📨・meta-help

[cobalt prawn]

But Liv yeah

Huge diff

[icy otter]

Oh I also don't sp

[cobalt prawn]

Well I failed so prob same rot as u😂😂

With minor delay because I thought I got it

Anyways I’ll prob mald again tn @real jackal I can send u my rot

We have exact same invest except for 1 reso so

Should be pretty close

[timber frigate]

Hello so which leap skill should i go with first for crimson?

[cobalt prawn]

Don’t leap her it’s a waste

She’s hopelessly outdated

Save ur leap mats for Wata, Luna

[timber frigate]

Crimson weave is outdated?

[cobalt prawn]

Yes

[timber frigate]

Damn guess stuff changed a lot in 2 years

[cobalt prawn]

Dude she’s lightning/Darkflow and the new Liv is lightning/Darkflow attacker lmao

[icy otter]

Her full replacement is currently

[sick flower]

3 years old

[icy otter]

On banner

[cobalt prawn]

Exact 1:1 replacement

[stray siren]

@true pivot After trying it out for a while, Nanami class in SSS0 Nanami is better for SS3 Liv

[cobalt prawn]

I think I scored higher w class on ss3 nanami as well

But I did 4/2 split

[stray siren]

Now I need to learn how to SP delay Liv

[true pivot]

lmao

[sick flower]

is it happening? are we finally agreeing on nanami being worse in something?

[timber frigate]

Yeah but i don't have enough to pull for the current banner tbh

[true pivot]

nanami being class reso doesnt just help liv, it also buffs her in a way

[stray siren]

No more Ult nanami

[slate gull]

there is only one solution

[timber frigate]

Moni

[cobalt prawn]

SS0 nana prob still ult tho

I think ss3 higher can go class

[sick flower]

ss3 liv ss3 nanami still use sig for nanami right

[cobalt prawn]

But I’m not able to test ss0

[stray siren]

Lower rank, class is better imo

[true pivot]

nanami still runs class regardless

[stray siren]

Class

[timber frigate]

Question, like by outadated you mean she can't work on current events or what? Like she is not reliable at all?

[slate gull]

what about S+

[cobalt prawn]

She just sucks compared to everyone else rn

Even before Liv

It was just solo Nana for lightning

[sick flower]

gen 3 standards of damage is way way WAAAY higher than gen 2 standards, a gen 2 unit cant keep up to content made for gen 3 units

[simple dew]

has anyone tried lcw on overseer

[sick flower]

whos lcw

[timber frigate]

[cobalt prawn]

Cw

[simple dew]

some vergil ripoff

[chilly trail]

Lee chong wei

[sick flower]

cro 💔

[timber frigate]

Well that put a dent in my enjoyment lmao

[slate gull]

alright boys, enuff dissing my wife

[simple dew]

you can still use her and get like 1/3 of livs scores

[stray siren]

Well, this is a meta channel, you'll only find meta-solutions

[timber frigate]

Is there any good tier list that can put me in the loop of how things are?

[timber frigate]

Good point

[cobalt prawn]

Basically all the newer units better than all the older ones xD

The way this game works has always been this simple

[slate gull]

look up zexous' pinned tierlist

[cobalt prawn]

There’s also a table somewhere w all the current meta teams

Idk if it’s been updated yet

For this patch

[cobalt prawn]

when is the bot coming back

[slate gull]

when eos

[simple dew]

ignore the under maintenance i cant find a newer edition

[stray siren]

Bot + website soon

[cobalt prawn]

@timber frigate

[timber frigate]

[long spire]

Meta solution is very large wallet

[sick flower]

isnt nihil third spot epitaph and isnt oblivion mdps now

[slate gull]

that's right. go find a good paying job first then come back

[cobalt prawn]

Also ignition there’s weird invests where Dante is better than Nanami

[simple dew]

shut up give me an ondate version then

[cobalt prawn]

like ss3 Dante > ss3 nanami with sss wata and ss3 vero

[icy otter]

Depends and no

[cobalt prawn]

I think it was nuke or rydle that found that combo?

[icy otter]

That's true even without ss3 vero

Afaik

[cobalt prawn]

Yes

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[cobalt prawn]

I just went off my own invest xD

[icy otter]

See dante good guys

Ples pull

[slate gull]

skip

[limber yoke]

how much

[simple dew]

pull where

[cobalt prawn]

But yea ss0 vero sss wata, Dante > nana unless nana sss

[simple dew]

[icy otter]

Dmc rerun

[slate gull]

dmc should stay ded

[simple dew]

who is dmc

[cobalt prawn]

All ss3, sss wata

R1

[icy otter]

Vergin should stay dead donte saves my retains

[cobalt prawn]

Scored much higher w Dante

[icy otter]

Ez 10m on brain dead runs

[limber yoke]

no the score

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1428345326443565179/CFC83B3119AA4E32AF9A35396091FA94.gif

[cobalt prawn]

Oh

Lmao

I don’t even remember

[limber yoke]

is it more than 10m

[icy otter]

232 111 dante 10m

[cobalt prawn]

I think around 10m sounds right

I think I maxed out around 10.2 but I could be making that up

I need to record my scores somewhere😂

[timber frigate]

Basically 90% of my stuff is old or antique tbh

[icy otter]

Restart

[slate gull]

all i see is my waifu

[simple dew]

ancient fossils

[timber frigate]

Is what i am thinking ngl

[limber yoke]

wat

[icy otter]

Restart or eos

[timber frigate]

Fr xD

[limber yoke]

tf

[icy otter]

Yea

?

