#📨・meta-help
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double full is better than afterglow in WZ too
Omg I've been playing her wrong then
you sure have
dw i was late with that too
I do fast ult full ult at SSS
oh well sss is different but you're still doing it wrong
Ahahaha

What's SSS?
in fact it's even worse to know that you're sss because you're using none of its potential
That's how I learnt when she debuted
at sss the rotation is completely different
sss qukra is 3 rotation
It always changes at SSS
you get 2 inscriptions then immediately dodge cancel, then you do hold ba (the somersault move you never use at ss), then immediately cancel that with 3p, then do hold ba or hold dodge (doesn't matter but usually hold ba) to get into ult and then do 1x3p ult
I'm probably doing ally rotations wrong then
and you do that 3 times
Great 😭 that's so different
I need a visual guide lol
That's a whole something
here @noble zinc all memories and resos
and vid of shakes run
damn that sure is a whole lot of words
I just learnt SSS Lucia too 😭
need r3 and 3s pet 
PGR looks so good in 60fps😭
r3 maybe
the reference vid only has SS cub which I have
and you think inca can take those 3 bars?
Okay but with this rotation, how good is it dmg wise
I have a full SSS Ice team
compared to what you were doing before? probably like 2.5x as much lmao
maybe
well then 9s tb it is
Dayum 😭 okay thanks lol
Ye seems old gen amp not enough
New gen to change
That's worth learning
unfortunately I need vera for gwyn
Even tho Teddy is soon ig
I need her for
ephi
teddy will solve this problem for the future
luna needs R2 for 8/8/9 right? 
One i did with sss6 low invest no idea
well I'm out of time
I'll spend some more time on weekend and figure it out
I could put a reso on luna but dunno if she will be replaced
Wow I feel the difference already 😭 ty bro
Why solo liv giving better progression than burn wtf 
4 heisen 4 cottie
Cottie goes bottom or up?
stonks 🙏
anything to change for wz electro?
Nah, you're good to go
Liv
Yes
Nah, you'll have like 3 secs of downtime before you can swap
dlt would've sold that problem by letting you 3 ult with liv
Th is sp delay
all yours dont like liv
Doesn't it make downtime window even bigger tho?
You can fit stuff within amp buff
it's just better
Faster swaps too
Cuz you switching out from liv early
Just better
better for anything but your fingers
Skin tissue
What memory’s recommend me getting her?
4 cottie 4 heisen
4 Heisen 4 Cottie
done for the week
btw i m not getting more than 8 mil on liv team
how do i get above 10 mil?
333?
Sp delay can?
tf is that?
cuz she's the most valuable sss for me
mid attackers don't deserve any consideration 
what is SP delay?
https://youtu.be/g4CHYHM_1Mg?si=TZKuPh4P0AzoRF_D copy pasta do diff isn't super big
#punishinggrayraven #liv #limpidity #legendwarzone #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone #nanami #startrail #ishmael #lightwarzone
#pgr_cn
Wait
I can't get sss nana ||cuz I already have it
||
also i m on hero
no
i m running heisen cottie
It's class skill just
that guy is using heisen herschell
It's classic tho for swap
when did nana ever use heisen cottie? 
ppc
ok, but you guys talk about wz lul
what is the rotation that guy is using?
for the first rot after swap
hold dodge -> ult 1 -> 3 ping blu -> then what?
how to sp delay????
Best memories for luna?
u have 333 burn team?
they said sp delay in lightning
i mean u have 333 burn? i asking
only wata is SSS
Pyroath might become SSS on next free banner where she is selectable
vera is ss3
is that the one with veronica?
yea
no
nana vero vera
ok nvm
nice pfp
It is just 3 pings before quickly Ult and trick the game into thinking you use 3 pings after so u'll still get energy after Ult
It's a bug
Sp delay
@muted zenith
Energy transfer for next rot
Reduces overall roations time
3p+ult
Idk how things on pc but I need to 3p before then ult click
Im going to eat nuke
Fast enough that it works
Like, no indicator
Just fast enough for it to work
As close to simultaneously as possible
wtfruit, does liv ever get out of orbs when solo? 
If doing sp delay solo run yes
normal 3p hold dodge ult can then it's fine
Once or twice I think it was just need to do
Orb regen varies with enmy hits as well so
Even ss0 with dlt is able to do 4 long rot already without needing sp delay if you never want to swap
Her orb regen is just that insane
The moment matrix is up for the 4th rot, you'll have enough orb just for one long rot
Same thing on pc
Wait until 3p is available and then do 3p and ult
How the hell did Feral becoming my most deployed Chara
Also what's this 
Are they telling me it's DDD already?
I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I HATE PHYS SO MUCH I CANT TAKE TS ANYMORE I WANT TO DIE PLEASE KILL ME
:broke:
Just play burn nya 
One tap and sleep
Burn is also cancer
Im on low battery, when I come home I can stream
she's ready for some bebe time
All of them
Do it
nah 
easily slaps tb
Hooray!
2nd hottest male in pgr is good enough, though selena should've been there
Unfortunate

