📨・meta-help

[sly geyser]

or can i do more ?

[slate gull]

stop cooking dawg

[spiral merlin]

With nana as tank

[sonic tide]

How hero score way higher than legend

Maybe squeeze to 5

[noble zinc]

Bear does magic

[spiral merlin]

They fked up the scaling when they fixed waves

[noble zinc]

🐻

[sonic tide]

Classic kuro

[spiral merlin]

For some reason new waves are full of tanky af mobs

Giga score

Hero wasn't built for that

[sonic tide]

Should just spam bear in dark zone then im motivated

[noble zinc]

Hero retain now?

[spiral merlin]

Hero meta for highest scores

Time to demote legend

[sonic tide]

I mean at this point looking how kuro going to kill the point of qte timing cuz sss braker units

Hero not so bad just increase scale

[noble zinc]

Did see yea feels even without reaching wave 55 scoring giga jump cuz seeing ice scores/fire similar to leg

[sonic tide]

But welp already sunday reset soon im not motivated to do wz again

[spiral merlin]

I guess they changed scaling before then too but it's so much more noticeable at higher waves now

Like its so funny

[sonic tide]

Wait is tht this week?

[spiral merlin]

I need to see ignition score

[sonic tide]

[spiral merlin]

Ye

[graceful summit]

[noble zinc]

[sonic tide]

Huh

[spiral merlin]

Told u

[sonic tide]

What serv is tht

[slate gull]

put rosetta and it doubles

[spiral merlin]

Hero scaling is bonkers

[spiral merlin]

EU

[sonic tide]

Aight nuke sea is so bricked

@noble zinc

Time to kiwi

[noble zinc]

I know lower inv already -700 dark

Higher goes 1+

Compared to normal mob

If taking boss consider

[spiral merlin]

It's unclear whether or not mob or boss is better rn

[sly geyser]

looks like i can 6m

[spiral merlin]

Mob easiest to reach w55 earlier

[sonic tide]

Bro sea hero barely got 10m for dark

[sonic tide]

Go for it

[noble zinc]

Some zones be like that yea hax mode on

Boss some be super nerfed

[spiral merlin]

Ye need to see how scaling is with boss in hero with a good team like dark again

[sly geyser]

is there a way to 2 do 2 ults with pyro ss0 ?

not on 1 swap ofc

[buoyant hornet]

lol me

doing ice rn

[sly geyser]

u can stop there

[sonic tide]

@noble zinc

[sly geyser]

Nyooooooo!

[sonic tide]

Im not rlly gud in fire

[buoyant hornet]

Too late I already finished a run earlier

[carmine reef]

there is but whether it's good is another matter

[sly geyser]

i'm cooked

[chilly trail]

Wheres my 10

[sly geyser]

wait it's bad ?

dang

[carmine reef]

well yeah ofc

you would have to do something like a 1s1e except you would need to have cut short eclipse from previous swap

and even then you would need like 12 orbs or smth

maybe more

[sonic tide]

Kuro: Invest more

[sly geyser]

[spiral merlin]

Midcia forever remains midcia

[chilly trail]

Pyroach

[carmine reef]

it would take more time and more orbs than ss3 1s1e, which is already a sidegrade to 1e in current fire team

so i think for all intents and purposes you should just resign yourself to 1e slave for ss0

[sly geyser]

so only 1e or brick

[chilly trail]

ss0 still can do 1e1s no?

[carmine reef]

i guess so probably

but seems not worth

[sly geyser]

well better try than sorry ig

[sonic tide]

Malder

I could never

[carmine reef]

1e1s extends the overall team cycle time compared to 1e

sounds not worth for ss0 lucia

[buoyant hornet]

wdym exactly

[sly geyser]

i'm already cooked bro

[buoyant hornet]

It's def worth

[sly geyser]

me going to sleep

[steady otter]

b b but we won as no 1 f2p game

[sly geyser]

huh?

[sonic tide]

Which one is yours

[buoyant hornet]

1e1s is stonks for ss0 lucia

[sly geyser]

spit the tea

[carmine reef]

[sly geyser]

bb ? black beacon ?

[nova forum]

segs

[chilly trail]

f2p

[buoyant hornet]

nuke has a guide on 1e1s here
https://youtu.be/EoJGSfpu5l4?si=VCeLOdUX-GKa_9wQ

[sonic tide]

Nu uh it's evolve to pak them spenders

[sly geyser]

look at that invest bro

[buoyant hornet]

Lucia stronk at ss0 too just just doesn't have the nukes to make vera's breakpoints smoother I fear

[sly geyser]

i'm nowhere near that

[blazing sorrel]

OK, how am I supposed to solo with Teddy in WZ if she runs out of orbs in 2 rotations?

[buoyant hornet]

ignore the invest it's the same principle

[carmine reef]

who told you that you could solo with teddy

[buoyant hornet]

are you 232 at least?

[noble zinc]

Yea that inv doin 11+ rn yod be hitting 10min

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't she get hard locked out of white orbs after 2rot

[sly geyser]

222 bro

[noble zinc]

111 gang

[carmine reef]

yes

[sly geyser]

broke af

[buoyant hornet]

Oh ripge

[carmine reef]

she unironically pings ALL white orbs

it's like luna finality

0 solo potential

[sonic tide]

Ur ice can't save u?

[buoyant hornet]

They said enough solo ice units for 2 years

[carmine reef]

i mean why would you need to solo, wanshi is free

[cunning hound]

zexous? or mambo

[sly geyser]

me still doesn't have teddy

[buoyant hornet]

If only getting enough dorm coins for him as a newbie without sync wasn't hellish

[cunning hound]

actually either would be cool cause both of them jumped ship a while back

[buoyant hornet]

[sonic tide]

Cooked

[carmine reef]

i guarantee even a homeless wanshi swap will do more damage than basic attacking on teddy enough for 3x3p

[blazing sorrel]

So when I've asked about who to run in WZ I was told to throw away Shukra not because Teddy can solo, but to rotate with sigless LD instead? Cool...