Whats wrong

[timber frigate]

Eos?

[limber yoke]

hero?

[icy otter]

Leg

[crystal rune]

Confusion has struck evely

[cobalt prawn]

Oh I was talking abt legend too

[limber yoke]

nah man

thats bs

[icy otter]

Brother

Does he know

[noble zinc]

[cobalt prawn]

But my invest was not 232 lol

[limber yoke]

who even do 2.0 dante

[icy otter]

Unless I am high

Oh wait 2.3

[stray siren]

Common misconception: big wallet = good scores

That's why we have a lot of SSS players with horrible scores

[chilly trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/952207230982316032.webp?size=48&name=bitchslapp

[icy otter]

I keep forgetting

[cobalt prawn]

I had 332

[limber yoke]

smh

3s dante

[icy otter]

I can't find the leg run

[cobalt prawn]

Wait no

That’s not right

2.332.3

[icy otter]

I have 10m recorded on hero

[cobalt prawn]

Idk

[icy otter]

2.332 111

[cobalt prawn]

Ss3 Dante

Ss3 vero

Sss wata

R1

Is what I used

[icy otter]

ss3 dante basically ss0

Nergi don't be in chat

[limber yoke]

wdym

[crystal rune]

I am in chat

[limber yoke]

ss3 is qte nuke

[cobalt prawn]

The qte nuke I notice the most is Liv’s tbh

[limber yoke]

hero is frick squishy

[cobalt prawn]

The other ss3 upgrades I barely see

But Liv’s just f-ing shreds

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

Bear is phat

Kill bear

[cobalt prawn]

Dude and vassago in df

W34 and 37 I think

Actual bane of my existence

[icy otter]

Vassago has never trolled me df

It's roseblade

[cobalt prawn]

It got me twice

[icy otter]

Who hits vera

Then run dies

[limber yoke]

tbf ss3 nana can also do that

[cobalt prawn]

But I adjusted my rot and made sure liv was on for those waves

[analog egret]

SS R1 Vero < SSS R1 Alisa?

[icy otter]

ss3 nana is an extra copy mods get him

[stray siren]

Hi in chat, I am queso

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173925642102902864.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ReallyNah

[crystal rune]

Hi queso

[limber yoke]

poor

[stray siren]

[icy otter]

Shut

[cobalt prawn]

I was so shocked when ss3 Dante did better than Nana in ignition

Cuz her upgrade to 20 stack w half bar is so insane

[limber yoke]

u just dont play her right

[cobalt prawn]

I mean.. rydle surely does

[slate gull]

if you just had skipped dante, you wouldnt have been shocked

[cobalt prawn]

https://youtu.be/XHDhrE1PSNw?si=jBLNOqXt646c0YPr

Not rydle

Snazz

[limber yoke]

ye bro
https://youtu.be/uGhq9z47Xr0?si=y1VmEySgIgyVb1Ik

[icy otter]

Wait that vero is r2

Smh

10m is r1 score

[noble zinc]

[limber yoke]

🦈

[cobalt prawn]

It’s also ss0 tho, we have ss3

So r1 also reached 10

[slate gull]

gib chips

[icy otter]

I don't

[crystal rune]

Whos we

[cobalt prawn]

I think I was stuck 9.8 with nana

[icy otter]

I'm ss0 vero

[cobalt prawn]

Oh I thought u were

Lmao

[slate gull]

okay whel

[icy otter]

Wait dlt dante

[crystal rune]

Wdym

I’m f2p

[icy otter]

Bro somebody ping snaz

[crystal rune]

My vero is s0

[icy otter]

He trolled his run

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1337407440815132745.gif?quality=lossless&name=Waaaaa&size=48

[slate gull]

[icy otter]

Nah

2.332 111

[crystal rune]

Whel

[cobalt prawn]

I’m still confused by invest code

[icy otter]

Ss3 dante

3s wata

Ss0 vero

All r1

[cobalt prawn]

So if vero ss3

What would it be

2.333?

[icy otter]

2.3

2.332.3

Or 2.1

2.1 = 2.3

Meth

[slate gull]

whatdafudge

[cobalt prawn]

Wadafak

Lmao

[icy otter]

I don't make the rules gang

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

I just bald at my inv

Then ask nuke to pilot void

@noble zinc ur gonna help retain right

🥹

[cobalt prawn]

I scored like.. 4.6M hero this week😂😂

R0 Luna

[limber yoke]

brick

[noble zinc]

[limber yoke]

teach darkflow

[cobalt prawn]

It’s ok, my total still 21M and 2nd place is at like 10

[noble zinc]

Just SS0 light left then me slack

[crystal rune]

Click

[limber yoke]

also lightning

[crystal rune]

Whel

[limber yoke]

cant

i tap

[noble zinc]

Light copy my rot see wut you get

[icy otter]

21m mods ban that phat whel

[crystal rune]

Tap but

Click

[noble zinc]

Cherrye ud tried

But he bric imvest

1111

S pet

[crystal rune]

I only scored 6.2m total is that good

[cobalt prawn]

8m light 9m df

Kinda bad

For my invest

Nuke I tried ur lightning rot I barely got past 8m lol

[icy otter]

The ss3 livs

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

Nergi is it time to dump on fate again

[cobalt prawn]

