#📨・meta-help
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Fck tomi
My homies never take him seriously

Teddy is hungry
Theres also that
QuTE 4dv holder 
She wants field time
cuz qu can't hold gui 
💢
😭



is discord sss+ worth it as vergil alternative for ultima slash?
Ice team back at maintaining the agenda of one of the worse team
Nope
You better pray brother
Just dont do ultima brick
no no no no no...
No vergil? Dont play ts
No hanying? Dont play ts
Slap Glacio and it's gucci
Glacio propagada accepted
just don't play ts anyway, ez 
Here Qu with Teddy #📨・meta-help message
Watch this man cooking
Vergil ts is pretty fun
Its all Hanying fault
Its all Hanying fault
Rosetta, please save us
i'll just use glacio i guess
She can't
who is that noob
Take back her previous job
Just fkng powercreep karenina bro 💔
No Dark Tank til 2030
its not even 10m this team so washed
That Zaza is going stronk
@orchid owl
I guess I can make it work? Since my qu is sss

I DONT HAVE HOMELESS PHYS ACC
If Qu higher rank than Teddy yea can work
Its more about when everyone same rank invest
He likes them poor
my account is 2.32.32.3vero3alisa its pretty homeless
Fk yeah my sss qu aint wasted
He wants S rank BNanami 
i need 211 155 + selena pet atleast
siren - bnanami - echo
Welp, as long as you play her SSS correctly

thats not homeless anymore, thats maso
Is it that 1 tap full ult?
im gonna edit this first
i can send you details for my depressed acc
tag me guys if you has homeless invest
sure
aite
dm
I have 222 phys

No, you just don't have rights
It's the lowest scoring team on my acc by a pretty significant margin
Dogshet element
Dayum so many chiko folder collection
Mines prolly fire its ass
so how bad is teddy
Kicks qu
How bad is ur ass
Prove it
uhhh
Damn your ass is not bad?
🍞
Didnt know you were like that fabs
i need 211 155 + selena pet atleast
siren - bnanami - echo
You were serious about that?

Who the hell has s bananami, you get shards for her from ppc every week
my invest is
(2.3-1.3) = 1
(2.3-1.3) = 1
(2.3-1.3) = 1
111
banned
implementing the burn style mem set(2 Ice boost user)
Time to hypertune her
NO 
Yes 

Is teddy's build not bait like liv?
joanna top or bot
almost similar to Bianca
but its bianca style
Tbh, why would you wanna lose 4Joanna effects

I tried Cottie, worse than Chen
Why ching chong again like 500k more than me in same place
Prob because Teddy rot so slow
Same server? 
~~ racist smh ~~
Clearly hes a better whel bro 
kuso really likes to put double bear waves now

i cant remember the last time there was a boss zone without double bears
Wat teddy inputs?
Wanshi coming on bears?
no i am
There's definitely a doujin for that
What
no its the bears coming on qu
It's near 700k wtf

Should I spend voucher to get more Teddy ? (Like SS or SS3)
Am not even overkilling evey aren't even that squishy
Buy the 20 discount shards per month sure
After that it's recommended to wait for the next monthly reset for the discount to reset
Ok thx
maybe wanshi can hold eniste ?
idk im not use it yet 

