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well not directly at least
What are you doing above me 👀
Can I watch?
now score top 1 wz while blindfolded and using your feet to play while your hands use a banjo

I cant, i dont have a banjo. That is the only reason.
If zex allows it sure
I respect the confidence now I'll get you a banjo and watch you do it
This is how it felt to retain Hero with Ember
Morning handsome
hi icon
Meowy Christmas

wow, midnica washed, can't do 12s chaos chibewbs with my team with her, only with alisa 
IKR
Like bru
wtf
its insane How undercooked phys is
Dunno why but amp never have higher dmg than their attacker on phys
Showing how mid phys is

Merry Christmas, Commandants.
No 2000w? 
Seeing the score, probably full s+
nah phys is downbad
Omega bricked
full gen3 team but one of the lowest scoring
Yeah as suspected SSS+ again phys always neeeds like 2X 3X more invest to work than any othr element
3
Phys is PHUCKed
Fire is atleast good because I'm in it.
I still haven't learn vero's rot yet, i should never pull her tbh
I Can help but what are ur chars?
Umm BA Ba ba ult yellow something something
2.32.32.3 phys and 32.33 (nanami-vero-vera)
Not really hard tbh
THat s£%t nasty as F**K
I can't believe I've already been forgotten 
wait u need help on vera with what warzone exactly?
Idk 
patton selena
My Vero only have 1 set and it's still the lvl1 dv

What are we doing
Man
I Can't help you
All i can say is
Get better frames
please
Sigh, guess im still using alisa on phys, while solo nanami on ignite, that's better

Ig until another boss burn wz, I wouldn't bother trying burn seriously
Hanying leap saves us
Later
Yknow whats wats funny i got SSS+ Liv, Bianca, dante, vergil,
but
No Solactune
Probably rosetta gotta be phys tank
do dailies for me too then
So hanying dead
Balding burn is more fun
I need to sleep 
Can i scrap vero's
Testing 4s vera
Works better than duo swap
3rd vero rot deals piss dmg
i hired you for phys 
You dont pay me
is it too cope to hope ross or kamui replace hanying
i hate hanying
worst unit in the game
i can't play US just because she exists
me forced to use hanging on field in ppc now, this is unacceptable 
Id say Hanying is most need of replacing right after Scire
So I wouldn't be surprised
At the same time though, it's Kuro and what they do has never made sense so if they do smth else dont be surprised
Yes worrygil better

wut is dat? some kind of creature? never heard of it 

i expect hanying to last at least 2 years more

judging kuro standard to make trash units last stupidly long on the meta
but you really used worgil at chiko? 
My ppc shedule be same 10min before reset 

if they don't powercreep her i at least expect a leap on the same level as luna
me cooked my chiko runs now, chaos was a pain 
wut times got
why phys ffs
why midnica won't heal on swap out like alisa? such a bricc char 
had to use alisa on chaos cuz of this bruh
she doesn't? kek
11/12/14, only chaos needed extra cooking, the others were fairly simple and easy
13 hell not possible?
2 chiko vid
6 stage
all stage has different input & qte timing
im tired to trying one by one rot

not with my invest, even this was kinda tight on dmg
bruh lul
how tight 13s hell ?
2.32.32.3 122 on knight/hell
chaos used 3s alisa instead of vero
and base s cub, too pleb for more 
R1 difficult yes 
Can I get any higher score?
Dark: 2.133 123 Luna Wata Lilick, 21s
TS: 2.133 323 Glacio, 22s
Ok I forwarded
probably only possible if you can kill with flower > swap + single midlena qte
if you need ult on hanging, that's 14s already
Real?
ye
Say less
raydiance still a bit slow 
cottie not working on teddy?
trying to decide me memory positions, so if cottie is not usable on her, ima ht chen and harmo her sig mem 
She doesn't need Cottie anyways
Chen is good on her
@crystal rune I think Im gonna shorten Selena rot to try and hit 20s (and possibly 19)
ppc could use cottie if it would make her rot faster
Even though Im getting ult2 within amp buff, glacio buff is expiring

