📨・meta-help

[true pivot]

relatable inv to thrash a free cub

[icy otter]

I'm tired of triple lingya teams boss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[orchid owl]

I wanna do intensive ppc but I don't want to learn raydiance rot

[true pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1373015453710028882.gif?size=160

[orchid owl]

[icy otter]

OH FK PPPC NOOO

I haven't

I haven't done anything bro

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[true pivot]

ppc ewers

[slate gull]

not having a free cub is not relatable

[true pivot]

me no likey ppc

[icy otter]

Spent the whole week trying to get this fire 9m

Why dante ass

[orchid owl]

same I just did it

I slacked so hard I didn't even get 10s shorthalt

[true pivot]

need a dalao to carry my ppc

[icy otter]

Someone do overseer for me

[orchid owl]

yk what I'll just skip raydiance IB

fk it

I get 8 skulls anyway

[icy otter]

What is other 2

[orchid owl]

phys and df

trash

[slate gull]

raydiance IB fun

[icy otter]

Easy

Phys will carry

[true pivot]

aw hell naw df ib

[icy otter]

260k score

[orchid owl]

I used TS on phys
couldn't kill boss in 2 team rots

I can use phys too I just prefer vorgil

[icy otter]

Yea ok 3s

[true pivot]

no 3s verge?

[icy otter]

Fk all these f3p bro

[orchid owl]

it is

[icy otter]

Where is my f2p bros

[true pivot]

3s verge should be enough no?

[orchid owl]

32.13 212 111

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1415626887757041715.png?quality=lossless&name=PheebStupid&size=48

[orchid owl]

apparently not

[icy otter]

What the whel

[orchid owl]

idk
I did 3 spirit blade ults

boss was still on 10+ bars

[true pivot]

oof

[orchid owl]

I hit 40 second mark

idc atp

[true pivot]

whats the boss anyways

[orchid owl]

frenzied huaxu

[true pivot]

red huaxu is cring

[orchid owl]

[icy otter]

It's just

[fresh plover]

Bianca's 2 modes aren't something you can set in the presents right

[icy otter]

Just 40m hp no

[orchid owl]

wdym?

[fresh plover]

Ray start vs dark start

On that note who should be on what colour for raydiance

[true pivot]

i dont think you can set that

[fresh plover]

I assume teddy yellow?

[icy otter]

Game gave preset update and its still ass

[orchid owl]

you can change it mid match and before start too

[true pivot]

cant wait for the dark x glow hybrid wz just to mess with us

[fresh plover]

Just an extra thing to remember for an already terrible memory

[analog mango]

Dark + Ray Entropic zone would be kinda cool just to see the dalaos min max between Dianca dark ult spamming then swapping to Raydiance for the later waves
Except it'd just be Raydiance bc who cares about dark

[limber yoke]

blue

[noble zinc]

Ray be hitting 50mil after its zone drops

F2ps at 5mil

[fresh plover]

Man

Im having EN management issues with ray

We sure ss3 bianca uses 2 darwin and not 2 cot right

[limber yoke]

yes

[slate gull]

wdym, plasma zone is the gay zone now

[limber yoke]

https://youtu.be/PX-M6PSMArc?si=m_5CbXMqu-8XG6LN

oh damn

[plain oyster]

[fresh plover]

On the second ult of first bianca rot i dont have the energy for ult

[icy otter]

But u 10m

[limber yoke]

r u equippling dlt

i think u miss a step

[fresh plover]

I have

I think the issue was sp carry

[limber yoke]

I dont do any sp delay

[fresh plover]

It's 3 yellow hold blue right

Or is there something else

[slate gull]

ping the yellow signal orb before sword slam

[limber yoke]

Hold blue until leap then ping yellow orbs

[crystal rune]

swtoh

[limber yoke]

U should be able to ping yellow when ur leaping

[fresh plover]

Even when there is no glowing yellow?

[limber yoke]

Well i did ping yellow when slam on that one instance

Its just one time

254 rot

[carmine roost]

Wdym no glowing yellow

[fresh plover]

I feel like it's a carryover issue somewhere

Let me record my start rq

[slate gull]

also, im bothered by your name. is that an intentional wrong spelling

[fresh plover]

Yes

[slate gull]

watapak

[fresh plover]

After first ult i have 10 stacks you 13

So im doing something wrong here already

[coarse maple]

Hello, I need help with dodge cancelling with vera

[icy otter]

Yes

[crystal rune]

when will you kiwi old man

[icy otter]

Watapak

Im jjst uploading the fire run

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1360894271552622623.webp?size=128&quality=lossless&name=smh_champ&animated=true

I hate this site

While waiting I just watched the df run I posted

And realised

How giga trash it was

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[plain oyster]

[icy otter]

Need a runback

[carmine roost]

What 13 man 🥀

It's still 10 after first ult

[carmine roost]

[icy otter]

I was like

[carmine roost]

Did you not watch it after recording?

[icy otter]

8.4m kinda tough

But no

That was 9m+ inv

[noble zinc]

Who you

[icy otter]

Fraud

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1195443797056827403.webp?size=96&animated=true

[carmine roost]

The fraudolao

[icy otter]

I did

But every week I learn smth new

Even without sp delay

First df wz for 232 112 was 9m

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Im bad

[fresh plover]

I apparently was watching on too low of a resolution and saw that one wrong woops

[noble zinc]

me diff f2p

[limber yoke]

Whel haxx

[icy otter]

Watapak fire

Don't tell 2.332.3 333

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/953114926774374470.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=WDYM

[noble zinc]

Close but yes

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1360894271552622623.webp?size=128&quality=lossless&name=smh_champ&animated=true

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

https://youtu.be/Yt_rQycOT5Q?si=VEdeGW93JfHjcM_y

Ok my job done

[carmine roost]

Donate

[golden nacelle]

[crystal rune]

swtFlop

[young badge]

[fresh plover]

Wait i just realised
I should be using plasma team instead or raydiance team for this wz shouldn't i

[dawn cloak]

Both usable

Ray is meant to be played on plasma zone
No dedicated zone

Ray benefit fully from plasma buff

[carmine roost]

but gay is easier for almost the same score

[sour silo]

I have been sleeping fr r1 teddy is a bit copium

[limber yoke]

pyro is washed case

[slate gull]

any change

[round lake]

Nope

[slate gull]

okay, guess kuro will double down on qte meta

[gilded trench]

whats teddy's memory and weap resos

[spiral merlin]

can we get much higher

[carmine roost]

So high...

