📨・meta-help

[faint monolith]

No one said she'll leave

[true pivot]

until you realize lilith

exist

[dreamy pelican]

though i am surprised that she's reduced to qte bot

[faint monolith]

Until Lilith

[dreamy pelican]

yeah recent amps at least do one rot

[true pivot]

the best girl is so good

[crystal rune]

lilick simp

[dreamy pelican]

did you forget about vero

[crystal rune]

Lilick

[faint monolith]

Dps Vera

[deft apex]

Shukra v2

Dmg overflow

[true pivot]

Lilick

[faint monolith]

Burn

[dreamy pelican]

vera was supposed to only do one rot

[faint monolith]

was

[young badge]

shukra has better dmg distribution than whatever teddy doing

[faint monolith]

When a fart is stronger than a virtual bear

[deft apex]

Teddy playing tekken

[true pivot]

lilith set the standard of what a free amp unit should be
vera set the standard of what a gacha amp unit should be
then you have veronica and teddy

[deft apex]

Its ok

[dreamy pelican]

point still stands

regardless if she does more than one now

thats the entire point of making her ult giga strong

[true pivot]

teddy actually does a lot of damage, but her distribution is horrendous

[dreamy pelican]

either you solo/duo with her using hervor or you do one rot with dv

[cobalt prawn]

Teddy’s rotation looks comically long

[crystal rune]

it is

[dreamy pelican]

nobody expected her to do more than one since her rot takes so damn long

[crystal rune]

nanami syndrome

[true pivot]

all that setup for one hit attack that nukes

[cobalt prawn]

And it’s not gonna be in amp buff timer either prob

[true pivot]

she can do it within 7s

[cobalt prawn]

Ohh ok!

[simple dew]

whats the problem

[cobalt prawn]

I did not see that from the beta testers

[dreamy pelican]

as if thats somethinf better

[true pivot]

ofc not

shes horrendous

[faint monolith]

When you realize nana and vera were a 1 time occasion

[cobalt prawn]

Maybe a PPC nuker lmao

[crystal rune]

ppc nuker 7s rot yea right

broke

[cobalt prawn]

No wonder they give her for free😔 ice still brick

[true pivot]

shes not even close to being a ppc nuker unless the boss has like a lot of hp

[crystal rune]

red huaxu nuker gawd

[cobalt prawn]

Wanshi is goated for that

[dreamy pelican]

imagine wasting 7 seconds for one million dmg on a wave with 100k hp collectively

[cobalt prawn]

6 bullet pew

Ded

[simple dew]

[young badge]

and teddy fast ult does like no dmg

[dreamy pelican]

you waste that dmg and cant bring it to other waves

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah I was hoping w her rot being so long that the dmg would be distributed more evenly

[dreamy pelican]

effectively you waste so much dmg and time its not even worth swapping into her at all

[simple dew]

just buff her core passive dmg a few times and boom

[dreamy pelican]

reduced to qte bot status

[simple dew]

[cobalt prawn]

But it’s the beta hopefully we can bring that feedback

And kuso will listen🙏🏼🙏🏼

[limber yoke]

12 days beta

[dreamy pelican]

its literally day one

[crystal rune]

make her ult bianca's level of dmg spread

broke

[dreamy pelican]

so no doomposting yet

[crystal rune]

or liv

[cobalt prawn]

No like literally just buff her core

[crystal rune]

doom post for funsies cuz why not pwoinvest

[dreamy pelican]

[cobalt prawn]

Liv’s ult finisher and qte dmg spread is goated

[noble zinc]

Worse this that tried for 2s3 inv

[true pivot]

this happens in a span of 0.1s

[cobalt prawn]

Bruh

[faint monolith]

[cobalt prawn]

What’s her multiplier on that

[true pivot]

like look at that massive damage

but she cant even wave chain with it

[young badge]

ish kick is better than that

[cobalt prawn]

If they divided it into 6 hits or smth

[crystal rune]

comes in for 1 rot to nuke a bear and leaves

[cobalt prawn]

Slightly delayed😋

[crystal rune]

thats the plan

for mob zone just dont even swap to her

WorryGoose

[true pivot]

surprisingly, its not that high

[cobalt prawn]

Wadafak

[deft apex]

Literally how is teddy ice even

[cobalt prawn]

How the dmg so high then😂

[deft apex]

I see lightning bolts on her animations

[stray siren]

What is SS0 Liv inputs?

[deft apex]

Like wtf

[cobalt prawn]

😂😂

[faint monolith]

Wait so her ult is instantaneous dmg?

[true pivot]

sorry wrong

[simple dew]

ishmael also had a garbage v1 and shes very good now

[cobalt prawn]

1 instance lmao

[true pivot]

this is the one

[young badge]

1 hit nuke

[cobalt prawn]

IB character fr

[true pivot]

its a 2 hit nuke, but the intervals are so short its basically 1

[cobalt prawn]

Oneshot huaxu

[dreamy pelican]

she got that ice on her chain

[young badge]

but her setup is like almost the same as amp buff duration

[faint monolith]

Instantaneous dmg ult in 2025 💀

[simple dew]

in v2 we pray

[cobalt prawn]

We need an amp that sets up a continuous dmg field like a f-ing blender around them

[dreamy pelican]

this is even worse than wanshi screen ult

[deft apex]

V7

[dreamy pelican]

at least he does dmg before that

[faint monolith]

Even Vero hit more than 2 times

[true pivot]

like when you see her dash into the end of the screen, thats the first tick

[dreamy pelican]

LMAO?

