#📨・meta-help
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I was using the free tickets on fate banners and got a pyroath from arrival one 
Is this a decent power for beginner?
3 reso cw in the beeg almost 2026 
She's still below mediocre even for beginners
He already got Liv btw
In general help
how big is the difference between ss0 liv and ss3 liv ..?
Good enough
bigger than biggest cyrene fan
One of the best ss3 upgrade amongst the S rank character
omg
:true:
@carmine roost can you see if i have a decent characters
Oh okie
Hi I’m dinner
In score it was 6.5m SS0 Liv and 9m SS3 Liv
Go for it if you got the moneh
May become bigger once new gen lightning amp comes
Was that even the same invest
Isnt that just SS0 vs SS3 Liv? 
I assume sufficient reso, 222 212 lightning should get way more than 6.5m bro, especially if it was the boss zone we got at the first week
2.322 212 for 9m looks normal
@noble zinc is this true?
Idk where is it from
2.32.33 is like 9.7
Also bro is malding 
https://youtu.be/2K6bcY7ZuE0?si=1LhM6YcEyNhvslP6
#punishinggrayraven #dante #dmc #pgrwarzone #pgrgameplay #legendwarzone #pgr #pgr_cn #burn
SS3 Liv in legend is certainly going to get Way more than SS3 Liv in hero man
Well, we need to be free from this mobs zone first 
Nonetheless
Thats SS3 in hero tho?
And SS0 in Legend
But yeah, cant do shiet in this mobs zone 
Surely next week lightning zone boss
Hero score vs legend score for any rank comparison is just not viable, it only shows unfairness from how one invest would have advantage/disadvantage from how thick/soft enemies hp are for score gain
222 in hero is like 6.8
I'm just gonna pray no phys zone
Not feeling any phys anymore
Ah ye not to far. I was saying 6.5m
Slash boss doe 
If 3 mobs again then I’ll kiwi
That's a sign for you to kiwi for good fr fr 
trueslash/glacio
I actually need to learn Glacio
We only has boss Glacio once and probably never again until the end of 2026
I was too busy with Liv to bother trying

But cant, glacio is cursed to only appear 1x per patch
Unless they wanna break the curse now
(X) doubt
Just watch darkflow become the new glacio
Rare af in warzone
Dakrflow already have no uppc
fire dark ts/glacio all boss sounds good 
But still a boss zone
RIP
Thats once in a lifetime, surely 
They should have been smoking fine sht in the office if that ever happens 
For glb like 1890w something for glb
It was during mobs zone
I think?
Idk I forgot
He forgor
I think the elites before it was 1870
And then nuke on tje fat mobs zone got 1890w or smth
1870 is on the first faiya zone after wata leap?

Wdym fat mobs
The mobs zone with royal guards
Are we getting fat mobs now or the Twink one
Only royal guards count?
Musashi too maybe. Dunno
Theres like, 3 variations of mobs zone iirc
wait wrong one
@noble zinc 43.33 with Dante Wata Vero
#punishinggrayraven #dante #dmc #pgrwarzone #pgrgameplay #legendwarzone #pgr #pgr_cn #burn
Phys got black balls, mercenaries
Ice got royal guards and Doritos
Light for royal guards and Doritos
He gave up halfway 
Reasonable response
Have a good day
Theres this also https://youtu.be/EXH8IMX6Z3k?si=vO00N6_8ufd6gPK-
Thumbnail image via @DOOMGUYBOT's video - "Metroman Arm Swing Dance but it's Dante [Devil May Cry]" (https://youtu.be/CErkDZW1Nno)
367.5 fluctuation
30% fire; 40% ignition
refresh multiple normal and elite enemies
sss dante - 4 shakes 4 cot (atk/ult) - dlt - s cub
sss3 watanabe - 4 sig 4 dv (red/class) - domain, incan - ss cub
ss3 veronic...
Perfect with a reminder
Unc is still viable :' )
S+ Dante: 4 Shakes 4 Cottie | DLT GA IC | 3S cub
3S Veronica: 4 Guine 4 Cottie | GS SAR DLT | S cub
3S Watanabe: 4 Alph 4 DV | DD RE | S cub
Same rot applies to 333
We had 3 boss weeks for burn in a single month before, didn't even bother to learn cuz irl stuff
Fck this game truly
Huh donte
Wut if vera vero nana

