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Oh right at least I can use her sig from the new selector for harmo/20% buff
Seems like liv poincare vera dv is better
wow what invest lao
2.332 112
wait what builds exactly?
Vera dv
i'm getting a worse score trying your nanami double long rots
Oh that's the same as my invest lmao (I didn't ss3 liv yet but I have the shards)
but it's possible i did not know how to best make use of it
Might be me needing to overcompensate for ss0 liv being trash
Maybe ss3 doesn't need all that
what if you swap 4 bath from wata to vera, and put dv on wata
Oh wow
Liv poincare not bath
oh wait, 4 poin
Did you try bathlon liv or just not worth? I was waiting before building her darflow set to ask first
Got only 9.5 liv bath vera guin wata dv
@carmine reef what build was your 10m run btw
Lol wonder if ss0 liv can 9m df
I follow this but mix 1long 1short and 2long https://youtu.be/qStzMiQjlNg?si=EQ0Sjh0KUR_zZXzR
curently all server highest score for this investment
—
SS3 Liv
R2 = GA, Incan
4 poincare, 4 cottie
(6 atk, 6 core)
SSS Watanabe
R3 = Domain, Matrix, Incan
4 sign, 4 bathlon
(6 red, 6 class)
SS3 Vera
R3 = DLT, Axial Ray, GS
…
So you overlap liv's field time with vera's swap if the damage is necessary?
When vassagay appear
wata 4 alphonse 4 dv
vera 4 guin 2 eins 2 cot
liv 4 bath 4 cot
me when vassafraud gone from the map because i didnt kill them fast enough 
Im broke on ht mats now
oh goddammit already used ishmael on dark
universal broke
guess ill have to wing it with sigless feral
Ish?
alread used

she was on my dark team
I felt u
But with Ss5 r2 feral
i only have feral at SS0
and remember her weapon is locked behind the paid path of thunderbolt manual
still salty about that btw
well my feral is SS3
but without sig she is useless
can i use Vera or lilith as amp instead?
Yeah
Less heal buff
oh, vera is my only option left
Kinda yes if r2
lilith was also used in dark PPC
my vera is R3
gonna try vera with 4 sams and 4 guins
ss3 crepuscule or ss3 geiravor?
SS0 R3 geiravor but SS3 R2 nanaknight
i have both in those conditions so- do i just go crepescule then?
So do we know now what Liv uses at ss0? for darkflow and lightning
What does Selena ss3 do
Lets her flower ult be useful
how?
how?
how are you liking the sp delay shenanigans?
I don't think 2.332 teams sp delay
also @carmine reef 2.3 Liv does 1 full ult 1 fast ult (except last rot)
Lag cant do
i don't think 1 full 1 fast is the play for me
RIP
I tried it today and it wasn't as annoying as alpha and lightnign strikes bricking the run
just curious, for DF whose rot do you end on?
vera
i swear you cursed me
i've gotten hit by lightning trying to sp delay for the past 4 runs now
Yeah?
And you put Liv as starter and swap into wata 1 rot then vera 2 rot at the start right?
That works but try wata as starter and 1 rot, Vera 1 rot and then swap liv,
you'll still have 15 df stacks
And Vera rot isn't cancer starting rot and can just do the easy dodge rot for the rest of the run
yeah that's what I do. I'm just curious what he does for his 2.332 team
yeah
i'm trying the other way rn but my high score is like that
Did you get 10 mil
still 9.7
the problem is that slightly improving earlier wave progression makes wata/vera run into vassago
painge
Even that the only logical way cuz wata needs 1 rot to shreds df
so... I think if you start wata 1 rot into vera 1 rot you'll save about 3-4 seconds. Then if you do full ult > fast ult throughout you'll have enough time to double full ult on Liv for the end.
Liv starter try vera can get that 50% edb whatever jump start for us it is then 
that's what i'm trying rn
So I can either use flower ult now and do damage or use blue orb in a rotation
You mean Liv starter > wata > vera?
oh fk
Ys
B is for A
well B is for one way to do A
idk, maybe if both wata and vera are higher invest than Liv that'd be worth
because you delay your first Liv rot by 3-4 sec
Wut yr?full inv
For my 33.33 team? I did wata start

