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[noble zinc]

3riple nana ender seems doable i messed up

[carmine roost]

What reso

My 222 is bricked

[noble zinc]

223 with ish s cub

[carmine roost]

Sht

[carmine roost]

Dlt ga Liv?

[noble zinc]

Yes

[carmine roost]

Damn

11 no rights

[noble zinc]

Ii don't have class skill so there one nerf

[carmine roost]

Does sp delay makes u need dlt?

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

Seems

It's every rot

If only once don't need

[carmine roost]

Liv start is 1 rot?

Or 2 rot

[noble zinc]

One long start

[carmine roost]

Wait wdym long start

I thought you do 2 long rot for Liv besides start with sp delay

[noble zinc]

Things changes

Idk seems to work duo score this seems good boss should 7.2 seems

If work just use

[carmine roost]

Wdym changed, u use short and long now for Liv?

[noble zinc]

oh wait seems double long it was am running out of orbs on nana

[carmine roost]

Look at this hax

[noble zinc]

It was random tap

Am now thinking wut used

[carmine roost]

Lmao

Bruh moment

I'll try 6m then

Probably something wrong halfway

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[noble zinc]

should be easy try so delay

[carmine roost]

No

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[noble zinc]

*sp

[noble zinc]

yes

[carmine roost]

No sp delay, I found rot that's like -1s longer

I'll live with that

i also need to learn void, can't mald light too much

[noble zinc]

But triple nana finisher you can't

[carmine roost]

[noble zinc]

Without sp one quick ult another short slam

With all full normal 3

[carmine roost]

I don't have dlt, can't 3rot nana since the 1st place

[noble zinc]

ah

[carmine roost]

Unless u want me to ditch DD for dlt

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[carmine roost]

I'll try again light later in the week

Void boss would be easier and faster to mald first

Malding light might ended up with inconsistent mald till weekend

No good

[noble zinc]

My void bald only 3s will do 2s brick

Also weird invest mine

[carmine roost]

U already done mald 3s void?

[noble zinc]

Not done

[carmine roost]

Ouh

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Well good luck then

imma shower rq, brb

[noble zinc]

First need to df first

Herv set no one bothering

Need to see

[unborn hound]

im gonna shower with u

https://tenor.com/view/cat-munching-cat-kitty-munching-cat-eating-cat-close-up-gif-575723154021362882

[rose yew]

[carmine roost]

Ofc you did

[carmine roost]

U stink

Not even bleach would cleanse you throughoutly

[compact fern]

i thought liv does double long in wz
welp
whatever

[rose yew]

[noble zinc]

invest?

[compact fern]

enough time to do double long before nana cd

[rose yew]

S3

[compact fern]

ss3

[noble zinc]

Df or light

If light

3riple

Rot better

[compact fern]

light of course
wheres df content dis week

[noble zinc]

With sp delay more

[peak halo]

In df yes

[noble zinc]

It's there

[compact fern]

[peak halo]

I mean 2 long

[carmine roost]

Liv is in the constant state of "random bullsht go" until one is dedicated enough to try everything at every invest

[compact fern]

whatever i onetapped 7m

idc anyway

[peak halo]

Tap more

[compact fern]

nah dead game not worth
ill see on sunday if i need to mald

[carmine roost]

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Truly dead game

[compact fern]

i find double long liv is exact time match with nana cd

and nana 225 ult and 300 ult

just cycle

maybe 1 sec wasted on cd here and there but eh

[peak halo]

Ss0 nana?

[fervent sleet]

how wata ult works ? sometimes i get the 3 stacks on utl when i hold dodge sometimes not

[peak halo]

Need to parry a hit or hit a enemi when hold dodge

[steady otter]

6 AP ishmael

letsgo

[peak halo]

For u too

I donno where better to loss ap ish
Ss3 daren or ss3 feral

[crystal rune]

Fill ish for overseer

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[peak halo]

[noble zinc]

Pak 2 rot sp cancel too fast

[icy otter]

What is wz

[ruby oak]

how high can 2.32.32 210 111 fire score

[noble zinc]

3riple mob

[icy otter]

Kiwi

Goodbye

[noble zinc]

Pk mob

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072740014640865280.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PeepoLeave

[noble zinc]

Bye bye

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1084721330726895616.gif

[wanton hatch]

babye Dowlao

[tender vigil]

Hot take

SS Nanami sucks ass

[noble zinc]

Tsk

[carmine roost]

Shiii

Void mald going to give me arthritis

Fck

[noble zinc]

Where my rec

@buoyant hornet your liv still ss?

【全2雷扒皮信标传奇雷双637w(极限650w)-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/ozJzvFj

Seems trash 200kWith full sp delay?

[keen meteor]

@noble zinc SEA HAS A BETTER DF ZONE THAN CN

[noble zinc]

Idk me in hero :broke:

[keen meteor]

Im not asking im telling u

CN w59 = 19.3
SEA w55 = 19.5

[crystal rune]

catnips

[rotund fox]

Nukelao do you have SS0 Df rotation?

[rustic pollen]

@orchid owl @carmine roost @crystal rune @noble zinc Words Alone Cannot Describe What I'm Feeling Right Now

[verbal forge]

Ill check

But i think yeah

2 more spots left

[carmine roost]

Great job

[wanton hatch]

[verbal forge]

My legend is cooked holy leviathans

[carmine roost]

@noble zinc , my ish rot is kinda inconsistent bruh

What happened

My last dodge didn't gave me energy for ult and just dodge air

Do I have to be faster?

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Is there a timing?