[true pivot]

then when she pops out, thats the 2nd

[cobalt prawn]

Bruh

That’s literally

Like no delay

I thought it was 1 hit

[true pivot]

its 2 hit

[faint monolith]

[true pivot]

^

[young badge]

2 hit within 0.1s

[cobalt prawn]

Her animations are so damn cool tho

Esp when she’s in her ult1 form

A shame that does like 0 dmg😂

[faint monolith]

So it's just that the interval between the kick and the pop so short that everything is thrown at once

[true pivot]

im pretty sure her setup before ult2 has a total of like 4m dmg give or take

[faint monolith]

Kinda ass

[young badge]

and her long ass setup for that nuke

[simple dew]

must pull fr

[true pivot]

she can nuke x30 hp bosses, but like, whats the point?

lower her ult multipliers, give it to her core ffs

[crystal rune]

Give it all to her ult and make her cores useless

[cobalt prawn]

There aren’t any animation cancels or anything we can do to speed it up?

[true pivot]

people arent even using her ult resonances and it does more damage than her setup core

[faint monolith]

How kuso cooks new frames the modern way

[cobalt prawn]

I thought they were starting a new trend w the core passive and qte time stop on liv

But they gave none of that to teddy

[true pivot]

after veronica they forgot how to make an amp

[simple dew]

vera and lilick so goated everyone after them got nerfed

[analog mango]

Everyone who's name is not Lucia, Liv, Nanami, Bianca, Kamui, Ayla, Sophia, Vera, Changyu, Qu, Luna, Selena, No.21, Pulao, Haicma, Bambinata, Hanying, Noctis*, Lamia, Lilith, Jetavie, Discord, Veronica, A2, 2B, or 9S

[faint monolith]

They're preparing for Phylotree amps, trust

[young badge]

teddy?

[analog mango]

I like Teddy

[cobalt prawn]

Her instant 20 stack ray is rly nice tho

Fast

[analog mango]

Skipped Bianca so mid

[icy otter]

@trim apex ok I think that's it

Vassago not dying

[true pivot]

the only tree is gonna be the one i plant in their location after i demolish their buiilding

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[cobalt prawn]

Enables double rot bonka

If only we had ray tank

XD

[true pivot]

nanami

[young badge]

glacio

[true pivot]

ms.worldwide

[icy otter]

No

Glacio gonna score 6m

[analog mango]

Teddy doesn't consume Raydiance though huh
Can't make her a DPS

[icy otter]

I'm not r1 a dead amp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[young badge]

no wonder u aint hitting that 9m

[icy otter]

Bro wants me to r1 an affix amp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173925642102902864.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ReallyNah

[trim apex]

Damn it’s a 333 thing huh

[young badge]

affix is the score meta

[noble zinc]

Don't know mine 333 went ein on ish

Nat liv
Heisen nana

[trim apex]

Tried your best

[simple dew]

what rank is the betta liv

[faint monolith]

Can I join

[simple dew]

s0?

[icy otter]

Surely I won't need it

Void is still homeless af

The ss0 ish rot is cooked bro

This unit is ss3 baseline

[noble zinc]

[young badge]

ss0 ish is like 7m+ tho

[icy otter]

Idk bro

[analog egret]

for limpy should i equip 4pc cottie + 2pc Heisen and harmonize it

or 4pc Heisen + harmonize cottie is there any difference?

just in case Natasha is buffed i'm only wasting 2 slots (copium)

[icy otter]

The whale got 7m

With like 3s

[noble zinc]

2.332 prob this zone 8m

[icy otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[young badge]

that slacc

[noble zinc]

Mob I had 7.76 last week

[icy otter]

I'm 232 111

[noble zinc]

7 then

[icy otter]

What the helly

[noble zinc]

6.5

Wait

No reso

[cobalt prawn]

What’s ur df @icy otter

[icy otter]

232 112

[cobalt prawn]

I scored 8.56 in hero w 2.332.3 111

Ohh 232 ok

[icy otter]

Bro

These f2p mfs

Flexing ss0

With r3 in the back

Like I can't just spawn reso man

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[cobalt prawn]

Resos be adding sm dmg

[young badge]

pull skins u get free resos

[crystal rune]

True

[cobalt prawn]

I think more important for amps than anything tbh

[icy otter]

Should have pulled selena skin

[trim apex]

For my 333 I put 4 Heisen on Liv, 2 eins on nana did better

[crystal rune]

Instead of dmc

[cobalt prawn]

Being able to do SAR+GS on all the amps is great

[icy otter]

Mods cook him

[noble zinc]

Pull every gacha skin that's my secret of 5bil reso

[icy otter]

And what's the secret for the bc

That funds the skin

[noble zinc]

wut score

[crystal rune]

Secret of 5bil reso is jsut rc in the end

[cobalt prawn]

SS0 R3 > SS3 R1?

In general

[noble zinc]

For?

[icy otter]

Does nana ss3 rot change

[analog mango]

I'm assuming Teddy is useless without Bianca

[icy otter]

I'm not gonna mald void

Nuke can probs get 6m at my inv

[noble zinc]

Some chrs SS3 are bric so all round can't say

[icy otter]

That 5.2 was 1tap but 10m runs are

[icy otter]

For light*

[young badge]

1tap is best score

[icy otter]

No

My df 1tap was 6.5m bro

[trim apex]

Incomplete ht 1614w

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1145339949315534908.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=filipino

[cobalt prawn]

No

[noble zinc]

17.5+ can?

