📨・meta-help

[carmine reef]

yes it is

[tacit tiger]

3535 is the consistent combination

[carmine roost]

Idk howtf to 5 rot with ss0 nana

[tacit tiger]

???

You don't need 3s

[stray siren]

Tbh, ever since they cooked the 5 rot strat in Viet PGR, I haven't seen any SS3 Lucia get better score than them

[stray siren]

You need to calculate the number of ultimates of Lucia in each rotation

[carmine reef]

ss3 has a better 5 rot because it's slightly tighter on ss0, you can squeeze out a little more on ss3
also ss3 can do 2s1e opener

[tacit tiger]

3535 is still the one I should use

[tacit tiger]

You can 3 ping after that ult to do the last ult

[cobalt prawn]

Oh interesting I’ve always done 3355

[tacit tiger]

Bruh

[cobalt prawn]

I do have 3s nana now tho

Back then I was playing with ss3 idk if that changes any of the rotations

But lowkey fk plasma I’ll just play dark

[fluid gulch]

I don't wanna play SS0 Midanca, so I'll stick to my 333 Plasma

[carmine roost]

Bro Fck that

I'm not mathing in my gacha game

I don't even read

[stray siren]

https://youtu.be/3l6NU4lRnpU?si=ZeyRz6Zj5o53pIqw

[cobalt prawn]

333 dark with Wata gang

I’m 99% sure it will score better than plasma

[stray siren]

The idea behind 5rot is to avoid using 5slash ult

[cobalt prawn]

Actually no that’s just cuz I only have ss3 pyroach

What’s wrong w 5slash tho

It’s fun

[carmine reef]

what 5 rot are you talking about

a 5 rot with an eclipse is just mathematically impossible is it not

[stray siren]

Lucia entered the field 5 times in total

[cobalt prawn]

I think he means 5 pyro rotations

[carmine reef]

oh

5 swaps

[cobalt prawn]

Like ss0

[stray siren]

5 swaps yesh

[carmine reef]

yeah i guess that would even it out if you were doing that, but that would also mean you're spending more time off of lucia

at the end of the day probably just breakpoint dependent

[cobalt prawn]

Nana’s dmg is sorta ok, u mainly just wanna spend as little time as possible on lilith ig

[stray siren]

This was my approximation, but it requires much more speed:

https://youtu.be/ZToSlzvnpqk?si=UW4SdPR0h2pZahVP

In that time my investment was: 2.123 223

[carmine reef]

the score does not look better than what i was doing before

[tacit tiger]

Invest?

[stray siren]

Nah, should be 8M at least

[solemn berry]

Happy New Years, can't be bothered to do this on the other one

[stray siren]

But I just don't know how to Plasma

[carmine reef]

my ion peaked at like 9m 2.32.33 122

[solemn berry]

Thank you for 3/5 of my 2025

[carmine reef]

accounting for nana diff it just seems the exact same

not to mention less reso on lucia

although if that's a recent week it might be better

ion this week is booty cheeks

[stray siren]

I need to find the Vietnam player, he was achieving the highest Ion f2p score in NA with 5 rots

But he posts his videos on Facebook

[carmine roost]

Ion can die in the trench

Old ahh team

[stray siren]

Gaydiance >>

[stray siren]

Happy new year

[true pivot]

no f2p, meta whel or brick

[stray siren]

Fund me

[true pivot]

Evil Liv Sheep

[stray siren]

Bro, f*ck FB and its stupid new search interface

[true pivot]

bruhh

[carmine roost]

Let them cook

Maybe "new dark tank will get make dark gets 30m" wasn't a sarcasm at all

[crystal rune]

Fcking piece of sht game

[median spade]

"kill daren"
"daren needs to go"
"dark NEEDS new tank"

same mfs will then complain about dark hitting 30m

[true pivot]

bianca doing 5 rot forever is such a pain

[median spade]

3 rot feels nice

less headache

[cobalt prawn]

Ooooh yessss

Finally

[true pivot]

we are so not doing 5 rot

[cobalt prawn]

I won’t have to be stressed doing so many red orb weaves

Although

I might need 5 rot anyways

Cuz I’m not getting 3s rosy

[median spade]

rosetta has nothing to do with 3 rot

you can 3 rot now

[cobalt prawn]

Wait wat

I play w 3s Wata tho

[median spade]

https://youtu.be/lxU_ZNJuLTc?si=H83-Cih2i7l1z4kh

[cobalt prawn]

So only lilith and bonka to fill each others downtime

[carmine roost]

Time to kiwi

Trash game

No reason to play

[cobalt prawn]

Hm

[median spade]

time to move to wuwa

pack it up

[crystal rune]

wuwa trash too

[carmine roost]

Pack it up

[cobalt prawn]

Im gonna be real i dont like the hold dodge so im gonna keep torturing myself w 5 rot

[median spade]

lynae hot though

[crystal rune]

lynae mid

[median spade]

you mid

[crystal rune]

[median spade]

i'm sorry

i didn't mean that

[cobalt prawn]

QIUYUAN

#1

[carmine roost]

I mean it instead

Nerdgi

[median spade]

nergi my goat

🐐

[crystal rune]

[stray siren]

I just hope that everyone who said their scores were garbage because of Karen, now actually gets the meta scores for their respective investments

[median spade]

i guess thats fair

[true pivot]

its gon be hilarious if their score gets even more bricked

[median spade]

if its not one problem its another

just hope the anti daren people are gonna have a properly invested rosetta

[wise axle]

I can foresee myself questioning my existence and decision 2 months later

[true pivot]

"rosetta isnt free!!"
"rosetta is so slow!1!!"

[carmine roost]

Avg global player experience

At least daren wasn't free to put the ball low

[wise axle]

I can’t even 5ult bonca nicely so if we still need to do 5 ult I guess I’ll just die

[carmine roost]

Okay then

You'll die

[wise axle]

[carmine roost]

https://tenor.com/view/thy-end-is-now-gif-18153971514165038770

[median spade]

hanging out with bro

[carmine roost]

What rank is she

[median spade]

S6

[carmine roost]

Does she needs dlt?

