📨・meta-help

[stray siren]

It feels awful

[noble zinc]

Why

[stray siren]

PayPal restrictions

[noble zinc]

Can use app store

[stray siren]

Nope

[noble zinc]

Why

[stray siren]

I don't know, it used to be possible, but after the second anniversary, no foreigner could buy RC again

The only option for foreigners is MyCard

[noble zinc]

[stray siren]

But I get an error when I make the transaction

[noble zinc]

Wut abt 3par

[stray siren]

What is 3par

[noble zinc]

3rd

[stray siren]

Ahhh

Nope, I think only MyCard works so far

[noble zinc]

[hoary dagger]

[noble zinc]

Ching chong frnd need to find

[stray siren]

I don't like asking for favors tbh

[normal sierra]

me chng chng fwiend, just send the money and ima buy for you

totally not a scam, trust

[noble zinc]

[verbal forge]

Codashop or lootbargg don't work?

[stray siren]

Nope

[distant wren]

Can confirm this isn't a scam

[verbal forge]

Sad

[stray siren]

If fire god says so, then I trust

[golden merlin]

Where do i ask there

[noble zinc]

Ppc hall something name

[golden merlin]

I asked there and got no answer

[noble zinc]

Now they sleep a bit later can get ans

[golden merlin]

Oh ok

[noble zinc]

Me sleep during morning so awake

[normal sierra]

nocturnal nuke

[distant wren]

[golden merlin]

I am half nocturnal now

Going to bed every day 3 am

Very healthy

[plain oyster]

[crystal rune]

[pallid cypress]

what is the build for teddy?

[plain oyster]

https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1447937004385075392

[carmine roost]

Issue where what?

There was a score bug?

[hazy sandal]

Yes

When exceeding dankflow at 58 wave (I donmt recall correctly) the score was overflowed which deduced one ‘0’ at the total score

[carmine roost]

Lmao

[hazy sandal]

Lmao

Bullsh!t game.

Dankflow

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1310194043635896360.png?quality=lossless&name=kokowheeze&size=48

[peak halo]

Rip
So legend wave56+ bugged

[carmine roost]

Wtf

-2 billion

[stray siren]

[carmine reef]

LOL

@spiral merlin we found the answer to your question of how it would go in legend

[spiral merlin]

This the second time I’ve seen this happen

[carmine reef]

smol indie dev

[spiral merlin]

I see 25m score tho

On huaxu leaderboard

Is this below w55

[carmine reef]

probably, if w57 was 28.7m

[spiral merlin]

This says 2.87m lol

[carmine reef]

yes

that's the bug

[spiral merlin]

Oh so the score is real but displayed incorrectly

[carmine reef]

according to setsu it dropped a 0

[spiral merlin]

Nvm that’s way less interesting than I thought

[carmine reef]

so that means the score should be 28.7m

if setsu is correct

[crystal rune]

No not really

[peak halo]

So when increase fluc?
Or fixing this sht?
Will when gen 5 comes 3s can go more than w56

[spiral merlin]

Why doesn’t hero have this bug

[carmine reef]

well actually then again

[crystal rune]

[carmine reef]

2870000 is kind of a suspicious figure

[spiral merlin]

Yeah

[carmine roost]

The score gain on that ss is -2 billion

[spiral merlin]

Too round

[carmine roost]

2850000 score is from w57 alone

[true pivot]

so the score kinda hyperinflated on that wave with legend scaling somehow?

[carmine roost]

57 x 50k

• 20k hp

[spiral merlin]

All waves above w55 are hyperinflated scaling

Is it any wonder last week highest entropic score was in hero

[carmine reef]

right

[spiral merlin]

Of all servers

[carmine reef]

i guess we might be able to calculate from which point the overflow occurred

[true pivot]

i guess so, and with legend scaling + flucs it gets really weird innit

[spiral merlin]

w55 legend > w55 hero > normal legend > normal hero for scaling

Or so it seems

[crystal rune]

Time to drop to hero for better scores

[spiral merlin]

Literally

I hate this change

[true pivot]

s+ hero 40m dark wz

[peak halo]

[carmine reef]

integer overflow point is 2147483648, screenshot shows 2119920238

i guess 27.5m is the overflow point

or rather, the scoreline at which the overflow occurs

[spiral merlin]

I was wondering where that number came from

So it’s dmg number that overflowed

That makes a lot more sense

[carmine reef]

pgr using signed integers for score

[spiral merlin]

I guess they never planned for powercreep to get this out of hand

And forgot about it completely

[crystal rune]

[peak halo]

And will not fix that sht

[spiral merlin]

Oh I’m stupid I see the 2.87m came solely from wave and hp

[carmine reef]

yeah

the dmg score value is allowed to go into negative but the score calculation doesn't so the score gain from dmg is just 0

[peak halo]

[spiral merlin]

And I’m only just now realising the blue dmg score is truncated from the white

I really don’t pay attention to things

[carmine reef]

normally the white is the pure damage dealt and the blue is the score gain from it

in this case the game is receiving information that the total damage dealt by the player is negative

ergo 0 score

it would be very funny if we could have actual negative score though

[spiral merlin]

They considered that score could be negative but didnt think about overflow

What other reason could make score negative

I guess it’s fine for safety

[carmine reef]

i wonder if there was ever a bug with healing mobs that could have genuinely been considered negative damage

like the player healing mobs

[hazy sandal]

Uwooogh segs healing

[spiral merlin]

Wouldn’t put it past this spaghetti code

Game held together by glue and duct tape

Hold on

[crystal rune]

Im holding on

[spiral merlin]

Doesn’t this mean df should be getting 30m score then

[crystal rune]

[spiral merlin]

If I’m getting all that right at least

[peak halo]

Also the bug why not appears in cn beta?
Or it is

[hazy sandal]

Normal

[spiral merlin]

Well haven’t they fixed it now

In glb even

Since that’s what sparked this whole conversation

[hazy sandal]

Yes segs fixed

[spiral merlin]

So what were seeing from dark wz in beta is just inflated af score from this dumb ass w55 scaling

Given df benefits from it as well this much

[crystal rune]

Df was pretty close to bugged waves on sea that first week

[peak halo]

Ahha

[crystal rune]

But that was without the increased scaling

[spiral merlin]

Yea pre w55 patch it was 1hp repairers

So 1 dmg score to increase and per wave what is it like 50k?