[slate gull]

4sig 4chen, reso: atk/ult
weap reso: amp reso, but if your other amp is r2, then can go damaged focus reso. she doesnt need dlt
cmiiw

[gilded trench]

sweet ty, for WZ rots, is spider reliable this time

[slate gull]

80+ mil now total score

[carmine roost]

Can we just get a new tier already

[brittle tundra]

what should be higher than legend?

[crystal rune]

mythic

[brittle tundra]

fair enough

[slate gull]

Whale

[brittle tundra]

also reasonable lol

[round lake]

What about Challenger

[carmine roost]

Those 80m whel will be fighting for 1 spot and none of them are going to complain

[fresh plover]

How do you do the 5 ult rot? Because i consistently don't have enough energy to trigger the third ult
And pinging there propagates negatively and i don't have the orbs for the final ult at all

[simple dew]

dark went from like 2nd worst team to the top so fast

[crystal rune]

it was like

4th best

[gilded trench]

what needs to be changed here

[round lake]

Remember when Burn was considered too strong at 20m? From like 5 months ago?

[fresh plover]

Run whatever 3s amp you have

[slate gull]

do you have lilick or vera

[true pivot]

lilick carried dark hard

[fresh plover]

Instead of ayla

[true pivot]

Lilick

[gilded trench]

i have SSS lilith yeah

[crystal rune]

you'd like to think that

[slate gull]

use her

[round lake]

Kusogames have absolutely no sense of balance anymore

[carmine roost]

You either do

3 yellow > dodge > 3 yellow > dodge > 3 yellow > hold blue orb > glow yellow orb and ult. And repeat that all the way until the end

Or

• 3 yellow > dodge > 3 yellow > dodge > 3 yellow > hold blue orb > glow yellow orb > Additional 3 yellow > ult2
  So 2nd rot afterwards you only need to
• 3 yellow > dodge > 3 yellow > hold blue orb > glow yellow orb > Additional 3 yellow > ult2 and repeat

[gilded trench]

anything else?

[carmine roost]

No other way

[true pivot]

once they buff rosetta its gonna sadly be qte bot moment yea, unless they limit her rots like teddy

[carmine roost]

Not both, not neither

[carmine roost]

Not mixed too

[true pivot]

lilith can run the perm 8% while teddy can run the buff on heal

[carmine roost]

Damn

R2 wanshi

[nova forum]

with dlt

[round lake]

Fat wel

[gilded trench]

i got lazy switching his weapon reso

[crystal rune]

swtAsleep

[carmine roost]

Wish I hab one

[true pivot]

ded

i dont even have dlt on mine

[gilded trench]

nah im a dolphin at most, i spent 50 dollars throughout 3 years

30 dollars was for daren skin

[crystal rune]

pepe_cross

[slate gull]

use glorious spear on your lilick i gues

[gilded trench]

done

[fresh plover]

I don't get a glow yellow every time

[true pivot]

does bonkas need to land her blue on the enemy for sp

[buoyant hornet]

Btw apparently next patch they're making bianca 4-5ult easier

[limber yoke]

i think i did it straightforwardly as the video
2nd swap - 3x yellow > hold blue > ping yellow during jump >ult > repeat 3x again

[gilded trench]

still is Spider2bs teddy rot reliable?

[noble zinc]

But will still get fked by lightning

[buoyant hornet]

They're making the timing for basic release consistent so you can't get the slow version anymore, which apparently makes red ping easier too

[noble zinc]

Thed better fix that

[buoyant hornet]

It's a potential pathway but he didn't list the actual "standard" rot

[crystal rune]

there was a slow version?

[buoyant hornet]

He said short rot is blue + yellow iirc which isn't really the standard, that's only done when it serves a certain breakpoint

[true pivot]

i dont know why you would do ry + rryb instead of just doing a shorter rot to swap to wanshi

[carmine roost]

Nope

[true pivot]

feels like a waste of time and wasting amp and fields

[gilded trench]

got a video thats more proper for doing teddy's rot?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah if you don't time it right you'll get a whack slow version now it's consistent

[carmine roost]

None of her attacks regenerate energy, everything is a preset from the amount of gauge you used

[crystal rune]

oh that

[true pivot]

bili should have lots of those vids

[buoyant hornet]

Idk if there's a video but here's Queso's guide

[true pivot]

crossaintlao has a guide?

KaoriNoodles

[fresh plover]

I think i was whiffing my tap during some jumps woops

[buoyant hornet]

After entering ult1 :

3⚪ x4 = 🔴 (Autopinged after the last 3⚪)

Hold BA = 🔵 (You need to ping it)

X3 BA = 🟡 or 1 BA= 🟡 after 🔵 or 🔴(you need to ping it)

Faster combination: 🔴🟡🔵

Rot:
1st subrot: Swap in > 🟡 (first rotation only) > Ult 1 > 🔵 (Hold BA+ Blue) > Ult 2

2nd subrot: 3x3 ⚪ > 🔴 > Ult 1 > 🔴( 4x3⚪) > 🟡 (BA + Yellow) > 🔵 (Hold BA + Blue) > Ult 2 > Swap Out

Since pressing White orbs before each second sub-rotation is arbitrary, the rotations can be abbreviated as:

🔵-🔴🟡🔵 or B-RYB, where everything before the Hyphen(-) is the first subrotation and everything after the Hyphen(-) is the second subrotation.

