📨・meta-help

[steady otter]

u use matrix in that situation
but 5 bars is far away from dedge
did u hold evade ur luna after yellow ping ?

[carmine roost]

Sht bro

I'm hungry

[buoyant hornet]

nope should I hold dodge?

[steady otter]

u should for dmg

[buoyant hornet]

oh i'll try

[steady otter]

can u try with other amp

like vera ig

is that make any change ?

how to change vero to burn amp

[dawn cloak]

Set it to igni in menu. Thats it
Auto fire amp qte bot

[steady otter]

oh we can ?

omg i just knew that

[dawn cloak]

Hence same as Vera SS0
Main drawback is Vero cant apply eins unless we do 1x igni rot. Blame kuro coding

But its dv guin so it should be no difference at all

[buoyant hornet]

Just setting the team affix to ignition on team screen

[steady otter]

noted

[buoyant hornet]

btw almost kills with hold dodge lol

[steady otter]

how much bar left

[buoyant hornet]

But I'm a bit too slow to do ult2 at 6s while doing hold dodge one sec

[buoyant hornet]

half

[steady otter]

its okay, just dmg check

[chilly trail]

ML?

[dawn cloak]

Thats GA or matrix?

[steady otter]

if half bar, then dv zuwen should be on wanshi
cuz tank class value more than amp class

[buoyant hornet]

yea

[steady otter]

u lose 2 tank class cuz ur set is zuwen eins gloria

[steady otter]

but yeah, nice to know that
thank you

what if hell using luna with rasengan

what faster time can u reach

[buoyant hornet]

I'll try that now

[buoyant hornet]

ml

[buoyant hornet]

btw my vero is lacking 2 class resos

Because I didn't have guin reso'd on her yet

[steady otter]

oh ya maybe doable 8 chaos

nice

[buoyant hornet]

yeah luna leap stronk

Although I can't tell how to do 8s with hold dodge LMFAO i'm trying

I'll test hell rasengan first before malding that though

[dawn cloak]

~~ Luna finally not qte bot anymore ~~

[wicked lion]

whats the new lightning team with new liv?

[wind hemlock]

Basically Liv, Ishmael and Nanami

[wicked lion]

can i replace ishmael with anyone else?

[wind hemlock]

21 Feral ig

[wicked lion]

ok thanks

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936177367230058496/1445002769080516728/Timeline_3.mp4?ex=6932b7b3&is=69316633&hm=060d31a6cdb529ed4ee6217536f12c61b06ec0e4a3c5b7696f6d5d6b5a238261&

Like this, but 2 ping after ult1
u do rasengan

[steady otter]

feral
but u lose a ton of dmg

from lightning strike liv

[buoyant hornet]

@steady otter can't kill hell in one rot so far 😭

[wicked lion]

ill need to check if i have ishmael then

[steady otter]

this week is difficult to spread ishmael AP

[steady otter]

how much bar left & time

[buoyant hornet]

3bars, ult2 proc at 9s

With sss lilith or teddy should kill

Or r2 luna

[steady otter]

did ss0 luna has qte dmg ?

[simple dew]

no

ss3

[steady otter]

oh no

[buoyant hornet]

nope unfortunately, and ss0 attack off field tick is locked behind her doing double rot 😭

She can't just quick ult and swap off for dmg ticks

[steady otter]

11s also vera score

[buoyant hornet]

yep

[steady otter]

siren score with vero idk

dante score is 9

or 10 i forgor

so ss0 luna is not the right choice for hell

thank you

[buoyant hornet]

12s possible tho btw

But not 11

SSS lilith amp should be 11s I think

[steady otter]

can u try phys

[buoyant hornet]

(or sss teddy ofc)

[buoyant hornet]

Hmm my phys is ss3 selena

[steady otter]

🐳

can u record ur 12s luna run

[buoyant hornet]

sss lilith as amp allows luna to 11s hell, just tested

[steady otter]

pog

i think that was ur best score

for ur acc

8/8/11

[buoyant hornet]

yepp

[stoic basin]

Is liv:limpidity good for warzone?

[dawn cloak]

Ofc, shes the new meta
Always good

Dont forget to take her sig wp also

To not make her limp

[stoic basin]

Is she limited?

[dawn cloak]

Limited time yes. If you cant get her whole kit before patch ends, then need to wait for rerun which no one knows when

[stoic basin]

Okay then hope i get her sig w soon

[carmine roost]

Lmao

[cobalt prawn]

Now that I have 3s Nanami, is she a better tank to use in void and dark instead of Wata?

[carmine roost]

Gang ain't gonna believe this

Ice mobs is easier to manage than the fcking phys mobs lmao

[cobalt prawn]

No I agree

[carmine roost]

Wanshi is a btch still tho

[cobalt prawn]

Phys is pure 🧱

[dawn cloak]

No
Bricked cuz Ish copies Feral which is a gen2
With wata Ish copies Vera, a gen3
Maybe after new light amp, cuz Nana's dmg is no joke

[buoyant hornet]

@steady otter https://youtu.be/acGHq5leJYQ

[cobalt prawn]

Waitttt I did NOT know that’s how it worked

[carmine roost]

I really need to time wanshi cub as well, the slow from cub active is pretty crucial to not get hit

[cobalt prawn]

I thought Ishy’s buffs and whatnot were all just fixed numbers

[steady otter]

Nice

[dawn cloak]

iirc Teddy didnt use cottie too
Ice team gonna looove polar bear so much 💀

No super armor

[carmine roost]

Surely her cub would have slow as well

[dawn cloak]

[orchid owl]

I tried to do ish chaos 8s on tb but can't the hold dodge takes too long to trigger and thus finishing everything on 6s mark is impossible
Any tips?

[carmine roost]

Slows on cub is really broken the moment you know how to use it

More than gather

Will help 80% of ur Wanshi stagger

[buoyant hornet]

Well it's just really hard, unfortunately you just gotta keep trying until you get the timing

You can stare at the numbers on ishmael's gauge and react to them the instant the start shifting with her hold dodge

[orchid owl]

Idk even the quickest hold dodge is too long

[buoyant hornet]

And use that to time ult1

[carmine roost]

This is the moment u need speed hax

[orchid owl]

That's too slow unfortunately
Even with near perfect timing it doesn't work

[buoyant hornet]

The second you see the number start warping instantly ult1

[carmine roost]

And prob 120 fps game for the fastest input

[carmine roost]

Near perfect?