but if it doesnt work at all, then it's useless on her for real 
She can pretty much insta ult so there isnt a need
(For now at least)
Maybe in the future if there's a beefier ice boss she'll need it
But we still have only Mado and Emperor for now
ohh wutdaheck, she gets so much energy from color orb 
Can 17s, cancel both 3pings before hold blue
she works backwards
she starts at full energy and doing thingies consumes the energy but increases her ult dmg
did 2x3 d 3 d, I'll try cancelling all 3p?
cottie just fundamentally doesn't make sense
it would only affect faster ult1 but nothing past that
The holy whell nuke waifu
Crazy dmg
Ye
and idk if that would matter since base form she can just instaping everything
so who knows if it would even be faster
Wait a minute I forgot
ye, just checked espada ppc vid, she ults almost instantly
Might SS3 Liv be able to bruteforce smth here

2.12.12 123
at least no need to build multiple sets on her 
midanca fault
I highly doubt I will ever use gaydiance, unless they force me to with a new ppc boss
zamn

just replace midanca
ss0 midanca is giga mid, won't ever bother with her
Unlikely
People will just use Liv on any Rad boss or content
3s do it 
Unless their Radiance invest happens to be significantly higher
i hate to say this
but ss0 siren way more better than midliv & midanca
fund me 

Sucks cause I actually like Rad Bianca's animations and playing with her
Even if she is braindead
But it is not to be ig
ok, time to hunt 16 gigs ram
cya
do better dawg 5.8m teddy no weap no reso Scub only
Btw, what builds does each person have
oh yh, it does do 17
4guin 2lantern 2sam teddy
4dv 2glor 2eins nana
4jean 4heis bonkers
tnc Helperlao 

Why did I never think of 4Heisen


Im just used to seeing the builds pre Teddy
Cottie Wilde or Fran Wilde
Or Eins Wilde if it was Crepe in lightning WZ as sub dps over CW
cottie wilde
Wz does need Cottie
For 5ult
Cottie Wilde yes
Idk Ig it just never occurred to me to use Heisen
Also I had no luck
With glacio kill
Unless some lao in Moon Glaive or Celica finds a way Im stuck
Every game I install back tells me to uninstall
Maybe God is telling me to quit gachas
Imagine setting up your preset again and then instinctively clicked that bottom right button thinking it's a "save" button
And scrambled the entire fcking team again

I will not play burn nor dark for the top 1 or top 2
what is your team setup for Ice wz
112 551
2.332.3 011 Teddy Wanshi Lilith featuring Teddy no 6* weap, no mem reso , 4Joan 2Chen
teddy SSS, SS3, or SS?
SS3
alright thanks
Crazy to think that with only her weapon and a whole 3 reso I can get 7m
What did you get this Christmas, Commandant?
Literally 3 reso


Who is this?
Teddy
What is she
Ice/ray amp
Oh right ice amplifier...
I might check her out, but not too sure about how I feel downloading whatever 30gb it was
Now Im thinking whats her full reso score also with weapon lol
I might come back on New Years
MAYBE when Kamui releases, but that's a big maybe.
This LOL of Gacha
Playing only PGR for 2 years straight competitively does something to you...

-# Peak game uma

I’ll come back when miku PGR is a thing
Aren't you miku
Miku pgr next year trust 
No I’m miku expo 

Do you have anything to ask me before I go
The great
Vera.AI Helper
Of mid-2025?
Ok guess not bye bye
its duo zone so always a bear fest
omg dalao 
at least it isn’t terrapod
sure buddy
Should I R2 my Teddy 
i use red class

for the basic target, ss3 crepscule, aegis, startrail, or wait?
SS3 Startrail or wait

Bug?
Guys, I have a question, why Lilith is used in ice team now?

