#📨・meta-help
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whats the other affix zone
Df fire
K whel
hmm
Yea gera dmg is too big
My wife is strong
tap faster
No
wow trash belongs with trash


Watrash and Wanshit
What's vera dps build? I am cooked for ppc
shake cottie
4shake 4 cottie
Atk ult reso
I don't have sig, still cottie?

heravor doesn't work?
Donno how sigless dmg vera look like sorry
Hervor good if solo vera wz
Ppc not really

Hervor work when ur solo vera couldn't kill boss after 2 ult
Why Ônly use Vera atp
Ask the guy
Sigless huh
it looks sad 
Yep i just sad how i instantly can get sigs
And dont think about sigless things
I get sig at 1 pull
Same but anyway i pull 10s
More sigs

does wata still use alphonse in darkflow?

yes
i joined in to witness the fight
if i have SSS teddy, nihil is Teddy Luna Ish or is SSS tank passive still better?
even in nihil? 
What's on entropic?
Fire/df
I see Liv propaganda 

vera propaganda


scores gonna be poppin off this week
Missed opportunity 
Real
Me in leg with SS vera: 
Lightning wz rot? 2.323
Just entering legend again, my score is 6m, guy above me 14m on lightning wz

I joined at 12:02 like usual too
I was busy with work, couldn’t use my phone 

💔 3rd already
I still remember first time reaching legend and went into the same bracket as Xeno & Zebratu

Get used to Lilith, because she'll be the meta amplifier for Nihil the next patch if your Rosetta isn't SSS
Although I think it might also depend on Ishmael's rank
Baptised to the max
Could’ve happened again
Real. Missed opportunity smh
Me in NA, with Jere and Zorat
💔 I didn't even want to get here. Was first in hero for some reason
Could’ve had 3 S+ in the same lobby
🥀
I miss both
i joined in early too so i can just relax for the week while watching people snipe each other
r yall whel ass brackets filled yet
And the world shall know this 3rd rate player that is me 
come join yomm 
I'll be popular as "this guy shows up every other week to get booted off legend"
cmon you aint losing nothing 
6 dalaos in my bracket in legend 
is the new QTE shenanigan from rose over SSS?
Yeah, Ishmael SSS is a must
Or cope
Nah
oops
@crystal rune is ur bracket full yet
Mayhaps
if its not full i will kil u
got u
is it me or SSS luna is kinda underwhelming lol
aside of her just demolishing the EQ shield
the dmg is meh lol
SS3 ish deals more dmg unsurprisingly
Old character, it's quite noticeable
i joined on a 4am wednesday and i met up with qqq

it was January 11, 2025 when she released. that's with sync
does rosetta really that underwhelming on dark or just cus bianca too broken when in high invest?
could be both
high invest issues ig
so we can expect she usable on lower invest right?
she's truly becoming premium qte bot eh
in dark, not so in TS i guess
I will just boot midanca from the team, useless hag 
ok ppc haxxer
no runs for low invest wz
only ppc
Shut up Laovisha
I never said you could speak
why are you still roleplaying here
midanca already out of ppc if low invest 

is lucia crimson weave still meta?if not who do i replace her
no longer meta a long time ago. use Liv limpy diddy
you wait for rerun
damn
if you want to go lightning use Nanami Startrail
what about daemonissa
Wait for new alpha i guess, she's probably gotta be new limited, so liv probably rerun there
dark amplifier
oh damn i got no bianca
she can still carry dark
will laurel suffice
oh
rather go solo lilith atp
you have Luna Oblivion?
laurel 
lemme check
have this one use a zaza comp
dont got
send your huaxu
i invested sum on lucia she on ss bru
huaxu?
pick server then put ID
oh send it to #📨・general-help too
more people that can help there 
Explore the 19 characters of JohnJoestar from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
2 chars now on limited means 50/50 gamba 
Wut wz elements
Sure, and after that the percentage gonna be more lower
light boss
void mobs
fire/df mobs
Pak u, I failed to snipe that eltra guy last night, I'm too washed 
I FORGOT HOW TO PLAY ALL OF THE ZONES AUGH
He forgot
Spam rotation, I hope I've helped 
Worth if that's the only thing left you can buy with voucher
Ult dmg
Define worth
If you already have all your voucherable characters in SSS0, Luna SSS3 is a good option
Although I think Teddy SSS6 would be more profitable in terms of score
I use voucher to buy excess shards and turn them into more shard for later use
40% edb on both ult is pretty bonker
3s6 is a bit of a grind there i see
Good plan too
Okay thx
Imma use it on the bp shard
whel talk, im out
i am gonna toucha you
my inflated hero ass taking 1st and im out lmfao
wz zone and weather?
I dont understand how darkflow work
Beside nabe and vera HOLD ult.
What does liv do?
Special move?
this is paiun
just make it 10 stacks and she will turn her attacks into df
Darkflow vs fire, which one is better? I have SSS pyroath and ss3 liv
darkflow, not even close
And we just core over the place?
I got 9.4Mil with fire, but i’m kinda skeptical with darkflow cuz idk how to run honestly 😭
just do her standart rot
What is her standard rot ...
long long iirc, i forgor the combo

