#📨・meta-help
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Trust rose or kamui will be dark tank we won't have to worry about this bs anymore
Pls don't jinx it we can't suffer from scire syndrome anymore I'm gonna go insane
she should live atleast 4 years
MODS
Pls kill scire already it feels like she's been around since I first played the game lmfao how is she still here
Meanwhile lamia didn't even get to live a full year in global
wait if rosetta isnt dark tank she will actually be 4 years old 
Yes 💀
can we push for 5
should i get nanamis weapon or veras?
tough call lmfao
Well nanami's sig is still overall more versatile but vera needs hers to even access her optimal meta strategies
I mean she can TECHNICALLY work without it but it's miles worse
Both of them are like that really but vera even more so
Vera without sig and deadline timing can't access her optimal meta strats/rotations at all
She's forced to do one really long rotation with no real benefit over the optimal 2 short broken rotations
Other than being braindead easy to execute unlike 2 rot
Thing is, nanami can rotate perfectly fine without sig as long as she has Liv to swap with, but she loses a big chunk of personal damage and also loses access to weapon harmony 4pc Heisen usage in plasma beam/raydiance warzones
Why my demfeck doing sp delay better with one hand than using 2
Lmfaooo
Sorcery
Probably just easier for you to coordinate the timing with one hand rather than both
might just get Veras and just hope the new Alpha frame coming is Fire so i can use both
btw 4pc heisen is important because it offers 15% lightning resistance shred
And the general rule of thumb is that shred is the best form of buff for your team's damage output
It's my usual 2 fingers what gets used the most doing best 
Alpha most likely won't be fire but who knows anymore
kuro just trolling us
6.5 anniversary
And liv's patch is the 6th anniversary
Will be successor of her father surely
ts
so 5+ months
ah
imagine
i got time then
its eithe alpha ice atker or she changed class
1 multi lmfao
Best feeling
might also cop her new coating shes getting soon but we'll see
Yeah I'm tired of them intentionally making long rotations that have bad damage lmao. Like at least with characters like selena and pyro their long rotations contain a lot of damage all throughout
And nanami
But then they made vera and bianca and veronica
But ult lowkey tickles
And vera barely got saved by rydle
Vera turned out to be a goat
But was intended to be another bad long rot
Get nanami's sig too its worth every bc
Oh was it rydle that discovered all the animation cancels?
Veronica tbf just had… 0 dmg throughout including the ult
Her ult has issues tbh but it's not that horrible all things considered
But if it were just a bit stronger she'd be a much better character
Like… there was NO REASON for her to deal less dmg than hanying
lost 🥀
Less than Selena I can understand since she’s so new
But less than Hanying is insane to me
her reds and ult1 do a lot of dmg the problem is the second you start holding yellow you're getting omega diminishing returns
I am very mad that Veronica dmg was nerfed that heavily from the beta
Loooooong animation for disproportionately low dmg
(Strictly talking abt phys rn)
But at least her rot is almost as fast as Alisa
So u don’t have to deal w that for too long
Not to mention her hold yellow being horrible at actually landing esp in mob zone
Teddy on the other hand… is atrocious
7s of no dmg and then a single nuke that often hits a low hp mob to finish a half dead wave off💀💀💀
This pisses me off sm
My ice team score about to go from 5-6m range to 5.2-6.2m 😍
Tf u mean there’s a mob right in front of u and ur hitting air🤣
Bro im lowkey 4.8 on mob😭
Lmfaooo selena hold basic headass moment
Wanshi is the only thing holding the team tg and his screen ult has the exact same issue as Teddy
Idk what it is abt ice they’re always given these single instance of big dmg type kits
Her hold yellow rot is not nearly as fast as alisa, if you do just one fast rot then it's comparable but does basically the same dmg as alisa
his moves individually have horrible overkill problems but that's largely offset by his actual rotation pathways being flexible
Dog character
Maybe trying to fit into the aesthetic of ice freezing and shattering
Although clearly not, re: teddy
I mean not rly
bold of you to assume she does the same dmg when even her tap yellow can whiff if the enemy is far enough away lmaoo
I thought everyone just 1 fast rot her
The bullets leading up to it are the distributed dmg
ye teddy needs something like that
Yea that’s true ig
She needs her pre-ult moves to actually do fkn dmg
Leap Wanshi👀
Not just filler animation time
Not necessarily
Give him Wata qte treatment
No she can long rot and let hanying 1rot which is good for people with r1 hanying
Ohhhh ok
Well except in mob zone where she can't even land her sht
Let Rosetta return to reign phys tank role for 4 years
The extra 3ping only allows her to be quicker on entering ult 1 again
She can consistently go 3r 1y instead of 6red
but the difference isn't phenomenal either lmao
Yea the only ss3 im missing is hy and ishy tho
So between them I prob go for hy
Blue banner
If I whel I could get ishy when anni banner drops too
don't do it yet
Idk if I’m that passionate abt void wz tho
Not until we know what rosetta is
She’s a horse
It'd be tragic lol
Wdym
now- 😭
We shall see
@carmine reef you played pgr in mobile?
Friends, good evening. Now that we have Liv for one whole week, do we have a consensus about her memories (SS rank)? Both for lightning and darkflow content.
I dont play any games on my phone period
Ok so in pc is there anything like pre input ?