I think it’s my qte timing

[slate gull]

bro who stops midway. just go sss all the way

[cobalt prawn]

When I’m on nana

[crystal rune]

True

[cobalt prawn]

Liv randomly nukes waves while Nana hits air

[icy otter]

Oh I need to see nukes light run

[cobalt prawn]

But the timing is so weird

Idk

[icy otter]

If i can replicate we report nuke for hax

[slate gull]

just kidding guys, dont spend on trash game

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/892718733209002005.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worrykekleave

[simple dew]

imma take a stroll in the open world and start balding tomorrow

[cobalt prawn]

Esp early waves Liv qte does so much

[simple dew]

[cobalt prawn]

Pressing it clears the entire thing😭

[slate gull]

go open some chests

[simple dew]

date lucia

[icy otter]

Mid

[cobalt prawn]

I’ll watch it again tho copy timings

[cobalt prawn]

It’s ss3 liv and nana tho

[nova forum]

[cobalt prawn]

U have all ss0 right?

Or no

[slate gull]

need some company?

[crystal rune]

Wait

I’m coming

[icy otter]

@noble zinc the run u sent it private

What

[nova forum]

i need money

[slate gull]

[crystal rune]

No

[true pivot]

h u h ?

[crystal rune]

Hi princess

[slate gull]

watapak is that

[nova forum]

hai wot ur df invest?

[cobalt prawn]

https://youtu.be/auUxYWMsenk?si=ivFuc5vp1e5aHqQO

It’s public

[icy otter]

This is some epico light swap rot

[true pivot]

i havent even played df

[icy otter]

No he sent me a diff vid

7.2m score

[nova forum]

damn

[cobalt prawn]

Oh

[icy otter]

2s liv 2.3 nana

[cobalt prawn]

For ss0 liv

[icy otter]

233

Needed the rot

[nova forum]

should i give lim a sig reso

[true pivot]

glacio is like better for my invest 2.333 anyways

[cobalt prawn]

I have SS pets and still stuck 8.4😭😭

[icy otter]

What

[nova forum]

ye but alisa is washed

[icy otter]

ss3 liv with ss pet

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[crystal rune]

Wanshi also washed

Selena also washed

[cobalt prawn]

I hadn’t bought anything from Norman for months

So I had like

700k of the blue thingies or whatever

[true pivot]

and yet, glacio still scores insanely high

[nova forum]

what was S teddy elemen again

[crystal rune]

At lower invest

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/892718733209002005.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worrykekleave

[nova forum]

ice?

[crystal rune]

Ice ray

[icy otter]

Lao pilot

No slac

[cobalt prawn]

I do have SS nana pet and SS lingya too tho @icy otter

[nova forum]

imma need to see if she can play on glac

[icy otter]

Get 6m both so I can sleep

[nova forum]

[cobalt prawn]

So full team ss pet hehehe

[icy otter]

ss lingya

What the hax

I'm s lingya will ss increase my df score to 9m

[cobalt prawn]

Wait why

Wait omg I’m not even using lingya for df

[icy otter]

I just

[cobalt prawn]

I have everyone on their sig pets

[icy otter]

Ur not supposed to unless ur doing double vera ult start

I do because I don't have the dmg to leak

[cobalt prawn]

Ohh wait that ability that increases dmg of next swap in?

[noble zinc]

Need to get that 7.3 first

[icy otter]

Do it on my acc

Same thing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[noble zinc]

122 inv need

[nova forum]

hai should i give lim 1 sig reso

[cobalt prawn]

Lemme try w lingya Wata instead of bat

[noble zinc]

How many you got rn

[icy otter]

Lingya wata got me a massive

[noble zinc]

Reso

[cobalt prawn]

And double gera start

[nova forum]

5

[icy otter]

40k score inc

[slate gull]

gib 3

[noble zinc]

Can afford more if some chr need R3 next patch?

[nova forum]

ye

[noble zinc]

Then R2 can

[cobalt prawn]

SS lingya tho😏

[noble zinc]

Ss3 good with

But not recommended

[icy otter]

ss lingya 60 atk

[cobalt prawn]

I will take it atp, I’m so close to 10m

[icy otter]

When I'm doing 2 blaze ult

Crazy

[nova forum]

not gonna give attacker more than 1r

[cobalt prawn]

Noo what abt the ability where it gives %dmg to the next swap in

[icy otter]

U have that alrd on tho

Whar

It has 2 main passives

[noble zinc]

Oh you taking abt R1?

Then yes

[icy otter]

The blue orb and the 8% edb

[cobalt prawn]

I think.. I had a diff one on

[icy otter]

Bro

[cobalt prawn]

So I didn’t equip edb until SS

LMAO

[icy otter]

That cub has 2 passives

[cobalt prawn]

IM SORRY

[nova forum]

what does she uses?

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1353896360579170364.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=crashingout

[nova forum]

GA?

[cobalt prawn]

Yes

[icy otter]

My ss only gets me 60 flat atk

On wata

[cobalt prawn]

Well with this edb I think 10M tn hehe

[icy otter]

Insayne

[cobalt prawn]

Maybe I should go Wata into liv

[icy otter]

What is he cooking

[slate gull]

"wata into liv" sounds sus

[icy otter]

4 stack df into liv swap

2 light ults

[cobalt prawn]

Wata - Vera Liv opener but then back to Vera -> Wata -> Liv

Cuz 2 full ult liv should be enough time

For swap timer off cd

[icy otter]

This is some zaza maxing

Do try

[limber yoke]

wdym

i did that

[cobalt prawn]

I’ll try it tn

[limber yoke]

11.97m

[cobalt prawn]

Yoooo I COOKED

[nova forum]

does lim need dlt on df?

