📨・meta-help

[rocky wedge]

pgr is single player tbh xd its like hub game

[carmine reef]

4fred isn't a new thing though

it's always been around for ppc niche stuff

[rocky wedge]

u play on ur own and can fight vs others that do the same, this is my favorite model i think

[compact fern]

its impossible to get 6s liv ult1 if u delay even like 2 frames after lingya 3 ping

[rocky wedge]

relying on others is ahhhhhh

[buoyant hornet]

I was waiting for someone to test her 3rot potential because I was too lazy to

I knew I could count on you hubby

[carmine reef]

although for most of gen2 you only saw 2 fred because gen2 was cottie hell

although for most of gen2 you only saw 2 fred because gen2 was cottie hell

[buoyant hornet]

It's not new but there's a new discovery, check out setsu's new video about it

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lmao

Also double message send lmfao

[dawn cloak]

[compact fern]

frederick mald in ppc

[carmine reef]

ok so you're in right

[dawn cloak]

Really?

[cobalt prawn]

Is it just pure skills or u need to grind/buy gear and stuff like that?

[carmine reef]

my internet is dying

[dawn cloak]

What mald, its wantap

[normal sierra]

but why are you aiming for 6s ult1?

[buoyant hornet]

@carmine reeftldr 4fred effect can be procced even if the holder isn't on field, it basically activates if the holder is present on the field after the fielded character activates their own matrix aka via qte

[rocky wedge]

pure skill

[carmine reef]

well it was a gen1 thing and then didn't exist much in gen2 because of every gen2 dps needing 4sig+2cot so you could only run 2fred at most

[cobalt prawn]

Hell yeah.

[compact fern]

cuz otherwise i cant get nana finisher at 16s clock
trying to get 18s seems possible

[rocky wedge]

unless u are like the b1ch ass mf that 3rd partied me on last 3 remaining

[buoyant hornet]

So yeah there's basically a new way to get an extra matrix lightning from a qte bot

[cobalt prawn]

I’m not home so I can’t get it on pc:(

[dawn cloak]

No rights cant be greedy
Just take +1 sec
Or go SSSSS+

[cobalt prawn]

But ill try it once mobile releases

Controls prob gonna be ass tho

[rocky wedge]

there is 0 p2w

[carmine reef]

oh i see

[rocky wedge]

some slight p2progress but ye i will stop before im banned or something xd

[carmine reef]

that is indeed new to me

[rocky wedge]

but if u like PGR, its a good game to compliment it

[cobalt prawn]

Yay

[dawn cloak]

No I mean the 4Fred matrix, 15% edr
Well I only play since red Luna so no clue on old stuff xD

[rocky wedge]

probably like the only one right now that does actually

[cobalt prawn]

3 days🙏🏼🙏🏼

Mobile release

[rocky wedge]

since wuwa's combat is a bit stuck to compare

[carmine reef]

yeah i know about 4fred, i'm saying it was used in gen1
but the qte application feyer just told me is new to me

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah I saw some of the boss fights they looked so cool

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I also experimented with it last week and got a clean 10s hell trailblazer with ss0 liv instead of timer bug 10s

[dawn cloak]

Cuz 4Fred effect shouldnt be too new
But ppl just were sleeping on it
Until it resurface on SSS+ Vergil PPC

[rocky wedge]

ye its very PGR like ngl

[buoyant hornet]

And also got good results with it on ephialtes chaos

[rocky wedge]

wouldnt be surprised if some inspiration came from the games boss fights, cause PGRs has always been up there for sure

[buoyant hornet]

It's new to everyone I'm pretty sure

[rocky wedge]

good ol blanc video xD with the twins

[cobalt prawn]

Hahaha yeah

[buoyant hornet]

It used to only be used by the actual dps or by ish to abuse ss3 attacker qte nukes/off field dmg

But not for the qte application

[carmine reef]

also

[carmine reef]

i didn't test if this is actually better overall than 2 rot

i made that for the guy that only had sss nanami

[buoyant hornet]

I don't expect it to be better but there's only one way to find out

[carmine reef]

since he can't do a fast rot to fit in between, like wata can

[compact fern]

fck man nana is so slow it piss me off
need new light amp so nana can be qte bot already

[dawn cloak]

Also does this work with matrix lightning reso too?
Maybe those useless R2 on tank finally have use

[buoyant hornet]

I'll experiment with shifting wata's swap to be before luna instead of before ish and let luna do the full 12s thing

[normal sierra]

dat sounds maldy
can't nana be faster then somehow?

[buoyant hornet]

Nope only fred

[compact fern]

nah man nana is brickwall i can only cut time on liv

but 16s finisher is doable
or 17 frame1
ive been close

[dawn cloak]

Tbf if the 3 rot still 13 sec, adding Nana would still be same time no?
Nana no cot is 4sec fastest
Luna 1x hold ult + tap ult is 9 sec when I test on my laggy phone

[visual topaz]

[dawn cloak]

If its same, I guess 3x ult still better, cuz SSS Nana fast rot can be bricked by holding yellow beyond half core bar

[carmine reef]

Only first swap is 13s

[buoyant hornet]

only the first swap is supposed to be 13s

[dawn cloak]

Oh already tested properly? I see

[final fog]

Okay it was slightly better but nowhere near 8 mil

What ishmael rot should i use?

I forgot to mention that i dont have cubs

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I inquired about matrix lightning but it's not the same unfortunately

[buoyant hornet]

Well no cubs is already a phat score drop lol

[compact fern]

ml is only for holder

[final fog]

How phat?

[buoyant hornet]

Especiall post leap luna considering her cub buffs both her 2 main dmg sources

[carmine reef]

i doubt you are getting 8m without any cubs

[dawn cloak]

Ishmale cub is big
You lose +40% atk with no S cub

[carmine reef]

for ish rot ask feyer

i already forgor the ss0 tech

[buoyant hornet]

@final foghttps://youtu.be/TOupNbnxh3c?si=ai4lhdc0aEWKUD2r

[final fog]

https://youtu.be/X1I3mQ3NQVA

This rot works?