[cunning hound]

feyer i forgot how to pyroath

[carmine reef]

were you not rotating with wanshi already

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah you're forced to rotate, and wanshi being sigless will def cause a dip in his personal dmg + score but he'll be the same rot as with sig

[blazing sorrel]

Pre-Teddy - not really, only once every 3-4 Shukra rotations

[carmine reef]

...

[blazing sorrel]

So basically just test which is a lower points drop? OK, thanks,

[buoyant hornet]

#freestyle

[graceful summit]

[blazing sorrel]

Damn typos

[slate gull]

[buoyant hornet]

Teddy literally cannot solo lol you don't really have much to test here

[sly geyser]

my last resort

[buoyant hornet]

Damn wata not even ss3?

[sly geyser]

me not whel like the acc ur piloting

damn

why did i have to fall with u

[blazing sorrel]

I mean test whether sigless LD with Kaleido will do more damage than keeping Shukra instead of Kaleido (for more her personal damage).

[cunning hound]

[sly geyser]

[sonic tide]

[buoyant hornet]

Even my f2p acc has 232

[buoyant hornet]

Trust me kaleido will not even come close LOL

Those 2 are on completely different leagues

Even sss kaleido won't outdps base s wanshi

[slate gull]

use ploom trust

[sly geyser]

k whel

[nova forum]

hai need guide for 232.3 rayd

[noble zinc]

Wtf bonca qte miss

[nova forum]

should i do multi pull on fate arrival

at 35 rn

[slate gull]

yes

[nova forum]

u being fr?

[slate gull]

fate arrival best banner everrrr

[spiral merlin]

Bianca qte miss and Daren qte miss

Wanshi qte miss Selena qte miss

Even fk Nanami qte miss

[graceful summit]

Why 3s nana but 2.3 teddy

[nova forum]

cuz sss teddy is next month

[sly geyser]

zex was right

or i'm shite idk

[sonic tide]

What in mob's zone? Sometimes

[slate gull]

dont worry guys you can spam qte next patch

hopefully it wont miss

[sly geyser]

fk kuso

[sonic tide]

Yeah just sss it right

[spiral merlin]

Create new problems and sell the solution

[robust dust]

so teddy starter blue rot is better than red right?

[graceful summit]

Generally yeah

[robust dust]

to get the sig passive

[sonic tide]

Bro i thought warzone and ppc is all bout qte timing for good breakpoints, they basically destroy everything for tht shet qte spam

[robust dust]

or red doesn't work to get it

[graceful summit]

Wait what sig passive

[robust dust]

her sig weap

[sly geyser]

*sigh* let's wrap this shite up

[carmine reef]

tbf qte timing for breakpoints is already a skill that 75% vanished on qu patch

[nova forum]

[sonic tide]

So they proceed to make it 100% nice

[carmine reef]

there's like almost no point to qte variation nowadays, it's rather just rotational changes now

[sonic tide]

Yeah u need to 3 stack ult for her bfr swap in order her sign passive active

So 1+3

[carmine reef]

only qte nukes matter for timing

which is fun and i'm glad they exist

[sonic tide]

I mean glaciation too

Try to mess it up

[noble zinc]

Wtf daren 222 3times

[carmine reef]

not rly

[noble zinc]

Last hr bald let me

[carmine reef]

you can fit glacio rot even without the extension

it's nice for if you have to stall in order to let waves spawn though

but it's not mandatory for the rotation to be viable

[robust dust]

alright

[sonic tide]

Wym by this?

[carmine reef]

orbs

as in no 3p

[sonic tide]

Even with dlt she still like tht?

[carmine reef]

remembering the daren ion days

god that was awful

[slate gull]

where my red orb

[blazing sorrel]

Ofc she won't. As I said it was about SS3 no sig (both) LD+Teddy with S sigless Kaleido vs with SS6R2 Shukra. And the score with Teddy/LD/Shukra is about 12.5% higher (did 3 runs with each, picked highest). So if I'd had LD sig+cub - I can see how Teddy/LD/Kaleido would outdamage Shukra. But my investment level is just not there.

For LD used that triple ult rotation I was shown here previously, for Shukra 1 short 2 long.

Either way I'm having fun with Teddy, I was missing timing-based combos since Feral release

[nova forum]

oh w8

[slate gull]

did you just not want to get LD sig? without sig his damage is dogwater indeed

[nova forum]

since when does cr and norman have different week schedule

[graceful summit]

Since the week this patch start

[radiant panther]

What's with this last minute wz runs lol 🤣

[graceful summit]

It gets adjusted then iirc

[radiant panther]

so thats why they getting wonky

[blazing sorrel]

At the time Shukra was soloing all PPC bosses because you can get 4 rotations out of her with DLT. Then I was short on PPC skulls (bew player problems), so LD was kept at like S or smth. By the time it was getting tight - I was saving for SSS Lilith already. And now I'm just reluctant to get his sig due to how old he is and can be replaced at any moment

[icy otter]

Pc but

But touchscreen

Kb hard

[blazing sorrel]

Although, probablt Shukra will go first at this rate

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[graceful summit]

Shukra already gone

[slate gull]

if you're going to use Qu, then maybe better to do this: after your teddy rotation, do Qu 1 fast ult + 1 strong ult, do wanshi 1 ult, and go back to teddy

[blazing sorrel]

No, I've tried. PC version ignores touch. Drawing tablet can help tho, I've got a small used one for like $12.

[blazing sorrel]

Interesting, will try, thanks.

[slate gull]

i guess you started pretty late. this is what skipping meta units and their sig means. you are experiencing brick moments

[icy otter]

It does not

I have played

With touch

On laptop

It's a mobile game you think they rebuilt it for pc

😂

[blazing sorrel]

I've tried on both a tablet (Chuwi Hi10 Go) and a 2-in-1 laptop (Chuwi Minibook X). Didn;t work on both. Win11. But that was around a year ago

[radiant panther]

keyboard hard?? its easy tho, phone is hard for me(its always below 30fps so thats why its hard, even I struggled vera 2 rot in ppc lol)

[icy otter]

It's worked since november of 2024

But I guess device diff

[blazing sorrel]

IMO harder than touch due to how 1st orb can be either regular or special

[blazing sorrel]

What were you using btw?