[rustic pollen]

Told Ya It Would Be 2 Soon

[verbal forge]

Same happens to me so i just ping 3 orbs when she leaves the air and then Dodge

But im def doing something wrong

[keen sable]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-toilet-restroom-gif-14343205956687655242

[verbal forge]

Ohh look who's in my bracket

[keen sable]

glad i didnt get the ishmael skin

i dont like the end of the ult where u dont see anything

done for the week again

[verbal forge]

It's your demotion week yeah
-# mine too

[keen sable]

idc about legend

lol

literaly got in with 13m

legend literally just for whales

[crystal rune]

where are you in my bracket

WorryAngry

[round lake]

No need to find me I'm already dead

[keen sable]

im a hero enjoyer

no clue what to use my vouchers on anyway

got 200k

[wise axle]

I think I’m in the same bracket as penguin

IGN pengu right

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

im all by myself Sadge

[round lake]

I could 30m this week but there are 2 sleeping whels so whh bother

[keen sable]

[round lake]

Morri dude probably just one tap Void because he has 333 team and only score 8m

Waiting to snipe me as soon as I try

[lilac hare]

for PPC hell Power using glacio, need timing QTE?

[round lake]

Everything need QTE timing bro

[nova forum]

segs

[lilac hare]

oke...

[radiant panther]

wz weather and elem and exppc boss?

[icy otter]

@crystal rune can u login just for the free pulls

I forgor abt that

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[crystal rune]

No

[muted zenith]

can anyone tell me why i cant get more than 10 mil on lightning?
SSS Liv and Nanami with R3
SS3 Ish R2

@noble zinc

[keen meteor]

Nana uses class now
And do the sp delay rot on liv

Easy 14-15

[muted zenith]

wait she now uses class?

what

also whats sp delay can you explain that to me

[carmine roost]

Something to do with your Qte timing

So many things you can fix with proper Qte

[noble zinc]

https://youtu.be/QWT5qTQtxrw?si=s8AUlzuNWqqEMNg9

[crystal rune]

Ryddle me this Batman

[peak halo]

Pilot life

[keen meteor]

Its basically a tech where you over flow energy
U ping a 3p and immediately before ult and u get the energy AFTER the ult ends on ur next rot

[muted zenith]

so how do i do it in rotation?

[carmine roost]

You do it after every first ult2 and get the energy for the second rotation for a faster second ult1

[muted zenith]

so what do i do exactly?

i just

swap in -> hold dodge -> ult 1 -> 3 ping -> 3 ping -> ult 2

then

[carmine roost]

In the last second of hold ba before using ult2, you tap blue orb and ult at the same exact time

[muted zenith]

3 ping -> dodge -> ult 1 -> 3 ping -> special orb spam x4 -> ult 2?

[carmine roost]

After that you just need 2 3p for ult1, instead of needing to hold dodge

[verbal forge]

Since when nana uses class

[muted zenith]

so whats the rot 2 now?

3 ping -> dodge -> 3 ping -> ult 1?

[carmine roost]

Idk if SSS should do 2 rot or not

[young badge]

since liffu

[carmine roost]

I was Just explaining sp delay

[muted zenith]

btw nana using class

is that in ignition as well?

[young badge]

yes

[muted zenith]

and in ppc too?

[young badge]

yes

[muted zenith]

so i go class permanently

ok

[boreal lynx]

why would she use class in ignition

[verbal forge]

Will remain ult for me

[young badge]

class if have 3s vero

[boreal lynx]

real

[boreal lynx]

nana does more dmg tho

[muted zenith]

ok let me try with class AND with sp delay

[median spade]

is this just anti-vero propaganda

vero in burn is strong

[boreal lynx]

Im expecting 16m from you

[carmine roost]

Just try class first, sp delay is hard

[boreal lynx]

my vero in burn only feels decent maybe im doing smt wrong

[carmine roost]

And you want to do it consistently throughout 2 minutes run

[keen meteor]

First rot is simply a quick ult

Then swap 2 is:
Swap in> hold dod > ult 1 > blue > hold dod > 3p+ult when her ult is ready
3p > 3p > ult 1 > blue dodge > 4x white > hold ba > wait for when the screen flashes white > 3p + ult 2
3p > 3p > ult 1 > blue > swap off

Third swap
Swap in > hold dodge until energy > 3p + ult
3p > 3p > ult 1 > blue dodge > 4x white > hold ba > wait for when the screen flashes white > 3p + ult 2
3p > 3p > ult 1 > blue > hold dod > ult 2 > swap off

Repeat the swap 2 sequence and swap 3 sequence alternatively afterwards

[young badge]

not at 3s

[keen meteor]

Since liv came out

[keen meteor]

No

Burn nana is still ult

[boreal lynx]

i must just be tweakin thn

[keen meteor]

Nana goes class in light at 332.3
And ult in 333 burn

[boreal lynx]

what about 333 light

[keen meteor]

Same thing, basically at equal invest liv does more dmg so nana goes class

[young badge]

watapak nuke lied to me

[boreal lynx]

Oof, now i gotta redo her resos

[keen meteor]

Yeah idk how people didnt make two sets when nana came out

[median spade]

class in burn is still alright

[keen meteor]

I made two sets on her debut

She has always used class set in ion

[median spade]

yeah

[boreal lynx]

i just run her with sig in ion

[keen meteor]

Trolling

[median spade]

had mine since release too

only set i held off on was dv until liffu

[boreal lynx]

wait she uses dv too

[median spade]

in IB

[boreal lynx]

oh

[keen meteor]

I had sig dv too for cope fire

[median spade]

[keen meteor]

Just slapped eins ans resod class on 2eins

And done

[median spade]

[turbid bolt]

Is luna leap worth it?

[median spade]

wdym worth it

[keen meteor]

Da best leaps in a while

Makes her super strong

And easy rot

[median spade]

[turbid bolt]

Ohh, ight, oke I'll go leap her then, thank you!