My luckiest was 33
damn
1603 days on pgr though 
😔
Im home now I can stream
Sorry I can't really stream
I'm using data rn
Oh rip
Should I R1 my Luna or R2 an amp
how good is lucia ss3 just got a dupe from free ticket
decent
r3 vera and lilith 
I'm gonna remove your t letter
The gen 3 unit with the highest chance to be powercrept

SS Aegis or start investing in Geiravor
Geiravor is more important
Aegis is kinda bad at phys, the one thing she's good on is ignition but you don't need to care about affixes for now
Geiravor on the other hand is fire main dps
lucia got trown out I guess-
owhhh, welp time to start investing
Wrong chat 

I meant the message i deleted 
Yes I see what you deleted
gg washed helper

Hey whose ss3 should I get from the anniversary banner (all characters are SS)
First, did you have all the characters you need?
Yes i have all meta characters
Then for ss3 I'd say just get Liv's from the debut banner
If it have to be from anniversary either nanami or selena
It's not worth it to backpull on anni banner anyways
Unless ur willing to mega whel
Why I got banana you got doggo
Is anyone free at all to backseat my wz
oh hey I got capybara too
You have to remember that vera main dps is a glb invention
From Rydlao ye
That's not how kuro intended it to be so theres no real reason to confidently assume lucia is on the way out
Because in kuro's mind lucia is main dps
Its just gonna happen
Fire Attacker isnt beating the fast powercrept allegation
I'm confident with this take
Hero
You have no reason to be confident in it 
Is any dalao avaliable to backseat my wz Im desperate
Who tf even is that character
Discord
Ah
Pyro will die before Vera, or even Wata
Please 
Zexlao could do it 
it's an endless loop of demotions and retains
Is okay, u good man
Eu server i see

This game is Kurover
eos yesterday
What's bottom memory reso for Liv Limpidity?
Attacker class
Depends on your rank. 2S3 and below 6x core passive; 3S and above 6x ult

Nukelao a feesh now
Reminds me of that 1 video with QTE reso Pyroath for fire wz with 2.333 invest
Was that aether video 
What score do have rn
If u has el donate I can do burn
Today is like my last day anyway

No I just mean I can stream and u can tell me what to fix cause my phys is rough
I can show burn too but I think I only need good rng
Phys is the one that needs fixing but I suck+zone sucks
What team
Aegis Nana Wata 22.13 322
What are your invests
oh same invest
😭
Phys is 22.12 323

I only have high resos not ranks
Ive scrapped nearly all of my spare weapons for all these resos
Me only played 2s and 3s3 and 4s selena
@barren plank hero or leg
Leg
You out me goin in
Wait u dont have to mald
omaigawd dalao pls teach me
I can just stream and u can tell me what to fix
Very specific 
Am not teacher my own roations are never fixed
Try this try that
That's how it goes
Vauge guesses
Alright then go for it
truly #cnmindset
Nukelao a vibe malder
honestly same
You are welcome to try the other zones
pls teach 
But not needed
I think I can get higher burn score but that just depends in rng
And praying Veronica and Nana dont fcking split the mobs
Bum be bum just better not bother
how much u got
7.4M rn

Wait that's good?