[radiant panther]

Nihil was a pain using on phone especially a pre-leaped Luna, shi so many dodge cancels

[icy otter]

I'm not used to number keys for orbs

Especially on an orb sensitive chr like qu where I have to fish for that single orb sometimes

[icy otter]

It was a dell 2 in 1 laptop

[radiant panther]

I also play fps and in wotb where my shells are in the numbers 1, 2 and 3, so I kinda associate it to orb skills

[icy otter]

I mean gen 3's are nice in that theyre not used to orb rng

White orbs help

But playing a gen 2 and having to go to say

6

[blazing sorrel]

Honestly idk what SoC will even run this game at 30. I've tried Snapdragons 765G, 835, 845, 8+ gen 1 - all were running at 60+, even if there were small dips to 50 here and there. Even PC version on integrated Intel GPU did run at 60.

[radiant panther]

Im just happy I did not play pgr in january 2025 lol

[icy otter]

Something that isn't all SD

[blazing sorrel]

My sis tried on her Helio G99 - also ran just fine

[icy otter]

Any midrange dimensity or exynos will struggle

[radiant panther]

have you tried playing in Unisoc T612 SoC in 4/64GB configuration? yeah its pain

[slate gull]

pgr sync started here

[graceful summit]

Meanwhile me with sd665 running on hopes and prayer

[icy otter]

Yes it was luna patch

Damn bro

It been a year

[blazing sorrel]

Ah, Unisoc does sound rough. Not 4/64 tho, my 835 had 4/32 I think (Xperia XZ1 Compact)

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[graceful summit]

Yeah

Idt you can even game on that

[noble zinc]

Done

[slate gull]

now we're back to normal patches kek

[radiant panther]

Im envious on my brother who got a second hand samsung s23 ultra for cheap, dawg can play so many good games

[noble zinc]

Paking every bij got knock

[icy otter]

Watapak

Fraud

Not top1

[slate gull]

ban the pilots

[icy otter]

Lao so dalao but only got 20m on my acc

[radiant panther]

Aight imma head out now, the dalaos are talking

[sonic tide]

Whel

[icy otter]

It's true

I should leave too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072740014640865280.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PeepoLeave

[sonic tide]

Me too

[slate gull]

goodnight guys

[blazing sorrel]

I've at one point just bought a tablet. Got tired of playing around small memory and small screens. New gen 3 Lenovo Y700 with Snap 8 gen 3 can be bought for like $280 where I live. And overall it's surprisingly rough to get a good SoC in budget new models these days, easier to buy something old second hand

[buoyant hornet]

You're probably just better off using lilith with 4dv 4guinivere as the 3rd member

[blazing sorrel]

BTW why 4guin vs 2guin 2gloria?

oe what was that 5* set with similar effect

[graceful summit]

Sam?

Cuz, 4 guin better buff

[buoyant hornet]

Gloria won't apply consistently and is way worse than eins, if the zone is tanky you can use eins but not gloria (assuming wanshi isn't already carrying eins)\

[night locust]

What button refills wanshi’s bullets?

[graceful summit]

Wdym exactly?

[blazing sorrel]

evasion into blue circle

[night locust]

Reload chamber

[graceful summit]

Like when doing his tap red repeatedly for bullet ult/hold basic for drone ult right
If you just continue to tap red/hold ba it should reload automatically

Tho there's a limit on how many you can reload per sequence

[night locust]

Okay online says tap dodge then red

However that only refills 3. So I have to do it twice?

[night locust]

So twice?

[graceful summit]

That's to do it manually

[fluid gulch]

Press red orb to do it automatically

and it refills all 6 bullets

[graceful summit]

You don't need to do that when doing tap red/hold basic attack sequence

Like at wanshi ss0, when swapping in he get 6 rounds in the chamber

If using the automatic reload correctly no need to manually dodge>red

-# exception for solo wanshi ofc, he won't have enough bullet no matter what without doing dodge>red

[night locust]

So like this?

[carmine reef]

there is some crazy misinfo flying out right now

[night locust]

That 3 secs I stood there after ult 1 was bc I kept tapping red and it didn’t do anything

until it finally reload. Idk why it took so long

[carmine reef]

solo wanshi doesn't use manual reload either

[carmine reef]

blue does not do anything for reloads

[blazing sorrel]

Blue circle. On the ground. Not blue orb.

[graceful summit]

Which solo variation
The one I'm talking about is the 30 stack drone ult
Unless doing 24 stack ofc no need

[blazing sorrel]

Which happens on tap red with empty chamber iirc

[carmine reef]

you don't need it for 30 either bro

[graceful summit]

[carmine reef]

wanshi solo is doing 3rd circuit of hold ba

you just hold ba again after the 2nd reload and it starts the first part again

[graceful summit]

[carmine reef]

manual reload is not used, ever, in any scenario

[graceful summit]

Well then

Mb

Don't know that tech

I shall see myself out

[steady otter]

You guys still solo after teddy came ?

[carmine reef]

[night locust]

So my video was correct then?

[carmine reef]

i didn't watch the video but if you used manual reload at all then it's wrong

[night locust]

No I did the tap red method

[noble zinc]

@limber yoke 1min left done

[graceful summit]

But you did manual reload
Manual reload is dodge>red

[night locust]

I didn’t tap dodge

[graceful summit]

You don't need to if done properly

[night locust]

Tap dodge then red gives 3. Tap red alone gives 6

[carmine reef]

you used manual reload

0:27

[night locust]

I’m confused

[carmine reef]

also this isn't how you should be playing at all anyway

[night locust]

Omg

I did tap dodge

[carmine reef]

like, even for solo wanshi this is wrong, but somewhat close
but for swap you are like way off the mark

[night locust]

What did I do wrong?