Ah ok

[buoyant hornet]

The first segment of the video is an ish rot tutorial

[dawn cloak]

Expect roughly 10% score drop
Or just around 500k as rough estimate

[buoyant hornet]

This is outdated, was before luna leap

I should upload a new one lmao

[final fog]

I'm not even reaching 5 mil

[buoyant hornet]

What invest?

[young badge]

how much score drop without luna cub?

[final fog]

223 111 111
Luna ishmael nana

[buoyant hornet]

I had -500k from missing ish cub alone way back when, I imagine it'd be even more with both ish and luna missing

[golden merlin]

I got 3s wata ss3 luna ss ish
All r0 but have sig
No cubs
What should i be scoring

[dawn cloak]

Also its Nana not Wata, Feral bricked

Lost 10% atk + 10% ele buff too

[buoyant hornet]

I failed to even think of that

[carmine reef]

Still should be higher than 5m

[dawn cloak]

His other options were SSS Lilith
So yeah

[young badge]

r0 ish 🧱

[carmine reef]

Ur ish is cooked without dlt

[golden merlin]

Just got her :/
i do have 2 usbs tho, what should i do

[carmine reef]

Put it on ish

[buoyant hornet]

r0 ish will be unable to even do her basic ideal rotations

[dawn cloak]

Did you get score increase tho?

[young badge]

reso

[carmine reef]

Ish resos are really high value

[final fog]

Slightly

[carmine reef]

Since she can be used on other teams

[dawn cloak]

Get R1 first
R2 or R3 if whel. You whel right?

[buoyant hornet]

Might still be better lowkey

[barren plank]

I want that Ish skin just for the finisher 😭 alas poor

[golden merlin]

…what do i reso
Dlt and… ?

[buoyant hornet]

Needs testing

[carmine reef]

Past dlt depends

[heavy marlin]

I got 8m with 112 reso

[carmine reef]

But first prio is dlt for nihil

[buoyant hornet]

I considered throwing a couple of pulls into ish's skin because it's cool as hell but I decided to stay rational

[dawn cloak]

Well, whats the rot for Lilith tho? Since 15sec swap cooldown

[golden merlin]

Ok
Ill just do r2 because i have no concept of saving for later
No whel anymore, only whel last patch because 2 spending events

[dawn cloak]

No u might be bricked by the ult anim
It lags slightly behind the actual ult ending

[buoyant hornet]

Idk just any copium to proc lingya's buff and swap off

[carmine reef]

With lilith can just do luna 3 rot and lilith just lingya stonks it up

[golden merlin]

So is ish coating just bad?

[buoyant hornet]

We keep saying the same thing maybe we should get married

[golden merlin]

So i should get like 5m?

[dawn cloak]

Luna 3 full ult with dlt?
Tap, hold, tap ult?

[barren plank]

Can I be the best man

[carmine reef]

Doesn't need dlt

I posted my video earlier

[golden merlin]

So
What do i reso on ish

[carmine reef]

https://youtu.be/uadqJOjdXWA

[heavy marlin]

Yes should be higher if r2 ish

[dawn cloak]

Oh so still 12 sec

[golden merlin]

Ok

[carmine reef]

he's all r0 no cubs

[dawn cloak]

What downtime filler then

[buoyant hornet]

jobless invest 😭

[carmine reef]

if you put r1 ish then it's still 2.332 001

and no cubs

that probably scores like 6-7m

[golden merlin]

Wh

I guess ill be 5m as ive yet to learn how to play luna or ish yet

[buoyant hornet]

Btw did you sss you luna or just ss3

[carmine reef]

lilith half rot

mostly just for lingya

[barren plank]

Luna Ish Lilith team?

DLT > DD

[carmine reef]

ss3

[golden merlin]

Wata

[dawn cloak]

Dayum, Lilith no barcelo dmg is so ass tho

[carmine reef]

correct

but what else are you gonna do there

[carmine reef]

luna runs out of steam, can't do 4 rot

[golden merlin]

I guess i could do lilith but someone told me wata better

[barren plank]

DLT > GS > SAR

[buoyant hornet]

Is that hold basic or hold dodge on her 2nd rot?

[carmine reef]

yeah sss wata should be better

I have the inputs written in desc

Bro my internet constantly cutting out on my pc is gonna make me end it all

[golden merlin]

Where?

[carmine reef]

My video

Just up there

[golden merlin]

This one?

[buoyant hornet]

I'll test it on my invest too

[dawn cloak]

Why SAR not first?
8% atk for all with 100% uptime worse than 10% atk with 8 sec uptime?

[carmine reef]

Yes

[golden merlin]

Kk thanks

[carmine reef]

SAR should take prio

[barren plank]

Oh

[buoyant hornet]

Remember its cooldown keeps ticking during timestop

[barren plank]

This is why I resigned helper role

[carmine reef]

Its not about the cd really

[buoyant hornet]

But yeah SAR is still a bit more consistent

[carmine reef]

It's about the possibility of GS not having triggered yet

[dawn cloak]

Yea but off field
And qte nuke and other stuff too maybe

[carmine reef]

I'd only consider GS over SAR for a ppc scenario where you know damn well you need that 2% atk specifically

[buoyant hornet]

Any buffs can be applied via qte that's why doing double qte on wanshi's qte nuke is usually recommended

[dawn cloak]

We already gen 3 now

[visual topaz]

does SSS limp do fast ult rot in df wz

[buoyant hornet]

no

[carmine reef]

i recommend exactly the opposite

[visual topaz]

full rot?

