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[peak halo]

And not used on another boss
So dark fire is this week not count

[young badge]

[noble zinc]

Not playing mob
Shameless video can see for now he got good runs

[cobalt prawn]

Send link

Nuke u gotta grind mob

It’s so fun

Trust

[young badge]

ye it was fun

[young badge]

ice mob once in red moon

[cobalt prawn]

Next week better be all boss to compensate

Every wave is vassago

[peak halo]

Or alpha

[cobalt prawn]

I have never had issues w her

[young badge]

triple musashi wave

[cobalt prawn]

The stupid fakking worm tho

Can crawl to hell and burn for eternity

[clever gulch]

The last "recent" character I am missing for one of the main teams is qu, just got ishmael, should I try going for qu ? Assuming I can still get enough for next patch char and sig ofc

[peak halo]

Same, but know a pilot who has, but its was on her main

[noble zinc]

https://youtube.com/@shamelessend?si=1Qwf4GGP8_hwlDUl he got many all good any can see

[peak halo]

[cobalt prawn]

Qu is honestly not very worth atp

She’s so old she’s boutta be retired

[carmine roost]

Forget about qu

[verbal forge]

I don't even have it

[cobalt prawn]

I’m actually not super sure what the situation is with Teddy rn, but i think teddy wanshi + ayla is the ice team now??

[young badge]

teddy wanshi qu

[cobalt prawn]

Even after teddy got bonked with nerf hammer in v2

[verbal forge]

For quless ppl or homeless qu invest ye

[cobalt prawn]

SS0 with DLT is homeless or no

[verbal forge]

I mean its good for 1 rotation ig

[cobalt prawn]

Oh wait v4 is alr out?

I haven’t been keeping up w the changes what’s going on w her

[young badge]

she boutta get lilick treatment on releasr

[peak halo]

1 or 1.5 rot if i seen in setsu vid

[young badge]

1 teddy 3 wanshi 1 qu

[cobalt prawn]

Hm

[peak halo]

[cobalt prawn]

They greatly nerfed her dmg compared to v1 right?

[fluid gulch]

Qukra is finally out of ice team?

[cobalt prawn]

Did they improve the distribution at all or

[carmine roost]

Fck would we know

She's not even out in CN

[fluid gulch]

No more orb rng bs

[carmine roost]

[cobalt prawn]

Oh yea ig we don’t rly know lmao

[peak halo]

Should be homeless

[cobalt prawn]

Our days of foresight are over

[carmine roost]

Just wait till release and see everyone's cooking

[cobalt prawn]

Idt I’ll be able to retire Qu regardless

Ayla S0 no sig

[carmine roost]

Brick

[peak halo]

Mine atleast ss0 r2

[young badge]

me ayless

[carmine roost]

thx to free anniv pulls I can SSS teddy

[peak halo]

And quless sig

[young badge]

[carmine roost]

Weird way to say "free reso"

[young badge]

my days of quless sig is over

[peak halo]

[cobalt prawn]

I hope Alpha kick Qu out

Or maybe Kamui

Desert theme with greatsword is obv ice attacker right?

Kuro logic

[peak halo]

Or rosetta will be wanna try the attacker role on ice

But donno kuro is a inpredictable yet

Even teddy get ice with the most lightning tame

[verbal forge]

[peak halo]

Free money
<@&595893856554319873>

[plain oyster]

Where free money

[fluid gulch]

Nooo, I needed that money

[peak halo]

Only for mods

[verbal forge]

They are doing solo chats now?

[fluid gulch]

Vera's new coating won't buy itself

[verbal forge]

Fate will buy you

[plain oyster]

Its gacha trust

[fluid gulch]

In Fate we trust

[shy jackal]

Frfr

just like how I got 3s liffu from fate in 84 pulls

[rotund fox]

Noooo

@verbal forge why did you remove it?

i need pulls you villain

oh wait you're not mods

Ezra fault then

screw you Ezra

[carmine roost]

[stuck berry]

Which weapon should I choose?

[carmine roost]

Can't say for sure

It's better if you can provide img all the 6* weapon that you own in the item menu

[verbal forge]

Share Huaxu

[carmine roost]

Even Huaxu ain't gonna help much

Unless you're willing to check each character if they have 6* weapon or not

[verbal forge]

Im touching them all

I know ill find a quick homeless

[carmine roost]

Woah there chill

Do they give consent at least?

[wanton hatch]

woah wehl selector

[stuck berry]

I have 5 more spins to get Selena at nor banner (I also have enough skulls to upgrade her to SS)

[carmine roost]

[verbal forge]

Share the link can't see nothing like this

[verbal forge]

Some yes
-# i need more gift

[stuck berry]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/13355818/characters

[barren plank]

Nuke im sorry for being annoying but can I have ur help

[noble zinc]

later will do wz

Keep it

[verbal forge]

Its either vera Geiravor or epitaph, do you still have selector? The free one

[carmine roost]

It would have been easier for the weapon selector if you will to show the weapon menu

[barren plank]

[crystal rune]

Wata should never be considered over Vera

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[wanton hatch]

[verbal forge]

Then vera it is

[stuck berry]

I only have one left

[verbal forge]

That paid one you showed right?

[stuck berry]

[verbal forge]

The other one you used on luna

[stuck berry]

[verbal forge]

Its still good dw, at least it was not wasted on a low gen character

[stuck berry]

So who should I get the weapon for now?

🤔

[carmine roost]

Lmao

[verbal forge]

Vera or selena

Next patch is free so you can try get another weapon

[wanton hatch]

selena

[carmine roost]

vera cuz his wata is sigless

[wanton hatch]

[noble zinc]

@cold walrus phy lao what wave this time for phy 3s inv

Asia

[stray siren]

[crystal rune]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-dexter-doakes-meme-dexter-doakes-sergeant-doakes-gif-11042015775056095337

[dreamy pelican]

[noble zinc]

Wave 43 seems it

13+ seems

Phy

[drifting cipher]

First try after getting Liv to ss3 probably doing her rotation wrong but already an improvement

[rancid cloak]

hi i just got solacetune's sig weapon, what harmony should i use on her

[noble zinc]

What rank your

[rancid cloak]

double S

SS, not SS3

[noble zinc]

Changuizi patton go for now

Patton harmo

Top attack bottom class

[rancid cloak]

ok

tq

once i reach SS3 will i need to change this build to smth else?