What?
blue orb is used to do a faster route to flower ult that ss0 cannot do
faster and more powerful
I was doing 2 full Liv ult per rot, so I needed to start Liv rot as quickly as possible. Combined with sp delay tech I managed to fit in Liv 2 full ult, wata 4 blaze ult, and vera ult1 at the end
I was just saying cuz my delulu tap somehow crossed 18.2 2tap
No sp delay worm went
underground liv hitting air
Nvm if it's worse for you
My bad bro 
I see
Well what I find really helpful as well is to setup energy before swapping Liv out, so the next time you swap her in she can insta ult. I think that's would save time regardless if you use sp delay. Because 2x3p dodge 3p is faster than hold dodge.
i've tried what you said and it's worse, though not by much
the issue is that you can't sp delay out of short ult
so you have to hold dodge on entry again next swap
also changes qte timings on vera in a way that's kinda worse
I saw Raiden Faf on SEA hitting 19mil+ with 33.33 team
Dalao gambare
Yeah est good
what 3s liffu rot
Light or df
prefer both
Think it'd be better dlt? Allows for more leniancy on short full or full short
yeah it would be doable if i put dlt on but
No dlt
not sure if this is worth taking ga off for
Light 2 variations I know
One alternate between 2/3
Another constant 2ulta with offifled hits of liv with ish buffing nana followup
i'm not either
This need 3s nana as well
wuts liffu short input
hold dodge
One blue-hood dodge another only hold dodge
I think in that video he just did qte for full ult during hold ba.
Blue-hold also letsmore energy for insta 3* 3p ult
yeah not talking about during liv rot, i mean it changes when vera gets her dv
and when she gets liv super qte
Next rot
and it's not saving as much time as it should because i can't sp delay out of it because no orbs
1st swap is 2x 3p into ult1?
i'll try with dlt out of curiosity though
First swap goes hold dodge
followup 2 variations said
Diff stat
it doesn't work with dlt either
or at least, it worked for first swap
but then i didn't have orbs on second 
i don't think it's worth taking ga off and still needing to do hold dodge
Can we recycle CUBs guys?
Yes
Ishmael 🔴🟡🔴 is superior
Discarding liv 3 rot.
#pgr #pgr_cn #punishinggrayraven #퍼니싱 #퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #ishmael

It works sometimes
It’s not consistent tho
I’m not sure what the issue/setup is but I run into same issue as u sometimes, and sometimes it works out
if your inputs are the same then most likely you're just slower sometimes and you go slow enough that dlt kicks in
What rank liv is this for
4s
Ykw that makes sense
U do the same tech regardless?
Oh ok thx
Mine will be ss0 until next week or two tho😔