[peak halo]

I have on her debut like 4 builds

[distant wren]

But less fun

[carmine roost]

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I'm tried, imma just sleep

[muted zenith]

ok why am i failing the sp delay

wtf

i keep failing it

[crystal rune]

youre slow

[sonic tide]

Or dnt hab gud fps

Now since it's mob me getting more laggy

[limber yoke]

lao

[sonic tide]

Wym me casual

[limber yoke]

teach how to get 14m void

me 13.7m

[crystal rune]

teach me how to 20m void

livwow

and 21m df

[sonic tide]

Later im gonna demote anyway, cuz this week can't mald

Busy

[limber yoke]

how did u kill the wave 38 bear

mf is tanky

just after a shield wave

[crystal rune]

have you tried critting

[sonic tide]

Just kill

I think imma upload tomorrow

[sonic tide]

How man me just casual

[limber yoke]

1 single bear worth a 1 mil

or maybe 800k

[sonic tide]

I think max is 14m if wata idk

[limber yoke]

shakes or vinki

[oblique fulcrum]

y'all are there any leaks on rosetta new frame element

[sonic tide]

Vinki i try shakes no dv so far worst cuz I can't double qte loona

[gray trench]

is there any event or something that I can get Luna Oblivion 6* weapon for free?

[sour silo]

Bro sometimes luna wont core

And left herself hanging

How much of a score improvement from ss3 (10.6m) to sss

Ishmael i mean

[sour silo]

21m df in mobs

[limber yoke]

2m

:clueless:

[sour silo]

[crystal rune]

sea zone this week better than cn

and cn already got 20.4

catnips

[sour silo]

Damn

[peak halo]

Eu will be the worst

[zenith thorn]

asking in official server
what an idea

[oblique fulcrum]

call me an idealist

[verbal forge]

18.4m in eu
-# not me

[sonic tide]

Is this full 4?

[crystal rune]

no

20.39

worryRun

[verbal forge]

what are the score for light?

[young badge]

19m

[verbal forge]

I hope someone like that is not in my bracket

[muted zenith]

me whose stuck at 10 mil on lightning

i just dont gt it

sp delay is too much for me to understand

[young badge]

its not

[keen meteor]

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[sour silo]

Wth ss0 luna and ss3 ish can get this score

[ripe stag]

SS3 Ish carrying the team

I got around 8m previous Nihil warzone

[sour silo]

Aight now i know how

After watching

Very fast cn dalaos

[ripe stag]

Ishmael 3rot right?

[sour silo]

Opener is not 3

[ripe stag]

What

Then

[sour silo]

2 ult in 4 sec

2 rot i mean

[ripe stag]

Not this rot?

[sour silo]

For opener nope, but succeeding ye

I can fit 3 rot in 9 sec

But 2 rot in 4 sec, i need practice

Its me vs my deadlines and exams

[radiant panther]

Whats the weather on wz guys and the enemies? I might do Nuke's Hero Light 2 weeks ago

if boss

[sour silo]

Nihil boss, luna weather
Lightning duo, i forgor
Fire/darkflow mobs, pyro weather/darkflow weather

[radiant panther]

Damn

I will do the mald sesh after final exam, I came prepared but need to prio something first

[sour silo]

Same

I could careless about exams since i can pass anyways

Projects more important

[buoyant hornet]

yes

[buoyant hornet]

hmm I wonder why they're doing hold dodge every single rot

[buoyant hornet]

pyro weather = fire screwed

[noble zinc]

Cuz it's more comfy

Sp delay diff isn't that huge

Making it worth wasting so much time

Mobile player+

Cancer

[buoyant hornet]

Don't need sp delay though

[sour silo]

Not screwed, bricked

[buoyant hornet]

just triple ping ult1

[noble zinc]

SS0 can?

[buoyant hornet]

It can

[noble zinc]

Every rot

[buoyant hornet]

Just not on the first swap

[sour silo]

Zamn

[buoyant hornet]

On the first swap you either sp delay for 2 long rots or do 1long 1 short

[noble zinc]

Maybe they needed hold dodge dmg then

[sour silo]

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe but it does waste a lot of time overall, I'll try their way though and see

Who knows maybe it'll work better sometimes

[noble zinc]

Try

[buoyant hornet]

I'll lyk the result

Lmao ss0 liv still really wants a new amp to make her worth

[drifting cipher]

Wait. You’re not supposed to do hold dodge everytime before Ult1?

[buoyant hornet]

No not usually lol

Only the first ult1 after swapping in needs it

For energy and more importantly for matrix

[drifting cipher]

Oh damn

That will probably improve my time then knowing that

Good to know

[radiant panther]

Whats better placement to do sp delay? on keyboard pressing 2 and R or Spamming Left click in tandem with spamming R?

[buoyant hornet]

I realized I completely forgot to upload my lightning run from Liv's first week lol

[buoyant hornet]

Mouse ping ez

[radiant panther]

more manageable than 2 + R lol (still sometimes not getting the ping)

[buoyant hornet]

I imagine it'd be tricky with a trigger button lol

I never comprehended how people can play the orb system with a controller so yeah 💀

[radiant panther]

@noble zinc is your light team: 2.32.32? Does the rot works on the current weather?

[buoyant hornet]

I have no clue

[noble zinc]

Not played my acc yet

Last 2 zone did work

[buoyant hornet]

What rot are y'all talking about

[noble zinc]

3 rot liv

Ss3

[radiant panther]

Aight Ill try later after exam is done. No sp delay right? all 2.5?

[noble zinc]

No sp delay
Short-long-short

[dawn cloak]

Check your inventory, or your in game mail

[radiant panther]

Aight Aight

[noble zinc]

Qte's manage

Or loss

[noble zinc]

For first 2rots of liv

[buoyant hornet]

wtf how

[noble zinc]

orb way more we get

Ss3 rights

[radiant panther]

I got My Nana to SS3 time to test it

[buoyant hornet]

Is it all done within 15s or does it take much longer?

[noble zinc]

it's near perfect swap to nana am not doin sp delay so taking +1sec

With sp delay first short rot just

[buoyant hornet]

oh wow

[noble zinc]

It's fine

[buoyant hornet]

did you record it

I heard sss liv also does 3rot

[noble zinc]

https://youtu.be/auUxYWMsenk?si=wV7OibZyBzkadhpN

[noble zinc]

I copied ymgs s+ rot with a bit adjust yes

It's near same

But sp delay can't

[shy jackal]

waow

nukelao

[buoyant hornet]

Is there a video on 3rot liv? does it need sp delay?