yes
No Im not I had no clue what I was doing
I had a lot of help and coaching from Almond and Fenrear
wutf r3 vero

Fcking
fack
faking
shi t
I had her at R2, but triple rot is much higher score
So R3 for DLT
works
Burn?
Yes

Holy nana trash
me 3s nana only 8.9 so that gud
Bruda ss3 dante beating that on 111 resos
It is navily 7.5
if that's sht what about my 6m 2.12.12 
2s3 vero
7.7
There's an 8.3m for 2.332 112 dante wata vero
My Aegis SS0
Why are u not sleeping
I feel like I could get like 7.8-8M if Nana and Veronica could always actually hit the mobs at once
iits dante weather
Ômg it’s faiyah gawd rydle
im just gonna crash at 10

Krill issue
Rydlao 
says the guy in hero 

@barren plank red reso for glacio
Shakes Vera your specialty smh
so washed to the point your one tap outscores my mald
Idk Im kinda poor rn
pls teach how to be washed like that
I can't outscore anyone smh
so washed i cant even 1.85m ppc this week
I need help...
It’s mob zone it sucks, don’t be so hard yourself lao 

How to defeat mui goku?
quit
11.3 on a single zone 
im a washed up player thats what i am

Are you still malding ignition? Why no phy score yet
I said I was just gonna do IB this week
Is lucia ss3 worth getting, im currently at ss
No
I have like one person for each zone
And im finished with IB so now I’m just logging in for dailies
Just retain, no plan for wz high score this week? honestly understandable mob zone is shit
Theres better SS3, like Nanami 
Or Liv limp

pls do my ib
dalao
No
Esports bannable
I still can't get over how awkward her smile is
Who should be my main dmg dealer for ignition wz here in using
Sss3 Vera
Sss Veronica
Sss3 nanami
Veronica nanami dual dps
Ok thank you
Damn must be nice
Really need that red reso wtf paking brick score
Nice play, but you need to work on your skill, movement speed, switch, signal orbs, QTE, matrix, direction, 3-orbs ping, dodging, positioning, red orbs, ultimate move, orbs management, left strafe, basic attack, buff, leader skill, your aim, right strafe, timing, orbs RNG, dashing, switch duration, environment, elemental resist, QTE cooldown, team combination, finger positioning, reaction speed, memories effect, mobs gathering, matrix cooldown, debuff, blue orbs, orbs combo, skill cooldown, buff timing, wave timing, perception, career, targetting, damage reduction, attack speed, your camera POV, stun abilities, Sniping mode, defense shred, healing, ultimate damage, physical resistance,melee attack, enemies trajectory, parry abilities, AoE attack, yellow orbs, back strafe, skill combo, sound cue, super armor, debuff duration, elemental damage, knockback, pets, physical damage, ultimate duration, swoop-in attack, core passive duration, walking distance, strategy, ranged attack, mob spawn, enemies dispersing, core passive, skill duration, enemies marking, i-frame, dashing attack, bleeding, switch layout, hand-eye coordination, combo count, enemies move, damage percentage, planning, coating, intelligence, class skill, single-target attack, core passive cooldown, dodging distance, visual cue, damage overtime, back-up planning, elemental variation, bleeding, boss weakness, the meta, QTE duration, enemies signal, retreating, camera sensitivity, IQ level, mind-mapping, feet positioning, frame rate, tapping speed, finger movement, distancing, orb positions, button mapping, walking angle, QTE timing, orbs calculation, burning ground, Ice mode, Da vinci cooldown, spawn RNG, basic attack combo, passive skill, resonance skill, playing field, critical RNG, prediction level, matrix duration, patience, aiming mode, switch cooldown, your life, QTE positioning, switch in skill, focus. But overall, a pretty good run.