It works on some characters and some moves
And then some it doesn't
Like lucia ion is really chill because you can be holding the inputs for next rot during timestop
So i never struggled with 5s inputs or whatever
But then other things like veronica ult don't work like that

I'm pretty sure kuro has no actual consistent design standard for how to handle press and release inputs
So they just kinda do whatever for every character

they should make my life easier and make liv hold dodge pre-input possible 
But it's kuso so
why does liv ult2 do the same dmg with or without dv buff? 
Nani
Least me wasn't thinking delulu ty
Liv seems got this as well a bit 
if I don't wait for my qtes to come up and use ult2, it does X dmg
if I wait half a second for qtes to come up and use them, it still does the same X dmg

Frfr
trying to 2 rot hell overseer, but this carp just doesn't work 
She's an uma 
For overseer i just swapped to nana for qte nuke finisher lol
I think i did 1 rot liv
Slack or
Dont fully remember though
it doesn't kill for me, and even if it does, it's more than 16s
can do 16s with ish zaza, but I wanna do it without using ish
Ic
oy, no slacc, you mald with your whel things 

even dis paking 13s chaos was annoying to do, always end with 99% hp lul

Ive still got to do this in like 5 acc 
Every week keeping them for lst hr
Before close
I can't comprehend why would anyone do this without getting paid for it 
or wait... do they pay you? 
You getting to play free s+ why would I complain

but you just complained that you need to do lotsa things 
We get paid?

Yea that's why I do nothing whole week 
Ppc feels bad
It's only that at least
how the heck do you not get burned out like this? 
Daily I don't need to bother
It's whole new experience
Ss/SS3/SSS/s+
I was planning to go break
But marcus came right that time

Like ss light wow
Pure trash


ss is sub-hooman invest now, dis the new pgr 

Real, ss3 is the new ss0 now
Ss0 no human rights kek
Chat SS rank Hanying with Sig or SS rank Luna with Sig obviously. Can't go above SS rank for now because no skulls. No, I am not spending a dollar on free Luna in the shop, I am not giving Kuro my money
wai are you not giving kuro money
They will never get any money from me
but wai
Chinese

Chinese!!??

bro is racist 


I'm meta-ing so good rn
NEW BOT IS TEDDY?

Ok regarding meta is it better to get Luna and get the Nihil team going or get Hanying and cope with my Discord as true slash DPS because I skipped DMC Collab (deleted the game because no 3x rewards)?
we will never get 3x rewards ever again so uninstall it again 
I don't want to hear anything from you you droid
droid?
yeah, no x3 means just quit the game
Droid
okay japanese smart toilet


Not how I'm called
kiwi-ing is always good
yea, but its gonna take a while
🥝
we would get it by spectre release i believe
fund him
dalao no need funds 
yomm do you know the patch income of orange tickets?
no
@steady otter yo, what's the meaning of forward analog you mentioned in the comments?