[noble zinc]

Warzone it's classic

Ppc always changes

Thats upto need

[rancid cloak]

i see, tq

[noble zinc]

[drifting cipher]

Do we think this will update with newer weapons or stay at Bianca’s

[normal sierra]

if it doesn't explicitly states that it will update with later patches, then it won't

[barren plank]

99% sure it stays as is

Cause it's a limited time selector

[wanton hatch]

I got timed out for trying to send the same gif as Nuke

[steady otter]

What am i doin

[wanton hatch]

aboose

[barren plank]

Whel activities

[wanton hatch]

[steady otter]

Its worse

Blue + atk still better

Wasting mats for nothin

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944802613378035733/976328729821339669/A7DE3942-7CD6-4863-95C2-70189BE26570.gif

[limber yoke]

whel spendings

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205201024596316172/1408031681574866964/togif.gif

SSS pet will help for sure

Imagine having S+ cons but pet still SS

[crystal rune]

Where Darwin

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[daring magnet]

Selena bottom reso sig or core?

[graceful summit]

Core

[noble zinc]

Wdym?

[wanton hatch]

tried sending this here and got a 5min timeout

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[limber yoke]

wher nitro

[crystal rune]

I ate it

[limber yoke]

nitroless

[crystal rune]

Wher your nitro

[median shell]

[cobalt prawn]

My NanaGOATTTT

[daring magnet]

Oh god

I can't get hypertune mats from the sim shop?

[wanton hatch]

nope

[verbal forge]

Dorm shop

[hazy sandal]

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936952109612552192.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worryEggplant

[cobalt prawn]

jesus christ thats a lot of reacts

[daring magnet]

What?

Oh im saved

[cobalt prawn]

This setup correct for burn?

Wait no, Vera run dv

[dawn cloak]

[verbal forge]

Dam homeless r1

[cobalt prawn]

yea I can r2 her but idk

[dawn cloak]

Mine R3
5* sig R3

[cobalt prawn]

I wanna get all the amps to r2 first

[graceful summit]

Homelesslao

[crystal rune]

Matrix is ass

[cobalt prawn]

Incan better?

Or what

[verbal forge]

Save for teddy skip vero

[crystal rune]

Ye

[dawn cloak]

Worst lol

[cobalt prawn]

I see conflicting info

[dawn cloak]

But eh, R2 ur amp first

Matrix on Nana is ok for ppc
For warzone, matrix always ass

[cobalt prawn]

So on vero since Vera has sar+GS, I should go…

[dawn cloak]

And incan is the R3 options, like "when u have nothing better to put" option

[cobalt prawn]

Incan?

Or GS on her too

For 100% uptime

[crystal rune]

Share the same cooldown

[cobalt prawn]

Bruh

[dawn cloak]

Doesnt Vero dps need dlt? Or she doesnt?

[cobalt prawn]

No

Just double ult

Actually lemme see

I haven’t tried with sss nana yet

[dawn cloak]

Yea then incan is ur best choice
Just cuz theres no better choice

[cobalt prawn]

I think nana cannot run dd actually she needs dlt

Ugh maybe I do r2 her after all but it’d literally just be a burn buff

[dawn cloak]

[carmine roost]

Vero only casting matrix once bro, incan better it'll buff both her ult2 and yellow hold

[dawn cloak]

So rich he SSS Nana 🐳

[dawn cloak]

Yea for sure, its just missing context

Hope it buffs the burn DoT too

[crystal rune]

No one’s using vero in ppc or IB burn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[cobalt prawn]

Context is here @dawn cloak ignore my Vera build that was for Darkflow it got pasted over

[dawn cloak]

I knew it that Kj was trolling

Also didnt know KJ was secretly a CC

[carmine roost]

Damn

[dawn cloak]

Btw GA is worse than incan for Vero burn warzone?

[wanton hatch]

waht

[crystal rune]

What ga she doesn’t have ga

[wanton hatch]

Vero ga

[dawn cloak]

Oh right

[dreamy pelican]

[dawn cloak]

Fk I forgor shes an amp

[cobalt prawn]

HOLY CRAP she’s OP wtf

[limber yoke]

looks kinda low

[wanton hatch]

test her out in lightning

[cobalt prawn]

Onetap with some messed up rots btw

This is hero

[limber yoke]

im hero too

[cobalt prawn]

Before I had Vero/wata/dante, ss3 with 3S wata

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah 100% I’m pushing way higher lmao

This zone is my only hope

[dawn cloak]

SSS Nana makes her ult deals more dmg at 5, 10. 15, 20 burn stack
So now u need to pay more attention to burn stack

[drifting cipher]

Am I ruining my runs by not running her on Heisen? I built her day 1 when I didn’t know her sig memory sucks below SSS😭

I feel like I wasted so many hypertune mats

[dawn cloak]

Just SSS her, to make it feel less suck

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[wanton hatch]

why stop at 3s?

S+

[cobalt prawn]

Hmmmm ok. How does that translate to changes in gameplay?

[verbal forge]

Holy whell

[crystal rune]

Still feels weak at s+

[limber yoke]

why stop at s+?

own the game

[cobalt prawn]

Like timing qtes differently?

