#📨・meta-help
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cant wait for the alt coating to be just her feet and we get funny posts
And smoother
what weapon reso should i use for Veronica Ignition?
And more colour vibrant
SUMMER TEDDY
instead of boots
There's nothing


guve teddy liliths legs
At the end of the day

teddy doing lilith's pose
Teddy is liftable size

She can't even thigh grab bruh
Too short

Let alone grab and slam
Atleast
They kept her true to Decryptor
WHAT
Yes
hi
She's shorter than what she was
Hello
She was already a loli
Now she's Super Loli


Except it doesn't work cuz Unity has no Dynamic Lighting
Like how Snow Petals is Crepuscule

Looks like a dark character
- Physical
S Teddy looks dark
Is Ice
rosetta should have been ice
Liv feels like ice characters
Then kuro proceed be like dark tank and then kamui ice attacker 
Like the way her ending animation feels like ice characters
"no but the hold dodge in base form"
Why hold dodge
Rosetta has fiery aspects
selena felt like an ice character as well,
till she starts swinging her piano, banging on the enemies
Tell me how's that Ice?
I mean she's still have glaciation affix so
How a digital bear
ICE
at this point their effects and designs doesnt even match their elements anymore
Also
Teddy's orb neutral?

I only see White Orbs
yes teddy has no orb rng
Look man
I hate Kusogakis
BUT
TEDDY
SHE'S PEAK
I blame Wata for this
Dude started it

wata seems fine
Wata looks pretty fiery
bianca...
He still had some fire effects
sigh...
Oh yea
How's she not dark
How is splashing enemies with Water
DARK

her design doesnt scream dark at all
Design doesn't
Darkmode effects does
at least lamia's design has a bit of dark feeling
you know what feels dark
bianca had nothing looking like dark
Our future
My heart
eos

Where's me dark tank
this is a dark unit
Depression ⛓️ 🖤 ⛓️
No
Your heart will go on
oh yea stigmata
Teddy isn't peak
visibly phys ehat are you on
She is
alisa isnt peak

exucalibaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Physical team once like peak beam laser team until selena and hanying come, and they become music team
teddy got the height reduction shoes
shes basically 10% shoe
Liv is peak
No she isn't
But I don't like her frame name
She must die
Wtf does limpidity mean
Flow
Oo
Zamn
Means complete clarity/transparency
limp
oh yeah she gives me the clarity alright
People are making so many names for her
Baby gronk rizzed up livvy dunne?
Oohh
Ok makes more sense now
Also stop making it weird for liv

Cute daughterwife
i feel like jack should be more protected than wife lul

time to slaughter the other servants
damn went from 8.3m to 83m omg dalao 
Guys heisen for Liv even if I am thinking of getting her to SSS? she is SS atm
Does SS3 Piano play any differently than SS in glacio?
Keep on Heisen
What's this inv
Wait is that ur acc
It better not be
yeah
Since Teddy is getting the Lilith treatment, should I go for SS3 Liv?
I have 34k BC and 16k RnD tickets
Why
Fluc tends to make a score gap between servers yeah
So checks out
Is high fluc better or worse
Whel complaining
Idk what fluc does
Depends
R u saying other regions score more
If we got eu fluc it would’ve been 28m df ofc I’m upset
Usually higher makes better score but also sometimes higher means horrible breakpoints
Completely depends on the zone+invest specifics
I'm the one who got 8.3 and then he got the same score lmao I really doubt it can go much higher
No
Maximum 8.4 if it's a perfect run
It's 8.6 min on that inv
Brother my run was trash
I have it recorded I'll post it as unlisted today
We'll see
Zex kept telling me 9m
Yeah we can't just make hyperspecific score estimates on zones completely different from our own lmao
Just like I got 600k more in lightning on the exact same invest but the only difference was bracket
Hero got higher than legend for breakpoint reasons
How else would kuro make things confusing amirite
Like I know it seems vassago is unkillable
But it is
The 8.6 is in there
If only wata activated qtes on ult1 bro
Ok my recording exists but the sound is cooked
5m of no sound wz coming up
Yeah vassago moment
Maybe