blow up stuff
Okay
Mob's 🥝
not u again
Come here u
my first 2.2m 
teach DF rot plz
I'm still learning myself

my first 1m df
Awesome lesbian couple /Evil and intimidating Wanshi
LAO 
Y'all got any vera build?
Every time I try to Dodge cancel ult won't appear, I have to hold ba


Or was it gnie
Need 2pc cottie to do dodge cancel

4DV 4Cottie is ok if Pyro at SSS
What if SS3?

4 shake
Vera still main dps over Pyro
So 4shakes better
Dv not good if low invest pyro
Nice² thanks gays


You can 350++
What's wz
warzone

its Lightning Nihil Df/Fire
What
Waifu Zone
My dumbarse forgot to ask resonance
fk mobs wz
Donno why ppl hate mobs
Top any +atk bottom ult since vera dps
Same team
If got no Liv go fire
-kuro probably
Thanks gays
Best lineup for


I thought its for Yoshiko gaylao?
Oh wait you two are different person
Similar pfp I thought same person

Its laggy for me
Mobs score bad, laggy, miss one mobs on the corner of stage
bruh idk how to lightning anymore

wdym similar pfp?? dawg its priestess who dark blasted ex-wife
Yea I thought u change pfp lol

No, get 620k 
I see
My only problem that time is that grouping
But donno i guess i learned groupping well them
grouplao
Nah im unable to get the lao title
Should will be better than my 1taps
Zamn SSS Feral
what the whel
what am i gonna do, keep her at ss6?
Imagine having SSS feral but no SSS nanami
feral was free and she was at ss6

if they gave me a selector instead i wouldnt even have a 3s feral rn
Alpha + Feral as gifts were a damn scam
Its was cycle of fire right?
It was cycle of fire yes
Just last week
And last last week
This is the 3rd time we get fire
Kusogames doing things nobody asked for

satisfied

Now satistified back to legend
how to 11s madorea using SS3 Luna 4sam 2glo 4 ein and SS7teddy 4DV 4Guin?
also 3S wan
Kill with teddy
You can already do 9s with wanshi
How? Do I need more buffs?
Wait wai 4sam luna

12s with Luna Ish Wan
previously
Any improvements?
I could change things
what are the inputs i forget
Why use heal memo on luna
No sam on luna
Luna not heal
Gloria 2 glory 2 eins 4 dv
Teddy 4guin 4sam
She doesn't heal
If wanshi dps
ok lemme change things up
6 bullet ult
Good thing Madorea start at 4sec
9 sec ez
Donno fred can use
Wanshi guess a bit lately ult
thats it?
Recent boss start at 5 sec 
Yours is SSS6 Wanshe bro
Should kill ~~ or get SSS Teddy to make sure ~~

He certified wanshi simp ig
Then why not s+
Ohh wait he mini whel
i have both...

oki
6 bullet ult wanshi is 3sec
Mado start is 4 sec, thats 7sec kill
And 9 sec stage ends
i will hope to copy ori 9/9/9
Where 7/7/7
Is this like the best lightning weather rn?

