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What invest and tier
its 2. ,
df best when wata 3, get from standard lucky or selectors, however spend vouchers on teddy
Is radiance good? Or is the zone bs this rotation
2.332 323
Ys
More doable 11 need to do it 
Leg

Damn ss3 Lucia stronk
forgor qte nuke
Lmao

Pyrowashed
selena qte nuke saves live
Can I fodder Qu's weapon for Teddy reso now?
Vergil qte saves lives


Dmbrick
If brick why good 
Can I double QTE Pyro after proccing DV reset?
Ultima bad
Yea, pyro, dv, pyro
may have to wait a lil tho
like .5s
shi long asf

it's not even ray zone tbh, just ion
ice duo
dork/ion mobs
hey i have phantom pain watch it
Some enemies are tankier now....
Dark š , im sorry but I will not play your rot bianca, my dark skills are bricked asf. I keep missing the 5 ult rot
not worth building ray unless you actually do ib ppc
you have her 3s? works better then, just do the braindead 3x3r
i do
Why plasma so bums rnš š š
3p > 3p > dod > 3p > Hold A > pre-hold ult
bricks
cuz mobs + old affix
Itās also Bianca arena
do 3p d 3p d hba instead
faster
fix those scored probably
They score so low....
7
so he's scoring less than the worse version 
then tap red again during zoom?

yh tap both red and ult or red then ult wtvr you prefer
should be able to follow that
finally a translated version, Im tired reading russian
you can read russian?

me demot I hate phys
What is Teddy loadout?
Goodluck overkilling in ray
U would have promoted from 20m dark alone

4 sig 4 Guin?
Is there no overkill in leg
Even in legend am still overkilling by tons
No problem for me
Bro my 444 is barely 1373w 
What wave
W46
why 670 
Yeah itās ass
I don't but its frustrating I need to rely on picture to tell whats the next move and my brain hate that if the language is not on my vocab list
oooo I haven't seen this tyty 
Hold blue is fine but her ult is like Veraās
I will dalao and 7m with 2s bonca
Underkill by .1s and you lose all of the dmg
Watch
omg homelesslao 
Why donāt I have swtoh

that's braindead run idk what I was doing just ping ping ult 
need sleep, vacation tiring
Maybe a sub emote?


@noble zinc proud of me?
Feel like 95% there and tired of malding fire, just few second too slow for lucia slash ender
@noble zinc u up?
Cooked
maybe nukelao sleeping
Hes asia
ah
Let jit have a wonderful morning
Hes buying milk
I remember my sibling showing me that their friend bought jianxin banana milk



Im opening up
Proud of you student
Yes
Wait
Ok im ready

Ok i cant catch up to u
Now?
as a beginner for my blue target banner what s rank hsould i focus on getting and what s rank from the free selector should i pick?
5
4
3
2
Does Teddy really replace Qu?
1
Seems yes
Who u

Won't tell 
Skem

Now i wont mald

You can retain still your acc strong enough 
Help on Glacio rot please
Guys, is there any other teams with qte rotations by the way?
Iām starting to lean on QTE rotation teams where the QTE itself has a rotation starting from Glaciation
Pray
Unless it's among known ones or else ded
Fire 12
Ice 10

I sleep
Join
No
Yes
Pls
That's ice
U guys gonna demote me 
š
Noo, itās Glaciation
Nuke dominates
Do you remember what wave was that 8.2m