[graceful summit]

K whel

[drifting cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[dawn cloak]

You'll cringe or suffer when seeing her ult at non 20 stack now
Below SSS her own dmg doesnt care for burn stack

[limber yoke]

technically u do

[glass edge]

banana can carry ignition?

no Vero haver's question

[deft rock]

did they buff the boss or somethign I don't remember gwynplaine being this tanky

[dawn cloak]

Just classic solo Nana

Or u know, just play lightning bro lol
Got Liv and all

[dawn cloak]

No he same squishy fatso

[glass edge]

true, just that ignition ppc sometimes

[crystal rune]

It doesn’t exist

[dawn cloak]

Its only IB anyway

[glass edge]

wut then I might have been mistaken

[dawn cloak]

Affix ppc only 3 so far
And its becoming rarer

Plasma used to appear kinda often, but not anymore

[glass edge]

im just afraid of when they force us to do affix warzone, i remember that we had one 2 weeks ago,

[dawn cloak]

Glacio drakflow?
Well theres always a 2nd options

[glass edge]

idk about how they pair em up

[round lake]

Coward Kusogames didn't even add new affix bosses

[dawn cloak]

Bro, they didnt even add new ice ppc boss

Teddy patch and all

[round lake]

May be they're waiting to make a new slop affix for Alpha so they can make a boss

Just like when they made one for Virgin

[dawn cloak]

Even the scammy Veroniga got one new boss
~~ tho its to compensate Selena tbh ~~

[glass edge]

pog

[crystal rune]

It’s to compensate worgil

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[round lake]

Wym new boss, such thing doesn't exist

[dawn cloak]

No I mean, when Selena debuted, theres no new phys ppc boss. Skych was for Hanying

[crystal rune]

Nah idk what you mean

[dawn cloak]

Right, Chiko is deleted from existence

[crystal rune]

Chiko is worgil boss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1001441554239590450.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=WorryGoose

[dawn cloak]

true

[round lake]

Everything is Worgil boss tho

Whats the difference

[crystal rune]

Everything is a Luna boss

[glass edge]

ssheesh forgot to do Norman, was so busy

[carmine roost]

We never have forced to play one specific affix in warzone

There's always the other stage

Or just use the base element of the affix to bruteforce it

Lightning in Plasma, dark in Darkflow

[round lake]

Fire Tank Rosetta confirmed

[distant wren]

[glass edge]

base element score would be low tho :<

rosey huh

[tender vigil]

tf ice bg in pv

[glass edge]

I want Kamui...

[tender vigil]

then fire on release lul

[orchid owl]

Better than off ele

It's just the way it is

[vital nova]

imagine rosetta being fire with glacio affix

[glass edge]

keeping herself warm when needed

[slate gull]

i can keep her warm instead

[wanton hatch]

[dreamy pelican]

there were multiple instances of ts burn

[orchid owl]

[maiden sparrow]

what can I do to save my account? im returning

[wanton hatch]

don't bother getting old units and just focus on new ones

[maiden sparrow]

oh no I been had them high from like

2021 or smth idk

who do I am for?

[graceful summit]

There's no saving that acc there

[wanton hatch]

Liv sig cub, then newer ones

[round lake]

The only way I can see it possible is 🐳

[wanton hatch]

can, with patience that is

[normal sierra]

3 years and it will be up to date, no prob

[round lake]

Liv is trash without Nanami

[graceful summit]

Probably 3 years

Karen lives for 3 years so

[wanton hatch]

3yrs not much of a problem

[maiden sparrow]

so basically just delete account is what you're saying

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-13481320143050343709

[round lake]

Make a new account is better yes

[wanton hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-burger-gif-3426560742319433332

[graceful summit]

Nah you can keep it if too lazy

[normal sierra]

with new acc at least you have all the one time rewards to get

[wanton hatch]

ew new account

[round lake]

Within 2 days I can make a better account than that

[crystal rune]

K whel

[normal sierra]

your only up to date char is new liv, everyone else is dorm chibi material by now

[graceful summit]

By

[wanton hatch]

Pengu on his way to whale a new account

[maiden sparrow]

oh boy

how do I delete acc now

cause I wanna free my email

to link it to a new one

[round lake]

The only way is to contact Kusogame and hope they unbind it for u

[median spade]

start a new account

[round lake]

Just a question but do u still have a lot of permanent contents like story

[maiden sparrow]

yes

[round lake]

Which chapter are u at

[maiden sparrow]

like

[crimson swan]

can anyone help me to clear ib, i dont have the top team and my fire team is weak

[maiden sparrow]

chapter 12

[median spade]

can anyone help me to clear ib, i dont have the top team and my fire team is weak

[round lake]

If the account is still fresh enough, u can still continue grinding as if it's a new account

[verbal forge]

It will take time for account deletion to be processed, just use a different email

[stiff elm]

should I SSS oblivion

[crimson swan]

wait pak i forgor you know me

[median spade]

i am everywhere and nowhere

[round lake]

Nah save for Teddy

Who even play Nihil now

[crimson swan]

[round lake]

[normal sierra]

these server hoppers just come and go

[crimson swan]

ok but help me clear ib pls

[median spade]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-punishing-gray-raven-liv-pgr-pgr-liv-pgr-liv-im-inside-ur-walls-gif-27451765

[maiden sparrow]

alright just made a new account guys! lets see how this goes

[crimson swan]

im new

[normal sierra]

press the buttons. and then press faster. should work, trust

[median spade]

you do the shing shing with vera

[orchid owl]

What region

[median spade]

the pew pew with wata

[stiff elm]

when feral in vouchers...

[maiden sparrow]

NA

[crimson swan]

me ss0 players she do no dmg

[stiff elm]

I just want SSS feral so I at least have an excuse to use her ult

[crimson swan]

[round lake]

She's dead, u gotta let her go

[stiff elm]

feral free skin when.

[stiff elm]

I cant 😭

[normal sierra]

new #21 comes instead of alpha
alpha lost on her way to the clothing store

[round lake]

My human invest Feral can still cope

[normal sierra]

look at those sss+ chars, giga whel 🐳

[round lake]

I whel for full S+ A rank

[orchid owl]

S+ pulao is crazy work

[analog egret]

cerberus enjoyer i see

[orchid owl]

Even I didn't brick myself so much with Roland

Don't you have all the nanamis S+?

