📨・meta-help

[shut sky]

Umm test.

Okay I'm back

[plain oyster]

Hmm

[shut sky]

🥀

[golden merlin]

nihil 2.332 001
what mem set to run on wata

[carmine roost]

Class and red orv

[golden merlin]

no i meant like
memory set

[verbal forge]

Alph - DaVinci i guess

[golden merlin]

i saw a vid saying 4 alphonse 4 shakes

i got alph dv

[verbal forge]

Both work

[carmine roost]

He saw a vid

[verbal forge]

But DaVinci better i think

[golden merlin]

kk

should i bother ht wat

wata

[young badge]

for fire

[golden merlin]

ok

wait what

wata barely gets fieldtime for fire

[young badge]

yes and his dmg is op during his field

at 3s especially

[golden merlin]

oh really

ok

his mem build stays 4alph4dv?

[young badge]

ye

for nihil and fire

[chilly trail]

[golden merlin]

how about for df

[young badge]

df idk bout df i haven't touch that team yet

[verbal forge]

#1447937004385075392 message

[young badge]

but its prob same too

[verbal forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1368012142980370474.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PheebHeadNod

[golden merlin]

why does vera run guin

for df

[carmine roost]

Why not

[golden merlin]

uh

oh i guess there isn't rly much else she can use for df

[carmine roost]

You can just:

[golden merlin]

guys i have an idea
run bathlon on vera

[crystal rune]

[golden merlin]

[carmine roost]

[delicate vector]

Oke thank you

What cons can replace solacelune,pyroath,shukra?I don't have any of them

[graceful summit]

1. Shukra is almost dead. Teddy ice amp is coming up and you'll most likely not need qu anymore
2. Pyroath is rather old now, if you need a team for fire just run solo vera. It is still a viable strat
3. You can use Rosetta rigor to cope as a physical tank, but if you don't have her aswell then Just skip physical content, your physical team will not do any good without a tank

[delicate vector]

If solo vera,What else do I need to wear besides epitaph?

[graceful summit]

You can run your most invested amp, and run support memory set on them

[delicate vector]

Aaah i understand now,thank you very much

[peak halo]

Why do wanna?
Run hervor instead

[golden nacelle]

[peak halo]

Wtf w72

[graceful summit]

So whel

[delicate vector]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/16639803/characters
Anyone can help me build Team composition?I just made a comeback a month ago, and haven't played for 2 years.

[golden merlin]

i wasn not being serious lol

[crystal rune]

sv nao v cha

na ha?

[golden nacelle]

chingcheng

[golden nacelle]

juan

[crystal rune]

adu

na cao hon sea ko

[golden nacelle]

chain beo vc

[crystal rune]

[peak halo]

Huh lot of s0
But
Get ish sig i recommend
Dark bianca lilith ish
Light limp nana ish/feral
Phys piano vero/alisa rosetta
Fire vera wata any amp
Ice wanshi ayla teddy(next patch)

[crystal rune]

ouu choi acc ha ly

nay t xem acc tari tren huax

[golden nacelle]

khác nhau à

same person

[crystal rune]

ua

[golden nacelle]

tap het 2 acc ma

[crystal rune]

[golden nacelle]

1 cai w70 cai w72

[crystal rune]

[golden nacelle]

beo vl

[crystal rune]

uwtf na w54 1980w

sea co 1960w

[golden nacelle]

sea moi nhich len w54 19m4

qua cui

[crystal rune]

[golden nacelle]

anh nay w58

[crystal rune]

pak

[golden nacelle]

[crystal rune]

tap nhanh thoi de cuoi tuan len 21m

[golden nacelle]

nuke finally gets the pc hax

[graceful summit]

Frog_WorryStonks

[peak halo]

Nuke became pc player

[noble zinc]

is 4050 16gb i5 enough for smooth gameplay

[crystal rune]

pgr?

yea

[graceful summit]

kurukuru_spin

[noble zinc]

whats size

after full install

[golden nacelle]

67gb

[noble zinc]

Wut abt video recordings

Per hr

Size

[rugged pebble]

Think it's a good idea to use wata darkflow in ppc?

[peak halo]

[graceful summit]

[chilly trail]

[peak halo]

For what?
Projection?
No cuz is df shred not dark

[orchid owl]

what's vera df 1.5 rot? is it just ult 1 and swap out, or play core passive and swap out?

[rugged pebble]

Yea

This ppc week sucks lmao

[orchid owl]

if you don't have a better tank then yeah but only with oblivion

unfortunately if you put on oblivion you are not getting amp buff

or tank

one of the 2

[rugged pebble]

I cld try with wanshi + lilick luna zaza

[orchid owl]

if you have dark tank or ishmael, use them

[rugged pebble]

ISH on lightning

[orchid owl]

otherwise try tank + amp setup without oblivion

[orchid owl]

overseer?

[orchid owl]

and all stages?

[rugged pebble]

Yea

[rugged pebble]

Shi good point

[orchid owl]

don't need ish for overseer, maybe hell but only SS3

[rugged pebble]

Nah my feral is on 5* lmao

[orchid owl]

I'd like to ask laos
what vera 1.5 rot in df looks like? ult1 and swap off or ult 1 core and swap off?

[peak halo]

Hell and chaos needs for me

[digital moss]

can anyone send me the current meta team list pls

[rugged pebble]

🐈

[peak halo]

Atleast which i had

[orchid owl]

this is the latest we had ye

[peak halo]

Also now how mycledra quited to be a helper will update it

[orchid owl]

he wasn't the only one working on it

[peak halo]

[orchid owl]

and iirc he said he will kiwi after current patch

[peak halo]

Also i donno
I personally do ult1 and swap
But donno trully laos which say

[true pivot]

why isnt the phy team using alisa if the team invest isnt a 3s veronica lo

[peak halo]

Alisa also only viable if 3s

[orchid owl]

omg yomm hiii!!!!