Wave 47 hit 15close prob

play beter
Im in hero anyway w56+ maybie
But mobs in eu on hero is veri low light w64 was 1.13m
Wdym 1.13m
Was that elite lulw
11.3m innit
winnable? idk how much more I can increase phys and ice
333 team
Wave 64 and just 11.3 yeah
whats ur ice inv
232.3 112 ish amp
Very 
4m legend is 222 score lol
A lot of room
Yes

Just watch one nuke video and your score will improve fr fr
Also that phys is just as sad
I watch but didn't improve
Can't improve perfection
I also watch but didn’t improve
I also
Im incompete where the hax happening
"Inkompetens" in my lang
Meaning not had the skill or the knowladge to do it
Incompetent
Incompetence
Nah that's different, that just clueless/uninformed

Incompetent is when you're capable to, but you're not able to do it as you will/when it's needed
Basically mostly done it by luck and rarely done with skills
Or you're entirely capable, but just lazy asf even if it's urgent
very me
Yeah but my wierd lang its means what i said
Truly
World is weird
U can easily get at least like 5M ice score
We shouldn't have built that damn tower to the sky smh
5.6M if you mald
Upload run pls lao
~~ do a self plug here ~~ 
My ice run is sht nuke got like 300K higher in like 20 mins
I need to try and recreate it from scratch
And then mald more to improve it
But Im afraid to mald now
I have one active and one potential competitor vying for 2nd place
So Im afraid Im gonna get sniped if I mald now
Later tonight I will try my hand
It's mobs zone
One retain isn't worth of whatever it takes for you to retain with malding mobs zone

I will stop when I retain

Get SSS+
You'll retain 
I have no choice
Im not a nepo baby
@crystal rune 
Then good luck with mobs
Ask xeno
Xeno kiwi long ago breh
Rosetta
potential sugadadi

Ônly 220k currency
rc?
Bc and rnd
@spiral merlin you are right playing with controller is so smooth
I might make the switch on all my gacha games if they support it
Do you play wuwa or any similar open world games on controller
wuwa im mixed controller or kbm
mostly controller
but if im too lazy ill just stick with kbm
Ahh alright I might be the same
wuwa does play very well with controller though
i have a similar setup to pgr
so its pretty easy to switch mindsets
Join the mechanical keyboard gaming gang
Yeah that’s why I’m asking I think I’ll set it up like pgr
I do have one but I guess I’m still in love with controller 
Could have been 20s I guess
Does ss3 Selena do 6 white > hold dodge > flower on first then hold dodge > orchestra on second for phys wz?
Yee
doesn't seem like a rotation problem then, probably messing up qtes or I'm just slow in general

This sht ain't worth malding I think
I am gonna get destroyed by the sss+ guy lurking at the bottom on the last day anyway
3 vero?
you mean my invest?
yeah it's vero
Let's just hope I won't get sniped by the guy below
leg?
ye
that han bp sus
you make do with what you have 
why the phys so low tho
I mean, I checked other line ups in eu top 100 out of curiousity. There isn't really anyone that got higher than me with same invest. Maybe Eu just sucks as a whole.
There are like 2 people with basically just 3s Vergil instead of my ss3 selena that got to 5m tho
me similar inv that in hero got 7.5 taps
Vergil beating Selena dayum what
maybe vergil is just better on mob zone idk
Someone mald my wz
Stop playing wwm
it might just be eu legend is cooked as whole in general. there isn't really anyone that got 5m with ss3 selena except maybe 1-2 people. or the good players haven't played yet.