[round lake]

I used to run Pulao double mom team and full Cerberus team back in the days

[orchid owl]

[normal sierra]

the s+ nana guy is Sushi

[round lake]

I do have full S+ Nanami

[verbal forge]

Check gen help sent you copy pasta

[normal sierra]

s+ Pulse

[round lake]

Probably my biggest brick that turned out to be gud because Startrail is such an account saver

[crimson swan]

rank 60

im new

[normal sierra]

deleting that 9 from the start

[barren plank]

Save vouchers for Teddy

[sour silo]

🚮

[carmine roost]

Skin tissue

[steady otter]

literally me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/438940199104544778.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[carmine roost]

Cappin'

[rose yew]

Relatable

[median shell]

[chilly trail]

[graceful summit]

[forest wind]

Man, playing with Qu-less ice team is giving me pre-Liv nightmares

Start Ayla > swap Wanshi > despair > OMG 3m score because faq mob warzone

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[limber yoke]

global buff

[noble zinc]

they forgot nice

[steady otter]

ssshhhhh

[steady otter]

hahaha

[crystal rune]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-dexter-you-give-me-the-creeps-you-know-that-truthparadox-doakes-gif-2260767060581023552

[steady otter]

no one saw that ok

[hazy sandal]

I lost the popcorn scenery?

[median shell]

What popcorn scenery?

[carmine roost]

Popcorn without pco

[rotund fox]

Pcorn?

oh without pco

rn?

[carmine roost]

Don't ask me

It's gone before even i come

[noble zinc]

Paking mob

Wanshi be hitting one at a time

[peak halo]

Yeah

[cold walrus]

Bruh eu is so terrible. W39 only 9.9m

[median shell]

[peak halo]

And in hero
W64 is 11.3m

[trim apex]

Lao I kneel🛐 I gave up malding phy mobs I do same rot perfectly but mob decides to move 1 cm and miss my whole combo

[noble zinc]

No that delulu run

[noble zinc]

Mald ice

Bettwr

[trim apex]

Wanshi Vera swap

Luna afk

[halcyon lodge]

how to mald triple mobs wz

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[trim apex]

That’s the neat thing, you don’t

[compact fern]

ss3 liv 23s cradle not bad

prolly can 19 with 3s nana

[carmine roost]

Login wz > play every stage besides burn once > close wz > sleep

[steady otter]

Login > misclick open bracket at monday > worry about the other 14 player > nvm chill beacket > slacking

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1441159170576482345/ADE22DA1B39190F49E08AF6DF40DE3A6.gif

[keen plume]

Login > uninstall pgr >

[halcyon lodge]

[tacit tiger]

Why my half baked hypertune ss3 dante sigless deals damage than my nanami full hypertune with domain deconstruction?

[carmine roost]

Why not

[wanton hatch]

[orchid owl]

Wouldn't echo be better than ayla for ice?

[fading kestrel]

leap-affix-units do not buff the parent element. only the affix
same as wata only shredding darkflow and not dark

[orchid owl]

So why wata in dark with darkflow

[fading kestrel]

units that have affixes innately can buff the parent element (see nanami in fire)

[fading kestrel]

he isnt

[orchid owl]

He was

[fading kestrel]

he can be, since he has constant shred uptime and an easy-to-get SSS
but he cannot shred dark either way

[orchid owl]

How shred if can't shred

[fading kestrel]

he still gives edr and allat.
but no dark shred

[orchid owl]

So why run wata in dark wz

[fading kestrel]

i just told you

[orchid owl]

But wouldn't ish or teneb be better

Or S scire

[fading kestrel]

wata leap enables 100% uptime through his qte
so stuff like bathlon is extra value

[rose yew]

[fading kestrel]

same reason why you would sometimes see nana in dark

[orchid owl]

Only time I saw that was when lamia got powercrept by lilith

And oblivion was right there

[fading kestrel]

nope, works without oblivion
obviously needs specific builds, but that is a genuine strat

[orchid owl]

And what about glaciation in ice

Would that work

Better than ice team?

Same invest

[compact fern]

if u dont have 233 dont bother glacion in ib

just do light/plasma and fire

[orchid owl]

33.13

[compact fern]

ye glacio works then

[orchid owl]

I am talking about war zone doe

[compact fern]

ohhh
wz is bricked lol

[fading kestrel]

(1) this is watas class passive. this is effective regardless of element
(2) thats watas Core Passive. his actual shred. this can be changed into Darkflow shred in the mode, but not into dark shred.
(3) Firepower bulwark is the aoe-bombardment that leaped wata does on qte. that also triggers all the previous methods of shred. however it can also trigger the Bathlon mem set.
using wata in dark loses you (2), but since he has 100% uptime in (3), he can still be used with proper execution

[compact fern]

highly doubt glacion scores well in ice zone

[orchid owl]

Yeah I got all that

I know
I didn't know that affix doesn't shred element

So could glaciation be better than ice?

[fading kestrel]

non. glaciation still gets hit with the 0.3x Off-element penalty

[orchid owl]

We need teddy quickly

Ayla so fkin ass

[limber yoke]

wym

shes there to be qte bot

theres no field time

[orchid owl]

I rotate w/ ayla because there is downtime between wanshi and shukra

If 1.5 rot

And wanshi sometimes doesn't get orbs because of mob zone

So ayla gives +1 with lingya

[limber yoke]

is ur wanshi below 3s

[orchid owl]

no

Sss3

[limber yoke]

then ur qu is non sig?