[true pivot]

elo

[orchid owl]

I hope your hand gets better soon

[true pivot]

the free 3s is better than the paid ss3

[true pivot]

been playing less, so im a bit better

kinda ruining it by working tho, so like

[orchid owl]

oof

[true pivot]

[orchid owl]

how much were you playing before?

[true pivot]

uhh

4 days to mald a single zone, if compressed its around like 50 hours?

[orchid owl]

how many hours a day?

[true pivot]

12+-

[orchid owl]

jfc

[true pivot]

yea, wasnt good

[orchid owl]

[true pivot]

was unlucky in some waves as well

would not recommend

[peak halo]

Yes
But in this case rip f2ps
Wanshi lilith wata or luna gett them all vouchers

[true pivot]

using tickets is even more of a rip for f2ps

[orchid owl]

yeah I am not planning on picking up the race with china or anyone on the leaderboard, I'll just do as much as I wish and strive to be better

[true pivot]

unless we get a new phy tank soon ss3 selena cant be better than 3s vergil for most people

[true pivot]

yea just dont crowd that do better mindset to uhh, an extreme degree

it will drive you insane

please play in moderation

[peak halo]

But nihil made me insane

[ashen parcel]

What memories do i give support ishmael?

Does support ishmael exist?

[orchid owl]

yes she does

[peak halo]

4Dv 4guin/2guin 2eins if amp
Or4soth 4dv if tank

[orchid owl]

she has 4 da vinci 4 sothoth
4 da vinci 4 guinevere

[ashen parcel]

ty

[ashen parcel]

Sig or Class skill resonance?

well if i had a tank already and she went amp

[peak halo]

Class

[ashen parcel]

Ok

[orchid owl]

I feel content

except for df lmao

idk why but df damage is kinda low

I tried long ult short ult on liv which then made me rot wata in for downtime which ultimately did net me more time and a bit higher score but nothing crazy so I'll have to see how a dalao does it

[true pivot]

wao 30m, so whel

[vital nova]

how to rot hell overseer with ss0 r1 Liv and feral, ss3 r2 nanami

[vital nova]

I did not know u are a whel

[orchid owl]

[carmine roost]

Surprised that you're shocked

One thing this server has taught me is that everyone is a whel

Until proven otherwise that is

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

[sonic tide]

[zenith thorn]

im f3p

[delicate vector]

Ah oke thank you very much

[peak halo]

Im a🐬

[carmine roost]

[crystal rune]

im f2p

[limber yoke]

same

[peak halo]

Ppl with sponsor

[round lake]

I'm F2P but got 10000 RC from Elon Musk free money

[carmine roost]

Lucky you

The mods always took the money from mr.beast first before me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[wise axle]

🐳

[radiant panther]

Nah, its SS Ish, Watank, Luna Tunes, maybe its QTE management

[orchid owl]

Don't lie to them, you're the same as me

https://tenor.com/view/tail-silly-jumpscare-ikaika-orca-gif-14566413062100948085

[peak halo]

[orchid owl]

I think 8 million is possible
I got 10 mil with 333 112 111

[chilly trail]

thats my score with 2.332.3

[orchid owl]

I didn't say I was good

Or malding

I play at my own convenience

[radiant panther]

Ah fck that, my hand still sore from grinding Nihil, I can't even play properly on ppc since its hurts when stressing my hands

[radiant panther]

also im in Hero

[orchid owl]

So am I

[radiant panther]

so score is expected low

[peak halo]

I get 12m 1tap
With 2 wrong luna rot

[radiant panther]

Nah fck it, Im not playin, I still have to type

[orchid owl]

What invest? Hero too?

[peak halo]

Leg
333 333

[orchid owl]

333 ofc

Not sparing any reso

Wata or vera?

[frosty kraken]

Is my liv good?

[peak halo]

Vera

[carmine roost]

I still need to actually try wata

[orchid owl]

Natasha

Crazy

[carmine roost]

Only done 222 and SSS Lilith for void

[orchid owl]

Supposed to be 4 heisen my boy

[radiant panther]

Heisen Cottie dawg

[peak halo]

4 haisen instead natasha

[orchid owl]

Wata is good for me
Fills downtime

I don't know how to do 4 rot ish

[orchid owl]

It's like 2-3s

So vera is too much

[frosty kraken]

Just asking bro why are you laughing at?

[carmine roost]

I dun think you'd ever actually need to 4 rot ish if u have like ss3/SSS ish

[crystal rune]

you dont

[carmine roost]

4 rot ish kinda dead now anyway even for ss0

[peak halo]

Ish only 3 rot

[radiant panther]

optimal rot to use honestly

[carmine roost]

4rot ish for SS0 was the go to before we cook much

[orchid owl]

Because every time somebody asks "is this correct?" on liv it's always the memories that are incorrect. I have to commend people atp that they joined the discord but didn't ask before building, or read faq or pins

[peak halo]

Also i will try wata
4alp 4 dv or 4 shake better?

