📨・meta-help

[glass edge]

Should i use ss3 wata over SS Ishmael? I think his darkflow got buffed a bit by Lilith and the zone at least

[spiral merlin]

Discord is doing nothing why is she there

o thats ss3 bianca too damn

[simple dew]

sss pyro or ss0 vera for shorthalt

[peak halo]

First use a tank intead discord
2nd and learn basic rotation for both bianca and lilith

[crystal rune]

Gee I wonder

[simple dew]

[remote fossil]

Just brute force

[simple dew]

ok but

[remote fossil]

Ish i guess

[simple dew]

sirius question

[crystal rune]

[remote fossil]

@crystal rune go answer

[crystal rune]

No

[simple dew]

[remote fossil]

Back being ppc malder

[young badge]

use wata

[crystal rune]

It should be obvious

[simple dew]

[peak halo]

Just vera 101010 ez

[young badge]

999

[crystal rune]

Just pyro 9/9/9 ez

Or oblivion 8/8/9

[young badge]

7 wher

[simple dew]

ss0 loona

[opaque ridge]

yowai, should aim for 7/7/7

[crystal rune]

Where kfc

[peak halo]

Im to skill issue for that

[opaque ridge]

i have kfc

[crystal rune]

Cn player

[opaque ridge]

kfc1

[spiral merlin]

i do 40/68/187

dasright

[peak halo]

[crystal rune]

[peak halo]

Its should be a full s0 5* team score

[tender vigil]

SS3 nana over SS3 ish, why?

[young badge]

yes

[tender vigil]

ish only worth at sss?

[dawn cloak]

Its dark team so discord not used
Go Lilith Bianca Ishmael/no.21 XXI

[remote fossil]

Ye, cus tank/amp that comes from gen2 dont have ss3 shred/buff for her to copy, it's gotta be useless

[dawn cloak]

Also Ish doesnt deal the correct element dmg outside nihil, while she seems to be used in many teams, shes only qte bot tier
While Nana isnt, she still deals good dmg on said teams (ignition and lightning affix variant)

[remote fossil]

She can only copy ss3 shred/debuff from wata, nana, wanshi, vera and lilith only, which is only good for nihil zone

[tender vigil]

hmm if choosing to sss either, who to prio

or at this point better to wait for next phylotree xD

[dawn cloak]

SS0 Ishmael should still be better
Also Wata darkflow dmg is even lower than his fire dmg, legit almost no dmg
If you use SS0 Bianca SSS Lilith, give Ishmael 12 sec shred to Lilith instead, while Bianca only get shred from qte proc

If youre solo Lilith use Luna Nana Lilith, cuz Nana still good dmg

[dawn cloak]

Tbh yes xD

Several SS3 better than one SSS and other SS0

[remote fossil]

Selena and liv now that really benefits from ss3, nana just because of her usefulness while vero, she benefits from it but whatever

[tender vigil]

ayee, almost tempted to get another copy for ishmama

[dawn cloak]

Good thing magmadude isnt here xD

[remote fossil]

3s her then

[heavy marlin]

Got 23sec with 2.132 112 is this good enough?

[dawn cloak]

What IB?

[young badge]

21

[crystal rune]

18

[tender vigil]

send bc wel

[crystal rune]

Wait wtf 18 is 444 score

[dawn cloak]

Fk whel, you all whel

[young badge]

🐳

[remote fossil]

I dont care anymore about ib, just wantap now

[crystal rune]

Oh wait this is df

Nvm

[dawn cloak]

RIP

[crystal rune]

I thought this was ion

[dawn cloak]

Can df still do it tho
I heard the "fix" nerf her

[young badge]

espada 21 so 22

[crystal rune]

Nah Ônly for 333 it seems

[heavy marlin]

Espada has ss3 vera tho

[crystal rune]

Becsuse for 333 need to white before hold dodge

And that white misses

[dawn cloak]

Scam invest
2.3 but 333 reso

[remote fossil]

Ofc

[dawn cloak]

Dayum, RIP Liv

[crystal rune]

It’s harder but not impossible

[young badge]

surely not that big

[dawn cloak]

Well, better than she teleports to the next world

So 2 step ahead 1 step behind

[crystal rune]

Nah it’s big 23 good enough

[young badge]

[dawn cloak]

Fraud
How many returnee fished btw?

[young badge]

i have 9 now

[crystal rune]

I still have 0

[young badge]

my quest almost finished

pal whel

🐳

[dawn cloak]

You whel you see 3600 gacha tickets as peanuts

[remote fossil]

I still have none🥀

[dawn cloak]

HOLY

Even I got only 8
Bro is more lucky

[young badge]

i didnt even expect

[dawn cloak]

Spam advert like we talked about in general help

[young badge]

a lot of returnee

[dawn cloak]

Alot of silent returnee
No chatting

[young badge]

and not to mention i sent it like at 3 or 4 am typ sh

[simple dew]

i just invited my alt account

[dawn cloak]

Thats Kj's most active hour or smthing

[young badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1412696514182250496.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=toodalaotorelate

[dawn cloak]

3 alt acct?
Cuz need 3 for max rewards of 3600 tickets

[crystal rune]

I have 4

[tender vigil]

my returnees won't play wz lmao

[simple dew]

let me checc

[dawn cloak]

Surely on sunday
Well we fished like 7-9 so just need 3 of em to be that active

[dawn cloak]

[crystal rune]

[simple dew]

you only need to invite 1 slave returnee

[dawn cloak]

Uh uh nope

RIP 2/3 of the reward then

[simple dew]

1 person can do all 3 sets

[dawn cloak]

Got 3 accts or smthing

[remote fossil]

I have my very first pgr acc but i dont have any will to play pgr much anymore

So useless to use invitation

[simple dew]

i invited only my alt and all tasks are done except the logins

[dawn cloak]

Huh really? Just 1 alt?
Show

[simple dew]

[remote fossil]

U need to invite it early, i remembered doing this event with just my first acc but cannot finish it due to the time

[graceful summit]

How does for the first time even work tbh
When only one person doing them

[remote fossil]

But now, i dont want to repeat it anymore

Well it's kuro

[simple dew]

[remote fossil]

Just said like that but possible with only one acc

[simple dew]

me no complain

[graceful summit]

Kusogames smh

[dawn cloak]

[simple dew]

kuso cant even do a returnee event correctly

[dawn cloak]

Spaghetti code again?