[orchid owl]

Referring to qu

[orchid owl]

No

[limber yoke]

wat

[orchid owl]

2.13.13 112 111

[compact fern]

wut u even doing

[limber yoke]

why even bother 1.5 rot qu

[compact fern]

theres no ayla swap in ice

[limber yoke]

just do 2 rot

[orchid owl]

Faster

[compact fern]

lol

[orchid owl]

Instant ult on swap-in

[compact fern]

better than ayla

[orchid owl]

Ok there's still the orb gen issue I mentioned

[compact fern]

no orb issue for 2 rot

[limber yoke]

bro i run dltless wanshi

he has no orb issue

[compact fern]

wanshi doesnt need dlt yeah

qu needs

[orchid owl]

Same and I run out of orbs since I do 12 -> 18 -> 12

[compact fern]

qu 2 rot zero orb issue lol

[limber yoke]

what even is that rot man

[orchid owl]

Mathematically correct stacking

[compact fern]

[limber yoke]

he should do 12 > swap > 18 > 30 > 12

for 3 rot

[orchid owl]

That's what I do

[limber yoke]

then wheres the 30

[compact fern]

kekw

[orchid owl]

Why mention 30 when it's reset

[limber yoke]

ok

but do u need to 3 rot everytime?

it depends

[orchid owl]

To not waste yes

[limber yoke]

sometimes u do 2 rot

[orchid owl]

Is it effective all the time? Probably not

[carmine roost]

R u doing it every rot?

Lmao

Ofc you'll ran out of orb

[orchid owl]

Then what

Am I supposed to do

[carmine roost]

Just 30 12

[wanton hatch]

[orchid owl]

30 12 wdym

[wanton hatch]

orbless wanshi

[carmine roost]

18 30 6 is the common 3 rot

But that's not always the case

[compact fern]

never had orb issue on wanshi

[carmine roost]

You can use it if 30 12 has sht threshold

Otherwise, if 30 12 doing good, roll with it

[crystal rune]

I mean

You don’t

[carmine roost]

30 12 has enough time to swap into qu once you done with wanshi, doing 3 rot also takes the final swap time cuz longer

[orchid owl]

So what, 12 24 12??

[carmine roost]

30 is literally swap in with 12 stack, do airborne utl with 30 stack and do 12 bullet screen ult for 2nd rot

Why 12 24 12

[wanton hatch]

[orchid owl]

That's what I'm asking

You didn't explain if it was red orb or hold ba

[limber yoke]

whered u get 24 stack from

[carmine roost]

You have no reason doing that when 30 12 is significantly easier

[icy otter]

Just put the recorded vid in the bag bro

(I need it)

[orchid owl]

12 + 12

[wanton hatch]

[orchid owl]

2 bullet ults

[carmine roost]

Airborne ult is hold ba, red orb is screen ult

(You already know this)

[orchid owl]

Ik but they give different amounts and take different times

[carmine roost]

It just 2 rot ult with both ult variant and you just swap out afterwards

Nothing more

[wanton hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hoy-yoda-star-wars-gif-13754252

[orchid owl]

You could reach 30 from 12 with hold BA or do 12 for 24 and basically insta cube on next swap in

That's what I was referring to when I asked how, which method

[limber yoke]

24 is a waste

theres no merit to it

[carmine roost]

I think an example would make it easier to expand

https://youtu.be/2JbkEsZZICU?si=GDIoaMb5xBGJyzKV
This run has constant 30 12 stack rot on wanshi

[limber yoke]

https://youtu.be/2tU_Q569XCU?si=CNpD71l3cFnw2OsY

[carmine roost]

If you're wondering how it actually looks like

[limber yoke]

damn thats a low ice score from the past

[carmine roost]

Lmao

The other video has mixed 3 rot, so I kinda lazy to use that

Quick search

[limber yoke]

mixed ulting is better

[carmine roost]

That's true

[compact fern]

so much learning 3 rot wanshi doubt will be used when teddy drop anyway

[carmine roost]

Inb4, it's still used cuz you bench qu

[compact fern]

pretty sure u dont bench qu before 3s teddy no

[carmine roost]

God knows which invest that you bench which

[compact fern]

i hear 444 still use qu lol as dv holder

works better than anyla

[carmine roost]

There is 0 public testing for any reference point on global to make a solid point

Besides 444

Fck whel

[crystal rune]

444 is the only thing that matters

[compact fern]

tbh im happy enough if qu is demoted to one rot

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1445249568580042883/1203607069719269427.gif

[carmine roost]

5* qu viable pog

[limber yoke]

nitroless

[crystal rune]

Where your nitro

Send the gif again

You wont

[wanton hatch]

[limber yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1422649081809076265/1424427306478211193/km_fastrun.gif

[compact fern]

its fine
people will cook stuff themselves depending on what invest they have

[wanton hatch]

testers run 444 can't really compare

[dawn cloak]

*new slap emote

[median shell]

[median shell]

Cool emotes

[wanton hatch]

Hanyawn

[carmine roost]

Meanwhile when globlul cooks:

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-raw-its-fucking-raw-gordon-ramsay-raw-raw-fish-gif-23700556

[wheat helm]

i don't fully get washa yet. i hit the yellow orb then charge and shoot and switch? i don't get how QU gets ults a so quickly

[carmine roost]

Don't fully what

[wheat helm]

i don't fully understand how he works, i'm trying the team right now hence why i'm making so much typos

[carmine roost]

U mean wanshi??

[wheat helm]

yes

[carmine roost]

You can probably head to Celica class and play both wanshi and qu tutorial first to make it easier understanding what's going on in the video

Explaining with text without example/gameplay could be more confusing

[wheat helm]

i had them for a bit but never tried the "meta" way before, waited until i got them into ss

[buoyant hornet]

The opposite actually lol

At least during beta run testing they found 3ult wanshi to be better throughout the full run

Only issue is without dlt it becomes an issue and you have to either do zaza or be forced to do 2ult occasionally

[orchid owl]

That is crazy

New unit worse than wanshi

[buoyant hornet]

It's because teddy has a passive mechanic where every ult used by a teammate gives her 1/3rd of the energy needed to ul1

So 3ult wanshi allows her to insta ult1 on entry

[buoyant hornet]

She isn't worse at all

[orchid owl]

So what's the problem

[buoyant hornet]

.

[orchid owl]

Wasn't it said she is lackluster in performance

[buoyant hornet]

In v1 yeah she was horrible

[carmine roost]

The problem is the priority is pretty vague because it's was only words to words info

[buoyant hornet]

Buffed a lot in v2, nerfed in v3, buffed even more in v4

So yeah v4 is her best iteration so far

[orchid owl]

[buoyant hornet]

Let's hope they don't gut it in the transition to live release

[orchid owl]

What are they basing the balancing on?