@buoyant hornet what starter
Are you both doing
With both of ur dalao hands I think it's possibly rot diff
ss3 selena have alot more leeway and variation
granted this does need 3s0 teammates
in a nutshell,fluctuation(fluc) just means tankier mobs
tankier mobs (more hp) = more score given
Doesn't that balance out
since wz score calc give alot of points on hp dealt
ofc no
there's also what umbran said
wave breakpoint
yep
also means that your score will be lower than those who has higher fluc in other servers
So we have
dmg overflow
Lowest fluc
Doesn't matter
I don't do damage either
No overflow

So na should potentially score higher
But higher fluc could honestly change the starter
Lot of variation with df
What main variations should I stick to?
I know when I was SS I did flower and orchestra, but how does that change?
Lower fluc means you can have the same wave progression but still get a lower score due to less total damage dealt. Later breakpoints would also give less score because of that
ss flower ult?

Ok so I blame not getting 8.6m
On that
Yea u can after pinging 3 whites and then blue ping
But not the same as ss3 
well
it kinda just depends on the waves
just refer to azriel's glacio video
https://www.youtube.com/@azriel4200
wouldnt 2 orchestras be better
If WZ in the early stages yes
ss0 glacio cant say
@buoyant hornet ss0 lao
ss0 ss3 too broke for me
Whel
wehl
whel
whel
I only trust glaciogod mercuryw
Ryddle me this Batman
Azriel as it may seem, all of this has just been a facade
Doesnt glacio lock selena to a 1 ult rot?
Selena ss3
And Selena ss3 vs Bianca ss3?
Selena
Is Selena ss3 that good?? It felt underwhelming while reading 😅
K thanks
Will get Selena 1st
Also Ss3 Bianca or Ss3 Pyroath
Instead of doing 2 orchestra rot, you do 1 flower 1 orchestra
Ohhhh so that 2 orchestra changes to just 1 understood
Ty
I think Pyro is the play, but Id rather save bc
Well I'll be honest I just wanna sss+ or SSS my fav characters cuz in PGR the powercreep isnt that high tbh
K I'll get ss3 Pyroath 2nd
Thxx
in glacio?
no clue tbh

