moving that flower ult to 5000

[spring seal]

Yea might work

[crystal rune]

I propose we just delete Selena

[mighty tusk]

Ok worgil salesman

[spring seal]

Best decision is they give her leap which somehow brings Orchestra to 20k and 30k to Flower

[buoyant hornet]

At least give her a mechanic like lilith and vera in which certain conditions add separate damage ticks to the ult animation, if they wanna avoid overinflating the flower ult scaling

[distant wren]

hope pgr players are having fun

[mighty tusk]

They missed the memo with bianca

[spring seal]

Yea not happening broski I'm gonna use Ishmael and Selena till EOS their kits are funni and they are drop dead gorgeous for me and they are WIVES

[crystal rune]

Ok

[buoyant hornet]

For example every white orb pings gives a 500% dmg tick during any version of her ults

[crystal rune]

Selena mid in looks, wife material and gameplay

[buoyant hornet]

That'd be a cool way to make both of them worth using without having to break flower ult's own multiplier

[crystal rune]

And story mid too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1034805339079581756.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=NODDERS~1

[distant wren]

[buoyant hornet]

also yes lmao

[spring seal]

For you*

Not for me

[distant wren]

"skk can i munch on your pp" the character

very good story ofc

[crystal rune]

No that’s Lilith

[distant wren]

[crystal rune]

I would let her tho

[median spade]

thats so real nergi me too

[sick flower]

we all agree with you nergi

[median spade]

nuke stop pilot

[noble zinc]

[median spade]

[crystal rune]

Wanna read sandbina fanfics with me

[median spade]

wait no don't stop pilot, pilot my glaciation for me

[peak halo]

Here nuke will be good for me too

But i not
I slacc now

[noble zinc]

[carmine reef]

Dam bro rly shakin dat thang

[main latch]

I took a break for a little under 3 weeks I didn't get liv sig and I am flat broke but I feel refreshed to play the game again, wth do I do now?

[wanton hatch]

get free Teddy and cope for phylo banner rerun

[main latch]

free teddy?

you talking the woman on the pc launcher screen?

[pure crystal]

I hv roland sign weap,should i reso it for selena r2?

[wanton hatch]

yeah the pink haired one

[wanton hatch]

[pure crystal]

Which reso should i choose for R2 i use DLT on R1

[main latch]

she is free? is it like a mailbox gift or do I have to do a specific event? @wanton hatch

[wanton hatch]

afterglow

[wanton hatch]

#1451102449661247530 message

can read bottom part

[pure crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-cat-gif-16095083183741136419

[noble zinc]

[barren plank]

[noble zinc]

[gray totem]

[peak halo]

[true pivot]

wow, i cant wait to play the overpowered rosetta! she seems very strong!

[median spade]

where are the hero players

[carmine reef]

Imagine whel being in hero

[median spade]

alt

[carmine reef]

Point and laugh, boys

[median spade]

[buoyant hornet]

@noble zinc how much does 2.133 glacio get this week

[median spade]

f2p

[peak halo]

Kuro will nerf it to the ground

[noble zinc]

Should be 7.7arpujd in hero

Leg don't know

[peak halo]

Next wz i will
I slacc

[verbal forge]

Also took me some time, just go back and enter to refresh

[buoyant hornet]

Sad to see that ss3 teddy is still nowhere near sss echo lmao ripge

It's better than ss0 by a decent bit but I hoped it'd be kinda similar to sss echo

[true pivot]

nah, i doubt so

[buoyant hornet]

Glacio dead team anyway no one cares

[true pivot]

she seems very op and im very hyped

[median spade]

yomm i can almost unbrick in genshin

[buoyant hornet]

Wait is this sarcasm or

[peak halo]

And i still donno
I do phys dark
Or phys ultima(with selena)

[median spade]

flopumbina and ineffa soon

[true pivot]

your entire setup cleared dire wtf u mean unbrick

[median spade]

need more

[peak halo]

I just preper to the worst situation

[true pivot]

i dont prep

lord knows pgr is the best f2p friendly gacha game ever

[true pivot]

47 mil score for existing

[peak halo]

[keen sable]

login on sunday

[keen sable]

wuwa since u dont need to pull all units

[buoyant hornet]

22.5k bc for bianca only for her to end up being raydiance only

[median spade]

sunday strat for the slackers

[peak halo]

Sadly that true

[true pivot]

now she 17 mil score for existing

[buoyant hornet]