Make it perfect timing then

(trust)

[orchid owl]

I'm not chatgpt and there is nothing to go off of except muscle memory

I had the same issue with mado

[carmine roost]

Just become one

[finite tangle]

Which team am I supposed to use for Trailblazer in PPC? Since he doesn't have any elemental weakness as far as I'm aware? Like which team does the most damage currently

[carmine roost]

Attain the speedhax title

[young badge]

mado is 7s with ish

[orchid owl]

You want the team that does the correct damage in the shortest time
Currently it's nihil

[orchid owl]

Knight

[chilly trail]

Try hd after ult2 blue if it faster

[young badge]

u have 3s right?

[orchid owl]

I did 7s knight but couldn't do 8s chaos

[young badge]

should be able 7/7/8 easily

[orchid owl]

#1382861408869552138 message

I could swear I have a brick on pc client or something

There are some physically impossible inputs

[buoyant hornet]

wdym?

[orchid owl]

Like they require frame timing atp

[chilly trail]

Ish right?

[buoyant hornet]

yeah

[orchid owl]

He means after first rot instead of before

[buoyant hornet]

But what sequence do you mean exactly

[buoyant hornet]

Isn't that lowkey harder or am I misremembering

[orchid owl]

Swap, 3-ping, hd, ult 1, r y r dodge dodge ult 2

That's first

[buoyant hornet]

oh right lmao

[orchid owl]

And he says move the hd to the end

[chilly trail]

Swap > b ult1 > ryrd > ult2 > blue hd > ult1

[peak halo]

huh this means its 100% instead 70%

[buoyant hornet]

yeah arrival has calibration iirc

[peak halo]

[normal sierra]

insta swap vera kill = 11s
wata ult > vera kill = 12s
wata ult + deer cub > vera kill = 13s
2x vera rot kill = 16s (not sure if this can be 15s if no wata ult start, never tried)

and then there are the ss3 pyro strats that can get 14/15s
14s full ss3 team needed (pyro slash > vera kill)
15s with pyro dps using eclipse > swap to wata for qte kill (this prolly won't kill on hell unless fat pyro resos/cub)
but both of these need high invest teams

there could be more rots out there, but me not aware of them

[carmine roost]

Calibration lmao

Holy text

Joelao saved the day

[chilly trail]

Isnt it just 1 dodge

[orchid owl]

Dunno

[peak halo]

2 just a 2nd is insta canceled

[dawn cloak]

Next arrival seems better
All gen 3

[normal sierra]

that doesn't work
and you need the dmg bonus the purple bar gets you from the start anyway

[peak halo]

only just pyro get me cuz only she not 3s

[chilly trail]

Kick insta kill no?

[orchid owl]

Is there any cheese to hd like with pyro slash you can hold preemptively?

Idk if I'm missing something or not

And I feel like I am

[peak halo]

hmm 3s han
cuz other both 3s

[dawn cloak]

Han free at CNY soon
Trust

Dunno tho, up to you

Pyro SSS is big jump for her

[normal sierra]

it does if the 1st hit kills
but the more you delay it, the more dmg you lose, cuz ish gets dmg boost when the number is purple, and Lemon needs that for the kill

[buoyant hornet]

ty this adds up

[peak halo]

[chilly trail]

Well it is for chaos not hell

[orchid owl]

Maybe hold forward for faster rot?

[normal sierra]

no, must start the hold dodge after the blue ping, and must use ult1 the moment it starts to increase the numbers
if you see the numbers turn to purple, you are already too late with ult1

[orchid owl]

I had timing where the cube to me was still visible and I could see after ult1 it got used and still couldn't get 8s

[normal sierra]

chaos still needs that dmg boost for his team (kick not needed for the kill, but that dmg boost is)

[orchid owl]

Ts is frustrating

[normal sierra]

wutcha you mean with the cube thing?

[orchid owl]

The Cube in core passive fills with 3 ping

It gets used when you hd

[normal sierra]

don't watch that lul
only focus on the numbers, anything else is a distraction

[orchid owl]

Ok

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-cod-black-ops-bo1-bo-gif-5189525120590041366

[normal sierra]

it needs practice for sure, but once you do it a few times, it will be muscle memory

[compact fern]

yo henry u have 3s nana right

[normal sierra]

ye

[compact fern]

can 19s cradle ib?

[normal sierra]

dunno, me dun play ib

[compact fern]

with ss3 liv
ss3 nana gets 23s
prolly can 22 if faster

[normal sierra]

how much hp it has?

[compact fern]

[compact fern]

dunno its cradle so low hp prolly

[normal sierra]

ohh, I don't even know what ib buffs do there, so can't even guestimate it

33m hp btw, doesn't seem too big

[compact fern]

just test it u got nothing to do anyway

[normal sierra]

nahh, can't do that, gotta maintain my perfect 1 + 1 total score streak

[compact fern]

i used hervor gera on fire ib lel

[pine slate]

Wow whel

33m hp not big

[normal sierra]

I mean, overseer got 34m+, so

[feral flume]

Compared to tifa and red huaxu not big

[compact fern]

ib and normal ppc not the same 3s lilick takes 25s to kill dark cradle kekw

with zaza luna team

ephi easy 19s
this with wata vs wanshi btw

ib has way more res on boss i think

[dawn cloak]

No

[normal sierra]

I know, just compared it to an uppc zappy boss, highest hp zappy boss there is
that's when I realized that ib buffs are different, so can't even guess times for it

[compact fern]

[compact fern]

fund me 3s nana ill test it myself

[normal sierra]

you fund me 3s vera, and me fund you 3s nana

[compact fern]

fast+long +ish ult qte should kill
non 3s nana needs fast+long+fast+ish qte

double fast maybe can try if u have both 3s ish and nana but highly doubt lol will prolly need 3s liv as well

[compact fern]

[orchid owl]

Why vera

[blazing bridge]

What are the observation notes ehanced effects of ss3 Ishmael?