[simple dew]

[graceful summit]

Either confusing line or it just not doing things as it should be

[dawn cloak]

But like, how tho? Still dont understand

[simple dew]

uts probably that multiple accounts can do 1 set at once

so 1 acc would need 45 ppc stages

but 3 would only need 15 each

or pure spaghetti 🍝

[graceful summit]

I mean that's what confusing about it
"For the first time" it said, but can be done several times
Kurogames just can't make something clear enough to understand

[simple dew]

yea kuso wording sucks

[sullen garden]

Can someone tell me how ss ish with 4div 4sig is better than ss nanaknight with 4div 4bath for dark war zone I tried using ish but nana gives better scores

[tacit tiger]

Too bad that qu will be no longer with us in general team

Reduce to ppc only

[simple dew]

already gone by wanshi

[dawn cloak]

Try browsing this channel for various dark tank alternative gameplay
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxbMgQtiJ5y08k6zI14GqRXXuO2Z1G0RKT?si=E9uC54GZNi93b1KV

[tacit tiger]

Nanami can do darkflow now?

Ohhhh

With Luna....

[icy otter]

Steve was dalao

I'm fraud

[pseudo wolf]

should i get ss3 bianca or selena

[simple dew]

selena

[graceful summit]

Selena
Her ss3 is top priority along with liv and nana

[crystal rune]

[karmic anvil]

no glow ppc yet

[chilly trail]

bitchslapp

[crystal rune]

[simple dew]

never

[limber yoke]

will

[dawn cloak]

IB new weather

[karmic anvil]

no point of playing Ib under SSS

[simple dew]

can you offelement ib

[crystal rune]

Yes

[simple dew]

why

[crystal rune]

Becsuse

[simple dew]

spelling mistake

[karmic anvil]

is glacio still used for off ele ?or kicked

[limber yoke]

off element for low invest

[crystal rune]

Nah

Worgil

[karmic anvil]

damn so selena ss3 still good

[waxen vine]

can anyone tell me epitaph build?

[hasty bluff]

i need advice

i have about 20k tickets(17k bc and 2k orange) there is a s rank selector rn , should i pull on it or save for future

[waxen vine]

did you get liv limpidity?

[waxen vine]

honestly i would suggest to save cus its gonna get harder to get new characters going forward

[round lake]

it depends on what else u have on ur acc

if u are still missing crucial chara like Vera Gay/Nana then it's worth the trouble

[dawn cloak]

Goated IB run not everyone can copy
#📨・meta-help message

[waxen vine]

i need the bot back jesus chat dead need epitaph build ....

[final fog]

4 alphonse 4 dv

[waxen vine]

right now need him has main dps so cottie?

[final fog]

Why main dps?

[waxen vine]

have not played for few months kinda forgot builds

cus in the account i am playing right now i only got him as fire xD

[round lake]

honestly speaking you should abandon Fire entirely without Vera Gay

[final fog]

You can get vera from blue ticket

[hasty bluff]

yes

[final fog]

Epitaph dmg isnt good as main dps

[hasty bluff]

i have newer charas i was thinking about ss3

[round lake]

I know everyone here said tank is the key member of all teams but he's just one of the weakest of his kind in term of DPS

[waxen vine]

save than

[round lake]

save better ye

[hasty bluff]

okie , thanks !

[hasty bluff]

will do! Thank you

[round lake]

we're looking at 3 upcoming S ranks, so much fun

[waxen vine]

alphonse goes top or einstina?

[hasty bluff]

kamui !!!!

[round lake]

oh damn Teddy bot didn't respond

[dawn cloak]

Teddy ded

Surely it revives when patch release

[waxen vine]

ngl i only came back to game this fast cus of new alpha or i was gonna go on atleast half year break

[round lake]

[waxen vine]

@round lake alphonse goes top or einstina?

[round lake]

best I can suggest for now is Alphone Cottie

Alphonse will be top in this case

[waxen vine]

ah kay

[round lake]

shouldn't actually matter much tbh

[waxen vine]

yeah i think so too

[waxen vine]

just need to do warzone on this account xd

[final fog]

Both have same base attack doesnt matter

[karmic anvil]

wtf bro deceived me into going g*n help

[waxen vine]

okay what build for wanshi lucid dreamer

[final fog]

4 liston 4 chen

[waxen vine]

thx

liston is up right?

[final fog]

Chen

[waxen vine]

kay and what about alisa echo build?

[final fog]

4 signa 4 dv for physical

4dv 4 guin for glacio

[waxen vine]

ah thanks ❤️

[final fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381997474792603700/1411883992000630784/GIF-250901_092239.gif

[orchid owl]

if I wanna 3S vera, and I currently have 5600 black cards and 970 yellow tickets (haven't bought the bp this patch) and she is already SS3, then should I pull 1 of her copies from blue banner and 1 from anni or buy S selector from shop and pull on blue banner, like what would be the optimal way?

[dawn cloak]

#whelplay-help 💀

[cobalt prawn]

I think S selector is cheaper than the BC required to pity anni banner

[orchid owl]

deadass

[cobalt prawn]

So I think blue + selector would be cheapest option here

[orchid owl]

I do want me skins

I wanted to buy nana skin since I didn't have enough for that last time, and lilith

[verbal forge]

600 rc it is

[orchid owl]

well I guess I'll just

[cobalt prawn]

I’m doing smth similar, gonna ss3 hanying from blue and then selector + anni to SSS nana

[orchid owl]

it wouldn't be enough

[remote fossil]

Save for new nanami coating?

[orchid owl]

I don't like it

[cobalt prawn]

Well, that’s the plan at least. I haven’t decided yet

[orchid owl]

it's like the candy knight but without the candy

[verbal forge]

What's you coin

[orchid owl]

still wanna get BP

the lilith + nana skin is like 360 and the selector is also 380 or something

[meager sleet]

396 iirc

[orchid owl]

yeah

[meager sleet]

~~whel harder ~~

[verbal forge]

If your € there's cheap options in lootbar

[orchid owl]

I use my national currency but lootbar is cheaper

what is there that is better?