Nooo, itās Celica training class stage with dummy that hits
I suck ice, last night one tap only 9.3m 
Watch my video
you messed me up in silksong no
Huh
No I mean you want to learn glacio just cuz ?
Then can tell
If u ppc lao then ur wz lao too
I mean it's not glacio zone rn so said
For the upcoming Glaciation warzone in who knows when
Sure wait
Thank youu!
Wait for 2 months later
What rank team that
2.333 311 SScub Scub SSS+deer
all I remember is bear was wave 40, my apologies
Damn
There's no such thing as qte rotation
Proper qte timing comes along with each individual team optimal rotation
Allow me to introduce a new term for our guide makers. The QTE rotation: A QTE rotation is where the QTE itself has a rotation just like the constructs rotation. For example, a Glaciation warzone in that video follows a QTE Rotation it too has itās own rotation on itās individual teams.
quick one tap now back to waiting for reset
Yes, do any other team follow this?
Follow "this" what
How do I put it? Uhh..
If you watch my video you can see that the QTE Timings are the same for every rotation
You're making things way more layered than the average players can comprehend
Kind of..
This plasma wz is so ass
Thanks to @volskyius for letting me try on his acc. Cub and resos invest made a hell of a lot difference. This strat cannot be used on my own acc with lower resos at all, as the early wave breakpoints were really important to get through. If you want to check out the run on my own acc with less resos here it is https://youtu.be/LIC-94Czv-s
SS3 ...
generational fumble, i should have done core into 6 concerto on selena's 2nd last swap to play it safe
anyway mobs is so fucked up, everything is in wanshi's hand if he decides to hit all the mobs properly otherwise its insta restart
Weather: Harrowing Freeze (60% Glacio DMG on 3Ping)
SS3 Selena R3 SS cub | 4 Burana 4 Klenova (6 Atk + 6 Core)
...
Fluc : 366
Weather : Character deals 60% more Glaciation DMG for 8s after every 3-ping. Duration resets every time it is triggered
Notes :
- cant kill w32 without selena's hold attack dmg and need to save qte for last hold dodge. This ate some of my time which lead to amp buff expiring on flower ult. Could def kill w35 with amp buff and chip ...
Can't you just make that basically integrated to the rotation itself?
Yess
Rather than making things up
An actual optimal qte timing will almost never be the same across rotation
There's always space for adjustment
getting kissed by a goth mommy is a one time opportunity
Ss3 glacio got multiple variations
One your using will work or not/better or not will vary on zones
These 3 like all went peak can see what suits you
Qte timings will also wil depend there no practice on dummy for it
Debuff memories also abuses proper qte timing for better coverage
You don't just fixated qte use and call it perfection
S3S3 df liv rotation?
It's a higher level of adjustment in a team rotation
Part of the later minmaxing technique
Got it
You can just make fixated qte use for a rotation guide
But that's the furthest you can bring it to
guys... r1 vera or r2 nana?
Vera
R1 vera
alrighty thanks
ah right... got it
Happens to everyone
I just suck
Wanshi is the easiest one to me
You're just late getting to it
Either practice it more and eventually be good at it, or just be average
wanshi fraud tbh
Not much to do anyway
I watch videos like Setsu,Nuke,Rydle and I see them all saying dv split, dv, apply eins, apply explosion and iām like āwhat?ā
||Ano sabi mo?||
did i freakin stutter my man?
At that point you just have to try it yourself and see what actually it is rather than fabled by an example already
||sabihin mo ulit||
Practice is the best learning method
Understand or not that'd be on you
But at least you tried
si wanshi ay isang mandaraya kapag wala ang kanyang signaturang sandata
@noble zinc did you tried fire hero yet?
How much 2.032.0 213 can get rn 
Na score is brick, need sea
9.5 around should be if sea taking
Hero?
I assume this is hero
If w40 is bear, then w41 touch should give me 9m
I do I know that the 6 star memory resistance reduction memorys reduce elemental resistance by 15% and all have a 10s cooldown and did practice but Iām missing a lot still š

Sighs
Getting familiar with the fixed rot first is an easier way to learn optimization
Compared to separately trying different adjustments from the first attempt
Iām watching a Setsugekwa video again now
"I don't fear the man who mastered 1000 punches, but feared the man who practiced a punch 1000 times"
Type shi
True..
Lao what the fluc looking like for sea this week?
Was that Tysonās line



Bricked
365
Oh so the wave level is good
Not for my standards
Smh invisible RNG 
Na is behind sea by 500k by wave 35 lmfao
It's only getting worse at higher

Check the bear numbers cuz me already saw smthing 3bear back to back 
Wave 3 bear
Bear good for score but bad for malding
As well
what if you had uranium at your home
Jump start getting difficult
Yeah, I remember sea started to stack bear after bear past wave 30, unlike na
Depends on the isotope
They're cooked this week
yeah but without the outer core
Ngl, bear feels good to mald
Not much overkilling
if you're lacking dmg that's just
issue
Bear can jump and dodge your entire ult dmg; hitting bearās shield gives you an aneurysm amount of hit-lag; bear can suplex you out of your combo
etc etc.
If feels great to mald dark when there's many bears
Bonca ult isn't missing a lot on no shred wave cuz all of it are tanked by bear
Isn't that just 