where 4 joanna
Anyone know what cub to use on vergil If i don't have his sig cub?
doesn't matter
can use lingya
Alr ty
do you have his sig?
Yeah I have his weapon, just not the cub
alr good
Ching buff in the chong game
Thats why
9.5 should be avrg
Peak should be 10 am probably doing smthing wrong
Idk
what are these zazas bro
or any other gen 2 amp with R2
R2 whel
literally all of them have double tick heal except ayla 
does teddy need dlt
sorry I meant like if you have R2 amp (except ayla) that's preferable, if not then just any double tick amp
apparently not
What input for new teddy guys?
but wait for it
so for new ice team, sss ayla>ss3 qu?
why ayla tho 
everybody obsessed with her
cow
Where are my chiko achievement skulls kuro
literally every other off ele amp, even echo as a phys amp is better
you just need someone to proc memories
4 guin and 4 dv mainly
really? why?
well teddy is a gen 3 ice amp
ayla is a gen 2 ice amp
what do you think who will give better buffs, looking at kits exclusively?
when you come to the conclusion that teddy will, it doesn't matter anymore what element the other amp is, it only matters who can trigger the support memories
Is cottie better than chen jiyuan on sss qu??
right, but why would kaleido be worse than the other amps?
good question
the answer is: kuro messed her up
can i get a more specific answer? what specifically is fked up about ayla?
she is a single tick healer, meaning to trigger the effects of 4 guin (heal 2 times) she needs QTE 2 times instead of 1 time like every other amp (including empyrea, feral, echo from the gen 2 line-up)
unless you have R2 on ayla and no other amp, she doesn't have anything else going for her besides that
but having R2 on ayla, you would have to be a regular spender
at that point, you have at least R1 on everyone
if not R2
ye i got her at r3 sss
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Damn...
can use echo, she is SSS R2 aswell
and she is a double tick healer unlike ayla
you have hypertuned resonated memories on her too
no sig
it's free
or are you saying you grabbed teddy from service shop? 
echo's guineveres arent ht
oh right
well it don't matter, I was just saying that as a side note
you don't even need to field echo
QTE bot with 4 dv 4 guin
what's booba monster running for raydiance
so you have teddy with 27 shards bought
why?
anything i should change for wz physical?
Arguably only SSS Vera can be fielded on ice
For insta ult1
Then again, still off ele 
oh wait, did you buy 13 shards with voucher?
vouchers 23
20 max discount
Why forced buy when u can wait
plus got lucky with the pulls(20) so SS3 and the sig got offrated
SS0 from skull + sig wp is better btw 
I have money you dont
you pulled teddy, and tried to SSS before getting her sig and cub?
SS3 max
and you tried pulling her weapon? 
He wants reso


whos getting yeeted here
Qu-te
ayla and shukra
ayla for your best gen 2/3 amp
shukra for teddy
Wanshi only stays
if you aren't sure who your best amp is, send huaxu
Timeline:
be me
I saw teddy
saw the mission requiring 10k
pull why not
I got teddy in 20 pulls
bought the available shards from service
ppc shards
pulled for weap
got offrated
pissed
pull cub
did 10
got it
omg @real jackal I hope I still got your attention, I'm dumb as a rock
you should use LILITH not echo instead of ayla
Lilith is gen 3 amp and you have her at SSS so she gives you QTE reset on swap
Next patch: broke
and she of course triggers memories
i mean, tbf, it didn't even cross my mind either considering lilith is used in like void team too
💔
it doesn't matter honestly, unless you are gonna do ppc and it's ephi or primal projection
speaking of void, how big a boost is sss luna from ss3?
pretty nice, more ult damage, more core passive damage
QTE nuke on leap so dw about that
Btw do you have SSS Vera?
If yes then Vera over Lilith ig
nahh
he ain't whel like me 
ss0 vera
Oh then just Lilith
i have like, 65k bc rn
qu gone this is so tragic
at some point I had 60k bc in synchro
Vera can do one ult eh? So wanshi just 2 ult instead?
khaled isn't even here anymore truly over
nah, just super lucky with banners. been playing since launch, so not hitting pity a few times added up. i just buy monthly pass and occasional bps
crazy that you are in discord and didn't ask any questions about this, or checked out the service shop since you were already in-game
you reap what you sow ig
Bro will have SSS Teddy + sig wp R2 + SS cub ~~ next year ~~ next week
But gonna suffer with sigless Teddy now 💀
And surely broke on next patch
Teddy dropped ma boi
Where u at
no you ditch qu completely
Nah, just add sss lilith
use free SSS amp if you have like lilith, echo
if not SSS that's fine too
but obviously that is preferred
Enter just to insta ult1. 0.5 sec at max
really?
I see
Dont realised that
No
they have damage but barely anything
No i guess
man
I wasted a couple things for that lmao
Breakpoint ig 
small brick
But, the cub exp mats can only be used for cub exp
So use whatever you get from events and stuff
but overclock materials can be lacking
Sometimes you got that tiny line of enemy HP
And cub active skill can kill that waves
But i wouldn't buy them from sim shop
Who lvling up active aside passive anyways
I am but
Oh wait
Crazy that whels still lacking mats
Gather is overrated kuro says 
Well 1 * 200%
I have this much
and I built every single A-rank with 5* and 6 piece memory set