No
Well
Maybe for you it is
For me nana gets bricked in her own weather
4s nana that bad
3S nana skips 2nd rot 3p, so her rot is unbuffed
Scire
It increases light buff with ult and signal orbs
Anyway 3s nana still brick
Ooohh
That's pretty good yeah
When nana demotied to 1 rot
Altho tbf nana would still have to hold sig
Nvm she still need 4pc sigmem
Yes
that means can do 2 full ult next rot right
No
so 1 fast 1 full still?
1fast1full1fast
ohh
aight imma try
Wtf df mobs still good 
Should I be soloing Lightning zone or swap with SS3 Nanaknight if SS3 Liv?
Swap can 10m maybe
I see
I got 9.8
Yomm vid have input
3S Feral is better than SS3 Ishmael.
Rotations from this dalao: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV186m8BWERa/
Song used:
Hurricanes - Cosmograph (feat. Pernelle)
https://youtu.be/dYNJMVh2LSQ?si=bxMvmuc8dpFox5KQ
Hyperdimension Neptunia: Hand Off - Hiroaki Tsutsumi
https://youtu.be/YrqxjOtAsqQ?si=PZnDeKrkmwcqWGDl
0:00 - Run
4:55 - Builds
What's niil rotation?
okay score got better but still brick
me no dalao
not enough 2 bar left nooo I got it 7 sec, its not enough, I need more
Whaf ss3 ish rot
Ok I got SS3 Luna with 4DV 2Glo 2Ein SS7 Teddy 4Guin 4Sam(supposedly built) 3S Wanshi
What I need to improve more?
Why not just do teddy dps 
What rotation for Ishmael/vera/Luna Nihil
which wz
light leg
What rank
SSS
BRUH
i thought u were asking to help me with rotation
You just came to point fingers
Not even SSS+ on these ones
it's the same at ss0 really
No
I thought you are SS0 ~ SS3 when you asked for rotation
I could have helped
SSS0 rotation changes completely for Ishmael
Luna stays the same
It's the same for SS3 ish
By replacing dlt with matrix lightning on luna and using deer on vera to kill the Roseblade on the w44, the w45 will be the shield wave so if we're stuck at the same wave, this is the score you will get.
Asia-Legend Void warzone
ของสวมใส่อยู่ในคลิปจ้า
(All the builds are in the video)
s+ luna 4sig4c...
Ty
Lesgoo so no loss and I am getting a busted unit
7 minutes long bro 😭

Do we swap to Ishmael at all if we’re doing this?
Lemme buy her then

Maybe 2 ult rots for Ishmael instead of 3
Pay me
2 qte during nanami axe smash or 2 qte if nanami ult?
Ok
How do I join lost again
Just click on the tag and join or sm
Best Resonances for Teddy?
weapon reso?
Yepp
if your other amp is r2, you can go with incan/ml.
otherwise go with sar/spear
Ga
Theddy have ga
Thanks
she doesnt need dlt so dont mind that
I don't really wanna be known as mambo

It's just
you're not mambon?

Yes
There’s still downtime
something something i give up
As it stands first and only 20m in mobs lightning in PGR Global
https://discord.gg/lostsanity
Join lost sanity!!!!!
#pgr #punishinggrayraven #punishinggrayravenglobal #pgrglobal #punishinggrayravenenglish
Just ping one orb bro, so she doesnt bricked smh
Also so her slam can get qte buffed
This boomer is not gonna see any downtime
The rot is tight as hell and you Litetally can’t lose even a quarter of a second
Size getting bigger everytiem lol
Just dont, save your sanity 
RIP
PGR, the gaem where u whel more u mald more

Unless get enought score with 1taps to defend legend
And get a slacc bracket
How big is the game on mobile
I'm either coming back as a casual
Or I'm going all in and finishing the goal I had for myself
500gb
Guys i thought of pulling her for crimson and oblivion
Is she still accurate for them

Idk which a rank to select tho
For CW?
Crimson weave
You can just forget about lightning team until you get nanami or liv
Yes ish technically works
But cw is a bad unit
Ish is a very very solid pick overall though so not a bad idea
I just wouldn't invest anything into cw
Should I make teddy sss if I'm planning to make her dps
I see
What about oblivion, is ish good with her and is oblivion a good unit @spiral merlin
And how do I get free teddy
I started today
Service
Ohh
She is dps
Can get her for $1
I got her
It's in the mission at the bottom
Yeah she's in a very good spot and ish is required for her
I see
Gotcha

So do I need to know about any other unit from the beginners banner or should I go with ish for oblivion