[cobalt prawn]

no

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[limber yoke]

if u mess up on sp delay maybe

🦈

[nova forum]

i need guide on sp delay

[cobalt prawn]

Even if mess u only need 1 3p hold d

[nova forum]

[cobalt prawn]

U always have enough orbs

[icy otter]

What diff does wata into vera or vera into wata make

Unless it's ss3 breakpoints

Go ahead phat whels

I'll sit in the corner with my ss0

[cobalt prawn]

The idea is lingya edb on liv instead of vera

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1337407440815132745.gif?quality=lossless&name=Waaaaa&size=48

[noble zinc]

I think geetimg the timing for mobile wait a bit

Can do it more consistently than before

[cobalt prawn]

But it does affect breakpoints too

[limber yoke]

see i told u

its the feeling

[cobalt prawn]

I liked the wave setups more when I looped Wata-Vera-Liv but I didn’t have Lingya

[icy otter]

If nuke has trouble with sp on mobile what is a fraud like me doing

[nova forum]

if it's less than gei dodge spam then i think i should be able to do it

[cobalt prawn]

He has hardware problem tho

His iPad old asf

[icy otter]

Brother he gets more frames than I do

[cobalt prawn]

It’s so hard to do at low fps

[icy otter]

Did u see my run

[cobalt prawn]

Lmao

[noble zinc]

It's difficult for warzone

Sudden fps drop

[nova forum]

also i need memo set for df

[cobalt prawn]

Yes it happens to me too

[nova forum]

2.332.3 123

[cobalt prawn]

My best run I messed it up once

[icy otter]

Just put the hold dodge in the bag

[slate gull]

just get SSS phone

[crystal rune]

Real

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[cobalt prawn]

Woahhh that 12m right there

U got this

I had same but 111 reso shooting for 10m

[nova forum]

wat memo set u talking about

[cobalt prawn]

For who

All?

[nova forum]

all

[cobalt prawn]

Wata on Alph/DV, Liv on Bath/Cottie, Vera on 4 guin 2 eins 2 cottie

[crystal rune]

Fat hwel

[cobalt prawn]

Wata harmo class, liv core, vera 4 ult 2 class

Vera 6 ult also ok

Shouldn’t affect too much xd

[crystal rune]

Or 6 class

[cobalt prawn]

4 class 2 ult

[icy otter]

I run bath vera

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[cobalt prawn]

Ew

Hervor user?

[icy otter]

No

4 bath 2 Cot 2 eins

[cobalt prawn]

Oh u run bath cot

[nova forum]

wtf

[cobalt prawn]

Hm

Idt it’s good

[icy otter]

Well the ht is gone

I have nothing

[limber yoke]

liv can apply bath on vera easily

[icy otter]

I will take my 8.4m

[cobalt prawn]

Her qte is goated

I think literally best in game

[icy otter]

idk the qte don't do a lot at ss0

[cobalt prawn]

I love it so much

[icy otter]

Except mess up my wata blaze

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[cobalt prawn]

Oh ss0 qtes always bricc

[crystal rune]

Skill issue

[true pivot]

amazing story

[icy otter]

I'm gonna try that wata into liv tech

[cobalt prawn]

For Wata I ping qte later

[chilly trail]

Important for the plot

[cobalt prawn]

After I click the first blaze😂

[true pivot]

what in the world is this open world

first im floating in space

now lucia is a posing

[cobalt prawn]

[true pivot]

Cri~1

[cobalt prawn]

Peak gameplay

[true pivot]

oml

[noble zinc]

Pain

Lag

@median sinew

[analog egret]

what's SSS leaped watanabe rotation looks like
all guides are outdated or am i stupid

[carmine reef]

swap ult1 basic hold dodge blaze*4 ult2 swap

[prisma lava]

hello! if I wanted to SS3 x2 characters with the two guaranteed selectors, which ones would be the priority?
can link my profile if that would help with the decision!

[young badge]

is this a troll

[prisma lava]

me?

[young badge]

us

[wanton hatch]

[young badge]

why no honed veteran broke

[icy otter]

@buoyant hornet @trim apex

Ok

Vassago is killable

But I need to sp the whole run for 9m

[young badge]

where 10m

[stray siren]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-lucia-liv-gif-4804815064128199408

[icy otter]

Where's ur 25m

[young badge]

im alrdy past 25m

PepePoint

[icy otter]

On df?

Show

[stray siren]

Nanami and probably Vera or Selena

[young badge]

on total liv_run

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

I'm 20m on 2 onetaps

Ez

[young badge]

🧢

[icy otter]

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[young badge]

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[icy otter]

Gonna be the easiest retain oat

Waiting for the ice dark phys ion wz

Oh

I

I forgor

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where top 1

2x hero stay on demote broke

[icy otter]

Bro it's 35m 1tap whel

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oh wait thats legend

icant

[icy otter]

Yes

Gonna be 3 weeks now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

Unless i get giga sniped

Then I have to play light

[timid breach]

Hi guys ^_^ i have a question. I'm a bit of a spender and I currently have SS3 Liv with sig weapon (h), i'm wondering if i should go for SS6 (and then SSS) or if I should go for SS3 Ishmael? I'm not sure the priority on her SS3 she's just available rn. Liv would be my first SSS :3

[icy otter]

Go all in

sss

What the helly

Bro df needs to die

Why did you do this kuro

[young badge]

im 100

broke

[timid breach]

should i get her cub then too

[icy otter]

Nice try

[icy otter]

Yes

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oh still 97

[icy otter]

Wtf

27m

[young badge]

how'd it not dropped yet

[icy otter]

Phat whel

[young badge]

f3p fr

[timid breach]

Also... Just how awful of a dps loss is Natasha on a <SSS+ Liv? I listened to the wrong person and built her without hei </3

[noble zinc]

Waaa

[spiral merlin]

nat is correct tho

[timid breach]

Is it?