[noble zinc]

Delulu zone

[carmine reef]

i mean you spent 20 seconds on field to do 2 ults

[noble zinc]

Better gather need

That cub skill is near useless

[sonic tide]

8.5m entropy, plasma?

[carmine reef]

normally first swap is just ult1 12 bullet
then after that you do either 2 rot (ult2>30 2 parts, ult1>12), or 3 rot (ult1>18, ult2>30 1 part, ult1>12)

using 3 circuits of hold ba like you did is, as i mentioned earlier, a tech only used for solo wanshi, and you didn't do that right anyway

[dawn cloak]

Wtf, did you succed btw?

[noble zinc]

If did full run 4+ min

Out of reset

Then run finish

[carmine reef]

that first swap should be done in like 6 seconds, and then subsequent swaps is either 2 or 3 ults in 12 seconds

[sonic tide]

No chill

[sly geyser]

cooked

me too broke for teddy

[sonic tide]

Brain locked

[sly geyser]

and how tf dark w32 but only 4m

[dawn cloak]

RIP
Next week we all get Teddy

[sly geyser]

jesus

[dawn cloak]

Cuz dark mobs

Shiet score

[noble zinc]

Mine but sss

[sly geyser]

[dawn cloak]

🐳

[sonic tide]

Pak whel

[noble zinc]

~~Santa vero skin now need ~~

[foggy vessel]

which is better to take here (BP shard) I have all of them

[tacit tiger]

Link hauxu

[dawn cloak]

Paking whel 🐳

[stray siren]

Luna or Alisa if your Vero is not SSS

Watanabe will probably be replaced soon

Oh, u don't have Vero, so Alisa to SS3 at least

[foggy vessel]

yes

[stray siren]

Then SSS Luna

[tacit tiger]

[foggy vessel]

I heard I should skip Vero if not for ultima slash team but now it feels like I should

[carmine reef]

vero isn't necessary for slash, alisa works fine there too

it's for ignition that you would be missing out by skipping vero

[foggy vessel]

my Ignition team is so far from being go...

[carmine reef]

i mean

really all you need for ignition team is nanami

[dawn cloak]

Vero so scam ngl

[tacit tiger]

But the ignition buffs from veronica

[foggy vessel]

ok ok

[carmine reef]

they're fine

[foggy vessel]

so Alisa

[carmine reef]

but solo nanami still scores like 7m ignition lol

[peak halo]

technincly nanaknight enought for igni
with vero just extra

[foggy vessel]

and in this shity selector 6* weapon that is in my bag for 4 month ? I just pick a random and destroy her for the shard ?

[stray siren]

Bow for Alisa

[carmine reef]

you can put tonitris on alisa if you don't have alisa sig

[stray siren]

Or use the weapon for resonance

[foggy vessel]

oh yes you're right

yes thx both

[peak halo]

but igni team comp is like
who which better invest get on the team

[carmine reef]

the sig effect won't help her at all, but it's just useful so that alisa can unlock harmo

alisa not a real unit without harmo

[tacit tiger]

Or just use 2 uncs and veronica for ignition

[nova forum]

no nanami?

[foggy vessel]

and what about her sig is it necessary ?

[carmine reef]

not at this stage in the game no

not worth going for now

[foggy vessel]

ok ^^

[peak halo]

if nanami ss0 but wata sss0 then no nanami if dante theres

[carmine reef]

it would be nice to have if you have the funds to spare but

i assume you don't

[tacit tiger]

Theres a reason why someone got 9m on 2 uncs and veronica in wz

[nova forum]

whel invest

[carmine reef]

wata only kicks nanami out if low nana AND sss dante i believe

[foggy vessel]

I take all the BP + monthly A + all the "worth pack"

[stray siren]

If you ever have extra BC, you can get it. Veronica came to replace her and failed. So technically Alisa will be alive for another year at least

[carmine reef]

[tacit tiger]

watanabe is voucherable

[carmine reef]

well, if you somehow end up with so much excess bc that you want to pull alisa sig, it is +10% to her buffs

[foggy vessel]

I have 30k BC

[carmine reef]

dante isn't

oh it's mr troll

[nova forum]

90x 802 voucher 🐳

[carmine reef]

didn't even need to bother responding

[foggy vessel]

should I go for Wanshi weapon to btw ?

[stray siren]

Yes

[carmine reef]

if you just ask "should i get sig" without any context the answer would ofc be yes

the problem is budgeting for how many you can afford to get

i think wanshi sig is somewhat less prio now with teddy

since teddy can hold her own 4cjy

[foggy vessel]

I said how much I have on me and how much I spend so it is not "whithout any context"

[carmine reef]

it is without any context because i don't know how many other sigs you are missing

that sig can cost potentially 15k bc

you could potentially blow all of that bc on 2 sigs, and i don't know how many you are missing

[spiral merlin]

should i get crimson weave sig

[carmine reef]

i would never call alisa or wanshi the 2 highest prio to get if you could only get 2

[stray siren]

Yes

[spiral merlin]

thank you meta help user for helping me to the meta

[tacit tiger]

Scrap it or use it as a usb

[foggy vessel]

I have all others sig except Epitaph, Wanshi, Alisa and all other char that are S in my screen (not Feral)

[tacit tiger]

I can't rid of my R2 cw sig because......

[spiral merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1438404737287454772/GIF-251112_234609.gif

way ahead of u

[carmine reef]

then you could probably go for wanshi sig

i still wouldn't bother with alisa

[tacit tiger]

Wanshi have a little higher damage than Qu

[carmine reef]

wata probably not needed, would rather save for future units

[foggy vessel]

ok thx !

[carmine reef]

especially as kusogame is making ss3 more and more mandatory

[stray siren]

Kamui new fire breaker replacing lulu

[nova forum]

bruh

[tacit tiger]

You get 1 S rank guarantee character for every patch tho

[foggy vessel]

Oh and last thing

about weapon harmony

I didn't concerned to much about it since now

except for Liv that has her

oh mb Geiravor and Bianca to

what is the priority based on my box ? Is it based on how powerfull they are or there is character with higher priority ?

