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I also refuse to believe 2s vero 2s3 nana scoring same as 2s3 dante 2s vero
Alpha > mobs > double bear
Don't @ me
I mean in term of score.....
R2 might help you break that one beat breakpoint yknow
Yea well
Gave u massive up at the end
Should always use all stamina for chores?
Go go burnlao
It's worth it
ice team sucks
ITS 10% ATTACK WITH DOWNTIME
Surely u can just 10x tap Teddy sig
I REFUSE

10% atk is a lot
Massively improves breakpoints
Do I just stop malding then

Sir
Im
I'm like
62 pity on fate
does teddy have a true set now
12 20 30
Ok
Merci merci 
I will record the 9.5 for nuke
Then do ppc
No need for ice this is the saddest hero bracket of the decade
Don’t look at my team pls im ashamed of my scores 
Do I reso ted mem's now?
You would’ve 16.5 or 17 if s+ (real)

How
I still can’t believe sss6 to s+ is such a big difference
@crystal rune How's Shamelao been cooking the ice?
80% extra dmg on ult
Ask him instead of me

Also yeah, Chiko somehow felt ez as long as it's Pianissimo
Yea 80% to ult2 and 50% to off field
It’s actually so massive

Chiko was easy
Whats the improvement on 3S other radiance stack upgrade? 
I only spent 10 minutes on her, didnt even get to see booba 
Damage

How much? 
2m diff?? that much?? Damn...

I guess I will be pushing 3S agenda huh
90% base dmg up on ult2

Wanshi not shredding enemies sometimes is 
90% (with 3 stack)
Yea hes inheriting Wata problems

These m*les in the meta always ruining our runs
And sometimes qte too fast when wave spawns and the shred still didn’t hit
I mean ss Lilith to SSS Lilith is almost the same too

You can qte just as a wave dies and his qte still hits
The only problem now is that whether your wanshi Qte is far enough from enemy spawn or not 
Oh it does? I’ll try again if I’m not lazy 
I guess I will prio Lilith first since I still have 30 ppc shards left plus 20 vouchers, I need 10 more
Yea his field last way too short
His reset is so long dawg I had to early QTE him then proc Lilith DV so I can chain
I have serious qte timing issue tbh

That make fcking sense
Idk if it’s an issue with lower invest since Teddy takes up less field time but it’s a big issue for me rn

I haven't play much ice to realize how long you guys are extending her rot
I like how we can ult whenever we want with teddy as long as you have at least 1 stack
But by god I swear, I hate all of her animation locked attacks
It's too fcking long
my plan was to double QTE him but its so shite that I had to proc QTE during the fast neon ult of teddy with is a pain in the ass
Yeah that's fair
At least in all of those time she animation lock she actually does decent dmg
But ult dmg still superior yes?
Lao is there any update on mem reso? maybe I can push atk ult reso agenda here

I don’t think so
Some ppl have thought of using core reso but never tested
Welp
Well at sss6 I think she does more with core and her ult kinda weirdge so idk 
these guys putting core not even test it
There goes another todo list
That 80% edb on SSS+ do be cranking sht lmao
So SS0 to 3S ult while S+ core?
Not sure
Likely not

Probably stays atk ult
Need more runs 
I can see some scenarios where ult reso is needed but no idea
Still no solid build
Her core dmg distribution is good enough as is I reckon
The heck kuro cooking here, might even need 1 more week to test
This is more pain than I thought
You're being impatient with 1 week
Considering how dead global is

You see
CN server is already dominating in numbers and nerds
Fair enough
Global server in comparison?
You can actually count person who genuinely do proper testing and relevant enough score with your fingers already

The last real test I’ve seen was Vera cottie
Mats do be running low 
That too
Use your vip to unht
If only I could fast ult Lilith but its not enough

Not as pain as Liv 
It's even worse in global because likely half of those testers aren't day 1 fossils to be drowning in mats to actually test diff setups
You see mfs with 0 ht and 100 simulated currency
Everyone running 4Nat 4Cot lol

same
I actually still have dorm currency but I can’t cook

I’m just a customer
Smh
What is Yomm's score on 2.332.3 again?
10 smth
Iirc hes non conplete ht

Aight
Wait
imma try doing atk ult
Hes 2.334
me 243 with shukra. 8.2m score only
but i had 1m less before teddy

