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carmine roost
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They never know the pain of f2ps

round lake
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wind hemlock
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Veronica will become good when she gets leap in 2027 trust

carmine roost
carmine roost
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My homies never take him seriously

round lake
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Not the most reliable guy but as long as he slander Qu

carmine roost
echo current
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Why not just

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Use teddy in qu team

round lake
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Teddy is hungry

dawn cloak
round lake
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She wants field time

sturdy nimbus
dawn cloak
noble zinc
echo current
noble zinc
dawn cloak
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Teddy bot still hungry
Cant function well smh

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Its already patch release

carmine reef
noble zinc
echo current
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Ts so ass

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And I just like sss qu 2 patch ago 🥀

crude maple
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is discord sss+ worth it as vergil alternative for ultima slash?

carmine roost
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Ice team back at maintaining the agenda of one of the worse team

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Nope

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You better pray brother

echo current
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Just dont do ultima brick

true pivot
carmine reef
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No vergil? Dont play ts
No hanying? Dont play ts

round lake
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Slap Glacio and it's gucci

echo current
sturdy nimbus
dawn cloak
carmine reef
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Vergil ts is pretty fun

round lake
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Its all Hanying fault

carmine roost
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Its all Hanying fault

round lake
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Rosetta, please save us

crude maple
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i'll just use glacio i guess

carmine roost
carmine roost
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She's dark/ion tank now

round lake
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Take back her previous job

echo current
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Just fkng powercreep karenina bro 💔

true pivot
round lake
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No Dark Tank til 2030

true pivot
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its not even 10m this team so washed

carmine roost
steady otter
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tell em

true pivot
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yommythevasius

steady otter
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@orchid owl

echo current
crystal rune
steady otter
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I DONT HAVE HOMELESS PHYS ACC

true pivot
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wao dalao so pro

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when 23m

dawn cloak
carmine roost
true pivot
echo current
dawn cloak
echo current
dawn cloak
true pivot
echo current
steady otter
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im gonna edit this first

crystal rune
steady otter
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tag me guys if you has homeless invest

crystal rune
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221 155 thinkge

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bnanami

steady otter
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sure

crystal rune
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aite

steady otter
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dm

true pivot
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@steady otter donat mone pls dalao

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tagged

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where funds

carmine reef
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I have 222 phys

carmine roost
carmine reef
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Is that homeless

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It sure feels like it

echo current
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No, you just don't have rights

carmine reef
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It's the lowest scoring team on my acc by a pretty significant margin

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Dogshet element

dawn cloak
echo current
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Mines prolly fire its ass

deft apex
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so how bad is teddy

echo current
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Kicks qu

carmine reef
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How bad is ur ass

deft apex
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not bad

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thanks

carmine reef
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Prove it

deft apex
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uhhh

echo current
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Damn your ass is not bad?

deft apex
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🍞

echo current
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Didnt know you were like that fabs

true pivot
steady otter
carmine reef
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You were serious about that?

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Who the hell has s bananami, you get shards for her from ppc every week

true pivot
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my invest is
(2.3-1.3) = 1
(2.3-1.3) = 1
(2.3-1.3) = 1

111

deft apex
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banned

dawn cloak
carmine reef
crystal rune
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well he has mine now

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lets see what he cooks

carmine roost
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5* weapon gaming?

radiant panther
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implementing the burn style mem set(2 Ice boost user)

carmine roost
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Time to hypertune herEvilLiv

carmine roost
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Yes EvilLiv

radiant panther
echo current
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Is teddy's build not bait like liv?

nova quarry
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joanna top or bot

radiant panther
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but its bianca style

dawn cloak
round lake
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I tried Cottie, worse than Chen

noble zinc
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Why ching chong again like 500k more than me in same place

round lake
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Prob because Teddy rot so slow

crystal rune
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ching chong is +3m from me

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how is this possible

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paking hax

dawn cloak
crystal rune
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i said ching chong so cn server

dawn cloak
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~~ racist smh ~~

round lake
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CN server doesnt have as many Bears, they've caged most of them

echo current
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Clearly hes a better whel bro clueless

crystal rune
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kuso really likes to put double bear waves now

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i cant remember the last time there was a boss zone without double bears

round lake
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It's Teddy debut

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obviously needs bears

crystal rune
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problem is she isnt the one coming across the bears

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its wanshi

feral flume
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Wat teddy inputs?

carmine reef
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Wanshi coming on bears?

crystal rune
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no i am

carmine reef
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There's definitely a doujin for that

round lake
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What

crystal rune
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no its the bears coming on qu

noble zinc
nova forum
foggy vessel
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Should I spend voucher to get more Teddy ? (Like SS or SS3)

noble zinc
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I don't even want to play it's even hero how this big diff

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Every week this happening

noble zinc
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Am not even overkilling evey aren't even that squishy

carmine reef
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After that it's recommended to wait for the next monthly reset for the discount to reset

foggy vessel
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Ok thx

viscid cave
nova forum
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wat

pine slate
orchid owl
little birch
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Anyone know what cub to use on vergil If i don't have his sig cub?

orchid owl
little birch
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Alr ty

orchid owl
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do you have his sig?

little birch
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Yeah I have his weapon, just not the cub

orchid owl
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alr good

keen meteor
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Thats why

ripe stag
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Good enough?