I saw skin bundle

[verbal forge]

If i rc 600 and buy nana skin it will be 91€ for me

[cobalt prawn]

Guys the first recharge for BC reset

Is that ever worth

[orchid owl]

nope

or like barely

[cobalt prawn]

Cuz I think I put in calculator the BC:RC ratio still worse than all the bundle

[verbal forge]

Always bundles

[calm blaze]

For plasma on lilith memory. Should i use class skill on the lower resonance or core passive

[remote fossil]

Class

Her dmg succ

[orchid owl]

so are you saying skin bundle is cheaper than buying 600 RC and buying it in-game?

[cobalt prawn]

Omg I haven’t even malded WZ yet

[verbal forge]

I meant that for the bc question

[orchid owl]

o

[verbal forge]

It will depend on the ppl location, but it will still be cheaper

[dawn cloak]

Unless youre this person
#📨・meta-help message

[cobalt prawn]

Yomm gigawhel

That’s actually crazy btw

[crystal rune]

Tahts

Not

Him doing it

[verbal forge]

Lootbar rn has promo for the 600rc and skin bundle

[cobalt prawn]

Oh ok

[cobalt prawn]

It was YOU

[crystal rune]

No

I’m f2p

[buoyant hornet]

For mine it got copyrighted but it wasn't a strike

Like while uploading it notified me of that

It'll get marked as copyright but the owner won't strike it or affect viewership

[simple dew]

lilith leap pls

make her plasma good

[carmine reef]

Nope

You get daren leap 2: electric boogaloo

She's back in plasma now

[normal sierra]

[real jackal]

for madam monzano pain cage, what mem sets on Wanshi (SSSr1) and Alisa (SSSr3)?

[carmine reef]

I put dv cjy wanshi and guin eins glo alisa

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-joe-pesci-pesci-what-gif-10718026964868693743

[real jackal]

everyone loves the haato spider sticker

[pine slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243589397870542969/1429076278056714292/8iioy-8gppp.gif

[orchid owl]

@verbal forge I figured it out

------ OG ------
600 RC = 99.99$
6 RC/$

196 RC SFX skin = 32.66$

------ Lootbar -------
600 RC = 81.70$
7.343 RC/$

196 RC SFX skin = 26.69$ <--- BEST BUY

29.15$ Bundle SFX skin = 214.04845 =~ 214 RC

it's best if you recharge RC from lootbar and buy the skin in-game rather than skin bundle

if we go with 85.50$ pack (since the 81.70$ is exclusive to 6th anniversary)
Normal 600 RC = 85.50$

7.017 RC/$

196 RC SFX skin = 27.93$ <--- second best

[verbal forge]

I told you from the very start

[verbal forge]

[fluid gulch]

Why did I JUST learned about lootbar?

Damn, could've saved a lot of money

[orchid owl]

no you didn't

[orchid owl]

this says nothing

you didn't say how you were obtaining RC and the skin

didn't say region either

or rather your cost of individual items

[verbal forge]

I said from lootbar above no?

[orchid owl]

lootbar yes
and what did you buy from lootbar, skin? RC? both? either?

for me if I bought both from lootbar I'd end up with 101€

[verbal forge]

Just 299 rc

[verbal forge]

Thats a w

[orchid owl]

[orchid owl]

it'd be better for me to recharge more RC from lootbar and buy the skin in-game

as it stands the skin bundle is a scam

[glass edge]

I think and think but still can't figure out why Liv Limpidity's signature memory is made to be so bad

[orchid owl]

in fact the other bundles might be a scam too, just based on the very same fact

[orchid owl]

made to be or is?

[glass edge]

isnt it the same 😄

[orchid owl]

no, made to be implies that the creators intended for it

"is" is your inquiry/opinion

[crystal rune]

They didn’t intentionally make it bad

[glass edge]

i think they intended her to be sub dps maybe

[crystal rune]

It is just bad

[crystal rune]

That’s

Dumb

[orchid owl]

can you read her class for me please? and after that, look at the average team's main dps's class

[glass edge]

lul cuz I've never seen this in my 2 years of playing PGR

[orchid owl]

I might have to add: if the attacker is older than the other units this information is irrelevant

so just keep that in mind
but normally we have attackers as the main dps

[real jackal]

why do people use ish over feral in lightning now?

[orchid owl]

they have a higher invest

at same invest feral is the same, or better since she doesn't need to swap-in to ult and trigger the amp skillz

[glass edge]

i mean sub dps for the upcoming next gen lightning tank and lightning amp

not for the current gen lol

[orchid owl]

well of course that the new units will powercreep older units and then this might become a reality

[orchid owl]

there's no denying that

but attackers don't just release as a sub-dps

[glass edge]

her QTE dmg is extremely high at SS3 too

off field dmg is insane

[orchid owl]

like other attackers

(except cw)

[glass edge]

and the 4 heisen... perfect for sub dps...

[verbal forge]

It was at 23,99 than the usual, but then i saw the 299 rc looking at me and just picked that instead

[glass edge]

like its meant to be

[orchid owl]

so, geiravor is a sub-dps according to your logic

[crystal rune]

Yea sss liv compared to sss nana is sub dps alright

[orchid owl]

[crystal rune]

I mean

Both hold heisen

So are they both sub dps

[orchid owl]

exactly

[crystal rune]

[orchid owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574141075950665738/1427430458949632102/image1.gif

[glass edge]

Im just tryin to think why they made her signature memory worse than 4 heisen T.T

wasted potential

[orchid owl]

it wasn't intended to be worse
but it is worse

[glass edge]

the sig mem not even double 2nd ult dmg, its just double buff stacks effect

[orchid owl]

the idea was the same as other units
ult = big damage

[glass edge]

its not even double base ult dmg tho 💀

[orchid owl]

but the actual ult damage is locked behind evolution so the memory ends up falling off next to heisen which increases overall damage and shreds

[glass edge]

its rlly like Lilith's memory

[orchid owl]

but worse

[glass edge]

but worse yea xD

[orchid owl]

natasha:

so instead of 7.5% increase per stack
you supposedly get 15% increase per stack

[round lake]

If it was just ult dmg double like Lilith sig mem it would've been fine

[orchid owl]

and then idk if the 10% is also doubled or not

[round lake]

But this is just the stack effect

And apparently it's not even double dmg when factor in all her self buff

So yeah, this shjt so ass

[fluid gulch]

Does anyone have 333 plasma rot?