Possible combinations:

🔵-🔴🟡🔵 (Fastest rot)
🔵🟡-🔴🟡🔵
🔴🟡🔵-🔴🟡🔵

[carmine roost]

What the

[buoyant hornet]

@gilded trench (credit to @stray siren )

[gilded trench]

thanks, ill look into it

[slate gull]

holy guacamole. nice

[true pivot]

why 4x whites

[buoyant hornet]

Not a video but he made a comprehensive text

[buoyant hornet]

You can autoping red by just tapping a 4th white

[crystal rune]

4 whites is ever so slightly faster iirc

[buoyant hornet]

Easier on the hands for mobile players ig

[buoyant hornet]

Quesolao cooked

[true pivot]

rorrythink

isnt 4 whites then red slower than 3 whites then red

[buoyant hornet]

It's mentioned in her skill descriptions but under a different skill for some reason

[buoyant hornet]

Nah the 4th white ping just pings red instead

It doesn't actually do a white ping afaik

[carmine roost]

Processing your brain to move finger or cursor to red slot is slower than spamming the exact same button repeatedly for the same outcome

[true pivot]

huh

[carmine roost]

Truly a difference

[buoyant hornet]

Idk why they did that with red specifically but it's there ig

[true pivot]

i thought it wasnt like her 2nd base form rot

damn

[crystal rune]

who the hell uses cursor mode

[true pivot]

didnt you use cursor mode

[slate gull]

insane malders

[crystal rune]

only for ppc

[true pivot]

fk ppc

[limber yoke]

me

[carmine roost]

Damn

[true pivot]

damn

[hoary dagger]

K whel

[true pivot]

i did 3x w + r during her ult1 form

[buoyant hornet]

For ishmael shenanigans iirc?

[true pivot]

pane

[crystal rune]

yes

[buoyant hornet]

And I'm guessing it doesn't work for mouse pingers

[crystal rune]

markok is orb pinger with cursor

ReallyShrug

[limber yoke]

who says

smh

[round lake]

Oh Setsu crashed out from Bonka and Rosetta

[buoyant hornet]

They used it?

[true pivot]

uma is bs anyways

[crystal rune]

ye he 3p red when doing ryrdd with cursor

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao his video description

[buoyant hornet]

Does that work with the cursor mode trick I meant?

[crystal rune]

no my trick has the cursor over the ult button

[buoyant hornet]

What was the cursor mode for again I forgot

Was it just setting mouse button to ult

[buoyant hornet]

oh yeah

[round lake]

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxxL2XswQBtDniZg-aBABTZonc6xzhHzaF

[true pivot]

kek

wwww

[buoyant hornet]

Cook them again for me

[radiant panther]

Is your name Cope Pengu on facebook, dawg?

[round lake]

No that must be a fraud

[buoyant hornet]

Setsu spilled

[round lake]

Pls kill him

[true pivot]

i recalled crashing out from the dmc collab before and setsu kinda called me out

rosetta is understandable

[woeful root]

Why is everyone so tense about Rosetta

[fresh plover]

there is a turbo whale in hero

[buoyant hornet]

SURELY they're taking so long to drop v2 because they're doing a lot of rebalancing work right?

SURELY

[dawn cloak]

Who says its only for red?

[true pivot]

v2 is already out though

[round lake]

What can they even do

[true pivot]

unless im missing some context cues

[buoyant hornet]

does hold basic twice proc blue or something

[round lake]

If they wanna fix this mess, either they delete 6 DV or delete Rosetta SSS passive

[fresh plover]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/18730550/characters this is what im going up against

[buoyant hornet]

That's more v1.1, slight fixes to v1 bugs

[dawn cloak]

White ping I mean

[true pivot]

and its still v2

[buoyant hornet]

By "slight" I meant rosetta's sig mem double ult dmg effect literally not working

[dawn cloak]

Nuh uh, v 1.1

[buoyant hornet]

omg not s+ they're so bricked

[buoyant hornet]

Wait so white ping can autoproc blue and yellow?

[slate gull]

doubt it

[radiant panther]

I gues I whel'ed on a wrong game then

[fresh plover]

I want to reiterate
They are in HERO

[dawn cloak]

[buoyant hornet]

I'm inhaling copium here

[buoyant hornet]

Playing blindfolded I fear

[buoyant hornet]

Their score is garbage for that invest 😭

[fresh plover]

Fire team is almost half his score

[buoyant hornet]

What's your fire invest?

[radiant panther]

The scores are not worth fighting for, damn... so much whels

[fresh plover]

Sss wata ss vera ss3 lucia but i cant do the vera tech on mobile and am not sure i do the rotation correctly at all

[slate gull]

bro exposing my skill issues

[buoyant hornet]

Either everyone in chat today is playing fire wrong or y'all have funny invest fire

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah you can definitely get waaaay higher than that

Also vera tech on mobile should be doable

But prolly gotta change some button positions

[fresh plover]

Tried and it's more trouble than it's worth

[noble zinc]

one hand player become

[buoyant hornet]

That tech is the reason vera is any good so idk if I'd say it's not worth the trouble lol

[fresh plover]

Ive been playing with my layout since release

[buoyant hornet]

btw @noble zinc legend fire this week is omega stonks lmao

at least in NA I'm not sure about the rest

[noble zinc]

It's near same hero/leg

[woeful root]

Damn setsu crashed out on Rosetta

[noble zinc]

Sea

[radiant panther]

both actually

[icy otter]

Vera tech need chr icon on left of screen

[fresh plover]

This phone does have shoulder buttons but i got used to having them for qte

[icy otter]

Unless not playing claw

[noble zinc]

Leg you bric but without max reso cub

Hero good

[buoyant hornet]

NA my hero acc is stuck at like 8.8m meanwhile leg is 9.3 lol

[icy otter]

Wait if you have shoulder button for qte then why can't do vera tech

[buoyant hornet]

Both same invest (232 113)

[noble zinc]

What full invest?