[dawn cloak]

Just click it on her kit page

It gives details

Cuz it depend on which element she copies

[blazing bridge]

Ah I see, such hidden effects

[limber yoke]

u gotta read

[young badge]

[simple dew]

pgr

please: go read

[young badge]

[carmine roost]

Oh sht gang

I actually not gonna do burn

I barely have enough ht for either Vero and teddy lmfao

💀

[dawn cloak]

RIP

F2P life is hard

[ripe stag]

I don't have anything for Teddy

Thankfully Teddy runs 4 Chen

[carmine roost]

Fck affix smh

Too much sets

[dawn cloak]

Just Vero dv guin for me

[ripe stag]

You'll HT your Veronica

[limber yoke]

damn wave 42 in hero looks brick

[dawn cloak]

Damn this week is so ass

[limber yoke]

always has been

[round lake]

We've been consistently get shjt ass WZ this month, nice

[unborn hound]

i had a nightmare that i installed pgr again

[wind hemlock]

I was going to ask why'd that be a nightmare

But it's a nightmare indeed

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[crystal rune]

Still waiting for the hunting session

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[buoyant hornet]

@steady otter 22.12 022 lightning can 10s hell trailblazer lol

But it needs bug timer

Liv fast ult > ish ult1 + liv qte

[steady otter]

oh ye i forgor liv available this week

[orchid owl]

🍀

[pallid cypress]

should i get SS3 dianca?

or better keep saving?

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-barioth-tigrex-nargacuga-soyjak-gif-8283044216858537836

[wind hemlock]

Better keep saving, SS3 Liv is a better investment, and with the new phylotree banner things gonna be more tough for f2p and goldfishes

[pallid cypress]

well i havea pity

but next banner is S rank right?

[wind hemlock]

Pity in which banner though?

[pallid cypress]

no, i meant i have enough BC and tickets to reach pity

[wind hemlock]

Anniversary banner?

[pallid cypress]

havent pulled there

[wind hemlock]

So you mean base banner

[pallid cypress]

oh yeah i did

i got SS3 nanaknight

this is my pity in every banner

@wind hemlock so better save?

to afford the next S rank weapon and cub as well

[wind hemlock]

Better save, though because next S-rank will be free everything like Lilith, if you are willing to spend now, you can pull for SS3 Liv

Also depends of your roster too, anniversary banner might be useful to get some units that are missing

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[carmine roost]

<@&595893856554319873>

Kai cenat is here

[pallid cypress]

i have everyone except for some older units

so im pretty up to date with meta

[wind hemlock]

The dude who freaking called a psychologist because he couldn't beat Radahn

[wind hemlock]

So imo you SS3 Liv or save

Next S-rank is a free one and voucherable too

[sick flower]

THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT BRO

[hazy sandal]

Free moni?

[wanton hatch]

free money for next patch

[violet pecan]

Between Startrail, Pianissimo, and Geiravor, which is best to raise to SS via Anni Banner (55/60)? All Lack sig weapon but memories are fully resonated

[graceful summit]

What
You can make them ss by buying shards from phantom pain cage

No need to pull dupes for ss

[violet pecan]

I’m broke tho

😂

[sick flower]

they are all 100% worth to upgrade to SS BUT THATS NOT WITH THE BANNER, USE YOUR SKULLS

[graceful summit]

Just wait bruh

[fading kestrel]

no other units youre missing? cause id recommend grabbing units you dont have yet

[violet pecan]

I have all meta units

[sick flower]

are you sure

[fading kestrel]

eh, pianissimo then ill say

[violet pecan]

Wdym

[sick flower]

give your id

[graceful summit]

Well you can always ss3 someone

If you pull like that then buy shards from ppc

[wanton hatch]

ss3 Selena's great

[warm stirrup]

Question would it be better to start of as amplifier then switch into Attacker ? For extra dmg bonus ?

[fading kestrel]

that depends entirely on the team

you never want your Main-DPS to be the starter
however, attackers arent always the main-dps

[warm stirrup]

Exactly

But like the dark team Start off wit Lilith Then dmg destroy with Bianca Dodge effect

[carmine reef]

they are in affix sometimes :)

main dps being starter, i mean

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-lucia-pyroath-intro-gif-283908977141830142

pyroath is starter in fire as the attacker of the team 😭

[fading kestrel]

thats because you swap them in last to do the damage >:(
i know okay, dont have to rub it in my face smh smh

[carmine reef]

well pyroath isn't main dps so

doesn't contradict what xav said

[fading kestrel]

starter tank
swap to lilith, do rotation
swap to bianca, do rotation

[fading kestrel]

yall making fun of pyro when liv is right there

[wanton hatch]

may vary

glacio starts with selena too right?

[warm stirrup]

Can this include on any team ? Tank 》Amp 》Atker

[fading kestrel]

like i said, it depends completely on the team itself

[warm stirrup]

Rats

Damn characters

[wanton hatch]

depends, ice phys does amp-tank-atk

[carmine reef]

in wz, the tank usually has to do a rot first, unless they are one of the based tanks that drop shred field on qte (nana, leaped wata)

[warm stirrup]

Who should I use for ignition?

[open pewter]

Do you have Vera?

[warm stirrup]

Yeah ?

[open pewter]

Use Veronica, Nanami, Vera

[warm stirrup]

But isn't vera DF

[graceful summit]

But vera is fire amp
And fire can buff ignition

[open pewter]

Yup

[wanton hatch]

they have Dante
can use Dante Nana Vero

[open pewter]

Dante got powercrept by Veronica

[graceful summit]

But sigless vero

[wanton hatch]

Vero still S w/o sig

[warm stirrup]

And if idont have vera what then

[open pewter]

Then you use dante

2nd best

[warm stirrup]

So Dante nana verónica

[open pewter]

Invest in Veronica for good ignition dps

[warm stirrup]

But this whole ignition DF bull I don't even know a good character to like start it up n stuff

[open pewter]

That's why Vera is good to have, fire buffs ignition

[open pewter]

Using this team, Veronica acts more as an amp

[graceful summit]

I mean considering your vero and nana condition probably better to use Dante nana vero

[warm stirrup]

Like seen nana can easily stack it up to 15

Like rel quick

Then dmg output for veronica is mostly on her ULT

[open pewter]

I would still invest and try for Veronicas sig, she's new and has a long lifespan

[orchid owl]

mm I wouldn't say that

she deals a lot of damage with her core as well

[warm stirrup]

From I have seen

[orchid owl]

woah there partner
we don't know who else he has and veronica is not a priority

[warm stirrup]

Then dante is really good bc you can switch from 1 form to another with a single tap and have combos

[open pewter]

They're asking about ignition

[orchid owl]

you can cope with SS3 dante if he has sig

[orchid owl]

and this is meta help
you don't brick for 1 team

[open pewter]

Just my advice for ignition 🙏

[warm stirrup]

I'm still gonna skip for the other teams aswell

[orchid owl]

wdym

[wanton hatch]

Waffles send huaxu so we can take a better look

[open pewter]

Yea tru

[warm stirrup]

Imma ask sorry

Huaxu?