[crystal rune]

dv

[vital nova]

bump

[crystal rune]

no

[carmine roost]

I no ppc guy

[vital nova]

pakyu

[carmine roost]

Wantap, 1.8m, IB, wantap, sleep till monday

[peak halo]

Do ish
And watch windbell

[vital nova]

wut why ish

[carmine roost]

Just join windbell server and spam bomb PPC channel

They active 25/8

[vital nova]

but I don't wanna join a server just for this

[carmine roost]

Okay

Take my advice then

Feral strat > Liv > long rot > ult > boss ded

If boss no ded, repeat step 3

[verbal forge]

Dont spam me

[vital nova]

took 3 ults and only got ~580k in total

[carmine roost]

Well there you go

[peak halo]

[carmine roost]

https://tenor.com/view/jobisdone-my-job-is-done-jobisdone-done-here-gif-6439944769104528281

[radiant panther]

580k is the baseline, good job

[peak halo]

[vital nova]

I don't got enough score for ib ppc

[orchid owl]

@frosty kraken well? Will you change the memories?

[peak halo]

600k nowadays cuz ib

[vital nova]

wait I can just ping windlao here

[crystal rune]

yk you can just look on his channel right

[vital nova]

fair

[frosty kraken]

What's the res?

Signature move or core passive??

[orchid owl]

core passive

for SS3 and below

@carmine roost look at this sht

remember when I said ppc had no rewards for progress

[frosty kraken]

Wydm by SS3? triple S??

Ohh i get it

[orchid owl]

SS3 is like a stepping stone towards SSS

3S = SSS

SS3 is a stopping point, only takes 1 copy to get there and also gives you a big upgrade for characters usually

well for some at least

[frosty kraken]

What if I 3S my liv? Should I change my res?

[orchid owl]

yes

but you won't

74 black cards and a little less than 2 weeks left in this patch

liv is the first character to leave "permanently" until further reruns
this applies to her weapon and cub too

so you can't get her through any other means besides "waiting"

[frosty kraken]

But how many pulls do I get her to 3S

My liv is SS4

[orchid owl]

3 if you already SS'd her

if ss4 then 2 more

I assume you already got her shards from skulls?

[frosty kraken]

I only brought 8

[graceful summit]

[orchid owl]

phantom pain cage shop?

[frosty kraken]

Yeah

[orchid owl]

so you only bought 8 shards and she is ss4?

just making sure I'm understanding you correctly

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

Bruh moment

[radiant panther]

In the DF mem set reso, its still top atk; Bot Core passive right?

[orchid owl]

depends on invest
if below sss yes

[orchid owl]

I see

well then you need to pull her 1 more time, and get all 30 of her shards from ppc shop

[frosty kraken]

Mb my liv is SS5

[frosty kraken]

Copy

Thankies bro

[carmine roost]

Bruh

I hab hedeck

[true pivot]

gws

[carmine roost]

[winter wind]

so is there a reason wata isn't on 4bath instead of liv on df?

because he has dark shred up 100% of time if it's on wata

[keen meteor]

Anyone here with 332 DF?

[radiant panther]

fck man, I choked vera, I could reach 5.8m or even 6m if not for the last 3rot choke vera

[true pivot]

1. bathlon 4pc buffs edb
2. edb > edmg > atk
3. the dmg buffs bathlon gives is wasted on watanabe cause he does no damage at all
4. both of liv's 4pc memory set is terrible (natasha buffs sig, pointcare buffs when you activate sig) and buffs way less than bathlon's complete 4pc (her off-field also gets buffed).

[cobalt prawn]

Wait so what is Wata on

[true pivot]

alphon dv

[cobalt prawn]

I think I may have had him on bath as well🤣

8 bath on my team

[true pivot]

so who is running dv in ur df team then

[cobalt prawn]

Wata

Was on bathdv

[true pivot]

?????

[cobalt prawn]

I think I just pasted the build I used for dark

Lemme see my presets

[true pivot]

you do know what his mem set does, right?

[cobalt prawn]

Ok sry im stupid I had him on alph/dv

I’m tripping

I think I go thru this every week

[true pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1412100393282044035.gif?size=160

[cobalt prawn]

Cuz now that we have all these presets I don’t need to think abt mems every time🤣🤣

[true pivot]

currently all tanks need their sig mem

[cobalt prawn]

I’m pretty sure for dark we run bath dv if using wata tho

Guess thats the only exception

[graceful summit]

Cuz wata in dark is offele

[true pivot]

huh?

bianca is running bath

[cobalt prawn]

333

[true pivot]

wata runs dv alphon

333...

but alphon...

[cobalt prawn]

I need to test ig

If no dv is better

[graceful summit]

But why alph tho

Cuz the field just gonna shred fire

[graceful summit]

Yes it shred fire
But it's dark team

[young badge]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[trim apex]

Read leap skill. His fire shred becomes df shred when he initiates df mode via hold ult, which retroactively applies to sig mem effects

[graceful summit]

But df not dark...

We're talking abt wata dark tank

[true pivot]

tank shred

[trim apex]

Oh then yeah for dark wata zaza you’d go bath dv

[true pivot]

what, so you dont need tank shred?

[young badge]

tank shred is still applied

even without his sig

[trim apex]

Tank class skill procs off of every attack, including QTE dmg

[young badge]

his sig only applies scorching invasion which reduces fire res shred

[trim apex]

No need sig mem

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945590488822595584.png?quality=lossless&name=rorrythink&size=48

[crystal rune]

I’m putting your leash back on

[true pivot]

this is... confusing

[graceful summit]

[viscid cave]

isn't no wata dark tank? cause his leap only cover darkflow. y can convert dark become darkflow but can't convert darkflow be a dark tank.