[carmine roost]

even if they don't, global cooks probably burnt it on live anyway

[buoyant hornet]

But yeah there's ice runs with ss0-ss3 teddy that are scoring way higher than ss0 qu

7m-8m on mob zone

Emphasis on ss0-ss3 so that's not even with sss lol

[orchid owl]

Ezra posted a thing about teddy obtainment

[buoyant hornet]

Do you mean what we as players consider a buff or what kuro uses to make decisions?

If the latter, then kuro doesn't use their heads for decisions anymore

They use their toenail to think

[orchid owl]

If I am reading it right it's limited?

[buoyant hornet]

no

[carmine roost]

get a load of that guy

Was that deleted or ban

[buoyant hornet]

The event missions that make obtainment much faster are limited, not the entire thing

Like lilith

Obtaining lilith during her patch is way faster than after the patch

Where you need minimum 21 days to get everything lol

[orchid owl]

I didn't know that

But he did say limited banner, so phylotree or limited like normal?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah there was missions tied to the patch's events that give extra pulls to speed things up

I had to suffer through that dogass pulao trading event for this

on two accounts

I wanted to jump off a cliff

[orchid owl]

It wasn't that bad

Just took a bit of time

[buoyant hornet]

emphasis on the two accounts part

It took ages lmfaooo

[orchid owl]

I prefer that over the fake tetris minigame

[buoyant hornet]

I wanted to cry

[buoyant hornet]

I'd take the tetris one over the trading thing any day LMFAOOO

Even though that one got redundant too

[dawn cloak]

Should be enough to start learning imo
https://youtu.be/ZnZpPkgpXws?si=ZmVKaOVKNwfYqBVC

[buoyant hornet]

zex famous

[crystal rune]

sexous

[buoyant hornet]

polycule stays winning

[deft apex]

real af

[deft apex]

Ezra just smoking. Teddy is permanently obtainable for free, but during her patch it will be faster like feyer said
Debut banner wise she's normal banner

[carmine roost]

cant wait SSS teddy on 2026

[buoyant hornet]

I just wish they gave the 20 free shards too lmao it's really annoying she doesn't get that

Just stalls out her sss for no reason

[deft apex]

Ikr

Could've been 1 copy + 20 shards

[carmine roost]

You can get 30 instead of 20 tho

[deft apex]

But noooo

[carmine roost]

||💳 ||

[dawn cloak]

Its so we must pull her
Unlike Lilith which is completely free

[buoyant hornet]

Also lilith's free shards were a godsend for newbies, makes her ss0 practically free to get without a single skull

[dawn cloak]

Moar money for papa solon

[buoyant hornet]

Teddy should've been this way

[deft apex]

[dawn cloak]

Well, the whale hated Lilith banner
Cuz they got nothing to pull on
So kuro changes it

[buoyant hornet]

At worst for lilith you had to use the discounted skulls if you didn't have enough vouchers for 10 shards

[dawn cloak]

blame the whels

[deft apex]

No, people hated lilith banner cuz she was sloted in as the 4th consecutive S rank whales had to pull for

Using "had" very losely here

[buoyant hornet]

LMFAOOO

[deft apex]

[buoyant hornet]

I miss when characters were super hype meta-wise like lilith, nana, ishmael etc

Idk if we'll ever get that much impact again

Tbf part of their extra impact was just tied to them being good zaza units for teams that lacked new gen characters

[deft apex]

Yea, instead we get rip-off liv, not even an amp like she should be

[buoyant hornet]

The more new characters fill out the teams, the less room there is for that zaza

[dawn cloak]

New Alpha
Trust

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lmao oh well at least I sacced the sss so I can't complain much i guess

[buoyant hornet]

Accidental whale

[dawn cloak]

~~ fk whels ~~

[deft apex]

Wtf #🌞・trophy-room

[graceful summit]

K whel

[deft apex]

[buoyant hornet]

btw I'm not even kidding it was on one of my own accounts, both my accs are f2p lmfaooooo

[buoyant hornet]

Getting that sacc right after getting added to teddy bot as f2p/low invest ref is nasty work LMFAO

[dawn cloak]

Traitors to f2p smh

[deft apex]

Ur becoming the ss max ppc scores sheet

reads names
looks inside
ss3 and above, r2+

[limber yoke]

hey

[buoyant hornet]

LITERALLY LMFAO

[limber yoke]

im still ss

[buoyant hornet]

It was pissing me off bad 😭

[limber yoke]

invest

[buoyant hornet]

I'll still make ss0 liv videos in the future if wanted/needed

I won't betray my f2p comrades 🫡

[carmine roost]

How do you guys have the time to actually mald PPC

[buoyant hornet]

Idk

I mald it when I feel like it

[carmine roost]

I tried to mald PPC several times before

I keep malding until last minute cuz it took me so long for each stage 😭

[dawn cloak]

I guess ppc malding is shorter

Cuz u dont need to repeat a 2min malding in one sittings

2min which is actually 5min
The warzone

[carmine roost]

Someone borrowed me a SSS account in the past

I only managed to get the perfect time for 6 stages by the end of the week

[buoyant hornet]

It kinda is but kinda isn't

[carmine roost]

[buoyant hornet]

Depends on which boss and which team is involved

[carmine roost]

Maybe because that said SSS acc also BARELY have PPC set

[deft apex]

I mald ppc very loosely, wz I just wantap

[buoyant hornet]

There's teams where you mald just to map out a run as good as possible, some characters add the extra layer of unreasonably difficult inputs

[carmine roost]

I got burned out fast malding PPC lmao

[buoyant hornet]

Aka ishmael and selena

[buoyant hornet]

I was considering starting a new f2p ppc sheet and ask some other folks for help but like

"f2p invest" can mean literally anything

[carmine roost]

Lmao

[dawn cloak]

Yeah its plays very different once u get into the malding zone

[buoyant hornet]