[dawn cloak]

No. You have timestop on hold BA bro

[barren plank]

Afaik Liv does double full rot

Unless ur out of time or smth

[buoyant hornet]

screws up her darkflow stack generation if she doesn't do 2 long

[carmine reef]

I only do double wanshi qte on second qu rot when he doesn't have nuke anymore

[buoyant hornet]

Skill issue git gud son

[carmine reef]

What

My way is better

[buoyant hornet]

Fite me and prove it

[carmine reef]

Just do full qte sync on qu first rot so that wanshi qte nuke gets full dv buff

I learned it from azriel

[visual topaz]

oki

[barren plank]

Why are you not a helper again

[golden merlin]

Pvp when

[buoyant hornet]

baby I said double qte not triple

[dawn cloak]

Wanshi doesnt have off field

[carmine reef]

Hahahhahahahahahahahaha

[buoyant hornet]

Semantic misunderstanding

[golden merlin]

[buoyant hornet]

Pookie that's not the point but I understand you

[buoyant hornet]

No a fight within the polycule means kissing

We don't fist fight we're classy

[carmine reef]

I interpreted "double qte on wanshi" to mean wanshi qte twice

[buoyant hornet]

We only use missile launchers

[carmine reef]

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah which is fair lmaooo

[buoyant hornet]

I might need to rewatch your wanshi guide lowkey

Idk but something in my head is nagging me that my wanshi usage isn't good enough

[carmine reef]

not that the generation monikers mean anything but if we're going to use them i highkey think we're gen4 now

[buoyant hornet]

Kinda

[dawn cloak]

Gen 3.5

Teddy 45% affix buff now

[buoyant hornet]

I feel like I run into certain breakpoint situations where I should use one of his less common rot pathways

[dawn cloak]

Surely the gen3 dark tank is skipped
We go gen 4 directly

[buoyant hornet]

At the expense of being useless for lightning ig

[barren plank]

Gens are meaningless cause they are a made up community term and no one actually can agree what starts where or when

[cobalt prawn]

Watttt

[buoyant hornet]

Wata already set a new standard for affix-exclusive shred

40% base at s and whatnot

[cobalt prawn]

Ice?

[buoyant hornet]

I expect kamui to be the same

[young badge]

kamui a rank tho

[cobalt prawn]

[dawn cloak]

And 100% full qte bot with leap
He works at base S already
No need to waste skull or vouchers for new player

[buoyant hornet]

I'd argue the bianca-veronica run is gen 0.5 because they're fraudulent

[dawn cloak]

Veronica is gen 2.5 bcs shes so scam lol

[barren plank]

Lemme put it like this
When does Gen3 start

[dawn cloak]

Dying internet? 💀

[visual topaz]

[buoyant hornet]

We were hoping her raydiance buff mode would buff lightning the way veronica buffs fire

[carmine reef]

Yes

Or rather

[buoyant hornet]

So that she can be used to make liv swap better

[carmine reef]

I think it is something about my pc that is dying

[buoyant hornet]

Internet beating ur ass

[cobalt prawn]

Ohhhh

[carmine reef]

Either my wifi adapter or the usb port it connects to

[buoyant hornet]

Punch the router

[young badge]

first gen 3 is wata right

[carmine reef]

The network is fine i think

We usually consider teddy or luna to be first gen3 because of affix

But wata is an outlier bc of sss swap cd

[young badge]

so gen3 means affix

[carmine reef]

Thats how most people have defined it

But wata is a good example of why its not very useful

[buoyant hornet]

Wata was a funny middle point but yes

[carmine reef]

As a classification

[buoyant hornet]

He eventually did manage to fall squarely into the common definition of gen3

[dawn cloak]

The debuff number yes. But no affix on debut so he is considered gen 2.5

Well community made terms so ofc

[young badge]

i thought the sss defines the gen3 for amp/tank and ss3 qte nuke for attacker

[carmine reef]

I wouldn't say that

[buoyant hornet]

Liv can be put in 2 completely different tax brackets depending on whether she's ss0 or ss3 it's so funny

[dawn cloak]

Well shes limited. so special treatment

[barren plank]

And this is what I mean by gen is useless, we cant really agree what starts where cause it is not an official Kuro term

[carmine reef]

I mean

[buoyant hornet]

Being bad at ss0 while being limited is certainly....a choice

Thanks kuro

[carmine reef]

Let's not pretend like kuro themselves maintain consistency in their own terms either

[dawn cloak]

Yass, FOMO choice

[buoyant hornet]

Thank goodness it's not a kuro term or else we'd have a 10 page thesis attempting to describe it ingame

[buoyant hornet]

But then again it's the same kuro that has literally zero proper explanation for affixes

They're just like "use lilith to make the gauge full and gauge start glowing yay"

And half the playerbase has no idea how anything actually functions

[young badge]

i feel like the tlc on sss rank is gonna be a thing for attacker now

since tank has -3s and amp has qte reset

[carmine reef]

I think the timestop on qte and on rank upgrades are both going to be hallmarks of future characters

I said as much in a message that never sent 10 mins ago

[young badge]

yeah qte too

[dawn cloak]

On limited only it seems
But if its true then good
Or you know, all attacker will be limited

Attacker has been the weakest class even now ngl

[carmine reef]

Personally i feel like all non free units will be phylotree now but who knkws

[buoyant hornet]

Your internet is about as fast as nanami rotations

[dawn cloak]

Bro is a time traveler fr
But from the past instead of the future

[buoyant hornet]

Eos soon if it happens 🙏

[carmine reef]

Nah my internet is like hanying rot

When it works it works but sometimes it just whiffs

And you lose everything

[trim apex]

can you really blame them? The simple (imo) mechanics of the Plasma gauge (i.e. fill it up with certain abilities, and once it’s full active it with certain abilities, then it starts to act as a timer, during which Pyroath will gain a different orb system and deal plasma dmg) is described using at least 3 unique names that they made up in an essay of a description spread across 3+ skills of 2 different characters

[golden merlin]

Wouldn’t that be a good thing
If can pick any phylotree unit during a phylotree banner, then more phylotree banners means easier to catch up on previous ones

[buoyant hornet]

My favorite part of hanying rot is having to mash blue ping after ult1 because of the inexplicable lag between the 2 inputs

[barren plank]

I pray u are wrong but u are most likely right

[buoyant hornet]

I don't understand why they did that 😭

[visual topaz]

[buoyant hornet]

I'm sorry what invest is this

[carmine reef]

Depends

[buoyant hornet]

Don't tell me this is your eu acc

[carmine reef]

There is a sweet spot

[buoyant hornet]

Is df this badly scoring? 😭

on mob

[carmine reef]

Cause the weps and cubs also being limited is really toxic

[young badge]

looks like sea

[visual topaz]

dunno

3.03.02.0 DF

[trim apex]

Depends on how exclusive Kuro decides to release them. They have the choice to make reruns rare, or make it happen often.