[young badge]

becuz thats how the game works

[graceful summit]

Yeah but there's many cases of dark teams with sss wata

Cuz of his qte uptime and cooldown reduction

[carmine reef]

Cause of how shet daren is*

[graceful summit]

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842385491332300861.gif?quality=lossless&name=RavenMagik&size=48

i think i kinda get it

[young badge]

and kuso game gatekeeping sht

[cobalt prawn]

This new dark tank better be the most op thing we’ve ever seen

[viscid cave]

i guess whale use ismael instead daren for some reaso. but i can be wrong, im not whale

[true pivot]

ngl tho, i dont remember wata's field even doing anything remotely useful acfter leap

[cobalt prawn]

Better than S+ r3 daren at S0 no sig

[carmine reef]

Nope

[true pivot]

mf keeps missing

[carmine reef]

Whale uses daren still

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1447976766659498157/GIF-251209_094158.gif

[carmine reef]

Needs like sss r2 minimum to be in team at this point

[crystal rune]

Sss3

[normal sierra]

imagine not having that at this point

[viscid cave]

for whale

[carmine reef]

Sss3 is just for her personal dmg

Doesnt really matter at this point

[true pivot]

i dont even get the full volley for her leap at s+

[carmine reef]

They're not even gonna use the full 4x3 from sss3 anyway

Too long

[true pivot]

she doesnt have enough orbs for a full volley for one of the swaps iirc

i dont wanna get 3s bonka

please new dark tank, convert her into a qte bot

[verbal forge]

Dam k whell

[true pivot]

right now, all i hope for the new dark tank is:
full shred uptime
flexible rotations
doesnt need cottie
can run bathdv or something

[crystal rune]

Field on sss+ and has one rot Ônly that takes 15s to do

[limber yoke]

too good to be true

[true pivot]

it has to be better than nanami

[crystal rune]

That’s what you think

[true pivot]

[simple dew]

crotch jumpscare

[crystal rune]

Deathstare part 2

[true pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1448011150133428244.png?size=160

[round lake]

nope, Vero tier Dark tank for balance

Dark too gud already

[pine slate]

At ss0

[keen meteor]

ss0 light

[crystal rune]

Smh Ônly 2m pathetic

[keen meteor]

my firs 2m man

I'm trying to learn

so toxic smh

[crystal rune]

Learn better

[keen meteor]

behave better

[crystal rune]

[keen meteor]

[crystal rune]

Pakyu

I’m logging in

[keen meteor]

good so you can void urself then

thank u

[crystal rune]

Nope

[keen meteor]

I'm out

[crystal rune]

Just to sabotage you

Pak

[keen meteor]

U're the best fr

[crystal rune]

My slave is gone

[icy otter]

@crystal rune r u claiming my login pulls

[crystal rune]

no

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[verbal forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1373015453710028882.gif?size=160

[young badge]

[distant wren]

now u slave alone

[crystal rune]

Where you at gng

1 viet is not enough

[true pivot]

NanamiSus

[stray siren]

Golden Brick locked, requirement to unlock: CW SSS+

[hazy sandal]

[violet pecan]

Guys what’s the best reso for Limpidity sig weapon?

[young badge]

cottie

[violet pecan]

Thanks

[graceful summit]

Huh?

[chilly trail]

[graceful summit]

jinshi_dumb

[true pivot]

i think its better to put cottie in her main slots no?

so you waste less ht on bath and heisen

[crystal rune]

[graceful summit]

PGR_LamiaThink

[crystal rune]

Howd you escape your cage

[young badge]

got catfish

[keen meteor]

hacker how did u get 10m

[late salmon]

guys, can I ask how does "reward" calculate its point? This is in darkflow hero warzone.

[chilly trail]

Can get 10.5 if mald more

[distant wren]

Based on the total dmg you dealt, as for the exact ratio idk

[late salmon]

it is really weird. Take this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIy_pLZnBe4 for example. The "reward" I got is higher than him, but he got 3 more waves than me. But the point from the "reward" is way higher, why is that?

[keen meteor]

Ok hacker
I only have 9.1

Wahsed fr

[chilly trail]

U betrayed low invest now u washed at it

[late salmon]

is it because of different server? It looked like he is playing in korean version this is so confusing

[peak halo]

also score/wave depends by how u legend, hero or leader elite
legend the most tankiest, so higer score/wave

[hazy sandal]

All serbruhs has different HP tables

Per week

[peak halo]

and also enemy type too

[hazy sandal]

It is not appropriate to compare 1:1 with other serbruhs unless u are engaging in that serbruh

[late salmon]

no I'm strictly looking for similar video. I'm at hero and darkflow warzone

[late salmon]

well but still, the best score I've scored is 5mil and it is with vergil SSS, alisa SSS and hanying SS3. basically my best team and that's still miles ahead of people who scored 8mil super easily with all SS team

[hazy sandal]

Well then that is a definitely problem

[blazing bridge]

Is there a guide to maximize my stamina/currency to build?

[late salmon]

1 to 2 mil diff? I could get some tips here and there but double and being consistent for over 3 years? Idk what is going on anymore

[peak halo]

and that to diff week differ enemy and enemy type
like that video
we play mob zone intead boss

[blazing bridge]

Or just grayraven.com then all bs goes?

[peak halo]

sorry for ping

[late salmon]

yeh even in my bracket, no one got up to 8m unless super whale I met in legend. Yes I got a cycle of going to legend and then went back to hero the next week

[hazy sandal]

U surely didn’t met a superwhel

[distant wren]

different enemy placements, squishy mobs give less score cause they have less hp

also something about fluctuation level

[hazy sandal]

It is way over 18m for them in one single zone, not 8m

[distant wren]

but idk you'd need some dataminers to answer those questions in depth

[late salmon]

exactly I'm going insane over this problem. I thought it was me at first, but no matter what I did, not even close to 8m for over 3 years of playing

[peak halo]

8m is f2p/ lowspender i guess

a skill issue whel is like 10m+

[hazy sandal]

Proper superwhel should go over 20m depends on wz state in single area

Else wallet waste

[late salmon]

yeh ik but idk if it is me anymore. Is it I'm missing all full resonance weapon?