17 thousand score exactly

[true pivot]

kaoriraid

[keen sable]

its 2 zones i dislike no reason to try

[gray totem]

27.5k if u count cub

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lmao

[peak halo]

V5 will destroy everything

[buoyant hornet]

SS0 rosetta gonna be weaker than s0 daren

[peak halo]

💀

[median spade]

no way

[true pivot]

breaker is basically type 2 tank and attacker

so ass

[keen sable]

eveerything better then no vergil and no daren team

[buoyant hornet]

true

[verbal forge]

@peak halo my bracket slack or trolling no one pass 17m

If i fix glacio and physical I can do 20/21

[peak halo]

Whelcome to hero

[verbal forge]

Wdym welcome

Im always here

[peak halo]

Then why u suprise

[verbal forge]

Bc its getting worse

I used to get sweatier brackets

[peak halo]

Donno
Last wz 2nd had just 20m on my bracket

I see
But u never with me
Or i just not remember

[verbal forge]

I think i got you 1 time at least dont remember

[peak halo]

Maybe not nowadays

[verbal forge]

19807491

Add me

[peak halo]

But i felt
Theres how i get ew archi and
Fenrear

I will but half way to home

Also why?

[verbal forge]

[verbal forge]

So I stalk

[noble zinc]

[verbal forge]

Bro finally has nitro

[stray siren]

He's going to nitrogenate us all

[verbal forge]

[winter reef]

should i get vera for my pyroath team?

[median spade]

you got pyroath for vera team before vera?

[verbal forge]

From the beginner banner or arrival ?

[winter reef]

the anniversary one, ive been sitting at 50/60 for a while cuz i cant decide who to pull, maybe i just get watanabe and then get liv empyrea with vouchers?

[upbeat phoenix]

Is there any possible way to even have a trueslash rotation with SS hanying with 5* weapon?

[verbal forge]

Theres not an anniversary banner

[winter reef]

or whatever it is lmao

[verbal forge]

Lmao i need to know what it is

[median spade]

selector

[upbeat phoenix]

Ahhh

[median spade]

figured it was that one

you should get vera there

[upbeat phoenix]

Whatever you do I dont think veronica is the right choice from that

[verbal forge]

Get vera Geiravor if you don't have

[noble zinc]

[upbeat phoenix]

i am guessing that is a no

[winter reef]

yea i wasnt really going to get her i just had her selected

[noble zinc]

Dlt must

[upbeat phoenix]

I see

[noble zinc]

Idk what her sig does but this should be enough

[winter reef]

over watanabe?

[upbeat phoenix]

Yes

[peak halo]

sent
stalk me

[verbal forge]

Yeah, you missed your chance on his free selector

[winter reef]

rip

[upbeat phoenix]

Watanabe can be gotten from vouchers... or they'll probably replace him soon anyway

[wind hemlock]

I'd probably wait till SS3 Rosetta

[verbal forge]

Just slap nanami on the team

[winter reef]

i forgot i had her im ngl

[verbal forge]

Phakin whell

[peak halo]

bomb time to 1 tap

[verbal forge]

Oh weah I've seen you before

[peak halo]

bomb i hate dark
100 tap for this

[verbal forge]

[keen sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703727880600944712/1456688497057333419/belka.gif

[verbal forge]

Teach me whalelao

[gray totem]

i cant play phys for the life of me

legit so ass

[peak halo]

watch darkflowgod my teach

ohh wait not sss bonka

[foggy vessel]

I there someone beween these 4 that I should take ? or should I wait for Rosetta ? (all of them are SS0)

[peak halo]

but he have ss run iirc

[verbal forge]

All are free from vouchers, save for rosetta

Since shes "limited" from banner and not a voucher character

[stray siren]

If you manage to obtain 1000 skulls before Rosetta, you can get a copy of any of them (500) and save the other 500 for Rosetta. I would say Lilith for Dark and Void, Since: She is the newest character, and Wata and Wanshi can be replaced at any time

And try to get Lilith to SSS (if she's not already at that rank)

[peak halo]

NOW just slacc

[gray totem]

i cant phys

[peak halo]

also both 56+ wave?