[median spade]

yes need DLT

[wise axle]

I’m just gonna wait for the inspiration to hit me like how I suddenly was able to do 5 slash plasma Lucia

[carmine roost]

[stray siren]

Probably I will be playing Lamia + Lilith + SSSish or Rosetta + Karen + Lilith

[true pivot]

[median spade]

unless you get any of the whels we have now those will score fine

my brackets since first week of liv have been so slack

[normal sierra]

k whel

[stray siren]

I'm only afraid of the OG whales of NA

[normal sierra]

you mean those that quit like... 2 years ago?

[peak halo]

[crystal rune]

1/3 of the whels in na is 1 person

[stray siren]

Show more respect to my 7 goats

Well, I don't know how many are left

[median spade]

KILL PILOTS

ESPECIALLY NERGI

[true pivot]

ban the pilots!

[median spade]

3 mfs on tari account first week of liv

had me fighting for my life

[crystal rune]

im sniping you next nathan

[stray siren]

bang the pilots

[median spade]

ill never forgive the pilots

[crystal rune]

i mean natlan

[true pivot]

for natlan

[median spade]

FOR NATLAN

[round lake]

Genshjt mentioned in our glorious PGR server

[median spade]

jenshin is the best

[stray siren]

PGR= Play Genshin Rimpact

[true pivot]

play genshin right now

[median spade]

pgrn

[normal sierra]

ban the pilots!

[true pivot]

im not a pilot so im safe from bans

[median spade]

kill the pilots!

with fire!

[true pivot]

KaoriNoodles

[normal sierra]

ban the airplanes too!

[stone basalt]

gotta try harder to sell Me on it cx

[icy otter]

No

I need the lao pilots

[wise axle]

✈️

[icy otter]

Now @true pivot gonna be my pilot

Get me 10m fire dalao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1195443797056827403.webp?size=96&animated=true

[median spade]

just get better

no pilot

KILL PILOTS

[icy otter]

Nuh uh

[normal sierra]

he true to the name fraud

[icy otter]

Shut

Ss3 dante fraud

Only 9m fire

I need 1m more

[median spade]

danwho

[icy otter]

Only dalaos can do it

[true pivot]

why am i a dalao now

[icy otter]

Basically chinese

[median spade]

thats crazy

[icy otter]

You got this

[true pivot]

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-toilet-restroom-gif-14343205956687655242

[pine slate]

Ew Chinese

[true pivot]

i got the sea debuff though

[icy otter]

The uh

What does nuke call it

[carmine roost]

Yuh uh

[icy otter]

The ching Chong buff will pull through

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[median spade]

thats crazy

[carmine roost]

Mainland buff

[true pivot]

at the cost of my fingers

[carmine roost]

[median spade]

can i as a white man say this too

or nah

[carmine roost]

You can grow it back

[icy otter]

Ban

[carmine roost]

It'll be fine

[true pivot]

silly ice wz this week 2.334 ted wanwan lilick

[icy otter]

What the hax

[carmine roost]

You can also get the finger ing X2000 by Elon for finger prosthetic

[icy otter]

This why u dalao

Now pilot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936606307388121188.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worryRun

[true pivot]

[carmine roost]

Another pilot has hit the double stage

[true pivot]

no time

[carmine roost]

[icy otter]

Where ur cc role

What happen to it

[carmine roost]

CC soon™

[icy otter]

Also imagine professional editing

[median spade]

is that my da vanci resolve brother

[true pivot]

i tried to apply once, they said it was full so i gave up

[median spade]

that program rules

[icy otter]

Can I apply with 3 views

[true pivot]

its pirated premiere

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1195443797056827403.webp?size=96&animated=true

[true pivot]

lunadoge

recenty saw some cc requirements

safe to say, i aint doin allat

[icy otter]

What are they

5k sub 2k view per video

[true pivot]

3k per video per week is crazy, go eat a bag of rocks

[median spade]

just bot the views

[icy otter]

Wait

[median spade]

cheap

[icy otter]

3k view for

An orange role

[normal sierra]

not even 10 minutes, where is my 45 minutes guide?

[true pivot]

to maintain that orang role

[true pivot]

funnily enough, i tried to keep it below 10mins so people wont think im farming for ads

im not even monetized

[icy otter]

Wait snazz and airbelllao must have insane view pull

Theyre eating our views

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/953114926774374470.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=WDYM

[true pivot]

fr

[median spade]

i see snazz video i click

thats my goat

[true pivot]

snazzlao and windbellao too op

[median spade]

i see yomm video i dislike

[true pivot]

yes pls dislike and unsubscribe

[median spade]

never

[true pivot]

nanawaah

i dont wanna gain more subs

until i become a dalao me no want famos

[normal sierra]

you hab like 2m already, I bet

[median spade]

10m sub

[normal sierra]

[median spade]

50 million billion soon

[true pivot]

[carmine roost]

Don't forget the mommy alt

[normal sierra]

[carmine roost]

It's the same person

[true pivot]

Phrolova Slapping

thats crazy

if i ever made animations i wouldnt be making sfw content on yt

[median spade]

real

[icy otter]

Dalao say he no dalao

Then what are other players

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1360894271552622623.webp?size=128&quality=lossless&name=smh_champ&animated=true

[median spade]

bad

[icy otter]

That includes you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072740014640865280.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PeepoLeave

[median spade]

ye

s

[icy otter]

Wtfrick

[true pivot]

better than me

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1443227734116663337.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=AngryPheeb&animated=true

[normal sierra]

at least he bans pilots, unlike you, fraud

[icy otter]

I need pilots

Who piloting low inv ice

Need that 222 555 no cub ref

[median spade]

low inv pilot...

what kind of world

[icy otter]

Ok no pilot just ref

Nuke gone

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

I can no longer tell if my inv is trash or the score

[sonic tide]

Im just casual

[normal sierra]

b-both

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1365784005378838559.webp?size=64&quality=lossless&name=Dead&animated=true

I'll post the fire

[true pivot]

hmm, non 3s wanshi

interesting

[median spade]

"fk whel" incoming

[carmine roost]

1 rot everyone

[stray siren]

Mid youtuber

[true pivot]

yes

please cancel that mf

[median spade]

exposing yomm coming soon

get the apology video ready

[sonic tide]

Nu i need ice ref

[fresh wave]

nanami memory sets for lightning and raydience?

