📨・meta-help

[noble zinc]

3 rot with wata is bad

[barren plank]

Out of interest

Might Gei be better?

I lose 10% shred

[noble zinc]

Can't

7.5 it is with vera

Avrg

[barren plank]

Oh

[noble zinc]

Others already done

[simple dew]

2.322 phys rot?

[crystal rune]

It’s something

[rocky wedge]

[carmine roost]

I mean why not

If you have the voucher

But teddy is coming tho

[graceful summit]

Sss teddy instead

[simple dew]

phys so ahh

im in legend so i can slack anyway

nirvatia a rank

[rustic pollen]

@noble zinc @barren plank Here's My Run ( Please Ignore The Fact That I Cooked My 1st Rotation )

[orchid owl]

I think you should be able to insta slam with nanami and still make it for the swap timer

So do that the first time

And by first rot I assume you meant pyro?

[simple dew]

this week wz so ass

[orchid owl]

You do 2 red not 3 other than that it seems good

[noble zinc]

Orb overping for start

bad

[orchid owl]

Nanami does 2 rotations, you had to wait for pyro because you didn't

Insta slam -> normal 4 BA

[chilly trail]

They just want to do 5 slash

[orchid owl]

My bad

[noble zinc]

Also idk if per holding if not do it

Ult

Makes things way easier

[orchid owl]

I think he was on pyro 2nd rotation

You can see instant cast before ult appears

[peak halo]

Thats rot i to wanna learn, but sp delay not wanna get

[rustic pollen]

The First One Where I Use 2 Slash And One Eclipse

[rustic pollen]

Actually SSS Lucia Pyroath Reduces Swap Cooldown

[peak halo]

[rustic pollen]

So Nanami Here Is Good With One Rotation

[rustic pollen]

By Overlapping U Mean ???

[peak halo]

Not sss nanami reduce it
Its tank passive
Not attacker

[rustic pollen]

Also I Did Mess The First Rotation

It's Usually 2 Red BA Then ULT - Slash ULT HA BA Slash ULT Then 6 Blue Orbs - HA - Eclipse

[rustic pollen]

Wait Really

Wait

I Gotta Check Again

I Followed This One

Unless He's Wrong SSS Should Reduce Team Switching Cooldown

[peak halo]

Wtf that misinfo

[rustic pollen]

Eh ???

[peak halo]

I wanna seen where swapcd reduction here

Only sss tank reduce swap cd

[orchid owl]

I think what he meant but didn't clarify, is that SSS pyro can stay on field for longer

but the wording is ambigous and if interpreted as you did, it's fully wrong

[peak halo]

Maybie that i assum too

[orchid owl]

I don't even know if this is true either, might be bogus, I only have SS3 pyro

yeah SSS or not it shouldn't matter because you rotate until plasma runs out which is not 15s

[crystal rune]

yea

[rustic pollen]

Dammm I've Been Bricking My Run This Entire Time

[crystal rune]

it doesnt matter since pyro always limited to 12s of field time

and you want to maximize that no matter what

since lilith and nanami do no damage

[rustic pollen]

Oh Okae I Get It Now

I Think I Understood It Wrong Then

[orchid owl]

read the rest though

bottom line is you need SSS nanami for whatever he is doing

[rustic pollen]

Got It

[rustic pollen]

That's What Confuses Me Even More

At Least Now I'm Clear On This

Thanks A Bunch

[orchid owl]

you're welcome

[rustic pollen]

Back Into The Rabbit Hole I Go

Okae

Now I Don't Even Know What's Happening

I Kinda Cooked During The Start Of Lucia's 2nd Rotation Wanted To Do Red Orbs Then ULT

Look

[pine slate]

[rustic pollen]

@orchid owl @noble zinc @crystal rune This Time Too

It Didn't Show My 5 Ult

Until I Pinged Blue Orbs A Third Time

[orchid owl]

but why are you pinging 3 red

[rustic pollen]

But By That Time My Plasma Gauge Was Over

[orchid owl]

you just need 2

[rustic pollen]

During The 1st Or 2nd ???

Rotation

[orchid owl]

1st

even nukelao mentioned it

#📨・meta-help message

that's what he meant by overping

[rustic pollen]

So 1st Rotation 2 Red Ping

Okae

But Why Wouldn't My ULT Be Full For My 5th Ult

Look I Have So Much Time

[crystal rune]

Why you tapping ba before doing reds

[rustic pollen]

On The Plasma Gauge

[crystal rune]

Just swap > 3 red > ba > hold ult

[orchid owl]

also wtf is that

full gauge and 4 red

like nergi said

[rustic pollen]

That's A Mistake On My End It Was Supposed To Be On Red Orbs Then BA

[crystal rune]

No need to land either after first rot

[rustic pollen]

Before Hold ULT

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[orchid owl]

you messed up a bit of nanami rotation too

you kind of goofed around after 1st ult but the rot itself was well executed

[rustic pollen]

Gotcha

[orchid owl]

if you want I can record a plasma rot for you
I just don't think I know how to do 5 slash lmao

[rustic pollen]

I Just Can't Understand Why My 5th ULT Won't Charge

I'm Trying To Understand That Specifically

[rustic pollen]

Oh

Okae

I'm Still Wondering Why My ULT Won't Charge For The 5th Time

I'm So Lost

[golden nacelle]

nergi

[crystal rune]

Éc

Muốn j

[golden nacelle]

toi muon bu lon cau

[crystal rune]

Cmm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1084721330726895616.gif

[golden nacelle]

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[rustic pollen]

May God Have Mercy On My Soul

I Still Can't Figure Out Why My 5th Ult Won't Charge

[jovial matrix]

5th plasma?