[young badge]

u got no 1tap buff

[icy otter]

Ok where's the rot tech

[cobalt prawn]

What rot tech she’s ez

[trim apex]

Idk. Est dalao 333 also 1628w similar

[icy otter]

Light inv is 22.32 111 with ish amp

No like

Swap rot

For liv nana

[cobalt prawn]

Oh. I have ss3 liv tho

Although it doesn’t matter

[noble zinc]

[young badge]

15m

[icy otter]

Ok buddy

I'll be catching ur 40m on Sunday

Since ur 3s

[young badge]

f3p btw

[crystal rune]

F3p

[cobalt prawn]

I do ish start -> Liv fast ult -> nana 1 fast 1 full -> Ishy fill downtime -> Liv full fast fast and I loop that

[carmine reef]

Fkin 3s Pilots

[icy otter]

Ish fill downtime

Ok ggs

[cobalt prawn]

It’s like

2s

[icy otter]

I'm going back to nana zaza

[cobalt prawn]

3

U just press like ult1 red yellow red dodge and it’s all

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-staring-suspicious-memes-gif-9038143639402170425

[young badge]

theres a tech to not ish without downtime

[cobalt prawn]

Nanami zaza scores way lower trust

[icy otter]

Is it called 2 full nana ult

[young badge]

u pull 3s

[cobalt prawn]

2 full is way too slow

[noble zinc]

333

[icy otter]

Ok mods can we kill every 3s owner in meta help

Thanks

I'm tired boss

[trim apex]

Maybe he mald more we will see for my run I did perfect wave splits + very tight ish ending to get super QTE wave kill

[icy otter]

Sandbagged daily in legend by 333

[cobalt prawn]

My only 333 team is dark with Wata:(

But 112 reso:(

[noble zinc]

You try then tell when full hyper done and free me tired

[icy otter]

Wait I know a poor dalao

@buoyant hornet come

[cobalt prawn]

That’s crazy

[icy otter]

Need that ss0 liv swap rot

[trim apex]

I kneel

[icy otter]

Hey he told me he didn't do df

So I malded that on my own

[carmine reef]

feyer himself said ss0 liv swap is not even an improvement

[crystal rune]

Dalao gawd pls do 21 for me

[trim apex]

But SEA fluc cooked so idk

[cobalt prawn]

For ss0 same as what u told u, just do full + fast for liv instead

[crystal rune]

I’m still so salty eu got 392 and sea got 366

[icy otter]

Over zaza?

[cobalt prawn]

Or even 2 full

[noble zinc]

Yea that's sea score as well

[crystal rune]

Potential 28m

[carmine reef]

over nana solo

[cobalt prawn]

Oh srsly

I scored way higher w ss0 liv

[trim apex]

Might mald during weekend will tell

[icy otter]

Did I just tell nergi to pull an affix dps

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

This is just

Dmc

But official

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[cobalt prawn]

Ur calling liv an affix dps?

[crystal rune]

Uh

[cobalt prawn]

[crystal rune]

Seems

Under sss0

[cobalt prawn]

Ss3 is alr great

Too strong at sss tho yea

[young badge]

isnt liv affix dps tho

[carmine reef]

to be fair lightning is being held back by boomer amp

it won't look quite so doomge once new amp drops

[crystal rune]

But uh

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah for sure

[crystal rune]

After Daren dies

[icy otter]

Rosetta light amp

[crystal rune]

Pls

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-ishowspeed-gif-1290931606264393136

[cobalt prawn]

Lmao

That btch be immortal

[grand jay]

Alpha Wanshi and Teddy hmmm?

Interesting ice team

[young badge]

daren replace is next anni

[cobalt prawn]

Alpha in all likelihood is prob ice attacker

[grand jay]

CNY for sure

[icy otter]

If I do solo nana do I go 2s r2 vera or 2s3 r1 lilick

[crystal rune]

Alpha void annihilator

[grand jay]

Probably Phylotree too

[simple dew]

crimsonity attacker

crimsonium

[carmine reef]

lilith

[icy otter]

That mf qu came died didn't get leaped and got replaced

[young badge]

alpha new element and affix

[cobalt prawn]

I’ll cry

[crystal rune]

Double affix

No element

[cobalt prawn]

No more affixes

[icy otter]

Bro affix is there push now

Their*

[grand jay]

Seeing as Bianca has raydiance i dont think theyll end it there

[cobalt prawn]

Ion alr had a child lmao

[grand jay]

Theres gonna be more off shoots

[cobalt prawn]

Are all the affixes gonna breed too

[crystal rune]

Don’t

Say it like that

[cobalt prawn]

[grand jay]

Man Im mad Rosetta isnt Ice amp

[icy otter]

Light amp

Replace feral

[cobalt prawn]

Plz let her be dark tank

[trim apex]

I have my money on Alpha being Ice/TS attacker

[grand jay]

I would have loved to have both Alpha and Rosetta on the same team

[icy otter]

Let dark die

Thanks

[grand jay]

Likeliest outcome

[cobalt prawn]

Dark will dethrone fire as strongest element if we get new dark tank

[grand jay]

Kamui/Rosetta for sure

[icy otter]

It's gonna be an affix tank with trash dark gameplay

So there's no major creep

[crystal rune]

I mean

[cobalt prawn]

It’s hard to not majorly creep daren without being absolute garbage

[grand jay]

Still has gen 3 passives so neg diffs Karen

[crystal rune]

It doesn’t take much to make dark scores sky rocket

[simple dew]

phys tank

[young badge]

that -3s

with off field dark shred

[grand jay]

45% shred at SSS

[crystal rune]

Literally bricked dmg but as long as there’s gen3 passive and bettet shred then it’s easily 25m

[cobalt prawn]

I have 3S lilick and bonka, I’m ready

[icy otter]

Bro

Everyone

Is 333

What

[cobalt prawn]

I’m prob only gonna ss3 the tank tho

For extra shred

Can’t afford more 3s

[icy otter]

@unborn hound is this why you quit

[young badge]

dont speak broke

[cobalt prawn]

Plz be like nana qte

[grand jay]

Im 333 invest besides Wanshi being S+ 😁

[cobalt prawn]

Instant shred field

27M

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1084721330726895616.gif

[grand jay]

That or Wata leap qte would be the dream

[crystal rune]

Nah

Wata shred sucks

Pls

Do not

[cobalt prawn]

Still way better than daren

Imagine if the tank did tons of dmg too🥵

W good distribution🥵🥵

[grand jay]

First 30m base element WZ

[formal radish]

Hrhgrgehrjrj

[formal radish]

For who

[cobalt prawn]

Might make dark too strong tho idk if they’ll go for it

[formal radish]

Ice?