STONKS
What's the rot for ss3 luna is it the same as ss0?
Have tier list for this game?
Same
You trying to make me broke 
heh
Yayyyy (R0 btw)
Almost a 1M increase🤣 (from ss3)
AHH I MADE 1 MORR WAVE
@buoyant hornet I got 6M hero with 011 reso HAHA
And none of my ish triple rots fit in amp buff timer🤣🤣🤣
Ur not going to pull teddy right to get 3s faster?
what memory set do we use on limpidity
Just somehow got 6 R3 chrs
Inv?
I have 2 R2… rest all R1😭
sorry whats that?
U whel
Invest
invest
What rank is she
ss
alr tyty

idk what me doing R3ing SS0 chrs
But I spent nothing 
HOW
Just somehow reso gets stacked
U have at least r1 on everyone tho?
Oh ig if ur an old player and didn’t take breaks u roll forward all old sigs too
Qu patch me from
Which helps

I was gen1 up to Luna laurel then quit until Ishy patch
You og then 
But I was one of the OGs, I pulled for Alpha on her debut banner

And now I’m stomping casuals in hero wz😌

gets stacked like your
count, I bet 


soiled account with worgil 
no one in my bracket has reached even 10m total score aside from me 
ye, best server to slacc, trust 
Zamn imagine easy promote i could never 
Nihil zone

Whel
U sss whel now?
no
Do it commit 14m nihil 
Wait 5 months for 3s teddy then 
is yata's lightning or glac better?
I got power of frndship 
No rush
I mean we back to management gray raven
Unless u r bp spammer

Im excited for teddy to sss then i forgot my nana just ss3 so i just buy the shard per month 
Full 3.1 gang 
14m then
Sss6 loona 
so relatable invest


oooh what comps?
my spot 1st
dalao
Dis “my” spot 1st
I hope est doesn’t try to go for 25m df Prayge

just wata and ishy

i didnt know nergi was s+ whel

Is the babylonia map a main story continuation
Y'all are there any read on Rosetta's element later or nah
This isn't the right place
But lucky for u I know the answer
U gotta delete all app data, then when u update the game will let u select stuffs to download
This is PGR CN without video and Babylonia mode data
222 000 going strong 
Apparently, nana needs dlt more than Liv for 222 light 
Nuke rot literally use only gs on liv
this'll probably trigger someone, but what the hell do I do to fix this team, I'm getting awful ppc scores and I don't know where to start
Ain't no snitch
Bro 000 is actual homeless
what, Nanami needing DLT?
I'll be 222 555
3 rot cottie
Nobody can beat me in the homeless department
Bet 
No u can still 2 ult
Without second slam
~~ fortunately liv sig doesn't lock matrix or anything~~
that's new, guess I'll try it
But I do 3 with dlt
Full ult+full ult except slam fits the same as 3 ult with dlt
That's not 000 reso then
#punishinggrayraven #pgrgameplay #legendwarzone #liv #limpidity #light #pgrwarzone #pgr_cn #pgr
Just steal nana cottie from burn fr 
¯\_༼ᴼل͜ᴼ༽_/¯
What is your skych score
That's kinda homeless invest bro
R0 sel no hanying and 5* vero
unfortunately my Nana is S+ but we'll see if this can work
Rosetta in 2025 is mad
What the whel
bad, I didn't even get a screenshot
I missed hanyin patch😭
And pull on fate 
S+ nana 
hi
idk what other people are doing for nana 3 rot but the 3 rot i came up with fits 12s perfectly

||as long as you pretend your ss nana is sss||
but what if my nana is sss
how much df score sss0 invest on legend
20m probbaly with max bald
Share gameplay
Fck whel
is poincare or cottie better on liv for darkflow
Solo liv?
Swap
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or can chill tap 19.5
SSS inv seems good scoring rn
Patton where
Can try running 4Burana 4Patton
Also awful as in what score exactly?
how tf am i getting higher glacio score than df score

Depend what invest
ss3 liv, sss wata, ss0 vera
The glaciation?
ss3 selena ss3 echo sss wanshi
Yeah ngl sss alisa where
Sss alisa=ss0 vera
Would the game run smoothly on a work laptop?
somehow tho my glacio wz is still better than my df score
Hero or legend now?
uh
hero i think?
i honestly don't know the names
but the one where you need top 6 to defend
i got sniped out of top 6 and im like, 9k score away from 6th place now
how is that even possible with your invest
I dnt rlly see anyone in hero rn score higher with 2.132
Df
I see someone score same with my glaciation score but the vera is sss
What's ur score
probably because i don't know what i am doing
for df rn doing
4 bathlon 4 cottie liv
4 alphonse 4 dv wata
4 hervor 2 cottie 2 guin vera
wata is sss, yes
is the set ok at least
like how much worse is it
4 Guin is better because herv kinda does nothing
What's ur score
Need to see if ur at a point where it's set diff
my df score, about 4m i think
but thats probably due to bad rotations
4.88 glacio score
Yeah definitely can score higher with glaciation i mean both
I think rot and qte timing prob
It's not set diff
Learn the proper rots