[small sorrel]

Would maxed out Stigmata comparable to Pianissimo SS with cub +sig?

[peak halo]

u 3s invest?

[late salmon]

like, say here is my team I'm playing in this picture. Darkflow hero warzone

[peak halo]

[late salmon]

nope, only those in vouchers that I got to SSS, well, not luna currently. I'm saving for teddy next patch

[peak halo]

but can be atleast on vera r2 amp is huge

but vera on lowrank needs r3

cuz dlt

[wind hemlock]

[peak halo]

sorry whell mindset

[wind hemlock]

I mean, if you do nukelao's parry cancel tech you don't need DLT to do 3 Vera rots

[late salmon]

tbh idk how to do that, I should learn those

[wind hemlock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJtcBtxqg3g

Damn, that video is quite oldge already

[peak halo]

bruh

[late salmon]

thx man. Gotta ask tho, would doing the rotation mindlessly would reach near that score?

[wind hemlock]

Wym mindlessly?

[late salmon]

if not then, what could I do to increase the point rather than improving the gear I got and doing the rotations right. I do heard managing waves would increase it by 1~2mil, but idk exactly how to

[wind hemlock]

Managing waves is like, delaying a bit or rushing rotation to take care of that annoying sliver of hp bar left of a wave so you can do a lot of damage next wave

It's easier with DLT indeed, but QTE timings also help

[late salmon]

like say, just do the rotation of the whole team and repeat it again and again? For darkflow I'm doing
start wata 3p ult1, fill his utl to 6 ASAP, ult2
swap to vera do 1 rotation ult (2 3p, ult1 3p holdBA ult2)
swap to liv do 1 full 1 quick ult (or 2 full cus idk)
repeat but 2 vera rotation
I just don't care what is going on, just do it

[wind hemlock]

Rotation is a bit different for low rank tbh

[late salmon]

what does that mean btw?

[noble zinc]

Just ask updated one can give

[wind hemlock]

Opener:
Start with Liv > swap to Wata
Wata hold ult > 3x ping red orb (if it parries, if it doesn't then do 1x 3 ping then ping the rest so ult2 is ready) > ult 2 > swap to Vera
Vera dodge > 3 ping blue dodge > 3 ping blue > hold ult > 3 ping red > dodge > attack (parry cancel, generates blue orbs) > 3 ping red > QTE > hold atk + dodge cancel whenever red sword bar drops > ult2 > repeat again without QTE > swap to Liv
Liv hold dodge > ult1 > QTE > 2x 3 ping blue > 4x ping white > hold atk > ult2 > QTE > 3x ping > hold dodge > ult3 > 2x 3 ping blue > hold dodge > QTE > ult4 > swap to Vera
Loop:
Vera rotation above with QTE > repeat > repeat again without QTE (3 rotations) > swap to Liv
Liv rotation above > swap to Vera

[wind hemlock]

Imo it doesn't need to be updated, I did that tech for df and it worked well

[late salmon]

thx man I'll try it out

[compact fern]

what ib weather we got dis week?

[keen meteor]

Dankflow

[compact fern]

and?

[keen meteor]

Void too i think

[compact fern]

fak

[keen meteor]

Idk the third

Im a ppc slacker

Wz better fr

[compact fern]

pretty sure void still bricked without min 3s team invest

[visual topaz]

Physic

With edr bug

[compact fern]

[keen meteor]

Why ur luna not 3s

[compact fern]

holy trash ib week

[compact fern]

even 3s luna im sure bricked without 3s ish as well

void just sucks for ib

tifa boss right this week?

[final fog]

Red huaxu

[compact fern]

lmao fak

yeah skip week

[final fog]

Just whel

Problem solved

[keen meteor]

Oh idk

[compact fern]

i totally forgot what i did for knight and chaos for projection boss last time

[eager osprey]

between ishmael & nanaknight whos SSS is higher prio?

[barren plank]

Nanaknight 100%, though it depends on what means you want to actually get the SSS through

[young badge]

ppc

[barren plank]

Waow u can SSS thru PPC now?

[eager osprey]

just wondering bc those are the only 2 i don't have SSS of yet and i wanted to get one of theirs from anni banner, idk if there was a significant increase or change in kit one has than the other

[barren plank]

Are u a high spender?

[young badge]

yes

the only sss they dont have is nana and ish

[eager osprey]

i have sss for everyone else so i'd say so

[barren plank]

Nanaknight's then

But just be sure you dont compromise future units by pulling now

[eager osprey]

i can get 1 of them rn and planning on pulling the other later probably

[barren plank]

Nanaknight has more value

[amber meteor]

whats the bestteam for lucia pyro
and how shoud I Hypertune her Memorys

and hypertune weapon?

[young badge]

yes

[wanton hatch]

[wanton hatch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?usp=drivesdk

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sp9nXp7kbVppE2N_vl5x5A65yRwp7193CHS61SWbSe8/edit?usp=drivesdk

find

Paper you're gonna fill my storage

[fresh cairn]

Is there any huge gap between Pyroath SS3 and SSS or it’s just meh

Somehow, i managed to get one more copy for her in 6 pulls, so about thinking to get her to SSS 😅 or SS3 Hanying is just better

[jovial matrix]

fate is king

[fresh cairn]

Ngl, all pull i put in fate is from the free tickets game gave us, lmao, i was lucky

[visual topaz]

more energy gain before her eclipse ult, off field dmg doubled, core mark acqusition easier

and base dmg of her ults with core mark also doubled

[fresh cairn]

So her rotation gonna be shorter, and the damage is increasing in most of her kits

Am i right ?