40% ice buff stronk
All of those mats and you don't even want to spill the diff between class and ult reso wanshi
i don't have teddy
His greed sickens me
Oh you using ish

yes

Teddyless on week 1 is sadge
still retaining
5* Wanshi 
even SS0 no sig and 4Joan 2Chen is enough dawg
Whel more and be our sacrificial lamb
You can't be talking when you whel this hard
so much bc for yourself
such greed
I only got this much. Surely enough 


@carmine roost 4%
I give up


Qube
Teddy why you overkilling them you loli why the heck you do that!!!!!!
Bro. I use Dante on Emperor
Ez sub 20 sec 😂
Her first part of ult2 alone killed them before even registering the second part of the ult 
damn... chill chill
Nah bro
I'm pretty sure that just because you build 4 shake 4 Cott Vero instead of 4 cottie 4 shake Vero
Missing out that bottom slot Cott atk
Brick dmg fr

Its 4 cot
Oh you think it won't?
Also shake is objectively worse everytime with dante team

Guin is better
If it 132 vs 135 then maybe
2 atk diff later is also buffed by hypertune, and any other atk buff stackings, and then finally added to the final dmg formula

2cottie 2eins Vero 
3s Vero?

Vero is scam anyway. Not worth higher than SS0
Sure...
I think 2eins might be better lmao
I will pull out option 3
Look at our dalao Queso #📨・meta-help message
He understand it right
Bruh no
DV for double Donte qte
Whos running guin on vero
Paking Donte user
Vero 4shakes 2cottie 2eins 
Cuz her own dmg is ass

Vero can’t run eins
These fcking Whels will never understand the pain of SS echo
Vero can. U fraud smh
Especially with all of those new voucher units
4 Guin 2 cot 2 shakes


Best of all worlds
Wdym
Burn?
1st rot only must use iirc
No bro read my post above about Vero eins

Igni DoT buff for 24 sec
Yea cuz
I'm not playing ice
Like
Legit not doing ice wz
Id rather mald phys 5m
Than do teddy missions
You can try 1x Dante ult first
Tbh early wave squishy eins wont make much difference there anyway
Makes me think that guin would jsut work better anyways
Now Im tempted to try 4guin 2cot 2eins Vero
With 3S Dante
1 wata 1 dante 2 vero starter is worse this week vs mobs
But maybe eins makes a diff
Wata is used in rot?
If it's single dante then yea
To fill downtime
Even if you do 1r4y
There's time to do 2blaze ult2
In mobs week I did wata ult start
1 wata 2 dante 2 vero is too much swap cd leak that you cannot end wz with 2 dante
Donte
Why not Donte 1 ult start 
Tried Guin Vero with Donte. Since Vero does 3 ult rot, shakes Cottie dmg does better

No third member to take advantage of Guin, and Vero needs to contribute to dmg anyways 
Have not tried 2 guin 2 eins 4 Cottie Vero tho
It's worse
2s at end not worth a lot
Worse
Than 4 guin
Oh, no 3S wata?
1 rot Dante start you can do 1 short 1 long ult on Vero at the end
Timing is tight but doable
Yes


Now 4 Guin 2 Cot 2 eins I can't try
Because my 4p is cottie
And I'm not hypertuning a 2p
For under 3S Vero, right? Cuz for 3S you’d do 3 ult rots, and Cottie Shakes is better
Okok


It's currently 9.43
Theoretical at my exact inv is gonna go at best 9.6
Not worth the mald
Yea
-1 mil from boss zone
For high invest
How much HP does Chiko have?
iirc 444 max got 23.something mil
Well with this new Strat this week score can match our last boss zone score
I hope at least
Last boss with my inv but r2 and s cub vero was 11m
It's 10+ this time
I just
I just thought maybe r1 could 10m again
333 can 18mil, 17+ at least
Yea and 24m is possible this week with new Strat
Last boss zone peaked at 24m with old Strat
Mald it anyways because you are addicted 
What new strat
No
Bear hitlag rng is worse than alpha
New strat?
I still want the tech
4 nana ult rots?
Not anything huge but score increase is crazy
And not switching to her ever, right?
I thought with 3s nana you never swapped to vera
Still switch
Play her like void zone
Have time?
I see
Nah a bit of cd leakage but it’s still better than 4 3
Better than nana 4 ult? Geiravor stronk 
But burn stx Malding with this Strat is maldy as balls
Ye I can see that. Any time overlap is burn timer wastage 
10 we go
That's with vero but
Mald already did bald for 10 tips better ask him
Bcs I have 2s3 nana and 3s wata
Wait
The tip is
R2 and s cub vero
I'm r1 with s lingya