Is CW bad with leap thingy too 
The only other choice to recommend is vera really the rest would need a full team to make work
Any newbie accounts without Vera Geiravor and Nanami Startrail can be considered bricked
I see, roger that
Nanami is always available thru thunderbolt banner or whatever
So no need to pull her from standard
Yes very bad
Oh
💀
The ideal way is be Vera Gay from Standard and Nanami from Thunderbolt
and here I was coping that kuro gave herfor free
Ohh
They gave her for free because she sucks

Ish is a bandaid and high end unit
Do I need to ht vera I'm done building her as a dps
Ig i would make a team of oblivion and ish for now, lemme check on gay and nanami before that
Ish's constantly evolving kit is invaluable
Yeah ofc hypertune all ur DPS
If you have sss ish you just have the broken breaker class qte boost if Lilith is in the team
Her animations tho 
It's crazy
What good rank if I make teddy dps ss3 or sss
ss3 teddy outperforms sss qu but sss teddy is preferred
As with all free units
SSS new Amp always gud, safe pick with long life ahead

Well my ayla is close to sss she's ss7 she'll probably carry them

Why would you even invest in Ayla at this point
U late kinda a year with that
Ish can Store qte charges?
Damm this gay unit is cool,
She reminds me of lupa from wuthering waves
Is she a dps or buffer
Both
If she's sss and Lilith is in the team yes
And would she fit in my oblivion team
And what are the odds if i don't pull her
Wtf
Vera Gay is considered the best unit in the game along with Nanami
Cz i don't wanna have 3 dps to start with
My wife goated as expected

Ohhh
Hmm so should I make wanshi lilith and teddy in ice
We don't glaze Vera enough for newbies
So lilith became best pick for next patch
They better give selector with ish
Best they can do is Pyrowashed
feb -2
Realistically yeah it's gonna be up to pyro
Well atleast I can grab SS3 Hanging from that
I see
Lemme check if nanami is freely available from thunderbolt thingy
Aint gonna help much but well, not like there's any other choice
Hmmmm... leaks or speculations?
It's not free but she is available
Speculations
When I get my hands back on pgr
We don't even know if there is a selector
It's Feb 3 not 2
I'll finally start theorycrafting
Pick the right Nanami btw there are 4 of her
brother, why are you coming back to a dead game
What does it matter if it's dead
fair
@dawn cloak do u play on my acc daily or what
💀💀💀
We've gotten free selector every CNY so far
Doesn't mean Kusogames can't just skip it because fck them F2Ps
imagine if selector went up to startrail
I am thinking:
If i pull ish i will have a team for oblivion
But if i pull gay or nanami ionno
Nah don't give people hope


Is startrail before or after selena
Before
Damnit

Wait let me see if I get the order right
Vera is the fire team and Nanami is half the lightning team

Nihil team will work for as long as you have Luna, even if it's not optimal
Fire team straight up doesn't exist without Vera and Fire contents are very common
Tho for all intents and purposes since liv is limited fk kusogame nanami can function perfectly well solo too
Teddy Luna Bridget Hanying Wanshi Lucia Yata Nanami Selena Jeta Ishmael Vera Bianca Vero??
Fck Kusogames
This is my roster lmao
Ohhh
btw which element is rosetta
Cursed
oh no
New players have it rough
She's a dark breaker which is just a better dark tank
daren is forever dark tank then.
Btw Tank is the best class in this game
Wait
No Tank no team
Dark tank rosetta?
Dark breaker

"Better" Tank
What the hell is a dark breaker

Imagine a tank but better
Calm down I haven't played this game in 2 months
Holy noly
I'm coming back
What if we take the best class in the game and make them even better
Wait no I have to wait for kamui
alr gng, i am pulling gay vera with this roster 
crazy how quick they get bro back
No I'm joking
but rosetta is a lazy horse
Honse
I'll come back soon but not this month
oh yeah how did that meme even start
I personally think more value is with ish than bera but that's probably fine
but you won't have enough BC 😢
okay!
🧑✈️
Can u imagine being the most broken unit in the game but as a QTE bot
I am confused atp lmao
i lke mambon