[verbal forge]

Shadow probably 30 sum

[gray totem]

i dont think phys is at least

[peak halo]

so ss cant 56+ in learder i see
atleast dis sht weak

[verbal forge]

Oh thats leader

[verbal forge]

Do you have 3s nana for dark

[wanton hatch]

[gray totem]

no

[verbal forge]

Sad

[gray totem]

life would be simpler if i did

[golden merlin]

3s nana
What the whel

[gray totem]

i should've got her

[wanton hatch]

I gave up on Selena phys

[gray totem]

oh well

[wanton hatch]

used Bianca instead

[golden merlin]

Phys is so painful 😭

[gray totem]

i can play selena and vero fine

[golden merlin]

Vero ss0 > ss3 alisa, right?

[wanton hatch]

[final fog]

You dont have dlt?

[golden merlin]

I dont have hanying
Ts and phys so painful

[gray totem]

on who?

[final fog]

Hanying

[golden merlin]

Han

[gray totem]

i do

[final fog]

Shouldn't be hard then

Its just that physical sucks

[gray totem]

i think i just never really learned how to play her lol, my ass score isnt even that far from a good score so why even bother

I've been using her sigless rot even tho i have sig and dlt

[final fog]

Why?

[gray totem]

cuz i didnt have her sig before

[final fog]

She's not hard to play you just need to be consistent

Takes 5-10 mins to learn

[verbal forge]

I dont have to use ish and i can have fun

Even if the score is low

[final fog]

Only 6 mil bricked

[verbal forge]

Always

Thats my highest score ever dark hero

[gray totem]

just use luna smh

instead of bianca

[verbal forge]

how will that go

[gray totem]

lilith will get shred at least

bianca is mid anyway

[stray siren]

0.3 vs 1.3 damage multiplier

[gray totem]

true

[verbal forge]

Maybe i shall just use Lamia

[stray siren]

Regardless of Bianca being Mid at SS0, she's the best thing there is for Team Dark + Karen or Ish or any 3s tank

[gray totem]

rosetta plz bury her so deeply that the earth would turn over a 1000 times before her body is dug up

[verbal forge]

Maybe i could have done a bit higher but Lilith decides to miss or run away from mobs

[stray siren]

Well, it's mobs, don't mald that thing unless you're a psychopath like me

[verbal forge]

I did mald enough for that score but it was more enjoyable since i only had to switch between Bianca and lilick

[golden merlin]

Use wata nightblade

Or is it astral

Use the dark wata

[verbal forge]

[stray siren]

Use Lamia

[wanton hatch]

my dork is 4m

[verbal forge]

[wanton hatch]

lao please teach

[verbal forge]

you whell probably did 10m

[wanton hatch]

333 luna nana lilith is not whel

[verbal forge]

No

But you have midonca 3s

[wanton hatch]

I did zaza cuz I'm poor

[verbal forge]

[wanton hatch]

[verbal forge]

Fork delete Leviathan from existence

[wanton hatch]

delete leviathans

[verbal forge]

Levisha > Levi > Leviathan

[wanton hatch]

[golden merlin]

[gray totem]

real and true

[normal sierra]

pak dis, I need wata for 8s gundam, sleepy not enuff dmg cuz no missiles on qte

[steady otter]

Loona

[golden nacelle]

[crystal rune]

ermgi

[noble zinc]

[golden merlin]

[noble zinc]

[golden merlin]

[stray siren]

[barren plank]

@deft apex Can you change the FAQ to this image instead

[sonic tide]

K lao

[golden merlin]

This is the most recent update i guess?

[wanton hatch]

dorking it

[golden merlin]

Play wz with only a ranks

Its fun

-# it really isn’t

[wanton hatch]

[noble zinc]

[deft apex]

O u back!

[wanton hatch]

Mycle helper role when

[deft apex]

He was one

[wanton hatch]

yeah need him back

[sonic tide]

Teach me lao

[wanton hatch]

dork it zuchinnilao

[deft apex]

Not sure he wants that, though it's not up to me to go into details

[wanton hatch]

[deft apex]

Also what changed

Its seemingly the same to me

[carmine roost]

The img is the same

The text isn't

But because we're global

Practically 0 difference

[carmine reef]

Why isnt my sheet in there

@deft apex

[noble zinc]

[distant wren]

there are a few things not entirely correct here

on the affixes part

[icy otter]

Which one lao I don't wanna read the whole thing

[distant wren]

for ignition nanami is not "just an enabler" lol

[icy otter]

I mean

She can't really execute below 3s no?