[true pivot]

"im sorry chat"
plays music
"im really really sorry"
more music
"yknow, im so sorry ill show you how sorry i am"
starts screeching music

[true pivot]

dalao me no ref

[sonic tide]

But me casual

[median spade]

let me direct you to #📨・general-help then

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1310194043635896360.png?quality=lossless&name=kokowheeze&size=48

[rose yew]

There you go

[median spade]

wtf is this LOL

[rose yew]

[true pivot]

oh my god this is amazing

[verbal forge]

LMAO

[young badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388810141503197296/1445771450588856433/Omg.gif

[real jackal]

bro wtf is raydiance rot

[buoyant hornet]

Without sss teddy or with?

[real jackal]

with

ss0 bianca

[buoyant hornet]

@spiral merlin sss teddy ray bonka rot pls

[spiral merlin]

Just the same as always dodge cancel yellow except the last one before hold blue

Requires cottie at ss0

Whether you do 3 ults in one swap or not I have no idea

[buoyant hornet]

How many per swap

[celest drum]

What is vergil doing here

[spiral merlin]

Oh wait no need for 3

sss teddy

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah is it 255?

[spiral merlin]

I guess do 255

[carmine reef]

worgil is in like every ppc leaderboard bc he's just too op

[spiral merlin]

I got equal score with 22222 ngl

[real jackal]

i shoulda sss my vergil

[buoyant hornet]

What does vergil have to do with ray

[buoyant hornet]

oh

[real jackal]

bruh

[round lake]

His reign has came to an end

[buoyant hornet]

half of his ppc viability is locked behind sss veronica anyway

[celest drum]

Sss vergil and SSS+ probably a giant difference

[buoyant hornet]

And s+ yeah

[celest drum]

And bench yes also matters

[round lake]

Or rather, would come to an end soon

[buoyant hornet]

biblically accurate pepe

[spiral merlin]

Rose seems slow

[true pivot]

i cant wait for the

[celest drum]

My SSS can hardly get 11/10 hp of monzano with 1 rot

[spiral merlin]

Vergil prob still lives

[crystal rune]

vergil is faster than selena

at s+

and sss3

[true pivot]

nergilao and kenlao my beloved

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif?quality=lossless&name=dalao&size=48

[buoyant hornet]

Does the burana buff change that or is it still the same

[crystal rune]

in ppc no

[round lake]

Wym slow, Ros killed Huaxu just as fast

[spiral merlin]

Idk I just watched wz

[round lake]

A stronger Huaxu

[crystal rune]

selena overkills alot but shes limited by the fact she needs an enabler

[true pivot]

maybe when we get a phy breaker

[spiral merlin]

I guess she can go fast then

[round lake]

Aye she does seem kinda ass in WZ

[true pivot]

stacking that qte will be insane

[round lake]

Her Ult is like most of her dmg, so overkill

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly this mechanic is lowkey gonna ruin the game at high invest lmao

[round lake]

Pay to suffer

[true pivot]

1 throw of her spear and out comes 20 damage numbers with each over 3m

[true pivot]

fr its so bad

[buoyant hornet]

I wouldn't touch sss> dark or void with 10 foot pole if they don't make major changes in beta

[true pivot]

its gaping 3s and below invest even more

[round lake]

6 DV was a mistake

[spiral merlin]

I don’t think the qte thing will change

[celest drum]

Alisa qte restores glacio tank thing

6dv

[spiral merlin]

This is very clearly what kuro has been doing since lucia

[round lake]

We should kill Kusogames

[true pivot]

pay more mald less

[buoyant hornet]

Amp qte reset was the one and only acceptable balanced QTE qol they should've added

Whatever tf breaker sss does + 6pc dv is all garbage

[spiral merlin]

Pay more mald more

[round lake]

U know what, I'm actually afraid that SS Ros would be Vero tier because that SSS passive is like 99% of her power

[spiral merlin]

Qte bot lol

[buoyant hornet]

It's not even just malding it's just qte simulator

Sounds extremely unfun

[true pivot]

shes more of a nuker than a wave clearer

[buoyant hornet]

I don't wanna play guild battle in warzone

[round lake]

The best QTE bot to ever exist

[spiral merlin]

If even s+ rose is qte bot

Idk

Cooked

[round lake]

(At SSS)

[true pivot]

28.5m s+ qte rosetta bot

[spiral merlin]

Ye

[buoyant hornet]

Do we have confirmation yet on whether her field perm shreds dark

[round lake]

She has no shred field

[spiral merlin]

Need rose onfield dmg buff but like score skyrocket

[buoyant hornet]

She does

[true pivot]

she has like a 20% dark shred in her core, but other than that i dont see anything else

[spiral merlin]

The shred field is so weird I can’t make sense of it

[round lake]

Why am I seeing some ppl saying she has no shred field

[spiral merlin]

I’ve seen it where she clearly shreds without qte

[round lake]

Or atleast not the usual shred field like other gen 3 tank

[true pivot]

she doesnt seem to have phy/ts shred at all

[spiral merlin]

True

[buoyant hornet]

The whole breaker idea is garbage they should burn it down ngl

[spiral merlin]

She ts attacker

[true pivot]

shes like nanami, field on swap out, qte, and ult

[real jackal]

wtf does a breaker even do over a tank?

[spiral merlin]

Qte stacking and better debuff on matrix

[true pivot]

the only thing missing is her sig mem that gives dark radiation shred

like other tanks

wait no

other tanks sig mem lets their field apply elemental shred

[round lake]

Okay let's ignore their SSS passive, what can they even do at SS over a tank?

[spiral merlin]

Matrix debuff

[true pivot]

rosetta only applies... tank shred + 20% dark from her core passive...