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@crystal rune sss vero over sss Dante for ignition right?
Damn
Well should have expected collab units not to be meta for too long
Wut zaza
Vero vera dante isnt real
Dante Vero Wata
It is
No Vera
No shred
Is it the highest scoring
Wata tank
What the 3s wata doing at home bro
It depends
What if I’m ass
Then team is not the issue
U have SSS Veronica, Dante should not be in the team at all
I mean which one is less maldy
The zaza team I mentioned works especially well with the current mob zone
Dante vero
13.5 one tap 333
Dante Vero Wata
I like how the "updated" teams image is still batting ss0 vero as the new dps with no dante in the image at all even when at low inv dante has consistently outperformed vero nana
Damn there’s no guide on yt for sss Dante vero and wata
The rotation doesn't change
3 rot vero
2 rot dante
2 vero if sss wata
I had brought this up with my co editors
What? Wata rotates?
My wata is sss6
No 3 vero is too long on 12s swap cd
But we came to the consensus that making a seamless graphic display of every scenario is impossible
Yet ts still has vergil and discord
Completely eradicating dante from the image is like
Overkill
does anyone know what character i should target getting right now?
Cause she was just irrelevant
This*
Depends on your lack of characters
Send huaxu
im sorry man idk what a huaxu is
😭
Search it up
gotchu
Also is vero consistently 3 rotting without dlt
Yes
Problem is there’s always like 500 million versions of teams charts always going around so Im waiting for the right moment to post the link in the new FAQ I made
Ok good
However
3S vero does
Oh 3s gamer
I'm 2s gamer
So the rot does change
Idk can probs try 2 dante 3 vero then
2 rot Dante 3 rot Vero (requires DLT) pretty straightforward
If enough people ask for budget teams lists or specific lists for certain affixes or elements
I could consider doing that
Which would then include adding Dante
Explore the 20 characters of Potatoes98 from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Could just dm me xdd
Vero doesn't need DLT for 3 rot if you do 1 long ult
And is SSS
How long is the time taking tho
Does sss speed up the rot
I'm 100% sure it's above 12s
I don't think so
What is Dante’s memo
4 shakes 4 cottie
4 shakes 4 cottie
Same as vero
And veras and wata what’s all their memories 
2 eins in fire
Oh ok good
If tap yellow for first rot then yeah no need; if fast ult1 (which is required for Dante team in order to keep ignition stacks alive) then you’ll need an extra 2x blue
so dalao 
Wata 4 Alphonso 4 dv?
how do you guys get millions in 1 zone???
Is leg scoring less than hero this week
You're asking about who to get from blue selector?
You do need dlt for 3 rot for .5 stat which is just better
yes
Malding or money the two Ms of any gacha game
i honestly dont know who to get in general
cuz hero dweller
If it's the check on basic member target
Then nanami startrail
If it's a selector box
Then screenshot
why is Dow camping in hero 
Vero does need DLT to 3 rot 
I didn't do plasma!!!!
camper 
got it thank you
But then after this week I'm only playing on weekends so
and demote
What characters do you have?
He posted huaxu 
yeah
I have the other helpers in case I do decide to do that dw
Since you don’t have anyone, I’d recommend getting an attacker. Selena: Pianissimo or Bianca: Crepuscule
not liv?
You can get her through phylotree banner
You're welcome
There is such a thing as thunderbolt manual research
You can research by using black cards which's cost increases exponentially, so take your time and if you have enough or you think you can get enough, you should pull liv first (if you can get her weapon)
This is recommendation for basic rnd selector
Worst choices in history
i see so if i can get liv's weapon from the weapon banner i should pull her?
Don’t get Nanami from basic rnd. You can get her through thunderbolt research
got it
Top 2 picks of basic check
Nanami: Startrail
Vera: Geiravor
2 patches later maybe
Pianissimo needs hanying
He doesn't have hanying
He doesn’t have anyone characters, so he’s starting from nothing. Having attackers will allow him to at least clear contents
is pyroath not better than geiravor since i dont have an attacker?
That's not how it works 
Nanami can solo 2 teams alone without a weapon
Pianissimo can't even do that without hanying and wanshi
get ishmael shes dps amp tank
Pyroath is older character, not better than the newer attackers. Specifically she’s not better than Vera Geiravor in terms of dmg as well
No classes don't matter
Only look at a character's kit
Geiravor outdoes pyroath
ah i see
the game is lying to me then calling pyroath the fire carry
They both go in the same team and you need them both but geiravor takes priority
mm i see
Exactly
Not gonna argue with you, but obtaining newer characters for newbies starting from scratch is just better