[visual topaz]

3 reso on Vera 1 on Wata

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it sounded like I was blaming the players but I was actually talking about kuro not properly explaining it

[visual topaz]

hero df

[carmine reef]

Df is kinda sadge rn bc of mob zone

[buoyant hornet]

Especially not explaining how affixes interact with buffs of their mother element

[visual topaz]

I feel like i could reach 55

[carmine reef]

And it's not bc the team is bad at mobs

It's just the waves are so squishy

[trim apex]

Rhetorical question Kuro descriptions are essays

[carmine reef]

They're not giving any score

[visual topaz]

idk if someone has similar invest to compare

maybe i could save time doing the famous sp delays

[carmine reef]

Like imagine i hit wave 45 and my score is in 7m range

What is this bull

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I tried to spend some brain cells to read their little affix mini essays on the core passive decriptions of character and the only one I found comprehensible is darkflow

😭

[visual topaz]

i was averaging w40+ on other elements

~6M

[dawn cloak]

Nergi 444 is 20m he said
Mobs df

[young badge]

damn w40 on void is 6m?

oh

[visual topaz]

yeah on my SEA alt

[buoyant hornet]

Surely there's no way 232 df would score less than 232 fire right.......?

right?

[golden merlin]

Yea their essays are so bad
But in practice the affixes are pretty simple

[visual topaz]

SS0 ish vs SS3 are world apart

[carmine reef]

Well i have 2.332 both so maybe i test mine

[visual topaz]

NA has randomly got Ish dupe onstandard without calibration

so i have SS3 luna, Ish and SS0 Geiravor

[trim apex]

333 is 16 mil top score I think

[carmine reef]

Oh wait

My pc internet is still dying

[pallid cypress]

what is the build for Nanami in PPC with liv at SS3?

[young badge]

honestly it just might considering how dog ss0 limp is

[buoyant hornet]

I wanna use my liv shards but I'm too lazy

[pallid cypress]

liv is on cottie and heisen

[buoyant hornet]

But df on boss is my 2nd highest scoring team

Surely there's no way mob zone makes it irrelevant

RIGHT?

......

[pallid cypress]

nanaknight is on herschell and Heisen

[young badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388810141503197296/1445771450588856433/Omg.gif

[pallid cypress]

and my amp is on 4 DV and 4 Guins

[young badge]

how much?

[carmine reef]

df on the first week was my highest scoring team on my acc

[pallid cypress]

are those good for PPC?

[noble zinc]

232 df should be around 7.5+
Fire 232 can't do it

[buoyant hornet]

Depends on the run lmao

[barren plank]

I highly doubt they will rerun old Phylo characters with the release of every new one, kinda defeats the feature of them being limited units

[pallid cypress]

im fighting overseer

[buoyant hornet]

Actually I think my fire got about that score but I might be misremembering

[dawn cloak]

Nana 4dv instead of Heisen iirc for ppc

[buoyant hornet]

Still depends on the run

Each invest on each difficulty

Can have vastly different "ideal" runs

[golden merlin]

Hm
I mean they did say liv would return when phylotree comes back
I think…?

[noble zinc]

Hax

[trim apex]

I think 4dv 2eins 2gloria works

[buoyant hornet]

I might be completely wrong I'll check first

[young badge]

damn i thought u qiwi

[noble zinc]

why

[young badge]

cuz i dont see u chat at 4am

[noble zinc]

Sick

[barren plank]

My hero fire onetap (2.132 123) was 800K better than my DF onetap (232 123)

That was my first time playing DF but at the same time…

[young badge]

[noble zinc]

me

[dawn cloak]

Nuke still got no nitro
Nergi got nitro back

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1447848199850168390.webp?size=128&quality=lossless&name=emoji_2

[buoyant hornet]

Keep in mind my df was 232 013 so yeah when I ss3 liv and give her a reso it'll definitely go sky high

[trim apex]

Get better soon Lao

[buoyant hornet]

I got 8.9m which is only 100k lower than my account's peak score (9m burn)

[young badge]

my time

[buoyant hornet]

Get well soon friend <3

[barren plank]

I think they just meant Phylo will get it’s own special rerun system later down the road, IE exclusive anni banner or smth

But who knows

[buoyant hornet]

I really hope you were forgetting to hold ult1 on vera there because if that's true then

Df against mobs will probably be kinda bad but like

Hopefully not THAT bad

[barren plank]

I might have ngl but I dont think so

I could test again

[golden merlin]

My df scored 1.5m higher than my fire

[carmine reef]

Just tested

About 600k lower on fire compared to df

[young badge]

whats ss3 df score this week

[carmine reef]

Sloppy run but i only onetap df too so probably both sloppy

[gilded flint]

7.5 mil +
Almost 7 mil as SS df

[young badge]

2.332.3?

but 232 is 7.5

[gilded flint]

watafuc

[golden merlin]

Tf

[gilded flint]

Are you talking about legend?

[young badge]

-nuke

[gilded flint]

nudelao shatterer of hopes, dreams, and ambitions

[young badge]

but ss3 limp should be making more than 1m diff tho

[gilded flint]

https://tenor.com/view/reina-aharen-aharen-san-wa-hakarenai-falling-falling-down-distraught-gif-25340605

[gilded flint]

Did you wata start 3 stack > vera 1 rot > liv 2 > vera 2 > wata however many stacks?