[noble zinc]

Low invest not yet

it's the same thing

Just 3p+uly

[barren plank]

Im not sure if it's worth it to 3rot on SS liv ngl

[noble zinc]

For first rot then double 3p-ult procedding to doing long

[noble zinc]

Ss3 liv talk this

[buoyant hornet]

Do you have to release hold dodge before it consumes too many blue orbs or does it automatically stop?

[buoyant hornet]

I meant sss lol one of my accs sacced sss liv somehow

[noble zinc]

Auto stop when min seems am just hold dodge then spam ult button

[buoyant hornet]

Def not

[noble zinc]

Ss0 can't even do 3 rot

Maybe once in a decade

[buoyant hornet]

Btw does 3ult liv need dlt?

[noble zinc]

Need

[buoyant hornet]

Lol looks like liv is bound to get that r1 after all

I was gonna run sss r0 liv because it looks funny

[cosmic zodiac]

liv works with 4x Fredrick ?
I mean 4x heisen and 4x Fredrick ?

[buoyant hornet]

Was saving resos for kamui/rose in case they're tanks who need dlt

[buoyant hornet]

What context exactly lol

Also no she needs cottie

Dont tell me ingame recommendations have fred

[shy jackal]

kuro tryna stop people from kiwi

[buoyant hornet]

Literally lmfao it's like the game heard me talking about being on the verge of quitting and said "wait hold up"

[crimson swan]

pls help me im struggling with ppc

[blazing bridge]

Do you even need to mald PPC? Or just aim for 1.8m for IB?

[barren plank]

Yea there is no actual incentive to mald PPC anymore assuming u can get 1.8M every week

[crimson swan]

im just trying to get a decent score

[barren plank]

Unless it's a super hard week like this one

With 3 30M HP bosses

[noble zinc]

Oh that dlt less run

[buoyant hornet]

@noble zincIs nana forced to do the boring non cottie strat with ss3 liv or can she still do cottie

[noble zinc]

Now remember

[barren plank]

One of them being a shilled element half the games players dont have the BiS unit for

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah what I mentioned before still works without dlt

[barren plank]

Well technically PP is 27M HP but like

[buoyant hornet]

My liv is still r0 till now LMAO

[noble zinc]

Sp delay full without dlt can't

One rot only

[buoyant hornet]

She's 30

[barren plank]

Oh?

I though she was 27

[buoyant hornet]

wdym?

[noble zinc]

last 2 zone normal tried never got better

[noble zinc]

Df rot

That

For light

[barren plank]

Also can sm1 teach me new SS nihil rot?

[noble zinc]

Was saying

Dlt need

[buoyant hornet]

yeah it can be done without dlt and without sp delay

Only the first swap needs sp delay or hold dodge

[barren plank]

(2.132 123 Luna Wata Ish)

[simple dew]

what does pyro weather do

[buoyant hornet]

Nuke has a video one sec

[buoyant hornet]

brick the run

[simple dew]

[barren plank]

20% fire for every 3ping for 8s, stacks 3 times and can be refreshed

[simple dew]

whats so bad abt it

[noble zinc]

No I mean there 2 parts for df one can be done without dlt no sp delay

Another with dlt and sp delay(this was saying we push for light too ss0)

[buoyant hornet]

https://youtu.be/TOupNbnxh3c?si=ok7X2jAX0uM_Juql

[barren plank]

tyyyy

[buoyant hornet]

He has an ish rotation guide before the run

[buoyant hornet]

Wtf myc I literally didn't recognize you

😭

[noble zinc]

[buoyant hornet]

2 different strats?

I'm confusion 😭

[barren plank]

Lmao

[buoyant hornet]

Or do you mean she runs out of orbs within the run?

[barren plank]

Also can sm1 help me not pull Ishmael coating I have to resist the temptation

[noble zinc]

Brick more than once= retry

[pine slate]

Brick then kiwi

[noble zinc]

For sp delay

[barren plank]

Also Luna still wants DLT right?

[noble zinc]

Don't need

[tight marten]

is 4nat4cot better for ss0 liv if i go for 2 long ult rota? or should i stick to 4heisen4cot?

[buoyant hornet]

Too reliant on 3pings, wata doesn't use many 3pings if any and lucia's best damaging rotation (1ecliplse > 1slash rotation) gets screwed by it because she doesn't ping enough orbs before eclipse

[barren plank]

Natasha is S+ build only

[buoyant hornet]

And Vera's initial ult1 every swap-in is also weaker ig

[tight marten]

oh ok

[buoyant hornet]

You mean bricking sp delay attempts?

[simple dew]

doesnt she need to do like 3x ping before she gets the energy

[noble zinc]

yes

[tight marten]

can i do liv 3 ult rota (short+long+long) with dlt? she's ss0

[buoyant hornet]

with eclipse > slash she preps the pings before swapping out, not after

[simple dew]

what if sss

[buoyant hornet]

Slash>eclipse is where she pings enough orbs for weather before any ult2s

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't matter for sss only wata gets bricked by it

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah makes sense lol

[buoyant hornet]

Not really and honestly I haven't seen any notable score improvement/difference between dlt and non dlt lmao

All dlt does is give her more orbs for finality ult to consume which gives a bit more stacks for hold basic to be stronger

And does nothing for the 2nd rot

[shy jackal]

I planned on kiwi after blowing entire patch bc on 3s liffu only to get her in 84 pulls

Even then tho I feel so bored

Didn't even do all my ppc last week and I'm forgetting to do cr and norman

[median spade]

take a break they're healthy if you feel like you need one

[verbal forge]

🧱

[buoyant hornet]

I feel like most of us really need a good long break from the game

The whole gacha fomo thing and missing out on currency from taking breaks is a big issue

Honestly if it wasn't for the kamui and rosetta announcements I would've quit/taken a break a lot sooner lmfao

[drifting cipher]

My ass is getting demoted

[median spade]

i haven't felt burnt out from anything gacha related this year

used to feel it more often

[barren plank]

Dont join on Mondays

[median spade]

wuwa at the beginning a little bit

[shy jackal]

like idk why I’m getting bored

I never get bored of nikke, and that’s not bc of the ass

like genuinely I don’t think I’d put the same amount of mald I do in nikke to pgr

[buoyant hornet]

Me omw to join on a monday rn:

[drifting cipher]

Other days give better lobbies?