[crystal rune]

50k

[spiral merlin]

50k every couple or so seconds persisting through timestop wasn’t so bad either

The faster a team got through w55 the better

But naturally the dmg you can deal now outclasses that a lot

[peak halo]

So what will be the true solution for this?

[hazy sandal]

Double integer

Unsigned

[crystal rune]

Eos

[peak halo]

Right

[graceful summit]

[spiral merlin]

I just think that hero shouldn’t be able to outscore legend so much for legend teams that can’t break w55

[buoyant hornet]

I heard of a past bug with sophia where her qte heal orb thingies would get stolen by enemies instead of the player but I can't confirm if that was real or not

[carmine reef]

sophia too iconic

[crystal rune]

[median shell]

[true pivot]

repairer 50m hp soon

[solemn berry]

No pls

[stray siren]

Doritos jumping off the map

[solemn berry]

Cheese

[stray siren]

Cam

[solemn berry]

Yes ml

[stray siren]

[solemn berry]

[buoyant hornet]

omg this kamui artwork

peak

The way I can recognize the rest of the image LMFAO

[golden merlin]

Eh

Oh the pfp

[solemn berry]

[feral flume]

Is rosetta like nanami and wata too where u only have to tap qte skill to apply the elem res? Or u need to do a skill first

[buoyant hornet]

So far it's the former yes

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe it just looks hilariously similar to something else

[stray siren]

Horny-help

[buoyant hornet]

btw have you seen how my smurf annihilated outlier ppc with ss0 teddy lol

[stray siren]

Nope

Send

[buoyant hornet]

I'll show scores but I don't think I recorded runs except for like 2

[stray siren]

Scores are ok

[buoyant hornet]

@stray siren most of these are with either lilith or teddy (mostly teddy since she's way stronger at ss0)

Time to finish the rest

[stray siren]

New newbie guide for free skulls

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly now that teddy is out we should mention this skull farming method for newbies, just get teddy + lilith + wanshi (wanshi doesn't even need rankups or sig for this), get ss0 teddy and 95% of outlier skulls are yours

No other character is this permanently accessible or free to obtain with equipment and rankups while also being this strong at ss0

[solemn berry]

Is it bad

I mean data

J

Help

My wifi

Hello I'm back

[graceful summit]

[knotty pier]

how do i select her? i have a tkl keyboard

[true pivot]

whatever you keybinded her to

slight question, what do you think the word "meta" means in a game

[knotty pier]

oh, oops, wrong channel

[true pivot]

i assume thats a q button

[knotty pier]

ya, it worked, thanks btw

[rough mica]

[stray siren]

Yeah, Most f2p team in game right now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/964730348451807302/1458704142884147221/GIF-260108_000835.gif

[simple dew]

slena and lna

ancient recording

[true pivot]

dalao do you has a link to the wz images you have

[stray siren]

Do u mean the GIFs?

[true pivot]

the wz off element thingy

[stray siren]

Oh the one I uploaded to snazz server?

No?

[true pivot]

this yes

is there an accessible link

[stray siren]

Nope

[radiant panther]

ok time to mals shi

[stray siren]

Just image

[true pivot]

aight ill just link ur twtter

[stray siren]

[stray siren]

Bully

Wz on thursday

[crystal rune]

Thank god he didn’t run into Ken

[wet glade]

What's the Dante sss igni wz rot?

[stray siren]

Did Ken just start?

[stray siren]

Ignition god

Help

[crystal rune]

[radiant panther]

ok new light goal 8m

DF score next gioal 7m

2 taps for now

[sour silo]

Should i cope

[sour silo]

Depends on investment of the other 2 teammates

I only know wata, homeless and vero

[wet glade]

Aside from vero everyone has SS and harmo

[sour silo]

Vero sss?

[wet glade]

Nah

Just s

[sour silo]

Oh

[wet glade]

I haven't spent on her

[sour silo]

Ye cant help ya

[wet glade]

Its required ss?

[sour silo]

You can pray on dante, nanami and vera

[simple dew]

ss for human eights

[crystal rune]

Ss for minimal rights

[carmine roost]

human eights

[crystal rune]

[wet glade]

I have 1k skulls

I guess I'll use

[carmine roost]

Also why ignition

Ignition wher

[wet glade]

Wz

[golden merlin]

fire > ignition

[carmine roost]

clue

Kuro strikes again

[wet glade]

Ss3 Lucia or SSS Dante?

[carmine roost]

SSS Dante if you know how to

[simple dew]

sss lucia or ss3 dante

[true pivot]

WorryPloom

[carmine roost]

SSS vera

[verbal forge]

[simple dew]

sss wata

[true pivot]

kil wata

[sonic tide]

What rights

[crystal rune]

True

[half iris]

So i took a break from the game after dark bianca, can i get new liv later somehow from the 70% banners or a selector? or am i screwed?

I know teddy is free and veronica isn't reeaaallly thaaaaat important i guess

[mighty tusk]

if you dont have liv, you're effectively screwed unless the phylo tree banner reruns

and you can't even predict when the banner will rerun

[half iris]

wait is she in the standard banner? i think I have a 100% selector on there

[mighty tusk]

she's not

[half iris]

will she be in the future or is she restricted to phylo?