[rustic pollen]

[orchid owl]

I can't do 5 slash

[carmine roost]

Are you trying 5 slash in the first rotation or what

[orchid owl]

you need SSS for that

[rustic pollen]

Yeah Lucia's 5th Slash ULT During 2nd Rotation

[carmine roost]

5 slash 2nd rotation

[orchid owl]

but I can show you the basics if that helps

[rustic pollen]

2nd

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

Yeah buddy good luck

[rustic pollen]

Yeah

[jovial matrix]

nah you can do that with SS3 R1 lucia

[dawn cloak]

You can, just not on 2nd rot

[carmine roost]

I've only know 1 guy that does that

[orchid owl]

really?

[dawn cloak]

Or maybe you can. SS0 Cant

[orchid owl]

SS3

[jovial matrix]

i'm not sure you can do that on 2nd rotation, i know you can do 3rd rot

[carmine roost]

And I kinda vaguely remember his name anyway

[rustic pollen]

Soon To Be 2

[dawn cloak]

SS3 got extra energy

[rustic pollen]

Source : Trust Me Bro

[carmine roost]

Surely that "soon" isn't 1 week or 2 weeks later

[jovial matrix]

i legit have done 5th ult, but on 3rd rot

[orchid owl]

also what do you run with lilith, 4 guin or 2 guin 2 eins on plasma?

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

4 guin

[rustic pollen]

I'm Already Almost Done

[orchid owl]

yeah ok ditch that video you were watching @rustic pollen

that guy has too much misinfo

[rustic pollen]

Started Practicing Plasma Last Night For The First Time

[carmine roost]

Eins kinda bad cuz pyro killing waves very quickly to make eins anything good

[jovial matrix]

gotta love bricks on vids

[orchid owl]

here the team setup, make sure you got that right before anything

[carmine roost]

Which one is it

[orchid owl]

https://youtu.be/wB2j0_IpNik this guy

[carmine roost]

Oh

[golden nacelle]

Tsubasayo habatake

[dawn cloak]

You mean you want it to be ONLY 2x 3blue + hold BA -> hold ult even on the 5th slash ult?
Adding extra 3 ping is common to make up for lack of energy tbh
Then again, Im SS0 only, so the 5 slash not on 2nd ult

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

Tomi tolol

We hate that guy

[orchid owl]

[rustic pollen]

Already Did

[rustic pollen]

I Think It Was 4 Da Vinci And 2 Guin

[orchid owl]

no harmony?

[rustic pollen]

Wanted 4 Guin But Don't Have Mats For Weapon Reso

[golden nacelle]

I miss the era when lucia spoke this multiple times in 2min worzone

[rustic pollen]

Gotcha

[rustic pollen]

Bro That Voiceline Is Stuck Inside My Head At This Point

[rustic pollen]

Unfortunately Don't Have Extra Weapons For That

Or Mat

[icy otter]

It's not in mine because I don't play plasma

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[peak halo]

I have on mine but i also no play plasma

[rustic pollen]

Wait U Definitely Need Extra Weapons Or That Special Yellow Mat For Weapon Harmony Right ???

[dawn cloak]

Just red can

[carmine roost]

What yellow

[rustic pollen]

Which Red Mat

-_-

[dawn cloak]

Red can

Cola can

[peak halo]

[dawn cloak]

Just check ur sig wp menu bro

[golden nacelle]

[dawn cloak]

[carmine roost]

That yellow USB is for resonance

Not harmo

[icy otter]

You don't need weapons for harmony

[rustic pollen]

I Had Enough For One Weapon And Spent It On My Lucia

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[rustic pollen]

Where Do I Get More Red Cans

[carmine roost]

Clash Reflection

[rustic pollen]

Oh Yeah Sorry

[golden nacelle]

pain cage shop

[orchid owl]

I think I got the video

[carmine roost]

Or just swipe some voucher for some

[orchid owl]

dalaos can affirm or deny it's purpose

[dawn cloak]

Dunno I have 150 got nothing to be used on

[carmine roost]

[dawn cloak]

Clash reflection gamemode

Pls never use skull to buy it

[rustic pollen]

TF

[icy otter]

It's true

[rustic pollen]

Never

[rustic pollen]

Nope

[carmine roost]

I'm holding like 200 rn

[rustic pollen]

I'll Die Before I Do That

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[peak halo]

I have 500💀

[carmine roost]

The pain of old ahh acc

[rustic pollen]

I Feel So Tourist Right Now It's Embarrassing

[dawn cloak]

Well, what were YOU doing months ago?
How can you not have many red can

[rustic pollen]

Dunno

[dawn cloak]

Harmony 3 unlocked
Trust

[carmine roost]

Bro didn't tally clash that weren't finished

[rustic pollen]

[rustic pollen]

U Have One ???

Gimme Please

[dawn cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1359470651047415839.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=Lilick&animated=true

[orchid owl]

ok I just counted it's only 4 slash

I messed up the 2nd rot start

[carmine roost]

Bruh

[rustic pollen]

Dies From The Inside

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[rustic pollen]

[carmine roost]

Just skip plasma fr fr

[dawn cloak]

No way bro SS3 pyro player so wahsed?

[orchid owl]

I usually just one tap

I watch lucia fly and clear

[rustic pollen]

Nah

I Gotta Ragebait Someone So

Kidding

[carmine roost]

We don't even have plasma this week

[dawn cloak]

I still dont understand what you want
Or dont like
Youre already doing 5 slash, just need to be abit faster to be inside 12 sec plasma orb
And just fix the opening red orb combo

[crystal rune]

I’ll send a recording in 3 hours

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[peak halo]

I cant1 tap restart button goes hard.
I play other zone instead
Specially if better

[rustic pollen]

I Wanna Say Something Right Now But I Know If I Say It Out Loud Someone's Gonna Shoot Me Straight In The Head

[dawn cloak]

Pinging extra 3 blue orb to fill missing energy is common strats. At least it is on my playing SS0 Plasmaoath

[rustic pollen]

Gotcha

[carmine roost]

[timber lily]

Can you help me how to physical rotation with vergil, hanying and Veronica?