the fine print:
random mem resos
I also on the verge of lacking
When i build A ranks i do perfect
I only did that for discord
I mean, it all depends on who is in the random rotation
Nah i mean
if you get lux, arclight, palefire, luminance
Some A ranks will never need to be built
Sophia for example
Lumi is S rank bruh
I forgor 
Lux dont need to be built
she is so bad she is an A-rank to me
Healer class dont do nothing
uh, just wanna know, what's the ICE team used now? with the new teddy
The only ones that need resos are the tanks and the probable dps
depends on your best amp
teddy, wanshi, best amp
Well, lumi not truly even exist tbh
hello, what would be the best memory set for a SS/SSS R1 Teddy in a team with SS3 R1 wanshi and SS qu ?
oh okay
So the only ones i built for gb are like
teddy memories still W.I.P
don't use Qu anymore though
use your best amplifier
Teddy, bridget, discord, noctis (from before), yata, palefire for dps
best amp: SSS or R2 that is NOT ayla
Very unlikely that none of those are present
would SS3 lilith be okay?
sure
i technically have an SS R2 geiravor and a SS R2 ishmael
ah okay ty
Ishmael useless here
good
if your lilith is SSS and has R2 too you can use her instead
Ish wont be usable
my lilith is only SS
then geiravor is fine
obviously
Qu kicked out unless she is severely higher ranked than Teddy
But everything still tested anyway
then i should probably modify her memories right because rn she's on 4 cottie 4 shake
got it
if you are poor (simulated coins) you can use other amplifier's set on her
you need 4 da vinci 4 guinevere
she should have her own set if you can afford it, sometimes she is used as a QTE bot for ppc runs
Just dump 4 dv 4 guin also fine, no need to get class skill tbh

class skill doesn't hurt with amps
the % percent it gives can make a difference
like for ish I used other character's 4 shakes for ppc runs
the 6 ult missing cost me like 4-6 health bars
when I gave her her own 4 piece set she did a lot more damage
what is WIP ?
work in progress
Oh XD
Ill stick with SS3 not going to SSS unlike Bianca, not again bruda, plus im satisfied with current teddy
you misunderstood what he said 
he said you would rather have SSS teddy sooner than get her sig + cub and have her at SS rank
Why would I 3S her? I still have Lilith to 3s
she is another lilith that's why
Can SSS teddy make ss0 midanca less mid?
a little 
That doesn't sound hopeful
she will help with stacking raydiance and give her nice buffs
but bianca is cursed/made to be as she is now
Solon's wife
they can, but they don't anymore
So expensive
Nah I got priorities
I remember in my time ss0 was enuff
I can tell
it was a priority for you to pull everything before looking around 
They fumbled on bianca, surely they gonna do it also on alpha
Bro's mind is broken by priestess 💀
Nah
Both are cash grabbers
She's gonna be BUSTED
I whale to speed things up ofc
Yeah like i said
As busted as CW who got outDPSed in one patch? 
"would you shake a poor sinner's hand?"
you might be whaling to speed things up but you are backpedalling yourself 
She's stonk in beta yet they bother to make her really worth at sss
Looks like someone fell for ezra propaganda
Im good thanks for your concern
Kuso will make DAMN SURE Alpha is op asf, actually, I think it's Kuso master plan™ making every other character before new alpha weak asf just so she sells more
CW was the strongest unit in the game for a solid half year
is spider 2b's rotation guide worth learning or nah
I banked on that hard
for teddy?
And one of the most selling patch
Wasn't it THE most selling patch tho?
yeah, just need a rot to learn so i can use her tbh
I think you might be able to use his rotation, but just in case I recommend what ezra posted
here #📨・meta-help message
Anyone knows how much bc/tickets are on babylonia gamemode 
also what spider2B said about ayla, I haven't watched further but basically he said you can run ayla with teddy, which makes it sound like you should, which is false
ayla is the worst teammate for teddy
about a 10 pull, maybe 15-20
I want exact numbers
the chests themselves amount to a single pull I think