Also what counts as join? Opening up warzone or doing a fight

[shy jackal]

opening up

you get put into different brackets depending on the time you join

[median spade]

most malders join on mondays

some people who are lazy to fight for their spot join 30m before close and retain that way

some whels also join on sundays

[drifting cipher]

Huh. The more you know

Yeah last warzone I was about to be promoted and then out of nowhere when it was about to close

Someone joined and pushed me out by like 10m lol

[peak halo]

30m is enought to do 3 zone

[median spade]

my 3 1 taps took 20 this morning

for most whels its enough to clear a bracket

[peak halo]

[median spade]

46m

[tight marten]

should vera be leader in darkflow team if my liv is ss0? wata is ss0 too

[barren plank]

Liv

[tight marten]

alr

[peak halo]

My 1 taps goes sometimes more than 30m cuz seen a mistake restart

Specially in ice

So cant always truly 1 taps

[drifting cipher]

Is this build good for Darkflow? Or should I change Vera’s to do more damage

[peak halo]

4 guin on vera instead bathlon
Bit donno truly if ss0 liv how goes

[buoyant hornet]

Idk I prefer to have bathlon on either wata or liv for more shred consistency

[drifting cipher]

My Liv is ss3

[peak halo]

Then guin on vera

[buoyant hornet]

The only build I bothered to make so far was 4dv 2guin 2cot vera, 4alph 4bath wata, 4cot 2poincare 2bathlon (or 4poin) liv

[barren plank]

4Cottie on Liv and 4Guin on Vera

I prefer Bath on Liv ngl just for the more consistent damage application

[peak halo]

Its kinda felt ib build

[buoyant hornet]

So far all the different df build combinations seem to net very similar scores so I just went with what's cheapest to hypertune LMAO

[peak halo]

Fair

[buoyant hornet]

I already had dv guin on vera built, and wata bathlon is cheap and lowkey doesn't even need to be ht'd

Since he's already doing no damage

[drifting cipher]

My lightning build still runs Natasha 4pc because I built Liv day 1 and don’t wanna waste all those hypertunes lol

[buoyant hornet]

Natasha is pretty bad below sss though 😭

Uh how do I access my anniversary account history thing

[peak halo]

Even sss0 its 3% diff on my try
Not big but noticable

@noble zinc
Can give me inputs for 3ult liv rots?

[barren plank]

Starlit Dreams

Operation Summary Report

I guess Ill take this for my first time playing nihil wz since like Ishmael patch

[buoyant hornet]

Where can I access that pookie

[barren plank]

The tabs in the lobby

[buoyant hornet]

Pretty damn good yeah

[barren plank]

Upper left

[barren plank]

Do keep in mind it is hero

[median spade]

r3 ss is insane

[buoyant hornet]

Oh ig mine is still blocked behind the boss rematch event 🤡

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah still good overall but idk how much more it can improve

Haven't even played wz yet

[barren plank]

I think it can a lot cause all of my rotations were kinda sloppy

Wasnt getting Ish 3rd ult within amp timer

Wata was... bad

Also Im pretty sure I was rotating in the wrong order

Also I had Wata on DV insetad of shakes

[median spade]

alright hands are warm its time to fix my 1 taps

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's pretty tight

[buoyant hornet]

swap to shakes yea

[buoyant hornet]

good luck

[barren plank]

Gl

[keen meteor]

Lez go

Save NA

[median spade]

only you can do that lao

[drifting cipher]

My nihil runs are super bricked. I always forget Ishamel’s rotations

[dense tiger]

i have been lied to

[peak halo]

I cant forget
6min wz 1000 times in 1 week is unforgetable💀

[drifting cipher]

2 minutes into 6 minutes damn😭

[peak halo]

Or donno how much
Thats my longest mald

[pallid cypress]

well just got liv to SS3

[drifting cipher]

For the longest time I literally used Luna as main DPS instead of Ishmael since I couldn’t remember her rot

[peak halo]

[drifting cipher]

Still kinda do

[pallid cypress]

how much of a good investment is this?

[drifting cipher]

Did the same a few days ago. She’s soo good

[pallid cypress]

does her memory build change?

[median spade]

at ss3? no

[pallid cypress]

or she still uses Natasha?

oh wait, Natasha is SSS right?

[median spade]

she does not use natasha at ss or ss3

natasha S+

[pallid cypress]

that would be Heisen right?

[keen meteor]

Im a pleb

[peak halo]

Sss+

[median spade]

i'm pleb

[keen meteor]

No im pleb!

[peak halo]

On sss0 kinda equal to seen
But haisen felt better

[pallid cypress]

also im going to buy the Luna pack

[peak halo]

Ss3? luna

[peak halo]

If u plebs im homeless

[pallid cypress]

i feel dirty...

[median spade]

fat whel

[simple dew]

whale

[peak halo]

Then get it luna is luna

[keen meteor]

What ever do u mean bro

[pallid cypress]

just did and got her to SS4

[peak halo]

Comper to nathan
U not really know

[keen meteor]

Yeah he whel

Im pwoinvest

[peak halo]

pwowq ur sugardaddy

[median spade]

almondlao

me noob

[dense tiger]

quick question why would you rin 4gui 2cottie 2 eins on SS3 vera ?

for DF

[sly geyser]

a real question instead

why would you play this shite gaem

[median spade]

to support the main damage dealer liv

vera still does a lot of damage with that set

guin eins for buffing, 2 cot for quick rot

[carmine reef]

you will be surprised by how much damage vera does in full support set

and it will only make you look with even greater disgust at dirty bih veronica

[median spade]

hey at least vero's got one good zone

[dense tiger]

aight

here goes all my savings

last df reset i was told to run 4 sig 2 cottie 2 gui

time to hypertune another set

[carmine reef]

you were lied to horribly

[naive apex]

Is darkflow wz terrible, or am I just screwing it up?