[open pewter]

I wouldn't get ahead of myself and try building all teams

[wanton hatch]

cuz rn, only thing you have for ignition is Dante Nana Vero

[open pewter]

Choose a team you like to began with, and build from there

[orchid owl]

that's half of a newbie's job

[sick flower]

epitaph?

[warm stirrup]

Bro straightforward up speed run

[open pewter]

From ignition, you can build fire and literally any element connected

[wanton hatch]

[orchid owl]

no no you need to get all the characters you can
and then you can slowly get teams
because you can cope with 1-2 "premium" units and fill in the rest but if you only have 1 working team, what are you gonna do??
you can't even do 2 war zones properly

[open pewter]

Or just let them have fun jeez

[orchid owl]

#📨・meta-help

Hi i'd like to remind everyone again that this chat will always recommend the most "meta" thing to do for a given question. If you're going to come in here and ask something that you have a predetermined answer for and not listen then it's useless to post here. People are not being toxic they just want to answer your question optimally. Thank you have a good rest of your day everyone.

[wanton hatch]

fun? in my meta-help?

[sick flower]

meta is not fun

meta is job

[wanton hatch]

nonsense

[orchid owl]

if you want affirmation go to #💬・pgr-general

he was asking about building teams in the meta channel so I will do my best to not brick him

[open pewter]

^^^

[sick flower]

is there a strict meta channel in wuwa

[orchid owl]

this is entirely wrong

[open pewter]

This is how I would build my meta

[orchid owl]

ignition is ignition

[sick flower]

or are pgr players lifeless 😭

[warm stirrup]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/20653749/characters

Is this it?

[orchid owl]

ok have fun going up against years of experienced players and valid stats that prove your idea of "building" is flawed

[wanton hatch]

oh dam sigless Dante

[orchid owl]

sigless nana too

[graceful summit]

[orchid owl]

but still best sigless you have for igni

[graceful summit]

Is it even worth using Dante atp

[orchid owl]

if he had sig yes

[wanton hatch]

idk my Dante's naked

[open pewter]

They ask for ignition, build ignition

[sick flower]

WHAT

[orchid owl]

and dante does work in the weird comp of dante vero vera

[wanton hatch]

exactly

[sick flower]

oh you mean no invest

[orchid owl]

it's not that simple
now if you don't agree with me that's fine but don't force your own interests upon another

[open pewter]

That's literally what they're asking 😭

[warm stirrup]

So how is ot looking trash or smahs

[wanton hatch]

could try getting Nana/Vero sig

[orchid owl]

your ignition team is looking pretty dark

[sick flower]

btw do we have any confirmation on solacetune leap

[open pewter]

Off topic now, Veronica is the best DPS for ignition period

[wanton hatch]

no

[orchid owl]

I heard nothing about this

[orchid owl]

you are goddamn wrong

even if you say that in the context of her having sig, his vera is S

ah wait you are talking about veronica
especially wrong then

[sick flower]

isnt dante the best dps for ignition

[icy otter]

No

It depends

[open pewter]

Veronica powercrept Dante, he needs to be SSS

[warm stirrup]

Dark?

[warm stirrup]

Period.

[icy otter]

ss3 dante is still beating ss0 vero igni

[sick flower]

doesnt veronica and nanami score better because of veronica also buffing nanamis ignition damage

[orchid owl]

S veronica, S vera, S nanami and an SS3 sigless dante

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[wind hemlock]

Damn, so Dante is mid asf becaue for me SS Veronica doesn't seem to be anything special

[wanton hatch]

[open pewter]

Sigless Dante and he's limited

So Veronica ftw

[icy otter]

So for your acc

[orchid owl]

idk I'd take my chances with sigless SS3 dante

[wanton hatch]

they can disregard Dante since he doesn't have sig anyway

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

[open pewter]

That's a good start for now

[sick flower]

can we get permanent ignition attacker kuro 💔

[icy otter]

Why we taking acc invest and using global comparison

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[orchid owl]

I think we can agree he needs to pull weapon
and I say it should be nanami's for obvious reasons

[warm stirrup]

For ignition team is?

[wind hemlock]

Kamui

[warm stirrup]

Dude legit 2 days ago I pulled for Liv so I'm broke rn

[orchid owl]

ok what do you want me to say I'm just trying to tell you what's the best thing you can do rn

[sick flower]

kamui is dark plasma and im betting my house and my left kidney on it

[orchid owl]

technically liv's weapon takes priority since everything she came with is limited

but if you are dead set on igni then nanami

[icy otter]

Brother just attempt wz with whatever u have it's not gonna promote anyway

[open pewter]

Nanamis sig is a good option, for both Ignition and Lightning since you got Liv

[sick flower]

btw spectre is enabler right?

[icy otter]

😭

[graceful summit]

Yeah
Ray enabler

[sick flower]

same rotation as ice?

[open pewter]

This must be overwhelming for the new kid lol

[graceful summit]

bad at doing ray damage but fast at getting ray stacks

[open pewter]

That's why I say, one element at a time

Don't wanna burn out

[graceful summit]

It's different from what I've seen from the beta stuff

But probably wait for release for now

[sick flower]

does it have special orb stuff for affix like cw?

[warm stirrup]

Sorry I remember that

[graceful summit]

Like what?