glacio can't do 2 rots per swap

Unless you meant 2 hold dodges
ss0 selena glacio has so many rotation pathways but the absolute most basic one is just hold dodge > 6 white orbs (while proccing hold basics) > ult2
But there's a bunch of other things that can be done
is tedy new form buff nihility and radiance?
Feyer, do you fit in 2 hold dodges in the middle and end of a rot?
ice and raydiance/lightning
wdym?
yea me too, I went 8.45 to 8.46, but can still get higher
I'm confusion
Dam no dark 🥀
ryddle me this gyatman
im a skibidi with no toilet
what am i?
why would she buff dark 😭
Shut up
At like the third and final selena swap in
do you do:
hold dodge > 6 white > hold dodge > ult2
ye
(Sometimes)
Nuke
Depends lmao glacio is really confusing
in glaciation, when do i need to proc alisas qte? Does it overcap the gauge or do i need to wait for it to drop a bit?
There's never a magical answer for when to proc qtes
It completely depends on the scenario
Need to wait but if you don't even need the extra gauge extension then it doesn't matter
Depends on what rot you're using
as for liv's qte, does the timestop affect the whole field or only the timer+enemies (basically if i use it on nanaknight's slam, does it pause her mid swing or does it go through?)
pauses everything
Makes some inputs kinda janky depending on the character on the field so you need to be aware of that lol
so the main upside is to kill a wave that's low?
because outside of that it's just timestop for the sake of cinema
I mean you have the option to make it behave like a normal qte with a passive animation that doesn't proc a cutscene
oh? really?
Although most people stick with the timestop for slightly better cooldowns on memory effects
i see
Yep in skill menu, qte tab
What context?
Depends on the boss and the run
And specific invest including the amp
I meant in general, as a rule of thumb kind of thing, feral is at SS3 R1
Extremely hard to pin down an answer for this one tbh
But generally with ss3 liv it's nice to do a rotation on her then swap to ishmael to use liv's qte nukes
If it's enough to kill with those alone
hi pookie
wait, you don't even use 21...
In that particular strat no lol
poor kid
But sometimes that's not enough to kill and you need to do stuff with nanami to actually kill
In that case ishmael isn't usually needed as much
wata starter but he's also doing a quick rotation to build some stacks
understood, whale for SSS liv to make it easier it is
Wata starter + quick rot > Vera 1 rot + prep one blue 3ping for next swap
Then the rest of vera swaps are 2rot
Wow poor Strats
as for fire, my vera is SS R1, ishmael is SS3 R1, is it worth it to use ishmael over vera? (Lucia SS3 R1, Wata SSS3 R1) in WZ? or am i loosing too much damage from her field time
Vera is main dps
too much whel smh
really? I was told she hits like a wet noodle.
Yea
If lucia can do 1 slash ult then kill with qte nukes alone then ishmael is better but otherwise vera is the main dps
But in wz
a nuclear wet noodle maybe
Not puh puh suh
ur doing something wrong then, cuz she farts and whole ass waves die
even at SS? compared to SS3 and SSS3 team
Yes
yes
Ss vera > ss3 pyro
Half of pyro's dmg contribution in your context is qte nukes lmao
Pyro is still a good subdps but her own onfield dmg is way lower than vera
If I had ssr1 ( I got r2) I couldve still scored 7 mil+ in fire wzs
ok, and wata is even below then i'd assume
Wata SSS ideally
(assuming that you're using vera's double rotation strat ofc)
Single rot davinci build is horrible
Yeah
What if
ok, that's what i've been runing
Cursed
Wata
Wata
Dw alot of early vera vids on yt had her on 4pc da vinci
Now you know discord exists