not 1, all together summed up
and there are like 30
2b is back to misinfo after sync :lmaocry:
2000
2.5k
Atleast that's what I remember
Free 20 gacha pulls 
2.5k yellow ticks
Kuso bout to make alpha the first unit with three elements 
Oh wait, that's accumulated with the story
this is a lot of conflicting info

that's pyro wdym
look at ts
For chest, i dont know how much
I’m still using dawn for electric 
ayla again 
get on with times old man

i have no idea whats going on but ill keep this in mind
Why would you use ayla though
She's just a worse option than like any other amp besides capri here
Selena syndrome strikes again
you guys just aren't seeing it


ok i got teddy her wep and her pet by rolling
How do i SSS her quickly?
people just forgot about what ayla does
SSS quickly is expensive
she's been bricked for so long
Wait next year
I mean, next week. Well it next year tho 
Yellow > ult > 3x white > red > hold ba until u see blue > blue > i still dunno how to trigger yellow > ult
how do i SSS her now?
For SSS+ maybe the ice dmg from Ayla qte is better for breakpoint
Dunno
But for SS0 yeah its nonexistant
yeah
ultimate zaza

no i mean i can still get her from voucher
i got her SS rn
how many voucher shards do i need to SSS her?
remembering yall that this sheet is goated
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r8iFS0PIB6KDwWg35MxwjZ0MBaIOjW1GYO5_qcvOYR4/edit?gid=140439683#gid=140439683
babylonia is indeed 2.5k yellows
I dunno how much u can get teddy shards for free now, probably u can get it around 50-60, so one more pull i guess
@muted zenith you need to pull teddy once, and get 20 shards from voucher shop + 30 shards from ppc shop + 50 shards from service shop, then if you don't want to wait 2 months for SSS you can wait 8 days for voucher shop reset and after buying her 20 shards with discount, buy 20 more without
Pull on fate #📨・meta-help message
#📨・meta-help message
Ayla doesn't give any extra ice dmg bonus on qte from ranks
No as in her qte does ice dmg
Not off ele dmg
how does Altera have so many pulls anyway
Lol
but isn't he S+ing
Altera whel so much he forgor ppc shop exist
Dunno, his bc already 95k
I guess
also cn is hella generous with packs
But its really unlikely that it matters
OH IT'S CN
600% on a 0 dmg qte bot

to which glb is ccked
what else CN got over us besides RC price and amount?
Time
iirc better packs
really? even those?
Better packs and mp
i forgot what it was specifically
what's the mp difference
but insanely better value
The reason glb has mpa and mpc is cause kuro scamge us
bro why is CN being glazed so much
I wonder why
like if they just shutdown global it will surely have some monetary fallout
Cn has mp with value of mpc and cost of mpa
not backwards?
MPC is the worse one
Oh sorry
watch them give qu a leap next patch so people have to play her
zex washed af
Yeah other way around
just kiwi
like you? 
Point is cn gets best of both
What affix can she get? Newest one?
no affix just dmg
is everything else the same price? like skins?
Skins i think are the same
who tf cares in 2025
the only thing i swiped in pgr was monthly and 30rc bp
The EN saving grace is, JP and KR got worse treatment
Usually JP got better treatment then EN even by CN company
wdym
what's worse there?
and how is any of this a saving grace 
servers being gatekept
Bcs EN not bottom of barrel
Just 2nd or 3rd bottom
Still bottom tho