[dawn cloak]

https://youtu.be/AAS1NroK3ms?si=Boi5L9JMJyStZ0r7

[rustic pollen]

Mine Is SSS So

[carmine roost]

He tried to understand it

[rustic pollen]

I'm Just Gonna Dip Before I Say A Certain Something Out Loud And Get Shot In The Head

[dawn cloak]

Yeah. So do you mean SSS never need to do extra 3 ping orb for the 5th slash?
Or what? If yes, where do you get this info?

[rustic pollen]

[dawn cloak]

Yes

[peak halo]

I no

[dawn cloak]

Cuz kuro spam it back to back for 4 weeks straight

[carmine roost]

What's plasma

[dawn cloak]

Just to sell her wedding skin

[crystal rune]

True

Wedding skin is ass

[peak halo]

Wedding

[orchid owl]

man 5 slash is confusing now that I see it
I never done it before

mfw SS3 pyroath is using SS0 rot

[golden nacelle]

[dawn cloak]

SS3 and never done 5slash is diabolical

[crystal rune]

Cay giu v

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[orchid owl]

yeah

[crystal rune]

Idol skin better

[dawn cloak]

Idol? Swimsuit you mean?

She become water unit fr

[peak halo]

Tracksuit liv skin when

[crystal rune]

No her debut skin

[golden nacelle]

skin dep vl may con ga bit gi

[dawn cloak]

lololol thats academia skin not idol

[crystal rune]

Same thing

[golden nacelle]

skin đám tang

[dawn cloak]

Well, it does look like one specific idol skins

[orchid owl]

you get enough energy for 3 consecutive slashes iirc from 4th one on you need 3 ping/ba

[crystal rune]

Mat m co van de r

[orchid owl]

anyways I think I'm not getting the 1 orb I need because of lucia missing the mob

what do you think chat

(training stage)

[golden nacelle]

[carmine roost]

You should end your ||plasma run||self

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-eijivision-gif-6073182353830757804

[rustic pollen]

U Know I Just Realized

The Damm Mob Just Dies Right After My 4th Slash ULT

[orchid owl]

don't worry about that

that mob was made for old units to be "unkillable"

and it respawns after death

so in training stage when practicing, it might not be an accurate result

character might not hit the 1 mob
character might kill the mob and not get energy/orb or whatever

[rustic pollen]

That's The Thing

Maybe My Blue Orbs After 4th Slash ULT Ain't Hitting ???

[orchid owl]

that doesn't matter
orbs don't need to hit to give you energy and bar

[rustic pollen]

Gotcha

[orchid owl]

it only might matter when doing wz and trying to get all the damage in

[distant wren]

real, wedding skin is ass

[crystal rune]

WorryYouknowit

[crystal rune]

default coating best lucia coating

catnips

[distant wren]

...

naur bro trippin again

black dress+swimsuit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base+wedding

[crystal rune]

no im joking obviously

worry_what

fish coating was lowkey kinda mid

[orchid owl]

gacha?

if so I agree

[crystal rune]

hydroath

[orchid owl]

wa

[crystal rune]

that fish

[orchid owl]

I thought you meant lamia

[crystal rune]

not the other one

[orchid owl]

[crystal rune]

yea

but uh

fish gacha skin was better than her other 2

for sure

[orchid owl]

it looked like they sht on screen but I respect your opinion

can R2 luna do 8s tb hell?

or better yet should I R2 luna or no

she is already R1

[timber lily]

Did I choose the wrong resonance for hanying?☠️
Context: I use class skill instead of core passive

[orchid owl]

no I think she needs class

in case I'm wrong you should wait for other's feedback before you start going ham on reso

[timber lily]

Doesn't she need core passive for phys?

[orchid owl]

well she does rotate but idk if it's better than class considering she is not the main dps of neither phys nor true slash

[spiral merlin]

chopped fr

[timber lily]

https://tenor.com/view/nose-fur-kawaii-sniff-canine-gif-20552016

[simple dew]

[dawn cloak]

Class is correct. Han low dmg now
Used to be she use core passive when release

[orchid owl]

how tf do you NOT trigger dv while qteing? this guy did it but I cannot replicate for the life of me
https://youtu.be/K4gJeVd2MN4

even if I trigger the QTE of the non-QTE member it still puts DV on cooldown

and this guy does the same thing yet still casts double QTE on dante

[crystal rune]

oh

this clip

you need double davinci

dv on wata and dv on ish

[orchid owl]

OH

I thought it was only one

[crystal rune]

this is my strat

catnips

[orchid owl]

that explains a lot

it's my strat too because ss3 lucia too weak or something idk

[crystal rune]

i think it mightve needed r3 donte

[orchid owl]

I have R2 I'll see if I need inca or not

[crystal rune]

sss dante is faster than SSS pyro in hell and same speed as S+ geravoir/S+ pyro

[orchid owl]

not just that, I tried 9s pyro on knight and it didn't work

idk why

[crystal rune]

idt ss3 pyro can 9 knight gwyn

maybe shorthalt

but not gwyn

[orchid owl]

oh wait not this one

https://youtu.be/UCB45O7FmyY

[crystal rune]

oh

[orchid owl]

but R3

so

that's probably why I can't

my pyro is R1 only

[crystal rune]

yes

r3 is big difference

[orchid owl]

I cracked the code

SSS R2 dante can do 10s hell

just need 3 ping ult wata start

[crystal rune]

nice

claire also said can 10s if ish and wata had full ht

but thats a bit expensive

[orchid owl]

mm wata didn't have full ht

2 gloria

these were my memories

but ish did

[dawn cloak]

Do we now apply the ish fred tech?