[sick flower]

if thats the case spectre will be one of the best units at making combos

[warm stirrup]

Ok

[sick flower]

cw uses white orbs for affix which is completely different than what she uses in element

[icy otter]

@noble zinc can u save my ice

There's still 3 dudes in bracket with 0 scord

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[open pewter]

Nanami is also on Plasma, Raydiance team, but that's for later, so she's a good unit to build early game

[graceful summit]

Oh then yea
After her ult form she uses red/yellow/blue orb for ice
But special orb for ray

[open pewter]

Best tank

[warm stirrup]

Hum?

[open pewter]

Nanami is just the best tank in simple words

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/ecifirces-vera-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-happy-gif-12014308566650910426

[wanton hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757563597944520784/1290090982158630993/IMG_8961.gif

[warm stirrup]

Okay so looking at info In game setup my teams like DF ignition and Galactica and plasma Slash

[sick flower]

GALACTICA

[icy otter]

What did he mean by that chat

[stray siren]

Galactica

[open pewter]

Wait y'all, Veronica is on slash too right?

The only affix I lack

[icy otter]

Ts and phys are both trash

[sick flower]

no luminance is, ofc she is who the hell do you think will be the slash support bruh

[icy otter]

Not losing out

[young badge]

galactica

[icy otter]

Ereshyukilao wheres ur 25m

This week

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[open pewter]

Lol

[young badge]

alrdy 25

[icy otter]

Bro wtf

Mods ban this guy

Kill the f3p

[young badge]

not my acc tho

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-staring-suspicious-memes-gif-9038143639402170425

Bro is piloting too

Pilot mine

[young badge]

[warm stirrup]

Should I just follow this up

[icy otter]

R u good

It's outdated

[open pewter]

Nanami > Vera > Veronica is your priority

Start with them and expand from there

[open pewter]

Yes correct

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

[open pewter]

Some changed tho

[graceful summit]

Ts updated one

[open pewter]

It's still the same tbh

It's just missing the new units

[deft apex]

So it's not the same

Lul

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[young badge]

[warm stirrup]

And here I was reading that one

[open pewter]

It's just Veronica and Liv missing

Which they have

[sick flower]

chat who here is good at ice

[open pewter]

I have full SSS Ice

[young badge]

rydle

[wanton hatch]

so whel

[sick flower]

i have a question about my ice invest plan

[open pewter]

Why

Ask

[orchid owl]

bro

[sick flower]

so

[orchid owl]

why is my message getting auto removed

[icy otter]

Send an ss

[icy otter]

So we can tell

[fading kestrel]

get automodded dumbass

[icy otter]

Of ur message

[orchid owl]

idk it just disappear

[fading kestrel]

yea thats automod

[open pewter]

It's a sign

[icy otter]

Ok mods whale react him he has ish skin

[wanton hatch]

mf broke my ear

[orchid owl]

@young badge @normal sierra @buoyant hornet I did it

[sick flower]

i have ss3 sig r0 ld, ss0 sig r0 shukra and im planning on making spectre ss3 with sig r0, i currently use ss0 r3 parhelion as the ice amplifier, would it be a good idea to resonate dlt on shukra and keeping her as main dps while using spectre as support?

[compact yoke]

SSS ?

[orchid owl]

yea

[wanton hatch]

LD is main dps in ice wdym

[compact yoke]

Whel

[icy otter]

Do not dlt qu

dd wanshi

[open pewter]

I wouldn't invest in ice just yet cos Spectre still in beta

[sick flower]

you are the first person ever to say this

[orchid owl]

[open pewter]

And beta says Ayla is still meta

[wanton hatch]

am not?

[young badge]

7s now

[sick flower]

you are

[orchid owl]

[icy otter]

[orchid owl]

where

[wanton hatch]

nuhuh

[sick flower]

i am always told that shukra is mdps

[wanton hatch]

she's not

[icy otter]

This is some braincell losing hours bruh

[compact yoke]

I'm tempted to make ish ss3 instead of liv ss3

[wanton hatch]

someone's being misinfolao again

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072740014640865280.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PeepoLeave

[wanton hatch]

push for Liv

[sick flower]

so shukra doesnt work as mdps with spectre being support sub dps

[open pewter]

I would leave Ice alone for now

Just wait a little bit

[wanton hatch]

Spectre just deals more dmg than Qukra it won't make sense to keep her mdps

[graceful summit]

Shukra's gonna be dv holder

[icy otter]

dv eins qu I will be there

[sick flower]

is the difference huge

[graceful summit]

Massive

[compact yoke]

Well we'll see I can probably ss3 her next week

[wanton hatch]

only if 3s I think cuz of dmg boost, if not you just use an amp or ayla instead

[icy otter]

Kuro can we get an eins rework so it's per enemy and not internal cd

Trash ahh set

[sick flower]

can we get uniframe rework first

[graceful summit]

Qu is def benched next patch

[wanton hatch]

actually just hold off on building Qu for now

[icy otter]

Easier to delete them

Entirely

[wanton hatch]

testers always have 444 no use comparing ss3

[open pewter]

Yeah at this point qu is benched, so just wait

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1077430201564274759.gif?size=40&quality=lossless

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

ive seen shukra videos of lotte he dealt more damage with shukra than my limpidity 😭

im jealous

[graceful summit]

Wut
But their different element

[open pewter]

With Teddy and Wanshi, Qu doesn't have enough field time, so she's DV holder

[wanton hatch]

cuz lotte has 3s and prob using it on an -ice res boss?

[open pewter]

Otherwise Ayla is just better

[sick flower]

im comparing the damage output

to show that shukra can do insane damage

[graceful summit]

What invest exactly

[sick flower]

no he showed me in training stage

[wanton hatch]

[open pewter]

Changes can still be made, which is why you should wait

On investing in Qu

[wanton hatch]

gib weejio

[sick flower]

give wha

[wanton hatch]

vid

[compact yoke]

Is ss7 ayla more worth than ss2 qu

[sick flower]

he sent me that months ago 😭

[graceful summit]

Ayla probably

[compact yoke]

Rest in peace Qu

[open pewter]

It's pretty much confirmed Ayla benched Qu

[graceful summit]

Ss qu idt is good enough to be onfield

[wanton hatch]

fack, if were talking about Lotte it's gonna be sss r3 then
your limpidity is what invest anyway

[sick flower]

ss3 r0 😭

[wanton hatch]

[graceful summit]

[wanton hatch]

then you're doing something wrong

[orchid owl]

can 7s trailblazer? it seems impossible
there's like a good 0.5s left after rot

[sick flower]

he deleted around half hp of gardener with 1 ult on shukra

[wanton hatch]

half a bar or like half the whole thing

[sick flower]

and he bullied me for saying shukra is bad

[sick flower]

5 to 2

[open pewter]

Regardless, Qu is still good for PPC in Ice

[wanton hatch]

oh wow truly sss

[sick flower]

oh i forgot to ask about that

is spectre rotation significantly slower than shukra?