Still do xdd
Lol
Yeah this lol her double rot strat wasn't even a thing until she was almost out on global
Rydlao
People didnt believe vera was the main damage dealer noone wanted to believe it
istg
is there any guide/spreadsheet for wz rot on her?
Maybe
Darkflow cursed builds
I gotchu, I think
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Section :
0:00 Note
0:05 Pyroath Guide
0:58 Epitaph Guide
2:45 Geiravor Guide
4:22 Siren Guide
6:49 Pulao B...
This one aint bad it goes in slow motion
nice, thanks
Oh i forgot you're obiz whel acc now
Wdym its f2p
I will slap you
omg by extarialao? 
Extaria the true savior of fire frfr trust
20m score with ss3 dante ss0 vera ss0 wata believe it
Still waiting for boss fire zone so rydle can cook
would SS0 2 darwin, 2 patton, 2 Condelia be better? harmonize hanna of course
i'm going to rail you
I'm gonna kill myself after reading this :3
Uh what
wgat
Ragebait so good made cry
lmao y'all falling for ragebait LMFAOOO
But still it looks so cursed even knowing that
Hey bro blame my zaza invest kek
Wait are you seriously using that contraption
Ss vero doesn't even do anything to help lol
After that one build i saw yesturday i dont know what to believe anymore
And i sure as hell didn't have any intent on getting that fraud to 3s
Some guy built that for liv
What the frick
i see the vision, but why?
Lol
10 pings to access ult1
Pretty accurate
Imagine this game without cottie
Df gameplay
eww
cottie is hillarious, i think it makes up about 25% of all my memories at least
Da vinci cottie the goats
lmfao yeah
Damn near every unit has/had a use for cottie
Even wanshi uses cottie in niche sss glacio ppc
ngl at this point they might as well make dv base kit on amps
Cottie is so good I use 8 piece
That Strat doesn’t work anymore
That's what I've been saying
Oh why so
gen 4 amp passive predictions
Wanshi bricked energy gain cant 7s ult with cottie anymore
so, assuming i want to build fire team now,
Vera SS0 R1 (dlt i guess), 4 hervor, 4 cottie
Pyro SS3 R1 (dlt) 4 Hera, 4 Cottie
Wata SSS3 R2 (dlt, Domain Deconstruction) 4 Shakespeare, 4 DV
this right? (or do i drop Shakespeare for Alphonse)
i thot still work
You don't use hervor in vera swap team
She uses Shakespeare
Then wata use Alphonso dv
Tho idk about dltless vera
Same
But for me it's just not beating my solo nanami for some reason
Maybe it's just because I'm poor
worst anniversary char they released
It’s alright. Veronica (cough, cough)
Her kit is meh, getting good at SP delay is what made it better but that mechanic wasn't intentional
Ik
What's discord harmo build 
does vera do 3 rot in darkflow with hervor equipped?
I got a cursed question, SS Noan with sig, who do i put on as a pet and do i evne swap with the trials uniframes or do i solo?
Darwin
Oh wait
I got it flipped
Just use sigma for the harmo
5% edb 5% phys
Beeg
Any lightning element cub will work on him
Do swap, uniframe gets massive buff from each swap
ok, his ult feels like a potato, do i keep spaming his core passive?
ew manuals... is what my lazy sister would say. Come on, get in the Lada.
every three ping you can tap basic to fill hi gauge. If you fill the gauge more than the previous three ping you get one stack, at three stacks he can do big damage with the next three ping + tap basic.
w team?(newbie)
i mean, it aight? where the hell did you get empyrea though
cause thats not a good investment
Base S R3
oh my god i didnt even see that
s0 r3 
he doesnt have ss so he probably needs cottie to rotate
Let him cook
holy god
The more I look the worse it gets
I just noticed wth 😭💀
damn yall, you should correct me🙄
go on
ye im doing it
2nd don't invest in empyrea at all
k
noted
Just use her as a QTE bot till you get Vera
Atmost you can put guinvere or whatever the hell that memory's name is 4pieces
And 2 pieces some other support memory
On empyrea
damn didn't knew that vera is the last one
So atleast she gives some dmg boost to Pyroath
how much is the dmg dif between SS and SS3 Liv
thanks @spring seal
If I'm correct it's approximately 40%??!?
I might be wrong sry
Yww but wait one more thing
Change the weapon harmony to cottie if u already have 4 heraclitus pieces in Pyroath
And once you get Pyroath to SS remove cottie memories
And use the fire boosting memory
worth or nah xD
oki
How many pulls u got?
Also hypertune your memories once you have done the above steps
got around 38k
I've done it
U hypertuned cottie aswell????
uh huh
Then sure go for her
its alright bru
U only need 1 more pull to ss3 so why not
It is alright cuz your in honeymoon period
yepyep
Once that beginner stuff is gone the pain you have to go thru is immense
So please use hypertune mats responsibly
I'll keep that in mind
fate or themed
thanks bru @spring seal
WWAHAHAH
Themed
Please never spend on fate for your own safety I warn you
have u ever? xD
I haven't and I'll never will
It's better to go pity at 60 than go 70+pulls
And that's the bare minimum
You mostly get your desired frame around 80-90
heck almost tried
baii
Feel like im building the infinity gauntlet
bathlon or cottie bottom?
K whel
Where I can find Luna’s rotation?
pins
wow so f2p 
That's where it's cooked
Both u an nuke trolling up
Lmfao
Wdym me i don't even know df play

Oh btw what should I use for my nana memory now that Liv is already using 4 heisen
Cottie
4 Cottie?