Sss vero
sss vero better then pulling liv

Ngl for physical if u want to sss vero need sss hanying to balance shet 
Heck just full 333
Me when
And they decided to pak bero by massive nerf in physical might as well just delete physical 
New phys tank or hanying leap will save it trust
If you have ss3 limpidity and ss3 Startrail, do you swap between the two with their respective rotations or do you just repeat the long rotation on Limpidity forever?
Swap
Iirc solo is if Liv is just significantly higher invest than Nana (someone fact check me on that tho plz)
Okay 
8 more days 
got 506w I ain't malding any further pak mob zones 

@young badge booked cab some other cab came picked me cancelled old one i did
Where me goin now
Don't know
go slep
No
If you wont slep can I stream and you can roast my phys wz

wait u in new cab rn?

Yea so costly my monthly+ bp -1 patch 
pak whel
hmm
qu fred wan cjw ted dv

Life boring
@crystal rune if you see this message, we apologize for the warning, it was for someone else.
Selena emote is a nope
What selena emote

Other stuff don't dig

STOP
Does SS3 skill for Vero do anything for igni team? 
Wut abt doromael plap
not really digging, just a coincidence that nergi was warned at the same time as sending that emote
oh well
buffs igni
Only the 10% buff right?

10% ingition damage heal buff + base damage of yellow orb in ult mode double
Depends of context
It's decently good but not worth going out your way for
Unless you really care ab ignition for some reason
Alright 
too many terms I really can’t keep up
Base damage of tap and hold yellow in ult form doubles is all that means essentially
Maybe 
Your name is familiar
I rember you name so dark couldn't even see
With discord dark mode
Mom get the camera I’m getting famous
164A50E pls join i beg you
Mycledra EOSed
hows the airport been going on btw gin

what, you want me dead?
Probably were in same guild and we traded some rot ideas then I quitted 

I thought you kiwitted playing
Yomm alway has been around
Liv limp ss3 build?
Still Heisen Cot
no i didnt, just kiwi xeno
Same build
LMAO mod deferred to pins
thats why ur a mod
Ult is for SSS and above
I don't want to ss3 every character
on the bright side, her ss0 is like 100k above 3s cw
well she scores higher regardless

that bright kinda dim but ehh
Am missing my pillow
theres only so much comfort this terrible game can bring us now
Hi bombs
I might have sent 1 dora plap 
Oh
on the bright side, im not making them anymore, so you dont have to worry about people sending them in here
U gotta be wary of the context in the future


Ill delete 
i swear someone from ls is gonna end up sending very sus gifs
Oh from ls
I thought the server
Cuz we had plenty

So is Liv limp wearing a skirt
if u mean the ishmael, teddy, veronica doro plaps that is
those were edited by me but the ls members spam the hell out of it in here
What score should I get for lightning hero?
222.3(ish) 152 101
I missed 3 sp delays on liv but I got 4.2 mil
Theres more 
Im also doing 2 full on liv
@noble zinc 
why inv so copium
too broke in bc
what burn inv
SSr2 vera, SSS wata r1, SSr0 vero, SS no sig nana
do u have dentge
poor is poor, and I just try to get sig if I can, also nana playable without sig
welp
Yea it is
Im prolly wrong
SS no sig vero still better than SS Alisa and sig
Now Nuke is going to be like that one overwatch character and get me out of the rubble
double long rot
Bro doesn't have sig for the most important unit in the game smh
No idea abt sigless comps
Zam 
sigless nana 
I have sig
I'm just asking if it needs dlt or not
future reference for myself cus nanamis orbs are weird
#pgr #punishinggrayravenglobal
This rot to be more specific
Its 4 ults too idk where i got 5
Wut full invest
232 110 111
Vera nana veronica
Nana 4 ult vero 2 ult
Cause vero no dlt
Got 8 mil so far with dlt
Legend
Should be more cause thats 222 score