[orchid owl]

the what

[dawn cloak]

https://youtu.be/FTARRb0m09Y?si=CFhlkGxdXZzsV-FV

[orchid owl]

this is crazy zaza

[dawn cloak]

New heights

[spiral merlin]

its not just zaza its better

[dawn cloak]

Vergil revives Fred usage (I think)
Now its being explored more and more

[orchid owl]

ik it's just so unusual

this haunts me
the fact that this was in the meta

those few weeks were a pain in the ahh

[carmine roost]

They should have let us use feral for ion smh

Sync took everything

[dawn cloak]

Such wise words from our helper

[orchid owl]

yes I know this one

[deft apex]

Wait Fred being used again?

On who?

[crystal rune]

always has been

[crystal rune]

on any qte bot (usually most of the time ish/amp)

[deft apex]

Ayla Fred?

[crystal rune]

suske~1

[dawn cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1333754551341285418.webp?size=48&name=suske~1

[limber yoke]

worgil

[median shell]

[distant wren]

Actually nice tech for when gen3 attackers become qte bot

[crystal rune]

worry_what

[distant wren]

Just slap fred on em, buffs both off field nuke and the main dps in matrix

[crystal rune]

owhh

ass for wz

[slender scarab]

it goes crazy on triple qte qu

[distant wren]

We're at least lucky we didn't have to experience pyro daren feral ion

Lol

[orchid owl]

ok can someone explain

https://youtu.be/I4irGmomQRQ?t=74

this guy gets a RED ORB ON LILITH
by doing a single ping that is not visible on the screen?

[crystal rune]

hes doing the 8th ping first

so its 1p > 3p > 3p > red

[orchid owl]

yes I just tried it myself

this is crazy

[young badge]

its in nuke vid

[orchid owl]

and now I don't have enough energy for 3rd rot

ok I didn't use lingya

it works

but wtf man

1 orb -> red orb
it's literally the same as a 3 ping

she just doesn't do the 3 ping damage

[crystal rune]

if you do 1p then red then you dont get a stack from that red

[ashen parcel]

Can someone help and tell me

how does ultima slash work?

[rose yew]

It doesn’t

[tired ivy]

Responding really late but unfortunately I'm don't have his sig that's I'm asking if I should go build for discord

[ashen parcel]

No jokes pls i genuinlly need to know how i can optimize the Affix

[young badge]

wdym

u jst stack

and use it

[orchid owl]

maybe not if you use it for 5

but you can still do 4 or 3 stack

[dawn cloak]

RIP

Have Veronica? Then Vero main dps, with Alisa for memo qte bot

[tired ivy]

The new frame?

[dawn cloak]

Got Hanying tank btw right?

[dawn cloak]

If no Hanying just forget phys ever exist
We bruteforce off element on it instead
Use burn/darkflow or any team that has highest dmg

[tired ivy]

Ok the usual then

[young badge]

ss rosetta

[peak halo]

[orchid owl]

if he has sig
otherwise storm

[peak halo]

Just light it

[young badge]

he prob got her sig instead of echo sig

[tired ivy]

You mean the new that's coming right?😂

[ashen parcel]

Does luna class skill convert physical too?

[peak halo]

No

[young badge]

no

[peak halo]

If had sss0 liv and ish

[orchid owl]

affix has more damage

so darkflow liv

[tired ivy]

I do have Rosetta sig but not ss

[young badge]

no vera

[peak halo]

But slow to setup

But yeah i had too whel mindset nowadays

[tired ivy]

Who should I get from this they all ss

[peak halo]

And loving light nowadays

[peak halo]

Wanshi > lilith> wata> luna

Also get first all ss3

[tired ivy]

Wanshi 🤔?

[dawn cloak]

Wanshi yes. And Teddy next patch for SS0 without skull
Tho if your skull is at 500+ can use the discounted 100 skulls for 10 shards, then voucher the rest

[peak halo]

Ohh forgor teddy

But also ice bricked without 3s wanshi

[dawn cloak]

No

[peak halo]

Personaly

[tired ivy]

Oh that's nice then

[dawn cloak]

S0 Wanshi more bricked

[dawn cloak]

🐳

[peak halo]

[plain oyster]

k whel

[dawn cloak]

Burn has setup?

Oh, ure talking darkflow

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1446786176861343838/1446917852333605128/1446898784435966273_1.png?ex=6935bac2&is=69346942&hm=d9fb7aefb31d621001a480aec2d9e0c822f38c329c064dd84381844c642916cb&

[peak halo]

If count that 2 or 3s for nana ult1 yes

[tired ivy]

I thought Luna would be better for flexibility but I guess not, thx a lot for the help @dawn cloak and @peak halo

[dawn cloak]

Flexibility on what?
If Luna as qte bot outside nihil, she works even at S0

Eh wait ur Luna already SS0

So dunno what u mean

[peak halo]

If minimum 3s 1 fastrot for qte nuke on ib

But ss0 yes

[dawn cloak]

🐳

[tired ivy]

Oh... I was using her wrong all this time....

[peak halo]

Also is pyro qte dmg not need to became nuke after slash too.
I get the qte dmg up when eclipse
But slash not really seen

[mortal berry]

Hey guys, I stop at 2022, any fast guide that I can absorb? I have the old lighting Bianca and alpha only lol…

[round lake]

[peak halo]

Huh

[graceful summit]

[mortal berry]

Is crimson weave strong? I get it for free just now

Older alpha

[peak halo]

Not

Get liv instead

[mortal berry]

Is she free or ?

[peak halo]

15k bc

[mortal berry]

I get pyro Vera

[peak halo]

[round lake]

Pyro bad pick tbh

[mortal berry]

Wah this game doesn’t give good reward for player like me which stop for long long time

[peak halo]

We had now returnee events

[mortal berry]

Usually other game if I logged in for stopping long time will have tons of free pullsssss

The returnee event is not even friendly ….