fck yeah

got it
Finally not sigless anymore
@crystal rune Lao, whats best for R1, Incan, GS, or ML?
for teddy?
yah
if have r2 amp already then incan
all will be r1 if Lilith
then whatever amp reso you dont ahve
Lilith SAR and Wanshi DLT
Im scared running out of orbs
so for Teddy, GS?
if youre scared of running out of orbs then just swap to lilick to 3p when done with teddy rot

or yk reset when you dont have enough orbs
Some says 4 jenna 4 genevieve
~~ Hanna Darwin ~~ 
This bug doesn't exist in cn btw
they just want us to manually play it to artificially increase our time playing the game
shite behavior tbh
no usb dawg
Who's holding SAR 
Ray
EN doesnt read smh
Who calls it Ray tho
No I mean, GS on Teddy SAR on 2nd amp is corect
Like Nergi said
And there Wanshi no dlt needed
Just need to be lucky on 4th/5th swap in to not got orb rng'ed
Him, the video owner 
Superconductive Axial Ray
Ray is the shortest one
SAR is also three letters and is more commonly known
Not that common to me personally


should i feed qu weap to wanshi
Not yet imo
alr
What Qu rank btw?
And hows ur Wanshi and Teddy?
I would feed CW weap to Wanshi but it's R3 and that would feel awful to do
All SS0
Im using Teddy Wanshi Lilith
Wanshi and Teddy only SS0 too?
Hmmm...not enough test done for pure SS0
My Wanshi is R0 and my Teddy is R1
Teddy DPS team seems to score well compared to Qu team at least for me
Oh yes certainly Teddy main dps rn
But Wanshi below SS3 cant 3x ult per swap in else he ran out of orb
So filling Wanshi downtime with Qu 1x ult maybe better for now
Im still kinda hesitant to feed Qu weapon though since I might need her for norman
Until more established pure SS0 rot is found
Or u know, until your Wanshi is SS3 maybe
Yea, just wait wp usb patiently
Qu is sure dead bcs assumption of Wanshi + Teddy at SS3 higher since they are free to even SSS
Well, that can also be true
I just dont know how SS0 Wanshi dmg is
Cuz iirc at same rank, Wanshi and Qu same dmg output
Im just not sure
I'm somewhat considering feeding my R3 CW sig since CW is actually useless but...
idk....

SSSr1 Qu, SSS3r1 Wanshi, SSSr2 Ayla.
Qu goes on the shelf, Teddy gets her Joan and Chen, right?
But yea, generally Wanshi Teddy + 2nd amp will score better for the common masses
Far less optimization needed than pitching in 1x Qu ult
What rank Teddy?
I'll try 1x Qu ult for all SS0 and see how it does
Ppl still cooking tbh
Just try both with 1x Qu and without Qu at all
Teddy is SS3 right now, I'm aiming for SSS, and I can get her weapon to r2 if needed.
for 1x Qu ult would that be her full combo ult or her hold dodge ult
Guess we skip HT for now
DO you have Wanshi at SSS, that will change how much time you can spend on each characer
I dont have Qu sorry 
Try both for sure, I think its full since cooldown below SSS Wanshi is long
What does the green mean actually?
Faster time to kill that wave
I reached that floor 24 seconds faster compared to my previous record clear
that means you killed the wave x amount of times faster
somtimes it matters but for most of the times not really
Now phys and entropic in same timer

So sss0 maybe can rotate
Yea if youre sure then feed her sig to Wanshi
RIP SS0 Qu
Only SSS still somehow barely alive then
Teddy Wanshi Lilith is easier to play and also just more damage LOL
When Wanshi got to SS3 can change his R1 to domain
No dlt needed anymore
Ill pull qu sig again if they leap her (they wont)

They wont
Theres a possible 3x - 4x Qu qte in 1 dv reset btw
So if she got qte nuke leap it'll be too broken
Luna already leapt. Leap never goes backwards
it's kinda depressing seeing Qu bricked like this even when she isnt that old
at least Lamia was already ancient when Lilith came out
~~ isnt she hundred of yrs old? ~~ 

Lamia isnt ancient
Shes young on meta
Even when Bianca dark release, Lamia havent touched 2yrs at all
Its like 1.9yrs
I think I'm pushing it too far bruh
Dark tank has to be coming soon
Also serious answer, Daren + sig still useful for ppc qte
my daren is SS0 so she is brick
Ishmael got no 9 AP after all
S0 + sig is fine for ppc
im debating on whether to feed qu sig or daren sig...
Qu imo
Attacker got 0 value the moment they lose dmg
Tank and amp still have some value
All the sigs I could semi-safely feed to him are
Alisa
CW (her sig is R3...)
Qu
Daren
Qu
okie
Daren and Alisa is useful
CW u might have personal attachment cuz R3
Qu is no saving her since SS0 and not free voucherable
New Alpha ice attacker.
Trust

