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i keep getting dlt c ucked

Me blind

make it proc 



that run had a record of 3 whiffs from Lilith and 2 Bonca ult misses

Veroniga too scam they remove chiko fr
@wanton hatch I can do bonka tech pretty consistently now


I'll do that next time when I'm not half asleep 

The blue ticket standard banner? Should be until next anniv. So ~360 days
Huh Bonca ult can miss too!? 
I thought only Lilith shafted
next wave didn't spawn 
Oh wave

It’s acc pretty peaceful once u get into flow state w it
Oh no the 3x3ping weather
My biggest thing is in WZ I lose count of how many ults I’ve done🤣


also wow nyx
Am I supposed to know nyx
no
no, please snipe
fk roseblade is one shotting my lilith 
a whel maybe
Pretty stacked, karuhun and A6 in one room
:clueless:
have i ever asked, idr but are you indo too?
There's no way
Am I really supposed to be worried
Or are these 1tap scores
if he doesn't answer ill just take that as yws

no
dont forget you're dowlao, there's no need to worry
Bed too comfy, imma one tap scores until weekends
Bro I need to promote top 1
Realistically
Realistically
Dark gets 3m
If I'm being frfr
ask Nergilao to bless ur dark

bro if you dont get at least 5 its massive major skill issue
i got 5m last dark mob with your invest

bless us poor sufferers, please nergilao
No i think im outdo


where you get selena eat spicy food
Its 222.3 021
What is ish doing with r2
i thought you already there


Is it better
is it safe to spend skulls for ss wata now?
Always has been
We already SSS Wata here 
So is teddy replacing Qu or Ayla? So I can my stuff ready
why the hell is your bianca on bath cottie in wz
Can I bootleg the Darkflow team without Vera?
Or is she needed to enable Darkflow in the first place
you can enable with epitaph leap, but is slower at gaining stacks than vera iirc
Well at least I can enable it
Dark amp should also work on Darkflow iirc? Sorry not been playing with affix much
how long can wata get 10 stacks?
15 blaze is too long
10 stacks is 10 blaze
15 is ridiculous even at SSS
well, play the long game then

They will give another Darkflow amp eventually I am sure
yea in 2 years
Guess it's gonna be this lmao
I’m tripping it’s Jeanne cottie lmao
So yes Wata 100% on bath
LMAO
Qu
Anyway still beta, wait till release patch
who should i chose on blue target if my last character was lilith
Wait why Qu?
Do amp buffs stack?
Ayla already sees no field time
Ik but before release patch Which one will she replace
just to hold support memories plus support weap resos
then again, we dont know at what invest can we kick qu vs teddy invest
But doesn't Qu out dps Wanshi at similar investments?
Amp as main dps means she cant hold qte bot memo set
Also yes, attacker still the worst class in meta after 6 yrs due to powercrepes
we can sss wanshi though
and he's one of the recommended sss alongside lilith and teddy
Qu for sure, reason stated above
Attacker with low dmg are just shiet
Well I suppose he is a lot cheaper to invest in yeah
So Is teddy free or gonna be like LMT
Like Lilith
Oh free until you get her okay cool cool
But only 50 shards, no free 1x Teddy, unlike Lilith
Idt u get to pull her for free tho isn’t it shard exchange only
Like the dorm unit, but on event tab like Lilith
Oh cool cool I didn't get Lilith to SSS when she came out so I have chance to do do
For teddy
Yea in 5 months if not pulling at all
Cuz 20 shards limit per month
So when is this drop coming out.?
In 28 days
Guacamole 
who should i chose on blue target if my last character was lilith
wut shorthalt hell score ss3
Try asking there I guess https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1383785490360172584
how many orba does livs fast ult eat
Depends on who you have I guess
about anyone since empyrea to lilith excluding colabs
Oh are aiming for Meta or characters you like
im neutral on the 4 i missed so im just gonna get whoever does better

Ishmael is a all-rounder
On any team
Sort of
yeah thats before lilith i have her
General help already helping him, just let them I guess

Lucia Pyrowashed nah no way 
Understood just trying help a bit be a good Senior citizen
Nah Lucia Lotus
When she's SSS+ She is so meta