[grand jay]

Dark

[formal radish]

Rip

Yeah we're not getting daren replaced any time soon

[cobalt prawn]

It better be an op tank, she’s been rotting on that team for almost 5 yrs

[grand jay]

Daren is gone by the time half anni happens mark my words

[formal radish]

It's like Empyrea experiencing 2 generations of her team

Wait

Daren's been through 3

[cobalt prawn]

[formal radish]

Luna Lamia Bianca

[quiet basalt]

3 s and shred, pls make dark great again

[grand jay]

Wont take much it already is with Bianca alone

Gen 3 passives and that team is hitting 22m minimum

Do we think Wanshi leap is happening?

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[formal radish]

Not yet

[grand jay]

Methinks theyll leap him to shill Alpha

[faint monolith]

Man Im glad Rosetta isnt Ice amp

[formal garnet]

what memories to get for geiravor

[analog mango]

Wanshi
Alpha

What is bro smoking

[grand jay]

You guys think Qu makes it out alive CNY?

[formal garnet]

?

[grand jay]

Any chance of her getting a leap lied with Teddy patch

[grand jay]

Depends on team

Works with typical amp support build

But she uses 4pc guin 2pc ein 2pc cottie in df

[analog mango]

I thought she uses Hervor in df

[formal garnet]

I came back pretty recently so im not even sure what I can make for her team https://huaxu.app/eu/players/12714393/characters

would just follow greyravens build but someone said the builds there are not up to date anymore

[grand jay]

Oh I was going off of 3s Vera builds

Idk if its the same below that invest

[noble zinc]

trash

[icy otter]

What inv

[noble zinc]

22.32 122

[formal garnet]

btw i've been wondering for a while. do the placements of memories matter?

[noble zinc]

Some memo got slight more attack

Also free to tweak when buikd adjustments need

With better placements

[formal garnet]

I always see 4set + the 2set either in 1+3 slots or 4+6 slots

[noble zinc]

I dont rember what betteer or less wait for experts on that

Like some chrs like liv whose builds we unsure

4cottie main better

[formal garnet]

so this is fine for s/ss?

[noble zinc]

We arent sure yet some going bath,on vera as well

While guin as well

Near same score both

[formal garnet]

what team can I do for her with my roster https://huaxu.app/eu/players/12714393/characters

[limber yoke]

i think guin is better

[dawn cloak]

Too small to care
Highest are cottie dv 135 atk
Sig memo are 132 atk
Only 3x3 = 9 atk difference on a scale of 1800-2000 atk
Better just be consistent on these placement to help saving HT

[noble zinc]

[gilded flint]

What do you think 22.32.3(ish) 152 can maybe score in lightning

[noble zinc]

Below 3s wata that was saying

[limber yoke]

oh brick

[noble zinc]

Whtas that 5 thing

5star wpn?

[gilded flint]

no sig

[noble zinc]

Its like 8.6 looks okish

[noble zinc]

No idea then i never play that imv

[formal garnet]

btw what's df

[icy otter]

Wait

[noble zinc]

Darflow

[icy otter]

I need vid

[gilded flint]

darkflow

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[formal garnet]

the effect?

[noble zinc]

That random tap

[icy otter]

I'm 22.32 111 but rot should be same

[noble zinc]

You in hero?

[icy otter]

If 122 is 7m 111 is cooked

Leg

[gilded flint]

I can stream for a little rn do you want to see?

[noble zinc]

why everone in leg

[icy otter]

Vid would be better

My data is trash

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[noble zinc]

Its starght up buga buga 2 liv long
3riple nana ult with cottie

I messed up ending 1 ping did

7.2+ i guess

For now

[noble zinc]

For nana

[icy otter]

What input of triple nana

I can try

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[noble zinc]

Its just slam

With hold ba

[icy otter]

3 slam?

No full?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

[noble zinc]

Twice 3p do yellow

Slam

[noble zinc]

Maybe if need mostly for perfect switch not doing

This fits perfectly

[icy otter]

Oh if it fits it's nice

[noble zinc]

3rd slam or full upto uppercut

Then ult

[icy otter]

I have cottie ht from burn build

But uh

Heisen for liv

[noble zinc]

Dlt need tho

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[noble zinc]

For nana

[icy otter]

Ok score gonna be 4m

[noble zinc]

Yeah liv holds heisen

[icy otter]

Whats ur starter

[noble zinc]

Double liv long

[icy otter]

Swap into 1 liv?

Oh

[noble zinc]

This brainded

No sp delay did

[icy otter]

Is that not dmg overflow on dead wave

[noble zinc]

Brekapoins seemed ok more need to try ofc

Still bad

7,5 even if

[icy otter]

I need 4m for retain bro

[noble zinc]

Ss3 does 10

[icy otter]

7m is not bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1353896360579170364.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=crashingout

Ok time to go build the heisen

[noble zinc]

[icy otter]

My liv main 4p is cottie

So only need to ht 2 heisen

[gilded flint]

4p cottie main saved me so much ht mats

I love cottie

[icy otter]

What reso for liv in light

Don't tell me dlt

[orchid owl]

when does livpidity need DLT?

[orchid owl]

from what I can tell she can rot without DLT (at least for the first time)

[carmine reef]

you can rot without dlt but you'll be relying on full rot

[icy otter]

I did 2 full

But then

I kept randomly ignition ulting on nana in the middle

[carmine reef]

it's just not quite as good in light as it is in df

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

Let's try dlt

@noble zinc

3 nana is not lining up

If I had the orbs I could 4 nana

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[dreamy pelican]

[noble zinc]

7.4

[dreamy pelican]

since ur nuke

im gonna tell em 7m

this isnt my invest, its someone who asked me regarding this

[noble zinc]

It's Brainded I didn't bald

[dreamy pelican]

but i have not touched light at all

[cobalt prawn]

I scored around that in hero w ss3 liv, rest same

[noble zinc]

Am giving my ref wait

[dreamy pelican]

your "didnt bald" is our 16 hour mald

[noble zinc]

I mean SS0 this stat

Diff things tried

[noble zinc]

Hero SS3 liv with its 9.5+

[cobalt prawn]

I have 111 reso

[noble zinc]

9 then

[cobalt prawn]

Srsly? Gib rot

[noble zinc]

https://youtu.be/auUxYWMsenk?si=fhKDxy1WaE6kD5op
Wave 6-7,24,39

You cant

Only rest can

[crystal rune]

Hax

[simple dew]

323 reso

[noble zinc]

[dreamy pelican]

67??