[mighty tusk]

no

phylo exlusive

[half iris]

alright

[mighty tusk]

it's the reason why people hated the banner

[half iris]

yeah..

well hopefully they rerun it in a couple of monthes. Has it had any reruns yet?

[mighty tusk]

none

the first phylo banner was just last patch

we also dont know if rerun phylo banner will retain the 100% rate up for old phylo unit

[half iris]

I see..okay that's good at least i didn't miss a rerun. thanks for the info

[buoyant hornet]

I ended up getting 587k ballard and like 600k fushen

[peak halo]

Wtf when shark is in wz💀

[candid idol]

Yo chat, mind if I ask who's good to be the 2nd member for this preset

[whole pond]

What’s the meta build for teddy and her ice team

[distant wren]

nanami startrail

[candid idol]

ALR tnx!!!

[orchid owl]

4 joanne 4 chen jiyuan

For teddy
The resos are 6 atk 6 ult

[mighty tusk]

hmm...guess a slight change in liv's starter rot can contribute

[orchid owl]

As for the others
Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer
4 Liston 4 Chen Jiyuan
Top atk, bottom ult

Off-ele SSS gen 2 amp or gen3 amp or SSS ayla for wz minmaxing
4 da vinci 4 guin
Top any, bottom class

Recommended to pick a gen 3 non-phys amp with at least 1 resonance

[whole pond]

wdym by Gen 3

Veronica?

[dawn cloak]

Non phys, so preferably not her (tho she works)
Pick Lilith or Vera, whichever has higher reso

[whole pond]

what else amp is there

geiravor?

Ok

[orchid owl]

New amplifiers

That have QTE reset

Lilith, Geiravor, Veronica (exception), Teddy (main dps so excluded)

[round lake]

Who revived this guy

[whole pond]

They srsly better than ayla?

[orchid owl]

Depends on your invest but generally yes

[deft apex]

Unkiwid?

[whole pond]

They all SS

[round lake]

Oh thats quite ez

Also because Qu dead ig

[deft apex]

Welcome back khaledlao

[orchid owl]

So the others then

[crystal rune]

[peak halo]

khaled back

[dawn cloak]

So youre fraudkiwi smh

So many fraud

[round lake]

Liffu killed him for 1 month

[dawn cloak]

But youre a fraudkiwi smh

[true pivot]

kiwitree

[peak halo]

Wtf that theres

[round lake]

Now u bricked

[visual topaz]

She isn't in base banner

Neither

[dawn cloak]

Ssshhhh

Let him cope

[visual topaz]

He coped enough pre release anyway

[true pivot]

blue phylo banner soon with phylotree nirvatia trust me

yes

[buoyant hornet]

Is it true that veronica can't proc eins at all or was that a lie

I'll never remember to actually test it lmfao

[true pivot]

nooo free mone gone

[buoyant hornet]

You're back?

[dawn cloak]

A lie

[orchid owl]

That would be wild

Beyond a mid or fraud unit

[buoyant hornet]

Is it because burn affix mode does elemental dmg or can phys qtes proc eins normally?

I was wondering how long it'd take you to return after qu got booted lmfao

[orchid owl]

Eins is based on dmg not element I believe

[buoyant hornet]

Ye heard someone say her and alisa can't proc eins which I didn't get lol

[orchid owl]

So phys unit can trigger eins, and ele unit can trigger cath

[buoyant hornet]

I keep forgetting to test myself tho

[orchid owl]

Same with philip and guin

[dawn cloak]

@buoyant hornet ☝️

[buoyant hornet]

oh wow

Did you hear of the funny rollercoaster of a beta that's on rn

[orchid owl]

Nahh brooo

What is this bs

Fraud

[round lake]

Phys isn't real

[buoyant hornet]

Phys chronically shafted

[dawn cloak]

This one is more fraud

[orchid owl]

"QTE and 3-ping skills reduce the target's all Elemental Resistance by 15%"

How are they NOT able to proc it

Unless affix

Like what is this

[round lake]

Hey now, can we even trust Kusogames description unless tested

[dawn cloak]

"Phys is not elemental" moment

[buoyant hornet]

Cooked asf

[round lake]

[orchid owl]

Yes but QTE and 3-ping isn't inherently anything either

The description never required a damage type

[buoyant hornet]

All this and phys still has the worst tank and amplifier lmfao

[buoyant hornet]

You'd think they'd get broken units to compensate for the many downfalls of physical

A lot of stuff might change this beta so it's probably not worth considering now yet

[thorny bolt]

can i build ayla for the ice team i need another amplifier especially if im gonna do norman

[orchid owl]

Don't

Use teddy and use another elemental amp

Better than wasting anything on Ayla if you haven't already

[buoyant hornet]

Just use whatever spare amp you have that can carry 4dv 4guin and maybe amp wep resos

[dawn cloak]

Eins was requiring it mind you
Ish eins off ele were diabolical
But now it works

Ofc phys stay shafted

None

[orchid owl]

Well it was using the same element to shred the elemental res but they changed it to global so it should work

[thorny bolt]

alright 🥲 and also does anyone have the rotation for the ice team?

[buoyant hornet]

no but she'll want amp resos whenever we get a new attacker (and for her support stuff like raydiance and glacio)

But no she doesn't do dlt generally

[orchid owl]

Apparently

[buoyant hornet]

yes

all the time now

[dawn cloak]

Cookie cutter rot ig, for braindead copypaste
Dunno for Wanashi SS0/SS3

[orchid owl]

Ayla or other amp is just deadge

[buoyant hornet]

Because of teddy sig's passive

[thorny bolt]

alright thanks

ill keep that in mind

gotta find ss0 teddy and wanshi rot though since thats my investments on them

[orchid owl]

What's wanshi triple rot? 12 > 6 > 30?