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SS3 R1 cub Teddy
SSS0 R1 cub Wanshi
SSS0 R2 Lilith

noble zinc
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9.5 should be avrg

ripe stag
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Oh god what

noble zinc
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R1 if idk

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Wanshi

noble zinc
deft apex
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So what's teddy team

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Ayla and wanshi?

noble zinc
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Idk

ripe stag
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Go for it

orchid owl
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why not off ele 3rd gen amp

nova forum
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what are these zazas bro

orchid owl
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or any other gen 2 amp with R2

deft apex
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R2 whel

orchid owl
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literally all of them have double tick heal except ayla skule

nova forum
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does teddy need dlt

orchid owl
# deft apex R2 whel

sorry I meant like if you have R2 amp (except ayla) that's preferable, if not then just any double tick amp

orchid owl
feral flume
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What input for new teddy guys?

orchid owl
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but wait for it

orchid owl
real jackal
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so for new ice team, sss ayla>ss3 qu?

orchid owl
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everybody obsessed with her

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cow

slender scarab
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Where are my chiko achievement skulls kuro

orchid owl
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literally every other off ele amp, even echo as a phys amp is better

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you just need someone to proc memories
4 guin and 4 dv mainly

orchid owl
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what do you think who will give better buffs, looking at kits exclusively?

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when you come to the conclusion that teddy will, it doesn't matter anymore what element the other amp is, it only matters who can trigger the support memories

echo current
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Is cottie better than chen jiyuan on sss qu??

real jackal
orchid owl
keen sable
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i cant even run ice

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my physical hitting just 4m

real jackal
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can i get a more specific answer? what specifically is fked up about ayla?

orchid owl
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she is a single tick healer, meaning to trigger the effects of 4 guin (heal 2 times) she needs QTE 2 times instead of 1 time like every other amp (including empyrea, feral, echo from the gen 2 line-up)

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unless you have R2 on ayla and no other amp, she doesn't have anything else going for her besides that

orchid owl
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but having R2 on ayla, you would have to be a regular spender

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at that point, you have at least R1 on everyone

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if not R2

real jackal
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ye i got her at r3 sss

dawn cloak
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Paint dupe Ayla

real jackal
radiant panther
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Damn...

orchid owl
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and she is a double tick healer unlike ayla

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you have hypertuned resonated memories on her too

radiant panther
orchid owl
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or are you saying you grabbed teddy from service shop? johnroblox

real jackal
radiant panther
orchid owl
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you don't even need to field echo

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QTE bot with 4 dv 4 guin

deft apex
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what's booba monster running for raydiance

orchid owl
keen sable
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anything i should change for wz physical?

dawn cloak
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Arguably only SSS Vera can be fielded on ice
For insta ult1
Then again, still off ele TeddyTooSmug

orchid owl
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oh wait, did you buy 13 shards with voucher?

radiant panther
orchid owl
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idk if that can be called a good choice

radiant panther
remote fossil
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Why forced buy when u can waitDumbDawn

radiant panther
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plus got lucky with the pulls(20) so SS3 and the sig got offrated

dawn cloak
radiant panther
orchid owl
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you pulled teddy, and tried to SSS before getting her sig and cub?

dawn cloak
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Dayum bro even pulling the free sig wp

orchid owl
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and you tried pulling her weapon? skule

plain oyster
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He wants reso

orchid owl
wind hemlock
remote fossil
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🥀

orchid owl
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bro explain what you just did

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did you or did you not pull teddy?
and her sig?

wind hemlock
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Pro max this is not the flex you think it is

nova quarry
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whos getting yeeted here

remote fossil
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Qu-te

orchid owl
noble zinc
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Wanshi only stays

orchid owl
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if you aren't sure who your best amp is, send huaxu

radiant panther
# orchid owl bro explain what you just did

Timeline:
be me
I saw teddy
saw the mission requiring 10k
pull why not
I got teddy in 20 pulls
bought the available shards from service
ppc shards
pulled for weap
got offrated
pissed
pull cub
did 10
got it

orchid owl
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omg @real jackal I hope I still got your attention, I'm dumb as a rock
you should use LILITH not echo instead of ayla

nova quarry
orchid owl
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Lilith is gen 3 amp and you have her at SSS so she gives you QTE reset on swap

orchid owl
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and she of course triggers memories

real jackal
radiant panther
orchid owl
real jackal
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speaking of void, how big a boost is sss luna from ss3?