Do u still do instant hold BA for first Nanami ult if she’s below SSS?
ish better than 21 ngl
21 is outdated
Superior
cooked
are you cooking or are you cooked
what rot are you doing atm?
Or enough time save somewhere to get squeeze in a wata ult
That's 212
Liv wata vera
For breakpoint purpose on some swaps I force 6 stack wata ult
i just saw i forgot to replace natasha with heisen
I get more score if i trigger parry 3s wata ults
But not same invest
i'm cooked
Luna: 3 Ping + 3 Ping + Hold BA + Hold Dodge + Ult + Blue 3 Ping + Red 3 Ping + Hold BA + Ult
Parhelion Amp: Double Blue 3 Ping + Hold Dodge + Yellow Orb + Ult + Full Enhanced Dodge Combo + Hold Dodge + Red 3 Ping + Ult
Lucid Wanshi: Double Blue 3 Ping + Hold Red + Spam Bullets + Dodge + Spam Again + Ult
Who is first, second and third in a good rotation where Luna is the DPS (even though I think Ishmael does morem..)
Hey! Just downloaded the game yesterday
Wanted to know if there is a valid tier list
nope! with the way endgame works here, tier lists arent really applicable.
you always need a team for every element. so instead we have this sheet, which shows the meta team for every element
using the correct element in a stage takes priority over having a fully built team.
so you generally wanna spread yourself out to cover multiple elements relatively well, as soon as possible
Interesting... Is powercreep huge in this game?
Got
Ahhh no wonder they give so many free characters early on
depends on your definition
a new unit will stay meta for a really long time, sometimes 2+ years.
but if the replacement does eventually come along, the difference is (most of the time) disgustingly high
Yea this giga stonk 
Ss3 team?
Yomm acc they be struggling 8mil
Idk how to play light now
SS0 liv leg
2.32.32 323 ss pet liv s pet nana
Me eos
What should I pick from my A member target selector?
Me 8.5 can then
i forget whats on there, but i think the white girl, XXI
Only got 8 rn
that SS3 solo score buga buga
9i think should be min
And from the free S rank selector what should I take?
Idk I just put sss rot here with some adjustment
Leg brick not even 8
depends on which selector we're talking about
what are your options
Lee Entropy , Liv Luminance , Kamui Tenebrion , Kerenina Ember , Nanami Pulse
tenebrion
Any particular reason for why?
Also, is the white hair girl Luna Oblivion? The one you were telling me to pick
all the others are so massively outclassed by easily accessible units, that theres no real point in getting them
non, the one from the A-picker is "21: XXI"
It literally says Darkflow
Ok bro
creature
I also have the option for selecting a S rank too
is it the massive selector with every S or
I think yea that one
the smaller ones
I use a translation app so the language might be a bit awkward.
r1 alisa so bricced breakpoint at early waves PepeRunCryTrip

either of these two are worth
I think the biggest difference is be able to kill the last Vasagay before it hides
Got it!
you can also do every units tutorial, even if you dont own them
so let that help you choose
2.132 123 111
no i just want to know with my invest 232 332 can i get 9-10m DF zone points

Kk
Well ye investment is one thing but rotation makes all the difference
High 8m
SS0 is stupid
For Liv
I can 10m I think as well
Yea
Wave 43 kill
Is 10m

I'm switching swap sequences continuously actually
But liv is on 2 full ults
ALWAYS
SS3 is so strong


Wait am I gauranteed a S rank on my first 10 pull in the beginner banner?
Good enough
No
60 pity guarantees the selected S rank on the basic banner
yes, pull SSS is too expensive
And there's no beginner banner

It's just your basic banner but with 40 pity if you never hit pity there
A lot cheaper than SSS+ 
I just used up all my luck then ig
Got the S and A ranks I selected in a single 10 pull
Currently I have a very strong Glacio team, invest 333. But I don't know how to play Selena. My score is even lower than DF team 232

Damn I can't even reach that Nihil score
I don't know if I should spend 1200x6 Vouchers to buy Luna Void pieces. 6 more pieces and I will have SSS.

you don't know how to play void team?

I do something similar
I think my issue is that I could not fit the last ult in the amp buff
yes bro you have to do 3 rounds in 10 seconds
I think this team play only kb will be faster
because you only need 3 orb slots 1, 2 and 4
I think it's mainly the dodge into hold dodge that causes the slow input
As soon as u get an S rank u lose 40 privilege
Doesn't matter if u hit 40 or not
pull fate and prayge for luck like me 
there is not enough orb for 4 ultimate bro
if you use hold dodge right after using ulti 1, that kick is very weak
Is this for ss3 or ss0?
ss3
Ss3
ss0 is DK RRDD on 2nd rot
333 light how many sec on overseer hell?
then i save 12
Ish 3 ult rot can fit within 9 seconds, extreme cases 8 seconds possible. Trick is to animation cancel. For example yellow orb can cancel red orb animation and vice versa, so you can ryr really fast. Hold dodge before ult1 animation can be cancelled as well, as long as you obtain the mark.
Pak 18k more bald
u in hero or leg main?
Hero
Dodge animation can be cancelled by hold dodge as well, so do it instantly after inputting tap dodge
Slacked last week my acc
Ok yep that was the cause, I've been double tapping then tap hold instead of hold the 2nd tap
Oh the fast drain thing that setsu was showing?
I’m not sure either, he just did RYR dodge x2 idk what he meant
Anyone got SS3 liffu rot?
Pretty standard stuff with ish
Smth everyone should have done before
hpld dodge ult hold dodge ult
3p hold dodge ult 3p blue spam white hold basic ult
3 rot every swap got 930 idk if good
whats the best thing to resonate on upper half of livs memories, they say its any atk but which one is the best if we are being specific
any
crit doesnt work on elements and hp/def is useless since she is immune 99% of the time
so i can js go resonate blue orbs and everything would be fine?
its js SS
Got inputs or video for that?
I saw this fit in amp timer right?