[buoyant hornet]

Should work the same for ss0/ss3 but due to wanshi being weaker I imagine adding a little bit more teddy field time might be decent

[dawn cloak]

Cooldown timer i mean
15sec vs 12sec

[buoyant hornet]

triple rot all the time except for his opener rot (you'll run into orb issues if you don't use dlt OR learn the timing of his red releases to dodge his own grenade for a free orb

[buoyant hornet]

Teddy's basic short>long already reaches 15s regardless

[dawn cloak]

Well doesnt matter for Teddy ig yeah
She goes over amp buff

[orchid owl]

Dodge or parry?

[buoyant hornet]

It heavily overlaps with sss wanshi's swap time and is perfectly timely for non-sss

[buoyant hornet]

Dodge you still wanna avoid parries if possible

Dodging his own grenade by releasing red within the right window gives a free orb (or doding any attack really, can dodge lightning strikes too for example)

[dawn cloak]

Simply said, dont hold red too long and you'll get it

1 free orb every time

[buoyant hornet]

not really tbh it also depends on which orb combination you're forced to use

[solemn berry]

I like wanshi

[buoyant hornet]

If you do yellow>blue you wanna release red quicker than usual

[solemn berry]

Is it always 18/30/12

[buoyant hornet]

are you mambo

[solemn berry]

Who

[buoyant hornet]

Not really it changes each swap

[solemn berry]

The horse?

What does it depend on

[dawn cloak]

|| who else ||

[buoyant hornet]

always gotta confirm

[solemn berry]

I'm not mambo

[dawn cloak]

I'm Not Mambon

[solemn berry]

Huh

[buoyant hornet]

It just changes because of the way stacks transfer between rots, and also depending on whether you do 6 bullets or 12 bullets before swapout

[crystal rune]

cambo

[solemn berry]

If 18/30/12 then you can keep chaining right

[buoyant hornet]

You can end up with 12/24/6 or 12/24/12 for example

[solemn berry]

Is that after 18/30/6

[buoyant hornet]

yeah

[solemn berry]

I'm trying to think of when that would be better

I guess if 12 doesn't hit it right

[buoyant hornet]

btw ss0 teddy nukes the entirety of outlier ppc

[dawn cloak]

And for max dmg output
But then again, you dont always need max dmg if overkilling

[buoyant hornet]

It's actually insane lmfao

[solemn berry]

Like wasting ult on damaged enemy

[dawn cloak]

S0 Teddy should too
Ig longer cuz need until ult

[buoyant hornet]

If possible I like to shorten one of wanshi's swaps to 6 bullets before swapout, allows teddy to drop a bit more damage on her last swap

But only if the breakpoints allow it

[buoyant hornet]

S0 teddy does sacrifice a lot of damage she'll probably struggle against tankier ones like ballard

[solemn berry]

Oh yeah that too

[buoyant hornet]

My ballard was barely 587k

Because she was 4 bars off after 2 long rots and I had to generate orbs manually lmfao

I actually found out she has insanely quick orb generation btw

[solemn berry]

Yeah

Like the other teddy

[true pivot]

thats why vero doesnt sync well with a dan nani team

[buoyant hornet]

I meant orb generation from basic attack rather than the orbs she gets in ult zone

[solemn berry]

Yeah

Teddy also gets alot of orbs

[buoyant hornet]

did decryptor also gen orbs quickly from basics? intriguing

[solemn berry]

From what I remember yes

Or idk it's probably inflated

[buoyant hornet]

Lol I was just doing whatever after the 2nd ult and suddely I saw 4 freaking orbs pop up

I was so confused

[solemn berry]

Cause I only used her in gb

[buoyant hornet]

Just spawned orbs from the void

[dawn cloak]

U mean the hold BA?
Yeah like Bianca, ultimate orb regenerator

[buoyant hornet]

prolly yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's insane lol I was jumpscared by a bunch of orbs appearing out of nowhere

I thought the game was bugged for a second

First unit I remember that has accelerated orb gen was hanying

Idk if anyone before her had that

[golden nacelle]

[buoyant hornet]

dalao cookery omg

[crystal rune]

where world record

[golden nacelle]

just wait

[true pivot]

where 30m lightning

[crystal rune]

[solemn berry]

Where is my life

[crystal rune]

taishi still numba wan

[buoyant hornet]

Every time I think about how my funny sss liv luck also means I'll probably be forced to solo her forever....

Truly a monkey paw moment

I don't think even a new amp or lightning breaker can force her to swap unless they're sss too 😭

[solemn berry]

Thank goodness I skipped her

More CW for me

[dawn cloak]

Rip Nanami
4dv qte bot

[simple dew]

luna in finality

[dawn cloak]

She cant even run 6dv

[buoyant hornet]

The pain

[buoyant hornet]

I thought of that but those orbs aren't exactly traditional orbs so I kinda didn't count them

They seem to just manually appear whenever she basics as a way to mimic laurel's classic basic+orb spam lol

[solemn berry]

Omg

Sss nana

[buoyant hornet]

I wonder if kamui will be amp

[simple dew]

kamui lightning amp

[solemn berry]

I thought fire breaker

[buoyant hornet]

That'd be even more tragic

[solemn berry]

Pls

Not amp

Keep my goat a tank

[simple dew]

lightning breaker

[buoyant hornet]

It'll mean my liv luccsacc account will never run him on field once I use the shards lmfao

[solemn berry]

Or breaker

[buoyant hornet]

mayhaps

[solemn berry]

Random wildcard guess here

[simple dew]

fire breaker sounds basic

phys breaker

[solemn berry]

Yes

That

Or lightning amp

Actually fk it

[buoyant hornet]

No pls he'll be shafted like the other phys units

[solemn berry]

No no nvm

[simple dew]

vero level breaker

[solemn berry]

Shukra oldest "meta" unit rn right?