[open pewter]

Yes, Qu is still better in PPC

For that reason

[sick flower]

he spent his life savings on shukra to make her good and says im wrong for saying she is bad

BRO EVERYONE IS GOOD IF YOU SPEND THAT MUCH ON THEM 😭

[sick flower]

so is it still good to resonate her weapon if i have an extra sig weapon to spare

[open pewter]

Yes and no, she has no leap or affix

So her content is merely just Ice

[compact yoke]

Does having R1 on crepuscule good or bad

[sick flower]

good

dont go for more

[open pewter]

It's just PPC Qu is good for post Spectre

[compact yoke]

Just R1 no R2 ?

[open pewter]

But it's still in beta, so just wait imo

[sick flower]

i believe we will get a new ppc ice boss with spectre

[wanton hatch]

ofc it'll be good, Liv more consistent dmg anyway, 1ult and 2qte gardener gone

[sick flower]

and if shukra is enough to kill that in 2 ults i WILL have to get her dlt ig

[open pewter]

I think the new PPC boss is Raydiance, and not Ice

[noble zinc]

Wut inv ice amr score rn

[graceful summit]

Attackers don't need r2
Just stop at r1

[wanton hatch]

won't, even in Emperor you still want to use LD

[sick flower]

but we didnt see anything for spectre patch yet

[noble zinc]

Weekend maybe now can't play

[icy otter]

I got 4m on 1tap with 232 112 no cub

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[open pewter]

Speculation, cos Bianca gets a skin too in spectre patch, to promote Raydiance

[wanton hatch]

[sick flower]

isnt shukra way better for quick boss kills

[open pewter]

It's a Raydiance boss for sure

[wanton hatch]

if boss isn't beefy that is

Mado can do

[sick flower]

mado?

[wanton hatch]

Madorea

[icy otter]

Madorea

[sick flower]

i use shukra for that

[icy otter]

But madorea is such a funny boss where there's cases that 5* qu is faster than her sig

Because of sig matrix proc

[compact yoke]

I guess after bonca I'll R2 wanshi

[open pewter]

But ye, hold off on investing in Qu until we hear more about Spectre patch

[icy otter]

U can clear madorea hell in like 12s with fire team

[open pewter]

It's literally soon

[icy otter]

0 hp boss

[graceful summit]

But why r2 wanshi
He doesn't need dlt iirc

[wanton hatch]

every week is nihil week

[sick flower]

i will just spare my sirius and nothing more, im not investing in shukra

[wanton hatch]

incan

[compact yoke]

So dd only ?

[graceful summit]

Yeah

Amp is better with r2

Since they have sar and gs

[icy otter]

Doesn't he need dlt for consistent triple rot or am I high

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[wanton hatch]

ur high

[sick flower]

why would you do triple rot

[wanton hatch]

doesn't need dlt for a 3rot

[compact yoke]

Well I guess I'll make my ayla R2

[icy otter]

I'm following what zexlao told me in his video

[sick flower]

huh

[icy otter]

It's all ur fault zex

[wanton hatch]

[graceful summit]

Why ayla
R2 teddy bruh

[open pewter]

I don't use dlt on Wanshi

[sick flower]

isnt even 2 rotations too much

[open pewter]

He doesn't need it

[sick flower]

why are we considering 3 rotations 💔

[wanton hatch]

depends, he has variations

[icy otter]

Aren't you not sss wanahi

[compact yoke]

Just kidding I'm saving my usb

[icy otter]

How are you filling in swap downtime

[graceful summit]

[orchid owl]

nergi said he doesn't you just miss attacks on mob zone so you don't get enough orbs
other person said you do run out eventually so

[sick flower]

ss3

[wanton hatch]

can do 6 screen swap off
swap in 12 screen ult
30 air
6 swap off ig

[sick flower]

i hold ba more

[wanton hatch]

Ice is weird cuz you need to pay attention to the waves or else ur wasting ults hitting nothing

[icy otter]

That doesn't fill 15s lol

[sick flower]

it doesnt?

let me check hold on

[wanton hatch]

ss wanshi does 3ult right?

[open pewter]

Well guess what guys, it's all gonna change once Spectre drops

[wanton hatch]

bullet drone bullet

[icy otter]

From the triple rot vid of zex on wanshi launch it said ss preferably does 3 ult but without dlt u can run out

Idk if rot has changed

Like citrom mentioned

Could be mobs

[wanton hatch]

it doesn't really run out

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[wanton hatch]

well maybe if you do a 3rot in 1st swap in it does run out

[icy otter]

No it was 12 screen ult

[wanton hatch]

oh then it shouldn't run out

[orchid owl]

12 swap off, then swap in full hold ba, reload at end, cube ult and 12 swap off

[open pewter]

You need dlt to do 3, but I don't understand why we are doing 3 anyways

I've always done 2 since SS

[wanton hatch]

no need dlt

[orchid owl]

in mob zone 3 doesn't work well

you'll need to do 3 when teddy releases

she gets energy from other member's ulting

1 ult = 1/3 bar

[icy otter]

Or how about

Not playing ice at all

Just do 2 zones

It's that shrimple

[wanton hatch]

that works

[icy otter]

10m+10m

[open pewter]

Spectre will save Ice

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936606307388121188.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worryRun

[open pewter]

Ice is just horrible

Atm

[compact yoke]

Yeah my Qu is not cutting it

[open pewter]

Same lol

[compact yoke]

Even though she's ss2 R1

I need teddy she'll be my dps

[icy otter]

ss2

[open pewter]

Teddy will save fr

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[open pewter]

Qu shouldve got a leap

That would've saved her rn

I don't understand why they skipped her

Lazy mfs, nah haha

[compact yoke]

Probably

[icy otter]

New character easier than fixing trash

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[compact yoke]

Well yeah lamia and lee got replaced

[icy otter]

As an attacker she has nothing to get leaped into element wise

[open pewter]

She just needs buffs

That's what most leaps are anyways

[open pewter]

Slash was right there 😭

With Hanying

How did they miss honestly lol

I predicted Qu slash and it never happened

[icy otter]

They're not gonna pump out a collab ts unit then an A rank ts unit then leap ts unit

When phys as a whole is having a major crisis

[open pewter]

No cos Vergil is unobtainable now

They could've used Qu as the free Perma option

[icy otter]

Yea they gave you discord

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[open pewter]

They said here, cope

[orchid owl]

how to 8s hell tb with ish?