Oh

[true pivot]

3s verge or selena faster in red huaxu

[noble zinc]

More bald need

Dow here goin 9mil

With 111

[buoyant hornet]

@cold walrus

[icy otter]

Um max fire score in my bracket is 14m

[gilded trench]

@buoyant hornet so on 2nd swap in teddy auto ults, what do i do then?

[radiant panther]

Is this the ign of Espada here?

[noble zinc]

Ss3 donte

[limber yoke]

yes

[slate gull]

yes

[limber yoke]

@hoary dagger yo

[slate gull]

he only did 2 zones. snipe latur

[icy otter]

2.332 112

Not 111

[fresh plover]

Because you have to hold attack while tapping dodge?

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[radiant panther]

Damn ahahahaaha

[icy otter]

Hold basic with thumb and dodge with index

[buoyant hornet]

I did mald quite enough I shall save my sanity

[icy otter]

Claw

[dawn cloak]

Espada only 2 zones scores btw

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

[round lake]

We don't shjt on Bonka enough

[buoyant hornet]

hold basic + blue > ult2 normally

[radiant panther]

I guess not worth grindin the shi eh

[gilded trench]

ah so thats why it mentions 1st rot only

[fresh plover]

Cant reach trigger like that

[buoyant hornet]

When does wz close

[icy otter]

Uhh

Oh

Right

2 trigger for qte

[radiant panther]

on whom, vera?

[icy otter]

Brick

[fresh plover]

Wait hold basic is the fastest of the three for single ult?

[icy otter]

Boss just put ur chr icons on left like I do

[noble zinc]

You can play in pc?

[dawn cloak]

Eh, just stay top 6 everytime and its enough
Also dont open wz on early week lol
Unless you like in same room with whels

[buoyant hornet]

Keep in mind she only auto-ult1 if her teammates do 3 or more ults before swapping her back in

[buoyant hornet]

yea

Red is slightly slower

[radiant panther]

this is opened on Wednesday dawg

[gilded trench]

im doing wanshis triple ult so that may explain it

is that even optimal anymore

[dawn cloak]

RIP

[buoyant hornet]

Yes

[gilded trench]

sweet my muscle memory doesnt need to change

[fresh plover]

Again
Been playing like this since release
Muscle memory runs deep and changing it is hard due to DCD

[radiant panther]

unlucky timing honestly

[buoyant hornet]

It's the most optimal in most cases now because of her mechanic

You want as much of her damage to fit into amp buff as possible

[carmine roost]

What rot did you use for hero

[dawn cloak]

Yea. One time I met Ken and Randrice on Wednesday too

[buoyant hornet]

Lucia?

[carmine roost]

[dawn cloak]

Bro retain legends with just 2 zones

[carmine roost]

Full team if possible

Just tldr if lazy

[buoyant hornet]

Fire doesn't really have notable rot variations outside of lucia 😭

On lucia I did 1eclipse > 1slash strat

It doesn't work with pyro's own weather ironically enough

[radiant panther]

I was thinking on a bell curve where the closer the middle of the week, the lower is the chance but damn it skewed slightly to the right

[carmine roost]

Did you remember what wave was it again

[fresh plover]

I thought lucia currently only used 1 eclipse and then swap to Vera?

[carmine roost]

8.8

[slate gull]

try thursday night

[fresh plover]

Or do you just not swap in wata at all anymore

[carmine roost]

That's also viable

[radiant panther]

yeah I might have to try that

[dawn cloak]

Yeah, you'll open thursday 2 weeks later

Smh

[slate gull]

lmao

[radiant panther]

wata for proccing shred only

[buoyant hornet]

Not really but I'll check if I recorded, I think it was wave 40

[fresh plover]

I thought the field the ult gives helped with that, i assume the qtes alone are enough then

[noble zinc]

I cant

[normal sierra]

fat load of good that did to me now, 5 whels in me bracket

[buoyant hornet]

That's ancient history

[limber yoke]

wdym

fk

[slate gull]

dang lol

[limber yoke]

im gonna demote

[noble zinc]

Bald fire or you bald hero

[dawn cloak]

🤏

So close

[limber yoke]

@noble zinc pls help

i cant hax fire

[noble zinc]

copy my hw

[fresh plover]

Do you have a sample run i can look at

[limber yoke]

cant copy hax

[dawn cloak]

Copying each other last hr smh

[noble zinc]

Quick run let's try wait

[slate gull]

oh so that's you

[fresh plover]

Because vera dodge cancels being executed poorly definitely isn't my only issue

[carmine roost]

Fair enuff then

[true pivot]

this looks terrible lol

[buoyant hornet]

I forgot if I uploaded a run at all after wata got his leap lol I'll look for someone else's video

[radiant panther]

not always

[young badge]

what is teddy rotation

[fresh plover]

Blue ping short ult into a full ult

[carmine roost]

Random bullsht go

[slate gull]

#📨・meta-help message

[fresh plover]

It insta ults second rotation onwards

[limber yoke]

pilot me

[noble zinc]

Doin

Me will snipe last sec the other person

[limber yoke]

thx

[buoyant hornet]

Oh turns out I'm 8.6 I misremembered

[noble zinc]

[limber yoke]

just beat the guy score

[radiant panther]

I need Vera and wata timings guys, so that I can kill w7 in one go, also the rots

[limber yoke]

then its fine

[buoyant hornet]

Wait a damn minute I didn't equip lingya on lilith that explains the -1 orb on wanshi 💀

[noble zinc]

Where attack top

Wanshi

[fresh plover]

i also technically do have a controller that is compatible with phone but im too lazy to set it up

[limber yoke]

aint red good

[dawn cloak]