If you're letting a bear jump in your run, something is really wrong 
Getting hit is common, but not breaking bear shield that fast is brick
Some breakpoints happen like that, like a slight pause between combos during bearās jump
Youre clearly not beating the living sht out of the bear enough
At least now that more character has more iframe, that shouldn't be a problem anymore
Surely

Hitting the shield messes up specific timings. For example, Biancaās hold BA timing gets delayed, making it easier to mess up the 5 ult combo
I'm talking about the yellow shield bar
Thatās the thing, the bear can ignore built in I-frames
That you can knock the bear after it's gone so it doesn't jump
I hope my next smartwatch could play pgr
Enemies have RNG as to what moveset theyāll do, so itās totally possible for a bear to jump immediately on spawn and messes up your run randomly 
Like i said you aren't beating them hard enough

Yeah I know. Tremendous hit lag
Teddy Spectre Cub or SS3
SS3 (character has higher prio than cub, but youāll get both for free anyways so be patient)
Why's that a question 
Can you just get ss3 later?
It's free

Look at the bigger picture. It aināt about beating one bear on one wave fast enough, itās about the whole run. If the most optimal breakpoint falls on bear running idle for 2 sec, then the jump/suplex is gonna happen sometimes. We canāt really control it except adjusting QTE or the rot a bit. However, since itās RNG, runs are gonna differ, and we canāt anticipate how to adjust before we start a run
both
??? š
I do not understand why it's one or the other LMAO
Probably only have service currency for one of the two and deciding.
But yeah, donāt worry as youāll get both eventually 
Oh I should make sure I bought my voucher shards before the new year hits š
Good reminder
Make those vouchers rain, make it rain King 
I wonder if I can ss3 as soon as the new month starts
Really?
Damn Ray is washed already
I still can't get over how last time df ran it was worse than my fire
Ah itās over-killing 
Front-loaded dmg huh
Shame
I'm glad they stopped ignoring feedback on bad ult distributions
Teddy ult was garbage in v1
And it got changed
Ray Bonca donāt run Cottie tho
Thereās gonna be a lot of elbowing happening
She doesn't?
You are still vulnerable during yellow ping 
You dodge all of it anyways
What happened to her needing cottie in wz 
Ig the weird shadow fix they did to her energy
btw do you run 2 Fran or 2 Darwin
Actually worked
The Ćnly time where youāre really vulnerable is before you ult
Becsuse you need to do 3p
Darwin
Itās tight tho

I think my run was flawed
Missed Darwin a few times Probably
she's tight indeed
Iāll do on pc later
323 plasma here i com 
Sucks that Darwin doesnāt have buff icon 

Are you saying low invest Bonca is winning against nornal wave?
Let's gooooo
believe it
Non enhanced can't
Enhanced state definitely will

Is the stack only boost her blue?

I never looked at her
Boosts her ult
Oh
Blue stays the same
Also blue deals a bit higher damage no?
That felt weird
No
Ult is super buffed
Ah
Well maybe for ss0
The Mandela effect is real with this one

U talks about ray in ionzone?
For 3S Bianca, her Ray rot is still ult dmg > blue ping dmg right?
Mayhaps
I wanna do light
In the later waves they both can clear 2-3 waves each on their own as well
Well for s+ at least

Who says you can't just do that
Heeyaaaw
Cuz Iām thinking if we should reso blue orb on memory rather than atk for Ray Bianca
Idk how I feel about blue ult
Large part of her dmg is ult
But then again 90% of it misses

Maybe a mix of blue/atk and atk/ult?
I'm obligated
Idk, needs cooking
Yeah thats no matter
Just giving me enought score to defend and i good
Surly this week i face agains 2 whels
Last week was too slack
16 could have been
Laoš (couldāve blue > dodge > hold BA > ult1 for double QTE but still Lao)
Too tight

Hold BA can be 1 frame but I get it, donāt risk the end game
Ah
see timer

Where timer?