[orchid owl]

they need to buff natasha

[verbal forge]

Are they afraid to drop decent units

[young badge]

yes

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-know-the-heavy-is-dead-team-fortress-2-spy-gmod-gif-14290669460668422365

[orchid owl]

deadass

[crystal rune]

33455

[orchid owl]

ever since they dropped nanami it's been downhill (except vera)

here's hoping that vero was the low point

[young badge]

12345

[orchid owl]

what are the other 11 digits?

[round lake]

Yes, we've been getting mid after mid ever since Midianca

[verbal forge]

Bianca was the issue all along

[orchid owl]

don't forget fraudissimo

core passive uwu

[verbal forge]

[crystal rune]

Mid ever since Ishmael

[orchid owl]

ishmael is too good for this game

[verbal forge]

I 3s3 her so didn't felt a thing

[orchid owl]

I have her 3s but it's still bad

at least she does more damage

[verbal forge]

Tho she kills waves too quickly and then the rest of the attacks dmg go away

[orchid owl]

true that

vero start then

[verbal forge]

I meant in glacio, shes as a physical character lacks

[crystal rune]

Both lack

[young badge]

3s vera or 3s ish

[crystal rune]

Both

[young badge]

broke

[noble zinc]

Ask ken

[crystal rune]

[keen meteor]

Vera fr

[cold walrus]

3s ish must have if you ppc ib player, but 3s vera is overall better

[crystal rune]

[young badge]

owhh

[karmic anvil]

[median shell]

[crystal rune]

[bold ferry]

What's the rotation with solo nanami against cradle?

SS nanami r1
SS3 lilith r1
SS luna r0

[dawn cloak]

Half then full

[astral pond]

does dark bianca need her sig weapon?

[dawn cloak]

Nanami doesnt really have rotation variation lol

[bold ferry]

Idk what's wrong I'm taking too long to kill cradle

[dawn cloak]

Yes, but can take ur time
Liv's sig first if havent, cuz its limited

[dawn cloak]

20 sec hell is ok

[astral pond]

liv is fine now

unless her cub is also a must?

[dawn cloak]

Liv cub better take it, limited
And it buffs ult2 base dmg by 75% if not full stack, 150% if full stack

[bold ferry]

4 dv 4 guin lilith
Whats luna build?

[astral pond]

damn

aight

[bold ferry]

Samantha Gloria eins?

[astral pond]

how am I gonna manage my bc now... I need bianca sig weapon, liv cub, and ish coating

[bold ferry]

Basically don't pull ish coating if u r f2p

Bricking ur account for a coating is not worth it

[dawn cloak]

Luna 4dv 2eins 2gloria
Lilith 4guin 4sam, reso SAR
Nana reso DD

Or you prefer this instead?
~~ homeless ~~

[bold ferry]

Ok ill try that rn

[dawn cloak]

Liv kit are all limited time
Other unit arent
Also next patch fully free Teddy + sig wp + cub

[dawn cloak]

Anyway for Nana, theres really only half ult or full ult
Usual combo is 1 half + 1 full
If overkill try only 1 full
If not killed try 2 full
If still not killed just extend, add another full ult

[bold ferry]

Im scoring 310k on hell I need 330k to get 580k total
I tried alot i couldn't do it xD

[dawn cloak]

Qte timing then
Press both to activate dv when Nana is jumping in the air
So both her slam and ult got the buff

[bold ferry]

Nana build is 4 heisen 4 herschell?

[dawn cloak]

Yes
Also rot is 2x 3ping, yellow, BA till 195, hold BA (jumping), ult

[bold ferry]

I'm doing everything right idk what's wrong bruh

[round lake]

Lacking invest thats my best guess

[carmine reef]

you can do nana cottie and put heisen on a qte bot

[dawn cloak]

Sorry bro, I dont even know what to teach
Here video attempt
Homeless build btw, you should get better results

~~ forgive my 30 fps gameplay ~~

[bold ferry]

Your damage is much stronger than mine

I'm not understanding why

[dawn cloak]

Press both qte when Nana jumping in the air
So both her slam and ult gets all the buff

Pay attention to what Im pressing

[dawn cloak]

Pretend that CW is Luna
And Feral is Lilith

If still problem, show your Nana chara page then, maybe you forgot HT or something

[keen meteor]

missed luca slash

[chilly trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif?quality=lossless&name=dalao&size=48

[orchid owl]

homeless quality too

I respect the cw

[dawn cloak]

cw ~~ steal ~~ kills

[orchid owl]

do we have SSS cradle clear?

[dawn cloak]

I guess theres discord settings to not downgrade video uploaded
Like its compressed so much worse sometimes

[dawn cloak]

14 go
1 full solo Nana rot

[orchid owl]

I mean liv

sorry

[dawn cloak]

Go Windbell
Maybe have, dunno

Or he only SS3 SS0

[orchid owl]

nah he has "decent invest"

ss0

[dawn cloak]

Idea should be same
Solo Liv, Nana dv qte bot

But dunno video who

[orchid owl]

I got 12s with short ult rot + ult 1

idk if swapping over for liv qte would be better

probably not

[dawn cloak]

Need ish
Can try

[spiral merlin]

Ish dark strat should work just the same

[dawn cloak]

Start Nana, Liv, ends with Ish
To insta timestop

[spiral merlin]

Cause ish is the goat

[orchid owl]

OH RIGHT

I'm just dumbge

[dawn cloak]

Nice Ish glaze, dear helper
Appear so timely

[spiral merlin]

How could you not glaze ish

[orchid owl]

10s possible maybe

but it's really close

let me show vidya

[carmine reef]

helpers don't even help anymore, they just push agendas

[calm blaze]

Is Ishmael in dark team almost impossible to use without sig?

[slender scarab]

I couldn't resist the temptation and got the skin. -10k bc 🧱

[carmine reef]

it's not like it's impossible, but

it just wouldn't be very good

[calm blaze]

I meant almost unusable

[dawn cloak]

Gotta learn the ~~ homeless~~ 5* rot

[carmine reef]

i know. like i said, it's not impossible

the rotation works. it would just not be good

[dawn cloak]

Just use SSS Wata/Nana, less headache
4dv 4bathlon
Or 4dv 2eins 2glo, dunno which better this week cuz boss not mobs

[slender scarab]

Very unlikely for someone who doesn't have ish sig to have 3s wata/nana tbh

[dawn cloak]

Got cashback 700 gacha ticks
Only 9300

[calm blaze]

Nana with bathlon?