She's like CRT God
senior?
im not even max lvl
i just took a little break
no
i cant read mb
You good no trouble
Sometimes the human body does that makes us go Brian dead for sec
loosing guin buff but heisen debuff still on
or
loosing heisen debuff but guin buff still on
🦓
hitlag boss
🧱
Welcome to gen3 ppc 
No more orb gacha but boss moveset gacha
glb no rights


leader demote
they all might be whales but you are the whaler whale so its okay
Brother my bianca is r0
wtf get 1 vro
AND WHO IS IN YOUR PFP?
or be 2x in hero
That requires me to do plasma instead of phys
And I do not know
How to plasma
22.32.3 111 plasma
Seems kinda
IMAGINE USING WATANABE PFP BUT NOT EVEN GIVING BIANCA A RESONANCE 💔💔💔
thats solo lilith score
Shut

replace epitaph

this why ur in hero
Until somebody shows me ss0 Pyro plasma wz im not gonna mald more wz
See u guys next week
Godbai
randall alrdy sent
doesn't nuke have ss0
vro
Excuses

its not randall run

Bro said show me a run and then refuses to watch it
its wolfie ref

That fire 700w was also single pyro ult because I don't have nuke hax to 1e1s
Ok show
What the helly
Simple basic rot
this is the easiest ss0 rot



wtf extaria moment



Ok since I'm on my trip to learn all the teams might as well plasma
Never ice tho
I will never play ice
Maybe Ted bundy will save ice
Ice is fun
No
dalao potential 
I'll just retain leg
Ez clap
I will never be dalao on my phone bro
Did my entire wz with hdr on
12 fps
est was phone player iirc 
🧂
Cn built diff
Dalao genes
i can give you dalao genes

hey nuke can we do it with uh protection this time...

Protection?


i will collect nuke's genes and then fill dow with it

Invests or score? 
i wanted to put dow but I don't wanna pressure him into ending up like you guys

especially when he has college and a good life ahead

A doctor 
I'll still post fire this week depending on where my invest caps
Unless I'm supposed to be getting like
9.5m
*10

Ish don't know daren with 20
wtf
Was and they went 17
this zone one good scoring doable
Ok so I’ll take 16
isnt that kinda illegal
does Vietnam allow under 16?

me only balding dark this time
7.7mik can aim
Leg


wha




Does selena ss3 still do the 2 hold dodges for ult 2 at the end?
Or is all swaps just 1 flower 1 orchestra
Also can I pretty please with a cherry on top get the inputs for the 1 flower part
I did the thing
Shame there's no pure lightning or ignite weather this week
You mean warzone ender?
Dayum me selena washed ss0 
Wait for others answer btw, but ss3 iirc 6x white orb -> hold dodge -> flower ult
I saw somewhere that 3x white orb + hold dodge equals flower or maybe im just delulu
Maybe, what i remember from reading is white orb buffs hold dodge now. Never got to play one
delulu
wut sss nana plasma ref
Yea delulu, treepy showed me the light with vid
Maybe later me forgot plasma play 
Yes pls whats 233 plasma run
SS0 Plasmaoath


ss3
Nookies time to help has come
mods, the helper is running away 
Oh

Theres no SSS Nana there 

Ofc bruh, Nana best gurlz
Unlike plasmaoath


Me 233, gib also 
also 222 for me please
double weather is back baby, its the main reason why the scores are so inflated
Zone: Mobs
Weather: Hyper Charge
SS3 Lucia Pyroath R3 | 4 Heraclitus 2 Cottie 2 Wilde
SSS0 Nanami Startrail R3 | 4 Herschell 4 Heisen
SSS6 Lilith Daemonissa R3 | 4 Davinci 4 Guinevere
11m mobs

Ofcourse its azriel as always
I shouldve known, best source
Thanks btw 

Now to fix this somehow my 444 near same as 333 run

Okay dis some crazy shiii
Lilith -> Pyro -> Lilith -> Nana -> Pyro 
@buoyant hornet Is it fine if I add Selena rots to the sheet with all the rots (in pins), or may I please add to it in general?
can lower or not ss3 shorthalt?

Oh it's just that shrimple
My dumbass trying to make a complicated lingya proc ult rot
Do I solo with SSS Liv or do I still swap in an SS0 Nanami?