She doesn't scale of the stacks

Only builds them

[distant wren]

still good dmg

[icy otter]

This is where a doubt I had long back comes in

[distant wren]

saying she's just an enabler while having vero be "main dps" is just off

[icy otter]

In ignition mode you could go the whole round without building stacks with nana right

[icy otter]

Well technically the whole vero situation is off

[distant wren]

vero provides mainly from DoT, which if she's below 3s the DoT is not that strong either

[golden nacelle]

vera carry trust

[distant wren]

for glacio i'd say wanshi and alisa deal same-ish amount dmg, but fair ig since wanshi is more important for enabling

[icy otter]

I'm gonna say it again but 2s vero consistently underperforms 2s3 dante but to avoid image nuances they decided to yeet him and use 3s baseline frfr

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1195443797056827403.webp?size=96&animated=true

[spiral merlin]

Reason number 1329 why I hate this ‘enabler’ ‘executioner’ labelling

[distant wren]

darkflow...

dude

wata sub dps...

really?????

[icy otter]

Yes bro

3s

[carmine roost]

[distant wren]

lol

[icy otter]

Insayne field time

[distant wren]

lmao

[icy otter]

Takes out

1 bar of health

[distant wren]

hope you're trolling here brother

[carmine roost]

Yeah

This game is over

[icy otter]

Well technically

[icy otter]

I consider anybody with more than 1s of fieldtime doing some dmg

Might as well call them sub

[distant wren]

so vera deals no dmg

got it

[icy otter]

Wait where

[spiral merlin]

My ishmael does tons of dmg in light

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/953114926774374470.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=WDYM

[distant wren]

he said vera enabler wata sub dps

that's misleading

[icy otter]

Okay ish is exception case

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

So what ur saying is

We either delete enabler executioner or set clear boundaries

[carmine roost]

The man who made the graph, don't actually play the game

[icy otter]

Does the image say enabler doesn't do decent dmg

[spiral merlin]

I personally just think giving them rigid labels when affixes are unique is weirdge

[distant wren]

the "strong sub dps" part here just makes it even more misleading for newbies

[spiral merlin]

Some may happen to enable and some may happen to just do all the dmg but putting them in boxes like this I would argue harms understanding of how they work

[icy otter]

Lmfkaoa

Strong

Ok

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072740014640865280.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PeepoLeave

[golden nacelle]

[ashen parcel]

What did you guys get on phys warzone?

with ultima slash

[carmine roost]

There's phys wz?

[icy otter]

I mean I can kinda see why they want distinction between who builds stacks and who actually utilizes them

[carmine roost]

Think

[spiral merlin]

Why are you playing phys with ts

[icy otter]

But I suppose that is rigid

[spiral merlin]

Liv builds stacks and uses them

Nanami builds stacks and uses them

[icy otter]

Both then

[spiral merlin]

Veronica builds stacks and uses them

Bianca builds stacks and uses them

[carmine roost]

[icy otter]

Nana uses what stacks

[spiral merlin]

Vera builds stacks and uses them (for the first ult)

[icy otter]

Is there ult scaling for burn below 3s

[carmine roost]

No

But why below 3s

[icy otter]

The way dante uses 20 stx

[carmine roost]

Only 3s above matters

[distant wren]

the enabler/sub dps/executioner thing only applied to all affixes when the teams were just plasma/glacio/trueslash

[carmine roost]

[icy otter]

Well there's another nuance there

If you're worried about new players misunderstanding them use new player baseline

[distant wren]

after that things got more complicated

[spiral merlin]

I don’t think it applies to glacio either

[ashen parcel]

Im being picky but i wana build my teddy fully before rolling out to glaciation which means sss+ Teddy before i use her on ice dumb but im spoiled like that anyway

eveen if normal WZ what did u guys get on phys im curious

[distant wren]

yea true wanshi deals around same ish dmg as alisa

[ashen parcel]

which btw double phys is devious work from kuro

[spiral merlin]

Ye

[stray siren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1427900785928437770/GIF-251015_000708.gif

[spiral merlin]

And Alisa kinda enables

[distant wren]

yea that too

[distant wren]

[spiral merlin]

On phys i onetapped 13.7m

[carmine roost]

"Enabler" term is kinda off nowadays now that the rest of affix finally got proper affix team and isn't limited to build affix stack and have nothing left afterwards

[ashen parcel]

It would be nice if new alpha frame is phys tank

[spiral merlin]

3.133

[ashen parcel]

whats ur team?