[simple dew]

multis straight out from gen 1

[buoyant hornet]

technically yeah

[solemn berry]

Ok

Phys breaker

[simple dew]

feral technically

[solemn berry]

Oh right

[buoyant hornet]

oh right

[solemn berry]

Forgot

[buoyant hornet]

I forgor 💀

[solemn berry]

Yeah fire breaker or phys

[simple dew]

i forgor

[solemn berry]

Or he might be lightning amp

Can't be ice cause they just had teddy

Unless they want an empy nana repeat

[buoyant hornet]

Well yes but the ice attacker spot is still techinically hers

[buoyant hornet]

Capri was before nana

[simple dew]

fire had the longest time without a unit tho phys is the worst team by a big gap

[buoyant hornet]

That'd be cw feral moment

[solemn berry]

I mean

[buoyant hornet]

Hanying leap TRUST

[solemn berry]

Rosetta released in between

So

[simple dew]

pyro leap

[simple dew]

nirvatia

[buoyant hornet]

Probably not but it's at least SOMETHING for this miserable ass team

[stray siren]

It's always been like this. I remember 2 years ago when I made a summary of every buff and debuff for every tank, healer, and amplifier, based on the character descriptions, and Aether said to me: "Wow, nice, now compare that to their actual game data on the field by playing"

Being a warriorpaper is a waste of time in this game

[buoyant hornet]

gen 3 team in the year 2026 still getting garbage scores

[solemn berry]

Omg aether

[simple dew]

let phys stay dead

ruined by being phys

[solemn berry]

Kamui says

I will make phys great again

[simple dew]

you need magical powers here to do any good

[solemn berry]

I mean

Not again

I will make phys great

[buoyant hornet]

2.122 physical barely exceeds 6m on boss zone, meanwhile wanshi shukra ice was getting 6m on duo zone lmfao

Shows how much they fked up with veronica

[buoyant hornet]

tbf phys did use to have moments where it took over (primarily because other teams just lacked usable units at the time lmfao)

Balter meta was funny she was everywhere

[solemn berry]

Was just in time for it

[simple dew]

balter and alisa the only good phys units

[buoyant hornet]

Alisa was game changing

Made physical insane at the time

[solemn berry]

I'm in vc with my guildmate

[buoyant hornet]

mald party

[solemn berry]

I mean no he's not my guildmate anymore

I'm helping him

[simple dew]

are you making out

[solemn berry]

in umamusume

[buoyant hornet]

horse dalao

[solemn berry]

Atp I'll be umamusume dalao before my internet comes back to redownload pgr

[buoyant hornet]

So many people returning to pgr

Unexpected plot twist

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128792873081516045/1457419294177624197/aura_farming.gif

[buoyant hornet]

Khaled mambo

Who's next

[simple dew]

teddy supremacy

[solemn berry]

Who tf is mambo

[buoyant hornet]

the ayla physics are taking me out 😭 😭

that's very random why

[graceful summit]

In 2 patch yes

[simple dew]

yes

i think

[solemn berry]

I will donate some of mine

I have 60k

[simple dew]

yea idk about base banner either

[peak halo]

Donate me please🙏

[simple dew]

ss3 vero

[peak halo]

Sss3

[graceful summit]

Ss3 Rosetta instead

[simple dew]

ss3 hyperreal

im about to get ss luminance from pulling her shards

[stray siren]

Really funny times

[simple dew]

s7

[peak halo]

Trolling wz was his job

[sonic tide]

Ss3 pulse

[simple dew]

ss3 entropy

[peak halo]

No sss nanami cuz she
With liv

[simple dew]

i dont even have any idea what exactly ss3 vera do aside from 10% amp

[peak halo]

O true forgot u intent to skip her cuz nor amp

[simple dew]

yea but how much is 3 more damage ticks

how much does 1 tick even deal

how many ticks are ther

[dawn cloak]

You either compensate it with higher rank Nana or lightning amp
Just for some numbers
SS3 Nana + SS3 Liv scores 1m higher than solo SSS Nana

[solemn berry]

Ok I've sold your body for the betterment of science research

Expect a knock on your door this business week

[dawn cloak]

But if you have SSS Nana, u need minimum SS3 Liv to make swap worth more score

[peak halo]

Ohh forgor wording

But anyway
I not had doors

[dawn cloak]

Nope.
Just search nuke channel

SS0 Liv is garbage, SS3 Liv is amazing
Thats it

[crystal rune]

SSS liv is even better

[simple dew]

sss+ for human rights

[deft apex]

Liffu skip?

She kinda mid yea

[peak halo]

Ss mid
Sss god tier

[dawn cloak]

Where your own paid SSS Liv

[deft apex]

Like

[crystal rune]

[deft apex]

Even teddy is better in comparison

For the team in general anyway

[dawn cloak]

Dunno man, u can just do this tbh

[deft apex]

#🌞・trophy-room

(Contractually obliged to)

[buoyant hornet]

I wonder if that was a thing while I was playing because I feel like I can vaguely remember it but it might just be hallucinations

I played between roland patch > bambi patch then from cw > present

was shark in wz during those times?