[carmine reef]

you're probably screwing it up

[median spade]

are you holding all of your ults

[carmine reef]

df scores really really high rn

[naive apex]

Yeah, on the one attempt I actually finished. Because it's easy to forget one hold and reset.

[dense tiger]

it was on the pined comment tho.... it got edited since but it was

[carmine reef]

for me on my account it's my highest score record

[naive apex]

My fire team got way higher score than darkflow

[carmine reef]

yeah i'm the one that told them to edit it and what to edit it to

[dense tiger]

well i have 0 hypertune mats and not SC currency now gg

i had a good run

[carmine reef]

but we're caught up with cn now so you just have to learn not to expect fully accurate information on day 1

everyone is figuring it out at the same time

[dense tiger]

yah for sure that i why i waited until last day to do my WZ last time but i guess i was still early

all good tho

but that means that you use DLT on vera now not GS

[median spade]

don't need

[dense tiger]

wait you do 1 vera ult ?

[median spade]

uh

i'm not sure what low invest rot looks like

[dense tiger]

my vera is ss3 r2 .....

[peak halo]

Lowinvest need dlt

[median spade]

low

[dense tiger]

[median spade]

i think there are vids here with rots though

[carmine reef]

stoopid whel

[median spade]

for around that

[carmine reef]

ss vera does need dlt

get outta here with ur whel misinfo

[median spade]

whelhelp

[carmine reef]

also i'm pretty sure you should be running dlt too with sss

to do 2.5 rot

[peak halo]

[median spade]

i assumed it was the version of df where you neglect wata that needs dlt

3 vera 2 liv

[dense tiger]

do you like start vera swap wata and liv and repeat ?

[carmine reef]

yeah for you with sss that should be more damage for you than swapping wata

[peak halo]

My side Just 2 and fast watta

[carmine reef]

no, vera rot needed to stack

[dense tiger]

2 liv ult 2 vera and 1 fast wata

[carmine reef]

you can either start liv and do 1 wata 2 vera, or start wata and do 1 wata 1 vera

[dense tiger]

stack qtes

[peak halo]

But 3ult vera need dlt

[carmine reef]

what

you can't stack df with just qtes

[dense tiger]

i mean QTEs for the 50% dmg boost

[carmine reef]

??

[peak halo]

Vera buff

[keen meteor]

K whel

Smh

[median spade]

[keen meteor]

Ngu whel

[carmine reef]

i have no idea what you're trying to communicate now but you asked if vera start and i'm saying no you cannot vera start

you need to do a full rot on vera before liv

a full rot at minimum

[pallid cypress]

how much value the battle passes have?

[median spade]

its good

[pallid cypress]

which i should buy?

[dense tiger]

i got that i just wanted to know the why behind what you said you know to learn

[median spade]

both

[pallid cypress]

kinda wish there was a 100 BC pack

[carmine reef]

they why for what part?

the why for sss doing 2.5 rot?

or the why for not starting vera?

[dense tiger]

^

[simple dew]

cause entry skill

[carmine reef]

cause she needs to do a rot to stack the df stacks up for liv, and she actually does damage so you want her with amp buff

[median spade]

can any rank do the wata quick start

[carmine reef]

what does wata quick start entail that is different from any sss wata rot rn

[median spade]

ill show

[peak halo]

Get parry 3stack ult?

[stray siren]

Iirc yes

[median spade]

how did i 1 tap this

mob sucks

[ripe stag]

I don't understand
Why do non-PGR players or the casual PGR players complain about PGR meta and the fact that non-attackers deal more damage than attackers sometimes.
Like dude, if you don't understand the meta situation and/or how the basics of the game works, you literally don't have the rights to judge it

[peak halo]

Wtf that pasta

[stray siren]

Felao tech preleap
https://youtu.be/w3dFjNAjWtQ?si=6At0CSxlqkEnM644

[pallid cypress]

should i use my vouchers to SSS Luna?

or use them on Teddy?

[ripe stag]

"PGR should learn from Kuro Games' Wuthering Waves. Concerto system is so much better than QTEs" ah take

[ripe stag]

Teddy ofcourse

[graceful summit]

That's just...
Such a bad take

[ripe stag]

This type of people are probably the type to say "PGR should learn from Wuthering Waves made by Kuro Games"

[graceful summit]

They just can't comprehend that pgr is doesn't have the same fundamentals

They think gacha games is all the same

[pallid cypress]

to be fair is kinda bad that Vera kinda powercrept Lucia

[ripe stag]

https://fxtwitter.com/focalorsdeath/status/1997821724415651879

Ah yes let's just forget that PGR actually needs your brain to function if you play meta

dead (@focalorsdeath)

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[graceful summit]

Even tho the only thing that is the same between those two is the gacha game status

[ripe stag]

Amps/Tanks having higher damage than attackers was always a thing in PGR

Dude
PGR's "who deals higher damage in the team" is as simple as it can ever get
Whoever came out the latest for the team is gonna deal the most damage, generally. "Generally" cuz it's not always the case, males and freebies sometimes get intentionally nerfed cuz they are either free or male

[pallid cypress]

yeah fair

at least Lucia still has the spotlight in plasma beam

[graceful summit]

Yeah, these people is the reason why veronica is such a fraud at phys now

[ripe stag]

No
It's Kuro's fault tbf

[graceful summit]

They make kuro afraid to make Vero actually good

[ripe stag]

Vero being terrible at physical is totally Kuro's fault

[median spade]

this intro

[ripe stag]

They REALLY could have kept her at 40% Crit DMG + 75% Crit Rate on 2p Keats and with ok-ish damage which is higher than Hanying

BUT NO

• TERRIBLE DAMAGE AT SS0 ~ SS3
• NO REAL IMPROVEMENT OVER SSS0 LEAPED ALISA IF SS0 VERONICA
• DAMAGE SOMEHOW LOWER THAN HANYING AT SS0 ~ SS3

So she's literally just your "Ignition DPS and the reason ignition is fixed"

[ripe stag]

Did you see the fact that Liv's intro always has all the frames in it

[median spade]

wat

all of liv's frames?