@young badge pls explain
I gotta work
wut
Since older chara will become available through voucher sooner
im no investment entrepreneur
He is saying piano > nana on basic when guy has 0 characters
Priotize investing in Attacker is the most common newbie mistake

Having attacker first you can build teams with A rank/free support chara, then slowly fill those roles with s ranks as you progress


Somebody kill this troll
Bianca is kinda unecessary when they already have Lilith
Sleena for a newbie is just bad
i just barely have enough to pull liv and her weapon rn
just get sss nana and solo everything
should i go for it?
Mod, send him to gen help
Cause she's useless without Solacetune
Yess
Listen to us pls potato 
I genuinely can't fathom what this guy is smoking
@deft trail Get Geiravor from the base banner check, and Startrail from the Thunderbolt selector

too broke to get anything after liv anyways 😭

oh ok
It costs BC but is permanently avaliable
So you can spend a little bit of BC
And over time you will get the selector
Still making the case for Bianca. Next patch is free teddy radiance amp, so a quick ray team can be formed
Geiravor is also fine
Radiance is dead
You're gonna need Teddy's SSS for Radiance to actually be good
No newbie is getting SSS anytime soon
yeah that is way out of my reach
Not to mention that tbh Bianca herself also wants SSS as well for Radiance
Shalom malder
Pianissimo also can form glacio team quick with free Wanshi and Alisa
Glacio is also nonexistent
Retirement grass is gud,come join
We've maybe had like

4 glacio zones ever
Man I love a nice and respectful space for discussion
pgro is such a friendly community 
I quit in Veronica
Damn everyone kiwi lmao
No spot for misinfo in #📨・meta-help
I was bored so I redownloaded real quick so I could record ice rotaiton for sm1
You are literally bricking somebody else because of your beliefs which is just that
is this good
Oh sync already ended
Igni?
kill? 
I avoid all of wz vids on yt, it made me itchy when i saw even the thumbnail kek
i feel like we are living in poverty now
There's no igni enabler
Not just Attacker glazing, we're seeing Midianca glazing here
yeah
The worst of all Attacker
Fact: glacio tank/amp are free, making Selena a good pick for new players to form a viable team fast.
Fact: Teddy, releasing next patch, is a ray amp, making Bianca a decent choice for a quick ray team.
Selena is mid at high rank, but she is cost effective at low rank due to her free glacio teammates
I’ve made my case.
got liv
what memories should i get for her?
Wdym it’s Dante
Though some people are eager to shut me up and dismiss me. I wonder why
dante's in the game???

There is nowhere to actually use glacio as a beginner other than Monzanno ig
Radiance is dead if Teddy is not SSS, even if she is it's still be mid. Also nowhere to use Radiance as a beginner
Ye, dmc collab happened back in July for global servers
might need to figure out how to get him
"I made terrible takes why are ppl disagreeing with me"
mayhaps

You cant
They will never come back
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Unfortunately you can’t anymore 
You need someone to apply the ignition stacks for him cause he is not doing that himself
i feel nothing but raw pain in my soul now
He can
anyways is the equipment goal accurate for the memories for liv?
“I got called out for my toxicity, why can’t he tell that I’m right and he’s wrong?” 
Nope be extremely careful of ingame recommended
Her best set is Heisen Cottie
Welcome back Steve
4 heisen or 4 cottie?
also where can i find reliable sets then?
Take the in-game recommendations with a bucket of salt. That is, don’t trust them at all
But not well
You can ask here, or look at pinned messages in this channel for the newest character builds
Wait what did happen to him actually I havent seen him
I'd say 4 Cottie 2 Heisen for the moment
U will be able to add another 2 pcs once u unlock Harmonization
tyvm
got it
Got banned for account trading
Supposedly
Oh

Mentioned some forbidden word cuz got curious not trading
Discussing it openly here, not a great idea
Is it C word, like how Lotte died
Ah well what a shame
Frankly I'm surprise I'm still alive for so long despite stepping over the boundary multiple times
Too many cooks in the kitchen smh. I don’t see a helper role on you, and I don’t got one either. Let’s just agree to disagree with our takes