windbell sensei has one . I used it
how does Vera get enough orbs for 2 rotations if she uses 4 guin, 2 Eins, and 2 cottie?
for Darkflow
Lingya on wata and dodge tech
Its something like holding basic while pressing dodge occasionally
during wata phase attack while holding dodge, use Lingya cub, then swicth to Vera?
all you gotta do is a 3p on wata and then swap to vera when his rot is done
Im sending an example rn
Not the cleanest but good enough
give input 
im seeing different youtube darkflow runs yet was confused on vera and Liv having enough orbs for 2 rotations
wait im stupid 

What are you doing on Liv? its 2 full, aka full stack, ults
hold dodge ult can also be used tho
would giving Vera DLT also help for darkflow or she still wants to use Superconducting and glorious spear?
just r3 and dont think much
Yea, DLT required for Vera Double rot, even better if you have r2 so you could slot spear/ superconducting
yea i have r2, was wondering i sacrifice spear for DLT
No DLT means no life no money no double rot life over
when i switch to liv i need to:
hold dodge, ult, blue orb blue orb, white orb, 2nd ult
then what happens after that?
blue orb blue orb white orb?
2x blue orb
Me and zex doing runs, but we both doing 4 guin 2 eins
in order to get those white stacks?

4x white and hold basic
maybe i should record my run and let u guys tell me what i need to do better
Im breaking breakpoints
because im def doing something wrong
What score rn?
Im not gonna introduce you to sp delay yet, but when you get to livs 1st ult 2, press a blue ping before so you can do 2/3 3p into ult 1
instead of using hold dodge
i heard that with sss wata shes 4 guin 2 eins 2 cottie 
just wait till sunday and copy the top 1 on darkflow 
can we make charas glued to their sig sets
would cut all of the build shenanigans
nah make it like vera make sig 99% useless
all dmg buffs innate to kit
even tho people are using heisen liv that 100% edb is sorely missed
can you refund ht mats from mems
yea im gonna use derketo and diesel

what you think of rotation?
liffu need 2 blue orb for white orbs holy brick
that and no core timestop
didnt know it was this bad
You didnt dodge vera core animations
i think you have the general idea of the rotations but you need to be faster and not spend so long on vera
get ss3 and spend only 1 
and ye cottie is basically doing nothing for vera if ur not dodge cancelling