Who plays on kr anyway
Kr is dead dead
I don't even understand
if they give the same treatment to GLB then they should receive more no??
like it's not a huge math
if I can get more for less I will buy more
CN players might complain tho
complain about what?? none of their business?
Nah he's right
boohoo the people on the otherside of the world are getting the same prices as us
Cn gamers are super petty
I know how it is but wtf is that bs
Theres a reason why a certain game
Named Black Bacon
Who are comprised of "former kurogame employee"
Are going downhill
Kurogames at release was wack, full of crazy stupid decision
It's happened before
In many games
Cn complains about other regions having things
Nah, one SSS in global cost me 200 bucks
In CN it would have cost me 130-150 
that game was bad from the start
genshin controls with top-down camera even if you picked the shoulder camera option
If its about CN, reminder hoyo CEO almost got killed just bcs exclusive special event in EN
I remember CN were killing people over a bunny suit skin on global
Were killing people 
it's funny how China is supposed to be this monitored country with dictators but people just go around doing whatever they wish whenever they wish
no joke, a CEO was almost killed
idk what game it was
gacha probably
Not killed tho lol
But yeah, its actually THAT bad
Hoyogaems
It was a hoyo game
Honkai 3rd impact
Prolly hi3 if
of course

Tho for details
EN will be given bunnysuit special event
Which doesnt exist on CN
As a fair compensation for many CN exclusive event that doesnt enter EN
Then the CN peeps got mad
So all in all, if outside CN server got special event, CN must get it also
If only outside CN is shafted, its ok
Yea
idk why they make a game favorable towards CN in the first place

just release everything globally
CN devs bruh
companies be running the game in china for years, then release to global
Nationalism. Cant have that
CN devs + CN players bring main revenue
you don't see capcom releasing only in japan
Also when EN giant companies glazes CN too for money
It makes more reason for CN to be more prideful
They did tho?
For some title

Then again, capcom kinda already westernized.
Since original RE and DMC got NONE of the JP dubbing
Its full EN dubbing, even for JP people
for those people that keep reposting my unupdated screenshot
So capcom not really good example
Look at hoyogames and their mandatory china themed patch in EVERY game
Well
can i repost you instead
ok
what?

Not every company starts out with enough resources to instantly launch globally
I played REmake 4 with japanese dub
I know but you said the releases didn't get the JP dub
It's reasonable for their home region to launch first
Play RE1
But thats still no excuse to shaft other regions in things like pricing
and older games didn't have voiceover selection
I found this about the JP exclusive releases
it seems to be a smaller scale
I'm not gonna lose my sht over something like this, but PGR is just straight up unfair, like Zexous said
different pricing, and not just a few dollars either
who cares about japan in 2025
china is better

Pricing is just early kurogames special restardation
At least now its not the same team that handling EN release anymore