Invest reso/cubs for 10 mil, employ the swipe strat
Wait
How u
3 ult vero at end
omg lao run


This fk whel has vero cub
U have to be crayz to pull vero cub
It’s not expensive to get 1 copy, it’s expensive to SSS or even SSS+
Yes I spent 6k for sss cub 
@crystal rune yeah

8.3 o.4 max
Wher 10m
atk ult is the best reso for her @crystal rune
wat invest?
along with the bombardment passive, she can outright kill any many bar bosses in like 10 ro 18 bars iirc
2.332.3 111 Teddy Wanshi Lilith
I’m not gonna test it though 
Which of these 2 should I get? I have a SS rigor that could act as a tank for the mean time while I only have S alisa as my amp
U plei whel invest
Hanying is the better investment between the 2
Between all available options would be unknown cuz I don't know your character list to make a priority
drop huaxu so he can help you
Thank you, the weakest team I currently have is phy considering I only have selena, while the rest of my team are fully built
Echo still works perfectly fine as a physical support
Not having a proper tank hurts the most
what to do, my goal has been achieved dawg
I will not mad burn, my right hand is tired from playing ice for maximizing qte and click speed

@carmine roost 4%
Whys your cutscene starter Vera when your starter is Vera

Also have you tried 2 6 bullet ult 
12 works best if you want mald
Not always
I lost like 2 seconds
Me too slow
For that Zazas
I'm sure that's just ss cub diff bro
4% isn't that huge fr fr
Trust me bro

(fr)
works for me tho so that I can kill vassago fast in before 30 sec

Vera starter cut scene brick
-1 sec
I'll switch to Teddy


Not a super apparent bug feature
Well not at 2:01 but close to ult, you can ult at 2:00 and still not be over
Too much wz hacks
The longest 4s I've seen so far 
and yet nuke still whiff it
His greed sickens me
Could do 6 bullet ult at the end, swap to Lilith to blue blue ult1 + Wanshi QTE nuke
That need cottie

I washed the whole run new ending got 2stack teddy so no need 
High invest vera can without Cott?
SSS Vera stonks


No
Sss Vera Ônly needs 1 blue even without cottie
3S Vera can dodge blue ult1
Oh
Wait, yes
Now what if you 3p blue on Lilith before swap to Wanshi at the start, so you can do ult1 QTE finish

Heh, I found out I have shards lol

Question, since Teddy works fine without DLT, which third weapon reso will suit her 
What the whel
Now go mald again
Litetally anything

Incan ftw
It couldn’t matter any less
wait Im eating my missed lunch cause of the mald
I think she's the first character that doesn't require 3 resos atm
are weekly service missions coming next week?
congrats
The problem is you already have both dmg resos on Teddy
R3 kinda useless
wait I dunno if kuro will add that or mail them
we did get a mail on patch release
but I saw from gray raven audio that there were weeklies
Well, I'm talking about Teddy DPS, she already has ML + Incan
For rn, if your third is an amp, you got amp reso covered, if your third is Qu or in the future an attacker, r2 Teddy would have the amp reso covered

Fck whel
lets just see what will happen cause I dunno what will happen
pretty sure teddy doesn't require reso right? 
So, the third reso will be useful when Alpha Ice arrives
Alpha Ice?
Ml + Incan helped me gain a million points with Teddy SS0
I'm assuming
Maybe rosseta is the new ice attacker
XD
Use this
I'm too poor to afford R2
whenever lightning struck, free dmg

Do not trust blindly the blue color scheme to be ice
Blue = fire
Fire tank
Trust
just like uncle wata


my Liv is still resoless
Blue = helper, Nuke is fire tank



Damn doesn't have much difference its on the QTE side of things that is improving but overall its negligible
I did wanshi's rot as fast as I could to the point his 3 ult run almost fits(he added 0.2s of field time) Teddy cooldown but alas its the chokes(full of staggers) and batshite blue yellow matrix orb arrangement 💀 on the 2nd ult spin.
I did RYB teddy but that order messes up teddy's bombardment passive by leaving 8 bars
so RBY throughout the whole run, its the staggers the messes wanshi
on the QTE aspect Lilith can reset but not enough QTE proc and nukes
What is bombardment passive by teddy?
Guess i just put dlt on wanshi
wanshi uses corrosion no?
Yeah, although with DLT it becomes more convenient to have 3 ultimates in each rotation