[buoyant hornet]

matrix lightning basically

[round lake]

So a free built in matrix lightning

[true pivot]

instead of edb its edr

[buoyant hornet]

+10% edr shred for 4s after matrix proc yeah

[spiral merlin]

Scalable with resos

[buoyant hornet]

wait are you sure

[spiral merlin]

I’m p sure rose has the standard 45% dark shred too

[true pivot]

im not seeing it anywhere tho

gimmie a sec

[tame wagon]

Thx for the planner

[spiral merlin]

Uhh I saw +10% smth on ranks

Unless I’m crazy

[round lake]

As long as she has a field she'd still work as a fine QTE slave

[true pivot]

ranks have shred yes

but wheres her base

[spiral merlin]

Oh base idk didn’t see

I assumed 25

[round lake]

Is her shred field reduction locked to her sig mem like other tank

[spiral merlin]

Ye standard then

[true pivot]

huh 25

[spiral merlin]

It’s not there supposedly

[round lake]

Then she's quite gud, we could run 4 DV 4 Bath for example

[carmine reef]

already preparing her to be the best qte bot ever

[round lake]

Peak QTE slave

[spiral merlin]

Problem is we don’t know what’s going on with it

Sometimes it looks like it works and others not

[true pivot]

oh ok my bad

she does have 25 shred at base

[spiral merlin]

Ye

[true pivot]

the missing phy/ts shred though

is questionable

[spiral merlin]

Her role in ts isn’t to shred we know that now

[true pivot]

i guess its covered up by hanying, but then again...

[spiral merlin]

Ye

[round lake]

Well it's good since she's meant to be TS attacker in disguised and not fk up Hanging shred

[spiral merlin]

Rose is glorified ts attacker

[buoyant hornet]

@spiral merlindo you have the descriptions of sig and sig mem? mabye it's on sig or something

[round lake]

Funny way to kill Virgil

[true pivot]

the vergil replacement im so bloody happy

but... her dmg distribution is crap

[round lake]

I'd rather have Hanging killed but still

Must be too soon for that

[buoyant hornet]

yeah I just hope she's also not washed in dark

[buoyant hornet]

Leap TRUST

[spiral merlin]

It's not there like I said

Which is weird

[round lake]

Wahtever they're planning, just make Hanging less of a pain to play

[true pivot]

o wher u get that site

[buoyant hornet]

wtf are they thinking

[spiral merlin]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l1KkKgN0LrVBU5uCPYtHtom4N0QBc6n7i7wBlRZoSDo/edit?tab=t.57v5nutz30y2#heading=h.bctyforheqyu

[true pivot]

nice

[round lake]

They didn't think

[true pivot]

cant open it for some reason

cooked

[spiral merlin]

Huh

[buoyant hornet]

Like why are we regressing

[tame wagon]

Guys I farmed 16k vouchers should I invest them in teddy?

[buoyant hornet]

It'd be mad funny if ishmael ends up being better in low invest wz than rosetta

[spiral merlin]

Low invest?

Ish can perform pretty equal if not better at high invest

[buoyant hornet]

Idk 223 or something

[round lake]

She's safe invest, yes

[spiral merlin]

That’s the problem with rose qte bot

It’s just.. ishmael

[buoyant hornet]

See that's the problem they're throwing balance out the window entirely

[spiral merlin]

They messed up her dark dmg

[buoyant hornet]

Exactly

[tame wagon]

Also am thinking about buying both secret network files for a few extra vouchers before the reset

[buoyant hornet]

Except ishmael actually leaves dark shred field presumably

[round lake]

Ros skippable then?

It's a terrible joke but pls don't become true

[spiral merlin]

We know very well how ish shred field works yeah

[true pivot]

once ishmael could copy i knew she is the best value character, since she will never age

[spiral merlin]

We just need more concrete info on how rosettas works lol

[buoyant hornet]

Idk if they're being cryptic on purpose or what

[tame wagon]

Will I hit level 80 before pass ends am lvl 19 now

[true pivot]

isnt rosetta's like nanami

[spiral merlin]

I always recommend her to new players and I don’t even have to be biased about it

[spiral merlin]

Can’t tell

[true pivot]

ishmael is always numba wan in future investments

kinda crazy

[spiral merlin]

I expect nothing less from wife

They will surely buff rosetta

However

[tame wagon]

With free teddy Ishmael prob better than vera from the selector I think xd

[spiral merlin]

The fact that this kinda crazy score is doable with the breaker passive alone

It’s gonna be real hard to make rose more useful over ish to justify spending 60k+ bc

[round lake]

Damn

I cannot avoid pulling Ish after all huh

[spiral merlin]

Still too early to make conclusions since beta after all but

It’s hard to see another outcome as long as breaker stays as is

[round lake]

Would they really buff Ros knowing how broken Dark already is

[spiral merlin]

Unless they wanna make dark score 30m+

Exactly

[round lake]

But without a buff, she'd be trash for low invest

[spiral merlin]

And ish sss just clears by far at that point

[round lake]

Terrible situation

[true pivot]

the 3s gap is crazy as well though

[buoyant hornet]

I mean either she becomes a hot garbage unit or dark scores higher than all other elemenets, I think one of them is more reasonable than the other

[true pivot]

ss3 now gains breaker passive extension, and 3s gains qte charges, but it also has swap cd

[round lake]

higher than other ele is an understatement

[buoyant hornet]

What's annoying about this is it might mean my acc that happens to have ss3 ishmael will likely be forced to run ishmael over rosetta

Genuinely garbage

[true pivot]

well, theres no swap cd for ss3

so

you might still have to field time rosetta

[buoyant hornet]

The matrix extension

[round lake]

Kusogames fcked up big time

[true pivot]

oh ur not getting ss3 rosetta?