should i swap vera's bulid to 4guin 2 eins 2 cottie?
it just wouldn't be hypertuned
i mean it will
5m score
not done changing vera but there it is
I only have glaciation reff not bother play df if score lower same invest 
uh
ok yea eins is harmonized
so just swap the 4 hervor for 4guin?
Yea
rip ok
Can you show your vera build for df please?
atk and class, or atk and signature move?
oh damn i just did signature
i had already read the pins...
Its not the end of the world
Welp sorry not me
Wata 1 rot vera 2 rot liv 2 long rot
ok thank i will try
Iirc wata vera liv vera wata liv
i got 11 hours left to try stuff out
8 of those hours i will be sleeping lol
A bit more 



How did you even manage to score the exact same
wave clear ending prob
Wave touxh
no touching
:broke:
How long does it take to 100% babylonia?
Bricked optimization so idk
Infinite if u do like me
Even not a 1% progress
There's babylonia event?
The 3d dorm thing
That's supposed to be a rhetorical question
red oracle question
Do i run 2 cot 2 eins in legend or still 4 cot in luna?
eins
pak whel
4 bath 2 Cot 2 guin
4guin 2cot 2 eins no work
In lowranks
Herv trash 
Not a joke 
8m my score be like 22.32 111
its not a joke
Use eins on wata 
Huh
Kuro just want to make liv limited eh, that tree dont even fully explained on ch37, hassen gatekeeped the info🥀
Sure you better go #🎲・glb-lore
I know hervor trash
Just wanna know dow why recommend 4 bath
Donno if i had 4 ht bath for vera
Im out of ht mats yet
whats the nihil rota for leaped luna? any vid i can refer to?
Invest?
luna ss3r1
ish and vera are ss0r1
Luna rot is same but ish rot not in ranks
ohk