orchid owl
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QTE nuke on leap so dw about that

dawn cloak
orchid owl
dawn cloak
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Oh then just Lilith

real jackal
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i have like, 65k bc rn

orchid owl
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ok maybe he is

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nah nvm

deft apex
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qu gone this is so tragic

orchid owl
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at some point I had 60k bc in synchro

remote fossil
deft apex
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khaled isn't even here anymore truly over

real jackal
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nah, just super lucky with banners. been playing since launch, so not hitting pity a few times added up. i just buy monthly pass and occasional bps

orchid owl
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you reap what you sow ig

dawn cloak
remote fossil
orchid owl
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where is our #1 qu hater

dawn cloak
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Teddy dropped ma boi

deft apex
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oh he is here actually

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it's not over

dawn cloak
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Where u at

orchid owl
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no you ditch qu completely

remote fossil
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Nah, just add sss lilith

orchid owl
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use free SSS amp if you have like lilith, echo

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if not SSS that's fine too

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but obviously that is preferred

dawn cloak
deft apex
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wtf new font

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again

orchid owl
remote fossil
remote fossil
orchid owl
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why do we level cubs? johnroblox

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I just realized, is there a point?

carmine reef
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No

orchid owl
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they have damage but barely anything

remote fossil
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No i guess

orchid owl
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man

carmine reef
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Same for leveling actives

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No point

orchid owl
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I wasted a couple things for that lmao

dawn cloak
orchid owl
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small brick

carmine reef
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But, the cub exp mats can only be used for cub exp

orchid owl
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ik that

carmine reef
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So use whatever you get from events and stuff

orchid owl
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but overclock materials can be lacking

dawn cloak
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Sometimes you got that tiny line of enemy HP
And cub active skill can kill that waves

carmine reef
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But i wouldn't buy them from sim shop

remote fossil
carmine reef
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I am but

remote fossil
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Oh wait

carmine reef
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Thats cause i have excess

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As most veterans should

orchid owl
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knocking enemies away trollded

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scam attack

dawn cloak
dawn cloak
remote fossil
orchid owl
dawn cloak
orchid owl
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the fine print:
random mem resos

remote fossil
carmine reef
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When i build A ranks i do perfect

orchid owl
carmine reef
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But i dont build them unless they'll be useful for gb

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So like

orchid owl
carmine reef
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Nah i mean

orchid owl
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if you get lux, arclight, palefire, luminance

carmine reef
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Some A ranks will never need to be built

remote fossil
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Sophia for example

carmine reef
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Lumi is S rank bruh

orchid owl
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I forgor skule

carmine reef
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Lux dont need to be built

orchid owl
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she is so bad she is an A-rank to me

carmine reef
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Healer class dont do nothing

merry blaze
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uh, just wanna know, what's the ICE team used now? with the new teddy

carmine reef
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The only ones that need resos are the tanks and the probable dps

orchid owl
remote fossil
clever gulch
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hello, what would be the best memory set for a SS/SSS R1 Teddy in a team with SS3 R1 wanshi and SS qu ?

merry blaze
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oh okay

carmine reef
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So the only ones i built for gb are like

orchid owl
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don't use Qu anymore though

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use your best amplifier

carmine reef
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Teddy, bridget, discord, noctis (from before), yata, palefire for dps

orchid owl
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best amp: SSS or R2 that is NOT ayla

carmine reef
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Very unlikely that none of those are present

merry blaze
orchid owl
clever gulch
merry blaze
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ah okay ty

remote fossil
orchid owl
carmine reef
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Ish wont be usable

clever gulch
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my lilith is only SS

orchid owl
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then geiravor is fine

clever gulch
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In an ice team ? how would that even play out

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qte bot ?

orchid owl
dawn cloak
orchid owl
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she is a kitten now

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put her in dorm to pet

clever gulch
merry blaze
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got it

orchid owl
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you need 4 da vinci 4 guinevere

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she should have her own set if you can afford it, sometimes she is used as a QTE bot for ppc runs

remote fossil
orchid owl
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the % percent it gives can make a difference

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like for ish I used other character's 4 shakes for ppc runs
the 6 ult missing cost me like 4-6 health bars

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when I gave her her own 4 piece set she did a lot more damage

clever gulch
orchid owl
clever gulch
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Oh XD

radiant panther
orchid owl
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he said you would rather have SSS teddy sooner than get her sig + cub and have her at SS rank

dawn cloak
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Also.....if you wanna use Bianca Ray affix as meta
You need SSS Teddy minimum

radiant panther
wind hemlock
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So raydiance is even more useless than true slash?