[visual topaz]

not necessarily shorter

the energy gain is when you do hold basic before the eclipse ult

and building dmg for eclipse is slow compared to slash ult

but overall it's damage increase with the SSS rankup

[fresh cairn]

Okay, then i probably have to pass this one, and wait till Pyroath got leap anyway

Cause i thought her SSS gonna change how she work

[visual topaz]

nothing changes for her rotations past SS3

[fresh cairn]

Thank you, she will stay at SS7 for now, lol

[normal sierra]

got it now
rota is fairly easy to pull off, time isn't even that tight, and more than enuff dmg
100% hp needed some trial and error thou

[compact fern]

100% hp is bugged i randomly get 98% although im at full hp sometimes

my 16s projection runs all getting 98% hp lmao

[normal sierra]

nahh, boss hits liv after 2nd ult1, no matter what I do, so I had to delay ish qte a bit longer, right when boss hits

[compact fern]

oh btw

liv fast+long +ish qte kills at 2.322 invest

18s run

nana is so bricked in terms of speed even liv long is faster

[normal sierra]

ye, nana slow hitter

[compact fern]

slow and weak

[normal sierra]

can't even use deer on her at start, cuz she takes several millenias to even get a 3 ping there lul

[compact fern]

ye lolll

thats main reason i had to use fast+long

since double fast needs deer

but nana ender is just slower

liv fast+long still faster

[simple dew]

whats sigless wata set

4 alp 2 eins?

[compact fern]

henry can liv do fast+long on 15s timer?

skip core before long do 3p3pd3p

i think it possible

[normal sierra]

no idea, I never checked time on long rot cuz I don't use it in ppc

[compact fern]

my dps is too tight i got it after lot of tries i dont wanna reset xdd

but i think 17s doable

if u waste zero frames

[normal sierra]

but if you skipping core (hold dodge you mean, right?) anyway, might as well use sp delay on fast rota

[simple dew]

,

[compact fern]

me dont know how to sp delay

[normal sierra]

with sp delay, you won't need that extra dodge, saves almost 1s

[compact fern]

how u do it

[compact fern]

ye core too long

3p3pd3p is faster

[normal sierra]

if you need the fire shred from his qte, alph + einst is gut
if you don't need that, can use dv + einst instead
but also depends on your full team

[fluid gulch]

🤨

[normal sierra]

right before your ult2 in fast rota, 3 ping blue and then ult2 right away

[compact fern]

[normal sierra]

so let all the orbs be consumed with the normal hold dodge, then use an extra 3 ping and ult2

[simple dew]

22.32 151

[compact fern]

thats faster than dodge 3p later?

liv 3p super fast prolly one of the fastest xd

[normal sierra]

yes, cuz you won't need to dodge at all on next rota
you will only need 2x 3 ping and can ult1 already

[compact fern]

u can prolly 3p3pd3p in 2 frames

[compact fern]

maybe but im too scared to reset the dmg is super tight

[normal sierra]

I mean in what team you use and with who
fire/dripflop/dark/etc

[fresh wave]

what memories do i want for geiravor and limp liv?

[simple dew]

fire

[compact fern]

u free can test it on any trial ?
wanna see how long the entire sequence takes
like if u can do it in 10s
since im seeing if 15s(17s score) possible

[fluid gulch]

Vera 4 shakespeer 4 cottie, Liv 4 cottie 4 heisen

[normal sierra]

ye, then you need the fire shred, so alp + einst it is

[fluid gulch]

cottie goes bottom

[compact fern]

16s(18s) kill is pretty chill

actually im thinking of getting ss liv cub

shud help

[fresh wave]

tyty

[normal sierra]

the answer you got may be correct if you meant vera for fire and liv for lightning (vera's fire set highly dependent on her rank + sig weap + her team too btw)
but if you mean darkflow team, then they use different mem sets

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1447430073732042761/3746db5d29684de13862cdab3d49bc09.gif

[normal sierra]

doesn't seem to have enuff energy for 2nd rota
how do you even do fast > long rota without core?
long + fast works, but the other way around not enuff orbs nor energy for it

[fresh wave]

yes im making a darkflow team

[normal sierra]

check the builds here then
#1447937004385075392 message

[spiral merlin]

is this liffu

[simple dew]

does 4 natasha 4 cottie work for liv in df

[normal sierra]

yes

[simple dew]

or is bathlon mandatory

[spiral merlin]

need to press blue 3p before hold dodge and need sp delay

gives 4 orbs with dlt after doing 2nd ult1 which is just enough

should mean impossible without dlt

also maybe rank difference idk i dont know her ranks well enough

[fresh wave]

tyty

is bathlon only available through warzone?

[spiral merlin]

you dont wanna run a team without bathlon and you also dont really wanna solely buff livs ult in darkflow since her core has better scaling

[normal sierra]

ohh, that makes sense, I didn't use 3p before hold dodge
closed the game already, but will try it tomorrow just out of curiosity

[normal sierra]

no, should be in the simulation shop too
unless it's bugged like patton and some others are now
but you can get it with mem shards in the exchange shop too

[fresh wave]

yea got some thank you

[carmine roost]

@noble zinc how do you do void with wata

I found 12s Luna rot so that we can swap back to ish as soon as available

But how about ish

[keen meteor]

He has hacks

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

Hmmm
Lower than 3s lilith

Huh

That feels better when Luna only do 2

Yeah idk how 3 rot Luna works

[keen meteor]

What invest?