New class: cheerleader
So june is the new alpha ?
Put it this way you either have a super strong dps now who becomes sidegrade later or you have flexible unit who can slot in most tank/amp slots as qte bot and evolves with time 
Is dark different from nihil
Yes
OMG MAMBO (or whatever identity you're stealing this time)
My child is back
Yay
Oh who is the flexible unit

Ishmael
I have multiple newbie accounts and Vera Gay is always the easiest way to get access to stable BC income
Ish is a very technical unit who can't carry shjt until you already have multiple strong units AKA endgame
Gayravor
Interesting
Let's hope kamui isn't cheerleader class too imagine he's weaker than pyrooath onfield
Stop
Like, would you take a gud support first if u have no DPS to begin with
Mind you we have some strong units readily available now and soon
You do not speak of Kamui slander within my presence
Gayravor but not used in Gaydiance
now that i think about it
so i have two suggestions now
- Ish is flexible and future proof
- Gay vera cooks and gets me BC income (idk what BC is)
But none of them can solo kill Shorthalt and Gwyn though
all the characters announced are almost out already
only kamui nirvatia and alpha left
I believe newbies usually have two roadblocks
Norman & PPC
and the year just started
She doesn't have 9 AP yet = bricked

Yay ya yay kakakakamui

Ish is the PPC quen only when u have DPS
who's next after honse? nirvatia?
are they planning another livestream or ?
I'm not coming back to this place the same way I was here early on
Why are we so focused on fire bosses
Should be
dont worry it was well documented mambon
Cause it's one of the main element
Other bosses exist too that will be cucked either way
We usually only get streams on anni and half anni no?
I am reading magma and penguin and learning the game
The sooner he gets all ele team covered the better
no? only on anni iirc
Imagine how good selena would be in ppc if ish was adapting to phys
July?
december
I'd rate Ish higher if we're confirmed to get any new Fire unit in the near future
I just think it's a bit silly to talk about ppc like this when nihil is super strong for ppc in a lot of scenarios
Not for newbies I can say that for sure
The day we get a void boss will be a strange one
What they need is something to solo carry one side
If this were any other element than fire you can make the same argument for not being able to score high on bosses
No ish ap free ripge
Well technically luna can just work without ish actually lmfao
Prob not gonna happen at this point they would've already
For a new account, Vera still solo better than Ish if we're talking about neutral situation
No I think they're just waiting for the 3rd proper void unit first, having a void boss would be a damn mess because of how many combinations there are for the 3rd slot
It's not like affix where there's one set team that they can exclude main element bosses that need those 3 units
Also I just clocked your bc argument
You can get all bc easily
Did you mean skulls
Maybe
I'm gonna do exppc on my bigger smurf account this week wish me luck 
Norman
I wanna do this before dropping the smurf accs
i dont think there will be a 3rd proper void class, coz wouldnt that make ish's observer class null
Vera can solo one Norman stage on her own with 5* weap
idk
We're talking about newbies man
No shot ish doesn't clear also
They're not beating it with Ish
Well ishmael's been observer for a long time now, it'll be fine to make that less useful after a while
Plus she can be used in other teams off ele still so she doesn't really lose value
Doesn't matter for newbies or not I mean these units we have are way stronger than current norman is built for
U could try Ish S rank 5* solo Norman, I never actually tried it
Swap with decryptor I fear 
The real problem here is not having enough units
Yeah hence why an unit who literally solo all contents related to her should be gud no?
Thats kinda my point
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/13907300/characters is my acc bricked do u think I can get to hero?
Explore the 61 characters of Not Mambon from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
i think you already in hero
Yeah it's good but I seriously think ish does the same and more if we mean clearing norman
Not higher straight dps or anything like that but sufficient
I mean a newbie can just ask someone to add them ingame and put a specific unit as support lol, that's what I'm doing with my smurfs I add them to my main accs and give solo-friendly supports
And cope on the other stages with whoever they have
i remember the days
With more battery to the bad teams
I mean what newbie are we talking about, Norman can be full cleared in your first month of starting these days
How to activate uniframe burst form?
No 

Burst form?
let me guess, you're a sync baby 
My strat is Vera Gay one side, Nana one side, Ice/Dark cope one size and lastly one borrow unit soloing the last stage
I am
sync joiner spotted
It’s like finishing animation for regular zone ( guild )