[jovial current]

does tebby need dlt for ice dps

[distant wren]

nope

[graceful summit]

No

[jovial current]

what's her rot

[graceful summit]

Very simplified rot
She's flexible so there's not really any orb order that's better than the rest

Btw if wanshi not sss do 2 stack on teddy first ult (ex. Blue & yellow) to not get much downtime

[keen sable]

ss0 liv is kind joke

[peak halo]

Yep

[keen sable]

even bianca feels better at s00

[normal sierra]

ss3 is joke too

[peak halo]

Ss is like sss+ cw

[jovial current]

is there text version

[peak halo]

Donno
If i know solo ss3 liv is better than swap liv

[crimson swan]

[distant wren]

[normal sierra]

everything is a joke below sss

[peak halo]

For my acc sadly thats the truth

[jovial current]

yeah is there version for ss3 banji

[orchid owl]

Except Vera

And Nanami

[peak halo]

@jovial current
After "btw"

[jovial current]

I don't understand what it means sorry

[graceful summit]

[peak halo]

U just seen the pic
And not read with ori wrote

[graceful summit]

Swap in > yellow > ult1 > 2 orb sequence (for example blue & yellow) > ult2
3x3p white > red > ult1 > 3 orb sequence (for example red, yellow and blue) > ult2 > swap out

To trigger blue orb, you have to hold basic attack, then blue orb will appear

[jovial current]

finally a proper language

thx

[graceful summit]

To trigger yellow orb, you have to do 3x basic attack, or 1x basic attack if done after blue or red orb sequence

Red orb, 4x white orb (red orb autopinged on 4th orb)

[stray siren]

Yeah, I think they removed her from WZ around Lamia patch

[jovial current]

at what point they removed custom wz stages

[distant wren]

custom?

[jovial current]

I mean like frozen red tide with windmills

[distant wren]

oh the old ice map

yea that's been removed since like uhh... luna patch

[deft apex]

i heard yellow red blue best

☺️

[graceful summit]

[slate gull]

why

[carmine roost]

Shi

[deft apex]

faster or sum

idk

[distant wren]

[carmine roost]

Yellow start is slower cuz u'd actually need 3 basic before actually able to cast yellow orb

As far as I've understand it

[slate gull]

[carmine roost]

Invite what

[graceful summit]

Event over already

[slate gull]

ori took all returnees

smh

[graceful summit]

[slate gull]

kuso would never

[graceful summit]

[keen sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804748436616118314/1433802411159588984/image0.gif

[radiant panther]

Is Nihil wz so shiety rn?

[carmine roost]

Not so shiety

Ish AoE is huge

Luna dash has gather

[rotund fox]

Do we actually have units that deal this dmg?

[carmine roost]

As long as you're not aiming towards the 180° of the enemies direction, you'll hit everything

[radiant panther]

[limber yoke]

mobs so shieldty

[radiant panther]

me staring to Luna

[carmine roost]

My Luna been doing fine so far

Not sure about yours

[radiant panther]

Luna aims right through the enemy, front facing but back targeting

[deft apex]

Not new

[carmine roost]

Can't relate

Got 6m with 2.032.0 113 in hero rn

[radiant panther]

ok later or tomorrow depending on the leaderboard opps scores

I only did Light and DF zones for now

Im busy driving my trucks in Europe

[peak halo]

My only problem with luna targeting is: when i killed a wave with hold ult1 i need to wait a ms l, how the wave spawn. Otherwise luna hit only the air.

[true pivot]

this is fun

[final fog]

Is that intended or bug?

[graceful summit]

[true pivot]

probably visual

[round lake]

It's pay to win skin

[peak halo]

I wanna say
Yes
This skin helped me learning a mistake on my ish rot

[keen sable]

dogshit skin

[true pivot]

this coating blinds me completely

more like pay 2 lose

[round lake]

But Ish base can already blind

Fortunately I'm playing on low graphic, yay potato phone perk

[true pivot]

the issue with her gacha coating is that after her ult2, she has like a second more animation even when you swap out so you cant see what the hell is going on

[keen sable]

yea they didnt even bother fixing that

[weary hedge]

Should I use my vouchers to go for SS teddy? Lilith is ss7, wata is ss4,wanshi is ss0, and Luna is S as I haven't needed to use her yet

I was originally thinking of going for ss3 wanshi but idk

[graceful summit]

Yes

Teddy ss0 better

[true pivot]

so, how much ppc shards do you have

[weary hedge]

392

[true pivot]

oh the first image are shards

mb

shard ted vouch lilith

[weary hedge]

Enjoy the heart attack https://huaxu.app/na/players/27905875/characters

[true pivot]

at least thats my opinion

idk others

[graceful summit]

Ehh better save the skulls for Rosetta first

[weary hedge]

Hmm

[true pivot]

have you done the ppc side quest

[weary hedge]

Maybe all my vouchers on teddy for 20 shards, 10 shards from ppc, and save the rest for Rosetta?

[weary hedge]

Side quest? You mean the bosses you can do for achievements? If so yeah

[true pivot]

oof

[weary hedge]

@unborn hound thoughts on my idea?

[true pivot]

lilith is at ss7 tho, isnt it just better to 3s her

[quartz dirge]

anyone know teddys build ?

[graceful summit]

But atleast get teddy to ss0

So she can double rot

Below ss she's locked to 1 ult

[knotty pier]

Do different servers have different characters?

[graceful summit]

Lacking orbs

[quartz dirge]

i have her SS8

I NEED BUILD

[graceful summit]

4 Joanna 4 chen

Atk ult

[quartz dirge]

yeah thx

[true pivot]

neither is using vouchers on teddy though?

[graceful summit]

That's why 20 voucher shards 10 skulls shards

By the time rose release should have enough I think

[weary hedge]

Not anymore

[knotty pier]

So, it was

[weary hedge]

Cn was ahead of us until a patch ago

[true pivot]

its like 300 shards

[knotty pier]

My account is also in Asia Pacific

[weary hedge]

Still, 16k vouchers is a lot...

[buoyant hornet]

That's funny lmfao

[fading elm]

Is new Rosetta still a qte bot?

[stray siren]

No

[keen sable]

lilith the qte bot now

[stray siren]

But now Lilith is dead

[fading elm]

No way

[fluid gulch]

WHAT

[wanton hatch]

Ampmael

[fading elm]

Like lilith is actually a qte bot now or just not the main big damage now

[wanton hatch]

we will see still

[fading elm]

I don't have sss Bonc so ig lilith stays

[fading elm]

[fluid gulch]

So another team to use Vera in

[simple dew]

ss3?