I do way less damage

[icy otter]

U did it did u lot

Not*

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

Attackers are always a lost cause

[open pewter]

I think it's on purpose tbh

Kuro released all those selectors up to Qu, everyone invested, now she's benched

Lol

[icy otter]

They were meant for wata btw

Ss3 qu was bricking

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[open pewter]

F2p would've chosen both

I used them for Wata SSS

Fire, Darkflow, Void

[icy otter]

Ignition

[open pewter]

Oh real?

[icy otter]

Dark

Yes he has 5 wz teams

At sss leap

[open pewter]

Omg I didn't even know

I just knew those 3

Yay

[open pewter]

SSS ish tank, or SSS wata for dark?

[icy otter]

Ish

Wata isn't shredding dark

He just has infinite uptime on bathlon

[wanton hatch]

Ishy

[open pewter]

Okay thanks, prob why I didn't know

[icy otter]

Even in ignition he's just shredding the parent element and reducing swap cd by 3s

But this wz I gave him 2 rots in igni to line up dmg

[drifting cipher]

The next selector we get should be up to Ishmael right?

[open pewter]

Wata and Nami best tanks

[open pewter]

What kind of selector?

[icy otter]

It's at best luna or hanying

Ish is too far ahead

[drifting cipher]

Also is it worth getting Ayla’s weapon from the selector we recently got (the one that goes up to Luna). I’m assuming Qu is getting benched when Teddy comes out

[icy otter]

Hold onto it

For now

[drifting cipher]

I thought it could be Ishmael since we went through all the accelerated patches

[open pewter]

Teddy is still in beta, wait for patch notes

[icy otter]

Even during accelerated patches we only got them upto qu

Gen 2

[drifting cipher]

🫡

[icy otter]

Jumping from that to mid gen 3

Is too big

[drifting cipher]

Makes sense

[open pewter]

Wait when was the last selector I forgot

[drifting cipher]

No more foresight now that we’re caught up

Wasn’t it last patch? Up to Qu

[sick flower]

@icy otter wanshi easily makes up to switch cd

[icy otter]

Ur probs right

[drifting cipher]

I ended up picking hyperLee instead since I didn’t have him just for collection purposes

[icy otter]

I was messing up swap cds on sss

So they probs do lineup on below

[sick flower]

you know he can unload his revolver not just 2 but 3 times on hold ba

[open pewter]

Fair enough, he cool so he gets the pass

[orchid owl]

yeah but you don't do 3 clips because it's

1. too long
2. a waste

you use the 3rd just to reload and do 12

[drifting cipher]

Plus I heard Qu ss3 isn’t anything crazy so I went for a new character instead

[sick flower]

i find it very useful in early waves, it helps to not waste sig move too

[open pewter]

Hyper Lee is useful when plasma and fire are both in PPC, which is almost never, but good to know !

[sick flower]

shukra ss3 is ahh

[orchid owl]

qu ss3 good if you got her from selector
otherwise if you are pulling it's extremely valueless

[icy otter]

Whar

[orchid owl]

she is only for 1 team and 1 team only
and she gets interrupted by mobs

[icy otter]

They have diff dps alrd

Lee is doing nothing

Fire is vera

[sick flower]

thats so fcing wrong

[carmine reef]

she only gets interrupted if you're skill issued

[icy otter]

Plasma is pyro

[orchid owl]

fr fr on god

[open pewter]

Oh lol, I have SSS Lee, he still does good damage

[sick flower]

who gets interrupted by mobs?

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/qu-shukra-pgr-pgr-qu-qu-pgr-gif-16529683347958543810

[icy otter]

Qu has like

Non existent interrupt res

[drifting cipher]

Is she still the main damage dealer in WZ? I feel like SSS Wanshi is doing most of the damage

[icy otter]

She can get hit on almost anything

[drifting cipher]

Yeah getting interrupted on her hold BA drives me crazy

[icy otter]

Not really intuitive on a character with multiple anim lock moves

[open pewter]

At SSS she evens out Wanshi SSS

[orchid owl]

she doesn't have it unless you completed the 1st phase of hold BA
or you interrupt the enemies first with a 3-ping

[carmine reef]

again, if you know how to play qu you genuinely won't get staggered

i'm not saying that to troll

[drifting cipher]

My Qu is just SS, Wanshi SSS

[open pewter]

Yeah then Wanshi is way better

[carmine reef]

make use of hold ba during core and make use of dodge cancels correctly

and you won't get staggered on qu

[icy otter]

Well yes zex we dodge before hold ba

[sick flower]

and thats people like lotte who make shukra look like the best char in the game

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

I didn't get hit this wz

It's still not fun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[orchid owl]

how to 8s tb hell
I have everything but I am missing something
same rot as chaos but w kick at the end
still doesn't kill

[open pewter]

Does anyone play Qu without dlt?

[sick flower]

me

[icy otter]

Me

[open pewter]

You pros, I cbf 😭

[drifting cipher]

Went from 4.9m in WZ with SS Liv to 6.1 after getting ss3

[icy otter]

Damn light is cooked

[open pewter]

It's like one wrong click with dlt less qu, restart

[icy otter]

Um

[noble zinc]

Luna with still stuck?