[buoyant hornet]

Or I could play the exact same way I do rn but with new passives, that's the issue

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1042015043065217035.png?quality=lossless&name=worrysetta&size=48

[spiral merlin]

Its gonna be so hard for them to make their way out of this hole

[buoyant hornet]

I'm f2p I can rarely afford extra stuff like this even after skipping dmc

[round lake]

Would it kill them to make a normal gen 3 Dark Tank

Now we're in this mess

[buoyant hornet]

The ish ss3 was a lucky arrival thing from saved pity over the past couple years

From accidental arrival pulls + the free ticket pull events they do

[true pivot]

[buoyant hornet]

Right lmfao they did not need to do all this

[true pivot]

its a gen 4 dark tank now

[buoyant hornet]

Just make her a dark tank that's stronger than nanami for example and we're good

No one asked for all this

[round lake]

I guess it's not Kusogames if they don't fck up everytime there's something new

[true pivot]

cant wait for the gen 4 attacker

[buoyant hornet]

Even without breaker class her sss would still be favorable and worth pulling for spenders

[round lake]

Alpha is gonna fck up even more

[buoyant hornet]

I think it's time for me to kiwi after kamui lmao

[round lake]

New class for Alpha, can quick swap twice every rot

[true pivot]

whats a name for a new type of attacker

[round lake]

[buoyant hornet]

All this garbage for what 😭

[round lake]

Destroyer

[buoyant hornet]

Teddy patch is the first good patch without horrible or greedy decisions since....literally selena

[true pivot]

uhh

3s teddy

[buoyant hornet]

Every patch after selena was weird in some way

[true pivot]

and the missions to get her

[round lake]

I'd say everything after Ish have been weird in one way or another

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't really matter she's still voucherable and the ticket missions are dumb but they only stall out the inevitable

[true pivot]

it matters much

[buoyant hornet]

You'll get all shop items from weekly missions eventually

[round lake]

Teddy is just better Dorm unit

[buoyant hornet]

So while it's an unnecessary detail it's not the end of the world

[true pivot]

barely keeping up is not good

[buoyant hornet]

Pretty much

[buoyant hornet]

The whole 10k ticket and 25k ticket thing is mad dumb lol

[round lake]

Dorm was far worse cause u gotta pull their Sig CUB

[buoyant hornet]

But yeah kuro had to add their sht sprinkle somewhere

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[round lake]

Atleast with this one, while still ass, gives u Sig CUB

[buoyant hornet]

I'm salty she doesn't give 20 shards like lilith's event

But it is what it is ig

[round lake]

Still a free patch unless u wanna speedup

They defo realized they were being too nice with Lilith

[true pivot]

everything went downhill from watanabe

[round lake]

Everything went downhill from Gen 2

Gen 1 was the shjt

[true pivot]

i dont think 3p + r is a good idea

[round lake]

Remember when WZ socre was the last of our concern?

[buoyant hornet]

Y'all are saying that but kuro will make gen4 so garbage that everyone will miss gen 2 and 3

[round lake]

Like beating Overspeed was already hard

Or even winning a fight in PPC at all

[slate gull]

just play the game how you like it

[round lake]

I think Ros is already a glimse of what's to come

[true pivot]

gen4 attacker now places tank and amp on the field so you now have 3 inputs to do for all characters

[round lake]

Well time to pull off from meta

[buoyant hornet]

I only care for meta in this but they've been making horrile decisions lately that break or make meta unfun

I still don't understand why they brought back mob zone on dmc patch

[true pivot]

we are in the #📨・meta-help

[buoyant hornet]

Like we had it good

Then we regressed

[round lake]

Gen 4 will make entire meta-help kiwi

[true pivot]

i love getting banged from all sides

[buoyant hornet]

And not only that, but new characters are all ill equipped to deal with mobs properly

[slate gull]

saved

[buoyant hornet]

Gen 2 chars all had ways to crowd control consistently

[round lake]

Mods gonna merge the two channels into good old gameplay help

[buoyant hornet]

Gen 3 units don't function properly on mobs

[round lake]

[stray siren]

I miss having to map my Dodges to activate Matrix

[buoyant hornet]

That's one part I don't miss but it had charm to it

Remember hanying rose balter phys with balter weather

Matrix malding on rose and echo lmao

[slate gull]

best phys team yet

[true pivot]

hanying saved phy and selena brought it down

man i hope the new phy amp is good enough

[real jackal]

entropy lee was peak phys gaming

[spiral merlin]

Literally everyone in phys is dragging the team down

[buoyant hornet]

It def aged but it was really fun

[slate gull]

kamui phys amp. trust me bro

[spiral merlin]

It’s crazy

[true pivot]

after alisa i expect a good phy amp

[spiral merlin]

Eternally shafted

Float, crit, no good units

[true pivot]

someone who doesnt take much mem space and deal good dmg

[spiral merlin]

If Selena buff took away dissonance we might be onto something

But it doesn’t so what’s even the point

[buoyant hornet]

I understand selena complaints but lowkey she's somehow still the least messy unit in phys imo

[stray siren]

There hasn't been another phys amp after Alisa

[tawdry bloom]

is dante completely powercrept now in ignition by nanami/vera/vero?

[spiral merlin]

I agree to an extent

[true pivot]

well the beta kinda removes her flower nerf if you do blue swap out

[slate gull]

correct

[buoyant hornet]

Hanying dmg outdated asf + core taps whiffing, veronica's shorot rot scattering mobs and long rot have a huge dmg dip when you start holding yellow

[true pivot]

yea, i wonder if she is gonna be next in line for age after daren lol

[sonic tide]

Should just commit hanying leap but no nothing

[spiral merlin]

With 111 phys rot, hanying’s only problem is missing ult which is not often, Veronica groups mobs for Selena, and Selena can deal with them pretty well

[buoyant hornet]

Hanying rot without ss3 selena nuke feels horrible in terms of breakpoints

overkill city

[spiral merlin]

111 phys is the best way to play the team

[true pivot]

whel

[spiral merlin]

And they can’t even let her do flower ult every swap still

[true pivot]

paking

[sonic tide]

111 yeah whel pak

[spiral merlin]

Yeah it’s whale rotation but it really is so much more fun to play

Removes a lot of issues the team has

[buoyant hornet]

I almost never miss ults anymore, I mash lock-on if a new wave spawns during her ult and it works

Also when I told Taishi about it he also said it helped reduce that problem for him

[true pivot]

i love it when selena misses her last hit on hold dodge

[buoyant hornet]

I wonder if 2.322 can do it

[spiral merlin]

You would not believe the amount of of times my hanying ult misses despite me trying to hold directions and press lock on lol

[true pivot]

i cant change lock on anymore for some reason

[spiral merlin]

She’s blind for me

[timber umbra]

Okay, I have everything for Elemental Resistance sets memorised my friends

[buoyant hornet]

I rarely whiff entire ults BUT sometimes the initial multi slash hitbox at the start of the anim randomly whiffs

[spiral merlin]

I forget what sss does for her ngl it’s been so long

[timber umbra]

Elemental Sets: Have 8s uptime and 10s cooldown and they all Reduce RES by 15%. Einsteinas trigger effect is by QTE, 3 ping and Elemental Sets trigger is by attacking and being on field

[buoyant hornet]

for whom exactly

[true pivot]

i have to manually move and shift my cam so that the lock on changes, anyone has this issue?