Nah, just timing his red

[carmine roost]

At least with my invest for hero this week my start is VERY weird

I don't cancel vera red orb to kill wave 3 and didn't cancel her core either to kill worm at wave 4 so vera ult can kill wave 5 and wave 6 simultaneously and wave 7 and 8 like normal with vera ult killed w9

[noble zinc]

Attack ult better this time

11.7 godz same inv as your

[carmine roost]

Make sense of that if you will

[buoyant hornet]

I don't see a world where wata swaps in on wave 7 unless you're in legend (although even in leg I'm sure vera + lucia should be killing by w7 iirc)

[noble zinc]

Not vera that

[limber yoke]

well

[noble zinc]

Let's see if he balds we ded

[buoyant hornet]

nuke do you have a 232 fire video

[noble zinc]

None played mine

[buoyant hornet]

oh well I'll just use the latest run it's the same rot anyway

[carmine roost]

Just get r3 pyro and get ez 9m fr fr

[rose yew]

Wadapak is of score 5.7mil for dark
Do they not have scire

[dawn cloak]

~~ best dark tank ~~

[fresh plover]

This is the correct setup for fire right

[buoyant hornet]

I'm dumb I forgot the person asking for the video also has 2.332 lol

@fresh plover
https://youtu.be/iHjJCwvY18M?si=KTB-2eakq27Wm5wP

[buoyant hornet]

Dlt on lucia

[slate gull]

remove

[radiant panther]

fuh vera ult 1 cant kill w7 if wata didn't shred enough on w6

[buoyant hornet]

Also if you have wata's bat cub use it instead of lingya

[buoyant hornet]

Are you swapping them wrong 😭

[fresh plover]

Why? As long as you don't activate the stacks wata keeps doing fire qte i thought

[buoyant hornet]

It's supposed to be wata starter> instant swap to vera > 1rot vera > 1eclipse lucia > wata

[buoyant hornet]

True but it looks annoying onscreen

[radiant panther]

Im using Pyro's slash meter as th timing but I shred too late

[slate gull]

i mean yeah but just remove it. DF rot definitely fcked up my fire rot

[fresh plover]

It gives a better visual representation if I accidentally hold instead

[buoyant hornet]

Fair ig

[normal sierra]

you can still activate dripflop even with that turned off in the menu

[fresh plover]

I know

[dawn cloak]

Yea so doesnt matter
Its not Vero or Teddy where it matters

[buoyant hornet]

I don't understand why they don't retroactively make all affix rot pathways just locked to selecting affix

Teddy does that, veronica literally gets fire buffs immediately but still needs to hold ult1

I don't get it

[slate gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867789773729300490/1397606096096592014/998fa50587ae422c981a7e7aea27f50d20250722.gif

[normal sierra]

kuso things
why make it simple and consistent when they can just fudge up our rotas with oversensitive hold ult mechanics

[buoyant hornet]

They can easily just add a toggle on character kit menus to allow this

[fresh plover]

Who should be the leader for fire btw
Vera i guess?

[carmine roost]

Tf you mean "didn't shred enough" lmfao

What's your Lucia rank again

SS0?

[radiant panther]

fuh im having timing issues

[fresh plover]

Ss3

[limber yoke]

pyro

[buoyant hornet]

Pls kuro give void zone next week

[radiant panther]

What the hell is this pyro tech, why I have to time killing vassago in exactly 2 slash

[carmine roost]

Oh btw

Did you actually got the recording for your 232 fire run?

Mind if I see them?

[buoyant hornet]

I have it yeah

[slate gull]

does ish copy breaker class

[carmine roost]

I read somewhere that it did

[buoyant hornet]

yes

[carmine roost]

Technically Rosetta is the new dark tank

So she just copy her

[slate gull]

so can you cope with 3S ish in dark?

[carmine roost]

She still won't deal dark dmg

So not really ig

[buoyant hornet]

Not really she doesn't have qte shred field like rose

[slate gull]

ahh

[carmine roost]

Roset has qte field shred?

Damn gen4 tank

[buoyant hornet]

Expect very random music in the video I was only recording to check breakpoints if needed so was listening to spotify

[noble zinc]

Pak wata back at it again

[slate gull]

is that paimon

[carmine roost]

It's fine

I'm kind of the guy that listen to (almost) everything

[slate gull]

listen to me then

[radiant panther]

yeah w7 is the chokepoint

[fresh plover]

Oh i just realised i have to swap lucia back over to dlt for this

[noble zinc]

Damg that minor buff coming out big

[fresh plover]

Anyway even with inconsistent vera dodge cancels this rot is a significant improvement

[radiant panther]

omedeto, shinji

[buoyant hornet]

Same lmao

[fresh plover]

Btw for dlt reasons
Is the intro you use important?

I saw something like that somewhere but i forgot who the intro should be

[slate gull]

the longest intro

[fresh plover]

And which one is that for fire

[slate gull]

lucia wedding coating if you have iirc

[buoyant hornet]

Just avoid using the intro animation of the actual starter character, for some reason using another character's intro allows you to shave a few frames off of the start of the run

[buoyant hornet]

Do intros actually affect dlt??

[fresh plover]

I don't do coatings

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao didn't think so

[crystal rune]

yes

[slate gull]

some dalao did mention it. i forgot who

[crystal rune]

dlt is in realtime

and that includes cutscenes

[slate gull]

oh yah i think it was nuke

[buoyant hornet]

So that's why not having pyro starter gets me a slight orb delay on vera lmfaooo

[crystal rune]

its promininent in glow

i had intro on teddy and had no orbs on 4th ult 2nd swap

[buoyant hornet]

Bianca long ass anim

[slate gull]

kek

[carmine reef]

I noticed another thing before

Intro animation setting actually has that character physically onfield and then switches to your actual starter at 0:00

If you mash orbs enough at start you will actually ping orb on your intro character

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it looks funny

[noble zinc]

You don't need to bother dlt try for fire

[carmine reef]

And not the starter

[noble zinc]

[carmine reef]

This happened to me once in void

[buoyant hornet]

WHAHT

[carmine reef]

I had luna set to intro, wata to starter

[buoyant hornet]

bot users in shambles rn

[slate gull]

haxx

[carmine reef]

Mashing orbs enough at start and i saw a luna yellow come out

Lmao

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it didn't cause any real issues

[carmine roost]

@true pivot now that's pretty specific no?