[round lake]

My route:
Get Vera Geiravor from Bas Research
Get Nanami Startrail from Thunderbolt
Get Liv from limited banner

at this point you're effectively a newbie

[mortal berry]

Are them work as a team?

[carmine roost]

You get like 10 pulls or more so after returning back, and 10 more pulls because it's anniversary

How much more do you want???

[peak halo]

I donno
I only miss a single day or 2 in my entire pgr acc so

🧱

[round lake]

Vera and Nanami are two best soloist in the game and meta in multiple teams

Liv is Nanami's teammate

and she's limited so there's that

[mortal berry]

Haha fomo pull

😆😆

[round lake]

our very first limited non-collab

more will come

[mortal berry]

Moneysssss

[peak halo]

[round lake]

their revenue increased this patch

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1447168543555846194/1420032024411902074-1.webp?ex=6936a43b&is=693552bb&hm=21357e30152caa6c52c1bd7e1d2d05d3f7b76a53ac883ec001f330cfefbf38a4&

[round lake]

it worked

[mortal berry]

All CN game works the same way

[peak halo]

Even f2p get it day1 if not pulling for coating or play consistently

[young badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388810141503197296/1445771450588856433/Omg.gif

[mortal berry]

Sorry to ask, newbie like me now how should I spend my serum?

[dawn cloak]

On simulated battlefield
To farm the coin on the above pic

[jovial matrix]

i got less than 300, send some to me

[mortal berry]

Is the one with multiple attempt checked?

Ytd it just burnt my 420serum in one click

[dawn cloak]

Also do this returnee event
Like him on that channel #📨・general-help message
Gives 3600 total yellow+red gacha ticks

Pic on where to find event, below

[round lake]

Although it's your main place to farm until you're dead, you might wanna spare serum for Story too, cause obviously BC is your most needed resources now

from certain chapter onward, story will no longer cost serum

[mortal berry]

I stopped at ch9 lol

So Damm old

[mortal berry]

I need to click on Babylonia menu to enter this right?

It is very very lag there , I back to main menu after 3min of walking

[dawn cloak]

No its from usual main lobby

[mortal berry]

Oh let me check , thank you all kind humans

[dawn cloak]

Oh yea spare some serum for story
Gives lots of bc still if only at ch9
Also check general help ch, I tag u there

[mortal berry]

Okays

3q

[cobalt prawn]

Lowkey haven’t touched story since ch 12🤣

I should speedrun thru that one day

[simple dew]

[golden nacelle]

[simple dew]

siege or not?

[nova forum]

siege

just realized it doesn't matter cuz how busted both are

[simple dew]

probably selena

[nova forum]

eh

[simple dew]

cause i have ss3 liv and she still has orb problems

[nova forum]

ye but this is siege

[simple dew]

im talking about siege

[nova forum]

she'll get orb drought after like 1 minute of ult spam

nvm that's dumb

[simple dew]

im talking from experience she doesnt

fast ult eats too many orbs and slow ult is slow

[nova forum]

imma just use swap cuz phys is crippled

[crystal rune]

lamia

catnips

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1084721330726895616.gif

[nova forum]

i forgot how to use lamia

[normal sierra]

slow ult isn't slow enuff in siege if you ask me

[dawn cloak]

Liv Selena Han
Liv 1x ult to activate qte nuke
Then solo Selena all the way, orchest ult cuz more timestop

[clever gulch]

hello, have almost enough to SS a cub, who should i up between crepuscule's, limpidity's, daemonissa's, and startrail's ? I also have a cub selector i could use on lucid dreamer or pianissimo

[dawn cloak]

Wanshi cub is legit broken ngl
Selena cub good too tho hmmmm

So whel smh 🐳

[graceful summit]

Might be better to just scrap the dupes tho, and get another cubs entirely

[clever gulch]

ngl i got all of these with tickets at like 5/10 pity except stratrail's lol

[dawn cloak]

But this is meta
Maybe he can use the SS cub benefit

For that 5% edb

[graceful summit]

.

[dawn cloak]

Lefit cub is low pity. 100% rate on debut, and 5% rate to get 6* cub

[normal sierra]

but who said he has any dupes?

[clever gulch]

wym ? i dont have dupes

i can SS one with revival plan

[graceful summit]

To ss a cub you need a dupes

[clever gulch]

oh

[graceful summit]

2 dupes to be exact

[clever gulch]

[dawn cloak]

He can buy the ore for the dupes
But that was ok on gen help
If he have the money, SS cub is so worth it

[graceful summit]

And you craft them from 30 shards from norman

[dawn cloak]

Especially if buying bp cub

[normal sierra]

I dun buy bp, still have many ss cubs

[dawn cloak]

Yeh, but missing 5% edb kinda hurts
If he already spends, might as well go SS cub

[dawn cloak]

Gib luck

Ah u fossils

[graceful summit]

Ig the first question is do you spend.

[plain oyster]

Oh then buy mine instead

[clever gulch]

i dont plan on spending anything for cubs ( anymore a least ), just wondering for which cub i should buy 60 ore with the revival plan ressources

[normal sierra]

he spends ores

[orchid owl]

@crystal rune do you have yt channel?

[dawn cloak]

What Liv and Crepes rank btw?

[crystal rune]

yes

[rose yew]

he spends time

[crystal rune]

check on my profile

[clever gulch]

crepes ? Liv is SS, not sure who is crepes lmao

[normal sierra]

you giga whel, can fund whole EU by yyourself, you should buy for me

[graceful summit]

Crepuscule

[dawn cloak]

Capsule
Bonca

[clever gulch]

ah SS as well

[dawn cloak]

Bianca

[plain oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1446753069571379280/1420032024411902074.webp?ex=6935214b&is=6933cfcb&hm=dcba2f4eaf94b951472a818a34fa5b72d6e3b56ad0188f5cb31c484ffdcaad04&

[dawn cloak]

Hmm both good hmmm
Nanami at what? SS0 too?