[noble zinc]

That's just a guess cuz 22.32 can do 6.7+

SSS wata big

Diff should be min 700

[young badge]

so 9.7 then

[cobalt prawn]

I’m so cooked… 2 ppl alr at 35m this week

Got a super active bracket

[noble zinc]

Ss3 don't know one tapped always

[young badge]

me not have ss3 liffu jst asking for ref cuz i wanna ignore df if the diff not too big than fire

[cobalt prawn]

Finally have r2 Vera

[heavy marlin]

I got like 8m one tap with 2.132 112 df

[noble zinc]

Let's try eait I got SS3 df

[cobalt prawn]

How much lightning score with sss nana, ss3 liv, ss ishy 111 reso

[young badge]

10+

wait

cooked reso

eh maybe still can

[visual topaz]

someone gib me hands plz

[pallid cypress]

Vera is my davinci holder

im not using feral

[gilded flint]

No, keep on SP delaying to retain rights

[visual topaz]

i don't sp delay

[gilded flint]

[real jackal]

does phys res affect trueslash dmg?

[gilded flint]

Does SSS+ no need?

[pallid cypress]

my amp is already on davinci

[real jackal]

so then 4p patton good to have on vero or hanying for ppc?

[pallid cypress]

@trim apex

[gilded flint]

hanying runs 4 dv 2 catherine 2 voltaire
Vero runs 2 keats 4 phillips 2 richalou/lantern

Memory setups depend on stages so you have to mix and match sometimes for the situation

[buoyant hornet]

@noble zinc nvm it's just 7m

[gilded flint]

saved my life from 7.5 mil

[carmine reef]

My lazy df onetap 2.332 112 was 7.7m

Do with that information what you will

[carmine roost]

Oh no....

Asia gatekeeping 5m behind w31 shield

[noble zinc]

@young badge wave 36-37 seems it

[carmine roost]

While na got 5.1m behind shield

[noble zinc]

2.332 323 ss pet all

[carmine roost]

[carmine reef]

Nuke invest

[carmine roost]

I do NOT want to mald shield wave bro

[gilded flint]

Asia boss void score so sad

[young badge]

[buoyant hornet]

I love pyro weather

[visual topaz]

i threw 2nd to last super QTE

[verbal forge]

I definitely need to redo my lighting wz

-# 🧱 12m

[young badge]

damn thats bad

[trim apex]

no feral/ish? if that’s the case Nanami can run sig instead of dv

[pallid cypress]

i have feral and ish

but feral is sigless

[trim apex]

Use ish as amp then

[pallid cypress]

already did everything

599k

[trim apex]

You can reset challenge if you want

[visual topaz]

za brick QTE

[trim apex]

Lao what rot did you use?

[visual topaz]

no sp delay

[trim apex]

2 ult into super QTE?

[visual topaz]

Munancho 19m with 433

yeah

im too washed for sp

[trim apex]

inb4 fast ult sp delay

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1447976766659498157/GIF-251209_094158.gif

[carmine roost]

2.02.02.0 100

[visual topaz]

hm

[buoyant hornet]

I swear if darkflow scores worse than fire I'll end it all

[visual topaz]

das mob zone

what would you expect

[true pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1448011150133428244.png?size=160

[buoyant hornet]

Btw with pyro's garbage weather I find that wata does much more damage if you ping 3red and do less blaze orbs lmfaoo

[buoyant hornet]

@noble zinc I saw the future when I typed the message earlier

[carmine reef]

I do that anyway

Bc of lingya

[buoyant hornet]

I use his cub

For some reason I score way better with it than lingya

SSS wata do be having some dps as little as it looks

Really helps vera's strict breakpoints

[carmine roost]

@noble zinc

r0 ish still can do 3 rot for like 13s second or something

222 000 gets 4.5m

[round lake]

Lovell did not pull any punches

Although, it's better this way

[carmine roost]

What the whel

50m

[buoyant hornet]

@carmine reef mob darkflow washed as fk 😭

[crystal rune]

[buoyant hornet]

I can't get it to score even 7.3m meanwhile fire is almost 7.5 wtf lmaoooo

[crystal rune]

I wouldnt know

[daring abyss]

is it fairly safe to use cw sig for weapon resonance now that the char has been powercrept into oblivion?

[carmine roost]

Yes

[buoyant hornet]

yeah she has zero place in meta now

[round lake]

It's been safe ever since Nanami patch

[daring abyss]

I'm a coward, I still have my rosetta sig

starting to get tighter on resonances tho now especially after the sync

[carmine roost]

[deft apex]

Im a coward too, still have my plume sig

I might need it to use plume sometimes u never know

What if she becomes meta again yknow

[spiral merlin]

This but unironically for potential bad gb weeks

gb so monotonous now

Don’t wanna make it even worse

[distant wren]

you guys mald gb?

[wanton hatch]

what score for 332.1 nihil hero

[limber yoke]

maybe 10m

[distant wren]

3s wata 2.1 ish?

gumball got 12m on hero eu i believe

[wanton hatch]

[wanton hatch]

[golden nacelle]

[young badge]

pak this bich ass mob

[graceful summit]

AngryPheeb

[young badge]

[graceful summit]

PGR_LuciaIceMu

Frog_WorryStinks

[young badge]

[crystal rune]

Whys your emotes so big

[graceful summit]

Cuz I can resize them

[deft apex]

Liv nuke?

[graceful summit]

kurukuru_spin

[carmine roost]

Who has 2.323 with 3s amp nihil invest

@noble zinc do you know any

[limber yoke]

me 3s amp nihil

[carmine roost]

How about Luna

3s?

[limber yoke]

3s for min rights

[carmine roost]

Damn

[noble zinc]

none

[carmine roost]

Bruh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[noble zinc]

Maybe got

I need to search

Don't remember

[carmine roost]

No need anymore

[noble zinc]

Many acc got

[carmine roost]

I was just asking

[noble zinc]

You tried df?