Europe
Basic blay sp management+ult push
Within as much less time possible
Keeping wave progression in mind
you know basic inputs for burn?
Ishmael / vera..which one is suitable as damage dealer? I dont hv any nihil and fire char yet
vera
I just did the rot above idk
Need signature weap?
yes
Need dlt or no?
Nana need dlt

2 rot vero?
Don't need
i mean it 2 rot vero?
2 rot vero don't need dlt
Yea cause i dont have dlt on vero
oh r0
Also wtf orb toggling was that making my runs brick now learning this for nana
wut orb toggling
See that video
2wice need to tap orb for that 3p
Seems we can divide that into parts
oh during the middle

Idk wut you saw
can precast orb toggling?
Sign changes of nana orb
That yea
Before we can do it
Seems as per video I can't play now can't test
imma try
Try
This will make burn so much better for me waa
That delay was super irritating
Never got proper run
ooh
i see
theres a duration after u toggle and can insta 3p
if u hold yellow too long u need to toggle again
but if u hold on right time u can insta 3p
cant precast it
what?
this only works for 3s nana
3p before and after yellow also can
but not until half
maybe like 3/5 of core
2x 3p after toggle
i feel like i seen this in bili
or shameless vid

More bum bald need
Me lazy fk never watched any guides from bili
dont want to but seems need to
I didn't even knew nana orb visual changes

||i wasnt referring to u||
fk whel
Wow Same as my invest?
dlt vero

🐳
who should i SS after liv when i get her (and can ss lilith from voucher) https://huaxu.app/na/players/28600127/characters
Yea there was a bili vid for 232.3
That showed this rot for nana
it's cool that it shows, but... wut are the inputs for doing that? 
instructions unclear, I only see green orbs 
What?
is 2 rot vero or 3 rot vero better for ss0?
3rot vero for ss0 comp
wtf same score, 232.1 vero nana vera?
did they change that, or is it different visuals depending on how much did you tap her orb? because she needs to tap orb twice
based on tap, was always like that
ye still on taps
I gave up in burn did lightn with 2.132.1 
so 3 rot with nana?
what if got -3s
With SSS idk

nana
Wait till next boss what gets you 13+ will be taken in consider
Ref there isn't much with your inv

where u go
Home

Sometimes I sleep like 20hrs straight better that thing happens again
or permanent even better
1 to 10 how much solacetune needs her sig?
Limpidity rot twin... hmu... SS ... can get dlt yo
Double ss rot don't need dlt
alright i wont
Does Liv use dlt?
Whar
Not optimal
considering meta and everything, about 2
atp getting her is very low priority, and if you do get her then you also want her weapon but not particularly high priority since she is an older unit
how much does solacetune needs her weapon : 10/10
how much of a priority is her rn : 2/10
today is pew pew day
pew pew? 
pew pew retain
Double long rot doesn't need dlt
Double short long rot do need dlt
If u already have r1 Liv, it's pretty much preference
If you want to play 2 long, use ga
If you want to play 2 short long do dlt
The difference is yet to be tested, but it's good either way
2 short long rot?
Are the setups in gray ravens website any good or I should I always ask here?
ask here
Just ask here to be safe, GR will either lack nuance at best or just be plain wrong at worst
if u have infinite mats why not
Oh ok
Best memory’s for daemonissa?
Depends, are you building her dps or amp?
For amp
4 dv 4 guin
ss3 r2 vera or sss r0 dante better ignition dps
SSS dante ofc, Vera doesn't even deal ignition dmg
wasnt there a comp of using vera veronica and nanami and it outperformed dante
Vera is qte bot on that team
Don't I already have a usable fire team? I was thinking for a another element for variety but I'm not sure
She's fire main dps, donte is just cope option in that. Getting her also make ur ignition and darkflow team complete
Oh, does dark flow help dark team I just saw a video that said it does dark damage
what's min invest for 600k on gwyn 
Dark dmg =/= darkflow dmg
How unfortunate
Also should I build discord instead of sigmata and Vergil for the physical team?
Sigma probably better than discord, not sure but I'd assume so
Vergil however is pretty yikes
Vergil is good for trueslash though
Stigmata is still s rank tho although I have her weapon but I should also be able get discord weapon for free from the selector
U could test both
Though idk about getting discord sig, last resort u could use it as reso fodder
Might have better picks, idk what sigs u have/not
Incoming what now
Geez