4 piece hershell 4 piece cootie
cookery
Alright
Dont cottie 

because she doesnt need cotite
Cottie
Huh
use herschel heissen, don't use cottie nanaknight on lightning
well certain someone IS doing nanami cottie zaza in light for 3 rot
Ig it's bad
How much orb would you actually need for that

Too much cooking
omg it ryddle me this batman
I somehow have enough recycle shards for 6* weapons.. Which is more important, new Liv's sig or echo?
Liv
recycle shards
ryddle me this gyatman
im a skibidi with no toilet
what am i?
oh god


A corpse when I kill you after saying such horrendous crap
is this what happens when you kiwi

so there's a new ishmael rotation or something?
🥝
🥝
The gamemode is perm, it even has a dedicated section in challenge
Those rewards I'd assume not given the timer lul
nanami startrail
no get nana from thunderbolt manual
once is a lifetime year
pyro leap trust

So I need a character that I won't regret choosing
Nanami/Vera
vera geiravor is a good pick
Ideally both Nanami and Vera Gay
If u are willing to grind BC for Thunderbolt banner, u can get Nanami there, so u can grab Vera Gay from Standard
So confused rn
Do u wanna grind BC for Nanami?
Yes = Get Vera Gay from standard
No = Get Nanami instead
pull Bianca on basic
pull Nanami on event tab (forgor the name)
So I'll need nanami in the end?
Best unit in the game
ideally yes
Damnn
Vera Gay is also up there
I should choose her then
he won't have affix zones yet tho
he
U can get Nanami from different source(Thunderbolt) but u cannot get Vera Gay from that
Meta is meta
waifu is meta
Oh Qu Shukra, you disgrace—
Trash to fight, and trash to play.
A boss so cheap, a unit so weak,
The game itself begs you to leave.
You steal my orbs, you kill my flow,
A bugged-out hack—who coded this hoe?
"Useless without SS and sig,"
A paywall joke, a scam so big.
I pulled for you - my darkest hour,
Like chasing salt instead of flour.
Witness her, be weak compared to Wanshi too.
Now watch her fail at all she do.
The Queen of Kowloong, lo and behold, but all I see,
is a stupid baboon.
They hyped you up, then dropped this mess,
A walking scam in an S-rank dress.
No damage without your signature,
even the kids think that you are immature.
6 months into the game ,
got smoked by your tank in fame.
Oh "Qu Shitra", you fail both sides,
As boss, as a character—you disappoint.
So vault your ass, take your delete,
And pray Kuro never makes repeats!
You’re not a waifu—you're a joke,
A lazy dev's half-finished stroke.
Delete your banner, burn the code,
You’re dead weight on a dying mode.
Got shot by some random fodder,
spatial awareness like no other.
the only good thing you have is your legs, but even then,
that's a half-assed defense.
Watapak
there's a permanent event tab called Thunderbolt Manual you can get Nanami there
for Vera you can use the selector
yap

for feral does it mater the placement for dv guin
no
no
thanks brochachos
No
does DF vera need dlt if wata sss?
no
maybe
Hervor Vera Gay for DF 
is the dv or guin at the bottom i forgot
Holy lasongna
but the pins tell me to use other set cuz sss wata
which are priority skills for cubs?
the bottom 2
alright thank you
Okay I choose vera from beginner banner and nanami from other one
@buoyant hornet
good choice 
this whel is on a different level of whel
Ss0 is poverty wdym
why is Vera also holding Bathlon 
damn ss0 that bricked

hai is 2.332.3 df set already concrete or still being searched for
Your guin cottie Vinci vera already built right?
no
I can't I didn't mald df yet
That was just seeing things
i'm a bit wary on what to build cuz of this vid
Set for low inv that good

thing is
For low inv I just
Still 10mil
Ht new bath
nah nvm
Navily with bath got 11
That's the highest score for that invest
Bili runs as well 11

With guin
so i should follow the vid's build?
Surelyi can't say
i'm 2.332.3 123 
Ok but u can find mistakes
I got her how is she?
surely the score difference between 2r lim and 3r watank isn't that far
Nergi doesn't watch broke runs
No at best I played df like 30min 
I don't even know how it goes
@wanton hatch
R2 liv can give like 300k+
Wata won't differ unless really unlucky
really old unit, don't invest too much
prio Vera and Nana
ASS