[timber umbra]

Did I get this correct?

[spiral merlin]

Naur her core is super accurate for me

[spiral merlin]

Selena

[timber umbra]

O yes, the Elemental Sets 4pc effect resets for the enemies and has different uptimes

They don’t all have the same uptime

[buoyant hornet]

Used to have it on like, lucia patch when they broke targeting but it got fixed later for me

[timber umbra]

[buoyant hornet]

Didn't reinstall or anything tho

[true pivot]

mines broke like crazy

[buoyant hornet]

What lockon mode do you use?

[true pivot]

manual

[timber umbra]

Yes, the uptime is 8s but if you’re are in a warzone run then the enemies uptime would be like this if you didn’t attack them all in AOE: 8-7-6 and timer pauses when you are in time stop

[true pivot]

ive always been using that

i can just change targetting during tlc

[buoyant hornet]

Extra hold basic stacks + blue orb dmg buff primarily (alongside other dmg buffs)

[true pivot]

now i cant even

[spiral merlin]

Ouchie yea prob cooked for ss3

[buoyant hornet]

I can try 111 with ss3 selena by doing 2 hold dodge or something

[spiral merlin]

2 hold dodge?

[true pivot]

1.5 hy probs, since field zaza or smthin

[buoyant hornet]

hold dodge 6 white hold dodge

[spiral merlin]

But that’s slow af

[buoyant hornet]

Although I don't see that being beneficial

Because ss3 double rot selena just spread damage better

[true pivot]

like wut is dis

do i have to reinstall

its a torture playing ion mob with this not working

[buoyant hornet]

This was what happened to me during sync

[spiral merlin]

The problem is playing ion in the first place

[true pivot]

was testing against glow

[buoyant hornet]

I use advanced, try and if it doesn't work then reinstall prolly

[buoyant hornet]

Glow mob is garbage yeah

[true pivot]

used manual for the ion-ish buggy stuff

[buoyant hornet]

Enemy scatter goes crazy

[spiral merlin]

Glow mob goated

Whar

It just score that’s ass

Since mob ion curse

[true pivot]

i ran out of sp

[timber umbra]

I changed my Dark WZ score to 5.2mil by the way

So close to 37 waves

[buoyant hornet]

Idk if your invest fields nanami but mine ends up with a lot of issues because of her

[true pivot]

i gave up and just full send dark

[buoyant hornet]

She moves so far away and sometimes scatters mobs

[spiral merlin]

Nanami does 1 normal rota on swap in

[timber umbra]

I want to hit 40 waves but…

[true pivot]

magma is whel 3s

[timber umbra]

It’s a dream

[buoyant hornet]

Not a "lot of" issues but like

It's not exactly consistent

It's not as horrible as some other mob zone teams

[true pivot]

ice mob wz

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/860803902831591444.gif?quality=lossless&name=QuReee&size=48

[spiral merlin]

Nanami in mob is only really a problem in light tbh

You can get away with missing some stuff here

It often doesn’t matter

Bianca gathers like crazy anyways

[timber umbra]

Do we think I am ready to move onto study another new memory set my friends?

[true pivot]

im still hating wanshi as of now, he is so so so painful to mald

[timber umbra]

Here is the full Elemental Set information:
Elemental Set

Set Users: Heisen,Shakespeare,Chen,Patton,Bathlon

Increase ATK by 3% and Elemental DMG by 7%. Extra DMG Bonus increases by 10%. Attacking a target will inflict them with (Frost,Burn,Electrocute,Impale,Corruption) depending on the element, reducing their Elemental Resistance by 15% for 8s (10s cooldown). Attacking targets affected by (Frost,Burn,Electrocute,Impale,Corruption) will trigger an Explosion that deals 600% Elemental DMG (6s cooldown on the same target).

Summary: 3% ATK 7% Elemental DMG, Attack target -> Apply (Frost,Burn,Electrocute,Impale,Corruption) = 15s RES 8s 10s cooldown, (Frost,Burn,Electrocute,Impale,Corruption) Explosion 6s cooldown

Note: This set uptime is different for every enemy and the uptime pauses only when in time stop.

I have it all recorded in my brain too now

[true pivot]

why u need all this info for? malding?

[timber umbra]

Yes, I am preparing for malding stage

[buoyant hornet]

The issue isn't nanami herself whiffing but her moves sometimes carrying her to the other side of the stage or scattering mobs then bianca sometimes swaps in on a scattered wave and fails to gather, in my case I have to do slam ult full ult because no cd reduction

[spiral merlin]

Are u allegro

[slate gull]

preparing to go bald

[buoyant hornet]

So blue orbs on 2nd rot can cause issues with positioning

[timber umbra]

I want to mald

[timber umbra]

?

Music note?

[spiral merlin]

[spiral merlin]

Weirdge her mob issues are never usually that big for me

[timber umbra]

What are you all discussing about?

I want to indulge myself in this topic too

Nonetheless if we go to my checklist I am now at..

Checklist:
Da Vinci: ✅
Einstina: ✅
Guinevere: ✅
Catherine ✅
Philip ✅
Gloria: ✅
Elemental Resistance Sets: Shakespeare, Heisen, Bathlon, Chen, Patton ✅
Samantha ✅
Lantern
Darwin
Frederick

It’s time to learn Lantern

[buoyant hornet]

Might also have to do with me lacking experience with the team so I lacked some position awareness

[slate gull]

forget lantern pak

[carmine reef]

you will never have lantern

what's the point

[timber umbra]

I do have Lantern

[carmine reef]

wtf

[slate gull]

wtf

[carmine reef]

i hate boomers

so you've been playing this game for half a decade and just now decided to learn basics huh

[timber umbra]

I never used Lantern though

[buoyant hornet]

Zex did you actually do 5.7m glow or was that just dark

[carmine reef]

dark

[timber umbra]

Yes, I just clear warzone, spam qte, get demoted or defender

[buoyant hornet]

Figured

[timber umbra]

But now..