Top right
Nude
Me slow run did only 

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time to hw copy

Ok so
TF is wrong with warzone
Why are they even mentioning Raydiance and Darkflow when the zones clearly aren't for them

kuro on vacation.
What darkflow
Also this week ion zone, which is also basically ray zone
so ion doesnt exist anymore 
Ion so bad ray easily scoring higher
Not for SS0 tbf

I'll just plasma
They're mixing up shi rn
A dark stage will serve you "significant increase on dark, slight increase on Darkflow"
And a Darkflow stage will go "slight increase of dark, significant increase of darkflow"
I think it's pretty much apply to every stage by this point

This physically hurts me, Iām filing a law suit 
two back to back bears on cn at the start
now they'll suffer too
As much as they say this
What is the team y'all use in entropic distortion? Or rather what is the best team to use?
what
They still hasn't take off the dmg reduction on affix dmg
So Glacio is still kinda pointless in ice
every elemental stage now has a slight affix buff?
Apparently yeah
Dark or plasma?
So them put it on every zone now
So ray in light get both plasma and light buff
We got 2 
Scoring seems near same this time
Or a bit better for us
Raydiance
CLUELESS
The real question is actually how much is this said buff
It has only slightly improvement, and I don't have teddy

Yep
Is that even buffs at all tho
Still saving up resources
I mean using correct element gives you 2x dmg in warzone yes
Well the best thing to do is just try both
Wdym try both 
Not talking to you
Kinda time consuming, so I guess I'll still try
I didn't want to see my 233 113 Glacio only did 2.7m in hero
I just do light this week
Im felt bad about ss3 teddy
Just unlock teddy and slap level 1 memory on her, you only need her for class and Gaydiance stacks
What light
Any glow team rot samples now that we hav teddy?
She does exactly 1 dmg in Gaydiance zone
Ohh forgor
I have whel team
Like a qte bot?
Yes
Only Bianca and nana that actually does something
But you still need to swap to teddy for Gaydiance stack
Bianca needs it
Yea
She swap in for like 2 sec every rot
What's the rot? Start with her then bianca and nanami?
Swap in teddy>tap yellow orb 2x>swap out
Feels low 
Literally her entire rot
Did you skipped vera or what
It's that bad? 
Cuz vera score is 6.5m minimum rn
(6m if na/eu
)
Am still an old timer using Pyr dps
Whats bonca rot?
Me with 5.8 full meta team:
So you did skip vera
Idk

I'll do my warzone and check
So ss0+sss wata that bad
Or its ss0 wata to
Use 4 shakes 4 cottie vera
Exactly
Tf dv guin vera
Dark/Plasma
I told you old timer
Its ez
Takes 5-10 mins
Stuck in the past
Dv vera smh


Same rot just u 2x dodge when start consume guage with hba
Why the hell do they even say "yea Glaciation effect damage slightly increases for ice zone"
Like dude, no one will use it anyways and global can't read. If you do this they'll use Glaciation and then nag

Oh, you don't have any of their cub too?
As you can see in the pic, no 
At least slap some yuanye of em dawg
Free defend
Also if then want to use that need to change how not getting the 0.3 debuff
Cub costy when u have to pull 1 for each unit
Just yuanye it bro
:trustme:
Me too

Damn mod lying 
Any lmao
Yuanye is a fire cub that provides your character with fire buff...

I didn't had any way to spend in-game
So I'm F2P

Me 
The mm i see glacio insta sele team 
It's too late for me to fix fire rn but I'll slowly do when k*mui drop 
suuure 
Yea
It's fine dw

Nuke help I have the speed hax now but Wata finding every way to grief me
Missing ults
And Vera ult1, core, ult2 0 shred

I hate Wata
Then qhy
That's said qte timings to your wave kill time
That feeling need
Cuz sometimes he dosent even drop the bomb