Solo sss
Man I don't show up here much
So dunno if there's an bot for these
And yet you got it right 
Bot dead
Maybe new one soon. Named Teddy
Surely its ready when S Teddy debuting 
is it confirmed treeslop char wont be on basic banner?


Lowkey bonka and liv…
I’m sensing a theme
Fortunately her SS is already very good
It started with keklena
No
But I still think
She was ss3
Ss keklena is fine
I would certainly recommend her ss3
I meant for above ss baseline
Makes her easier to run
Bianca was blatantly kind of homeless until sss extremely broken
Massive jump started from there 
But SS is fine
Still remember that 1mil avrg
Nana SS3 and SSS straight up more than double her dps
I did not notice that
Ever
Well to start with
Unc is never dying
Nana SS3 and SSS give her 10% more shred each
Already that's a teamwide damage increase of 20% over SS
Yeah I think I noticed it less before cuz she was soloing
But now that liv is here my score skyrocketed by almost 4m
And her SSS gives her even more crazy mults while allowing her way quicker rotations with cottie
Also 3 second swap reduction is always nice
She also doesn't need DLT btw
So you can buff her damage up even more
Nana's dps keeps up with liv at same investment
That's despite liv being over a year older (former CN time)
And liv is one of the strongest characters they released lately
Low baseline
With a timestop QTE that can one shot a warzone wave
You can make a trash attacker and they don't gotta do a lot to replace a 3 Yr old gen 2
Just highlighting how goated nanaknight is
To the point her SS3 and SSS are still the highest priority rankups
Btw have we confirmed teddy's element and role yet?
If amplifier, she's most likely going to be a raydiance buffer
shes ice rayd
If tank, I can see her being a plasma maybe
She's ice and rayd
the beta is out already vro
Oh
qte bot currently
I will be there to mald ss0 r0 bianca rayd
Hope rosetta is dark tank or lightning amp
sub 2m score
Raydiance is just another nanaknight upscale since it is a subset of lightning
@noble zinc 333 team. prolly 14m was doable
Glad they're bringing forward raydiance though. Bianca raydiance is so fun.
Is this legal
Wait
No
What
WHAT
She's supposed to replace qu bro
Holding the dumbass weapon selector for ayla sig so I can run double amp
what ayla for
Hm nanaknight SSS has 45% shred, and reduces 20% extra damage reduction
I think using DD might be more worth it now
That extra 8% res shred can be crazy
Particularly since nanaknight doesn't need to run solo anymore
still need dlt for burn
Oh, and 15% more shred from heisen
Does she need to run cottie for burn?
Or would shakespeare be better
So 2 cottie 2 guinevere 4 Shakespeare?
4 shakespear 4 cottie
Why 4 cottie and not 2 guinever or einsteina?
cuz thats on vera
Btw does anyone know if 4 pc herschell actually give extra shred or only extends the shred from nanaknight?
Does she contribute that much damage?
I mean let's assume SS
bot
Why would you run 4 cottie instead of 2 cottie+2 guinevere?
cuz guin and ein on vera
Extends, makes the lightning debuff uptime almost 100%
If not, only proc on qte for 8 sec
Ok thanks
Vero would run 4 davinci 2 guin 2 ein?
Yes, even with SSS Dante Nana runs this
To spam more ults
wut
If SSS Dante SSS Nana SS0 Vero yea
If Dante below that, not sure
burn team vera vero nana
Burn team got many variations
I think I have SS3 Dante
also dante nana vero is the worst variation of burn team
Dante Nana Vero/Vera
Dante Wata Vero
Vero Nana Vera/Wata
Wha-
u either go nana vero vera or dante wata vero
I see nana is the only constant here
Yea iirc Vero scores higher with with this Dante, like 1-2m higher
With Vero Nana Vera
No bro, theres Dante Wata Vero there 
So nana vero dante?
Nana vera dante?
vero need for burn reset