Unless you don't really use teddy intro anyway...

[buoyant hornet]

Spaghetti code as usual

[noble zinc]

Pak pc haxers

Mobile no rights again

[radiant panther]

Whats with Teddy intro anyway?

[crystal rune]

super short

[radiant panther]

spamming both 2 and E is a godsend dawg

[carmine roost]

Damn PC haxxer

[limber yoke]

just use mouse to ping

[crystal rune]

ehhh~1

psycho

[slate gull]

pc aboos

[buoyant hornet]

Very fast

Meanwhile bianca and liv intros take 10 hours

[radiant panther]

left for basic right for dodge dawg, I only qpply it to any frames that requires speed like, Nihil and fire

[true pivot]

why are you asking me

[carmine roost]

How about fire team tho?

[radiant panther]

Every team is using left ckick to ping orbs and basic

[true pivot]

oh yea i do have teddy intro

[limber yoke]

my left thumb is for basic attack

[true pivot]

does that brick

[limber yoke]

mouse is ping orbs

dodge is shift

[carmine roost]

I mean just mentioning that Bianca intro give you dlt early than teddy intro from what I've read

Just a biiiiiiit early

[slate gull]

[buoyant hornet]

Just avoid wata ig but assuming no coating intros, I think Lucia might be slightly longer than vera but they're very similar in length I believe

[buoyant hornet]

Apparently

[carmine roost]

I see

[radiant panther]

oh so thats why I can do 4 ult all the way

[true pivot]

oh well then

[carmine roost]

You have ss3 Bianca too?

I reckon this might affect ss3 only with Darwin set cuz cottie bianca has absolute 0 issues with orb or energy as far as I can tell

[radiant panther]

3s, its on my one of experimental runs

[carmine roost]

Oh right

It's you Mr potato

With 3s bonca not but so 3s other

[dawn cloak]

Nana 3S too no?

[radiant panther]

[radiant panther]

SS3

its for burn supposedly

[carmine roost]

I mean as far as I remember, it wasn't 33x team

[dawn cloak]

Oh, my bad

[buoyant hornet]

SS0 bianca instead has issues with getting score in the first place exactlyyy

[dawn cloak]

[carmine roost]

SS0 brick no rights

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao imagine we get SSS teddy only to find out ss0 bianca glow is still bad after that

[carmine roost]

Whel gem

[slate gull]

whel

[crystal rune]

4worrywhale

[round lake]

SS Midianca still mid in Gaydiance who'd have thought

[radiant panther]

Finally I can buy this one teddy shard

[buoyant hornet]

@carmine roost
https://youtu.be/EGsWF2xFrTk

[fresh plover]

Gotta love doing eclipse smash on 2% roland

[carmine roost]

Thank you very much

[carmine roost]

SSS rank cub helps

[carmine roost]

Lmao whaduhell

[slate gull]

gotta watch on YT

[buoyant hornet]

freaking taylor swift

[radiant panther]

nooooo

[buoyant hornet]

One of her songs was playing I didn't consider it getting blocked lmfao

[carmine roost]

Ight

Time to dograw that 1200 voucher shard

[split sail]

oof somehow i'm 500k off of yoshiko's 223 ray score even when i've got ss3 nana

[buoyant hornet]

@carmine roostare you able to view it on yt or?

[fresh plover]

Gonna stop my attempts for now I'm tilting myself with my chokes

[carmine roost]

IT'S NOW OR NEVER

[carmine roost]

Able just fine

[split sail]

is GA reso on ray bianca just that strong

[carmine roost]

It's just discord embed that's unavailable

[radiant panther]

https://tenor.com/view/dh9511dh-empty-wallet-hurt-look-away-gif-13355852

[split sail]

i am slow by like 1-2s, can't get off the final ult for 4 ult end lik the vid

[carmine roost]

Well Ga breakpoint and non GA breakpoint will certainly be different considering the only one that actually deal Raydiance dmg is only Bianca

[carmine roost]

But that's probably a bigger issue

Than no r2

4th ult is buffed ult with stack

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362839506922766587.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=swtFlop

[carmine roost]

Easily 300~400k score locked

[buoyant hornet]

Glow?

[carmine roost]

[split sail]

i know, tho at most it might just match your wave count

yeh glow/ray

[buoyant hornet]

magma said he got similar scores with just 22222 swaps instead of 5ult swaps

[split sail]

is there any tip for dealing with the input lag on bianca swap in

[buoyant hornet]

Or something like that

[crystal rune]

theres input lag?

[buoyant hornet]

I wish

[split sail]

i don't think i saw dodge cancels on swap in

[carmine roost]

Her swap in isn't a lag, it has its own timestop

[buoyant hornet]

The dumb animation thing

[buoyant hornet]

wait it does?

[carmine roost]

U don't need to worry about that animation

[buoyant hornet]

Nice

[crystal rune]

thats not input lag + it has tlc

[sonic tide]

Bro u miss calculate or smth?

[split sail]

oh ok, just feels clunky as hell

[crystal rune]

i remember aether talking about this

[radiant panther]

no, I lack servoce coins, its not enough

[sonic tide]

Wait for next week

[carmine roost]

Dodge nana orb for like slightly faster swap on Bianca ig with SS/SS3 nana

[carmine roost]

It's mostly just dodging yellow orb properly

[split sail]

and with teddy double yellow and 3s, you just gotta spam bianca qte asap so you can swap to her asap after qte ends right?