CW is my first S rank and my first SSS character

YES
Kamui is an ice attacker because his story takes place in the desert (i think) and the desert is hot
I not trust
But, isnt Kamui hot?
Wata exist
if i was a woman, I'd become his wife already
Kamui
felt dark to me

My ice score is still bad compared to lightning fire and darkflow
maybe i can get better score if i properly use Wanshi QTE
he doesnt have 100% res down uptime
unless you properly manage qte
5-6m is normal i think for pure SS0 ice
What?
Wanshi 4Liston 4Chen is perma shred tho?
Oh wait, its SS0 wanshi
I forgor
Ye
I can reach 5m if I dont skill issue with Wanshi qte
i had like 3 teddy ult hit enemy with no res down

Also manage Wanshi qte nuke too
He got 1x qte nuke after the drone/flying ult
Or was that only SS3 hmmm
Im pretty sure QTE big PP damage is at SS3 for all construct
Well that was attacker. Let me check Wanshi
Also my game is bugged or smth because the timer for guinivere doesnt display sometimes which causes further brick

Ice have qte nuke on tank
And off field dmg on amp (Teddy)
I hope i dont have to refarm for teddy when ice attacker drops
I not need cuz beed to build dv to for nihil
Wait do we have testing that shows how teddy does with nihil

tbh ive been using watanabe in nihil
idk why but it scores higher than using an amp
In ppc surly need cuz had a chance to wata buzy
If ur Ish is not SSS, SSS tank is better than amp (currently)
More shred +3s reduced CD is huge
Cuz better shredfield and if sss0 faster swapcd
Nope. Its on his base kit btw. Even S0 works 
After flying drone ult, got 1x qte nuke

i see

so dev really does hate attacker
Just hate ice
They wanna sell SS3 SSS attacker so much
To the point that SS0 attacker is sooo bad recently
I have SS3 Crep SS3 Luna SS3 liv SS3 Piano... 
my pyro is still SS0 ... it's so brick
Tho when you go SSS flat all
Attacker is strongest
Eh, pyrowashed issokay
New fire unit soon maybe
SS0 pyro actually hits like paper
I can confirm
SS3 Crepe may kill SS0 Pyro in plasma too btw
Since Teddy exist for Ray
My SS3 crep already outscore my SS0 pyro in flux
even before teddy
My sss nanami just not dealt dmg comper to sss0 liv
Rad Teddy needs SSS for WZ tho
Which is not super accessible to most ppl
I guess uuuuuh
You didnt do the peak 5x slash ult on plasma?
No test done. Let us cook first before stating anything
Yes?
Ppl play plasma
Issokay. 4 slash more sane for most ppl
It increaes rad max gague from 10 to 20
It's BIG
would you rather play flux or true slash
SS0 5x ult is peak tho
But yea

ion wz next week plis 
Light
Brother. I know
But all that are theory. Just test it first
Why speak so hastily when not much test has been done?
No you dum, I don't hab Pyroath
Live patch has 0 test
Cause it has been tested
just use crep
play the other zone then 
Nothing's changed since V4
Actually iirc Rad Teddy hasn't really changed much at all
Just play lightning
In flux zone

But Setsu's already tested this
Crepe does fckall when she's manually filling gague
You are more or less softlocked to a single rot without Teddy SSS
3 at most
That SSS lets u increase the rot to 5ult
close to 7m kek
SIX SEVEN—
ahahahaha
Hero or Legend?
Invest?
2.332.3 111 Teddy Wanshi Lilith
U can probably 8M

Im still to caveman to realate that 67 mame
The 69 i was able to untersdtand
you sure? my only issue is wanshi keep spitting yellow blue and yellow yellow here
Wut rot doin score looks to low
3 ult wanshi 1full 1stack Teddy
So what’s the verdict for sss just pull one copy?
No mem reso teddy tho?
For teddy
Teddy? Yes for you
Too giga whel you 
Not hyper teddy that? 
No sense not pulling at all
Pull before buying shards yes
More or less instant Teddy SSS by next week
Yea. Non reso non ht
Just 4chen 4joanna lol
He just got it fresh
orb rng arrangement is kinda wonky here that there is no blue yellow(only on matrix tho) and its chock full of yellow and blue on 8th placement
Pak i need to pull for teddy
Ah no hyper then 9.4 should be I guess
Reso don't really matter mach
Incan matrix super meh
Shouldn't be a problem for u