[carmine reef]

have you been doing clash reflection

[dawn cloak]

Harmony or resonance?

[foggy vessel]

yes I've started

[carmine reef]

only just started? so you don't have that many harmony mats? oofge

[light basin]

For Liv is it atk +15 and sig for both builds? Lightning and darkflow

[foggy vessel]

harmony (for resonance I follow gray ravens guide for each char based on their power)

[carmine reef]

the priority will be for units that need to hold 4pc ele sets

[dawn cloak]

Not sig, its core unless at SSS

[foggy vessel]

I have 120 rn

[carmine reef]

that's enough for 4 i think

mmm

[dawn cloak]

Oh so the red can/bottle?
Can also do the spill set of clash reflection

It contains old bosses, give red can too

[carmine reef]

ish, nanami, teddy, lilith

i think those 4 you should do first

[foggy vessel]

oh rly ?

[carmine reef]

based on what i see in your ss

[foggy vessel]

thank you !

[dawn cloak]

Yes. Same practice as outlier on ppc
Old bosses to farm some of the reward

[foggy vessel]

ok thx for the advice !

[light basin]

Oh right ty

[last blade]

is teddy's free only s0?

without vouchers

[stray siren]

Yeah S0 only

[leaden meadow]

have a bunch of ore from norman, is there a priority list of cubs to buy shards for?

and is wanshi signature needed for glaciation team?

[dawn cloak]

Add ppc skull and it become SS0 as usual

[dawn cloak]

Better use the scrap cub method
Use ore to buy 2 cub dupes, then scrap it to get entirely new cub
Three potential SS cub can be traded for 2 new cub

Unless youre a regular spender/buying cub BP, most new unit with S sig cub is better than only one or two with SS cub

The benefit of SS cub is 5% extra dmg bonus

[dawn cloak]

Signature what? Weapon? Always needed
It doesnt mean he cant function but lower score ofc

[leaden meadow]

o wow didnt think about scrapping, there are few cubs i havent gotten yet. good to know thank you.

[leaden meadow]

ya was trying to get 615K ppc score but its hard and wondering if i needed wanshi weapon to get it, just have sss wanshi with 5* weapon

[dawn cloak]

Oh yea at that score ofc
Not saying its impossible if got higher rank Selena, but certainly far easier

[dawn cloak]

Just make sure you actually buy a good notable cub. Not someone like Veronica's cub

You can even buy Liv cub with that method
Even tho her supposed to be limited time

[leaden meadow]

i think i have all the main dps cubs, would vera geiravor cub be good choice?

[carmine reef]

if you don't have vera cub then you don't have all the main dps cubs

[leaden meadow]

still confuses me if pyro oath or geiravor is the dps for fire team lol

do like playing vera more tho

[carmine reef]

it's vera unless you have a situation like sss lucia vs ss0 vera

[leaden meadow]

that shings are music to my ears heh

[dawn cloak]

iirc, most impactful cub was
Wanshi, Nanami, Selena, Ishmael (tho Ishmael case shes only used as dps on nihil)
Then Bianca Liv are impactful too

Vera also good but its after those above imo, her cub buffs her ult 1 only, its nice on helping breakpoints killing enemy with her ult1, but take notes her biggest dmg is on her ult2

[leaden meadow]

thanks so much for the list Randall!

[noble zinc]

@spiral merlin zone zone zone

[spiral merlin]

Don't have yet

I get my info from kimika lol since I don't have jp or tw acc

Should be 30 mins till reset

[noble zinc]

yes

[spiral merlin]

Prayge for df or lightning or phys boss

You know what I'll even take glacio

[noble zinc]

ice mob need

or glacio

or dark again

better not be

[stray siren]

29 min

[simple dew]

why call me out like that

[carmine reef]

[keen meteor]

Surely honse patch has a selector

[spiral merlin]

Clueless~1

you think after 4 back to back s ranks only one of which being free, theyd be kind enough to give selector

[carmine reef]

imagine it still only goes up to qu

[spiral merlin]

works for me

selector is just +10 overflow anyways

[carmine reef]

i don't want to hear any input on selectors from fk whels

[spiral merlin]

ur gonna hear it regardless SelenaSmile

[carmine reef]

not if i block all of you

[spiral merlin]

chop off one head and two more take its place

pee

[carmine reef]

kusogame infinite money hack

[noble zinc]

[chilly trail]

Wz
Lightning boss
Nihil mobs
Fire/DF mobs

[carmine reef]

can we go back to when they actually removed mob wz

[chilly trail]

Kuro knew score inflation so they spam mobs

[spiral merlin]

wz rework next patch surely

[chilly trail]

[noble zinc]

ta pak mob dpuble

what weatherrs

[stray siren]

Baby shark and Siren again on wave 4-8-12-16..

[spiral merlin]

pee

[keen meteor]

Yeah because my kuso generous
Selector up to ish fr

[carmine reef]

we still have vassago right now so like

[keen meteor]

Except score is even more inflated now cs of their wz rework in hero

Watch DF hero go insane this week

[stray siren]

And duos: Vassagoat + alpha instead of two bears

[carmine reef]

do you need help

like, should i recommend a therapist for you?

[stray siren]

Gen 3 and Gen 4 need a wz of their level

[keen meteor]

Gen EoS when

[chilly trail]

Light nanami(?)
Nihil Ish
Fire vera

[wintry shell]

Had teddy’s set been finalized?

[stray siren]

4 Joanna 4 Chen ATK15 top/ult bottom

[wintry shell]

And raydiance it’s guin da Vinci right?

[stray siren]

Yeah

[wintry shell]

What about Bianca

[stray siren]

Class bottom

[stray siren]

That idk

Some Raydiance malder Help pls

[wind hemlock]

I only know SS0, which is 4 Jeanne 2 Cottie 2 Wilde

[wintry shell]

Ok

[golden merlin]

99% of bonka’s dmg is her ult

[keen meteor]

Ss0 is sig/cottie/wilde
Ss3 and above is sig/darwin/wilde

[golden merlin]

^

[carmine reef]

that's not what queso was unsure about, nor is this even correct

[golden merlin]

My bad

[carmine reef]

blue is a very significant portion of her dmg

there's a reason ss3 goes blue reso

[golden merlin]

So blue + ult

[noble zinc]

@normal sierra shisho gib tips plz how to get speed hax

[normal sierra]

is dat sss vera?
did you try delaying 4pc dv effect so your ult2 gets it?
and where is your empy?