You mean execution?
Privilege fr 
Deplete the orange bar and basic attack
Well I just believe self sustaining units like Vera Gay is really damn good for newbies
Yea something like tht
Yes no doubt she's really damn good
Ish could be good
But later
One day I'll try out Ish new acc and see how it goes
Tbh this is tough because newbies will struggle to make use of ish herself onfield especially if they can't pull sig but she does have the long term benefit
It's a skill, if you aren't using trials you need to unlock it
If you have the skill unlocked or are using trials, then what magmadude said
Deplete the orange bar below the enemy's health (with any attacks) and press basic attack when the enemy is glowing
I personally would still choose geiravor because ishmael is more likely to appear in selectors this year
Ish is a very technical unit
We're going to get strong new dps units very soon anyways
But the ish argument is strong tbf
Rose solo TRUST
U gotta have enough knowledge or she's ass
I mean tbf if rose can solo she can just be used in norman on a separate team from lilith
Ig weapon is guaranteed for 40 pity?
Idk how newbie banner works
I didn't know how her kick is triggered until I played her in simulated siege
I used to do that in the ancient days
Ish can amp for rose that's another option
Hi citrom
Split teams that have on solo-able unit
Lilith can prob solo
They will glowing after their orange bar dissappear?
Hello
That's A rank banner, weapons are always 30 pity
I do think it'd be cool if they add a beginner pity count for sigs
I've decided to return to pgr but be a little bit more analytical to it
20 pity for first sig or something
I wanna pull Rosetta if you are referring to her
What about discord 
You should pull rosetta yes
Since sigs are much more mainstream and impactful these days
Just add one new Fire unit to the game and I'll consider Ish better
As a newbie you need all the units you can get
I'm only here to ask questions or spread information
Oh
New = good generally
My smurfs are enjoying new raydiance btw lmao makes clash reflection look like a joke
You know that fire breaker is coming soon
Even with s0 5* bonka 
I'm betting on kamui fire tank
I'm dreading that now
Can someone explain what a breaker does better than a tank exactly
Raydiance might be the highest dmg output team in the game
It's just solid for everything
They deal bonus damage
Is this a rank
It's the weapon banner
A rank 
I fully expected to struggle in CR with it esp with how scuffed the invest is, but the damage was so high that half the stages I didn't even need to ult
They just get evaporated with blue orb

Qu Shakira
Qu Sabrina
Omg so trew
That first hit of my Bianca ult in plasma wz deals 6m+ dmg
Even with slight off element penalty
the tyrant's reign is over
When is she releasing espresso in kowloong
They need some positivity
Even SS Midianca can make Gaydiance usable in Huaxu, pretty impressive
Maybe ss Bianca was a raydiance unit all along 
2.133 plasma < 233 raydiance?
Never dark
Now the only problem left is warzone without the 20 stacks
I hate that they made raydiance bricked without sss teddy lmfao
Like at least make it usable
next gaydiance breaker will add 10 more stacks
Always has been
Can we consider Teddy Vera tier?
at SSS of course
Mm I don't think so
She was sht in dark and void
Teddy can't solo really ever but wanshi is free
Ig still not enough to bear Vera
And she is free
Vera usable unit at 2s
Her rot is slow
In a swap team I think they beat bera
Hard to find that these days
Teddy improved Ice so much it's actually kinda crazy
I mean at least there's no content that requires glow yet (ib is fake) but still making a team garbage without a SSS unit (even if free) is weird
All other affixes have proper baseline functionality without sss chars lol
Curse of free unit still
Even lilith didn't have this issue 
Damn Solon making sure no poor men could touch his wife
Bianca?

If u wanna play Bonka Dark u need SSS
Gaydiance still needs Teddy SSS
you should pay him
Kill Solon
lol
later will do
do mine too
I'll prio df this week
First df week run trash
But is score worse or better
Hero 232 will push for 9m
what's vero's ignition rotation?
who's vero 
oof i do triple
based
guys is 2.35m good?

No

Is it me or what but the 2.5m looks slightly longer than the usual
hrmmmmm
No ur high
Its just u
He's trash
where 2.5m
Bro that's 2.3m

He would need 22m more
i already got it but diff week hehe
Hey that's rude, cut our newbie some slack
df max was 27m with ching chong zone too
Mob df
wait df breaker cheerleader