Do we have stats for the total number of players in global and cn? I would be curious to see those

Ig this would do 
Not that there's a public count
Huaxu only do wz/ppc counts
Dunno how many players that actually don't play those modes at all to be the remaining numbers
What are that stats for that? And how do you find them?
Legend Warzone (Level 80 - 120) between 2025-11-24 and 2025-11-30 on the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven. There are 1179 players in this difficulty level.
You can swap between server to see how many players are in Hero/legend or any other tier
I also picked the previous week so we can see the peak players number after the Warzone ends and all of those who remember already joined
So you have to choose every single difficulty level and add them all up?
I mean you can do that yeah
But like I've said, some players still don't play warzone or forget about it that this numbers to be used as a reliable player counts on each server
Also, which servers are technically global?
Asia, na and eu combined
That's the "global" server
JP, TW and KR has their own
Different client and such
Someone took over my #6th Warzone Hero score by a thousand points, so I increased mine by 600K points and I literally can't increase it any further, this is my best, please no one overtake me

they heard your plea
I wish there was a way to add all the wz tiers together, to get a better idea of the active playerbase numbers
No stigmata is too old, no just dont
Vergil SS0 if got 6* sig wp is enough for phys team
Do 2x ult like this
https://youtu.be/AAS1NroK3ms?si=Boi5L9JMJyStZ0r7
You must add up the players from each region (NA/EU/SEA) in WZ: Elite/Leader/Hero/Legend
The last time I did that was like two patches before DMC: 120 K global players and 400K+ CN players iirc
Question.. how good is plasma beam?
old
122 dc, there are almost 100K members in the global group on Facebook
I suppose there are Discord players who don't use Facebook and vice versa
Wdym how good
I use WZ as a reference because I think you need to log in to WZ to be accounted for
Is it worth investing?
Havent seen how it perform
i mean it's not like you can only invest into affix team without investing into base element team
the nature of modern pgr is that every unit is in multiple teams
plasma beam lineup is lucia/nanami/lilith, all of those units are present in multiple teams
so rather than considering investing in a "team", you should be considering your investments in terms of individual units, and the value that individual unit brings to all the teams they are a part of

Long story short, plasma was once the strongest affix team with Lucia’s incredibly high (at the time) ult plasma dmg ratios. Now it struggles to compete against some elemental teams, and it is also not doing great in certain zones (ahem mob zone ahem). It is still a fun team to play, and take some skill/know-how to execute well.
The main problem with Plasma rn is:
- Pyroath’s ratios falling behind newer frames
- Pyroath contributes to the majority of plasma dmg in the team, and the team grinds to a halt when Pyroath is not on-field.
i heard Gaydiance outscores plasma in plasma zone
not sure at what context tho. maybe at high invest
kekw
players with 0 score in wz are not counted on huaxu, even if they logged in and joined a wz bracket
just a fyi 
what if they have 123456789 score
696969 score
they get promoted to the mythical bracket 

Bro spawned in
Fawkin whale
You already invest both Nanami and Lilith by default
What I can say is until you can get Pyroath eventually, you don't really need to build a "plasma team" just yet
If you already have Pyroath and the other 2, it's whatever, you can try the team
The memory sets that's used for the plasma team isn't that different to those respective character memory set anyway
What's plasma
wut mycledra strimming
Igni
just wanted to tell you guys that i moved compiled rotation list and harmo guide sheet from pins to 🖥・faq-section
had to move it because pins are bit messy and some ppl might not coming here often for it :RavenSleep:
Saw, ty
had to inform in both channels because some ppl are not meta slave after all 
Fair
I would rule them out as inactive players
Mob