[north snow]

Hellooo. I have a question... Many characters work for multiple teams... for Example Veronica works for slash, physical and ignite team... Am i supposed to make multiple different builds for her? And swap one by one each stigmata before going into the battle? Or how does that work? That seems so impractical... Making multiple builds...

[graceful summit]

Yes

You have kinda have to

[stray siren]

SS3 Bianca can do 4 ults per rot using Cottie

The question would be if SS/SS3 Rosetta is enough for those 4 ultimates to do enough damage

[north snow]

... -_- thats so annoying... why not make their set both for support and dps??

I mean their signature set... Why dont they make it for all roles for the character

[peak halo]

Do u want a entire kit in a 4pc

[north snow]

Yea

[simple dew]

then characters would just always do 4pc sig + 4pc cottie/guin/elemental mem

[stray siren]

Well, that's how the game works if you want to get the maximum score in each game mode.

Ishmael SSS currently has 24 different sets that you use depending on the enemy in PPC and its difficulty

[plain oyster]

[stray siren]

If you're not interested in the maximum score, You can use 3 or 4 sets and get a score that takes you to the top 20

[peak halo]

Yeap
Atleast i build 8 of them

[north snow]

Okeoke,... I just dont get why they dont make the game much more comfy to play...

[stray siren]

PGR is suffering

Don't know, Rosetta SS0 is supposed to be slightly better than Karen SSS

Or well, that's what I read during v1

[peak halo]

U can play comfy
U only want to do it if want high scores in ppc and wz

[north snow]

Like in here xd

[simple dew]

ew hi3

[peak halo]

If just play 1 tap
The general build u needs

[graceful summit]

I mean it could, if kuro doesn't make such mid sig set

[peak halo]

Then pgr will be boring a bit
Team build simple in gpr to comper tho genshin and wuwa, cuz not needs work with substats much

But who want which

[north snow]

uPGRADING stigmatas definitely isnt the fun im looking for in pgr

[peak halo]

Then why u upgrade here
She ded

[simple dew]

we could always have the relic system

[peak halo]

[north snow]

What do you mean by relic system?

[simple dew]

hsr/genshin/wuwa

[north snow]

Those are bad

[peak halo]

I guess its all preference

[north snow]

Have played multiple of those... However when I see how many aspects PGR copied from Honkai Impact 3rd they could also copy this thing since its really good.

[peak halo]

[simple dew]

locking nearly the entire charas kit to their sig set and weapon would be boring

[peak halo]

Yep

[simple dew]

no room for customization

[spiral merlin]

wdym

[north snow]

What do you mean???

[spiral merlin]

they already do

Clueless~1

[simple dew]

[north snow]

room for customization... In HI3 you have more customization just by placing the character not first in the team. + you dont have the annyoing stuff of doing multiple builds

I mean that In reality it doesnt really affect much, how you play the character in the game

More important difference is if its support or dps

[peak halo]

Then will what u do the 1billion cogs and 100k ht mats in ur inventory?

[simple dew]

build every outdated character

[peak halo]

And in here effect brutal much how u builds a chara and how u play the chara

[simple dew]

does phase 1 ephialtes have any parriable attacks

this mans barely attacks

[peak halo]

If u not like this system then only 1 thing u can do
I did multiple times just by that with a game

If u not like building 2 set for a character then

This game not for u

[graceful summit]

Only on phase 2

[simple dew]

i got a parry from phase 1

but no clue which attack

[north snow]

Whz would i quit game over something like that xD

[graceful summit]

Afaik the parryable one is scythe attacks

Which is only on phase 2

[peak halo]

I just saying my sht

[simple dew]

his backflip in red form can be parried

[graceful summit]

[north snow]

This is the problem... You cant criticize anything about the game without people getting mad and telling you to leave... Thats why many games dont improve or dont improve as much as they could

And im a huge fan of pgr... in my opinion second best gacha right now

[simple dew]

ok but sacrificing variability for accessibility isnt an improvement

[north snow]

Its not creativity... sorry, but this is not epic seven where the build would change the feeling from the gameplay so much

[noble zinc]

It does

Change

[north snow]

Doesnt... You saying yes is just a blinded defending of any aspect from the game

[noble zinc]

ok

[simple dew]

kekw

[graceful summit]

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/892718733209002005.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worrykekleave

[peak halo]

Do u think will be pgr improve if if needed only 1 build for a characters

I mean theres some ppl which play the game for this
Minmax scores
But if pgr do 1 build/ chara
Thats ppl creativity will be get limited

Will be not theres low score with ss0 in ppc

Cuz lot of tactic allowed by builds

[peak halo]

Also play patton rosen

[north snow]

Its not creativity??? For ignite team you have this build... for physical team you have another build.... If you have SS+ then thise set is better... Its not really about creativity... Its about you having to have multiple sets for best scores possible

You dont really understand what creativity means...

[graceful summit]

[peak halo]

Then which is it?

[noble zinc]

Power

[peak halo]

Im just a stupid pleb

[north snow]

In epic seven... you can decide whether youll play unit slow counter... or very fast opener, or lifesteal bruised... that is an example of creativity.

[graceful summit]

That's, what min maxing does
Playing meta is to achieve the highest possible score

If you don't want to then you just don't need to chase meta

[meager sleet]

[peak halo]

General build always theres
I talking about when u need change that

[simple dew]

i lovr gayshin impact

[north snow]

why?