[carmine roost]

No

I dun have ht mats for bath Liv in the first place

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[sonic tide]

I can say mine cuz my ish is amp

Bricked tank thou

[carmine roost]

Pak whel

[sonic tide]

Yeah pak whel me f2p and casual

[carmine roost]

[wanton hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-oh-really-lies-why-you-always-lying-stop-lying-gif-7432913009127585308

[limber yoke]

bro

breakpoints are cancer

[wanton hatch]

[sonic tide]

Well yes it is cancer

If i have sss pet some of Ishmael break point def changes more score

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[sonic tide]

Unless u use vera 3

[wanton hatch]

3s cub

[sonic tide]

Imagine

[wanton hatch]

swipe it zucchini

[sonic tide]

Nu me f2p

[wanton hatch]

[rugged raven]

Wait so what’s the rotation for void zone now?
Does the leap make Luna the better main dps?
And is which ult do I do?
The hold one or the tap one?

[wanton hatch]

hold 1st then tap

https://youtu.be/TOupNbnxh3c?si=Z_U0uZBkHT7vRUxL

[rugged raven]

hmmmm btw once Teddy S come out
is either she or Wanshi gonna be the replacement in void zone?

[wanton hatch]

no clue yet

[crystal rune]

Teddy better than wanshi there

Wanshi no shred field qte

[carmine roost]

Bricked by shield

[carmine roost]

Do you want to do the sweaty ish rot or the normal ish rot

[rugged raven]

also does it matter which hold ult and full ult i do first for Luna?
idk how their mult work or if it have any other effect
i just know the hold ult kinda retain orbs for her

[carmine roost]

It doesn't matter

[wanton hatch]

what's the difference

[carmine roost]

Fill ult first or hold ult first will work just fine

The score difference is minimal

If you want the most optimal setup, you need to check your own run breakpoint to use which ult on which point, very maldy stuff

[noble zinc]

Hold dodge is slower for first

On entry

[rugged raven]

some of these rotaions are too sweaty
i dont think i can do Vera's 3 ult rotation in liike 10s

[carmine roost]

The difference is the sweaty one gives you carpal tunnel but the second one give you joy

Also like 300k score diff

[wanton hatch]

carpal tunnel one is ryrr?

[normal sierra]

how can only 2 button gib carpal?
add in 5 more and we talking

[carmine roost]

It's SS0 ish

It's not about the ryrr only, but the entire rot becuz you HAVE to do it in amp buff (or else dmg brick)

[wanton hatch]

oh can do just okay

[carmine roost]

Also @noble zinc

Diz good for 2.02.03 123 Lilith amp?

Ga loona

Asia hero

[wanton hatch]

Hero

[crystal rune]

[noble zinc]

Don't know not played

Also direct SS3 did

Jump no idea of scoring

[carmine roost]

Damn

SS0 brick once again

[analog mirage]

[young badge]

ss3 fire know wot score?

[crystal rune]

cc

[young badge]

[crystal rune]

It’s somewhere between 4m and 22m

[young badge]

https://tenor.com/view/minato-gif-15543414

[analog mirage]

Ish Bathlon>Sig in WZ is true?

[noble zinc]

2s3 vera?

[analog mirage]

[young badge]

yes

[noble zinc]

It works

Might vary on zone

12mil saw with bath too

Sig too

[analog mirage]

Is it similar to Heisen and Shake?

[noble zinc]

elemntal type any works

[analog mirage]

Mald again

[noble zinc]

Just guess 7.5 feyar did 9+ i guess with 2.332 323 my invest

Similar to df seems

2s3

Liv

[young badge]

feyar wot invest

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

232

R3 vera

Pyro forgot

Ss cub or not forgot

[young badge]

for some reason pyro doing more dmg this zone might just be imagination

[noble zinc]

Me trying wait

[muted owl]

hey how do you effectively off-element trueslash ppc

what team to use?

[nova forum]

Use glac?

[noble zinc]

My 11mil…

[crystal rune]

[carmine roost]

Time to mald 6 red luna

[noble zinc]

Should I ss3 ish

Stomg void

[crystal rune]

wtf whel

[carmine roost]

yes

Give us dat 32.33 content

[noble zinc]

Then they giving her free selector next patch

[carmine roost]

They do???

What selector?

[noble zinc]

We should get one anytime soon

[carmine roost]

Like free s?

[noble zinc]

S rank box

[crystal rune]

[carmine roost]

Generous game question mark

[noble zinc]

🛌 let's wait if another brick like liv then ss3 that

[graceful summit]

Looks like I'm not clear enough

[crystal rune]

[dawn cloak]

Must have beeen the wind

[viscid cave]

need liv rotation and build on PPC.
i have Liv Isma Nana 222 111 101.

can i reach 600k?

[dawn cloak]

Windbell YT. Can

[dawn cloak]

https://youtu.be/Bu2P29ytXdA?si=3tApa7ia2p0w47KU

[shell rampart]

Hi guys, how big of an improvement ss3 vera compared to ss0?

[viscid cave]

noted

[dawn cloak]

Theres one video for ishma too but its R2

You can copy the rot tho

[dawn cloak]

Meh. Shes more of SSS or stay SS

[crystal rune]

Sss3 or stay ss

[dawn cloak]

SS3 Liv instead if you have spare

[crystal rune]

[dawn cloak]

🐳

So much for f2p smh

[crystal rune]

I’m f2=0,309 °C²

F2p

[viscid cave]

SS3 is didn't bring upgrade at Vera sadly

[shell rampart]

So either ss or sss huh, aight thanks

[dawn cloak]

Vera's own dmg stays 99% the same at SS3
Yes 10% more buff, but 10% more shred from tank better

Thus SS3 Nana first

[shell rampart]

Welp my bc ain't enough to sss vera right away so I think i'm gonna hold on to that for now

[viscid cave]

i'm gonna ask at comment if i can copy his rot but R1 ismael

[dawn cloak]

You can. Just try it urself in game
Also if u dont know, ppc now is resettable, and unlimited attempts

[viscid cave]

bruh when? i didn't know

[wanton hatch]

liv update

[viscid cave]

it was there the entire time and i didn't notice ?

well im fell dumb

[wanton hatch]

[dawn cloak]

EN doesnt read as always

[viscid cave]

[viscid cave]

well pgr players can't read

[graceful summit]

gachaplayers

[orchid owl]

You mean f2=3.14

[crystal rune]

[true pivot]

alt + f4 = 3000w

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1447975848639467530/GIF-251209_093743.gif

Unc aura lost

Whar that’s just me switching back in forth between cursor mode

[carmine roost]

Feels so weird to pair 3 rot Luna with 3 rot 10s ish

I should try with 3 tank

[sonic tide]

Yes

[young badge]

whos in ib?