I saw a video
Title is fire warzone using dante
Plays fire team on Ignition warzone
But dps is Dante
And rotations are non-existent
Uses Darkflow wata


bizti?
copy rydle homework

Bricked
7+
7 aim

what in the
#punishinggrayravenglobal
#devilmaycry5
#virtualdarkpgr
Here see
ss3 pyro slaps
golden brick
Satire run
there's a new-ish code for 100 BC
HAPPY6THBIRTHDAY

I Duuno What's Happening After Like The 4th ULT I Tap 6 Blue Orbs But It Doesn't Give Me Ult
For God KNOWS WHAT REASON
TwT
I'm Trying
He is a mango
Oh cool you also like Will Wight's books? /s
The Basic Nanami -> Lilith ( ULT + Build Gauge ) -> Lucia BA - Red Orbs - BA - Hold ULT + Blue Orb -HA - 1st ULT - HA - BA - 1st ULT - 6 Blue Orbs - 2nd ULT -> Nanami Stuff -> Lilith Stuff -> Lucia Red Orbs + Hold ULT - 1st ULT - HA - BA - 1st Again - 6 Blue Orbs - HA - 1st ULT Again - 6 Blue Orbs - HA - 1st ULT Again - 6 Blue Orbs - HA - ( And This Is Where I'm Supposed To Do The ULT The 5th Time But For Some Reason My ULT Gauge Doesn't Get Full )
ur roach ss3?
SS0 or SS3 this

SSS
SSS Actually
Totally can't understand
wut meant
But feeling says
This not it
We got any one with written inputs among us?
SSS pyro ion

Hold Attack For 2nd ULT
Since 1st ULT Is Free After Spamming Red Orbs
confusing since she hold ults twice
I'm The 1st Rotation Yes
SSS nana you got?
But The 1st Rotation Isn't The Problem It's The 2nd One
I can write but will be mess cuz I'm mess
Unfortunately No
Nanami Doesn't Change Much
Plus SSS Lucia Just Let's Nanami Swap Out Faster
By Using Only One Nanami Rotation
As Far As I Know
I Wanna Do 5 ULT On 2nd Rotation
A different starting rotation as the current waves does not help at all with the breakpoints. Which is better? It depends.
Song used:
メビウス - 柊キライ
https://youtu.be/hunqo6DgjD8?feature=shared
Duality - Montee
https://youtu.be/f14CO4uRnVA?feature=shared
0:00 - Run
4:23 - Builds
I Saw People Do On 2nd Tho
Wait Lemme Check Again
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increase wz duration
Do you still need more time or can I enter now
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He Does It On 2nd Rotation
I Know I'm Only Doing This To Learn The Rotation
@rustic pollen copy pasta should be enough
You go seems I can't
Train moving too much
Don't refer this person.. for meta stuff if possible
Idk wut he doin now maybe changed
Am giving wait
What Copy Pasta
Wait
Where Did Pasta Come From
: D
Empress guide better for ion rotation
I mean we can just copy good players
I'm Not Really Into Warzone That Much Just Trying To Learn This So I Can Tease Somebody

Ion rots arent that fixed
I know but just as a reference she's good enough
Empress does rotaiton guides for all invest
And they are right
usually
@rustic pollen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ite2VJgMQ&t=52s
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00:00 ss0 fire opening
00:20 ss0 repeat rot
00:50 ss0 flux opening
01:21 ss0 flux repeat rot
01:58 ss3 or higher basic rot
02:31 ss3 or higher flux opening
03...
Theres another empress?
Yea follow this one
for 5 slash should do for you
Ooooo
That One Looks Neat
@barren plank why your simu coin 1 tho
Poor
I Have Like 900k Or Something
Mostly Coz I've Just Started Building My Chars
Wait btw why incan for vero
doesn't she want triple rot?
Cuz you 2 rot