[carmine reef]

[dreamy pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[noble zinc]

I mean the chaining from 6-7

[dreamy pelican]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1345087199355469967/1352687671482384405/attachment.gif

[cobalt prawn]

I think 5 less resos is prob more than a 700k score diff no?

[noble zinc]

umm no i already did this on other I'd as well

[dreamy pelican]

not really

[noble zinc]

Nana was using dlt

It's hero

[cobalt prawn]

Oh wow dlt nana ok

[noble zinc]

Maybe if legend then

[cobalt prawn]

I will watch

[noble zinc]

Incan is super meh

212 reso should say with doable

[cobalt prawn]

I was on DD

[noble zinc]

This score

[orchid owl]

323

bro where are you getting these resos

[noble zinc]

No me don't want cope
Dlt don't need

[dreamy pelican]

dalao never reso broke

[cobalt prawn]

He gives birth to them (pulling for skins)

[orchid owl]

1 from previous meta and 1-2 extra

[simple dew]

coating banners

[noble zinc]

[cobalt prawn]

So u recommend ML or DD?

[noble zinc]

Dd

[orchid owl]

he'd be better off buying the weapon monthly pass

[dreamy pelican]

dd obviously

[cobalt prawn]

Okie that’s what I was using anyways

[noble zinc]

Me not rich

[dreamy pelican]

ml on nana sucks dookie ngl

since its only for one slam

[cobalt prawn]

How good is it on liv

[dreamy pelican]

better go incan for better dmg distribution

[cobalt prawn]

Does she even activate matrix I can’t tell

[orchid owl]

you have money for 600 RC coating but not weapon monthly?

[noble zinc]

Ml on liv is near useless as well

[cobalt prawn]

Oh yea her blue ping after ult1

And that’s it😂

[dreamy pelican]

but that tickles them

[noble zinc]

That got with bc

[orchid owl]

R2 livpidity or save reso?

[cobalt prawn]

Save

[noble zinc]

Save unless you rich

[cobalt prawn]

R2 is kinda waste on her isn’t it, she doesn’t even need dlt, ML sucks for her and Incan is fraud

[orchid owl]

well I am kinda rich
but the pgr people tend to blow things out of proportion

[noble zinc]

The one 3riple stat seems dlt need

Which did

[orchid owl]

apparently she uses DLT for faster rot (non-full ult)
but I might not need it with SSS? since she gets TS on full ult

[noble zinc]

Rest mostly don't need yeah

[cobalt prawn]

I was doing full-fast-fast w no DLT

[noble zinc]

total time it was taking?

[cobalt prawn]

Long

[formal garnet]

whose sig should I get from selector? crepuscule, geiravor, epitaph or startrail? I don't even have 5stars for these

[cobalt prawn]

Because u need the hold dodge

[noble zinc]

yeah that

I was skipping

[cobalt prawn]

If u sp cancel

U need dlt

For triple

[orchid owl]

crepuscule wants her weapon to function
but geiravor and startrail have more value with theirs

[cobalt prawn]

But u can’t sp cancel fast ult right?

Only full

[noble zinc]

Fast ult also can

[dreamy pelican]

geiravor for sure

[cobalt prawn]

Whattt

Ugh

Ok

[formal garnet]

while you guys are here. what do I do for geiravor/crepuscule teams? https://huaxu.app/eu/players/12714393/characters

[dreamy pelican]

they have lillith

[noble zinc]

You don't need that if normal inputs your fast

I got same clear as rydle without sp delay

[cobalt prawn]

Okok

[noble zinc]

For light this

[cobalt prawn]

Dlt on liv?

Oh nvm I see it

Gonna lose sm dmg w no GA

[noble zinc]

Wave 40-41

You will go

[formal garnet]

wait nvm the selector only goes up to oblivion

damn

[noble zinc]

Wav 40 touch is 8.6 41 should be 9 close

[orchid owl]

yeah you aren't using crepuscule at all in dark since she is base S with no weapon
just use off-ele dark with lilith, nanami and oblivion
geiravor team is pyro, epitaph, geiravor but you don't have pyro so use empyrea with 4 dv 2 guin
wata can use 4 alphonse 2 eins
and since you have no sig vera and she will be doing most of the work, you probably want to run 4 hervor and 2 cottie
if and when you get vera sig, swap hervor to 4 shakespeare and harmo 4 cottie

[formal garnet]

I assume I take epitaph's sig? since I can't get any others

[orchid owl]

no oblivion?

oh yeah no oblivion

buy the 5 rc pack if you can

[formal garnet]

what team is she for?

[orchid owl]

if you can't then save the selector

[orchid owl]

nihil first and foremost
but she can be used in cope off-ele teams

[formal garnet]

ight I was planning on the 5rc pack anyway

[orchid owl]

with her recent leap she's become a lot more useful, and you can freely upgrade her with vouchers

[formal garnet]

so I get oblivion sig now> geiravor > startrail > crepuscule?

or should I not bother pulling those sigs

[orchid owl]

something like that
but you should definitely wait with sigs since we don't know when a new phylotree unit shows up

[gilded flint]

If you do get epi sig run 4 dv 4 alphonse and empy can run 4 Guin 2 eins

Oblivion sig if no sig for her first tho

[orchid owl]

what you should take away is: select oblivion sig from the weapon selector that goes up to oblivion

everything else can wait

I just see this

[formal garnet]

are oblivion's ingame memory sets accurate?