[ripe stag]

The glass shards

[median spade]

yeah

[ripe stag]

You can see all the frames

[carmine reef]

yeah can do at any rank, there's nothing special going on, but i think doing this makes vera 2 rot mandatory as the followup

[barren plank]

"Fixed ingnition" with like 5 asterisks too

[carmine reef]

holy crap hero mob zone is so bricked

wave 44

7.6m score

[median spade]

i am still so bad at sp delay

but an improvement

[keen meteor]

[verbal wigeon]

Someone explain Darkflow rotation (SS rank Liv, Vera & Wata), and what memos?

[verbal forge]

Memos you can check in pins

[clever gulch]

hello, is there some kind of guide that compiles all the rotations for meta teams atm ? Like a ytn playlist or idk

Pulling my hair out trying to figure out nihil and phys rotations

[graceful summit]

There's this thing
#1447095509155057765 message
But like barely maintained

[clever gulch]

any youtube channels who might have something like this ?

[warm stirrup]

Okay I made the teams

Do I change anyone

I don't have solatune if you need my Huaxu it's in Bio

[simple dew]

storm

[spiral merlin]

r3 garnet with this account is insane

[barren plank]

Get Rosetta Rigor from the beginner missions selector

[warm stirrup]

Bruh I'm not a a Beginner

[molten garnet]

time to pull on anniv banner

[barren plank]

U still should have access to the missions even if you are not one

They should be permanently available

[warm stirrup]

My hauxu is in my bio if you need it

[barren plank]

Oh

Just replace storm with rigor then

[warm stirrup]

Ok

Fire team

This is worst team of them all I feel like

[spiral merlin]

Did you not pick wata in any selectors

[warm stirrup]

Bro I don't have him I use all my BC for Liv

[spiral merlin]

Selectors don’t use bc

And you have made some not so efficient uses of your bc

[barren plank]

Drop Bridget and Roland for Startrail and a healer

[warm stirrup]

Star and who could be a.healer.

[spiral merlin]

Why dante ss3 if 5*

[barren plank]

Oh wait Dante works ig

[graceful summit]

Maybe pull once and not his sig

[barren plank]

Tbh he’s not super weapon reliant

[rose yew]

Offrated probably

[barren plank]

Harmo loss but not a huge deal

[spiral merlin]

I would be inclined to believe that if there wasn’t an r3 garnet

[warm stirrup]

So star and dante

[spiral merlin]

Just a lot of questionable decisions mostly

[warm stirrup]

But it's just to pass pcc and wz

Enough to

[barren plank]

R3

[warm stirrup]

?

Okay so ice is elf explained

[graceful summit]

https://s1.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-1b7a649d97f18bf4.gif

What how

[simple dew]

[graceful summit]

Yangyang Brick

Now that's better

How the hell did it cropped there

[warm stirrup]

What?

Oh that's sick

I seen that before where it shrinks

[covert sky]

heyyo, I was able to get the selector that goes up to Bianca: Crepuscule any reccs on who i should get to SS3

this the link thing hopefully it helps
https://huaxu.app/na/players/17802574/characters

[simple dew]

does teddy need dlt

[graceful summit]

Hasn't released yet, not sure

[simple dew]

beta

[graceful summit]

You know beta stuff can't be sure right
Most use 444 anyway

Especially with the rot and stuff

If there's new rot discovered then it's even more unclear

[deft apex]

• she might have a few changes on live version

We truly just can't tell for sure until it's out

[maiden sleet]

what memory set for darkflow crimson weave?

[simple dew]

none

youre better off soloing vera if no liv

[maiden sleet]

alr ill just do the fire side instead

[warm stirrup]

What is R3

[graceful summit]

3 resonance on your weapon
Like this absolute brick decision you made

[warm stirrup]

Wait the ones I did trash or good

At the time i had the chips I relyed on Gray ravens website before I knew abt the discord

So that's probably why it's bricked

Or trash idk

[broken spindle]

Ismael or pyro

[sharp fern]

Right resos wrong weapon

Garnet is a dead unit

[warm stirrup]

All the bricked weapons I have are before I knew abt meta and the discord I relyed on the gray ravens website so right I'm rich and etc but imma have to start from 0 sort of just trying to get meta teams alternative teams for the characters I don't own and yeah

[carmine roost]

[warm stirrup]

Yeah I'm f up oh well I'm try to optimize now so yeah

[graceful summit]

For what context?
Tho generally ishmael

[broken spindle]

no context really just asking who’s more worth it in the long run

[graceful summit]

Then Ishmael

Pyro is not really worth to pull rn unless you have other characters already

[celest drum]

Worth going ss3 now? How much does she score in WZ with ss3 and ss team.