[carmine reef]

ray score is like 5.1m or 5.2

[timber umbra]

I want to be promoted

[carmine reef]

3 rot per swap

i did test 2 as you mentioned and it's just objectively worse in every way

[slate gull]

"new year, new me"

[buoyant hornet]

Either you played completely different from me or ss3 bianca is that broken in glow

[carmine reef]

even taking dlt off for ga it's still much worse

[timber umbra]

After performing a 3-Ping or QTE skill, releases a lantern to follow the character on field, increasing the ATK and Movement Speed of nearby allies by 7% for 15s. 30s cooldown.

That’s all?

[timber umbra]

Preciselyyy

[spiral merlin]

ss3 Bianca is a massive jump in glow

The extra 3p is a wave clearer

[carmine reef]

the team is so goddamn boring though

[buoyant hornet]

I tested a lot of stuff and 2rot was never a better scoring one

[timber umbra]

Isn’t this 5 star ATK Einsteina?

[carmine reef]

ray bianca is just as inflexible as she is mundane

[spiral merlin]

First time in a long time we have a relatively issue free team

I like it

[carmine reef]

huh

i would not say issue free

[spiral merlin]

Relatively

[timber umbra]

And 15s instead of 8s and 30 cooldown instead of 10s

[simple dew]

wanshi is an issue on his own

[buoyant hornet]

Shred and atk are completely different things lol

[simple dew]

[carmine reef]

a lot of times the "issues" come from potential skill expression tricks

[timber umbra]

Of course, of course

[carmine reef]

ray has none of that cause there's nothing you can do

[timber umbra]

I took that too considering my friend

Worry not

[carmine reef]

the rot is inflexible and if the breakpoints are bad there's like nothing you can do about it

[timber umbra]

I talked about the similarities to Einsteina because of how they both trigger the set the same way

3 ping and QTE

[buoyant hornet]

Try wanshi without dlt and you'll take that back

[spiral merlin]

There’s a very fine line between skill expression and bad design

[timber umbra]

I apologise if I didn’t make sense at my first sentence. I like to look at things in similar to ways to record the information in my brain

[carmine reef]

sure

[spiral merlin]

What where’s wanshi in this

[true pivot]

its not that bad

[carmine reef]

but i would still prefer janky kit that allows for skill expression over none at all

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1339359623161053377.png?quality=lossless&name=CLUELESS&size=48

[buoyant hornet]

I thought you were talking about ice for some reason 🤡

Brain did a hard reset

[spiral merlin]

Teddy my goat

[buoyant hornet]

I need to go back to sleep

[true pivot]

dltless wanshi isnt that bad trust me

[carmine reef]

too bad she can't be the goat in ray

[spiral merlin]

A little jank but nothing I would consider an issue

[carmine reef]

like

[buoyant hornet]

Her ray gameplay is ??????

[slate gull]

wait

[buoyant hornet]

"""gameplay"""

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/kilgore-trout-vonnegut-pgr-gif-4279542929829929692

[buoyant hornet]

What were they thinking

[slate gull]

so wanshi uses dlt now

[carmine reef]

i understand that if you're going to make an affix that's "enabler and then pure dps" format, it's better to have it stripped down to the barebones like teddy is, but

it didn't have to be that format

[buoyant hornet]

If you wanna 3ult consistently without malding orb rng yeah

[spiral merlin]

Technically not but he should if you want to preserve your sanity

[carmine reef]

i really wish they could have made it something more like ignition in terms of team rotation

[slate gull]

makes sense

[spiral merlin]

I agree

[buoyant hornet]

Kamui ray tank trust

[timber umbra]

Lantern Summary Summary: QTE/3 ping = Lantern (7% ATK and Movement speed to nearby) 15s 30s cooldown

[spiral merlin]

I hate the enabler and dps dynamic

[carmine reef]

i'm just really pissed that teddy does literally nothing in ray because i was really holding out hope for that after bianca release

cause i knew damn well i would not be happy if bianca gameplay was all there was to it

[timber umbra]

It’s Darwin time

[buoyant hornet]

It's what killed ion and glacio in the first place

[timber umbra]

Darwin is the memory set with orbs, yes?

[buoyant hornet]

Aged like milk

[spiral merlin]

What hurts about glacio is it tries to be what burn is

But fails miserably

[distant wren]

[timber umbra]

Qu, Ayla, Bianca use Darwin

[carmine reef]

even glacio is better off about this than raydiance

[timber umbra]

Ayla used to use Darwin

[true pivot]

you should not use dlt to get rid of your sanity

[carmine reef]

ayla did not used to use darwin

unless you sucked

[buoyant hornet]

EDB buff on orbs, stacks up to 5 times (5 total orbs consumed, 15% edb maximum)

[spiral merlin]

[carmine reef]

the correct way to play ayla dps was always cottie

darwin was the skill issue copout

[buoyant hornet]

def

[timber umbra]

That’s all?

[distant wren]

what you don't like "peak" braindead gameplay almost full solo?

[spiral merlin]

Ayla wasn’t even really fun without cottie either

[timber umbra]

Oh! Oh.

[carmine reef]

also true

[buoyant hornet]

That's the 2pc yeah, 4pc set is garbage not even worth mentioning

[true pivot]

cottie meta was beeg for a time

[timber umbra]

I watched a guide video and the video said Darwin so I used to use Darwin on Ayla

[timber umbra]

Yes, I just read it and I am

[carmine reef]

braincells sloughing off till i turn into kev

[timber umbra]

silent about it.