guys,sometime liv just go too faraway the mobs and her skill do no dmg, anyway to fix it?
the dodge cancel + ish move just make she go too far
hopes and prayers
Kuso trash just hope pray we go now
Anyone got ss3 Liz ppc rotation?
https://youtu.be/7e6G5LWeMpM?si=Z089H-W2npAM1Cy2
Kinda can follow that
If not sss wata
Vera rot is 1 ult
■ Minimum Requirements (Characters with Leap must have Leap skill maxed)
□ Luna Oblivion : SS0 or higher, Signature Weapon (No Weapon Resonance)
□ Watanabe Epitaph : SSS0 or higher, Signature Weapon (No Weapon Resonance)
□ Ishmael Parhelion : SS0 or higher, Signature Weapon (Resonance : Dead Line Timing)
■ If there is no Watanabe SSS...
Finding for ss0 is bad if i donno who good
this guy did a nihil rota with vera too. both are similar
Ish and luna rot same
Vera is 2x3b ult 2x3r holdba ult
i see, ty :)
Teddy bot is going to replace Celica bot?
2 full better
Qu actually ded that's crazy 
11m 3 3.1 3 Void
Ik theres like 14m and 15m scores out there but Im not about to mald more Void
Its a lot more fun compared to pre leap Luna
Anyone have a good darkflow rot or vid I can check out? Any rank, just want to get a feel of a good order
liv limpidity's resonance?
Atk and core passive
Ult is for sss and above
Yeah
her infinitas?
Anything will work
doesnt matter
Assuming you don't lose 80/20 yea
is crimson weave worth leap
Not worth it, unless u just want to finish the thunderbolt mission
no
guys
my watanabe has atk + class skill
does it remain same for fire wz
or do i change it for ult like i do in darkflow?
Wata used class since pyroath came
so do i change it to ult for darkflow or not?
No
not even for darkflow?
Ye, his dmg not good enough
yes to not change it or yes to change it
screw it imma keep it as it is
this is all so damn confusing
for void should i run ss3 vera or sss wanta
Wata has already been sentenced to class reso
His leap is making him 100% qte bot, a good qte bot at least
You dont rely on him for dmg anymore
If lilith at ice team using 4dvc 4 guin and wanshi on field will lilith's qte buff ice or dark?
Need Luna as converter so the debuff works cross element (except phys)
This is what i need thx
SSS Wata better
Only If I had Liv 
Does Wata run Shakespeare or DaVinci?
4 alph 4 dv
Man, What should I do for my Void? With SS0R0 Luna, SS0R2 Ish and SS0R3 Vera I could go upto only like 21 floors.
These are what I am working with
use wata instead of vera
But My Wata has like 4 Alphons and 4 DV. Ish has 4 Sothoth and Funny Moustache girl.
Ah fudge....so does the amp run shakespeare/guin?
Any changes on memory tho?
The amp is Ishmael and she is still main dps alongside Luna at nihil
Ishmael run 4Sothoth 4Cottie
Luna 4Cleo 4Cottie (or 2 Cottie 2Eins)
So only Wata is changed with DV?
Wata has always been 4DV holder since the leap
Lmfaooo I still run him Shakes instead of DV
brick
For darklflow it's the same it seems? 4 Alphonse 4DaVinci
Yea youre just late in updating meta
There may be some zaza where that works better, but its almost never
My acc was already bricked when I used my blue selector on her 
Wata permanently DV holder bcs he doesnt deal much dmg anymore
Even at SSS?
I just use that build if I want My DPS to be Vera and Amp as Liv
Yes, he is just old 
lol he is the unc for a reason
Vera is already been dps in fire
Even with Vera DV, she stills deals high enough dmg
Hence shakes given to Vera to boost her dmg more
atleast lvl her up 
Ofc I will. That's why I used the selector.
Accidently
The SSS benefit is more of his tank class benefit, rather than his own dmg buff
Minus 3 sec swap cooldown is big in warzone
btw is there a tier list of damage teams at a neutral baseline? Seems like affix teams are crazy high at the same investment
randalll helper role when?
Okay gotcha. thanks
Just warzone score at SSS+ usually
N E V E R
I would leave and re enter just to lose the role 

I mean like glaciation seems way stronger than ice...ignition over fire, etc....
Thats normal
Affix dmg are usualy 2x - 3x base elemental dmg
Just gotta read their attacker skills
Jesus christ that's way more than I was thinking
finally my first 22 mil
whel
Selena hold dodge is ~4000% dmg phys
But 12000% dmg glacio
As example
monthly + bp isnt whale
what happened to your darkflow zone 
i didnt even try on glacio
You spend
You whel 
i just did glacio
Yeah I just did my glaciation wz and it was wild
f2p dont have human rights
Nuh uh 
Man, I just updated my Unc. Is there any other change? He runs DLT and DD
No dlt ever needed anymore
What should I swap instead?
Bruh I regret not getting that skin but no DLT tho
I spent just so That I could get that skin
Just use resonant echo for longer debuff
Theres also matrix options, but dunno how impactful in warzone
Didn't spend after that at all
RE aint even needed anymore
for void do u do 2 ult or 3 ult luna
I've been using domain
Alright, Changed. Now who is the starter in Nihil team
?
Das why I stay R1 on all tanks 
Dont like wasting mats
luna
Wata, cuz he does nothing
You rotate between Ish and Luna all the time
All tanks that need dlt are bricked ngl
~~ just like Daren ~~
Good thing Im not nuke 
SS0 R3 bullshiet
at least youre not espada
daren doesnt need dlt
SS3 R3 SSS cub

Sasuga as Daren Lover
just sss+ fr fr


Darkflow tank: Wata SS3 vs Vera SS....Wata right? Please don't say Nana SS3
whats the fastest way to beat observer on ppc?
what
sss0 nana
💀
S+ vera
Vera tank guys
Vera Garnet 
why is ur darkflow tank between wata ss3 and vera ss, they both are used on the team 💀
vera is amp and darkflow stack generator
i meant whats the rotation
Solo SSS+ Lilith
WHoops! I mean starter
I just asked
Cuz donno which low invest use
nihil?
what is that score
Oh wait, solo SSS+ Vergil might be faster 
wata is better yeah
Ik, It's crap
SSS0 Liv and S+ luna already cap score