[ripe stag]

Yes
Put Cottie on bottom

[cobalt prawn]

Geiravor is rly amazing.. even w 4 guin 2 eins 2 cottie she still does sm dmg in Darkflow

[formal garnet]

4-6?

or -56 like in ingame suggestion

[golden merlin]

ingame suggestion places them randomly, depending on what you own

but anywhere on the bottom works, they all get the same stats

[median spade]

does not matter just on bottom

[noble zinc]

@icy otter https://youtu.be/D-gJaf8nD2U?si=N9ZbOEejZJpQ2w3l
Fix end get 7.2

[orchid owl]

bro

why does liv teleport to the other half of the arena

I'm trying to do simulated siege and she keeps showing up 30 meters away from the boss

[cobalt prawn]

Is it one of her white ping moves maybe?

[orchid owl]

idk but it's so cringe

[young badge]

use lilith

[white oriole]

Will they focus more on this new Babylonia overworld gameplay

Open world is the last thing I need

[simple dew]

i like it as a casual thing

but no thanks i dont want an open world in neither story or gameplay

[buoyant hornet]

Well in hero it was for some reason

[hasty bluff]

when will the service weekly missions start ?

[buoyant hornet]

Also I never tested ss0 liv swap vs. ss0 solo nana, my nana ss3 idk if that affects the outcome much

[hasty bluff]

for the service certificates

[buoyant hornet]

How's teddy looking so far in beta? She good?

[simple dew]

backloaded as hell

slow rot, nonexistent damage distribution

[formal radish]

Just as expected

[buoyant hornet]

Bruh

[simple dew]

in v2 we pray

[formal radish]

I think I just need a break from discord

At some point I'm just not gonna use my phone at all if I keep cutting everything off

I think that's the endgoal

[buoyant hornet]

An AI trying to stop using phones

[formal radish]

The more time I spend in meta help the more I feel distanced from the community I was in

[dire plinth]

do i need 4pc davinci on geiravor or run her on her 4pc sig set

[buoyant hornet]

Why so?

[buoyant hornet]

What context lol

[formal radish]

The stuff they're talking about that I don't understand anymore

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah fair

[formal radish]

I've already been replaced

No more am I needed or wanted

Time to scrap...

[wind hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

I was really hoping to make Qu a QTE bot...

[formal radish]

At this point in time

She really should be

At most like 1 quick ult

Like filler

[dire plinth]

i saw two diff guides where one guide said to run 4pc davinci and another guide saying her sig 4pc set. the thing is, on the guide saying to run 4pc da vinci it was for the fire team. on the guide stating to use her sig 4pc set with 2pc guinevere (+harmo guin), there was no specific team, it was js stated for her to run.

[wind hemlock]

Solo S+ Wanshi meta

[formal radish]

In no form do I feel relateable to any part of the community

Except for the general conversations in ... general

But just being in general kinda sucks

glb lore has their own community that I don't understand either because I don't read the story

[buoyant hornet]

Idek if she can even do that

[wind hemlock]

Btw where's that Vera pfp from? Its so cute

[formal radish]

From the anime

[buoyant hornet]

in fire warzone? Hell nah

[formal radish]

I think it's episode 6-11 idr which one

[wind hemlock]

That panini anime?

[buoyant hornet]

If you have her with sig and r1 minimum she never runs dv below sss

[dire plinth]

so she should be on 4pc da vinci right?

[formal radish]

It's her jumping out a window to chase roland

Yes

[wind hemlock]

[buoyant hornet]

No it's 4shakespeare 4cottie ideally

At ss0-ss3 she's the main dps

[boreal lynx]

why not at sss

[buoyant hornet]

(if you learn her dodge cancels)

[buoyant hornet]

Idk about how invest combinations above sss work for sure

[boreal lynx]

oh

[dire plinth]

fr? dyk the rotation? T-T

[buoyant hornet]

All I know is that above sss if vera is at all any higher in rank than lucia then she immediately takes precedence in dps again

[dire plinth]

is there a good youtuber who does pgr guides T-T

[formal radish]

Yes

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-munching-cat-kitty-munching-cat-eating-cat-close-up-gif-575723154021362882

[formal radish]

They're all pretty small

Some are quite big

[dire plinth]

which chanels do you often go to

[unborn hound]

u unkiwi mambo?

[formal radish]

Uhh

I don't anymore

But when I used to play

[formal radish]

Volskyius, Rydle

[formal radish]

Stop

Ok just because of that I'm not plugging your channel

[buoyant hornet]

Zex have you seen nuke's ridiculous nanami zaza lmfaooooo

[formal radish]

Windbell, Acaxi

[buoyant hornet]

3ult cottie nanami in lightning

[formal radish]

Ummm

[unborn hound]

nuke017
Azriel
Rydle
volskyius
windbell
acaxi

[formal radish]

Oh right snazz

And azriel

[unborn hound]

snazz very true

[formal radish]

Nuke is good but his is a little more zaza

[boreal lynx]

is it optimal

[formal radish]

You gotta understand the game or you won't really know what he's doing

[wind hemlock]

Did snazz kiwi? Last video I've seen on yt of him was like a month ago

[dire plinth]

do one of these teach the rotations or do they just do vids of wz clears and stuff

[buoyant hornet]

Well he scored much more than I did with a similar invest but idk how much of that is just region fluctuation difference

[buoyant hornet]

I'm looking for the simplest vera 2rot guide

Rydle has one but it involves using tech that isn't really useful anymore for the most part

Since wata got leape

[boreal lynx]

whats his invest

[formal radish]

I think yomm has a good one

Pretty easy to understand

[buoyant hornet]

22.12 122

[buoyant hornet]

Oh right

[boreal lynx]

why isnt /buildnitstion working

[unborn hound]

they dont deep dive but they explain what they do usually during a run

if u dont know the basics around a character i suggest just going to spider2b and listening to him explain what every move does then the moment u reach the rotation portion close his video on go to someone else i listed vid