orchid owl
fluid gulch
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Can SSS teddy make ss0 midanca less mid?

orchid owl
fluid gulch
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That doesn't sound hopefulLivOhNo

orchid owl
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she will help with stacking raydiance and give her nice buffs

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but bianca is cursed/made to be as she is now

fluid gulch
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fck kuso

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Why can't they make good characters

dawn cloak
orchid owl
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they can, but they don't anymore

dawn cloak
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So expensive

radiant panther
fluid gulch
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I remember in my time ss0 was enuff

orchid owl
remote fossil
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They fumbled on bianca, surely they gonna do it also on alphalulw

dawn cloak
remote fossil
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Both are cash grabbers

fluid gulch
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She's gonna be BUSTED

dawn cloak
radiant panther
remote fossil
wind hemlock
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As busted as CW who got outDPSed in one patch? lulw

radiant panther
orchid owl
remote fossil
carmine reef
radiant panther
fluid gulch
carmine reef
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CW was the strongest unit in the game for a solid half year

nova quarry
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is spider 2b's rotation guide worth learning or nah

orchid owl
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I banked on that hard

orchid owl
remote fossil
fluid gulch
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Wasn't it THE most selling patch tho?

nova quarry
carmine reef
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No

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Well idk in cn

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In glb I'm pretty sure multiple sync patches topped cw

fluid gulch
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Ah, I forgor about CN

orchid owl
deft apex
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Anyone knows how much bc/tickets are on babylonia gamemode TeddyTooSmug

orchid owl
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also what spider2B said about ayla, I haven't watched further but basically he said you can run ayla with teddy, which makes it sound like you should, which is false
ayla is the worst teammate for teddy

deft apex
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I want exact numbers

orchid owl
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the chests themselves amount to a single pull I think

deft apex
orchid owl
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and there are like 30

zenith thorn
fluid gulch
remote fossil
fluid gulch
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Atleast that's what I remember

dawn cloak
rose yew
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Kuso bout to make alpha the first unit with three elements EvilLiv

remote fossil
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Oh wait, that's accumulated with the story

deft apex
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this is a lot of conflicting info

plain oyster
orchid owl
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look at ts

remote fossil
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For chest, i dont know how much

zenith thorn
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pyro is fire, electric and ion

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pyro is 70% fire,30% eletric

rose yew
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I’m still using dawn for electric DumbDawn

orchid owl
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ayla again LunaDepressed

zenith thorn
rose yew
nova quarry
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i have no idea whats going on but ill keep this in mind

carmine reef
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Why would you use ayla though

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She's just a worse option than like any other amp besides capri here

zenith thorn
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capri is good

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s+ tier unit

dawn cloak
#

Selena syndrome strikes again

zenith thorn
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you guys just aren't seeing it

carmine reef
dawn cloak
muted zenith
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ok i got teddy her wep and her pet by rolling

How do i SSS her quickly?

orchid owl
carmine reef
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SSS quickly is expensive

orchid owl
#

she's been bricked for so long

dawn cloak
remote fossil
dawn cloak
dawn cloak
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NOW!?

muted zenith
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yeah

orchid owl
muted zenith
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no i mean i can still get her from voucher

i got her SS rn

how many voucher shards do i need to SSS her?

deft apex
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babylonia is indeed 2.5k yellows

remote fossil
zenith thorn
#

ok chat how old is Daren now

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in days

orchid owl
#

@muted zenith you need to pull teddy once, and get 20 shards from voucher shop + 30 shards from ppc shop + 50 shards from service shop, then if you don't want to wait 2 months for SSS you can wait 8 days for voucher shop reset and after buying her 20 shards with discount, buy 20 more without

dawn cloak
orchid owl
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wild skule

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some themed believer you are

carmine reef
dawn cloak
dawn cloak
orchid owl
#

how does Altera have so many pulls anyway

carmine reef
#

Lol

orchid owl
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like 50k event tickets???

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is he buying the entire shop? Die

orchid owl
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but isn't he S+ing

dawn cloak
#

Altera whel so much he forgor ppc shop exist

remote fossil
carmine reef
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I guess

zenith thorn
#

also cn is hella generous with packs

carmine reef
#

But its really unlikely that it matters

orchid owl
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OH IT'S CN

zenith thorn
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as opposed go

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glb

carmine reef
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600% on a 0 dmg qte bot

orchid owl
zenith thorn
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to which glb is ccked

orchid owl
#

what else CN got over us besides RC price and amount?