[open pewter]

Dam

[icy otter]

We don't do 2 full ults

It's 1 fast 1 full

You don't run out this way

[sick flower]

is limpidity solo lightning real chat

[young badge]

why not do 2 full

[icy otter]

Just have to give ish like 2s fieldtime

[orchid owl]

I did 8s knight and chaos with ish
I wanna do 8s hell now but can't for some reason

[icy otter]

I'm not finding the single orb ping on my orbs to line up non dlt double rot yuki

That's why you should pilot

Here I'm giving you the keys

[orchid owl]

tb doesn't die on leg raise, only way after kick

[young badge]

[drifting cipher]

My phy wz is 2.9m… cooked

[sick flower]

chat im craving to spare sirius for shukra dlt should i genuinely do it

[young badge]

u have nooke

[noble zinc]

Wut abt ap management
You dont have sss selena?

[carmine reef]

you don't always dodge before hold ba

[icy otter]

Nahhh

[orchid owl]

I do why

[carmine reef]

it depends on the orb leading into it

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/879087290209665054.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=MonkaW

[noble zinc]

Use her it's way easier

[open pewter]

If you like her, do it, who cares

It's one reso

[carmine reef]

same thing with tap ba during core

[open pewter]

You'll get another

[orchid owl]

just hold dodge or what?

[sick flower]

naah i dont fw shukra but i want to make her useful

[noble zinc]

Blueorb kill

[drifting cipher]

I need Veronica’s sig

[carmine reef]

it depends on the orb color because there are 3 different animations for orb ping and for the resulting core

[orchid owl]

wow

[noble zinc]

SSS han need too

[orchid owl]

and is 8s the lowest for tb on all stages?

[orchid owl]

ok I'm cooked

no SSS han

[noble zinc]

Seems

[sick flower]

shukra can easily do 2 ults with dlt right?

[open pewter]

Are you sure? With Teddy right there

[icy otter]

Veronica sig is NOT the problem here bruh

[noble zinc]

knight prob can still

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1353896360579170364.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=crashingout

[orchid owl]

I can do knight and chaos with ish 8s

[sick flower]

for pain cage

[drifting cipher]

Enlighten me please gang😭cuz all my other teams are performing lol

[icy otter]

Record ur wz run

[drifting cipher]

Ss3 hanying, SS Selena

[noble zinc]

Wut abt ephilates and gwyn then

[icy otter]

Okay yea no

[sick flower]

right..?

[open pewter]

Isnt dlt Shukra just for easy gameplay tho

[icy otter]

22.32 225 with cubs team score 2.9 on phys is like

[open pewter]

Like you don't need it for PPC

[orchid owl]

I need ish for those?
I got empyrea, scire, lilith
all 3s

[icy otter]

Ur doing 40s team rots

[drifting cipher]

My phone would probably explode lol. It already overheats on Selena’s ult

[sick flower]

...right..?

[icy otter]

Are you on lowest graphics

Ur not aren't you

[noble zinc]

Gwyn hell need ish for 10 clear
Ephilates also need for chaos and hell

[drifting cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-awkward-worried-nervous-embarrassed-gif-4782036

[noble zinc]

10/11

[orchid owl]

well I can't do everything then ig

either go broke with 8/8/8 tb or split in 2 bosses

[drifting cipher]

No lmao

[icy otter]

We cannot be batting high reso with hdr and complaining abt lag dawg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072740014640865280.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PeepoLeave

[carmine reef]

nonviable in wz without dlt

[drifting cipher]

Game’s too peak though😭

[carmine reef]

yes

[icy otter]

Well all I can say is you're doing something terribly wrong in phys

[sick flower]

whats the rotation

[open pewter]

For PPC

[noble zinc]

@nergi sss ish should still have enough dmg for 8 tb maybe your memo wrong
Oi give confirmation

[icy otter]

And jts easier for you to never play phys again

[noble zinc]

@crystal rune

[carmine reef]

it's just 2 strong ults

[orchid owl]

ish 4 shakes 4 cottie
luna 4 dv 2 gloria 2 eins
feral 4 sam 4 guin

I tried 4 sothoth too didn't work

less damage

[carmine reef]

doesn't need for exppc
needs for ib i guess

[noble zinc]

One i used was SSS3 need to check ref wait

[open pewter]

Yeah it's really up to you if you wanna reso qu dlt

[orchid owl]

https://youtu.be/vUzRVKBkuU4

I have same invest just not R3

[open pewter]

My prediction for Spectre patch is, New Raydiance boss, New Bianca SFX, New Teddy Non SFX

[carmine reef]

anyway some tips for the qu skin tissuers
blue 2nd ping = ok to basic during ani
blue 3rd ping = don't dodge cancel
red 2nd ping = ok to basic during ani
red 3rd ping = dodge cancel
yellow 2nd ping = don't bother to basic, just cancel right away
yellow 3rd ping = dodge cancel

[noble zinc]

Tb knight 7 seem dobale

[orchid owl]

idk I tried it seems too much time
with ish at least

[open pewter]

I have a qu question, are you meant to insta ult when it's available, or let the animation play out?

[noble zinc]

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[carmine reef]

instant

[noble zinc]

Hax need

[open pewter]

Okay ty

[carmine reef]

letting animation play out was only ever a strat in qu solo times for breakpoints

[orchid owl]

damn so tight

[carmine reef]

with wanshi it's not worth considering

[open pewter]

Interesting, one day I just started insta ult and never looked back

[carmine reef]

if you're going full speed you can have extra time for ish swap even with sss wanshi

[noble zinc]

He's using lick for 8 hell reso shouldn't be problem you got recording?

[orchid owl]

not yet
I used feral so it should be better though? nana copy = more shred

[young badge]

feral 3s?

[mental violet]

how long before alpha's new frame?

[orchid owl]

yes

grabbing video

[spiral merlin]

half a year

[orchid owl]

here @noble zinc @young badge

[young badge]

this hell?

[orchid owl]

yes

333 122 111 luna ish feral

[young badge]

wut ish memo

[noble zinc]

Where shakes icon

[orchid owl]

icon? like debuff?

[noble zinc]

Ish isn't on shaks check again

[noble zinc]

Yes

[orchid owl]

oh yea you are right

[noble zinc]

Icon apply on enmy

[orchid owl]

[fresh plover]

no, it allows for two full ults instead of short ult+full ult

[orchid owl]

but I did a run before with shakes which didn't work either

[young badge]

[noble zinc]

Do again

[fresh plover]

you can do without dlt but it just is less damage

[noble zinc]

Proper memo check all

Of chrs

[open pewter]

Yes but isn't that only viable in PPC?

[carmine reef]

no?