[buoyant hornet]

@dire plinth check this guide, you can ignore the orb building tech for now since it has very little use these days https://youtu.be/owjzDPJCQbE?si=bMMuuREoOhLcnHuW

You can just keep holding basic for easier/smoother execution

Keep in mind the timing of the dodge cancellations is pretty tricky to grasp so you'll need some practice

[boreal lynx]

is his rotations wrong or smt

[dire plinth]

ok, thank you guys, big help ❤️

[unborn hound]

50/50 and sometimes they become outdated

[buoyant hornet]

Usually not wrong but not right either

And usually misses alternative rotations that later become the more used ones

Many characters have different rotation pathways depending on context, meta developments, etc

He usually covers the absolute most basic ones only

[unborn hound]

his sigless rotations are pretty good tho

[buoyant hornet]

yea

I wanted to make rotation guides but then someone else always uploads it first and they're better at it so LMAO

[boreal lynx]

speaking of rotations, am i supposed to be doing livs fast ult in wz

[buoyant hornet]

Depends

[boreal lynx]

i usually do 2 full ults and swap off

[buoyant hornet]

Lol there's never a straight answer to a general question like this one

But assuming you're playing ss0-ss3 comps in lightning then no she currently prefers 2 long rots

For darkflow idk what the people are cooking yet

[boreal lynx]

full sss with ish

[buoyant hornet]

Then short rot is used

[boreal lynx]

i only got 6m in df

[buoyant hornet]

But idk specifics @spiral merlin would be more helpful here

[buoyant hornet]

Oh-

Weeeell let's say your warzone gameplay needs some work

A lot of it

[boreal lynx]

Idk what im doing wrong i thought i was doing good till i see ppl scoring 20m 😭

[buoyant hornet]

Would have to see recordings if possible to be able to point out what might be wrong though

[spiral merlin]

whats this about

[buoyant hornet]

Because it seems like a lot is going wrong

[buoyant hornet]

They're asking about sss lightning team rots with liv

[spiral merlin]

liv does weak > strong ult

except for the opener in which she does weak and swaps off

[unborn hound]

just solo nana

[boreal lynx]

is it better

[spiral merlin]

no

solo liv better

[buoyant hornet]

Teddy new dollar store makeshift lightning amp it'll make solo worse unless they change it

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1319546719972757534/a4b89894ed531fdc-1.gif

[boreal lynx]

alr, and also how to do weak ult

[spiral merlin]

hold dodge in ult form

[boreal lynx]

thats it?

[unborn hound]

isnt this just zex's lilith strat again

[spiral merlin]

well for the full weak ult rota its swap in > hold dodge > ult1 > white orb > hold dodge > ult2

[unborn hound]

comrade teddy

[boreal lynx]

ima do it in a bit

[sick flower]

does limpidity need dlt?

[spiral merlin]

you can do some sp delays if youre feeling fancy it should save a tiny bit of time

[boreal lynx]

no

[boreal lynx]

i got lower

[spiral merlin]

you prob werent doing it right

[winter wind]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-munching-cat-kitty-munching-cat-eating-cat-close-up-gif-575723154021362882

[noble zinc]

[tacit sentinel]

guys i don't understand liv on DF

the 2nd rot always end up doing lightning dmg

instead of DF dmg

wtf

i'm doing the same sh1t

[noble zinc]

keep pushing joystick towards enmy

[noble zinc]

Long to long go

Or long to short

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1319546719972757534/a4b89894ed531fdc-1.gif

[tacit sentinel]

long to long

[orchid owl]

they literally made a gen 4 attacker that can't auto target

[noble zinc]

[orchid owl]

let me plug in a controller for livpidity

[noble zinc]

Otheres this as well bij can push small mobs towards other side of the map as well

Then when you kill and swap to nana

[orchid owl]

I can't comprehend your first reply

the grammar is too bogus

[noble zinc]

I mean she can push mobs as well doing her core

[orchid owl]

but you can't push spawn location

[noble zinc]

But you are 20* away from that location

[orchid owl]

exactly

[noble zinc]

Then nana hits air

[orchid owl]

I never had this problem with nanami, she barely moves away from spawn

[noble zinc]

[young badge]

its becuz u ult on wave interval

[noble zinc]

It's the same thing as cw

Or every other chr

[orchid owl]

cw did have this problem sometimes

[young badge]

hanying prime example

[noble zinc]

Wata as well got this Lilith 3stack ult as well

Yeah han too

In game problem

[orchid owl]

I understand

I guess it's just more prevalent in some than others

[young badge]

the game dont know where to lock when theres no enemy

so it jst sends u to wherver

[noble zinc]

[orchid owl]

usually your character would go the way you're facing tho

and not so far

with liv it seems like after 1 rot I moved 50 meters

kinda like when cw misses bike

[young badge]

its probable when during her dive ult animation is where she start moves

like for example pyroath slash ult if u ult on empty waves u literally would be on the edge of the map

and u cant even control where u face cuz when she slash ult she does a fkin 360 spin

[orchid owl]

yep

tho I never actually got that

[young badge]

in fire usually not

but plasma a lot

especially during early squishy waves

[sick flower]

beyblade ploom

[boreal lynx]

https://youtu.be/HbtJdYqf-ac

[spiral merlin]

Try doing 4 blaze wata instead of immediately swapping out
You need to be dodge cancelling with vera, plus 1st swap in vera only does 1 or 1.5 rota
Liv doesnt fast ult in darkflow, notice how you didnt even have 10 stacks to activate her df mode in 2nd rota
What memories are you using for vera cause her dmg seems low
After your first liv strong ult you either need to do 3x3p or 2x3p if you sp delayed, ignore hold dodge at this point
You only swap to wata if you have perfect sp delays
Aside from everything else just general speed optimisation you gotta be faster cause youre way more than 12s behind by the end you should be finishing with 2 liv strong ults

[spiral merlin]

hypertuned?