remote fossil
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Time

zenith thorn
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iirc better packs

orchid owl
carmine reef
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Better packs and mp

zenith thorn
#

i forgot what it was specifically

orchid owl
zenith thorn
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but insanely better value

carmine reef
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The reason glb has mpa and mpc is cause kuro scamge us

orchid owl
#

bro why is CN being glazed so much

zenith thorn
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bcus

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cn

fluid gulch
orchid owl
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like if they just shutdown global it will surely have some monetary fallout

carmine reef
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Cn has mp with value of mpc and cost of mpa

orchid owl
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MPC is the worse one

carmine reef
#

Oh sorry

keen sable
#

watch them give qu a leap next patch so people have to play her

zenith thorn
#

zex washed af

carmine reef
#

Yeah other way around

orchid owl
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lmao

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all good

zenith thorn
#

just kiwi

orchid owl
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like you? johnroblox

carmine reef
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Point is cn gets best of both

remote fossil
orchid owl
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it's insane damn

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I thought it was just rc

keen sable
orchid owl
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is everything else the same price? like skins?

carmine reef
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Skins i think are the same

zenith thorn
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yeah they have bluerose

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we dont

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cn +1

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smh

fluid gulch
#

who tf cares in 2025

keen sable
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the only thing i swiped in pgr was monthly and 30rc bp

dawn cloak
orchid owl
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what's worse there?

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and how is any of this a saving grace skule

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servers being gatekept

dawn cloak
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Just 2nd or 3rd bottom

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Still bottom tho

remote fossil
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Who plays on kr anyway

carmine reef
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Kr is dead dead

orchid owl
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I don't even understand
if they give the same treatment to GLB then they should receive more no??

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like it's not a huge math

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if I can get more for less I will buy more

fluid gulch
#

CN players might complain tho

orchid owl
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complain about what?? none of their business?

carmine reef
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Nah he's right

orchid owl
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boohoo the people on the otherside of the world are getting the same prices as us

carmine reef
#

Cn gamers are super petty

orchid owl
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I know how it is but wtf is that bs

dawn cloak
carmine reef
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It's happened before

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In many games

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Cn complains about other regions having things

stray siren
orchid owl
dawn cloak
orchid owl
dawn cloak
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Were killing people cri

orchid owl
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it's funny how China is supposed to be this monitored country with dictators but people just go around doing whatever they wish whenever they wish

orchid owl
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idk what game it was

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gacha probably

dawn cloak
#

Not killed tho lol
But yeah, its actually THAT bad

dawn cloak
carmine reef
#

It was a hoyo game

dawn cloak
#

Honkai 3rd impact

carmine reef
#

Prolly hi3 if

orchid owl
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of course

dawn cloak
#

~~ PGR copycat ~~

carmine reef
orchid owl
#

it's crazy

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them CN people need to be locked in jail or something

dawn cloak
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Tho for details

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EN will be given bunnysuit special event
Which doesnt exist on CN
As a fair compensation for many CN exclusive event that doesnt enter EN

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Then the CN peeps got mad

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So all in all, if outside CN server got special event, CN must get it also
If only outside CN is shafted, its ok

fluid gulch
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Yea

orchid owl
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idk why they make a game favorable towards CN in the first place

dawn cloak
orchid owl
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just release everything globally

orchid owl
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companies be running the game in china for years, then release to global

dawn cloak
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Nationalism. Cant have that

fluid gulch
orchid owl
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you don't see capcom releasing only in japan

dawn cloak
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Also when EN giant companies glazes CN too for money
It makes more reason for CN to be more prideful

dawn cloak
orchid owl
dawn cloak
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Then again, capcom kinda already westernized.
Since original RE and DMC got NONE of the JP dubbing
Its full EN dubbing, even for JP people

deft apex
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for those people that keep reposting my unupdated screenshot

dawn cloak
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So capcom not really good example

fluid gulch
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Look at hoyogames and their mandatory china themed patch in EVERY game

carmine reef
#

Well

zenith thorn
deft apex
#

ok

carmine reef
#

Not every company starts out with enough resources to instantly launch globally

orchid owl
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I played REmake 4 with japanese dub

dawn cloak
#

Not original bruh

orchid owl
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I know but you said the releases didn't get the JP dub

carmine reef
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It's reasonable for their home region to launch first

dawn cloak
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Play RE1

carmine reef
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But thats still no excuse to shaft other regions in things like pricing

orchid owl
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and older games didn't have voiceover selection

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I found this about the JP exclusive releases

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it seems to be a smaller scale

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I'm not gonna lose my sht over something like this, but PGR is just straight up unfair, like Zexous said
different pricing, and not just a few dollars either

keen sable
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china is better

carmine reef
dawn cloak
keen sable
dawn cloak
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No popular/respected CN gacha games does that currently
Except PGR EvilLiv

orchid owl
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"popular"

carmine reef
dawn cloak
dawn cloak
carmine reef
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Jp store also has things listed directly in yen

orchid owl
#

not a good comparison

carmine reef
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And rc in cn is scaled 1:1 with yuan

remote fossil
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Iirc, en still didn't get discount? from playstore