[noble zinc]

No I literally mean just input speed speed idc abt cap runs rn

Also empy sig owner trashed

Yeah sss vera

Not delaying qte am just slow can't press them properly

Like key combinations

What's better or not wata having problems while doing blaze

Doing qtes

[normal sierra]

pretty sure you could kill with ult2 if you delay dv effect for ult2

[noble zinc]

[keen meteor]

Have to tried going faster?

[normal sierra]

also, if you don't do ult on wata before swap, you can actually start on lilick > do vera things > swap to wata if doesn't kill and insta ult if that tiny dmg would help at the end there

[keen meteor]

Why is the vid just a black screen for me

Dc tweaking out

[normal sierra]

ohh if you wanted some pc keybinds, everyone who saw my keybinds think I'm a psycho, so that prolly won't help much for you

you will have to find what works for you, it's different for everyone

[keen meteor]

What did u do bro

[normal sierra]

orbs: 1234 EQ MB4 MB5 qte: scroll up/down cub: R ult: F dodge: space target: tab basic: LMB rapid: RMB

[noble zinc]

Finally understood

[noble zinc]

what qte scroll up down?

[normal sierra]

indeed, das why me labeled a psycho

[noble zinc]

It's just scrolling up works?

[stray siren]

Because it's actually a video on a black screen, everyone else is under a social hallucination, watching a redhead fighting a giant scorpion

You escaped from the Mattix

Run

[normal sierra]

it only works if you can set the scroll up/down functions on your mouse, or with a 3rd party that can redirect those functions
can't set them in the game itself

[noble zinc]

Logitech g102 works?

[summer topaz]

dunno how you do dodge and do orb inputs on the same hand

i have dodge bind to the extra mouse buttons

[normal sierra]

dunno, I don't know all mouse models and what their driver supports

[noble zinc]

[normal sierra]

but you can use "X- Mouse button control" to redirect any keys/functions on your mouse if it's not a built-in feature on your mouse

[noble zinc]

Hax binds

[limber yoke]

Psycho

My keybinds is best

[normal sierra]

with all these new gen chars, we barely ever use orb 345678
99% is only 1 or 2, and the other 1 is when you want to ping that last or 2nd last orb instead
dodge was never an issue for me

[limber yoke]

Use mouse ping

Its one of the best

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004156305314947222.png?quality=lossless&name=worrybj&size=48

[normal sierra]

real psycho behaviour, mouse pingers

[summer topaz]

things like dodge cancels my right hand is spamming dodge in between orb pings with the left dunno maybe its just muscle memory i cant shake off from older gen units

[normal sierra]

ye, that's why it's different for everyone
just gotta find the best for you and stick to it

[limber yoke]

Dodge = shift
Ult = space
Cub = F
Qte = E and Q
Basic attack = leftalt
Starting from Right most orbto ping = V C X

Orbs = mouse

[true pivot]

what in the christ

[summer topaz]

i use to mouse ping but these days with how fast and precise the inputs needed i stopped doin that

[noble zinc]

Q/e def not it me delulu with those

Extra mouse buttons feeling better but those seems not that durable

[limber yoke]

Trust

Ull understand why

[noble zinc]

orb pings not problem these qte's only giving problems

[spiral merlin]

extra mouse buttons are game changing

[noble zinc]

problem mine this cheap one will break within a month taking how much I play scroll bar need to see smthing tomorrow

[normal sierra]

the most fingerbreaking kill for me right now is luna > ish both full fast rota
dat carp made me question why I do this to me poor fingers

[final fog]

What about ppc?

Also fk mob wz

[hoary dagger]

Skych mado ephialtes

[normal sierra]

dat lloyd ruined a perfectly slacc week

[keen meteor]

Okay what in da helly is dat

[keen meteor]

[final fog]

How come mado still not retired?

[keen meteor]

QTE - E and Q
Ult - R
Orbs - 1234vcxz
Lmb - BA
rmb - dodge
Left ctrl - Cub

EZ peasy

[keen meteor]

Naurrrrr

[limber yoke]

Its da best

Rydle uses it too

Smh

[keen meteor]

It feels very weird

Dazzal tried to get me on that ship but nah

[tacit tiger]

Its either I get Wanshi cub or Vera cub.. Which one....

[golden merlin]

Wanshi

-# im not biased trust

[keen meteor]

Do u have teddy

And what does ur fire team lookin like

[tacit tiger]

I have invest both of them and I'm missing just a wanshi cub and Vera cub in that teams

[keen meteor]

Prolly get vera then cs vera does the dmg in fire but teddy is the carry in ice now

[limber yoke]

U just have to think ur playing like fps game

[tacit tiger]

Both of them have invested to ss3 in all of units

[keen meteor]

Not enough mouse movement cs I do play fps sometimes and this feels weird

[keen meteor]

Get bera and use seashell or whatever that is on wanshi for now

[golden merlin]

I use defualt pc keybinds
No mouse
Im cooked

[tacit tiger]

I have turned my seashell to scrap since I ss Lingya alr

[normal sierra]

we found the most psycho among us

[keen meteor]

Its okay use whatever then

[golden merlin]

Actually idk if I changed it or not

QTE - Q and E
Basic - J
Dodge - K
Ult - L
Orbs - 12345678
Cub - C

[normal sierra]

[tacit tiger]

I think wanshi cub is needed for him since Vera's cub only increase the damage for the first ult and wanshi is just a better increase of dmg to ult more and make the ult deals the same damage

[spiral merlin]

Ult L is actually diabolical

[keen meteor]

I already gave u the reasoning

[visual wind]

What to build for gadiant bianca

4 sig 4 heisen or cottie?