[orchid owl]

what about @buoyant hornet @normal sierra do you have yt channel?

[dawn cloak]

Citrom gonna sub to them all

[crystal rune]

henry unlists all of his clips

catnips

[orchid owl]

oh right henry joe

[normal sierra]

I have, but my pgr vids are not listed

[orchid owl]

mentioning in desc

[clever gulch]

yeah, my only SS3 char is oblivion

[orchid owl]

speaking of
what is your yt

[normal sierra]

if you want my ppc sheet, here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PrsoYJc6qIqrLWIY6EDu81yLhdIlrgCER8G2zPjbDyc/edit?usp=sharing

[plain oyster]

Randall tell ur yt

[carmine reef]

Henry joe promo

[dawn cloak]

Btw @crystal rune which do u think?
All are SS0
Im confused who SS cub better first

[dawn cloak]

I dont have lol

[crystal rune]

who knows

catnips

[dawn cloak]

Zexous have

[orchid owl]

ok you are going in there without channel mention still

[dawn cloak]

NO

[crystal rune]

type his full discord name

[dawn cloak]

What?

What mention lol

[steady otter]

so um

both 0 hp

[orchid owl]

ppc

[normal sierra]

wait, wut mention? where?

[orchid owl]

I'm uploading vidya

[dawn cloak]

[crystal rune]

catnips

[normal sierra]

[primal parrot]

should i get veronica or save up for an upcoming attacker?

[carmine reef]

How would you be getting veronica, standard check?

[normal sierra]

damn, those people clicking on my yt profile and not seeing any pgr vids will love it

[primal parrot]

no, but when she becomes available on the normal banner

[orchid owl]

the true fans will know

[carmine reef]

So yes standard check

[primal parrot]

i see, yeah

[carmine reef]

Yeah thats fine

[dawn cloak]

Ngl Im confused. But Im biased and will say SS Nanami cub
Sorry dont have much experience on it
Cant answered it objectively

[primal parrot]

i thought standard was the blue tickets, i forgot

[dawn cloak]

Maybe Zexous knows

[carmine reef]

It is

What are you talking about

Now we're both confused

[crystal rune]

WorryDetective

[dawn cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1071881467451416697/1030852148004663346.gif

[nova forum]

ugh

[primal parrot]

i meant the yellow ticket one

[carmine reef]

Veronica's debut banner already passed, if you get her with yellow tix it will have to be from arrival banner, which is cursed

And yellow tix should be conserved for new units

[primal parrot]

that the 70% one, right? also, is she a must have?

[carmine reef]

Yes its 70%, i dont recommend it

[primal parrot]

i got 5k of those yellows and 5k on bc

[carmine reef]

If you have sss alisa you can do without veronica
Otherwise must have

But just get her from standard

You are too broke to be backpulling

[primal parrot]

well, i used my standard for bianca lol, since I'm a returnee and had enough for her

[carmine reef]

Doomed

[primal parrot]

ig I'm saving up for an upcoming attacker then

[carmine reef]

You'll just have to cope with alisa then

[primal parrot]

I don't really mind missing out on a support, i do mind if i miss out on an attacker

[carmine reef]

That's not really how it works in this game

The supports are very often more important than the attackers

Bianca was definitely not as important as veronica

But what's done is done

[primal parrot]

I'm aware, i also mind missing out on tanks, but with amps then they're not really as important as the other two for me

[primal parrot]

how come?

[normal sierra]

amps on the sideline

midanca is the middest char you can get if you only get her ss rank

[carmine reef]

All an attacker can do is damage
If they don't do giga damage they suck
Ss bianca cant even outdamage lilith who is voucherable

Amps and tanks both deal damage and also function for many other purposes to serve the team

[primal parrot]

damn, really? but I don't really mind since I'm tired of lilith carrying my dark team

[carmine reef]

Like i said, whats done is done

But going forward you should know attacker is very often the least critical role

Especially at lower invest

[primal parrot]

i think i started on either the pyroath and startrailer debut, so I don't have lamia, and stopped playing when i got pianissimo

[primal parrot]

I'll keep that in mind

i got all the constructs from the start trailer upd up to pianissimo, I'm kinda new

[carmine reef]

Anyway phys desperately needs its amp even more than other elements bc of the crit mechanjc

So you will need to cope with a low rank alisa in the meantime

Until whenever a reasonable opportunity to grab veronica appears, which i cannot imagine will be anytime soon

[primal parrot]

yeah, my Alisa is only ss and has her sig

[carmine reef]

Well at least that's better than nothing

[nova forum]

bruh wat is this wz

[carmine reef]

Welcome to the worst timeline

[dawn cloak]

Bro is entering on sunday?

[nova forum]

i'm washed

[orchid owl]

same invest? or SSS lilith vs SS bianca

[dawn cloak]

Reminder

[nova forum]

that has been my schedule for the past few months

speedrun sht on sunday, while ppc on 3 hours before reset

[dawn cloak]

But Legend retain right?

[nova forum]

surprisingly ye

[carmine reef]

Sss lilith absolutely outdamages ss bianca
Same invest probably bianca wins, but idk either, bianca gets a bigger spike from sss than lilith
Ss3 lilith vs ss0 bianca i am not sure at all

[nova forum]

holy pak i forgot wtf my set up on ignite was

[primal parrot]

is my account good for a lvl 102?