[chilly trail]

Huaxu df phys void

[dawn cloak]

Whaaa hes top 1

Mycle

[wanton hatch]

phys

[radiant panther]

Whats the possible score of 2.332 111 Nihil, got 6.5m HERO. 7m?

[dawn cloak]

But hey hey, theres dark||flow||

[wanton hatch]

[mighty tusk]

oh look, another IB that nergi will spam vergil with

[dim oriole]

4 chang 4 patton for hanying?

[young badge]

for phys yes

[dim oriole]

alrr tyty

my phys team is finally useable (after i get her shards)

[carmine roost]

I got 6.5m with 2.02.03 123 (3s Lilith)

I assume that's SSS ish, maybe 7.5m

[crystal rune]

[normal sierra]

ban the pilots!

[compact fern]

oh unlimited resets today

unlimited mald

oh bruh its wed nvm

[last folio]

Just got Liv Limpidity, assuming she is SS0 with 6* weapon on DLT and Harmony, what build should I run her?

[compact fern]

did u get 15 overseer?

i still couldnt get 18

[normal sierra]

nahh, didn't have time to mald today, so I just speedrun the winged one instead

[compact fern]

overseer only boss i can mald this week
i already know my cap on projection and powered is bricked

[normal sierra]

will prolly try it today, leaving that digimon for last, cuz that made me ragequit on monday

[carmine roost]

4 cottie and 4 Heisen

[compact fern]

but u hab worrigil tho

what mald

i gave up digimon lol its not even worth playing i lack dps

[normal sierra]

me with worgil? there is no universe I would ever have that lul

[compact fern]

mald 19s digimon with ss3 piano then

or 18s forgot

[normal sierra]

sadly donut soiled my account cuz people baited me to do the story, otherwise I wouldn't even have him

[compact fern]

who is donut

[normal sierra]

ye, will try 19s

[normal sierra]

the other dmcring slop

[compact fern]

my digimon so bricked i cant even kill chaos in 15sec flower ult

even knight takes flower ult kill lmao

[simple dew]

go back and pull virgil

[compact fern]

projection im sure my cap is 11/13/16
overseer its 10/14/18 but me too skill issued to get 18

[normal sierra]

btw, if you meant ppc, you can do unlimited resets already
if you clear a stage, you can redo it any time you want later, just reset it and have another go if you want
it doesn't take any extra daily attempts

[whole vector]

Is Liv a good target pull?

[median shell]

Yes

[fervent oxide]

Is SS Limp better than SSS Alpha?

[steady otter]

Easy question
Check leaderboard PPC

[crystal rune]

[fervent oxide]

idk, all of the limp I see are SSS

[noble zinc]

Liv better

[mighty tusk]

yes, not even close

[barren plank]

Lmao yea I just onetapped PP as fast as I could then just ran straight to malding IB

[mighty tusk]

I think even ss liv can outdps s+ alpha in darkflow

[barren plank]

I can always mald PPC later for perfect scores, I dont get that chance w IB if I wanna top leaderboard

[steady otter]

Chat, is SS0 bianca better than SSS Lilick ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205874035645227008/1312841694957277254/ezgif.com-resize_48.gif

[barren plank]

They're like about the same in terms of damage output

[mighty tusk]

I think you've tried this before in ppc?

and said bianca is hot garbage

[steady otter]

Im joking

[barren plank]

I think Lilith pulls ahead slightly

[mighty tusk]

then you remember her clear times vs lilith?

[steady otter]

Lilith better

[mighty tusk]

by how many sec?
5?

[steady otter]

Forgor

Hehe

[barren plank]

Can sm1 help me I wanna try and get 5% this week

[mighty tusk]

that's gonna be rough with the ult ppc line up

[barren plank]

Can I at least score better in DF

[noble zinc]

Why play for rank in whel mode being not whel

[barren plank]

Cause Im poor and need the HT

[steady otter]

Man i had too much strat & score in my brain
Like every invest
I cant remember all of em

[simple dew]

chat is ss wanshi better than sss glory

[barren plank]

And skulls

[merry badger]

Alpha rn is literal hot garbage no question

[barren plank]

And nameplate for fleggs bonus

[median shell]

[barren plank]

I can stream my IB mald cause Im bored

[carmine roost]

What do I use on SSS wata for void team when both ish and luna is only ss0 still

[abstract violet]

who should i get to build as a dps, i only have a good lightninh team rn, i was thinking ishamel or bianca.

[carmine roost]

[barren plank]

DV shakes (or whatever shred set u have)

[crystal rune]

Where alpho

[barren plank]

Just pull for whatever the new unit of a given patch it (assuming they aren't already free)

[crystal rune]

[barren plank]

You dont need it here right

Cause we are in IB

Wait

[crystal rune]

They never said anything about IB

[barren plank]

@carmine roost Ur asking for IB right?

Or void wz

[carmine roost]

Wz

[barren plank]

Oh

DV Alphonse then

[limber yoke]

davinci 2ein 2glria

[barren plank]

Thought u meant IB for some reason lol

[limber yoke]

ish can use elemental sets

[carmine roost]

SS0 ish?

[crystal rune]

[carmine roost]

In wz?