Cuz wata sss gives you one more entry for your nihil dps
thats like pre ishmael ss0 luna and wanshi score
thats like my vera sub dps score
i got 7 mil
As expected from 444 ~~ pilot ~~ players 🐳
Pls don't bully me : (
what invest
SSSR2 Wata, SS0R2 Ish, SS0R0(Sig, no USB) Luna

Now improve more. This was last week btw
https://youtu.be/TOupNbnxh3c?si=Zw_m0OpLPUU7BIW4
#punishinggrayraven #nihil #ishmael #luna #oblivion #watanabe #herowarzone #void #mobs #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone #pgr_cn
Max leap your Luna
what invest
should be 5m
SSS R3 Liv and Nanami
SS3 Ishmael R2
Yea learn from that video I tag
Luna doesnt need dlt now with leap
Ok there seems to be a core issue here
What rotations are you doing bruda
So darkflow rot is unc --> ver --> liv and repeat?

lightning?
overseer you mean?
observer is dark
Again, Ik it's kinda low
I ain't whale
I just spent money for Unc skin
no one here is whel except for nergi
Sure
fk whel

F2P = Free to Pilot 
Definitely, I'll improve
holy sh*t sss0 players are an endangered species :lmaocry:
Can I pilot
i cant find a single one

they all kiwied
SS0 still alive 

What is pilot?
When someone else malds on ur acc
wtf is ss0
I'm joking I'm trash
Nahh, There's gotta be a catch 

you'd be suprise
Nope 
Still got 580k
580k is homeless
how much of the top players are actually just bunch of pilots
Nah, It's cool. My Acc ain't even worth piloting. It's just bricked lol
Explore the 57 characters of Divine_Vera from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Why are we batting dv bot alpha clear
all of them besides a few that get low scores for their invest
Yes, when kurogames catches you 
Bannable offense by rules

No the reason is you have unc skin
hey i have unc skin
skin color?
uh
Unc skin is cool
i dunno
Holy
Ik, Holy Brick
SSS Lilick is easily obtainable
Pretty sure there are F2Ps who have her

Imagine SSS CW before Lilith. Holy Brick

I haven't done ppc
Wait
I'm finished
Ok the retain is not happening
How are we clearing overseer chat
Warzone closed sooner than ppc
With 4DV CW 
I got 1.8m with that
Its enough 
Fk whel
S+ Liv: Limpidity | 12x HT 4 Cottie 4 Heisen 6x Atk 6x Ult | Glorious Afterglow Matrix Lightning Incandescence
S+ Nanami: Startrail | 4 Da Vinci 2 Gloria 2 Eins 8x Atk 4x Class | Domain Deconstruction Resonant Echo Incandescence
S+ No.21: Feral | 4 Guinevere 4 Samantha 10x Atk 2x Class | Incandescence Glorious Spear Superconducting Axial Ray
@muted zenith 
thats s+ 
sss nana 
anyone have a rotation for sss wanta ss3 vera and liv for darkflow
its not the perfect run with sp delay so yeah
also,
apologies with the sound idk what happen
liv- 4 bath 4 cottie
wata - 4 sig 4 davinci
vera - 4 guin 2 cottie 2 ein
what sp delay
clic
style points
Is there a cub tier list?
Liv CUB > Nana > Wanshi > Selena
Those are some of the mandatory CUBs as far as I know
improve the characters by like 30-40%

bug where you get free energy
shing
hold dodge
ult
hold dodge
hold ba
ult
aye thats quite ez

Nuke gave me his juicy sauce last night

Should work 
Alisa Echo free from dormitory shop
whats watas build in darkflow
4 sig 4dv
In pins #📨・meta-help message
ty
so whel

after s+ acc now he got nitro
slander
that could've fed my hungry siblings smh
so whel
Everything I get is for free

so dalao people open their doors for free

is it 4 sig 4 dv or 4Alphonse 4DaVinci
for wata
its the same thing


Wata's sig memo is Alphonse
i was so confused reading signa memo
Sig is signature




Ppl just doesnt bother remembering the new name for each signature memo
Hence they just wrote sig
yeah mb

btw is wata lower reso class for both fire and darkflow