[carmine reef]

It might honestly still be ss lilith vs ss0 bianca, ss bianca is both weak and rigid

I have heard tell of the ss 5 ult shenanigans but dont know how good it is for general use

[dawn cloak]

Need SSS bonca to beat SSS Lilith
Below SSS bonca kinda mid

[primal parrot]

wow, that's new, a new character being ass compared to an older one

[carmine reef]

Unfortunately not new

The past several characters have been really mid

At low invest

[dawn cloak]

Lilith too goated, free and broken
And Kuro somehow kinda regret that
They tried to make Vera so mid
But failed thanks to Rydle

Hence Veronica the scam exist now

So nerfed and rigid

New S Teddy almost become victim too, but we'll see

[nova forum]

what should vero use on dante and knightnami team?

[dawn cloak]

Qte bot set, dv guin
If its 332 Dante Nana Vero

Nuke give ref iirc

[nova forum]

fcccckkkk

i gotta give another ht

[dawn cloak]

Nah dont bother
Its mob zone bro

Just 20 stack guarding, is her job
For the DoT

[carmine reef]

Thats not right

[nova forum]

for 2 memo slots

[dawn cloak]

Was what? Oh still Keats?

[nova forum]

ye

[dawn cloak]

4% edb lost on Vero
Doubt its affect anythinf

[nova forum]

i have HT 4dv and 4guin

it's the 2 slot that's the problem

oh w8

i could just repurpose feral set

[dawn cloak]

Feral dead yes

Ish reign supreme

We need 9 AP ish on ppc now

[normal sierra]

only giga whels need *

[orchid owl]

just delete AP

we can do it in outlier, why not in normal

[dawn cloak]

Dayum

We Vergiling them all then

[orchid owl]

oh yea wouldn't vergil beat SSS lilith?

on ephi

[dawn cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-your-motivation-where's-your-motivation-wheres-your-motivation-vergil-vergil-dmc-gif-4153196228805105292

[orchid owl]

should've tried it

well I still have 2 thumbnails and videos to make so I'll skip

[buoyant hornet]

yeah

[orchid owl]

give

if relevant

[buoyant hornet]

https://youtube.com/@feyernightblade2050?si=7BS4iFOBCvUloor2

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah pgr content usually wz

[deft apex]

plug

[buoyant hornet]

Gotta make my 50 views go up to 51

[deft apex]

livwow

[orchid owl]

ironically you get more views than me but have less subscribers

but I know the reason

[abstract badge]

is Ishmael still worth to pull when i have SSSlilith and SSSwanshi as Luna's support? what is Luna's better support than these teams?

[orchid owl]

you got it backwards: ishmael is not a support, lilith and wanshi are

for the nihil team at least

best nihil team you can look at is luna, ishmael, vera/watanabe

vera better if ishmael is triple S
if watanabe is triple S, he is better than vera

[abstract badge]

oh yeah, forgor she has a bisexual combat role

[orchid owl]

if same invest for all 3 then it depends on content

[graceful summit]

Bisexual.

[orchid owl]

I think you are referring to her copying either the amplifier/tank that is not in a team

which has little to do with her actual strength

[nova forum]

[orchid owl]

although dps ishmael is preferred to be tank

[nova forum]

ugh

[orchid owl]

correct me if I'm wrong

[nova forum]

i think i need 9ap ishmael for this ppc

[orchid owl]

not 9 ap again

[sour silo]

Depends on investments🌝

[abstract badge]

can u cook a team comp for my nihil team? these are my characters and almost all had their signature weapon

[orchid owl]

yeah then what I mentioned earlier

[orchid owl]

send the link instead of a screenshot

[orchid owl]

oblivion, startrail, geiravor if they all have sigs

I'd say

[abstract badge]

link of what?

[orchid owl]

link of your huaxu

what else

[nova forum]

can i use df for ephia or is it too slow

[abstract badge]

my OF?

[orchid owl]

who's interested in that nonsense

[abstract badge]

can u search my Uid ?

[orchid owl]

I'm already subscribed to monthly pass

[nova forum]

[orchid owl]

can't

[abstract badge]

13916545

[orchid owl]

need a server

[abstract badge]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/13916545/characters

[orchid owl]

[orchid owl]

this is wrong btw

SS livpidity for context

the correct memos are 4 heisen not 4 natasha

[abstract badge]

what

really?

i watch spider2b for guides

[orchid owl]

there's the problem

as long as you are a casual spider2b is ok

but this is #📨・meta-help

it's like 2 different worlds

[abstract badge]

ohhhh, so numerically that meta help is better to follow than any ytber?

[orchid owl]

pretty much

youtube is only for war zone/phantom pain cage runs

not invest guides and such

because every player has different case scenarios

[orchid owl]

they can only give you a general idea

[pine slate]

Guide to brick

[nova forum]

guide to stay bricked up pls

[abstract badge]

i see

f, i been following yt guides for years now

[nova forum]

eh

[noble zinc]

Follow ching chong guides better

[abstract badge]

so that's why sometimes when i see similar characters and investment they still have higher score than mine

[nova forum]

thing is

[orchid owl]

that's

1. skill
2. proper builds with min-maxing

[abstract badge]

I'm pretty i have above average skills in terms of rotation

[nova forum]

the mainstream vids are most likely going to be wrong cuz they're produced faster than the dalaos could find the optimal build and gameplay rotation

[abstract badge]

so i should just follow the pinned meta build here?

[nova forum]

if it's for new characters btw

[nova forum]

ye

[abstract badge]

aight, time to unbrick my account

[nova forum]

just be warned future units are going to have this problem

[abstract badge]

what problem

[nova forum]

took like 5 days for lim build to be concrete

[verbal forge]

how many waves for 10m in hero
-# is it time to learn SP delay?

[nova forum]

mf using hax

[abstract badge]

what's SP?

skill points?

[abstract badge]

also what's 9 ap?

[nova forum]

9 chance of using a character for ppc

[abstract badge]

why?

is 3 not Enough?