[keen meteor]

No use explaining if you have ur mind made up already

[fresh plover]

Man im so glad this mode's meta doesn't actually matter

This score absolutely could still be way higher, i wasn't properly optimising

[keen meteor]

I afk both side zones

[golden merlin]

J-K-L
Basic dodge ult

[fresh plover]

I still try but on those im worse than my guild mates

[keen meteor]

If u dont care it dont matter

[spiral merlin]

Diabolical

[golden merlin]

How

[spiral merlin]

Wdym how

[golden merlin]

It’s perfectly normal

What would be better

[spiral merlin]

Perfectly normal among fellow psychopaths sure

[keen meteor]

Bro is that hi3 default layout

[golden merlin]

What should i change it to

[keen meteor]

[golden merlin]

Rly?
Never played before

[spiral merlin]

There's no correct control layout

But there are wrong ones

[golden merlin]

I genuinely want better keybinds but im too stupid to figure out what i should change it to
Send help

I dont have a mouse

[keen meteor]

Yeah u can play hi3 without a mouse

Step 1
Get a mouse
Come back for step 2

[spiral merlin]

I don't play kbm so idk but id keep all blinds close to left hand

Mouse can be super handy

[golden merlin]

I meant for pgr
I need keybinds

[simple dew]

i just use the default ones

jkl

[keen meteor]

Yeah get a mouse first

[spiral merlin]

Some of you need to be Dealt With

[golden merlin]

Me too but everyone says its very bad

[simple dew]

[spiral merlin]

[golden merlin]

What do i use mouse for?

[keen meteor]

Or u could use my layout and put the ba and dodge somewhere on keyboard

[crystal rune]

Left shift and capslock

[simple dew]

left alt right alt

[keen meteor]

I use it for camera, basic atk and dodge

[crystal rune]

That’s what I do tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362645356432855243.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtMod

[simple dew]

unbind movement and use asd

[golden merlin]

I dont have any camera control
Actually i can use my trackpad but like…

[keen meteor]

@golden merlin i use this
If u wanna try
Put BA and Dodge somewhere on the keyboard

Just use the default camera mode

With newer character u rarely use all orbs now

[golden merlin]

I think i use default yea

[visual wind]

No one answer me

[golden merlin]

Left shift and space?

[golden merlin]

Depends on rank
Ss3 4 jeanne 2 darwin 2 wilde

[keen meteor]

Tf u mean left shift what are u saving ur right hand for?

[crystal rune]

Jork

[visual wind]

How about 3s

[keen meteor]

Bro fr

[golden merlin]

Oh im dumb
Im used to right hand does jkl

[golden merlin]

Idk im not that much whel

[visual wind]

🥺

[keen meteor]

Just keep J K as Ba and dodge and try to get used to it

[golden merlin]

Oki ill try

[keen meteor]

Good luxk

[golden merlin]

Ill need it

[carmine roost]

Same as ss3

SS3 rank and above is the same for Gaydiance

[golden merlin]

[pine slate]

Orb ping ofc

[simple dew]

wait just use mouse to play

click everything manually

[golden merlin]

Lmb ba
Rmb ult
Middle click dodge

Move mouse —> joystick

For movement

M4 cub
M5 click on orb manually

[fierce sierra]

I don't wanna bring another game to this, but I think having it similar to Genshin wouldn't be bad

Like Lmb for ba, Rmb for dash and q for ult

Dunno about the other keybinds tho

[ivory patrol]

Is there any point building Selena pianissimo if I only have alya and her

[plain oyster]

Even if u dont have han, she's still in glacio which her teammates is free so why not?

[golden merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/no21-21-pgr-chaos-unsnarled-gif-10759477207559316596

[plain oyster]

[ivory patrol]

Ohhhhh yeahhhhhhh, totally forgot about the glacio team, is it any good

[plain oyster]

Yeh, its good.

[fierce sierra]

I infact am, but I wanted to return to pgr for Liv :3

[plain oyster]

Oh liv

[ivory patrol]

Just realized I pulled the new liv and never built her lmao

W memory

[fierce sierra]

As in Liv limpidity?

[plain oyster]

4 heisen 4 cottie any atk/core passive

Might want to build her first tbh

Both light and df in wz rn

[fierce sierra]

Limpidity is kind of the reason I wanna return to the game, Liv has been my fav ever since I started playing

[plain oyster]

And u cant pull her until phylotree rerun

[fierce sierra]

That's okay, I mean I still haven't gotten the Liv before that

I'm kind of just building Liv army

[plain oyster]

[fierce sierra]

I'm not sure how effective is it, but yeah I didn't really use other characters much before that😅

[plain oyster]

It wont be effective

[fierce sierra]

Im currently just trying to get my account back

[keen meteor]

Genshin player in my pgr only server

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362839506922766587.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtFlop

[plain oyster]

[fierce sierra]

Don't worry, I didnt come here to wreak havoc

[plain oyster]

[lunar dove]

What's the recommended Memories (and weapon harmony memory) for Nanami: Starfarer?

[plain oyster]

Nanamech

[simple dew]

6pc hololive

[crystal rune]

6pc dv

[lunar dove]

Yeah I want to do Nanamech, just to be safe, before working on Nanami: Startrail

[simple dew]

what

[lunar dove]

I don't have Startrail yet

[crystal rune]

Building Nanamech is the least safe thing you could do

[simple dew]

building one of the worst things in thid game

[lunar dove]

ah

[carmine roost]

Let's not forget how scarce resources are in 1x patch

[lunar dove]

True

[crystal rune]

I’m already down 40k coins and still havent recovered

[rotund fox]

You can evolve Nanamech to Nanaknight yk

[carmine roost]

Paper misinfo again

Mods

Ban him to the Shadow realm

[lunar dove]

Yeah... Not falling for that

[simple dew]

how am i gonna build my a ranks now

[golden merlin]

I am unable to ever forget

[simple dew]

yes we know

[golden merlin]