Drop all ur igni unit invests bro
From those igni variations
If sss wata dante scoring higher
Unless u have r2 vera or sm
Invest diff
So basically I shouldn't run dante
Same reso dante better
his dante scoring lower he got 3s nana
Yea igni seriously got many team combo
Cuz all three igni units are acting as main dps
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Yes but my nana was ss0
Back then
Now she's ss3 so vero nana wata might be better but I need burn zone to come back so I can check
Shouldve SSS Dante lolol
Its just another 10k bc
Not this trash mob zone phys
So with SSS nana I should run vera vero nana with vera and vero being pure qte bot?
SS0 Vero being good only on warzone is so ass
no vera is qte bot
I kinda got him just cause I like him, same with vergil
vero is sub dps
Short, fast, or full rot?
~~ Vero is a scam ~~
both
Does Liv Limpidity rlly need DLT? I never ran DLT on her and did fine... today I even tried 5 star weap, still fine... (just need 4 basic atk during 1st rotation)
1st swap full fast if no dlt then next swap in can alternate based on wave
If dlt u can probs do some double fast shenanigans
If SS3 I heard not need
Dunno tho 
Me SS0
So vero will run shakespeare while vera will run davinci?
Balling
2 ult don't need dlt on ss0 liv
Only first double rot can't do sp delay
Need hold dodge
Maybe u cooking, dunno
It depends on what rot u do
Fast or full ult
Oh I was confused earlier cause I got Vero and Vera mixed up
Veranica
Veroniga
isnt that the same
I wanna test if I can run DD on nana instead of DLT
Sp delay? Is that the energy overflow thing?
Yes
How many ults does burn nana do in a single rotation?
Can every other swap in
need dlt
yeah
If ur doing the slow hold dodge double rot u don't need dlt
Okay then I'll experiment with vero to see which combo works
On light wz I just ran nana on dd with cottie and did a zaza double rot to fit in time
Double fast rot, fast+half, or fast+full
The key for igni warzone is, keep the stack at 20 at all times
The DoT is what makes Vero good at igni warzone
PPC tho 
theres no burn ppc tho
yeah why dont we have it
There is IB PPC
And off ele ppc is a thing
First of all I need to get some cottie pieces for my nana
they can give us ignition boss instead of always physical boss
ib ppc vero still gud if low invest
Theres not even phys ppc boss bro
Chiko got cancelled for globlal 
One of 2 affixes where we have a full team and no boss
Compared to SS3 Dante? U sure?
SS0 Vero seriously no dmg
Huh. Got reference?
I think it's also just that SSS nana has so much damage and reduces rotation time so using vero+vera for more buffs is more efficient
Idk haven't tried it myself
ss0 nana not have
unless ur dante can kill the boss in 1 rotation he go with wata and vera
what's the rotation of Dark team if I use Wata with Lilith Bianca? what memory should wata hold then ?
Anyway gotta try yourself too, ignition got many combo
Absolutely, just gotta wait for ignition to actually show up
Well u said SS0 Vero igni ppc good, hence I asked
Cuz legit feels no difference, she tickles
Wata 4dv 4bathlon
do I need to HT bathlon ?
or just the bottom ones will do
Anyway just browse this channel
Theres many invest variations and dark tank replacement options
https://youtu.be/FA-0agouKX8?si=MaPLa5dcJ9uL_DC_
Bianca SS | R1 (DLT) | 4 Jeanne 4 Cottie (6 atk 6 ult 12 tunes) | SS Cub
Watanabe SSS | R0 | 4 Bathlon 4 Da Vinci (6 class no tunes) | No cub
Lilith SSS | R2 (DLT, Ray) | 4 Barcelo 4 Cottie (6 atk 6 ult 12 tunes) | S cub
Wata qte bot, dont bother, he doesnt deal dmg
thanks bro
Darkflow god 🤔
Ah I see. I didnt do sp delay at all, I played normally (holding dodge before 1st ult) and I consistently did 3 rotations per field time without DLT.
Now I know I can just do sp delay and skip hold dodge