[noble zinc]

Paking lightning

[spiral merlin]

for sss

if lower then heis

[timid breach]

Ive heard it's only good for SSS+ but if it works on SSS then im good

[spiral merlin]

ye

[icy otter]

What is wrong nuke

[timid breach]

i'll commit and swipe >_<!

[icy otter]

What do u see that I done

Dont

[spiral merlin]

sss+ only was like day 1 testing conclusion

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lightning strike

[timid breach]

ty for advice everyone ^_~

[icy otter]

Oh he got hit

Laugh at this user

[young badge]

cartwheel

[noble zinc]

The panick when got there

The got hit by that thing

Least ending got it

7.34

[icy otter]

That's

Good enough bro

[young badge]

ss0 all?

[icy otter]

U said 7.3m

Time to do df

[noble zinc]

22.32 122 s pets

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173925642102902864.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ReallyNah

Oh wait nvm

I need that run

Keep malding light

[noble zinc]

Im done

[icy otter]

Ok don't private this vid

[noble zinc]

Will just upload this

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

Well actually

[icy otter]

Because you didn't have light run I was able to go from 8.4 to 8.7 in df

Seems vassago is 9m breakpoint

[noble zinc]

232 111?

[icy otter]

Yes

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

No sp delay

Slow liv double ult

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

Sp is easy 9m+

But I can't do on phone

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[noble zinc]

Me 2

[ashen parcel]

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[peak pumice]

Damn you got lucky to pit against slackers legend

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Susge

[simple dew]

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[buoyant hornet]

wdym?

[noble zinc]

Was asking for avrg score of df ymfor you invest that

8.7 seems got the ans

[buoyant hornet]

did you do anything differently in terms of strategy or was it just a better run doing the same stuff?

[buoyant hornet]

If I can fix my run's swap times I can probably do an extra vera or wata rotation at the end but idk how much more score that'd be

But hitlag keeps messing up my timings

[noble zinc]

@buoyant hornet see this so bad wave 27 touch 7.34

Wave 25 touch

We got bears too

Yet

[buoyant hornet]

Btw in lightning the exact same invest is scoring an entire 600k+ less in legend than in hero

[buoyant hornet]

wow

[noble zinc]

I know

Cherrye id tried as well

Diff is too much

Higher waves all score is capping

[buoyant hornet]

cooked zone lmao

[noble zinc]

He struggling to touch 9

Here I can 10

[wanton hatch]

What, pull hax

[chilly trail]

Low invest liv seems bad in legend, too many waste dmg

[buoyant hornet]

Doing cottie nanami or just normal basic strat?

[noble zinc]

It's not only for liv all teams

[buoyant hornet]

I tried with cottie nana yesterday in legend and it got similar scores to normal stuff btw

[noble zinc]

Cot

[buoyant hornet]

Even without r2

[buoyant hornet]

(in legend account)

[noble zinc]

Should be better with R2 then no?

[buoyant hornet]

most likely

[noble zinc]

Nana also holds ein

[buoyant hornet]

Apparently teddy is not gonna do anything for lightning so I might just r2 nana atp

idek

[noble zinc]

Hero acc doing?

[buoyant hornet]

Probably

[noble zinc]

Do it plz
I want to try

Maybe will hold posting this

If better there

[buoyant hornet]

I just hope they don't end up releasing a unit soon that makes nana dlt worthless lmao

[ashen parcel]

You know whats funny i only needed 1 Liv to SSS+ her but the game gave me 2 on the final pull

[wanton hatch]

share

[ashen parcel]

I Can't. Kuro wont let me

[buoyant hornet]

I'll count my resos and lyk when I r2 her (I most likely will)

[wanton hatch]

[noble zinc]

When doin

You pak whel 8+ reso

[buoyant hornet]

Lmaoooo honestly if you want you can just reso it rn

[noble zinc]

[buoyant hornet]

I'd end up doing it anyway

So no difference

[noble zinc]

one tap better be 7.2

[buoyant hornet]

But pls update the nanami preset to include the new reso

[noble zinc]

Which acc should I do you got 2

[fallen sandal]

ss3 priority?

[noble zinc]

Nana/liv/selena

[buoyant hornet]

The one in hero

I'll probably do it on both anyways though

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

Oh wait you don't class skill reso

Let's try anyway

[buoyant hornet]

Lowkey idk if I wanna do it yet because ppc still needs ult reso afaik LMAO

Maybe I will if it's not causing issues in ppc

[stiff mist]

what should my limpidity memory resonance be?

do I go all in on blue or tf

or yellow

or some EX

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

Any should do

[buoyant hornet]

6x attack 6x core passive

[stiff mist]

which one ref

[noble zinc]

Oh memo reso

[stiff mist]

what the

[noble zinc]

Read wrong again

[stiff mist]

Precision attack then core passive which idk what that looks like but yeah?

okay

Precision Attack not Enhanced Power rii?