Or ground eats up his shred field

anybody know whats wz today
Every time got some mf in them
Ice fire dark/ion
fk
:worrypat:
Dv vera?
is there a comfirmed teddy build yet
Confirmed but anytime can change
I guess i wanna learn dv vera
Hey, PGR community!
After sometime thinking about it, I've decided to start playing Punishing Gray Raven and see if I can get addicted for it to become my second gacha game. Keep in mind that I'm barely starting out this whole thing of gachas (in general complex type of video-games since I've never owned a console, and I'm only a mobile player) so I might be slow in some aspects of more veterans.
So if you can answer some questions to help me out, I'll highly appreciate them.
For a new player, which are some mistakes you need to watch out for when starting out a new account?
Which are some content creators that you like and are actually helpful when making builds, deciding what characters to pull and what not, and learning combos? P.S keep in mind that I'm a mobile player and I, already, have a hard time executing intermediate combos in the gacha I'm playing.
Which characters are a must pull coming up in this year that new players should get? And regarding standard characters and four stars, which are ones that are worth investing in the early game to the late game? P.S I don't know if there's a YouTube channel for the official game, or it's only on Bilibili, but if there is, please tell me so I can be active to see new banners or story trailers.
Is the game hard for F2P in getting characters and clearing endgame content? P.S keep in mind that for putting money in the game, I think it'll be rarely (or none) since I'll have to see if I'm engaged enough to even want to spend money in this game, and I don't have enough funds to put in more games at once (I'm a college student, you understand).
For the skins, I might be wrong on this, but I saw that you can only get them when the banner is available and there's nothing else to get them. So if you can confirm me as to if it's possible to get them by other means (besides using in-game purchases), I'll be really happy.
If there's any more tips that you can give me, I'll highly appreciate it as well :D!!

holy spam
Wtf holy text
why they posting here as well as #šØć»general-help
Sig4 chen4 for ice
Dv guin?
Also teach dv vera
Idk if you should give that to him
Seems pretty old doc
Might misled him wildly
my teaching very bad me go by this that route
Watch couple ref of good players
Then

You know bili serf?
No bili
Idk why when search on it get random bs-t
But maybie issue with the key words
Am giving some runs see then try to mimick
Sheet rat homie? 
Mostly just speed up
For vera ending
If really need then only extend pyro rot
*double lucia qte nuke+ her offield hits main
For breakpoints

Vera extension as well not recommended except first rot
Only if really need
Wata full stack all rot
Sometimes you insta lucia qte sometimes you wait for that wave to die depends
i seen
Got more to say info dump just will be you can ask places after seeing video why doing this that
Lot of stuff matter on it
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Wut leak
Thx
The one I just deleted
It ok
huh cool
how do you know when beta starts
Beta testers
They announce it > info spreads
where do they even annouce it
Yea there too
Yea
Their in-game announcement tab shows it
You can apply if you want
But it's lottery

For me no matter
Both needed tho have a 3s tank on it
My han just 2.1
Yeah dark tank need to everyone
does lingya give 1 orb just bc it exists or I should use some orbs for it to work?
3p- next swap in 1 or.
Need 3p
Guys
I think I found why I keep having skill issue
I donāt know what waves mobs are, I donāt position myself properly because I have no idea of where the mobs spawn, I donāt know if tank shreds by qte can be applied for other waves
im tired
Hi tired
mouse ping >>>
You know Mobs, Boss, Bears?
You suck
Are these waves always the same thing in their own category?
Desperate Fight: Boss warzone
Duo Challenge: Bears
Number Advantage: Mobs
Is this correct?
Nevermind, itās dead here
Yeah, they are tanky
Yep
2.33.02.3
I see. Let me get this straight the most tanky enemy in warzone is the bears, right?
- Tanky enemy
Everyone has this
So record and watch
Your own runs
dante fraud
Wtf
Watch me get 2m score
Not fraud
š£ļø
Wait
Is teddy and bonca build diff for gaydiddyance
Hello
Because then I literally can't play it
Desperate Fight: Boss warzone
Duo Challenge: 2 Elite Enemies (Where the
Number Advantage: Mobs
Joint Operation: Multiple enemies
Crowd Battle: 3-6 mobs each wave
Bears appear in all of them but they appear the most in Duo Challenge
Is this correct now?
they dont appear in mobs