Mine are already built

[simple dew]

you spent thousands of serum on a rank sharda

[true pivot]

i cant wait to upgrade my rosetta rigor to rosetta arete

[golden merlin]

Just 15k when i started

[simple dew]

i cant wait till my changyu evolves

[golden merlin]

I stopped
And even had another x3 patch after that
And im still broke

[rotund fox]

Rosetta: Rigid to Rosetta: Erect

[lunar dove]

Well I was able to at least Hypertune Teddy, Alisa and Wata and got Deathless Flame all in 2 days

[true pivot]

rosetta: hard

[plain oyster]

[simple dew]

[true pivot]

rosetta: stiff

stop spam

[rotund fox]

I HAVE THE AUTHORITY

[golden merlin]

Saved

[simple dew]

ok run before mod eat

[golden merlin]

[simple dew]

who do i pull for on uniframe banner

[golden merlin]

Delete the quote messages

You can delete quote messages you create

[simple dew]

surely noone checks logs

[plain oyster]

Sele to s+

[simple dew]

can i pick qu paco

[carmine roost]

Pull my heart instead

[rotund fox]

Ronald

[trim island]

Jump to original message

[simple dew]

i can pull you

[plain oyster]

No

[rotund fox]

Yoshilao gae

[carmine roost]

Rolando goated

[crystal rune]

Ronaldo

[simple dew]

trump?

[plain oyster]

Quotes

[rotund fox]

Oh no mods here

[true pivot]

i cant wait for rosetta and veronica to pull out their massive spears for hanying

[rotund fox]

skedaddle now

[true pivot]

[rotund fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1456305008256614440.png

[simple dew]

[golden merlin]

Where
How you know

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362645356432855243.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtMod

[rotund fox]

why is YommyTheMommy so horni today

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

Mods online?

Paper is misinfoing mods, get his ass

[golden merlin]

I deleted the quote myself

[true pivot]

crazy how people now associate me with the other yomm

😭

[carmine roost]

We need mods to jump paper

[simple dew]

what yomm

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1076108295170953217.png?quality=lossless&name=EOS&size=48

[simple dew]

who yomn

[true pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1412100393282044035.gif?size=160

[crystal rune]

Why yonn

[golden merlin]

[crystal rune]

@wanton hatch are you leg this week

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1229456641410203730.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtHappy

[carmine roost]

He got sniped

[crystal rune]

Lf bracket buddy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=kyarusmh

[true pivot]

this week wz is crazy

how am i gonna do df

ive never done it before

[plain oyster]

You sniped him

[true pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1419622769758441533.png?size=160

time to kiwi pgr and start making animations

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1434543670299988039.png?size=160

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

YommTheMommy is gonna beat vicineko animation fr fr

[plain oyster]

Kiwi and focus on animating huh

[carmine roost]

Better passion

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

[true pivot]

be sure to subscribe to my 2nd channel guys

[golden merlin]

[carmine roost]

join my Patreon so you don't miss early sketch, my other arts and spices

[plain oyster]

[crystal rune]

I watched to whole 28 minutes vicineko animation

[golden merlin]

[true pivot]

be sure to get new updates from the fanbox and onlyomm

[simple dew]

do you have "other" things

[carmine roost]

So did you get enlightened?

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

[crystal rune]

No not really

[golden merlin]

[carmine roost]

Damn

[rotund fox]

Yoshilao makes beewbs

[carmine roost]

I thought PNC is gonna be strong with this one

[simple dew]

here comes my long goodbye

im going eep

[golden merlin]

[true pivot]

no such thing as pnc, only the will to keep going

[wanton hatch]

I did?

lemme check

[golden merlin]

[rotund fox]

Why is Wanshi plooming that guy?

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362645356432855243.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtMod

[true pivot]

omg he's plooming

[plain oyster]

Yoshiko sniped u

[crystal rune]

Snipe me next

[golden merlin]

Whel

[carmine roost]

Only in bed

Me pgr is poor

[simple dew]

he looks like hes backplooming

[wanton hatch]

this fak

oh I didn't

[carmine roost]

[wanton hatch]

yep I'm in leg

[true pivot]

fk whel

[crystal rune]

Wanna be bracket buddies

I’ll go easy

[wanton hatch]

[carmine roost]

Can add me 👉 👈

Well not leg

[wanton hatch]

wut account u used anyway

[carmine roost]

Fren

[simple dew]

i got merit lower than 100

[trim island]

Jump to original message

[carmine roost]

You'll see one if u read

[wanton hatch]

sure sure

[crystal rune]

Yay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1229456641410203730.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtHappy

[true pivot]

zeratu same bracket fr

[golden merlin]

Im cooked for wz

[crystal rune]

Est cooking light this week

I might be screwed

[true pivot]

just dont join early

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=kyarusmh

[wanton hatch]

wat time you going to open wz Nerdg

[crystal rune]

Anytime you want

[true pivot]

join on sunday

[wanton hatch]

I'll open on reset then pray he isn't there yet

[crystal rune]

wtf

[wanton hatch]

[carmine roost]

Join on Sunday and Nuke whichever bracket joined

[true pivot]

man

[rotund fox]

Rate my score plz

[wanton hatch]

[true pivot]

lightning void df is crazy

[wanton hatch]

@carmine roost which account u used

[crystal rune]

Open on reset and you get me + Lovell

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=kyarusmh

[carmine roost]

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[wanton hatch]

already got Laovell like 2 times

[carmine roost]

6th

[wanton hatch]

I hate you

gave me heart attack

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/968529959981293619.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtNLT

[true pivot]

ploomshots go crazy

[crystal rune]

Oh wait

S+ Teddy this week

[rotund fox]

No shutup Laovisha

[crystal rune]

But this week Teddy can’t be used anywhere

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1455530869958905877.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=RAGE

[true pivot]

void teddy?

[wanton hatch]

use her in nihil

[crystal rune]

No

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

Surely ice IB

[true pivot]

or weaker than verara

[crystal rune]

Ice IB is ass

It’s tifa week

[wanton hatch]

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=kyarusmh