[dawn cloak]

SSS Off ele tank basically

[orchid owl]

here
just barely not 10s

[carmine reef]

well you wouldn't put bath on her unless you had sss bianca anyway

[dawn cloak]

Benefitting from -3 sec swap cooldown

[slender scarab]

if you count the weapon reso as 7.5k it's actully only 1.8k bc

[orchid owl]

is there room for 10s?

[dawn cloak]

Try pressing 1 pixel faster
Also what score is that? Why cut it lol

[orchid owl]

I just wanted to show run

no reason

[dawn cloak]

Maybe you get 10 sec score but 11 sec displayed

[orchid owl]

nope

I don't think

let me check

[dawn cloak]

90k
180k
360k
Are the 9 sec score

[orchid owl]

yea naw

[dawn cloak]

Oh, thats 11 sec

[orchid owl]

this is 10s

mine is 11

[dawn cloak]

Yea, 1k score per 1 sec

[orchid owl]

by a hair strand

there's wiggle room then you say?

[dawn cloak]

Just keep trying if wanna
Sometimes fps behave weirdly, so you get 10 sec

[orchid owl]

sure why not

THERE

literally second try

[dawn cloak]

[orchid owl]

randalllao

[dawn cloak]

Cuz cradle 5.25, so can 10.75 sec theoritically

[orchid owl]

yes sir

I mean S+ score also 10s

[slender scarab]

why overseer hell hp so random bro

[dawn cloak]

~~ S+ washed ~~

[orchid owl]

I think SS3 can also 10s then no?

idk how much benefits SSS has or if the QTE can kill the rest

[noble zinc]

SSS nana need for 10

[dawn cloak]

Dunno, I dont have knowledge for Liv 💀

[orchid owl]

oh

it's about the shred I see

[drifting cipher]

For Fire WZ, who would be considered the main DPS. SS3 Pyroath w/sig or SS0 Vera with Sig

[carmine reef]

vera

[orchid owl]

lmao

[verbal forge]

I cast you devine light ahhh

[orchid owl]

oh sht the skin selector in spending is actually decent

they have pyro nana and oblivion coating

I'm tweaking

should I use black cards?

basic banner btw

I got 15 blue cards

it would take me 13 weeks to get 2250 blue cards

[orchid owl]

operation guardians gives 3 chests a week which is 180 blues

[meager sleet]

Blue card packs?

[verbal forge]

Swipe 5k blue tickets or the 69 2.5

[scenic canyon]

Man I ruined my account spend my 12k bc on selena skin and I got no bc to get charchters

[orchid owl]

I don't think that's worth it

atp I should just buy one of the shtty top-ups

I still haven't bought the BPs

I have 5887 black cards

[meager sleet]

Buy the bp use the yelo card

[orchid owl]

it's basic banner

[meager sleet]

Oh wait

This is standard

Well

Yea use black card if you can't wait, pull individual

[carmine reef]

have you bought the one time 2.5k standard pack for 5 rc

[orchid owl]

the what

maybe

where is it?

[carmine reef]

i think it was in topup

if you don't see it you've probably bought it already

[orchid owl]

it's not among the bought ones either though

this is all there is for the blue bundles

[carmine reef]

well the "bought" packs presumably show refreshing packs, no?

[orchid owl]

refreshing? no

[carmine reef]

that pack is once per account

[orchid owl]

look here

the ones that are "sold out" are ones you can't buy anymore

it means I already bought them

the 5 rc standard pack, idk what that is but it's not there

[meager sleet]

At your whel rate just use black cards and do 1x pull, hopefully you get it early

[orchid owl]

yeah I'll probably do that

no early unfortunately
it is what it is

[verbal forge]

Did you got the 5rc pack for 10 days?

[orchid owl]

there's no such thing?

[verbal forge]

There is

[orchid owl]

this was the 5 RC pack

WHAT

[carmine reef]

that's the same one i'm talking about

[orchid owl]

I don't have it

[carmine reef]

it's once per account like i said

[orchid owl]

I guess I bought it? I wouldn't know

[carmine reef]

if you don't see it you already bought it before

[verbal forge]

That would make sense then

[meager sleet]

The one that gave you 2500 blue ticket?

[ionic citrus]

26 blue ticket and I got it

How strong is ss3

[verbal forge]

Nevermind its a 1 time deal

Zexous already mentioned

[meager sleet]

I didn't
Because I got the standard target under 20 pulls

[verbal forge]

Its on the top 3 priority to ss3 so pretty good

[clever gulch]

is it worth to SS epitath ? i know grandpa is old but he's the only unit i often use that is not SS

[verbal forge]

SS for basic rights, and leap him

[clever gulch]

only leaped his 2nd skill so far

i really want to fully leap oblivion

[verbal forge]

No worries just take your time, him and luna are the priority to leap now

[dawn cloak]

Stronger core skills
That her jumping slam I think deal more dmg than her ult

[wary turret]

Hi, I just got Selena and wanted to practice my glaciation rotation. Is there a video or an rotation y’all have? (echo, Selena, wanshi)

[hazy sandal]

Guys what is the ib ppc darkflow buff eng name

[clever gulch]

for oblivion leap, which skills should i up first ? are they all worth leveling up to 18 ?

[deft apex]

hi setsu, u can have my sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B4Kj4DxoShxK3E8g61Qt4pOEt3XvrsM6BsYHskhgSA0/edit?usp=sharing

[clever gulch]

hi fabio

[hazy sandal]

Tidal return

K

[deft apex]

hi hi

[hazy sandal]

16/24/32/40/48/56/64/72/80

[deft apex]

numbers

[verbal forge]

You leap everything in her its extra skills/dmg

[clever gulch]

Damn. I'm broke in terms of wafers, could only get 2 skills to 8 and one to 17

[golden merlin]

Glaciation Rotation:
Start Alisa, swap Wanshi, 3p, hd, 6 red (10 stacks of glaciation), ult1, swap Selena, 3p, hb (keep holding until ult) 3p, [hb] ult1, hd, 6 white, hb, hd, ult2, swap Alisa, (hd, 3d, hb, ult)x2, swap Wanshi, 3p, hd, hb until selena cd off, repeat

[golden merlin]

Grind cursed waves or use wz currency

[clever gulch]

Cursed waves is roguelike?