3 rots per field time, without dlt, without sp delay, meaning long rots, how much time were you spending on her per swap, like 20 seconds?
if Wata got 4x Bathlon, should Bianca also hold 4x Bathlon ?
Wata bathlon just for more consistent bathlon shred coverage for Lilith dps
If youre confident on ur qte management, maybe can run Wata on eins instead
Just tried it xD, I didnt do it when I did highest scores.
Just tried to see how lenient she is with orb usage
sp delay is orb hungrier so
i've done a lot of testing with dlt vs ga, you can do 2 rots comfortably without dlt no matter what kind of rot
but 3 rots requires some planning and adjustment
all assuming sp delay ofc
Today I even tried 5 star weap, she did 2 rots per field time consistently (the 2nd rot of 1st field time needed 4 basic atk which can be weaved in)
Ofc without sp delay tech
if youre doing any basic attacks the rot isn't worth considering 
too slow
and she's already slow as is
Just for once, then after that never again
but it would probably be better to just do 1 rot and swap off at that point
so you could get back to proper rots sooner
And its 5 star weap, I think its improved so much compared to before 💀 I remember when we needed 6 star weap and DLT for smooth rotations
we are typically doing 1 liv rot at start anyway
multiple reasons

So much cookin
first swap you can't have sp delay prepped so you can do that on first swap for subsequent swaps, you can also quickly ult and swap off because her off field dmg can clear early waves while her actual onfield rotation isn't super great at the early waves, and for ss3 and up it's also a quick way to enable qte nukes asap, though ss0 has some form of qte nuke as well
liv fast ult and swap off clears like
5 waves

to be clear i'm doing that immediately
like liv 1 fast ult into nana
nana is goated and drops field on qte after all
don't necessarily need nana to go first like some other teams
U cookin well, but Im just hero promo legend then demote semi tryhard xD
Thats a lot of thinkin for sure lol
I think I can reach 8M. rotation wasn't perfect. SS0 Bianca SSS Lilith SSS Wata
are lucia pyroath and luna oblivion still good? i quit before dante came out and just got back into this game
also i have selena pianissimo and vera geiravor too if theyre still relevant
all with their signature weapons
hii im a returning player from year 1/2. Interested in Luna Oblivion, Shkura, Lamia or Pyroath. I pulled for Plume, Laurel and Bianca Stigmata back then.
want to do something crazy and ''dual DPS'' Plume/Shkura or Laurel/Lamia in the same team if it is even possible.
luna got a leap?
yes
what is the new character btw
the like
uhhh
white haired
i tink
is she ice too
does she work good wit selena
awh
who does she work good with
i have nanami startrail with her signature too if that matters
Liv, Nanami, Ishmael ( if you don' have ishmael use feral )
is liv like META META or
whats her full name lemme look at her anims
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Ta pak these haxers wtf that daren charge speed 
holy she looks so tuff
How to Bianca?
what score for 22.13 bica ish lilith?
Reso?
8.2
ss lilith cub + skill issue
FK
I'll round it down to 7.5 that should be good right
@spiral merlin hey magma did u use double Vera ult rotation for Fire this week ?
idk how to play dork man what do u want me to do
Yeah but when does Vera not double ult
when someone decides to use triple ult rotation with dlt 
Ah
Which i mean did actually improve my df score last week bye having more field time with Vera over wata
I should try that tbh now with my invest
Vera does triple in df
ah then my first run i was using her only using doulbe rot
That's unconditional
Testing out Bianca. Keep in mind that with SS3 Scire, Bianca will still use cottie instead of bathlon and have a different rotation.
BGM: Falcom jdk BAND 2008 Spring - Silver Will
SS0 Crepuscule 4Jeanne 4Bathlon R1 S cub 6atk 6ult
SS0 Parhelion 4Sothoth 4DaVinci R2 Lingya cub
SSS0 Daemonissa 4Barcelo 4Cottie R2 S cub 6atk 6ult
Except swap in 3p
Stead of before swapping out
@spiral merlin cus u got alot more score then anyone else in leaderborad for fire so was just wondering if u where doing anything diffrent

Prob because I have s+ Vera now

having proper block cancels does make a diffrence tho ill give u that
k whel
tho with how tight the rotation is, it would only be minor i assume
Oh you have s+ also then you can put dlt on Vera and do 2.5 ult
i can do that without dlt
2 ult rotations
ult switch
You'll run out of orbs
i didnt


i mean lemme
I thought u definitely needed dlt
We need
Same 💀
Okay but can you do it throughout a run
I guess I can try