[carmine roost]

About 1m or 2 m moee

[warm stirrup]

SSJ3 Is probably the best version yet

Apart from SSJ2 And SSJ

[graceful summit]

jinshi_dumb

Wth is ssj

[carmine roost]

Elite ball knowledge ❌
Unc status knowledge ✅

[deft apex]

So real bestie

I fr thought I was in the wrong server for a second though

[warm stirrup]

Yeah but I feel Like SSJ Blue is like godly

Forget all this SSJ123456 SSS+ Where it's at is MUi

[plain oyster]

False ssj best

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1447207563153379512/1234.gif?ex=6936c892&is=69357712&hm=d69aa85da7b8fb773205aba390e17c1f809f8a08d2c2764ea9b8862d9c37fc52&

[warm stirrup]

Nah Bro MUi

[worldly valve]

anyone have the rot for void that has sss oblivion, sss epitaph, and ss3 parhelion (with a 4 dav 4 guin build)

[carmine roost]

Nope

@noble zinc lend us a hand

[worldly valve]

saw someone on the leaderboard have 10m on it while i only got 760k

might be skill issue but i just followed a video that had a rot with Ish's signature mems + cottie

and we have abt the same investment

[limber yoke]

why are you using ish as a support

she should have gone with 4sig mem 4 cottie

[worldly valve]

thats not my build

that was someone else's who used it and scored 10mil

[limber yoke]

wat

i dont think he uses that

u might saw his ppc build

lmao

[worldly valve]

oh wait i completely forgot that theres also lightning wz and the guy probably used ish there too

i had a wtf moment when i saw it at first and couldnt believe wat i saw so ig it is skill issue

[carmine roost]

[gilded flint]

@chilly trail does SS0 hold ba before ult 1 in phys too or is it a glaciation thing with Klev only?

Also is 4 burana 4 klev confirmed to better 4 burana 2 klev 2 cot?

burana klev needs dlt
but other one can run GA

[nova forum]

[gilded flint]

Are you selenalao?

[dawn cloak]

No, thats pwowq

Who runs 5* sig team just to SSS+ Selena

[limber yoke]

yes

theres no reason to run cottie

on glacio for below 3s

[gilded flint]

even if no GA?

[limber yoke]

ye

[gilded flint]

Yay, thank you

Now I need to wait chairlao

[dawn cloak]

This is a normal score if you bruteforce wz with wrong element
Might be you havent build your unit
Unless you mean 7.6m score

[sinful anvil]

does darkflow or fire have a higher ceiling rn

[dawn cloak]

Darkflow 444 reached 20m said nergi
And its mobs now

[carmine roost]

At this point

I think malding void would give me more hand workout than any of my session would

[dense tiger]

petition to request more simulation shop mats next patch ?

[carmine roost]

No

[dawn cloak]

[dawn cloak]

What?

[dense tiger]

wdym no

[plain oyster]

We broke nothing we can do about that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1443227734116663337.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=AngryPheeb&animated=true

[carmine roost]

If u ran out of simulated currency that's just poor resources management

[dense tiger]

600 serum give you 2k simulation shop mats why are we getting scammed

[dawn cloak]

You mean more things to buy?
Buyable gacha tickets there pls

[carmine roost]

Wdym scammed

That's the actual rates

[plain oyster]

[dense tiger]

mb for trying to rebuild my entire roster

[carmine roost]

Look at this sync spoiled man

React of shame

[dawn cloak]

30 serum gives 240-270 bro
Just play on sync patch

[dense tiger]

i feel worthless

i had 200k point before liv patch

i have 1k now

[dawn cloak]

~~ you could build an entire army ~~

It even reached 999999 and overflow at some pount

[dense tiger]

gimme some

[radiant panther]

DF brick cause wata kill mob faster than flash while on Light, I keep bricking Ish ult so for the entire run, no ult happening

[dense tiger]

what is your invest good sir

[dense tiger]

tbh like building 7 teams from scratch again did a lot of damage to my savings i had to HT 12 more memory set and lvl them

[radiant panther]

DF 2.332 111, Light 2.32.32 121 Ishmama amp

[carmine roost]

[dense tiger]

i see

[plain oyster]

Hmm, u swap with ish in light

[radiant panther]

Im using Nuke's Hero Light rot no SP Delay

[dense tiger]

i feel like you could get better in DF

[carmine roost]

My ish is r2, my feral is r0

Ofc I do

[plain oyster]

Mine is sigles-

[carmine roost]

ish timestop better for Liv qte nook anyway

[radiant panther]

Same with Yoshiko SS0 r0 Feral

[radiant panther]

afaik she can outright cancel the qte animation of liv lol

[carmine roost]

Feral/nana can do that already too

You just need to timing it

[plain oyster]

I might try that

[carmine roost]

Using Liv nuke qte in the middle timestop would trigger it without animation

But u have ss3 liv, u have the better Qte nuke

[dense tiger]

this is same invest as you Potatoe only i use ss0 r0 feral for light

[plain oyster]

Me 5m ss0 rn, can still improve

[carmine roost]

I'm still busy trying void to mald lightning at all

[dense tiger]

and i need to figure out wtf i am doing wrong in DF

[carmine roost]

[radiant panther]

Ish can do better honestly, swap in > 2 Blue > Liv QTE + Ish ult simulataneously (with a slight bias on qte)

[dawn cloak]

Bricked merit
95/100 🥀

[dense tiger]

i know i go from hero to legend every week i finish 3rd everytime on my legend bracket

[radiant panther]

planning to get 6m later since I have exam this afternoon but my mistakes were all ish ult not proccing and I swap too early

[dense tiger]

i see

[carmine roost]

6m is ss0 Liv score

[plain oyster]

[dense tiger]

yeah we get it we are bad

[dawn cloak]

Exam first. Real life important
To get a good paying job ~~ and whale more ~~

[dense tiger]

tbh last time we had light WZ i did get 8 mil so idk wtf is wrong with me this week

[radiant panther]

no need to mald exam cause, all you need was to memorize few things then its easy

[carmine roost]

Real and true

[dawn cloak]

Duo elite enemy
Them getting separated and u hit only one can happen

[dawn cloak]

Exam easier than pgr watduhell

[radiant panther]

pull cubs were a must

[dawn cloak]

What kind of exam u having lol
Being easier than gaems

[dense tiger]

yeah i quit

[radiant panther]

English test lol, thats the only subject we need to take, no majors cause those love practical which I like ahahaha

[carmine roost]

Liv isn't even that bad against duo