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Idk the correct terms

radiant panther
orchid owl
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PGR is not popular enough because of these issues (if I had to guess)
either that or it's just still their bad marketing

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and menu johnroblox

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6 years and they couldn't make a navigatable UI

carmine reef
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I think pgr is just not meant to be the most casual friendly game

clever gulch
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How good is teddy's cub ? I can soon SS a cub for free thx to revival plan, should I use it on her ? I hesitate between hers, wanshi's or pianissimo's

dawn cloak
radiant panther
remote fossil
orchid owl
fluid gulch
orchid owl
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PGR technically has more meta content than casual

carmine reef
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Drawing people in is part of what makes a game casual friendly

radiant panther
orchid owl
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and I barely see them anyway, only time they pop-up is in discord player

carmine reef
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If it doesn't have broad appeal its not really casual friendly even if the gameplay is, which also isn't necessarily the case

dawn cloak
carmine reef
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Need either open world like hoyo stuff, or really chill gameplay you can do with minimal attention and effort

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Pgr has neither

dawn cloak
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Yea even PGR non meta isnt really chill

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Maybe with babylonia it'll change
Dunno

orchid owl
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I really don't get it
people are being stupidified or something

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play candy crush if you don't want to pay attention or doomscroll tiktok

carmine reef
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I mean

fluid gulch
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That's kinda what people do nowadays?

dawn cloak
carmine reef
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I get why it started, since these games were originally supposed to appeal to working adults on public transit and stuff

orchid owl
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these people aren't exploring the world, they are just following the objective markers and watching the cutscene while spamming left click in each fight

carmine reef
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But its definitely too normalized now

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To the point that gacha gamers feel weird when they ARE asked to pay attention

radiant panther
carmine reef
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I do prefer the pgr format of auto looping the tedious stuff and requiring actual gameplay for the important stuff

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But so many other gacha games put like 90% of their entire gameplay loop on auto or near auto now

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That people just come to expect that now

dawn cloak
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Worse of all, they are the most paying groups
If those casuls didnt bring much money, company can just ignore them and didnt market to them
Casual whels are still the biggest contributor to revenue

keen sable
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waiting for new gacha

dawn cloak
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No gacha might be the new meta going forward

keen sable
#

well i play other games

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only running a monthly and wuwa, rest just full f2p

dawn cloak
#

Gacha got worldwide popular not really bcs of the gacha
But bcs western game were too shiet
And other AAA devs too

When small niche gacha can have better gameplay, ppl moved to gacha

keen sable
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yea ididnt like e33

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going from A to B in that game was a chore for me

carmine reef
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I dont really think its bc of that

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It's because of the mobile market

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Western mobile games didnt go hard enough

keen sable
#

covid started the gacha hype

dawn cloak
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Oh interesting. You do have actual western point of view
Me just asian outside east asia EvilLiv

orchid owl
zenith thorn
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e33 stole my diploma award

orchid owl
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best phone game I ever played was Soul Knight

zenith thorn
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now im jobless and 30k in debt

carmine reef
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Western companies dont put nearly as much effort into mobile market, which makes sense because of difference in how we use our phones

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But even in the west mobile gaming becomes more and more prominent

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And the gacha game devs were there to capitalize

dawn cloak
#

Yea, smartphone market were really improving fast too

drifting cipher
#

So, if I want to SSS Teddy right now, do I have to summon a copy first?

carmine reef
#

Western game devs still perform well in the markets they actually put effort into, they just were too slow to get in on the mobile market

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They just did like

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Candy crush and clash of clans and whatnot

hasty bluff
#

any recommendations on how to get teddy ? like should i pull a copy from r and d ? or use skulls and the 50 vouchers from the shop and the voucher shop in general ?

carmine reef
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And left it at that extent of a game

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Teddy and all her stuff can be obtained completely free

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If you are patient

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Pulling is for the impatient whels

hasty bluff
#

alright will be patient then

crystal rune
dawn cloak
crystal rune
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50 shards from event 30 shards from ppc 270 shards from vouchers

carmine reef
#

270
Fk whel

hasty bluff
carmine reef
#

S+ dirty nasty

dawn cloak
carmine reef
dawn cloak
hasty bluff
carmine reef
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Gacha games few years ago by and large didn't have pc port at all

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But mobile will always remain the dominant market for these games

stray siren
#

How to access Service missions? EvilLiv

carmine reef
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As it is the largest market in gaming overall anyway

stray siren
#

I can't read

dawn cloak
#

No as in the graphic fidelity, gameplay, ui
All built with pc user in mind

I cant see wuwa, arknights endfield, silver palace, etc were designed to be mainly mobile game

carmine reef
#

They are

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Phones are just like that now

fluid gulch
#

Black Beacon EoSed before they got pc portlulw

dawn cloak
#

They werent at first

carmine reef
#

People in asia spend as much money as we spend on gaming pcs, on gaming mobiles

dawn cloak
#

Its not about how powerful the phone is

carmine reef
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Ofc they are lower grade but these games aren't optimized well for pc either lol

#

Mobile will always remain the main target for them

dawn cloak
fluid gulch
dawn cloak
carmine reef
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Bruh

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I haven't played those other games but even just menuing in wuwa makes it very obvious it's mobile forward

dawn cloak
#

Well then Im curious
What makes u believe that Genshin is indeed initially marketed as mainly mobile game?