[golden merlin]

Ye

Get 300 wafers per 10 levels i think?
So like 1.3 runs per 300 wafers
2025 wafers to fully leap all 3 skills

[gray trench]

which fire character would you guys recommend to War Zone? I have no good fire team whatsoever

[golden merlin]

vera: geiravor hypercarry fire team

[rotund fox]

Me when no Sel*na:

[meager cypress]

Solo Vera does the job

[rotund fox]

All kinds of j*b

hands, feet and etc

[meager cypress]

She's a jack of all trades woman (love her for that ||woof woof||)

[rotund fox]

She can jack me

[normal sierra]

[meager cypress]

She can ride me instead ||mommy pls drain me all night||

[golden merlin]

This aint channel 1

Pls dont

[meager cypress]

Don't blame me, blame the one who started it ||someone named walking_table in particular||

[gray trench]

disgusting actually

[golden merlin]

You are still a participant even if you didnt start it

[meager cypress]

Of course, didn't say I'm not involved

[golden merlin]

#📨・general-help message

[meager cypress]

Will that stay forever in shop btw? Or will that be gone after next patch?

[meager cypress]

How much leap wafer do I need exactly to max her leaf skills out?

[normal sierra]

it stays until you buy it, no time limit

[golden merlin]

2025

[meager cypress]

Y-you're not kidding me, right? (cuz its 2025)

[golden merlin]

15 wafers per chip * 15 chips*3 per leap skill * 3 skills

15x15x3x3=2,025

Or 45^2 if you prefer

[meager cypress]

Wait is that the amount of wafer chip I need or literally the leap wafer itself?

[golden merlin]

The wafer chips I think
Like, the currency to buy the character specific leap material

[meager cypress]

If it's the wafer chip that means I need 135 leaf wafer oblivion, if that's what you mean

[golden merlin]

Yup, and its 15 chips per wafer
135x15=2,025

[normal sierra]

just use the quick buy option, it won't let you buy more than what you need that way

[golden merlin]

Bruh they should make it illegal to buy more than you need

[meager cypress]

Didn't know that lmao

[meager cypress]

So real, imagine if you buy more than what you need for that character, so now what happens to that extra thing?

[golden merlin]

sell it i guess

[meager cypress]

Oh hey I have enough to max her out, let's go! (3.6k ig I've been saving up)

[golden merlin]

cool (idek how to get them aside from cursed waves)

don't forget you need about 3 million cogs and a bunch of aura basic units

[meager cypress]

Honestly same (I think I got them from waves too from one time I tried it out)

[meager cypress]

Tf is an aura basic units?

[golden merlin]

material needed to level up leap skills

[meager cypress]

Where do I get them then?

[golden merlin]

i actually don't know
but you can buy them from sim shop
material > scroll right

[meager cypress]

Wait do you mean the aura chip, or something else? And how much do I need of these mats

Nevermind aura basic unit is below that LMAO

How much tho? Have an idea? @golden merlin

[golden merlin]

no idea i forogt
just buy as needed

[sharp cobalt]

Anniversary banner: Vera Geravoir or Selena Pianissimo?

[golden merlin]

geiravor if no have

[visual topaz]

what is this error icon

double ice shred reso on geiravor

[simple dew]

what

[young badge]

WOW

[normal sierra]

why are you breaking that poor menu?

[wanton hatch]

hax

[meager cypress]

I don't get it, what's the error in the photo?

[golden merlin]

2 of the same weapon reso

[visual topaz]

2 tank reso on a amp that isn't observer*

[wanton hatch]

name your teams

[golden merlin]

nah just memorize them

[sullen garden]

What’s better for fire war zone ss3 Dante or ss0 Lucia

[golden merlin]

why dante

wait actually idk

pyroath probably better

[wanton hatch]

watapk where 13

[dawn cloak]

Dante has qte nuke and easier rot than Pyro, Just use Dante
Just try both if curious who's better this week

[sullen garden]

Can I see the team set up perchance

[wanton hatch]

wata & lilith class

[dawn cloak]

https://youtu.be/r9nrojarr4w?si=rJCtlFL5jylJgX1G

[wanton hatch]

qte aboose

[dawn cloak]

Device aboose also

[sullen garden]

So how does one obtain a extra 4 res sticks

[dawn cloak]

Those fps maaan

[normal sierra]

for a minute I thought I had a chance to retain
but then I saw 3s whel sniper with 0 score

[dawn cloak]

[wanton hatch]

witchcraft

[sullen garden]

Also does getting Bianca’s cub to ss boost her a lot

[dawn cloak]

RC -> buy BP -> use voucher buy wp reso shards
Thats how the SS0 R3 ~~ fake f2p ~~ does it

[wanton hatch]

a bit, edb helps alot

[dawn cloak]

Only 5% edb for 8 sec after pressing cub button, which u does need to manage it well

If not its wasted

[sullen garden]

I thought abt that but I want to get wanshi sss

[dawn cloak]

Just buy more voucher

[normal sierra]

there is 0 need to manage that on midanca, she eats 10 billion orbs in every second lul

[dawn cloak]

So u can get both

[dawn cloak]

Oh yea tru
100% uptime basically

Just dont forget to press, especially during hold dodge, and last whip part before ult
Its big dmg

[sullen garden]

Do I give Bianca GA or be smart and give Selena dlt

[carmine reef]

you don't need to press cub active to get the edb

the edb will trigger on the cub's joint attacks which also count as active

[dawn cloak]

Bianca what rank?

[carmine reef]

this is the case for all sig cubs

[dawn cloak]

For real?