No popular/respected CN gacha games does that currently
Except PGR 
Doesn't really make it any better if the pricing discrepancies are still there
Well, top 10, top100. Whatever u name it
Yea. JP got store price overhaul when sync ended
Somehow EN got none
Jp store also has things listed directly in yen
putting it in top 100 is basically the amount of gacha games we have
not a good comparison
And rc in cn is scaled 1:1 with yuan
worse, my country taxed online payments so its kinda a burden now
PGR is not popular enough because of these issues (if I had to guess)
either that or it's just still their bad marketing
and menu 
6 years and they couldn't make a navigatable UI
I think pgr is just not meant to be the most casual friendly game
How good is teddy's cub ? I can soon SS a cub for free thx to revival plan, should I use it on her ? I hesitate between hers, wanshi's or pianissimo's
Buy from 3rd party site better
Kuro allows it anyway
its still expensive, every online payment is taxed for their idiocy
Yeah, how can they make service shops in mission?
it is absolutely casual friendly, more than other gachas. it just doesn't have the open world aspect which draws in people and blinds them from the "meta" and seeing character strength
I blame bad marketing, have you EVER seen a PGR ad ANYWHERE?
PGR technically has more meta content than casual
Drawing people in is part of what makes a game casual friendly
well pgr is 6years old gacha
all I see are 2020 arknight ads
I'm getting ads from shops and brands not games
and I barely see them anyway, only time they pop-up is in discord player
If it doesn't have broad appeal its not really casual friendly even if the gameplay is, which also isn't necessarily the case
RIP ~~ change country residency then ~~ 
Need either open world like hoyo stuff, or really chill gameplay you can do with minimal attention and effort
Pgr has neither
I really don't get it
people are being stupidified or something
play candy crush if you don't want to pay attention or doomscroll tiktok
I mean
That's kinda what people do nowadays?
~~ but pgr got candy crush built in ~~
I get why it started, since these games were originally supposed to appeal to working adults on public transit and stuff
these people aren't exploring the world, they are just following the objective markers and watching the cutscene while spamming left click in each fight
But its definitely too normalized now
To the point that gacha gamers feel weird when they ARE asked to pay attention
im bound by the need of 4 years working in my counrty before going outside
I do prefer the pgr format of auto looping the tedious stuff and requiring actual gameplay for the important stuff
But so many other gacha games put like 90% of their entire gameplay loop on auto or near auto now
That people just come to expect that now
Worse of all, they are the most paying groups
If those casuls didnt bring much money, company can just ignore them and didnt market to them
Casual whels are still the biggest contributor to revenue
Yeah no I was just joking 
Endless loop
No gacha might be the new meta going forward
Gacha got worldwide popular not really bcs of the gacha
But bcs western game were too shiet
And other AAA devs too
When small niche gacha can have better gameplay, ppl moved to gacha
I dont really think its bc of that
It's because of the mobile market
Western mobile games didnt go hard enough
covid started the gacha hype
Oh interesting. You do have actual western point of view
Me just asian outside east asia 
I dropped every gacha game that wasn't PGR
ZZZ, NIKKE, ToF, Hi3rd, WuWa
I played the first 3 for a bit longer before I did but they got boring because of what you said, although with nikke I more so had an issue with scaling
e33 stole my diploma award
best phone game I ever played was Soul Knight
now im jobless and 30k in debt
Western companies dont put nearly as much effort into mobile market, which makes sense because of difference in how we use our phones
But even in the west mobile gaming becomes more and more prominent
And the gacha game devs were there to capitalize
Yea, smartphone market were really improving fast too
So, if I want to SSS Teddy right now, do I have to summon a copy first?
Western game devs still perform well in the markets they actually put effort into, they just were too slow to get in on the mobile market
They just did like
Candy crush and clash of clans and whatnot
any recommendations on how to get teddy ? like should i pull a copy from r and d ? or use skulls and the 50 vouchers from the shop and the voucher shop in general ?
And left it at that extent of a game
Teddy and all her stuff can be obtained completely free
If you are patient
Pulling is for the impatient whels
i can sss her without touching her reaseach and dev tab right ?
alright will be patient then