[buoyant hornet]

Dont use red usbs on atk resos lol just roll for them if you have a lot of siege currency

[noble zinc]

Any attack and core

[buoyant hornet]

And save red usbs for bottom resos

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't matter which one of them just settle for any one that has atk

[stiff mist]

okayy

and simulated siege stuff hmm

[buoyant hornet]

I didn't mean guild stuff btw was talking about the farming shop stuff lol sry

Wrong wording

[stiff mist]

wait farming like resources?

the one that you like

[buoyant hornet]

Simulated battlefield or whatever it was called

[stiff mist]

auto clear and sh?

oh

wait huh

what do I buy to do my upper resonances

with that currency lol

[buoyant hornet]

Just open the normal reso UI and it'll ask you which currency to use to roll for resos

6* memory shards or spinning tops or shop currency

Don't open the UI that only allows red usbs that one is different

[stiff mist]

hmm.

oop finally fixed it

[noble zinc]

@buoyant hornet ok its better

no sp delay done no wave mapping there as well

Class skill nana and

Yeah big jump will give

You try your now to beat this 7.2

[prisma lava]

thanks!

[normal sierra]

is the ~60k score difference better part?

[noble zinc]

Yeah cuz that whatever done

[normal sierra]

ohh so the other score is mald score?

[noble zinc]

He tried yes

full mald maybe not cuz we don't know proper roation for SS0 liv

I can get 4 more waves pretty sure

[normal sierra]

how do we do "full ult" for midliv?
by using all those white orbs or is it something else?

[carmine reef]

ye 4 white orbs and then hold basic until you have max ult stacks

[noble zinc]

[normal sierra]

ohh oki, that doesn't sound too complicated

time to one tap wz

[carmine reef]

ye none of liv is complicated conceptually

[normal sierra]

and short ult is just skipping the whites + hold basic, right?

[carmine reef]

non

short ult is hold dodge

[normal sierra]

like the fast ppc rota

ye, that included

[carmine reef]

no like

ult form hold dodge

different thing entirely

[normal sierra]

isn't it hold dodge > ult2 when enuff energy?

[carmine reef]

yeah

i guess i misinterpreted what you said, i thought you were saying it was just skipping the whites but still doing hold basic

[normal sierra]

ohh wait, so we don't do hold dodge if we do full ult?

[carmine reef]

correct

[normal sierra]

ohh, now I get it

[carmine reef]

hold dodge is just for fast rot

for full rot, whites+hold ba gets both max stacks and energy to ult

no need to do any more

fast rot is not many stacks, it's just energy to go fast ult

and fast rot eats a lot more orbs

[normal sierra]

and I saw someone mentioning that we can dodge cancel whites, but is that worth/required to do?

[carmine reef]

they were lying to you

i tried dodge cancelling them and it breaks

the combo chain is interrupted so you end up with less stacks

like if you didn't need the stacks dmg you could do it i guess, but

[normal sierra]

so just let em do their thing, no dodge cancel
well, better for me, less inputs

[carmine reef]

it's one of those things where there's a lot of bonus dmg for being at max

at most i just dodge cancel the blue

but even that is not like, super impactful

[noble zinc]

[carmine reef]

i just like doing it at the same time as holding forward because i feel like a lot of the time liv ends up a mile away from the enemy

so i use it as an opportunity to dodge cancel and gapclose at the same time

[normal sierra]

ye, that happens even in 2 rot ppc
paking liv ends up in the next galaxy away from the boss after the 1st ult2

[carmine reef]

[normal sierra]

she gets so far away, her core/orbs and even ult1 will miss completely lul

[carmine reef]

yeah

[noble zinc]

Theres also this mf

[normal sierra]

[carmine reef]

dude

that bear has done that to my ult TWO

i thought i was going crazy the first time it happened but then it happened multiple times, in df

the bear will somehow dodge out of ULT2

[simple dew]

my iq is 39

[noble zinc]

[carmine reef]

like it gets hit by the first few ticks and then bro just DIPS

[simple dew]

what is going on

[carmine reef]

tilting beyond belief

[normal sierra]

I really hope this is just a bug and they will fix it, cuz this is way too annoying to deal with

[noble zinc]

Bear jumping to heaven

[sick flower]

that bear messes up my epitaph start on darkflow 😭

[simple dew]

[hasty bluff]

woaah

nice sticker

[hasty bluff]

so teddy ice confirmed ?

daren never getting eos ig

[spiral merlin]

check back in january when we find out we have dark tank rosetta

[stray siren]

January 2027

[muted zenith]

whats Liv's rotation for darkflow and lightning?

[normal sierra]

one tap 9m zappy zone, unga bunga mode lul

[hasty bluff]

i am praying for a dark tank rn. cannot get daren waited too long for dark tank

at least ayla eos , i can probably use her wep for reso

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[spiral merlin]

Ayla eos until you realise teddy dps better than qu

[wise mango]

can anyone send me a link of a video that shows new liv sss rot in wz???

[normal sierra]

how do I make midliv do darkflow dmg on her 2nd rota?