It could be ss3 r1 lilith or sss r3 lilith

[deft apex]

Real af

[dawn cloak]

The infamous SS0 R3 invests

[buoyant hornet]

Those aren't even remotely close in performance despite both being f2p

[carmine roost]

"f2p ss Bianca run"

But SSS r3 Lilith and r2 Daren

[deft apex]

Just start f2p homeless invest

[buoyant hornet]

this too

[steady otter]

do my mado 7s

pls

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I can find someone with like the most baseline invest imaginable and use that

[dawn cloak]

It must be strictly SS0 R1
Or SS3 for someone like Lilith
Or just have both run examples

[dawn cloak]

Omg the pppc lao

[carmine roost]

SS3 or ss0 Lilith and even wanshi is kinda like myth at this point lol

Everyone already have SSS rank done already

[deft apex]

Yea something like everyone at ss, max r1 on units that would need it to function properly

[dawn cloak]

Almost lol yeah
At least I still have 1 acct with SS3 Lilith
Cuz I choose to SSS Wata instead

[carmine roost]

I don't actually know any person that doesn't have SSS rank wanshi/Lilith at this point

[buoyant hornet]

I mean ss3 lilith is still a thing for some people but it's not the real baseline anymore

[carmine roost]

that's 1 ig

[buoyant hornet]

Also I completely forgot to start the pgr meta lingo sheet with xav lmfao

[carmine roost]

ig building that alt on the last sync patch was worth it at the end

[deft apex]

Ngl I dont think anyone cares

I.e. Jeremy pinned message

[buoyant hornet]

Hmm I didn't even see that before due to how far back it was, maybe we should ask him for perm to post it in FAQ

Or he himself to post it

[fading kestrel]

i have been summoned

[clever gulch]

Hello
I have 3 weapon resos available, who should I use them on ?

Also hello fabio
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/27789662/characters

[fading kestrel]

oh snap

[buoyant hornet]

Hello genie

[deft apex]

Also like
"Oh btw what does r0 mean?" and then receive a link to dictionary like ain't no one reading that lmfao

[steady otter]

it depend on your invest actually
not all invest has tricky strat makes u mald to get the score

[deft apex]

Hi hi

[buoyant hornet]

Lowkey thinking of shifting away from the lingo idea for now and keeping it low prio

[fading kestrel]

no thats fair

[carmine roost]

Oh btw

[buoyant hornet]

ss0 liv ppc is so annoying

Thank goodness I won't have to deal with her ss0 forever

[carmine roost]

Do you guys have any burn video guide with Veronica?

I'm gonna be honest, I've played 0 burn till now

[steady otter]

yeah for ss0 liv, u need to mald more cuz that cons is stupid

[buoyant hornet]

Idk if there's a full on guide but there's a lot of runs across different invests

Veronica herself doesn't need a guide really

She's just either 2rot or 3rot depending on the teammates and nothing else changes

Just know the inputs

[dawn cloak]

Dang, its that bad?
Compared to Bianca SS0 how is it?

[carmine roost]

Damn

[steady otter]

for example this week, if you have low invest all SS0 team
trying to get 14s 15s chaos hell gwyn
that fast ult wata is your big wall

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah and nanami doesn't help much because of how backloaded her dmg is so ss0 liv is often just forced to rely on ishmael shenanigans

Nanami does have ways to cheese ult quickly but usually the damage is too low if you don't slam first lmao

[steady otter]

ofc +1 s no need to mald
same with wz if you got slack bracket

[carmine roost]

Dude

The thing about Liv is that

SS0 is so bland in rotation, she barely has wider variant to make score difference anything valuable between set/rotation

[wind hemlock]

is it better to get SS3 Liv or pull for Teddy next patch to get SSS faster, considering current beta?

[buoyant hornet]

btw what's minimum invest for 15s gwyn? I have ss r1 empy sss r1 wata ss0 r3 vera and currently my fastest run is 16s (because I need to do wata ult1+vera qte proc for her kit buff)

[buoyant hornet]

Don't pull on teddy unless you're a whale

[graceful summit]

Both
But ig pull for ss3 liv
Teddy can wait

[buoyant hornet]

Not worth it just be patient

[carmine roost]

You can eventually get SSS teddy with voucher, why rush

SS3 would make that 15k bc of your more worth

[dawn cloak]

SS3 Liv ngl
Teddy will just took 5months for SSS with 0 bc
~~ enough time to welcome the new Alpha ~~

[wind hemlock]

SSS+ unit?

[buoyant hornet]

We can get ss3 teddy within 10 days of her debut anyway

[wanton hatch]

wehl

[carmine roost]

Not like many SSS teddy players on day1 will actually know how to play her

[buoyant hornet]

The rest will take 2 more months but hey

[carmine roost]

You can beat most of them with ss teddy probably

Probably

(that considering you also know how to)

[wind hemlock]

[buoyant hornet]

v4 teddy scored really well even at just ss0-ss3

[carmine roost]

I mean yeah you can use score for reference

[wind hemlock]

Bold assumption I know

[carmine roost]

But have you seen the actual global players

You'll get like 4 to 5 malder, and the rest of 95 is just sitting watching

[dawn cloak]

You have Qu btw?

[fading kestrel]

should instead look more into that shop guide eh?

[steady otter]

unfortunately, idk for 15s hell
maybe henry know @normal sierra

[wind hemlock]

Yep, SSR1H1

[dawn cloak]

Way lower priority for SSS Teddy then
Just SS3 Teddy should be good

[slate gull]

im sitting and watching

[steady otter]

14s is ss3 pyro + vera ult

but on chaos

[dawn cloak]

15k bc is a lot
And SS3 Liv is actually good its no joke
Unlike SS3 Bonca

[buoyant hornet]

Oh true

[wind hemlock]

Alright, thanks for the answers, lads

[steady otter]

yeah idk man

ppc is always trial and error

cant say if i never try that invest

[dawn cloak]

Good thing ppc run is short

[steady otter]

yeah

[dawn cloak]

U dont need to sit 5 min just for one attempt

[buoyant hornet]

btw did you try ss0 luna (with leap) on trailblazer or no?