Ooh GS done at least
Im just a doplin
So maybie not insta sss0 the next chara
No idea this inv 
But yeah
Reverse is better
Score will up by a lot
Unless early pity on fate
Insta ult next swap
Ok thank you
So gacha pull 30 shards
Exchangeable pulls 50 shards
PPC shards 30
This month and next month shards 40 shards
150 shards in total for sss?
help me bless my orb rng on Wanshi, he is the choke point
Remember to use the free shop and ppc shard too
Dont be like him
Yikes
yeah
What orb rng doesn’t wanshi have built in matrix 
120 for SSS
12 24 12
Leviatan moment
Only initial copy is needed
Why then happening 
Btw, you dodge his entry blue ping?
dunno, its shite
So what can I cut off or save from here @barren plank
For glacio only forwarded analog or else no
when yellow, i ping y dodge then click blue on the 8th freaking orb placement
On ice without that u got no orb rng'ed?
For 3x ult
Interesting 
I should test more
Never
Idk but for ice I used to get
Old ice
All swap if 3 rot dpin
Now don't get
this specific run is wonky any way lao@noble zinc 1stk and full ult on teddy first swap right
?
You only need to pull one copy not two
Then 3 stack do
https://youtu.be/E31fqZTCU6M
Can refer
#punishinggrayraven #teddy #ice #herowarzone #pgrgameplay #pgr #sightlinebreach #teddyspectre #wanshi #lilith
aight lao imma test now
Ahhh ok I see but the 50 shards from the shop 40 from voucher and ppc 30 are still the same
This correct for SSS only
Nergi says her SSS6 and SSS+ is big
But dunno am not whel
I can go for sss+ but it better be worth it
Just sss for now
@noble zinc This is the score, 7m if wanshi didn't parry that last attack

7m without mem reso is a cancer ahahahaha
Also ice not that sensitive with teddy?
I mean a no need 1000 restart to 2nd tap
Rosetta fire Kamui Ice
So unlimitied restart work still here
Peak trash it was
cottie wanshi to prevent the staggers 
it's mostly cuz enmy stuff you can adjust qte and cub skill to prevent that
Enmy if spawns in your wanshi circle he won't reload
And lightning
Can freeze enmy
Lightning won't fall then

How about Wanshi darwin eins 

Pak this fatfk
Burn no 10m

Then r2
Yea so it
No
Do*
Then get a reso
No
Yes
i read everything
till selena chapter came in
literally wanted to kms
since then i dont wanna bother with story anymore

think i will start reading on rosetta patch again
wonder if they all put the upcoming units in the liv banner

Damn Teddy was the ice savior even without mem resos at that
who's cover is this?
Eiden xII
poor soul
oh man

also guys what memory set can i do for teddy spectre?
Just want to confirm cuz last time i wasted a lot of memory resonance on limpidity after i realised i have been using the wrong memory
he built natasha,he deserves that
I also did that and paid dearly for it
The reverse of him
go marry them
The prequel

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#1447937004385075392 message
Tho a reminder 
We're only entering 3 days
wait even weapons are bound to characters ?
the same thing was said with limpidity
and you built natasha 
bruhhh
Yes
He is sigless Liv
This one is Livless sig
well teddy is opaf, so it works
lmao
wheres teddy's cub 😭
livless sig is crazy 😭
i did them all
you bought all the shards
here
RIP if you follow him 
Its even worse than falling into Natasha SS0 Liv
how did you yse so much trial prototype
cuz of 4 guinevere?
Cuz everything. He biggest misinfo
check missions
Tho not deliberate. Its just he is that clueless
i didnt give any info
bro just asked what i used lol
did you manually fight or did you auto clear
?
@vague summit I already linked the more trusted answer here
mix of both
noone would trust a white role