Secret

Was prob some lurker or auto mod 
Cuz same talk went here before every now and then
Was just unlucky
is this steve?
Yes
did he kiwid
He didn't appear in another server's help chat either so I assume he also lost interested in the game
didnt see him chat in office and la for a whole
Raydiance can be used for lightning content due to its unique dmg calculations (partially shares lightning weaknesses and weather)
Liv is busted there's no need for that
Dark team: Lilith (Free) + Wanshi (Free)/Nanami (Thunderbolt) + Luna (5RC)
Fire team: Solo Vera (Base Banner) + Wanshi (Free)/Nanami (Thunderbolt) + Luna (5RC)
Ice team: Teddy (Free) + Wanshi (Free) + Lilith (Free)
Lightning Team: Solo Nanami (Thunderbolt) + Teddy/Lilith (Free) + Luna (5RC)
Void: Luna (5RC) + Wanshi(Free)/Nanami (Thunderbolt) + Lilith(Free)/Teddy(Free)/Vera(Base)
Kiwi
is qu shukra out of the running?
👍

She's about to die, next patch
😭
Yes
a tragedy
They can still change her numbers on live version
Best not to make any assumptions
My bet is that Qu is dead if she's not SSS+
Dont jinx it pls


All 3 improvement possible
Depends on if they decide to buff/nerf teddy on release or not
DM me that plz


How dare delete my pic
Mod privilege abuse
Is that an admission of guilt officer?
Mayhaps
This is far from the first time ive done that though
When mods not around someone had to curb the rampant misinfo that could arise sometimes
I would hate to be your lawyer

What is your investment in Ice and Phys? 
22.12 323 phys
(Veronica)
Oh wait ice
233 122
Yeah surely 
Misinfo again smh
*He wont apply it well
Not efficiently
LMAOOOOO
Thanks, It seems I'm not that far from Nuke, but I must mald phys
Pls play him first

He stack better than Nanami ngl 😂
I dont have him, irrelevant unit
In fact all he needs to do is stack to 14, then Vero passive will take it from there
Its not irrelevant smh
washed helper frfr 
Dante yellow is the most stable way to stack ignition

2.333 122
22.33 322 I think don't remember
Echo
Especially mobs, and it has gather 
Yes red more dmg but eh
Don't refer trash run all
But ur not using Dante yellow past the first rotation
Ngl, ice mobs feels funny, I think this is my first time playing mobs Ice with Wanshi, since i Kiwi
I used echo
Also that Donte Wata Vera looks like ppc burn comp
Nuke wtf
Ta pak 2s qu
Nice, I used echo too
Using Dante to build stacks in Hero mob zone
Wtf

I thought 2s3 that
Lol
Hero washed
Why do u play Hero 
What is the diff? 
Besides there's no reason he should be the only unit in that team
Dante’s got many problems but stacking ignition is not one of them
Dalaos killed me
No reason to not run Veronica
There is bro, PPC smh
We're not talking ab PPC
No I mean 6.2 one tap really good 6.7+ 233 mob zone waa
Veroniga too washed in ppc omg 💀
I get what you mean but Nanami runs into the same problem 
Thats wata vera so its ppc comp 💀
Thats also right
Lol
He simply asked "is this good"
All ignition have problem of overkill
Thus bricking stack problem
Theres where Veroniga comes
But shes so scam I cant 😭
She cant even build 20 stacks by her own
I skipped Veromidca
We were talking ab igni teams
Such fraud does not deserves a spot in my team
So I assume warzone
And thats good, in ppc
Saying Dante cant build stack is broad daylight misinfo 
Just admit it bro, issokay
Wanshi blind fr
You still need 40k more score for reatin goodluck 

How do I 5mil Void wz

But I'll be real, that's just a fake Nanami and cannot come close to my GOAT
Can't do it with SS ish?
What is your team invest like? Rank, reso etc
And wat if SS Luna ish 
No 5mil 4 u


Can get 5 mil if you 2s3 Luna I think
And follow correct rot
Am saving selector for SSS Rosetta 
Do you have 3S wata?
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