[limber yoke]

oh i thought ib

[crystal rune]

These fkcers

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[viscid cave]

wz nihil is now f for me, cause hero is now full with 3S luna, and i don't have it

is this dark is enough for 3S lilith ?

or can do more?

[dawn cloak]

Solo Liltih? With what tank?

[viscid cave]

3S ephitap and luna.

[dawn cloak]

Can be 615k imo

[wanton hatch]

just wantap

[viscid cave]

no joke? idk how i can do that with R2 lilith and R1 wata, maybe change memo?
wata use 4 apholo 4 batlon, luna 4 dav, 2 gloria 2 eins

[dawn cloak]

Me R1 Lilith btw
But lemme check again

[dawn cloak]

Oh yea, this seems already peaked

I misremember, sorry

[viscid cave]

maybe i'm not too fast for pressing button

[young badge]

why wata apholo

[dawn cloak]

Nah 611k is already peak. Maybe 1 sec fadter can but eh. 1.8 gotten anyway

[abstract violet]

Lol kk

[viscid cave]

idk, cause luna can convert the damage

[dawn cloak]

Qte management issue
Alphonse comfier

[crystal rune]

Fred bath Wata

[barren plank]

There's nothing better to really use cause I assume he doens't have Lnatern

Oh wait

Fred rework

[dawn cloak]

Lilith matrix.....yea

Its not easy

[crystal rune]

Just get lucky

[viscid cave]

fred rework didn't work, is better use eins glo and 4 batlon.
or i can replace apolo?

[dawn cloak]

Alphonse can be replace, but you need to pay more attention to debuff icon

With alphonse its almost 100% uptime
Without it, it stays for 5 sec after qte (or was it 8 sec forgor)

For the unit elemental shred

[barren plank]

8s is with RE

[viscid cave]

so is too risk change alpho, fre is only stay 4 sec as well

[crystal rune]

It’s not risky you can refresh it with qtes just fine

[viscid cave]

oh yeah, with Luna qte. im forgot.

well i get enough resource. maybe gonna test it rn

[true pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1448011150133428244.png?size=160

[carmine roost]

Sweaty balls

[wanton hatch]

balls

[deft apex]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-gif-14568537723416852561

[graceful summit]

This good?

Df 2.322 001

[orchid owl]

Nahh 2.1 should do more I feel

[pine slate]

pwoinvest

[crystal rune]

Broke invest

[dawn cloak]

001 reso bro

[orchid owl]

Oh

[simple dew]

where sss wata

[graceful summit]

broke

[orchid owl]

Homeless invest I see

[simple dew]

[graceful summit]

PoorFreyaSob

[orchid owl]

Where 5

[crystal rune]

What’re you doing here

[pine slate]

[graceful summit]

I take it it's alright

My phone's too laggy to mald df bruh

[noble zinc]

Wave 39 try

[graceful summit]

Alr

I'll try later ig

[noble zinc]

[graceful summit]

Imma do light first

[dawn cloak]

Malding mobs

[noble zinc]

yea

Mob=more lag

Light no lag

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1447975848639467530/GIF-251209_093743.gif

[graceful summit]

Me rn.

Wait why am I even trying so hard

[carmine roost]

[graceful summit]

Slack bracket smh

[wise axle]

When I open my eyes, sp delay is all I can see. When I’m awake, sp delay is all I can think of. Even when I sleep I dream about sp delay. I’m tired of sp delay. I’m sick of sp delay. But I can’t live without sp delay.

[crystal rune]

All I can think about is Wata

Fckass Wata messing up every run

[graceful summit]

AyameBlink

[carmine roost]

5mil more promo

Wait

Do I need 100 merit for legend promo?

[graceful summit]

Yeah

No promo this time

[carmine roost]

Nice

Time to snipe that mf

Idc about promo

I'm gonna piss him

[graceful summit]

kokowheeze

[wise axle]

I’m not even fast enough to swap to him

[crystal rune]

[pine pier]

for luna do u harmonize einsteina or cottie for ss3

[ripe stag]

Hello

[ripe stag]

Cottie

[dawn cloak]

Were you uuuuuh demoted to leader once?

How come its 55 merit?

[ripe stag]

Leader people

[carmine roost]

Idk

Did demotion protection also reduces merit?

I couldn't even remember the last time I'm in leader

[dawn cloak]

I think if youre out of the 2/2
It uses up 100 yea

[crystal rune]

I’m in leader

[dawn cloak]

First time it uses the 2/2 protection
Then if demoted again yea used up 100 iirc

[ripe stag]

He was probably not in the top 3 in hero

[barren plank]

Can you be placed in a wz bracket with someone you have blacklisted

[dawn cloak]

Still cant. Math not mathing

[ripe stag]

Yes

@maiden thicket YO

Please demote me

[maiden thicket]

no

i 1tap and out

game suck

[crystal rune]

Treepy gone

[chilly trail]

LamiaCry

[ripe stag]

Same as me

[barren plank]

I was gonna ask how I got only 1 sec slower than you in IB w SS Selena but ig I have my answer already

[pine pier]

for void team should i use sss wanta or sss lilith

[dawn cloak]

Wata

Faster swap cooldown time, more dps entry

[ripe stag]

And also more shred

And actually have some damage at short time

[delicate vector]

Does anyone have a current meta team composition?

[keen sable]

it is what it is

[graceful summit]

A new one is in the making, but in the mean time use this

[keen sable]

should remove vergil and dante from that list

the note is just dumb

[graceful summit]

Dante's not even there

[keen sable]

makes sense it if itwas on vergil patch

collab units have no place in a meta list

since u cant get them anymore

[golden merlin]

whats ishmael's nihil mem resos

[verbal forge]

15 attack variant
Signature move

[rose yew]

Yes

[crystal rune]

No

[shut sky]

Negas help me

[rose yew]

No

[crystal rune]

I agree with migu

[plain oyster]

[golden merlin]

if im poor can i settle for core passive

like, if it appears first

[crystal rune]

No

[plain oyster]