No? In Honkai Impact 3rd one build is universal and then the team setup matters

No? Its about build... you give him the most speed in build or counter set with some hp or lifesteal set with some hp and dmg

[ashen parcel]

I got 9mil on darkflow to day

yaya

[peak halo]

Ok but its not honkai
Hi3 played like that
Pgr played like that

[graceful summit]

And what team setup are we talking about
Cuz I'm sure as hell there's nothing like that in pgr

And ultimately they're both a different game

You don't compare them

[meager sleet]

[peak halo]

I know theres ppl who think
Pgr is just a another hi3, but
Not

[peak halo]

True

[north snow]

In Honkai Impact 3rd part 2 every character is main dps and also support... It depends on who the leader is and he will be the main dps. Also theres different astral rings which is a bit complicated however I just suggested a thing which would make PGR better in my opinion... dont need to get so mad about that. ANd I mentioned Honkai bcs people here keep saying that in other games its like in pgr

[graceful summit]

[simple dew]

en va for llyod cooked

[noble zinc]

Pak sp delay still stuck

[peak halo]

Wdym?

[noble zinc]

18mil need

Sp delay can't properly

Or nana bricking

Going other side of map

[stray siren]

I understand.

The problem is that in PGR it doesn't work that way, because you need min-max.

The reason some characters have 20+ sets of memories is because there are approximately 10 enemies, and each enemy has 3 difficulties. So for each enemy and difficulty level, you require almost a specific set.

[stray siren]

A combination of words I didn't think I'd hear so soon

[simple dew]

wait they gave bianca glow and vera darkflow for rapid pursuit

vero didnt get ignition

[noble zinc]

Like wtf

[peak halo]

Yeah for casual players
Or i said instead lazy players will be a good thinks which u said.
But which i said before:" who which want"

Also u can play like that this game, nothing stop u

Its just minmax

U can build even general builds for who support
Who dps
And use that in content

If not intent minmax score

[stray siren]

[peak halo]

Not the way u want but u can do

[noble zinc]

Also short ult sp delay waaa so weird

[peak halo]

For me long ult
I get it now why not get my 3p input

Hba blocking it

[noble zinc]

Main problem can't be slow

Those near perfect frame input need to fit

[simple dew]

what bosses were there in the last rapid pursuit

[noble zinc]

Am mostly ulting without 3p

[golden merlin]

[peak halo]

Im also now start to fastering the rot
But donno how this week
Im kinda busy this week

[noble zinc]

This week light good only

Rest all trash

Next time try light least fun

Only sp delay

[noble zinc]

except bear

[peak halo]

All good for me

I mean
Mobs is fun to me

I only hate 2 elite

Btw 1 of two always in half hp

[peak halo]

I will
I atleast do a 1 tap full short ult sp

[noble zinc]

Oh its ish fault

Just dragged that enmy to map corner

@distant wren see this delulu

[graceful summit]

[stray siren]

I hope she does that with me

[simple dew]

[keen meteor]

real

I'm ready to be dragged in a corner by ish

[fluid gulch]

[noble zinc]

【莉神陨落！2.0比安卡携手2.0罗塞塔双切957万！-哔哩哔哩】 https://vxb23.tv/IEtZCd0
223 10mil?

Or 11+ if boss

[fluid gulch]

tf did they feed rose?

[stray siren]

This does look better

[noble zinc]

[simple dew]

≤3 hits
twins
plume and entropy trial

[fluid gulch]

oh nah

wtf is that bs

[upbeat phoenix]

223? Thats an SS Bianca??

[noble zinc]

Yea

[simple dew]

lilith unused

[noble zinc]

Now need to see how goes without Bianca

Cuz 3s Lilith strong

[simple dew]

god the female twin pmo

[fluid gulch]

I would happily get ss3 rose if it means ditching midanca

[normal sierra]

brah, using 4pc fred on a qte bot for debuff is creativity, just to name one case

[normal sierra]

we be ditching that useless bath towel midness together

[visual topaz]

whut bianca benched already?

[normal sierra]

on pleb invest. maybe. we will see when horse comes

[visual topaz]

what no right invest runs? Karen Rosetta Lilith?

[normal sierra]

ss0 got no qte nuke, so 99% of her relevance in the team is negated

[simple dew]

bianca getting already benched would be a circus

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

[visual topaz]

everyone had enuff of her techs shenanigans

[normal sierra]

prolly a 2nd amp for support mems + weap resos

[simple dew]

who else

[spiral merlin]

shes strong and an amp

i personally think ish has more value but you know evilliv

vera good too

who else are you going to pick

[simple dew]

ish when theres no attacker in the team

[normal sierra]

pick q*, trust

[spiral merlin]

youll get those eventually, or if you have tank/amp main dps you can sub in a dummy a rank

obviously its not ideal but this is for new players

yea banned

[simple dew]

no

can someone mute him for 1 min

[spiral merlin]

i can delete messages

thats essentially the same

pee

[noble zinc]

[normal sierra]

mute him for 1 year

[simple dew]

moderator but made in kowloong

[spiral merlin]

i cant even bypass a chat cd anymore

this is the one thing i have left

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

helper no right

[spiral merlin]

vera can darkflow

not well but can

[simple dew]

can vero solo

[spiral merlin]

WorryThinkAsian

[simple dew]

vero

[spiral merlin]

nana solo burn is competent enough to be good

[simple dew]

phys still washed without hanying

[verbal forge]

Only work in help Channels

[spiral merlin]

yea thats what i mean, no cd in help channels anymore

cooked

[verbal forge]

3rd of February will be at leas on general

[spiral merlin]

poggies

[simple dew]

can we throw twins into a dumpster

[simple dew]

they couldve atleast given us crimson washed for the memes

[spiral merlin]

ish always makes sense

my goat

[normal sierra]

her story chapter:

[spiral merlin]

luna is basically free

yea

[spiral merlin]

ishsob

[simple dew]

then sponsor a free luna for everyone