ss3 to have any semblance of being a unit
ss0 truly no rights
I mean ss0 can score 8mil
can ss3 liv solo 
ss3 sounds the same as sss so i would guess yes
df?
Yea
u say that but what does that mean? dodge during her red orbs attack?
after you fill bar with red orbs
if you need to press 2 reds its slightly faster to cancel
faster
you only press dodge after the first red
how much faster 
idk like 0.5s
prolly like .5s - 1s
u talking about that red line at the bottom of vera spear icon?
what about the 2nd red
should be hold basic
talk about maximizing damage doing the smallest of things 
thats the meta help for you
Not worth cancelling just hold basic ye
if save .001s then mald it for life
how about my liv rotation? was that more or less how u do it?
Dodge cancelling Vera is not small
Probably
You'll want to sp delay tho
ok now what does THAT mean 
In reality you press 3p only very very slightly earlier than ult
But practically yeah same time
i mean i could try but my brain would prob just be pressing buttons as fast as i can
a book mark to do it is after liv makes the void
The game gives you a nice flash indicator from the animation to tell you the point where you can press buttons again
can any of u tell me the timestamp where that mark is on my vid?
like 1 02 to 1 03
thanks guys u been a great help
btw magma I started doing the sp delay, I always had my right 3 orbs right to left bound to g t v, so T is the ping blue on liv
it makes it substantially easier to try and sp delay
with t and r as ping and ult respectively
nice
Maybe some others should try it makes it super easy
Also does liv's giga QTE have time stop?
nvm it says in the description I just missed it'
between lucia, hanying, and selena, who should i sss
not hanying that's for sure xd
i would do selena idk how much it is worth it though
and i think ss3 pyroath and ss3 selena would be my thing
instead of all in on one
all of them are ss3 alr
oh zamn
i really dk which one is better between pyro and selena
i guess it should be selena
I can get one SS3 with the base ticket reset, which is the best choice? Nanami, Vera or one of the attackers?
Everyone is SS already
i would go for nanami or selena
i could also use the selector on cw and convert them to s rank shards
you have a sss+ cw ?
ye
😭
funnily enough i got cw from base banner and that got me s+ vera
useful from beyond the grave
alpha still helping players after eos
true meta
and here i have s rank alpha never bothered to raise her
how come when i switch to heisen its 11s slower than Nats
heis vs nat still needs quite a bit of testing i think
i get better scores with nat
at sss
but its very close
for me heisen is nowhere near close, i feel like im doing smt wrong
supposedly the lower rank you are the better heisen is
im at sss
for darkflow liv have we decided that cottie is better than poincare
Bathlon Cottie?
yeah instead of bathlon poincare
well poincare is not competing with cottie, cottie is needed regardless
Eh
Liv darkflow uses bathlon not poincare
Tf was the point of either new memory set
always good to have options, it might be useful if/when we get a darkflow boss in ppc
my dark is flowing
It helps for some waves
The problem is roseblade
W24
Wata swaps in exactly on dead wave so he stays in place
Which makes it too far for parry
I mean surely ss3 is like 1.5m diff and that's what zex got

There goes my hopes and dreams of df ss0 reaching 10 mil df
Also im getting results that wata starter better than liv starter
When I did liv after wata run all the timings on the left remained red after like wave 20
I mean apparently ss3 hasn't hit 10 I think?
I can minmax 8.6 but I don't want to
Because the run brick happens 4 mins into the run
I'm tired boss
@peak halo yea ok nya definitely a whale

Ok no I'm pissed
I'll mald
Oh wow
Ss0 -> ss3 liv took me from 5.7 lightning to 6.75 in 2 tries
And idek know the optimal rots yet, I’m mostly doing 2x full ults with some fast + full ones in there
Gives u 2 white orbs per ult1
So u only need to blue ping once to white ping 4x
And dmg buff off + qte nuke
Liv’s qte is kind of unique too in that it does delayed/continuous dmg
So if u pop double qte, don’t click her’s instantly u have to wait
if you double qte does it refresh duration?
so basically not getting as much damage out of the qte
As far as I can tell, I think it does
it doesn't stack
Also I'm scoring higher doing 2x full ult on liv instead of fast+full idk if that's normal or if im messing smth up lmao
liv, somehow goated and a giant mess at the same time