[carmine reef]

yes

you only need to worry about pressing the button for the edb if you're using off-char cub

but char using their own sig cub, no need to worry about it

well, unless for some reason there is some sig cub that doesn't perform an active until too late in the rot

[meager cypress]

I have a question, if I only have Discord and Veronica for physical team, should I make Vero the main dps? And if so, what should her memory set should be? And her reso too

[carmine reef]

admittedly i don't know the trigger conditions for every single sig cub so there might be one like that

[dawn cloak]

Pray kuro doesnt fk up the cub design lol
I mean the joint atk

[visual topaz]

what can i expect on monzano with my wanbrick

[young badge]

pridelao

[carmine reef]

you need a phys tank like hanying or ss rosetta, or else your phys team is dead no matter what

[dawn cloak]

Should be Vero Hanying Alisa
Vero main dps memo, but I forgor is it 4Patton 2Cottie 2Keats
4Keats 4Cottie
Or 4Patton 4Cottie and 4Signa on Alisa

Oh wait, bro doesnt have Han, RIP

[wanton hatch]

Hanless

[sullen garden]

Sss

[wanton hatch]

[dawn cloak]

Surely better than mine, 5* selena
605k
#📨・general-help message

[dawn cloak]

Oh you mean for R2 GA?
Already got dlt right?

[sullen garden]

Yea

[dawn cloak]

Pray at CNY after Teddy we got free Hanying

[dawn cloak]

R1 Selena for dlt first

[visual topaz]

zaza

maybe it's time for me to pull wanshi sig

[dawn cloak]

But it works maan 😂

[visual topaz]

eh glacio so bad

15s knight

[normal sierra]

except wata, unless you wanna use the tarzan move

[dawn cloak]

Wata leap still not using his "leaping" move

smh

[visual topaz]

i saw some zaza before when he released

ult 1 > 3 core shell > Tarzan > Ult2

no quad blaze orbs shenanigans

[normal sierra]

ye, almost as fast as the blaze way if executed right, but weaker

[visual topaz]

15 19 20s

not that bad

[carmine reef]

found the one i guess

[normal sierra]

only 1s difference at chaos/hell

[dawn cloak]

Wantap prolly

[visual topaz]

ye

glacio starter > orbs > ult 2 kill for knight

chaos hold dodge > ult 2 kill
Hell double hold dodge > flower ult kill

idc about ranking on F2P alts

[normal sierra]

f2p neglect

[visual topaz]

whut neglect

i'm getting all rewards available at wantap

[carmine reef]

ew is too whel to even know what good scores would be on f2p acc

[visual topaz]

malding on F2P is painge

S0 sigless Empyrea 2 years ago vs SSS 3 reso made me realize that

[orchid owl]

wdym it's best move
you consume all 3 bullets at once that's 3 blaze orbs

[normal sierra]

97% with that score
just go in, hit once and die at that point, saves you time

[visual topaz]

hit once most of the time doesnt gib me score

so i still take the effort to kill the boss

even with +240% EDB

[normal sierra]

it's 600+ dmg for score on huaxu, 400+ on the others

[simple dew]

[dreamy pelican]

so lao the score couldnt register in lb

scorehaxx

[visual topaz]

that's earlier

when i checked

[tacit tiger]

Give me liberty
Give me fire
Give me more hypertune mats or I retire

[normal sierra]

but how is this possible? I need to unequip everything from my weakest char to not get 2 score from just hitting the boss once lul

[dawn cloak]

Dont mald, just do this 1 0 1 score
#📨・general-help message
|| courtesy of 123456789 ||

[dreamy pelican]

i am watanabe

give me leap
give me ht
give me sig and ill miss qte

[tacit tiger]

You only want the sig for harmo not the buff

[dreamy pelican]

sig memory.

bombardment shred comes from there iirc

not that i would know since he misses it anyways

[tacit tiger]

I am lucia

Give me sig
Give me dlt
Give me ss3 or I retire

[dreamy pelican]

she STILL retires

[tacit tiger]

This is for the fire team tho plasma is built different

[normal sierra]

but when will I retire?

[orchid owl]

your choice

[dreamy pelican]

eos retirement home is right there twin

[tacit tiger]

Gen 3 characters deals more damage in their affixes than their main element

[orchid owl]

that's true for any affix char

if you look at liv's desc
comparing her lightning damage and darkflow damage, the difference is 1000%

[visual topaz]

no retirement for you

[dreamy pelican]

wata

[orchid owl]

even he does

[tacit tiger]

My unc does not deal more damage darkflow (I have da Vinci on in both builds)

[simple dew]

captain obvious

affixes are ment to be superior

[tacit tiger]

Have you try lucia plasma before?

[dreamy pelican]

are you sure we're playing the same wata here dawg

[orchid owl]

try fire wata and darkflow wata

[simple dew]

both 0 dmg

[orchid owl]

I think you are forgetting lucia does off-field damage after ult and crazy damage on qte with ss3

[tacit tiger]

Cw darkflpw deals more damage than darkflow wata

[orchid owl]

unless you explicitly tested wata

like, solo or something

[dreamy pelican]

df wata cant even solo the first bear twin

vera ss3 eats it for breakfast

[dreamy pelican]

sss too

my man exists just for df stacks

[tacit tiger]

Who puts dlt on unc?

[dreamy pelican]

[simple dew]

noone

[orchid owl]

nobody is denying that
we are talking about his df vs fire damage

[dawn cloak]

Dafkflow wata lower dmg than fire wata
Just read the leap skills

[simple dew]

the ult stacks dont affect df iirc

[dreamy pelican]

he cant atleast do decent dmg with matrix light in fire

[dawn cloak]

~~ but does EN read tho? ~~

[tacit tiger]

Bathton gives like 5% more shred than Shakespeare so..... So what deals more damage? (unc)

[orchid owl]

ain't no way

[dreamy pelican]

why are we comparing shakes and bath

[orchid owl]

his blaze deals 960% vs 1235%

[tacit tiger]

this is on unc

[dreamy pelican]

liffu already uses bath

[dreamy pelican]

he goes neither????

[dawn cloak]

~~ Bathing with Liffu when ~~

[dreamy pelican]

he goes alphonse dv on both fire and df

[tacit tiger]

we comparing damagaes on both fire and darkflow

[simple dew]

ult1 600%>480%

[dreamy pelican]

yeah but lets test it with the set he actually uses

[tacit tiger]

Da vinci again?