[topaz galleon]

I got some BC hoarded would it be better to SSS hanying or pianissimo?

[keen meteor]

Do u have other imp chars SSS already?

[carmine roost]

Shake wata is better???

[carmine roost]

2.03.02.0 123

Ish amp

[barren plank]

I also scored better w shakes but I feel like I am not optimizing my DV runs

[carmine roost]

Damn

Even D V wata is catching up now

[carmine roost]

Maybe I was just being slow with shake

I was able to get new kick with dv

[carmine roost]

I would say they're both just as good

Most of breakpoints either with shake or DV wata is actually quite similar

The difference is 100k at most with this invest of mine

Thanks to wata leap, most of DV downtime isn't a dmg loss because shake shred is applied throughout the rest of 8s of DV downtime after 2s of buff

[worthy skiff]

hows luna sss+

[carmine roost]

Stonk

[worthy skiff]

worth?

cause i got like alot of bp tickets lol

[carmine roost]

Well yeah

[worthy skiff]

okok great

[carmine roost]

But def not top prio

[worthy skiff]

plus the 5 rc luna thingy

im at like sss2 so

[carmine roost]

You still have Lilith, wanshi and teddy to get s+ rank before luna

[worthy skiff]

shouldnt be too bad

wut

[carmine roost]

18x10
180 shards for SSS+

[worthy skiff]

they need sss+

[carmine roost]

I mean if you were asking SSS+, I'm going to tell you which voucher character that benefits the most from SSS+ upgrade

[worthy skiff]

wait new teddy right not the a rank

[normal sierra]

they need sss+ just as much as luna

[worthy skiff]

icic so in this order?

[carmine roost]

Those 3 def would give you better rewards from SSS+ rank compared to Luna

Is what I'm saying

[carmine roost]

Idk yet

Probably something like teddy Lilith wanshi Luna

Idk

[worthy skiff]

icic

ill get those first then

[normal sierra]

damn, bro got like 1m vouchers to burn or something

[worthy skiff]

lmao nah

128k

[normal sierra]

but das not enuff even for just 1 sss+

[barren plank]

Strong but just save your vouchers for SSS Teddy next patch

[worthy skiff]

oh right teddy is soon

hmm ok

[worthy skiff]

yuh but atleast now ik what to spend it on😭

wait is the teddy free

like the first one

oh wait it in pins

[normal sierra]

you get 50 shards for free (enuff to unlock), her weap and her cub, all for free

[worthy skiff]

yoo nice

[spiral merlin]

not even free copy like lilith

its cooked

[normal sierra]

you pulling anyway, copy or not

[spiral merlin]

i have 82 in fate rn lol

pulling teddy wont hurt much more

[normal sierra]

[spiral merlin]

yea liv hates me

[verbal forge]

do i change anything for ib

[simple dew]

get sss vera

[spiral merlin]

yeah you press the delete team button because you shouldnt play ib

[verbal forge]

She will come at 85 trust
-# she came for me

[normal sierra]

das a nice change indeed

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350

surely not 100

[verbal forge]

fund me

[normal sierra]

but why vera on hervor? can't your fat midliv one shot the boss anyway?

[verbal forge]

Its wz build so that why i was asking

[normal sierra]

slap 4 guine on her instead or something

[spiral merlin]

yea hervor not good with sss wata i hear

no point in staying on vera that long for her to need it

[barren plank]

Wata doesn’t need Alphonse here cause it’s a boss, go 2Gloria 2Eins

Gei can go 4Guin 4Cottie

[crystal rune]

Fred guin cottie

[verbal forge]

Thank you

[crystal rune]

It’s not a rework

It’s just something ppl recently found

[verbal forge]

So 2 fred 2 guin 4 cott?

[crystal rune]

4 fred

Although

I’m not sure if it would really help in sss liv Strat

Might be better just to run 4guin 2sam 2 cottie

[verbal forge]

Ill see what i can do

[normal sierra]

try all of em, burn em ht mats like candy

[verbal forge]

Im not nuke

[normal sierra]

I finally reached the point when I have to use my guild/dorm coins to buy ht mats

[verbal forge]

You also have dorm i reached to that point

[normal sierra]

at least me stacked on them, 100k guild + ~6m dorm, should last for a while 1 patch

[crystal rune]

So phat

[verbal forge]

🧱

[graceful summit]

4worrywhale

[verbal forge]

Would be nice to harmony 5 star

[crystal rune]

Was that ss0 gera

[verbal forge]

31 with ss
30 with ss3

Im doing sum wrong 🧱

[crystal rune]

wtf brick

Sss 1 long rot can 18s

Can try 1 long 1 short or 2 long

[verbal forge]

Is there a reference vid?

[crystal rune]

I don’t have for your invest

Too bricked

[verbal forge]

Let me cope and lvl the memos

[crystal rune]

Qte reset does wonders jeez

[crystal rune]

Ok hotguy

[thorn meadow]

got SSS bianca recently, shouldnt someone be on bathlon?

[crystal rune]

Bianca should be on dlt

Ish should be on sothoh dv

Ish reso should be axial domain and dlt or re

And no

No one is on bath in this team

Unless you want to try bathlon cottie Lilith

[cobalt prawn]

That’s why I like wata fr

def not cuz my ish is ss0

[thorn meadow]

yeah, I was considering putting it on lilith

[crystal rune]

I like Wata too but dmg falls off too much in the later waves

[carmine roost]

Not with ish

SSS dark can only use bath with daren

Ish need Sothoth, so 4 south 4 dv is needed

No space for bath

[carmine roost]

Lilith prefer 2 Cott 2 guin/eins

Can't put away Cott

[crystal rune]

4bath 2cot 2guin is also a Strat

[carmine roost]

No dmg lilith

[crystal rune]

Wdym no damage

10 edb

[carmine roost]

How do Lilith even apply bath

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[crystal rune]

Qte

Same way ss0 Bianca does

[limber yoke]

ss0 no rights

[carmine roost]

And so does Daren skipper

[graceful summit]

f2p

[thorn meadow]

idk why ishmael needs soth, cant we just extend lilith's rotation?