@spiral merlin okay nvm thats weird cus i just did a run without dlt and it worked
now i ran out during 2nd switch
hmm mabye cus i was doing that run slower

well not like it was that much slower then the fast version
but ull be 1 orb behind at all times
welp
@spiral merlin and how did i just now realise i can hold down basic while block canceling
ive been shooting myself in the foot this entire time
sounds like hell
so might explain why at times the cancel just straight up DIDNT WORK
how th did i even keep up
switching is like 100% slower
like not half speed, but like definitely slower
cs every time u go from dodge and press hold ba again she does an extra animation before starting core
I DIDNT KNOW AND I NEVER THOUGT TO TRY IT OUT

and i just only did 1, 3x ping near the end .... welp restart
@spiral merlin what wave did u reach btw ?
like 44 i think
omfg the block input wasent being registered half the time 
One wave more
Ss0 fish?
Funny how the start with Karen can define a wave more of 30 bars of life
SS0 R1
SHE CAN SMILE????


Yea
Lol
Damn I thought that only happens with pleb rank Walter 
That's the setup only once we do
Followup infinite ting ting 
With 99 dodge cancels
Whales suffering once before spam bunga
Can't imagine the pain 
For a sec I thought y'all found a new tech so keep using Walter ult infinitely
That's the case but didn't realize I was watching on loop 

what happens if I redo a ppc stage now without reseting it before? 
will it eat 2x char AP like this if I used the same chars or only 1?
@spiral merlin mmmh magma can u show me your setup ?
Ah using Vera as leader hmm lemmen try using your setup
you have s+ pyro too so try both
Ive tried with pyro
pyro is a wild card you change stuff depending on her breakpoints
eins is changeable, dlt/incan is changeable, leader is changeable
But keep getting stuck at like wave 41 to 42 doing same movement but timer isnt consistent so assuming something to do with fps there
timer can vary a lot depending on how many mistakes you make
they add up over time
Ye but when i make the exact same movement from muscle memory
But lemme try like thus
@spiral merlin getting better results with 3 ult rotation near the wave 20-33 with Vera
is sss+ geiravor better dps than sss+ pyroath
magma im going crazy

huh no dlt on lulu
yea
How to use it
same as normal just dont do red 3p to get eclipse
let dimension slash play out
you can do red 3p if you have enough orbs which you will at some point
Isnt it longer
skin 
Kamui 

If your doing fire hero wz what score did you get?
2.332 112 got me 7.27 one tap
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND, doing the same rotation and it goes from -1 ~ +3 whenever i do this im losing it @spiral merlin
there must be
missing breakpoint on early waves
i know my vera is very inconsistent in early waves
youll prolly get a breakpoint later like vera on a wave where pyro was on field
litterly none and the best part is that its only on this early one that it happens on, litterly dosent fluc like this later on 
guys im confused, for fire team, is geiravor the dps or is it still pyroath? Some people say geiravor is the dps but others say she is just the qte bot 😵💫
Vera geravoir is the main dps
geravoir is the dps if you have her around the same invest as pyro
But stuff changes with SSS invest
Who said qte bot for fire though lol
my pyro is SS3 while vera is SS, so shold i just invest in vera more? I currently have her on DV memories 😅
okay thank you, thats great cuz i actually like vera playstyle more haha
4 shakes 4 cottie is the new build
thank you guys 😁
did you know to put atk and ult memory resos too?
Ima assume he did class since he was on dv
@spiral merlin yeh no okay now its just getting worse and worse 
u got a video with the rotation u using so i can compare
i dont unfortunately
i can put one maybe tomorrow or smth depending on how im feeling
wata start insta ult
hook red orb ult
switch to Vera
2 rotations
erm
try vera start
eeeh
initially start on wata and immediately swap off to vera
he does not
no but i wanna try
ive tried but to varying success
dlt but no triple rot?
so start wata
and just switch to Vera instantly
yes
ah 2.5
no point in wasting time on wata
and just follow the rotation from then ?
yes
i got booted to hero and am trying to break fire as much as i can so i'm gonna try out triple rot vera i think
then wata quick and repeat ?
wave 71 so far 
pyro does slash + eclipse rota









me to now speed hax