[icy otter]

That image has so many innate issues my point is that nitpicking them one by one would be useless so let it be

[spiral merlin]

See above

[carmine roost]

Unlike plasma and Glacio, most of affix nowadays is still able to do something without actually required to "build" stack from scratch anymore

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1195443797056827403.webp?size=96&animated=true

[stray siren]

https://youtu.be/Xn4yAbA9cZw?si=cuuwhff5nQodSQvX

[distant wren]

actually even for TS, pre-worgil hanying had around same total dmg as balter while having better distribution

[distant wren]

im not letting that be with darkflow like that

[spiral merlin]

I think the total dmg is way higher also

[ashen parcel]

hanying needs a new skin give her a goth skin or something im tired of these ancient chinese secret fortune cookie clothing

[distant wren]

yea it certainly could've

[ashen parcel]

give hanying an oni skin

[distant wren]

oh actually if hanying is sss it 100% was higher

[spiral merlin]

Ye

I remember being very disappointed when I tried to play it

Solo hanying was the way

[distant wren]

basically better to just go main-sub-support for affixes like normal teams

then make notes next to em imo

[spiral merlin]

Agree

Less confusion so everyone wins

[distant wren]

does myc want to mess with me tho, this is the 2nd time he did vera dirty in this graph when it comes to darkflow

first time he said she was bad enabler

[carmine roost]

Bruh

[distant wren]

he fixed that but yea

it's funny lmfao

[spiral merlin]

Having subdps a separate column from enabler and for some reason combined with support never made sense to me

From that if I didn’t know the game I would absolutely conclude Vera did nothing

Since plasma came before and lilith does nothing

[crystal rune]

ermgi

[barren plank]

That's fair

I can change

[barren plank]

This is also fair but at the same time I dont know how to really this in a chart without it looking like a mess

[round lake]

Affix is a mess

[distant wren]

#📨・meta-help message my suggestion

[round lake]

Must be real hard to make guide for that

Ngl feel like "sub DPS" isn't doing justice sometime

[normal sierra]

ppc projection gets yeeted with horse patch, right?

[round lake]

Ye

[barren plank]

@distant wren @spiral merlin Fixed, is this fine?

[spiral merlin]

Ye that's why I never really brought it up all that much

Appreciated the work anyways

[barren plank]

Nw

Oh wait

Yall technically editors now

[normal sierra]

now you all got your names on it

[round lake]

Would it be fine to add "debuffer" to tank

[barren plank]

Um

I guess

Yea

[round lake]

Like Nanami Sub DPS/Debuffer
Instead of Support

[barren plank]

Sure I can add

[normal sierra]

there be more terms on it now than in a dictionary

[round lake]

It's really hard to emphasize just how important Tank is for any team

[barren plank]

Although can 2nd enabler/subdps/debuffer/support all fit in one tiny row

[spiral merlin]

See what I mean about labels

[round lake]

May be we'll just go with Amp/Attacker/Tank

[normal sierra]

label it as "everything" at that point lul

[round lake]

Kusogames literally set newbies up for failure the moment they open up the Standard banner

[barren plank]

@deft apex Sorry real final version

I gtg now sry

[round lake]

Looking good bro

[distant wren]

Uhh

Idk

[spiral merlin]

I guess add somewhere that main enabler can be sub dps too

[distant wren]

I appreciate it but...

[round lake]

Still a bit confusing with Burn ig

[spiral merlin]

For things what wouldn't fit in the labels title column you could prob put an asterisk there and put more detail at the bottom like the other keys

[distant wren]

See the thing is the units put in "main enabler", they don't stand out to people as "being able to dps"

Is my problem

[round lake]

Burn is too complicated from their team variation alone

[distant wren]

In this case it's nanami wanshi vera

[crystal rune]

PepeOh

[normal sierra]

wanshi new burn char confirmed

[spiral merlin]

Yea cause he's hot af

[noble zinc]

[normal sierra]

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[round lake]

Let's put a "!" on Midianca too

[spiral merlin]

Poor Bianca

[normal sierra]

poor indeed, she only has a bath towel to wear on the battlefield

[noble zinc]

[round lake]

She's literally the CW of this generation

[noble zinc]

[distant wren]

@barren plank

[round lake]

Will bait newbies into killing their accounts

And soon, something even worse
(If u know, u know)

[spiral merlin]

I know but just for the others what is it

[normal sierra]

I know too, but you know, just so others know what the know is

[round lake]

Another Tsubricki situation

[normal sierra]

you mean she finally gets some clothing?