In 5 months if not pulling at all, yes
Cuz voucher 20 shard monthly limit
270
Fk whel
what would be the recommendation for f2p ?
S+ dirty nasty
Tho now seems most newest CN gacha looking to be PC leaning
I still remember wuwa devs said that mobile user still the majority even with heavy graphic for wuwa
Ofc the recommendation is to be patient and not use bc
Just be patient. Nothing beats 0bc spent for SSS unit full kit
okie , thank you ! will do that and wait.
Don't think they're pc leaning, just that more of those games are adding pc support
Gacha games few years ago by and large didn't have pc port at all
But mobile will always remain the dominant market for these games
How to access Service missions? 
As it is the largest market in gaming overall anyway
I can't read
No as in the graphic fidelity, gameplay, ui
All built with pc user in mind
I cant see wuwa, arknights endfield, silver palace, etc were designed to be mainly mobile game
Black Beacon EoSed before they got pc port
They werent at first
People in asia spend as much money as we spend on gaming pcs, on gaming mobiles
Phone graphic is still lower grade
Like the texture pack given for mobile is 2nd grade
Its not about how powerful the phone is
Ofc they are lower grade but these games aren't optimized well for pc either lol
Mobile will always remain the main target for them
Made by who btw?
Former kurodevs 
Now we know why they are "former" lul
I remember people hyping the game up just because of that
Yes after they got the statistics showing such
But initially they werent
Bruh
I haven't played those other games but even just menuing in wuwa makes it very obvious it's mobile forward
Well then Im curious
What makes u believe that Genshin is indeed initially marketed as mainly mobile game?
Genshin is the first pioneer
Help pls
Shop
Or gacha screen bottom middle
MISSION TAB
Menuing+control schemes are all mobile forward, not to mention mobile gaming is the primary market in asia rn
But also
Genshin is not really the pioneer lol
Oh mission, then mission tab
Thanks both
On gacha game entering pc market?
It doesnt?
Oh for entering pc market
Maybe. But like i said, its still mobile forward and you can feel it from the controls and ui
Like, as an example, holding to drag in menus
While scroll wheel gets shafted because it's only discrete scroll with no momentum
Purely mobile forward design
And i see this in every gacha game I've played
My goat
Well, it remain a possibility that they werent experienced as pc game developer
So they use old design from their experience, which is a mobile game
But I still feel they were trying to break free from gacha being mobile game
And makes it legit pc game, with mobile compatibility
Instead of mobile game with pc port
If you really don't want to believe these games are designed mobile forward, to the point that you want to believe these multimillion dollar companies with multiple games and experience developing them, chooses to maintain mobile forward controls just because of lack of experience
Idk man
Hoyo got no PC game experience when developing Genshin tho?
Ofc they want to expand out of "just" being mobile games
But mobile is waaaaaay larger market
Mobile gaming is larger than all other gaming platforms combined
And even more so in asia
They still maintain the same exact designs for hsr and zzz
If youre talking like right now, yea they realize mobile is still far larger
Even the CN devs were saying that as their reason, a dillemma of why they cant go all out developing new PC gacha games
But initially is that the case? Is what I mean
As does every other gacha game
Huh
Initially it was even more the case
Gacha games started as mobile only to begin with
The expansion to pc is what is recent
If you go back to this genre from a few years ago you need an emulator to play on pc
Bro I know, im not that stupid 
But then my point is why they create Genshin?
With aggressive marketing it available console or PC then?
Because of zelda
What zelda have to do with it 💀
I guess western view reality is just that different
When genshin came out
It was when botw was really popular
And in the west
Thats how genshin was marketed
Every single person jumping on genshin hypetrain when it came out was like omg look f2p botw
I played genshin on release too
I don't remember that, the only thing I remember is that people called genshin the zelda ripoff
Hmmm I see, interesting
I guess theres a big difference on perspective
You're saying the same thing as me
Whether its positive or negative, the point is that genshin was linked as a parallel to botw
And the people who would see this parallel and know about it were not mobile gamers
Console gamers (who played botw) or pc gamers (who missed out on botw, like me
)
At that time mobile gaming in the west was purely casual stuff like candy crush anyway, marketing genshin for mobile wouldn't have worked in the west at that time
i wanted to know one more thing
there are 2 missions in service shop which ask to spend 10k r and d tickets and 25k respectively
Sounds like bait
but without them we cannot get all 50 shards + wep+ cub right ?
Whel bait. Dont fell for it
If you do tho, aim for this 
We can. Wait next week
You can
so it resets weekly !? thank god
Theres weekly missions
Which doesnt exist rn, cuz EN kuro oopsies
So they send the token thru mail
Lmao what
yes i saw the mail right now . thank you

kuro be playing mind games
i can only aim for this with my luck i will get big fat brick instead