[radiant panther]

I hope I can fully buy them on this thursday

[carmine roost]

Oh also

I bring my analog forward when dodging yellow orb so my Bianca does front dodge instead of back dodge when canceling yellow constantly

[split sail]

dodge cancel nana's orbs? makes sense

[carmine roost]

Dodge her orb as soon as you fill the gauge

The gauge is filled sooner before her animation

So that might help ig

[radiant panther]

why forward when I use camera to dodge sideways (its good but also shjtty)

[carmine roost]

Anything that isn't back dodge should be fine

[split sail]

back dodge slower?

[carmine roost]

I think If I remember correctly, only backwards dodge that has a slight delay before you're able to do any attack or move

I can't really say I'm sure for certain

But it's pretty much in my muscle memory already, so what can I do

[sonic tide]

[radiant panther]

ok I will do it again before showering myself for the coldness

[slate gull]

bianca starter?

[crystal rune]

bica 4 cottie

nanami 4 cottie

[carmine roost]

No lingya on teddy rip

I don't think he's playing Raydiance guys

[radiant panther]

ok I forgor to change it

so thats why nana has no damage lel

[crystal rune]

i mean

no

[carmine roost]

How did you even forget to ask what should other use...

All of those mald but with those

[radiant panther]

fuh +4 then +7, how tf did I do that

[split sail]

wtf i got slower

[noble zinc]

Multi at once how you do dosent work for me

[split sail]

tho the forward dodge thing does feel faster, i think i'm screwing up the nana orb dodges

wtf shouldn't ss3 nana be a big bump ugh

[buoyant hornet]

She is but zero multiplied by 10 is still zero

No sss teddy = no glow rights

[split sail]

its sss

[buoyant hornet]

oh

[radiant panther]

if you are fast enough and it also because of a very slight delay before orb show up

[split sail]

like, i'm pretty sure ss3 nana is supposed to be stronger than GA reso on bianca

[dawn cloak]

Reminder to not mald too much

[carmine roost]

Oh I wait

I still need to mald my fire again

Shouldn't be that hard now I've got the map

Last day sniping?

Last hour sniping?

[noble zinc]

Why is bonca orb not glowing wtf

[buoyant hornet]

Did you magically demote to ss0

[noble zinc]

Always been ss0

I mean am playing ss3

It's not glowing

Yet can ping

[radiant panther]

its weird how I got to wave 30 now im always going to end up in 28

[dawn cloak]

If it have matrix its not glowing
Its overlapped

[buoyant hornet]

spaghetti code

[radiant panther]

even if its in matrix just ping

[sly geyser]

just look at that ded fish on no3

[dawn cloak]

These last hr bracket smh

[sly geyser]

this my alt anyway

just testing the waters for my last 15 min wantaps on my main to maintain legend

[radiant panther]

wtf happend to pyro, why no 3 set orb pings on 2nd swap 💀

nah im out this shi so concerning

[sonic tide]

Huh

[cunning hound]

help what reosys does teddy want

[radiant panther]

Yeah it said do 3 sets of bl;ue Ibut In only got two, I even outright eptying it

pyro washed truly, can't even recover orbs

[buoyant hornet]

Depends lol just know she doesn't need dlt, so if you r1-r2 her you can use incan and/or ml in ice team or in ray/glacio/qte bot she just carries amp resos

[cunning hound]

ah i meant memory resos

[pine slate]

Pyro orb gen depends on u hitting the enemies with her hold ba right?

[cunning hound]

also hi feyer-san

sss using vouchers is pricey as sht

[radiant panther]

must be both empty and slight hold ba wait hold ba mechanics

[split sail]

doing dbl rots ends up being 2222 and is slightly worse than 253 for me. but getting 5.32m just feels so far from yshiko's 5.87 (i'm presuming the vid is also hero)

[pine slate]

Tf is empty, slight, wait hold ba

Did pyro get a leap or smth

[cunning hound]

teddy uses cheng?!

ive been avoiding learning ice warzone till the very last second

[sly geyser]

someone has the inputs for wata fast ult

[radiant panther]

Ba > hold dod > BA > ping until ult

[cunning hound]

someone daskette kudasai

[radiant panther]

empty sword and a bit of hold off after killing a wave

[sly geyser]

no cancelling ?

[radiant panther]

no need

[sly geyser]

bruh how are they so fast

me slow af

[radiant panther]

his leap is already fast

[sly geyser]

fck

me too lazy lazy to do cursed waves

and dfm and that other one

[sonic tide]

Why not ba >hold dodge> blaze orb then ult

[brittle tundra]

awakening tundra?

[sly geyser]

huh u saying the same thing bro

[sly geyser]

ye

[brittle tundra]

lol resonable

[sonic tide]

Im confused bout the ba after the hold dodge

[dawn cloak]

https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1447937004385075392

[sonic tide]

Ba hold dodge ba

[sly geyser]

ohhh

[ripe stag]

SS0 Bianca better be doing double rot for Raydiance right?

[sly geyser]

my mind subconsciously deleted it lol

[sonic tide]

[sly geyser]

just do dark

[cunning hound]

arigato

[noble zinc]

Classic felt better idk didn't mald

[ripe stag]

No

[ripe stag]

Classic?

[noble zinc]

154 that

[ripe stag]

As in 5 rot

?

[pine slate]

Oh

[noble zinc]

Yes

[ripe stag]

Damn

[noble zinc]

didnt mald again am like1mil behind ss3

[dawn cloak]

@ripe stag ☝️

[pine slate]

Cancel blaze with hold dodge

Then spam blaze until ult

[sly geyser]

ohhhh

[pine slate]

Used to be like

[sly geyser]

thanks

[noble zinc]

Yea classic orb regen ruke applies here too

[pine slate]

I think u can go like

Swap in > ult > ba > blaze > hold dodge > spam blaze > ult?