I fixed it.
That's 3s 
Is it correct now guys?
How do people memorise all of this?
So confusingg
Theres 5 warzones
u memorise?
No, you memorise?
We don't read 
Yep
I have ptsd by bears
No, by that I meant how do you guys even know the waves when we have 6 systems?
I see..
Okay, when I see a bear wave after 10 then I 4 DV, right?
Because they are tanky
maybe
Uhh okay
well
Well
Guys, do characters tank qtes apply to other waves?
Or, do we need to time our qte for it to apply?
If a wave is done and you didnāt use your qte the shred wouldnāt react, right? It wouldnāt matter how much it lasts because it didnāt apply to the second wave mobs-it only applied to the previous wave which is why you dv split. Am I correct?
Iām here to discuss meta
some can apply a field that shreds (watanabe, nanami)
And scire
Anyway, it doesnāt matter. In Tldr: Characters who donāt have a tank field only apply for one wave and need to dv split. Characters who have a tank field can apply the field for some waves until it runs out.

Yes, her SS3 one
watanabe needs to leap, nanami can do that naturally
I see. Yeah, I remembered now again that she has a yellow field.
this is just via qte
How about via the tank itself?
ult
most need to ult for the shred field, and that makes it very inconsistent if the timing isnt right
nanami has ult + qte
then followed by watanabe leap
which does nothing
worthless old man
Hmm.. I see
this old man keeps whiffing his ult on a big ass worm and i cant stop it from happening
What about the resistance reduction memory sets?

Shakespeare, Bathalon, Heisen, Chen
Why is dark so ass 
Gloria and Eins
Every mob debuff disappears after 1 Walter ult 
Okay so
The elemental resistance sets can apply to other waves, right? (if the wave is destroyed by the holder)
Which would preferably be the tank
the holder must damage that wave
Yes
Scratch the wave is enough
in case of future ice attacker, which memo order is good for teddy just in case there is different build for the future
4 joanna + 2 chen + harmo chen
4 chen + 2 joanna + harmo joanna
when the shred fields are active, it does a tiny bit of damage to apply the shred
I see, I see. I get it now
4j gives her buff on ult and off-field, so you decide the rest
In conclusion: I should 4 dv if the wave is tanky, dv split if I cannot guarantee that the other wave will have a strong wave after
Well, I would 4 dv obviously at the first bear wave and then when itās Roseblade I would split my DV to do double qte for the second bear wave and for the last bear wave I would do 4dv again.
DV split: On upcoming strong waves
4dv: On the strong wave that appears
In eu ice last week was that the w4 to w7
And w10 to 12 is bear bear roland
Boss ignition

Nergi, is what I said good?
idk
Or.. You 4dv if the wave oneshots, right?
Uhhh
Record a run and we tell you when to dv
Nooo, iām confused again
š
Broski theorizing qte timing in a game with 100s of teams with diff invests and zones
I havenāt learnt the waves properly though yet
Just wan tap 
Doesn't matter
Okay, I will record but first I need to learn when to use qte on a wave, what waves to know are strong.
Record ur current best run
I
Okay, I will record a run
Itās going to be rlly bad but I willl go do that now again
Just unga QTE unless it's Lifu's QTE 
7s hell clears
oh
7s hell 
Yes he's haxxer
only possible on one boss without kfc
Do I really have to keep using dps lilick 
Feels like am missing mucho without someone holding smtn
2 ein
Dlt bonca
Got smtn better? 
Why u got 2 ein in ish and lilith

Wait why is the dps on 2 eins
Wait, leader bonca? Or is it right hmm
But it still reapplies no?
ish doesnt run eins in wz as a tank
4 soth 4 dv



internal cd
How long
):
Bro just record a 300k score run man
I messed up so badly
Samantha work instead of sothoth? 
Sothoth needs for wz ish
You can't replace that
Hmm
Unless ppc ofc
So 4p Soth DV on ish
Yeh
War about bonca n lilick 
I 4dv wave 4 because bear, Wave 10 I use Wanshi QTE because bear, Wave 11 I just ping QTE because theres nothing I can do
If you had qte'd on wanshi shots
It would have killed before ult
And then last Wanshi rot I messed up
There's little things like that


