[boreal lynx]

yes

[spiral merlin]

fair enough

just seems a bit low to me

looks good tho

except deer you want her own cub

[boreal lynx]

i skipped it cause i was told it only buffed the initial part of her ult

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-traffic-cone-cat-with-stuff-on-head-black-cat-cat-with-cone-on-head-gif-5469525540650584465

first part of her ult isnt so bad with it its just that there are better cubs out there for other characters that need it more

[spiral merlin]

only 7m more to go

[boreal lynx]

ill rather light or nihil or this blasphamy

atleast im highest in my bracket now

so ty

[spiral merlin]

[orchid owl]

yeah this game has a huge learning curve

you will often wish to settle with less unless you got the motivation and desire to go higher

[wraith spruce]

it does?

[boreal lynx]

I genuinely can't get higher thn 11.3m

[buoyant hornet]

No veronica for some reason permanently enters fire/burn buff mode if you just set the affix in the team screen, even without inputting a single thing on veronica

She just instantly buffs fire/burn when the fight starts

[orchid owl]

it does
and the game is mainly composed of micro gameplay

[wraith spruce]

fr? tbh im mostly a lore player i didnt really realize

[orchid owl]

just try watching a war zone video

Empress, Magmadude, Altera

[wraith spruce]

i probably will since i want my vera stronger fr

[orchid owl]

Nuke017 and Nergi

tho idk if Nergi has his channel or not

Zexous

Windbell mostly does ppc runs but he has a few war zone vids aswell

now you could also watch CN youtubers altho I don't know any

[wraith spruce]

interesting

[buoyant hornet]

Lol even player who have been playing meta for years still learn new stuff all the time

[buoyant hornet]

Watching a warzone video without already knowing fundamentals doesn't really do anything tbh

It just looks like a rotation spam for anyone who isn't already familiar with meta concepts

[orchid owl]

he said he's a lore player, so he at least knows the controls

[buoyant hornet]

It's not about controls

[orchid owl]

if he can't make sense of what's happening he will realize there is a far bigger world outside of lore

[buoyant hornet]

It's about decision making lol

[orchid owl]

and that's exactly what you can recognize in these videos

constant split second decision making

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah people don't notice these things unless they're already familiar with them

Only exception is the few warzone videos that contain subtitles that explain decision making

[orchid owl]

I'm pretty sure you can tell it's difficult just by trying to replicate it and then failing miserably

[buoyant hornet]

Rydle has a couple, setsu has a bunch, I made only one so far

But yeah imo the best way to learn wz is to get an explanation of what's actually happening and why

[noble zinc]

[sick flower]

DOES LIMPIDITY NEED DLT

[young badge]

nuke has none

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1425655735076917288/1436376548952379494/image0.gif

[orchid owl]

if someone is watching war zone vids and not noticing it's fast, or even conceding it's hard, they don't even know how the base game works

[buoyant hornet]

Well for the most part, no

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

Depends on stat

[buoyant hornet]

btw nuke I tried the new ss0 ishmael strat

It's better than the old one for sure lmaooo

[sick flower]

stat? you mean invest?

[buoyant hornet]

although kinda tight to execute

[noble zinc]

Both

[buoyant hornet]

And hitlag can randomly screw you over

[sick flower]

ss3

[noble zinc]

It's much better than other delulu i do can cope least

[simple dew]

i played for a year already and i have no clue how qte management works

[noble zinc]

Ss3 2 rot don't need 3 rot need

[buoyant hornet]

It's not like, impossibly hard (I malded ishmael ppc so i'm already very familliar with her speed inputs) but doing it consistently in warzone can SOMETIMES be tricky

[noble zinc]

[wraith spruce]

what descisions fr

[sick flower]

how long do 2 rotations take?

[buoyant hornet]

Lol ishmael ppc shenanigans are making it to warzone I always had a feeling that would happen

[young badge]

does higher fps can do sp delay easier?

[noble zinc]

With setup below 10
If not it goes +

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah there's a lot that goes into a good warzone run

[sick flower]

what

[noble zinc]

Ive never played with ish difficult for me

[wraith spruce]

like what that sounds interesting

[noble zinc]

If you already done setup for insta ult next swap in
You can fit that within 10sec
Or else it goes above amp timer

Short+ long this

[orchid owl]

deciding what is the better rotation to clear early waves, or just 1 wave, and executing the same "step by step" perfect rotation even 3 minutes into the run

[buoyant hornet]

Wave mapping (to maximize how many waves get damaged/killed with as little time and resources as possible), qte usage, sometimes positioning, slight rotation alterations to adapt to certain wave flows

[sick flower]

so 2 rotations is long enough to fill the switch cooldown for startrail right?

[wraith spruce]

holy

[young badge]

wut da hell im too casual for ts

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[wraith spruce]

highest ive gotten this warzone is like 800k on the electric one with vera i think, if i learn more u think i could get higher?

[young badge]

same

[buoyant hornet]

Also that's not counting teams or characters that are flexible and allow a lot of adjustments to adapt to certain wave scenarios

[orchid owl]

well as much as it's about micro gameplay, you need a base for the macro
which is called human rights

[wraith spruce]

[orchid owl]

idk if you were talking about vera geiravor or vera garnet when you mentioned lightning war zone

neither is going to score a lot in lightning

[noble zinc]

There's still some time need to wait

[orchid owl]

one is because it's off element, the other because it's powercrept

[noble zinc]

Better push another short ult

[wraith spruce]

geiravor

i see

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah although without sp delay you lose 1-1.5s of nanami swap punctuality

[sick flower]

how do i do short ult

[noble zinc]

Gets sync with nana qte's as well then

[orchid owl]

yeah so war zones are mono elemental, you use lightning units in a lightning zone

[wraith spruce]

i can use that new lighting character since im at pity possibly