[nova forum]

sometimes no

[noble zinc]

Gotta fight for pvp

[buoyant hornet]

Not necessarily but if the tank vs. amp options are equivalent in value then yeah

[verbal forge]

Its an ability to spam one 3 ping before an ultimate for faster rot

[abstract badge]

what do you guys think this kind of account investment should be scoring on ppc and rank of warzone?

[nova forum]

bro

tb with ish

and ephi with this

9ap needed

[limber yoke]

welcome to the club

just take +1s onn knight

[nova forum]

i take +1s on all stage

[orchid owl]

depends on war zone rank

and of course the zone itself + weather

generally speaking I think you should be able to hit at least a total of 15 million for the most part

• or - 5 million with what your rank is and what zones are like

[pallid cypress]

im F2P

should i go for SS3?

or save for teddy weapon?

[raw swift]

pls help what's wrong with my Selena team

[cobalt plover]

Is wave 55 still the limit?

Lol

[verbal forge]

Selena is 4 burana 4 cottie

Patton is for ppc

[cobalt plover]

if you post the clip or something it would be better to see
also echo is on wrong build
she is 4 signa

phys needs the crit rate

[pallid cypress]

regarding liv SS3

is it a good idea to go for it as a F2P?

[raw swift]

I fall for it EVERYTIME T-T

[verbal forge]

Well no one follows this

In ingame

[raw swift]

arigatoo, might do if things don't get better XD

[cobalt plover]

it wont get better if you dont have it

[raw swift]

liv is still natasha and cottie right??

[cobalt plover]

the crit rate is necessary lol

phys sucks without it

[verbal forge]

If shes SSS+ yes

[raw swift]

else?

[verbal forge]

If not, look at pins
#📨・meta-help message

[raw swift]

thank uuu

[deft apex]

Might move current patch builds to faq

[verbal forge]

That would be nice

And leave the older patch builds too

The bianca and vero

[young badge]

that for 3s phys comp

[pallid cypress]

@deft apex @verbal forge is it a good idea to go for SS3 liv?

[young badge]

yes

[verbal forge]

Do you hold all other meta characters?

[pallid cypress]

yep

[barren plank]

Yes, but make sure you have enough to secure future characters and gear first

[verbal forge]

And their sig too?

[pallid cypress]

with sig and everything

[raw swift]

question: can she Solo cuz Hanying isn't SS and the 3rd girl is on life support

[pallid cypress]

except daren and feral

but feral is getting powercrept next patch so little to no reason to get the signature

[verbal forge]

No need you use ish anyway

[pallid cypress]

yeah

i do that

[carmine reef]

and daren is getting powercrept in 10 years

[verbal forge]

Best to not worry/mald about it too much, you can in fact try but you're going to run out of orbs

[raw swift]

even this?

[young badge]

yes

[raw swift]

T-T

should I give DLT to Hanying too? (She's S2 only)

[young badge]

get ss first

[raw swift]

okay, thank uu

I'll try now and see

[carmine reef]

if you have veronica no need to dlt hanying since you can just do hanying 1 rot

i see that you posted alisa, not sure if that means no vero at all

[pallid cypress]

well i have 12k BC and 6k tickets

[raw swift]

playable Veronica has no aura (compared to boss version) so I didn't pull her

[carmine reef]

well then suffer the consequences of your decisions i guess

you'd need dlt hanying for the team rotation to be viable but it would feel really bad to be putting dlt on hanying at this point in her lifespan

[pallid cypress]

@verbal forge can i recover this funds?

or teddy weapon will require BC?

[deft apex]

Unless she's the new scire

[carmine reef]

i mean

putting dlt on scire also would feel bad at this point in her lifespan

so...

[verbal forge]

All free read pins

[carmine reef]

current scire just means "literally not used in wz cause she's so bad that off-ele tanks are better"

[pallid cypress]

uhhh nice

so yeah, i have every single meta character with signature and R1 to 3

Vera is my R3 and she flat out is better than pyroath outside of plasma

@verbal forge so do the 50 pulls?

my pity in phylothree is at 10

[raw swift]

progress is progress boys XD

[verbal forge]

SS is enough SS3 is the best value so if you want her go for it

[pallid cypress]

kinda feel her damage is not up to snuff, SS3 is when i can use her signature memory set right?

[verbal forge]

No

[solid kraken]

does radiance have a team?

[verbal forge]

Its at SSS+

[solid kraken]

ppc

[pallid cypress]

but SS3 helps right?

with more damage and smoother rotation

[verbal forge]

Yes it does, specially her qte

[solid kraken]

also, does plasma have a higher buff than lightning like in warzone?

[upbeat orchid]

I know #7th place in my Warzone group plans to take my #6th spot at the last moment but I can't prove it

[verbal forge]

You can go Bianca feral/lilith(plasma rot) nanami
The normal lighting or plasma team

Tho lighting showed good results

[limber yoke]

if high invest yes

[young badge]

yes im coming

[verbal forge]

Natasha not bad at 3s
-# i was too lazy to switch heisen core to sig

[dawn cloak]

iirc theres ppc info on pins
Which include what the actual number from weather buffs

I remember glacio was only 8% buff on IB

[deft apex]

It's the same text as it shows in game

If the number is not there then idk what it is

[wispy valley]

does anyone have ss3 selena wz rot

[fresh plover]

guys what's the big spreadsheet with teams again

[carmine reef]

my sheet is in pins way far back

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?usp=sharing

[young badge]

use burn

[verbal forge]

I suck at ignition

[young badge]

333 burn spam 1hp mobs

[verbal forge]

I don't have 333 burn

[noble zinc]

Me 2

[young badge]

me 3

[verbal forge]

[noble zinc]

Pak you 3s nana

🐳

[young badge]

wut no