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Genshin is the first pioneer

dawn cloak
fluid gulch
carmine reef
#

Menuing+control schemes are all mobile forward, not to mention mobile gaming is the primary market in asia rn
But also

#

Genshin is not really the pioneer lol

dawn cloak
#

Oh mission, then mission tab

stray siren
dawn cloak
carmine reef
#

Oh for entering pc market

stray siren
carmine reef
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Maybe. But like i said, its still mobile forward and you can feel it from the controls and ui

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Like, as an example, holding to drag in menus

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While scroll wheel gets shafted because it's only discrete scroll with no momentum

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Purely mobile forward design

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And i see this in every gacha game I've played

carmine reef
dawn cloak
#

But I still feel they were trying to break free from gacha being mobile game
And makes it legit pc game, with mobile compatibility

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Instead of mobile game with pc port

carmine reef
#

If you really don't want to believe these games are designed mobile forward, to the point that you want to believe these multimillion dollar companies with multiple games and experience developing them, chooses to maintain mobile forward controls just because of lack of experience

#

Idk man

dawn cloak
#

Hoyo got no PC game experience when developing Genshin tho?

carmine reef
#

Ofc they want to expand out of "just" being mobile games

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But mobile is waaaaaay larger market

#

Mobile gaming is larger than all other gaming platforms combined

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And even more so in asia

carmine reef
dawn cloak
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If youre talking like right now, yea they realize mobile is still far larger
Even the CN devs were saying that as their reason, a dillemma of why they cant go all out developing new PC gacha games
But initially is that the case? Is what I mean

carmine reef
#

As does every other gacha game

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Huh

#

Initially it was even more the case

#

Gacha games started as mobile only to begin with

#

The expansion to pc is what is recent

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If you go back to this genre from a few years ago you need an emulator to play on pc

dawn cloak
carmine reef
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Because of zelda

dawn cloak
#

What zelda have to do with it 💀
I guess western view reality is just that different

carmine reef
#

When genshin came out

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It was when botw was really popular

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And in the west

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Thats how genshin was marketed

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Every single person jumping on genshin hypetrain when it came out was like omg look f2p botw

#

I played genshin on release too

fluid gulch
dawn cloak
#

Hmmm I see, interesting
I guess theres a big difference on perspective

carmine reef
#

You're saying the same thing as me

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Whether its positive or negative, the point is that genshin was linked as a parallel to botw

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And the people who would see this parallel and know about it were not mobile gamers

#

Console gamers (who played botw) or pc gamers (who missed out on botw, like me lmaoyeet )

#

At that time mobile gaming in the west was purely casual stuff like candy crush anyway, marketing genshin for mobile wouldn't have worked in the west at that time

hasty bluff
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i wanted to know one more thing

#

there are 2 missions in service shop which ask to spend 10k r and d tickets and 25k respectively

carmine reef
#

Sounds like bait

hasty bluff
#

but without them we cannot get all 50 shards + wep+ cub right ?

dawn cloak
dawn cloak
hasty bluff
dawn cloak
clever gulch
#

Lmao what

hasty bluff
clever gulch
hasty bluff
#

kuro be playing mind games

carmine reef
#

Smol indie dev

#

Pls understand

hasty bluff
dawn cloak
carmine reef
#

Dont aim for it

#

You said you were f2p flusus

hasty bluff
#

i will only dream it sir

carmine reef
#

Good

dawn cloak
#

Dream big they said DumbDawn

hasty bluff
#

being a f2p means only dreams

carmine reef
#

Hey it's okay

#

This genre thrives on fomo

#

Everyone is looking up and dreaming of what the ppl above them have

#

Only the 444 333 mfs are free

hasty bluff
#

if i didn't whale for ishmael , the sole reason i started this game , i ain't wheling for nothing

hasty bluff
#

it is always about punishing

#

the gray raven

upper steppe
#

So is the current consensus on Teddy that she's replacing Qu and Ayla stays on for the support memories, or has that changed since beta?

dawn cloak
grand jay
#

Teddy resos?