[dreamy pelican]

and we already did test that

[dreamy pelican]

yeah

dv alphonse

vera goes guin eins cottie

[normal sierra]

since when? last time I checked, both of those gave 15%

[dreamy pelican]

and liffue goes bathing

[dreamy pelican]

also yeah

they're all the same effect

just different name and element

[simple dew]

ult2 1600%(+core)>1440%

[dreamy pelican]

[orchid owl]

wata is gonna get replaced entirely by kamui

watch

[simple dew]

no daren

[orchid owl]

nah

daren will stay meta until they replace pyro

[dawn cloak]

Yes Kamui fire tank
No new dark tank ever

[dreamy pelican]

god forbid we have more than 2 meta m*les at a time

[tacit tiger]

I forgor

[orchid owl]

mules? miles?

[dreamy pelican]

me when i fcking lie

[tacit tiger]

Plasma tank

[dawn cloak]

moles

[orchid owl]

that's nanami

[dawn cloak]

Funny way to spell NA NA MI ☆

[dreamy pelican]

molesturs

[tacit tiger]

Dedicated plasma tank

[simple dew]

daren

Karenina Scire

[normal sierra]

my nana is fully dedicated

[tacit tiger]

New dedicated plasma tank

[simple dew]

Karenina Erics

[dreamy pelican]

[dawn cloak]

Darenina leap 2.0

[dreamy pelican]

will this one give us swap cd reduction

[dawn cloak]

[wanton hatch]

no more Daren leaps

[tacit tiger]

Old darkflow max invest have 8m on wz while the new one is 26m on wz crazy difference

[normal sierra]

that and +60% shred

[wanton hatch]

[dreamy pelican]

wata leap + liffu

essentially two new characters

since wata post and pre leap are heaven and hell

in terms of difference

[normal sierra]

I dunno, my darkflow sure doesn't get 26m score in any universe

[tacit tiger]

You need wata for that qte

[tacit tiger]

Someone in cn does.... Whales

[dreamy pelican]

75% shred field that resets on EVERY qte is bonkers

the first of its kind i think?

since every other shred field doesnt reset

[tacit tiger]

Longest shred in game

[dawn cloak]

NA
NA
MI

[simple dew]

27*

[dawn cloak]

[dreamy pelican]

[normal sierra]

pretty sure nana got the 100% shred uptime first

[dreamy pelican]

yeah i forgot abt it

[tacit tiger]

Darkflow?

[dawn cloak]

Well, the OG was Garnet I guess

[dreamy pelican]

but i think ts kinda small

[dawn cloak]

Smol tho

[dreamy pelican]

and nana keeps pushing mobs out

[normal sierra]

nahh, garn field was minuscule, not even comparable

[dreamy pelican]

bc of her FAT fcking ASS

and AXE

jesus christ GIRL MOVE THE BAKERY OUTTA THE WAY

[tacit tiger]

If luna can make every buff and damage universal that means... That unc darflow can be use here? Or luna doesn't convert darkflow shred....

[dreamy pelican]

not dmg

she doesnt make dmg universal

[dawn cloak]

But Im sure the reason Nana have that at default, is bcs of Garnet
Cuz newer gen needs to be an upgrade of older gen

[dreamy pelican]

there is no affix specific shred too

[dawn cloak]

Doesnt work for affix
Only for base 4 elemental

[dreamy pelican]

all affixes take shred from base elements

[normal sierra]

there is, wata shreds darkflow, not dark

[dawn cloak]

There is, Wata
60% darkflow shred is specific

[dreamy pelican]

oh right i forgot they had to change that

bc of shred stacking

[dawn cloak]

It got its own new icon, hence why not convertible by Luna

[tacit tiger]

Specific shred like darkflow doesn't work maybe?

[dreamy pelican]

90% shred was so damn funny

[dawn cloak]

And specific affix buff too. Like plasma glacio etc

[dreamy pelican]

it was using daren wata and vera right?

or was it with ishmama

[tacit tiger]

How much health does a dummy have in 1 health bar? 1 million?

[dreamy pelican]

a LOT more than that

for reference red huaxu has 66m and 444 teams shred that sht for breakfast

a dummy should have maybe 50m

[tacit tiger]

In 1 health bar right?

[normal sierra]

yes (ish doesn't work in that team)

[tacit tiger]

I'm not talking about the 5 health bars

[dreamy pelican]

in one health bar idk. you gotta do the math

if we say 50m is the whole hp of the dummy, then one bar is 10m (if there are 5 bars)

[tacit tiger]

My plasma lucia deals like 700k - 1m per hold ult and she shred the dummy like sht.....

[dreamy pelican]

idk man no one ever counts using specific hp numbers

[dreamy pelican]

1m per hold ult is incredibly low

[tacit tiger]

Nvm its more I have ss3 lucia

[dreamy pelican]

[simple dew]

i was practicing plasma and the dummy died like 2 times in 1 swap

[dreamy pelican]

almost all dmg in the game is done in multiple ticks rather than one big burst

[simple dew]

except teddy

[dreamy pelican]

and wanshi

[tacit tiger]

We don't talk about the last ult (I forgot to ping 3 times)

[normal sierra]

you killed it, so now you only need to check all those damage numbers and add them all up, ez

[visual topaz]

[tacit tiger]

Use cottie on plasma btw

[simple dew]

yo hands slow

[tacit tiger]

I forgot to three 3 ping and I'm using only my right hand

[simple dew]

where left

[visual topaz]

typing here

[tacit tiger]

.....

[simple dew]

[tacit tiger]

You don't want to know

[simple dew]

[dreamy pelican]

jorkin it crazy style

[simple dew]

[tacit tiger]

She be an s rank for sure..... She have a fcking sig cub for sake

[fluid gulch]

Delulu

Kuso not stoopid enough to do 5 consecutive S rank patches

[tacit tiger]

She have a sig cub

[dreamy pelican]

[tacit tiger]

Last spark to across the ruined sea patch?

10 patches btw

[simple dew]

half of them were uniframes and selena free

[tacit tiger]

Still s ranks🔥🔥🔥

[spring seal]

Who is she

[simple dew]

fodder s ranks

[tacit tiger]

A diva

[spring seal]

She looks tasty

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/nirvatia-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-oh-my-goodness-gracious-gif-17094042008662638859

[spring seal]

I mean beautiful

[simple dew]

woman from godfall

[spring seal]

Ohhh

Ok

She's getting her frame??!?

Pog

[tacit tiger]

She gonna be my fourth wife for sure

[simple dew]

no shes becoming a stigmata coating

[noble zinc]

Yea they'd rather do 10

[tacit tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-14317670277085954258