oooh i discovered triple ult liv
Ful u @golden nacelle

2.3 liv?
ss3 yes
1 fast ult opener into full-fast-fast
but I think for df, full+full is still better(?)
yea that seems to be the best unless theres some stuff for a break point
maybe ss0 liv has rights after all
I got 7.3M df with ss0 liv, let's see what ss3 can cook
oh idk
the qte is so bad
at ss3 with good qte timing u can fix sm awkward waves
for sure.. it's night and day for liv
Way to sell your limited banner kuso 
ông thì biết cái đéo gì
omg its 25m df guy
does Vera run the Hervor triple ult build at ss3?
so Vera 3 ult, Liv 2, wata 1 is the rotation/
not with 3s wata
speaking of whats a good third member if SS0 R2 ish and SS3 R2 luna
i am thinking the list could be
3S wanshi R2
3S wanshi R1
3S lillith R2
2S0 Vera R3
4 guin 2 eins 2 cottie, dlt double ult then?
yes
and Liv does.. 2 full ult? (SS3)
felt like its too tight
Chỉ tôi đánh selena đi ông
swap in, hold dodge, ult1, hold dodge ult2.
3p, hold dodge, ult 1, 3p blue, white x4, hold ba, ult2
is it possible to do it with ss0 +ga? or do i need to change ga to dlt?
oh thats for ss3
sadge
ss0 u can do full+fast
same principle?
3 ult in opening rot? or you do the full+fast on next switch in
next switch
hmm i usually still do 2 full ult on opening rots, idk if its unoptimal
New lightning team confuses me. What memories should be on SS+sig Nanaknight and Liv? Grayravens isn't helpful suggesting Heisen for both. SSS+sig Feral just uses 4gui+4DV I assume?
Both Nanaknight and Liv use Heisen for now
fffflkllkk
vassagooooo
I went from +16s to only +5 after that damn wave
then from +12 to +2 when he showed up 2 again 2 waves later
so stupid
@noble zinc did you test any ss0 liv stuff yet
What about dakrkflow/another 4-set? It shows essentially different mixes of cot/poincare/frederic. And for darkflow it (again) shows bathlon on both her and Vera
df Liv runs 4 bathlon 4 cottie
Vera should be on either: 4 guin 2 eins 2 cottie (if Wata is SSS)
or:
4 Hervor 2 guin 2 cottie (if Wata not SSS)
the idea being that without 12s swap timer, Hervor allows Vera to do 3 ults (covering downtime)
curently all server highest score for this investment
—
SS3 Liv
R2 = GA, Incan
4 poincare, 4 cottie
(6 atk, 6 core)
SSS Watanabe
R3 = Domain, Matrix, Incan
4 sign, 4 bathlon
(6 red, 6 class)
SS3 Vera
R3 = DLT, Axial Ray, GS
…
I saw this guy do some crazy builds
highest scoring 2.332.3 on sea
He's doing 4 poin 4 cot liv, 4 sig 4 bath wata, 4 dv 2 cot 2 eins vera
Yeah rn there's still a lot of testing needed to know what's actually best for each rank
All of the possibilites listed are usable but will have some minor or major differences in outcome that we can't come to a consensus on just yet
I'm too broke to try his build anyways xd for some reason the sig energy gain on liv is different with 4 poin vs 4 bath even though there's still 4 cot, I'm only able to keep up with his rotation by doing SP delay
2 good player I know got identical scores with vastly different builds it's funny
That should never be a thing though
💀
I'm hoping it stays a thing for a little longer so I can keep up with that guys rot, idk why he gets so much more sp using 4 poin
KR Discord just fked up and posted a video too early
about new unit
Should I swap 4shakes -> 4hervor permanently at this point? I always run out of orbs when running her solo, and switching with Pyroath is only a marginal improvement over staying on Vera and farming orbs with basics anyway.
Although it's no big news or anything ig
He's just pinging three 3pings before the 2nd ult1 lol
ping ping dodge ping ult1
hm.. .capping out at 8m df for now
Feyer, what do you think the highest score for df 232 112 111 is?
was he? I thought he was doing hold dodge
I was watching at .25 and was counting, so I thought he only did 2
who
w ss3 vera/liv, sss wata R1
hero?
yes
was stuck at 7.8 for awhile and then got a run where the stupid worm didnt burrow
Same order as shown on Anniv stream
I'll stick to sp delay 💀
?
so its rosetta on next beta?
if I figure out sp delay i think my score can go even higher
ye
No bruh Teddy was first teased
@cobalt prawn ?
I'm doing sp delay instead of the 2p hold dodge because he's getting more sig energy, when I tried with 4 bath 4 cot, it's too slow
I'm only able to keep up with time by doing sp delay, idk what it is about the 4 poin that's making him get more sp on hold dodge on rot 2
what rank is ur pyro
You know to do it around the time liv makes the void right?
and does she have sig + dlt
omg mb i completely forgot her 
SS, Wata is SS3
I thought u press it around same time as ult 2
All sigs with 1R
You press ping + ult around the time of the void
so for ss3 does this mean I can immediately hold dodge after ult2
Nah, doesn't give you stacks
hmmm ok lemme try
@cobalt prawn I do it like 90% of the time right now, I've always had V T G as my ping 3 2 1 respectively, and so T is my blue ping on liv ult form. So I just press T and R to do sp delay
oh so just 3p x2 ult 1
works almost every time
(does this need dlt)
Yea
Yea if you need to 3p before ult 1 you didn't do it right
Nopers
yay ok
I'll send you a video rq since I'm doing df wz rn
ok thx
i think im spam tapping ult too early or smth?
dont have time to 3p
OMG I GOT IT
oof not consistent
Yea, around that
so I shouldn't spam press ult to cast it the instant it's up then
yeah don't mash it
You can, but I just ping and ult right after once
Ik kuro has issues responding to feedback but ig I'll at least try to do a bug report with video proof on lilith's red not working on mobs lol
Who knows maybe SOMEHOW they never recieved a report on it before
thank you for your feedback. we appreciate all our commandants reaching out to us. in response to your feedback, please see the following bugfix:
- lilith red orb fix now available in top-up shop
They just dropped a hotfix with 30 separate fixes and didn't fix a literal character like ok