I didn't understand yet how team works here
when did you start the game
this week?
Today

okay you shouldnt come to this channel yet
this channel is for end-game stuff not for newbies 
My friend said discover yourself first before asking for help
lmao momen

@blissful swan you should use #📨・general-help or #💬・pgr-general for now
unless you're a whel then you can't afford to spend resources on stuff just to test them
Okay
dm
Fellas
What's the Rotation for Veronica
Without her Sig
Cuz i can't seem to fill ult bar when i double Ping
Thanks bruh
I can
iPad Pro tho
Even then my frame rate gets a bit choppy sometimes
I pad 10 here
so does darkflow vera use a healing set, or hervor+cottie at ss0? seeing mixed responses online.
i already had a full HT hervor set lmao
full ht herv better than non HT guin set then?
I'm like, constantly capped on event shop currency
Dont know never played that inv
Hello help me with builds (Darkflow)
2s3 Liv 3s Wata 2s3 Geiravor
Ping me thank you in advanced
I think hervor was only good for if Wata below sss
But that may have changed now that more testing has been done, I’m not sure
Me who's way lower than you
tf am i doing wrong in darkflow lmao
is anyone's rot different in darkflow aside from just holding ult on wata/vera?
Just double max stk ult
hervor strictly for soloing or lack of dlt
yeah that's better than w/e tf I was doing before lmao
idk why im even malding over this
im gonna demote anyways
Double full ult works if ur team is R1
no reso on my liv, but she ss3
What character should i use for the lightning team aside from ish
I had 2.332.3 111, 8.7M hero
biggest skill issue known to man
Could prob 9M if I didn’t have a messed up rot at the end
In ppc btw
Explore the 54 characters of ᜄᜓᜃᜓ Rion from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Here's my acc
Plss help me
id record a run, but sht would be like 10 gb
Or what could be better alternative tank for dark
Hmmmmmmm
Oh let me see
U can upload to YT and send link
Also u have ss3 liv but no reso??
on shtty hotel wifi is the issue
im a hoarder
GA helps her dmg a lot
And DLT makes lightning more comfy to play
U don’t have to constantly sp delay, can just 3p 3x
Lilith is the only amp that is r2
270mb
Why is bros 4 minute run 10 gigs
my vid is 522 mb lmao
Turn that hdr off
never
Wait do you have 1tb of storage?
Yeah although i could voucher to buy 64 shards lol
Danggg
Ok I can't help the liv part
But ur wata half is jus
Wrong

And vera is slow
i mash inputs too fast, the game will miss them
Try this if u can see through the 360p
Don't do wata 6 stack ult
And start on him so you do insta 3p into ult
Rather than swap from liv
Adjust the liv half cuz I'm not ss3
how many blaze orbs are you doing? i cant tell
Start Wata swap Vera, then liv and loop that.
Wata 1st rot should be 3p ult1, BA, hold dodge 4 blaze
Subsequent is swap in ult1 BA 3-4 blaze up to u
Press ult the moment you get it
`or hold ult
Oh right pc gamers
I always do 3 blaze idk, don’t seem to lose much time
Can we kill pc
skill issue
Just use ur other hand?
1st swap it's useless to do more than fast ult
U only do it for shred
U only need 1 3p before hold dodge on Liv after full ult
1st ult*
Also if ur dodges aren't lining up on vera uh
Practice
Muscle memory it or just notice the moment her red gauge goes down each time
I kinda lost a bit of time on vera not cancelling red
Also I’m wondering why ur dmg seems so low
Idk bro
wtf
30% atk hella small frfr
Maybe qte timings
That too
By 1:30 I’m clearing w16
And that run was w a failed sp delay on liv
Ss3 Vera barely does anything