Good. Dont trust anyone 👍
No one should be trusted more without concrete proof

hmmm memory build for spectre? 🤔
so bad
hmmm
Reso top +atk bottom ult btw
Yea
yes
Her cub and her sig memo buffs ult soo much
Shes like Lilith
Mine just so poor on sim coin
yolo screw it, im going to build her now
Wow, a good sig memo

what your ful team inv
ss3 r1 banji ss0 r0 qu ss0 r0 tebby
@carmine roost you tried ?
Why can't I use these
ss0 teedy strongest here you wont be good making her support build
Bug rn
I see thx

so 4 sig 4 chen?
Ye
4 sig 4 chen as well
no
He is sub dps
Oh yes
You remove qu and added another amp
2 amps
Guess just we don't have proper ref
damn
Get ayla in there with 4dv guin and eins

Only score will speak
Unless your wanshi sss you don't even have to swap to 3rd
i got 6.7m with that
but my teddy is homeless

next week ss3 and cub
teddy will be using joanna no matter what?
Fck do I know
As dps should be yeah
in phy wz, does selena always go for 1 flower ult and 1 regular? this assume 2.132 sel han vero
Are you wondering why not reg ult all the time or something?
more like is there any scenario where reg ult twice is ever being used
and does sss hanying relegate each member to just one rot
is this still the dark wz builds or any change?
Woah, whel
Well there's many wz rot videos that do reg ult almost most of the time. Usually f2p / low invest tho, maybe because flower ult take longer at low invest.
And sss hanying reduces switch cd by 3s, so it will be faster to switch back to sele and do her flower ult more frequently
...
I think, im not sure i don't have such a high invest, wait for laos answer
Any Atk+15 and what else at the bottom for either Main DPS or Main Sub-Dps Support?
I need a bit of guidance for Teddy.
I'm trying to build her up
Dawg there's literally
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oh, sorry, i didn't mean to reply...
But i'm also building Teddy
thanks.
and sorry for any inconveniences

The benefit of not building DF and burn

Skip affix, too expensive for my hero ahh


whel fk
Yo so
How about this rot for Teddy
Swap in > yellow > ult > hold ba > blue > ult > 3x 3p White > red > ult > red - blue - yellow/red - yellow - blue/blue - red - yellow > Ult
Works least
Wanshi fix need feels so bad
Someone did say it increased his jam
Seems true
Oh wtf this
seems smthing diff
Me ready wrong
Is it different or same
RYB is marginally fast according to Shameless, 2025
Wut you doing 2nd rot did not understood after 3 white
Yeah mine diff
Ss ver R2 ss cub
SSS wata R2 s+ cub
Ss3 nana R2 ss cub
Different stack order
You do blue red yellow
Oh this is vero
Wtf
Why am I balding with 2.332 111 s cub dante and lingya vero
I'm doing phys pak this
No I mean he doing ult in 2nd rot after 3white-red
Then what next part then red-blue-yeloow/red
What bracket u put me in lao
Its the ult stack order
Idk I can't understand that
Then idk what next
Nvm I need sleep am totally seeing things now
Yeah whatvyou said stack order seems he was saying
Any new rots?
To fit 2 ults in amp buff?
I tried so many things SS3
Best 1-3 feeling
with stack adjustments
No more for now
Doing it
ouf SS0 teddy R2, lilith R1, SSS0 Wanshi R2
Hero WZ EU
Like you have to be really fast for this
Perfect run should be ending with 3syack ult
Wanshi full 6-30-12 unless you hitting 1hp wave then can cut ending 12 bullet
Below sss teddy wanshi dmg matters
Cant be harder than ishmael
You can get over it with practice or good device it's not that difficult
This full run speed up need
Like
Wait
Wonder why lilith?
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Hax input
Hitlag parry lightning shred jam slow mo,stagger there so much idiotic thing happens
- my Ayla S rank R0
- SSS lilith resets qte when swap
- Ayla can't proc 4 guin always
- In hero wz 4 guin i think better cause mobs die very fast
any spectre owner here?
All the / means or
What about it
wha 😭 i was going to ask for her ss3 buffs
easier to ask here
this is a must get i believe right?
Eh
Idk im the wrong person to ask
It is good tho for sure
Get 3s teddy
Double max Raydience stacks
Got 3s teddy with only 10k bc 
