if you do what I do and have your 1st 2nd and 3rd orb as buttons bound you can do the T for 2nd orb
so it's right next to R
that was just my keyboard setup already before learning sp delay for liv so it was convenient
It's really easy to do it every time
unless you're controller 
sure
Depends on invest
I mean like your acc invest
don't ask me though
I'm not confident in the info I can give you xd
Heh, I’m on mobile
are you missing any other ss3’s fork
Do you mean an ss3 dupe or a character you're missing?
VERY hectic tapping is happening to my screen
gl 
okay well you got it nice
Thankfully I only have to do it once per rot
Im not super consistent yet the timing is hard
I struggled less w SSS bonka tbh
what ss3’s do you have fork
add a usb dongle to connect your phone to a keyboard 
Lemme show U screenshot
for ss3 dupes from A rank banner selector rn: Nanami > Selena >= Crepuscule > Geiravor
yea I'm just joking gl with trying to do that on ipad certainly takes more skill than what I'm doing
@pearl solstice
Ishmael is also an option but eh
We have no confirmation yet on whether future units will be phylotree limited too so
Wait why Nanami over the rest
refer to feyer prio
Is it cuz of liv
Wait ur iuno

Wrong wife
It's a high value ss3 mainly because she herself is a versatile high value unit used in many teams (ss3 gives her 10% more shred, double dmg on hold basic slam which is an already hugely damaging move, double dmg on backflip explosion move after holding yellow in ignition, double ignition stacks)
Good luck to retain
Her ss3 doesn't give any rotation changes but it's high value because of how it affects her shred and dmg values as well as ignition stacks (veronica works well with higher burn stacks because she makes them into explosion ticks instead of small dmg btw)
ikr lol
But we can't select veronica
Plus I heard she isn't a lot better than alisa
Is that true
Uh she is a lot better than Alisa
excluding liv cause she's phylotree
alisa still used in glac team
Ss0 vero = sss alisa in phys
She's kinda garbage in physical unfortunately but she's broken in ignition
phys team just so bricked rn 
mambo got reborn again
yeah lmao
Vero is very helpful, thanks to skipping her that I got Liv SSS
Ohhh
what are the team scores rn? It's like ice is lowest and how far behind is phys?
Ignition with nanami
Highest Darkflow 26m
Lowest Ice 12m
btw if you echo is less than SSS then vero would still be an objective improvement regardless
I got Vero because I skipped Dante. Was a good decision though since we have good ignition substitutes. Meanwhile you're not doing Slash without Vergil
Ohh ok
Phys 18m, higher than Glacio & Plasma
Even more so if your hanying is r1, veronica allows hanying to run shred reso instead of DLT and she can do 1 rotation while veronica does 1 long rot
feels like -3m score from that alone
Nah phys only gets better at equal invest
Although we're talking about max invest because Vero is mostly dogshjt at low invest compare to a well invested Alisa
333 vs 333
Is physical the weakest again