You depend, no hit, probably yes
I don't know if those events still have easter eggs, which are only activated when you defeat the enemy on the highest difficulty without taking damage
So, Kuro doesn't cook anymoreb
is that new rot? isnt 2 ult sufficient tho?
3 ult has always been a thing
Normal rot is 3 ultis per rot

im guessing 3 ult can happen if we keep doing drone ult?
0:00 Intro
0:22 Calibration (Gauge)
0:41 Ultimates
2:00 Stacks
2:55 Swapping Basics
3:20 Multirot Basics
3:51 Full Rotations
4:14 2 Rot (Double Ult Rotation)
4:50 3 Rot (Triple Ult Rotation)
5:21 Pros & Cons of SS 3 Rot
7:52 Pros & Cons of SSS 3 Rot
9:27 When to 3 Rot
Sexous
Sexxx

has teddy's memories been finalised?

when ion wz 
Pls no me Ônly sss6 Teddy not fair 

Might be but that Clanker wasn't even able to touch me, because I was spaming Discord's Ult constantly.
What's teddy rot?

bought new laptop
but forgot to check my electricity capped
mcb tripped everytime im using max performance
this laptop useless for now
🦓
Lmao rip

Naur think about all the people suffering with 5*
what am i suppose to do now
🦓

lemme try @crystal rune
Trying homeless invest?
Yea go ahead no problem
6.9m right now
but teddy is just ss0 no cub
Swap in:
1st sub rot: Yellow (first rot only) > X3 White (autored) > Ba + Yellow (optional) > Ult 2
2nd sub rot: 3x3 White > Red > Ult 1 > 4x3 White (Autored) > BA + Yellow > Hold BA + Blue > Ult 2
Correct me if I'm wrong 

Ba?
Basic attack
Ah alright thank you
Eepy
My brain doesn't work when u said autored at first but then i oh it's auto red

Potatoes + copper and zinc
either limit your laptop power or upgrade your electricity 
I always prefer undervolting a laptop over overclocking it

Thing is already burning hot why make it worse
Lmfao
What the heck you want to do with overclocking a laptop anyway
Rendering 1h blender project?
People want 1k fps in Minecraft I guess
i mean his issue is only when he turned on max performance, so it's as simple as not doing it.
or use software like throttlestop, intel xtu, etc etc if wanted more precise control
Or running 1 shader
Now i understand that

me: training a model
||yea im one of the reason why ram prices spiking up||
Yeah but poor man wants to do max when playing all time 
He bought the entire laptop, he's gonna use the entire laptop
I'm still gonna blame Microsoft the most for funding AI Industries more than anyone else
maybe windbell should make his own power plant, powered by palm oil
And windows 11 shtshow to dress on top
He can't
Prabowo would be mad from using palm oil without his permission


where's nvidia on the list? they're pretty much at the center of the bubble

As much as Nvidia needs to be slander, they do still deliver on drivers and software compatibility
The rivals just aren't as dedicated overall as green team to win the argument man
They still hold the high ends market
True that, their "monopoly" somewhat justified to some extent
The fact that I haven't heard much red or blue team participating in workstation/server grade GPU isn't making it any better for competition
Especially in the current ai takeover
There's threadripper for CPU from amd
But that's it?
60 series card are just ai accelerators , I still preferring myself a 3060 12GB
Are they even gonna release consumer grade 60 series lmao
Intel GPU department, pls do something!!!

Time to start saving and let your grandchildren eventually buy the 6000 pro as it's the only 60 series Nvidia has 
I really need a GPU for my thesis this 4th year dawg, laptop 3050 aint enough
U better start planning and aim your shot dawg
The hardware market is only getting worse from this point
Price kinda shite rn
The longer you wait to buy something, the more expensive it gets
is there a proper teddy build yet or still not confirmed
this is ain't normal

Maybe time to pull rigor out
help
what is teddy build
Dalao
Yeah, but it doesn't necessarily mean they can't make a proper chip for that. Some compute datacenters use amd even though not that common.
Amd has a dedicated chip for AI datacenter, but it's not commonly used because nvidia started this way long before anyone else. Practically creating an environment where every researcher / scientist is used to nvidia CUDA computing environment. Switching to amd means they need to revamp the whole system and learn new things from scratch, which is impractical 

: /
most are running 4pc signature & 4 pc chen, but there may or may not be changes to the memo sets