i will only dream it sir
Good
Dream big they said 
being a f2p means only dreams
Hey it's okay
This genre thrives on fomo
Everyone is looking up and dreaming of what the ppl above them have
Only the 444 333 mfs are free
if i didn't whale for ishmael , the sole reason i started this game , i ain't wheling for nothing
wallet punishes them in their dreams i believe
it is always about punishing
the gray raven
So is the current consensus on Teddy that she's replacing Qu and Ayla stays on for the support memories, or has that changed since beta?
F2P better experience imo ngl
I wont be envious of such whel experience
Teddy resos?
No consensus. Its only day1 bro
When i was broke newbie with S 5* i was dreaming about invests like i have now with SS0/3 R1/R2
Now i dream about the SSS mfs
it's a heiarchy i guess
A week?! Man, being caught up to CN is rough
+atk and ult
Awesomesauce
Any amp as the third, doesn't have to be ayla, and in fact probably shouldn't be ayla
losing real money for shyt you didn't like sounds really really depressing tbh
Reset should get me all the frags i need 😁
Thats generous. A newfound meta can be established even a month after
Were u not here on Liv debut? 
The Natasha memo fraud incident
deep inside we are all gamblers and the house always wins
Well. Its not that he didnt want it
It's that he wheled more than he needed to
I've seen ew do it before also
Kuro making me look at chikos bazongas close-up everytime I restart the stage
peak gambler i guess
These phat s+ whels will swipe before they actually read
And then find out they didnt even need to swipe

in their minds there is always alpha . it is called alpha syndrome
does this channel have gifs perms ?
Yus
Vera has been out for several months in cn where they were only playing broke dv bot vera

yeah so this might be what i am talking about
the whale effect
Also idk how long it was because i wasn't there but i believe it took a while before ppl cooked the balter 1.5/2.5 rot stuff
For a while on balter release they were just playing straight rot like her subdps playstyle
Yea, meta is everchanging need to adapt now
No more straight copying CN cook
I can't fully trust CN now after Vera situation
Yeah faith lost in cn
We are our own gods
Put your faith in the dalaos you can see and feel
What dalaos?
Rydle my goat
idk about cn or veera situation i blindly follow whatever this channel and wind-bell tells me . warzone is brick anyways
Most of dalaos are long gone
The dalaos who are gone were mostly just watching cn stuff anyway
ppc matters the most , say no to wz .(f2p cope)
The ppl who make their own rots are like, empress (status unknown?), kurai (gone), rydle (present), me (present)
I'm NOT malding PPC
who says about malding , just get all skulls -6 and sleep
that's enough malding for me
Nuke cooks so many microadjustments you could probably call him capable of making rots too
But i think he still just watches cn stuff and tries to match it mostly
i have accepted that i am filthy casual hanging on the meta help as my saviour and yt dalaos like windbell
and empress sometimes
Oh yeah, nuke
I used his vids as a reference a couple of times
zazalao ? never heard of that
He is the dalao of zaza



Tbh not lol

Kurai was the best person for the new players
And he's the only one i listed who is most definitely gone
Rip
wait i remember seeing his vid
Azriel is like mid to high invest
probably watanabe i don't remember correctly
goat
I used to do that
When it was my invest
But it's not my invest anymore so i dont now
I only cook for my own account and my own account has bare minimum now
the most fun time for me was when i lacked the units and tried to catch up. now everything feels boring to an extent
i remeber trying wata solo in wz and ppc results were bad but the process was fun . sigless , reso less, memo less, homeless
I can kind of feel that but a lot of that is the mental chains you put on yourself
Like when you know more and especially when you spend more time in a meta oriented space like this
You develop higher standards for yourself
you hit the hammer on the nail here
And sometimes that makes it less fun than when you're a newbie just figuring things out and doing whatever
gacha games like any other games become boring after a period
Oh yes, I definetely will remember running sigless Chrome for a long time
ishmael might be my fav but unc is my goat
unc carried me
Until wata came i had 111 555 fire and that was after using my standard banner check on it too, the very first one
In those days i remember my first hero promotion was by using lamia in fire zone
and i also remember missing luna lol, i got bricked hard for that and not selecting the bow in free wep pack
?

damn
And hero actually meant something back then
I'm sorry

yeah i have heard wz was nerfed to the ground
With lamia weather
I can slacc off, do 1 zone, forget about other 2 and STILL retain