Ice is
Phys worst team with a full gen 3 setup
Ohh ice
nergi do you have videos of lilith red orb clearly whiffing on mobs
How strong is liv
Liv is lighting right
hanying being gen 3 feels so wrong to be true
Trying to submit a bug report and collecting as many obvious videos as I can
Liv is the second strongest attacker I think, at max invest
How second
Shes definitely just the strongest
Yeah ss0 liv is looking pretty disappointing rn but that might change if we get a new gen lightning amp (or if you have sss feral/ishmael for some reason)
I wanna say Midianca should be second but to bring Dark to nearly 21m with Daren is the biggest feat I've seen
Damn
Currently ss0 liv swap with nanami is really disappointing under gen 2 amp class passive values at ss0
If I boost her further would she be good
One new Dark Tank even dealing zero damage could bring Dark to the strongest team easily
Like ss3
Also overseer hell can be 10/11s
SS3 is super good on liv
yeah her ss3 is ridiculous
under sss is non human
Liv is strongest overall because she's good at all invest
Is it like 2x better
kuso games been gatekeeping a lot of the kit at SS3, liv bianca etc. Vera was like the last really good at SS0
Midianca trash below SSS
Same with ephia there’s no diff in scores 
ehhh kinda? yeah
Hmm
Like a lot better
Dianca is so cracked at SSS WTF Kuro
I fcking hate Midianca
I should've skipped that bjtch

Although it's either her or stay with Lilith semi solo which are both trash choices
Cringe
only 15k for each copy on normal banner
so to ss3 her you need 30k total on normal banner assuming you don't get an early pull
that's why you should pull on fate for guaranteed early
Where sss liv
pakyu
Good
10/10/10
Im skill issue anyway so so accept 12
Whel
For sss overseer can 10/10/11 or 8/10/11 if you have s+ Luna owhh
Oh wait you have s+ cw so could be 9/10/11
goddamn whel these days
CW still meta fr fr

And Luna is off elementing
So said how my cw had 1 place to live
Fk u liv
Nah just get s+ Luna and she’s completely gone
is rayd usable with ss0 crap
Ohh right
Wait she is already ss0
So I only need one more no?
ye
Is glaciation or dark flow better for that war zone?
Try both and see which one you score better on
Since forever
darkflow better unless your glacio is just a generally higher investment
Propaganda
Proeieokwpaal
I’m just going to skip it entirely then I just need to do my weeklies 
Everyone is sss except my wanshi is sss3 and my wata is sss6
are you ss3?
Darkflow would be way better
yes, ss3 liv and vera, sss wata, all R1
none of them are fully hypertuned either
because I'm very poor
in hypertune mats rn
I think i could do wave 42 if ht
Oh wow
ice amp radiance
I really thought it would be rosetta ice amp
Service shop?
spend min 5 rc
Ohh ice amp teddy
So need to seen qu or wanhi how changing them rotations
darkflow most likely much better then
I wish
HELL YEAH
sss wata + wanshi + teddy time?
hm ig wata makes no sense if wanshi sss alr anyway
maybe just... ayla teddy wanshi?
Why want ayla when teddy
Service shop? Is that the dorm?
Maybie but should be like lilith banner
Sss wata wanshi teddy luna lilith time
Free!?
So her shard will also be available on voucher?
Omg teddy is dorm shop unit
Bruh pgr became less f2p frendly every patch
Not confirmed yet
Well not dorm shop but free like Lilith
Should be
I hope she’s strong like lilick
Ofcourse free in voucher
Time to make her SSS(Can't do)

Not for first week atleast
Imagine, she will be the second Veromid
But I can
what are the average scores you guys have seen, if any, for 2.332.3 df wz
Fat whel
Fak whel
I don’t really care about that much, just need someone replace Qu, finally 
need someone to replace d*ren
No more shukra in wz it's win guys



now sleep