[slate gull]

some people mald ppc for hours

[buoyant hornet]

I was wondering if luna can do decently

[steady otter]

not yet

cuz this week has ephi

[clever gulch]

Is it better to put resos on Ishmael, oblivion, the new liv or crepuscule ?

[steady otter]

ppl using their ismael on ephi

ss0 player

[carmine roost]

It's good to put on liv compared to the rest of the option

[buoyant hornet]

Ye but ss0 luna shouldn't need ish no? Unless she relies on ish insta ult if luna's first off field tick can kill

[carmine roost]

But you should also remember that there is a dlt less rot for Liv too

Maybe others can use that reso better like vera, Lilith, or even hanying if you don't want to try dps vero

Still questionable at best in score/still in testing

[clever gulch]

I already have resos on some of these units, I have 1 on Lilith and 2 on geiravor

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936177367230058496/1445063286436401325/VN20251201_214426.mp4?ex=6932474f&is=6930f5cf&hm=09a1e30298408ce85904af2e1917f440a5e7f0a3be0939ffd7fa1c710ed578c3&

This is sss

Luna has regen sp skill on ss3 / sss ?

If no, then ss0 can do that too

[steady otter]

With wanshi SSS

And kaleido SSS

Hahaha

im not sure ss0 can kill chaos with that strat

[dawn cloak]

Luna with max leap doesnt need dlt anymore to function
R1 Liv then R1 Ish I guess
Dunno how much reso usb u have

Generally R1 attacker (if need dlt)
R1 anyone who needs dlt to function (like Vera dps)
R1 tank, then R1/R2 amps
Thats for minimum invest

[carmine roost]

"minimum invest"

[steady otter]

@buoyant hornet can u try this on ss0 luna

[graceful summit]

Human rights invest

[steady otter]

im curious

just dmg checking

[carmine roost]

Not that I remember any

[steady otter]

oh nice

[carmine roost]

SS3 is slight ult bonus
Forgor sss

[steady otter]

man i hate reading

[carmine roost]

Yeah

SS3 is slight ult dmg and the finality mode

Sss more dmg overall

Idk if leap change anything on energy

[dawn cloak]

Same iirc
Makes the 300 core bar into 600
So more ult dmg

[clever gulch]

I have my acc a little bit above if you would be kind enough to look though it : #📨・meta-help message

[limber yoke]

sss is 100% edb

[clever gulch]

For now I'll put one on Liv and one on ish ig

[steady otter]

[limber yoke]

after ult

[dawn cloak]

Im lazy
Just use what I said as baseline on deciding future wp reso

[carmine roost]

Both ult counts?

[dawn cloak]

Isnt it the off field atk edb?
Or she already has that before leap

[limber yoke]

Ye offield

[steady otter]

same shi

[limber yoke]

After ult2

[steady otter]

idk man ss0 attacker role now days looks like shi

start from midanca

[carmine roost]

Oh leap

[dawn cloak]

If SS0 Bonca still so bad at raydiance, lowkey I'll skip her forever lol
Unless maybe leap happened

[steady otter]

look on IB right now

[clever gulch]

Which resos do ish and Liv want ? Dlt for Liv, team attk boost for ish ?

[steady otter]

what ppl use

[dawn cloak]

Lightning lmaooooo

Well I mean after Teddy
If still bad then SS0 Bonca cant be saved

[carmine roost]

Ish can use almost every useful reso cuz observer class, just change it to whatever u need

[steady otter]

SSS+ bonca still didnt help

maybe teddy will help her

[carmine roost]

Gaydiance rot too long man

[steady otter]

yeah

[dawn cloak]

Ish is flexible
DD when shes a tank (or amp but ur tank dont have dd)
SAR as an amp

[carmine roost]

Can you even do multiple rot like dark on SSS above with gaydiance??

I've never seen one

[steady otter]

2x

on ib long time ago

[carmine roost]

Imagine teddy gaydiance main dps

[dawn cloak]

Nah, almost no dmg ngl
Its like Lilith, maybe worse

[steady otter]

i hope teddy can do that too

it will be unique run

like echo dps

just for fun

[dawn cloak]

Echo glacio dps is crazy lol
Well she actually works she deals decent dmg

[steady otter]

yeah but not for competitive

[limber yoke]

tbf s+ lilith can do pretty good score on veronica

[steady otter]

oh nice

all i know is knight one shot

[limber yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004156305314947222.png?quality=lossless&name=worrybj&size=48

[steady otter]

how much her score on chaos & hell

i never try that tbh

[dawn cloak]

What I hate from plasma is, when u switch to non plasma unit, your orb immediately turn off

Making Lilith + Nana swap is not viable at all

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/phrolova-gif-1119392749854539790

[buoyant hornet]

ye or with any ss0 new gen amp (even veronica should work since she enters fire amp mode permanently if you just set the team affix to ignition)

[steady otter]

can u try it pal

just for dmg check

[buoyant hornet]

Nope ss0 should have identical rotation funcionality to higher ranks afaik

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[wind hemlock]

[buoyant hornet]

It'll prolly only kill in knight but I'll try chaos just in case

[steady otter]

nice

im curious how much hp left

or minimmum invest to kill chaos

[buoyant hornet]

I'll lyk what the results are like

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/509259246798503936.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

im not trying any low invest this week
cuz my time kinda tight

[buoyant hornet]

@steady otter knight kills properly, 8s

trying chaos now

[chilly trail]

Ss3r1 chaos need lilith for 8

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-pen-ok-got-it-noted-gif-5849903637368710956

[chilly trail]

1 half bar left

[buoyant hornet]

lmao yeah doesn't kill chaos, 5 bars off

[steady otter]

what invest and the team

[buoyant hornet]

ss0 r1 leap luna S cub (afterglow), sss r1 wanshi 4chen 2ein 2glo, ss0 r2 veronica in fire amp mode 4dv 4guin