[peak pumice]

Need more darkflow stacks

[carmine reef]

do full rots in df, she should generate enough stacks on her own to maintain df state for 2nd rot

[normal sierra]

ohh, I did 1 full + 1 short, if I do 1 fast wata rota, seems like I get enuff stacks with that

but will try 2x full next time

[buoyant hornet]

Btw I find that sometimes sp delay causes worse outcomes on some waves because it ruins qte alignment on liv's hold basic in 2nd rot

[noble zinc]

Always sp delay bad yes

That hold dodge damage also

Need

[buoyant hornet]

french

[hasty bluff]

good news

[noble zinc]

Here and there for breakpoint

[hasty bluff]

i don't have qu

[noble zinc]

Qte's also yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Oh nvm I forgot this is long rot short rot lol

[hasty bluff]

will use a teddy , wanshi ayla team idk

[buoyant hornet]

I don't even think sp delay does anything for that

[noble zinc]

I went full long double

[normal sierra]

do we do wata rota here btw, is that optimal? or just activate df on him at start and leave him be as qte bot til the end?

[buoyant hornet]

Just loses damage from hold dodge and puts r0 liv in orb deficit afaik

[noble zinc]

Wut invest full?

[buoyant hornet]

What invest/strat

[noble zinc]

[normal sierra]

2.332.3 122
strat? unga bunga kek

[buoyant hornet]

Wata swaps yeah

Unless you do hervor vera strat for whatever reason

[normal sierra]

nahh, no hervor on me vera

[devout reef]

someone have the photo with the meta teams?

i really need

[normal sierra]

ehh, got 8m with absolute unga bunga now, so won't bother with it until next round
slacc bracket anyway

[devout reef]

Thx Rapid

[carmine reef]

kek

i think your invest should be like 11-12m

[buoyant hornet]

Oh right zex mycledra gave me the link to editing the team infograph if you're interested in weighing in

[carmine reef]

he asked me about it too and i'm going to give you the same answer

why would i, when i've already been maintaining my own teams sheet for longer than that infographic has existed

and which is still in pins

[normal sierra]

I'm 13m above 2nd place, and all of them below seem to be casuls/newbies, no need to mald this week

[buoyant hornet]

The way I had literally no idea

[carmine reef]

[buoyant hornet]

[buoyant hornet]

LMAO

[carmine reef]

it's been pinned for over a year, it was in celica's links command, it's referred to constantly

[normal sierra]

meowmoji

[buoyant hornet]

Me always missing random ass big details

Speaking of, teddy bot soon omg

Finally

Got so tired of having to manually open huaxu for info

[carmine reef]

lowkey it's been "teddy soon" for almost 2 months

[buoyant hornet]

Nah was still a work in progress back then and no real estimates, now it's actually almost done

[carmine reef]

no

[buoyant hornet]

Just doing finaly touches iirc

[carmine reef]

the very first hard date given was oct 1

[buoyant hornet]

Oh fr? lmao

[carmine reef]

yes

then that went and passed

then another hard date was given

day 1 of liv patch

[buoyant hornet]

Iirc there was also trouble with getting bot greenlit for this server

[carmine reef]

well that's come and gone as well

[buoyant hornet]

I mean true but we do know for sure it's practically almost ready at least

So like it's coming any day now methinks

[carmine reef]

i don't know if we do know that

because again, that's what was said 2 months ago too

the amount of qualifiers on "for sure practically almost ready" like come on

[buoyant hornet]

Nah fenrear has been talking to us about it for a while and been adding some stuff

And fabio was adding the latest character info

[carmine reef]

character info is not what was holding the bot back, whatever it was

if it were then the bot could've been released pre-liv easily

[buoyant hornet]

Well it'd be kinda funny if it's released on the same day as teddy patch

[carmine reef]

day 1 of teddy patch: "ok, teddy bot will go live on rosetta patch"

[buoyant hornet]

I just want my ppc score calculator back and randomly being able to spawn descriptions to shut down random misinfo

[buoyant hornet]

Btw have you seen teddy's v1 disaster

[carmine reef]

i just heard she's kinda weak

[buoyant hornet]

s+ team was scoring worse than old comps on the first day of testing

[buoyant hornet]

She's giving worse than veronica almost

[carmine reef]

crazy how they haven't released an actual good unit since vera, and that was only because of glb

[normal sierra]

they better fix that teddy or ima join the 🥝 squad

[buoyant hornet]

And I've given up hope in kuro fixing their character balance in beta v2 and v3 lmao

[carmine reef]

crazy how cn hasn't released an actual good unit since selena

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I'm lowkey pissed

[noble zinc]

Wut was SSS nana solo score

[buoyant hornet]

Vera was intended to be plain bad

[noble zinc]

Ight

[buoyant hornet]

@cold walrus

[buoyant hornet]

I don't get what they're doing anymore lmao. Pissing off casuals by making the game/community a hellhole and pissing off metaslaves by making characters bad

And what's annoying is they'll get away with it anyway

Because wuwa

[waxen vine]

So I took a break from PGR, and I came back once I heard a new Alpha is coming. But I’ve got a couple of questions. First, the new banner ‘Phylotree’ has Liv Limpidity, and she’s the first actual limited character. What I’m concerned about is whether all new characters are going to be on Phylotree from now on, and if that happens, what will happen to the event banner tab? Are we entering a pay-to-win arc now? And the most important question: what are the chances that a new Alpha in the future will either get a Leap or have some kind of free way to obtain her?