Ask laori
so, 4 signature set 4 chen?
pls tell me next patch is A rank
Nah it’s Rosetta

im in shambles
yeah, unless the next patch is new ice attacker as Nergi said
ok so for this week ppc and wz i need to build teddy so ill do that build?
So in conclusion, Fck AI
idk about PPC build
It's not even competition
It's battle to death for 2nd place
Don't. Jinx. It
I'm not gonna let bonca ded
Nah
bonca probably wont die. she'll just not do 5 ult rots
They’re not gonna make dark tank do more damage than bica
which i'm absolutely ass in so i'm praying every day that a new dark tank comes quick
Dark is at a point where even if new tank does less damage than lilick so long as they get better shred its automatically the best team in the meta
Yea it's a losing battle
no new dark tank then

bonca is really new so she probably will stay relevant right? right?

bench next patch
Even with <sss bonca?
Probably
They can always just make tank do way less damage
And scores will still increase by loads

I foresee a future where hy is replaced before Daren


so.. new tank gimmick?

Best tank afterall
Any pilots for wz ppc this week?

hello, do we know which memorys are the best for teddy now ?
For now yes, Its 4Joanna 4Chen
No one can say it will never change at all 
Oh shi i just reso+ht jeanne...
Does it change at SSS or is it same at all invest levels
Same. Shes like Lilith
Zexlao so famous
If you don't have dlt yeah that's the only reliable way to maintain orbs for 3ult which sacrifices a huge amount of damage overall lol
Use 2nd amp 3rd gen like Lilith or Vera, whichever got SSS
sss doesn't even matter here really, just whichever has 2 sig resos
Qte reset
I honestly forgot about it until 2 seconds before you sent this message
I remembered right then and there 
But still amp resos higher prio methinks
Yeah just swap her resos to the amp buffs
Axial ray and glorious spear
i only need 1533 more bc until i (might) get wanshi sig
what mem build for lilith
she can be qte bot right?
I think you should replace dlt with axial ray as you won't swap to her
ya i will
4dv 4guin or 4dv 2guin 2eins depends on week/zone
Just go with 4guin as baseline
how about this week's wz
Wanshi 2 eins lilith 4 guin 
He is broke on mats btw
and how about the ppc
i got a whole 10k sim currency
so i can buy a couple memory sets but no resos
I still need to learn teddy but idk when to find the motivation 
It's hard to be motivated to do that when I have to wait for the middle of next week to get her with full equipment
Just pull her my bro 
Damn stonks congrats
Ggs cheated the system
i just do
swap in > 2x 3ping > ult > 3x 3ping > red > basic atk > yellow > hb > blue >ult
repeat as needed
(idk the proper kit or anything but made this up during the tutorial practice stages for teddy)
trust in fate ig
I have no idea how her moveset even works yet so I didn't understand anything 🙏
She automatically does special orb on swap
I just know barebones info
Or Instant ult on swap
huh
They don't have her sig unlocked yet you whel
Oh joe did you know that if you swap between teddy and wanshu only you might want to learn his 3ult rot
Ur so whel smh
oh yeaaaa
uh
i kinda know it i think
wait nvm i forgot 3ult rot
what are the numbers again
i can figure it out based off that
12, then 18 30 12
With 6 12 12 bullet spent 
Bullet ult, flying ult, bullet ult
ty
6 12 18 30 12 
16?!
Oops
oh
Just go with 12 18 30 12
12 first rot
Nezt swap 18 30 12
18m where
so uh
start off-ele amp
swap in wanshi
12 shots then bullet ult
swap off
then after that
swap in wanshi, 6 shots then bullet ult
12 shots then flying ult
12 shots then bullet ult
Bro sss6 Teddy 
I’m going for 24m burn
With new Strat taishi discovefed
330 hero but 368 legend is so ass
Same thing happened last boss spam too
Df light glacio boss
@stray siren
https://youtu.be/RRuR_9QDKWo
Fluc : 368.2
Weather : Character gains 60% ice DMG bonus upon entering the battlefield. The bonus decreases to 20% in 12s
Leader : Teddy
Notes :
Wanshi was a pain to deal with since lightning, bear, rose blade can delay wanshi in some way. There are some things that can be changed in this run so 950-970 should be possible. The rotation doesnt r...

~~ so ppl play on NA or EU ~~
Sea too crowded maybe
But then na and eu are dead asf so not even close to cap score
Everytime me pushing +3 waves for same ching chong and spamming wtf wtf pak you tired

Eu casual as can be
Taishi and dfgod what i seen
And i donno if i need to play ice
Theres a dmcwhel to my bracket

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bnanami
i see
did the build change for teddy yet

homelesslao 
everthing goes wrong i feel like
I swear on some random tuesday, it would