[noble zinc]

Unkiwi?

[slate gull]

dazzalao is back

[ripe stag]

I see

Cuz I got 5.9m with just casually testing double rot

I should do this too

[noble zinc]

Yea that bad

7.4 like

Should be it

[sly geyser]

what the who's playing for mycledra

[sonic tide]

Like this right so yeah ult ba> hold dodge> blaze orb ult

[sly geyser]

[radiant panther]

[sly geyser]

my wata is cheap

me only ss0 wata

[sonic tide]

Leap wata can

3 stack thou

[sly geyser]

me too lazy ahhhhhhhhh

[sonic tide]

[sly geyser]

maybe two runs of cursed wave may do

hummm we need 2025 to fully leap character right ?

nah too lazy

[pine slate]

No

[sonic tide]

Howbout ur warzone currency shop

[sly geyser]

wait

that might not be a bad idea

[sonic tide]

Well depend if ur stacked go

If not save it for red reso memo

[sly geyser]

69k

oh

forgot to buy these for the month

[sonic tide]

Quiet a lot the rest is up to u

[sly geyser]

ye kinda cheap

k let's do this

[sonic tide]

[radiant panther]

[brittle tundra]

is that for SSS watanabe? i cant cuz i got SS

[sonic tide]

More like his leap

The diff only wata sss 6 stack non sss 3 stack iirc

[brittle tundra]

wait parrying grants ult stacks?

[brittle tundra]

ya SSS gets 6

[sonic tide]

No but another blaze

Leap

[sly geyser]

better this working

otherwise it'd be ur fault

[sonic tide]

i said rest is up to u dnt blame me

[sly geyser]

no it's u

[ripe stag]

IT HAPPENED

WANSHI RELOAD VANISHED

The bug is back

[sonic tide]

Wait i thought it's always exist

[ripe stag]

He was fixed

It's back again

[sonic tide]

Zamn

How they manage to unfix him

[bronze tulip]

does selena rotation change in glaciation team?

[sonic tide]

How is it i already check ss0 fire warzone gameplay wata same

Works

[sly geyser]

ye works

[sonic tide]

Now gib rc

[sly geyser]

me just lazy ass slow af

[sly geyser]

no u

me poor af

[sonic tide]

[sly geyser]

u have wata s+ r3 with s+ cub

pls fund me

[sonic tide]

Wym me sss wata from all previous selector and one blue banner

[sly geyser]

ye that what they all say

[ripe stag]

@sly geyser Wanshi quad rot needed for ice?

[sonic tide]

Xplain quad

I thought 3x

[sly geyser]

kind of the same, u just need to enable glacio with wanshi first

[sly geyser]

quad ? like 4 times?

[sonic tide]

[ripe stag]

First rot - swap in > 6 > Bullet Ult > swap out
After that - swap in > [12 > Bullet Ult] > [18 > Bullet Ult] > [30 > Drone Ult] > [6 > Bullet Ult] > swap out

Idk what I'm thinking

[sonic tide]

So 3x

[ripe stag]

[sly geyser]

that 3 times bro

for a moment i thought i was playing wanshi wrong

[sonic tide]

Yeah needed so teddy can insta ult cuz her weap passive thingy

Unless u have sss vera there's a tech

[sly geyser]

geira ?

[ripe stag]

Check again
It's 4 ults there

[bronze tulip]

cant even get 310k+ on madam monanza

[ripe stag]

Check out Windbell's videos

[graceful summit]

For what reason 4 ult tho

[sonic tide]

Yee

[graceful summit]

Takes too much times

[ripe stag]

Same question

[sly geyser]

manzanza 😂

[sly geyser]

why even ?

feel too much to me idk

[graceful summit]

It ate too much on teddy swap time

Not worth it

[sonic tide]

Waste too much time ngl 3x ult wanshi already

But have to

[graceful summit]

Ye

That's why there's the sss vera strat

[sly geyser]

can't do it with free unit lilith ?

[sonic tide]

Whale hab rights

[slate gull]

i havent tried that yet and wz almost over

[graceful summit]

Doesn't seem so

[slate gull]

what a slaccer

[graceful summit]

Ask nuke he the one that tried it

[sly geyser]

wym wz still has 1h30m left

[sonic tide]

If only ish class can be activated without attacker

[graceful summit]

That's too much hope

Kuro would never be that competent

[sonic tide]

Yeah

[sly geyser]

bro thought kuso was a charity

[sonic tide]

[ripe stag]

Hmmm

Nvm

I found a way

[sonic tide]

What's the way

[noble zinc]

Tha fok did they buff hero

[slate gull]

wth

[sonic tide]

Whel

[graceful summit]

[sly geyser]

how many waves to target 9m or so

50 ?

[icy otter]

Fk whel

90 alts

[sonic tide]

Hero prob 40

[sly geyser]

can do with 222 113 ?

or am i cooked

[graceful summit]

[sonic tide]

Nah ur cooked u know kuro right

333 or no rights

Look at nuke

[slate gull]

i thought people said pgr most f2p gacha everrrrrr

[spiral merlin]

They did by a lot

[graceful summit]

Suddenly thinking
If new ice attacker would wanshi just gone altogether

[spiral merlin]

Hero scores more than legend

[graceful summit]

And use ish instead

[sonic tide]

Yeah for obtaining only, to have fun? Nah

[noble zinc]

From which wave Scoring giga jump now?

[spiral merlin]

w55

[slate gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867789773729300490/1397606096096592014/998fa50587ae422c981a7e7aea27f50d20250722.gif

[noble zinc]

If only had more time

[spiral merlin]

Scaling seems to go through the roof beyond 55

[noble zinc]

17mil fire

[sly geyser]

so my 4m is legitimate ?

[spiral merlin]

Highest dark score across all servers is eu hero