[buoyant hornet]

They don't even have to care about being good to players anymore

[buoyant hornet]

It's unlikely that "all" characters will be phylotree

But it certainly won't just be liv

And it's still a problem in the grand scheme of things

[cold walrus]

8-8.5m

[waxen vine]

the biggest issue i see is the limited tag

[buoyant hornet]

Also alpha being free to obtain is next to impossible atp

They'll wanna milk the money from her popularity

They only gave away free crimson weave because she was already ancient and heavily outdated

[waxen vine]

yeah i ment like after her release in 6 months maybe get leap?

[cold walrus]

Wdym because of global?

[buoyant hornet]

And as a way to appease new players who joined pgr because of dmc

[buoyant hornet]

No character ever gets a leap this fast

[waxen vine]

true they had planned to boot her entirely with liv limpidity

[carmine reef]

glb made vera good

[buoyant hornet]

1.5+ years after release minimum

[cold walrus]

Rare global w

[carmine reef]

if you only considered cn's interpretation of vera on release she would also be part of our recent streak of mid ass units

[waxen vine]

well there goes one of my plans

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah cn beta testers should've pretended v3 veronica was bad

"omg they attempted to buff her but look how bad she is she can only do 1 rot and her yellow whiffs" or something

[buoyant hornet]

Just get her normally

Playing the game consistently allows anyone to obtain all characters on release

[waxen vine]

true she is like after 5 months from now?

[buoyant hornet]

Most likely 6.5 anniversary

[cold walrus]

V3 vero was very good. They shouldnt release v4

[buoyant hornet]

Which is around 5 months yeah

[waxen vine]

ah next year april?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I meant v3 oops but yes

[buoyant hornet]

I can't really calculate the exact month rn but around then yeah

[waxen vine]

if its in april it will be peak cus around same month cw tsubaki coating came out

[buoyant hornet]

Oh speaking of, make sure not to mistake the global character timeline with the original release timeline, Luna got her leap in less than a year in global but that's only because of sync

By CN standards it was around the normal time a character would get leap

[waxen vine]

yeah that came to my mind after you mentioned "no one gets them in 6 months" thing i remembered might be cus of sync

[carmine reef]

year old leaped characters being better units than new release units

[waxen vine]

which is 1.5 years xD

[buoyant hornet]

Literally

[wise mango]

Why are old memorie sets so good that they are still being used?

[carmine reef]

they're good because they're good

what else can u say abt it

[buoyant hornet]

Wata already does a better job as a tank than half the other gen 3 tanks lmfaooo

And luna became a walking nuke

Hanying leap trust

[carmine reef]

luna playstyle change and flexibility is highkey goated

[buoyant hornet]

She won't be clunky to use and will do more damage in less time and get shred field on qte

Gonna make veronica better tbh

[carmine reef]

i think the most satisfying leap since empy

[waxen vine]

seems like game is a mess right now

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah her slower stuff was a product of its own time, now meta shifted too much towards speed hax and she needed to catch up (and she did)

[carmine reef]

luna was still pretty fast for modern standards tho

[buoyant hornet]

empy leap was ridiculous tbh

[carmine reef]

pre-leap could still fit 2 rot in amp buff, that's better than a lot of units can

[buoyant hornet]

Eh true although depending on the strat it was sometimes easy to face some orb problems if you do that

It wasn't smooth at all

[carmine reef]

it was smooth for me and my ss0 ass

[buoyant hornet]

And of course her random autododge on hold basic

[carmine reef]

[buoyant hornet]

Paying 50 rc for extra orbs fk whel

Caught redhanded doing orb haxx

[carmine reef]

you had whale nihil long before me

[normal sierra]

new meta is time stop slop on every move, but only on sss, coming soon

[carmine reef]

coming soon, he says

like it hasn't already come

[buoyant hornet]

Mind you you're the one with phat whel ss3 luna smh

[buoyant hornet]

"soon" was 2 weeks ago

[normal sierra]

nahh, wait for the orbs and basic attack getting time slop too, that will be peak pgr right there

[carmine reef]

that reminds me

[normal sierra]

and then combine on field time slop with qte time slop for time reversal, superb idea

[carmine reef]

feyer you said luna was too slow for modern standards but

[buoyant hornet]

I mean not TOO slow but not ideal

[carmine reef]

if you look at our actual modern standards

they're all REALLY slow

like all the recent units have WAY longer rotations than gen2 did on average

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I was thinking about that

Nanami and wanshi come to mind

[carmine reef]

vera (as intended)

bianca

veronica

[buoyant hornet]

I genuinely thought nanami would get screwed by her slowness until I remembered she can just adapt with cottie

[normal sierra]

not just those, literally, almost all of em got long arse rotas

[carmine reef]

liv

[normal sierra]

especially on pleb ss0

[buoyant hornet]

yeah true

[carmine reef]

literally the whole past half year is characters with longer rotations than all of gen2

[noble zinc]

Mine no more pleb ss0liv

[buoyant hornet]

They tried to move away from timestop spam in favor of more damage outside of timestop but then

We get cases like bianca

[carmine reef]

and if you go back farther there's lots of slowpokes like nanami wanshi lucia too

[buoyant hornet]

Where her sss is broken BECAUSE it allows timestop abuse

[carmine reef]

if anything, the past year has only had a few exceptions like ish and lilith and selena who have faster options

[buoyant hornet]

You spend around 6 seconds holding her blue orb otherwise

And then a few extra seconds setting up for a reverse ult