[spiral merlin]

[round lake]

Uhh ye

It suits her

[spiral merlin]

Blue rose 2

[distant wren]

Oh yea this makes even TS look off too
Hanying enabler vero sub dps

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-pgr-gif-3214888763027842680

[noble zinc]

[normal sierra]

nuke doesn't seem to like me roasting midanca

[golden merlin]

Gets a coating before becoming useless

[golden merlin]

Eh so how is wata a sub dps for df

[normal sierra]

whels be using her, they can keep her to themselves

[spiral merlin]

We have to whel to play with Solon's wife

And play we do

[round lake]

Right when she's about to become useless, great timing

See why I called this another Tsubricki situation

[golden merlin]

Yea i understood that

[spiral merlin]

Problem is even s+ cw was bricked

[distant wren]

See that's the problem rn, cause it makes it look like the enablers deal no dmg while some supports deal more dmg than they actually do

[spiral merlin]

s+ Walter cracked

[golden merlin]

How would you organize the columns?

[round lake]

SSS Bonka kinda tough goal for newbies

[distant wren]

Just make it main dps sub dps support like the normal teams are

[carmine roost]

What the whel

[distant wren]

Then make notes

[carmine roost]

3s bonca

[distant wren]

Next to em

[carmine roost]

[distant wren]

Way less confusing

[golden merlin]

I should whel and 3s bonka as well as grab coating

[round lake]

If they pull Midianca from Standard, it's already over
And they will because Kusogame labeled her as "Dark Carry"

[golden merlin]

[spiral merlin]

Qu recommended

[golden merlin]

Crazy

[round lake]

Can we spam suggestion to remove ingame recommended

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[normal sierra]

ok but why is your selection at stigmata?

[distant wren]

But w/e i guess, you guys do what u want

[orchid owl]

But worse

CW was at least meta

[golden merlin]

Cam we spam suggestion to remove suggested mem builds

[orchid owl]

Bianca kind of just exists

[round lake]

Not my pic but I do realize this is what newbies see when they first open Standard banner

[golden merlin]

Wdym
sss bonka is good

[orchid owl]

Exceptions don't make it better

[round lake]

They'll instantly see "Ohhh, carry"

OMG, she has a gacha skin too?

[crystal rune]

gawd

[round lake]

And that's it
The end, bricked

[golden merlin]

Kuso trying to get ppl to whel to fix account

Trust

[distant wren]

They don't even test their own game before rolling things out what u expect

[round lake]

[normal sierra]

is ok. any newbie not looking for info before pulling on a gacha game won't last long anyway

[spiral merlin]

No better pair than kuro and bait

[golden merlin]

Ahem

[peak halo]

After u realize she need everything just to do dmg

[orchid owl]

"Time to pull the skin, from what I can tell it gives me the character and her weapon too!"

[normal sierra]

I saw you asking for info when you started

[golden merlin]

-# literally what i did for 2 coatings

[round lake]

I've seen plenty of newbies pulling skin, thinking it's a character

[orchid owl]

Ik

[golden merlin]

I joined the discord like a week or 2 after i started and already bricked

[orchid owl]

Reddit, ch 1, discord
It was everywhere

[golden merlin]

Pulled lamia in blue

[normal sierra]

damn, why you still here? this is not how it supposed to be!

a rare fish lover

[golden merlin]

💳 fixes all trust
-# ok but i actually was f2p for a month or so trying ti fix account. I gave up.

[crystal rune]

i also pulled lamia

[peak halo]

I pulled ca when i start

[normal sierra]

you don't have an account, pilots have no say here

[crystal rune]

ermgi

[orchid owl]

I semi-bricked my acc with pulling pulao and roland but at that time it would be considered minor because we didn't have affix

[peak halo]

Skiping everything when i start like a good cw simp

[stray siren]

Me, when I was playing TW for the first time and Kuro was giving away that exclusive sfx Liv Lux skin, and I thought the weapon skin was a 6* weapon

10/10 bait

[steady otter]

I choose tenebrion from free selector right before daren patch

[round lake]

Kuso bait

[steady otter]

Pulling pulao didnt make ur acc brick

Wym

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1299309854724460556/1450474664320307240/ezgif.com-resize_3.gif

[stray siren]

https://youtu.be/cv69HALZAVk?si=0XnLIoqELAy_3i7X

[peak halo]

[golden merlin]

My lamia pick was actually terrible
Like beginning of june so bonka was a couple patches away

[steady otter]

Cant blame cute girl

[golden merlin]

-# and then I suffered without ishmael or nanami for 6 months

[spiral merlin]

Not having ish is immediate brick