carmine reef
#

When i was broke newbie with S 5* i was dreaming about invests like i have now with SS0/3 R1/R2
Now i dream about the SSS mfs

grand jay
#

I wish I could use my skulls for more frags omg

#

Im 6 off SSS

upper steppe
#

A week?! Man, being caught up to CN is rough

dawn cloak
grand jay
#

Awesomesauce

carmine reef
hasty bluff
grand jay
#

Reset should get me all the frags i need 😁

dawn cloak
hasty bluff
#

deep inside we are all gamblers and the house always wins

carmine reef
#

It's that he wheled more than he needed to

#

I've seen ew do it before also

fluid gulch
#

Kuro making me look at chikos bazongas close-up everytime I restart the stageDumbDawn

hasty bluff
carmine reef
#

These phat s+ whels will swipe before they actually read

#

And then find out they didnt even need to swipe

dawn cloak
#

If everyone reads and be smart, all gacha companies will go bankrupt

carmine reef
hasty bluff
#

does this channel have gifs perms ?

dawn cloak
#

Yus

carmine reef
hasty bluff
#

the whale effect

carmine reef
#

Also idk how long it was because i wasn't there but i believe it took a while before ppl cooked the balter 1.5/2.5 rot stuff

#

For a while on balter release they were just playing straight rot like her subdps playstyle

dawn cloak
#

Yea, meta is everchanging need to adapt now
No more straight copying CN cook

fluid gulch
#

I can't fully trust CN now after Vera situationEvilLiv

carmine reef
#

Yeah faith lost in cn

#

We are our own gods

#

Put your faith in the dalaos you can see and feel

fluid gulch
carmine reef
#

Rydle my goat

hasty bluff
#

idk about cn or veera situation i blindly follow whatever this channel and wind-bell tells me . warzone is brick anyways

fluid gulch
#

Most of dalaos are long gone

carmine reef
#

The dalaos who are gone were mostly just watching cn stuff anyway

hasty bluff
#

ppc matters the most , say no to wz .(f2p cope)

carmine reef
#

The ppl who make their own rots are like, empress (status unknown?), kurai (gone), rydle (present), me (present)

fluid gulch
#

I'm NOT malding PPC

carmine reef
#

And windbell (present)

#

Maybe acaxi too i dont really interact with them

hasty bluff
#

that's enough malding for me

carmine reef
#

Nuke cooks so many microadjustments you could probably call him capable of making rots too

#

But i think he still just watches cn stuff and tries to match it mostly

hasty bluff
#

i have accepted that i am filthy casual hanging on the meta help as my saviour and yt dalaos like windbell

#

and empress sometimes

fluid gulch
#

I used his vids as a reference a couple of times

carmine reef
#

Azriel is probably still around too

#

Zazalao

hasty bluff
#

zazalao ? never heard of that

carmine reef
#

He is the dalao of zaza

hasty bluff
stray siren
carmine reef
hasty bluff
#

zazalao must be goated for new players

#

the ability to cook without teams

carmine reef
#

Tbh not lol

hasty bluff
carmine reef
#

Kurai was the best person for the new players

#

And he's the only one i listed who is most definitely gone

#

Rip

hasty bluff
#

wait i remember seeing his vid

carmine reef
#

Azriel is like mid to high invest

hasty bluff
#

probably watanabe i don't remember correctly

carmine reef
#

He's usually higher invest than me

#

Kurai was out there cooking 5* shenanigans

hasty bluff
carmine reef
#

I used to do that

hazy sandal
#

Easy

carmine reef
#

When it was my invest

#

But it's not my invest anymore so i dont now

#

I only cook for my own account and my own account has bare minimum now

hasty bluff
#

i remeber trying wata solo in wz and ppc results were bad but the process was fun . sigless , reso less, memo less, homeless

carmine reef
#

I can kind of feel that but a lot of that is the mental chains you put on yourself

#

Like when you know more and especially when you spend more time in a meta oriented space like this

#

You develop higher standards for yourself

hasty bluff
carmine reef
#

And sometimes that makes it less fun than when you're a newbie just figuring things out and doing whatever

hasty bluff
#

gacha games like any other games become boring after a period

fluid gulch
hasty bluff
#

unc carried me

carmine reef
#

Until wata came i had 111 555 fire and that was after using my standard banner check on it too, the very first one

#

In those days i remember my first hero promotion was by using lamia in fire zone

hasty bluff
#

and i also remember missing luna lol, i got bricked hard for that and not selecting the bow in free wep pack

carmine reef
carmine reef
#

And hero actually meant something back then

fluid gulch
#

I'm sorry

hasty bluff
carmine reef
#

Lamia was actually my goat

#

I think it was dark fire week

hasty bluff
carmine reef
#

With lamia weather

fluid gulch
#

I can slacc off, do 1 zone, forget about other 2 and STILL retain

carmine reef
#

So i promoted off the back of using only lamia

#

My goat