[limber yoke]

she needs to renew her field

[carmine roost]

Lmaooo

[limber yoke]

otherwise no shred field

[carmine roost]

Your ish off field passive won't shred any ele without sothoth

Just tank

[thorn meadow]

i see

[carmine roost]

At that point might as well use 4dv 4 bath nana

still worse

[thorn meadow]

i could just bring the granny daren

[carmine roost]

[thorn meadow]

i got her SSS but no resonances

[carmine roost]

Well

Bath 15% shred > DD 8% shred

Sooooo

[crystal rune]

Daren needs r2

[carmine roost]

I mean even without reso, SSS Daren also has special passive too

[crystal rune]

[carmine roost]

Oh wait

[carmine roost]

Is it SSS or SSS3

[graceful summit]

SolonBuff1

[thorn meadow]

SSS0

[carmine roost]

Lmao

Brick

No dlt can't ult

No ult no shred still

This is what happens when one skip Daren fr fr

[thorn meadow]

its not so much a skip, its more like when I started the game, people were already saying daren was gonna die any moment

I started on wata patch

[graceful summit]

proceed to stay relevant for 3 years

[thorn meadow]

my darens already came from selectors

[carmine roost]

Just ball up already and play dark with ish without bath

daren is gonna get replace soon anyway

[abstract violet]

for f2p bianca what should i do, get wep, ss0/ss3 or get karenina for support

[graceful summit]

Get her weapon
Also you can just ss0 her with ppc skulls

And you don't need ss3 if f2p

And Karenina is too old now for you to invest

[abstract violet]

cool ty

[graceful summit]

Use Ishmael in place of her

[abstract violet]

ok ig ill get ish

[carmine roost]

Sht

My ish ult got bricked my Roseblade at 3 last seconds

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[rotund fox]

[noble zinc]

Time to download wwm pak pgr

[wanton hatch]

[graceful summit]

UN_PoincoWOW

[barren plank]

Me when I realize just now that WWM is on mobile

[noble zinc]

I can't even play wtf in pc

Thing will take over a year to get familiar

[graceful summit]

Wait is it already released?

[noble zinc]

thought still not released

[graceful summit]

Or still not

[noble zinc]

Only ching chong vr is

[wanton hatch]

mobile doesn't have legend difficulty

it's locked behind pc

[barren plank]

[barren plank]

Id imagine its laggy asf tho

[wanton hatch]

yh it's on u can play till the customize appearance part I think then wait for dec12 open beta

[wanton hatch]

surprisingly not

[graceful summit]

Well ofc

Not kiwi this time ig

[crystal rune]

You stay

[wanton hatch]

[noble zinc]

pak storage

Me back to practice sp delay

[noble zinc]

Pc thing got hax

There more window feels

[analog mirage]

[graceful summit]

Karen Smash Ur Face with Ball

[weak moat]

after sss wanshi lilick luna and wata, who do I get sss3 with vouchers? or save?

[graceful summit]

Save

Then sss teddy

Next patch

[weak moat]

oh we can get her with vouchers?

[graceful summit]

Yeah

[weak moat]

nice

[graceful summit]

She's a free unit

[weak moat]

thanks

standard s rank selector I could get ss3 hanying, bianca, ish and probably later on vero I guess. Saving again? rest of meta is already ss3 or higher

[graceful summit]

The blue banner right?

Maybe wait until next patch to see if ss3 bianca is good on raydiance

Else probably save

[weak moat]

yeah blue banner

[graceful summit]

Even tho I'm not sure if there'll be new units that is not free and not limited that's gonna be in blue banner

[weak moat]

I save and wait then

[dawn cloak]

@crystal rune can SSS Liv 2x long rot fit inside 10 sec amp buff?
And is it from 2nd swap in only?

[crystal rune]

Can’t

Max speed 11s

[dawn cloak]

RIP

1sec shafted

[wanton hatch]

wow so whel sss

[verbal forge]

maybe i can do better on nihil

[dawn cloak]

Rank 11

[verbal forge]

Thats temporary

[wanton hatch]

Bombslao how did you do dorkflow

[noble zinc]

He bombing

[wanton hatch]

[crystal rune]

[pine slate]

Wtf why only 512

[noble zinc]

Budget capped

[pine slate]

[noble zinc]

later need to upgrade

[verbal forge]

Long ult and short ult on liv

[crystal rune]

wtf that’s 29?

[noble zinc]

Won't be playing many games so should be fine

[wanton hatch]

oh ur 3s right?

[crystal rune]

But 1 long is 18

[wanton hatch]

oh right, truly Bombswhel

[verbal forge]

Doesn't vera 3s do big pp dmg too

[crystal rune]

Small damage

Like

2 bars at best

[verbal forge]

[crystal rune]

Maybe 3

S+ is 4 bars

[verbal forge]

Yeah i need to redo later

[crystal rune]

Main diff is speed

[crystal rune]

Cho mat nitro

[golden nacelle]

[verbal forge]

You ss or ss3

[wanton hatch]

ss3

[verbal forge]

Whell

What score you getting?