Shockwave

[spiral merlin]

Nothing like watching pgr ccs to get information

Truly a treasure trove

[timber umbra]

Rework Darwin 4pc

[timber umbra]

Oh yes

[slate gull]

when pgr eos

[buoyant hornet]

Imagine

[true pivot]

hi wher do i go on yt to get info to mald wz

[timber umbra]

Okay, Darwin learnt

[distant wren]

volskyius channel

[spiral merlin]

I sure do love my ishmael tank set

[carmine reef]

i hear narushio is pillar of the community

[distant wren]

best channel

[true pivot]

i am gonna punch you

[slate gull]

goat

[buoyant hornet]

Klaige trust

[distant wren]

pls

[true pivot]

i love their pillar of the community

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/860818646724640770.gif?quality=lossless&name=SolonBuff1&size=48

[slate gull]

i thought that pillar broke down?

[distant wren]

real, the longer the guide the better

[spiral merlin]

omg solons pillar real

[true pivot]

wasnt one of the guide like 5 hours long

[buoyant hornet]

Do his ishmael rot and you'll get 20m score at ss0 trust

[timber umbra]

This is Darwin, yes? Orb ping = EDB 3% 4s (5 orbs consumed) = 15%

[carmine reef]

1m for each 1m of the video

[timber umbra]

I’m finally at the last meta memory

Frederick

[slate gull]

whut

[buoyant hornet]

Yes and 3pings count as 3 orbs ofc

[timber umbra]

Ok, thank you

[buoyant hornet]

But orbs like wanshi's special orb and wata's blaze orb don't count, the orb needs to be "consumed"

[true pivot]

sounds like a classic pgr gimmick, for every 1min it increases by 1min, up to 1min. this cap can be increased by 1min every 1min

[buoyant hornet]

damn 50m score incoming

[timber umbra]

Thank you for this note.

Okay!

[buoyant hornet]

His veronica guide was spectacular (the entire burn segement was total misinfo)

[timber umbra]

It’s time to quiz me folks

[distant wren]

klaige so good he got 140m for darkflow

[timber umbra]

Ask me questions about memory

[distant wren]

[timber umbra]

I will answer them

[carmine reef]

ok

[timber umbra]

[true pivot]

what happened lol

[carmine reef]

how many items can the human brain hold in working memory

[timber umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1449005785982959677/B2876463163612CD09277C99217305F4.gif

3-5

[buoyant hornet]

Said veronica did no damage in ignition and isn't worth fielding at all

[carmine reef]

wrong

go back to studying

[true pivot]

???????????

[slate gull]

okay sarastro here's a question

[timber umbra]

no

[timber umbra]

ok

please be about pgr memory

[slate gull]

why are memory recommendations in-game suck so much?

[timber umbra]

that’s my focus

[timber umbra]

because ..

[carmine roost]

I do suck so much too

[buoyant hornet]

That was one week after he flamed setsu for apparently not doing enough "research" as a content creator lol

[timber umbra]

because their art looks good

[indigo dirge]

When playing Teddy, I started with Lilith and somehow when I switched into Teddy her ult was immediately available but I don't know what I did. Is there a way to trigger it w/o the initial 3 ping?

[timber umbra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/966217142473211954/1154104007741153341/SelenaJamBut.gif

[carmine reef]

for anyone curious the answer to my question was 7, plus or minus 2

[timber umbra]

ask me a question about the memory sets uptimes and how much resistance they give

come on people

let’s go! let’s go!

[spiral merlin]

If you do 3 ults off field after finishing prev teddy rot with 3 stack ult, she ults immediately

[timber umbra]

how much atk a memory set gives

[carmine reef]

she gains 75 energy (1/3 charge) for every ultimate someone else on the team casts

[distant wren]

it's dalao knowledge, we wouldn't get it

[carmine reef]

and if you swap in and she has enough energy for ult1, she auto casts it

i think that's tied to sig though

[timber umbra]

i will ask a question for myself then

[carmine reef]

don't completely remember

[spiral merlin]

Except in the niche case where she doesn’t have enough before swap in, does have enough after swap in

Curse you kuso games

[true pivot]

HUH??????

[indigo dirge]

I'm doing clash reflection and it was right at the start of one of the matches

[spiral merlin]

Killed cottie zaza

[timber umbra]

how much seconds does the 20% dv buff uptime last and how much cd?

2s and 10s

2seconds

[carmine reef]

clash reflection saves your energy

from round to round

[indigo dirge]

Lilith SSS, Teddy 3s btw

[carmine reef]

so that's why

[buoyant hornet]

I sometimes forget some of them lowkey despite being a ppc malder too

[timber umbra]

its okkk! you can learn with me, fear not my friend

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/966217142473211954/1154104007741153341/SelenaJamBut.gif

[indigo dirge]

Ah that's why..I didn't know that. Thanks!

[true pivot]

if 5hr vid = good guide i sleep for 13 hours where the energy go

[timber umbra]

whos qte gets pinged first if dv split?
a) the dv holder
b) the einsteina set holder

the answer is b

[carmine reef]

i mean

not necessarily

[timber umbra]

no, no my bad

if dv split tank first

[buoyant hornet]

wdym hmm

[spiral merlin]

Help my dv on wata

[carmine reef]

i think you should just not bother making rules for yourself like this

[slate gull]

what if the dv holder is also holding einsteina, watchu goinna do now sarastro?

[carmine reef]

everything is situational and you will often find different memories on different units at different times

trying to force yourself into these rules will just constrict yourself

[timber umbra]

if full dv (2 qte at same time) it doesn’t matter because you get the 20% and 10% atk

[timber umbra]

you ping the healer set qte first if dv split

yes, you’re right zeaxous

[carmine reef]

see this is still not correct

[distant wren]

wata not shredding no matter what

[indigo dirge]

For Teddy what is the current rotation between doing full ult vs fast ult? I think red orbs do more damage for the short version

[distant wren]

[timber umbra]

oh no

[carmine reef]

if you split off healer set you might not trigger 4guin correctly

[timber umbra]

it depends on the team

[spiral merlin]

Consistency is key

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly I think you should focus instead on field practice and training yourself you observe the buff and debuff icons in the UI during runs, theoretical information comes next

[carmine reef]

yeah

[timber umbra]

ok yes

[carmine reef]

trying to come up with hard rules for situations in this way is pointless

[timber umbra]

i remember them all

parasol is gui

[carmine reef]

there will always be a situation where your rules are wrong

[timber umbra]

the hammer one is einsteina

the elemental sets are all memorised