#📨・meta-help
icy otter
carmine reef
so you're just doing something wrong
icy otter
Overpinged where
formal radish
What rank is ur liv
steady otter
oh ye
S rank back to back
carmine reef
i pinged more orbs than i personally need to just to emulate what your first swap would be like
icy otter
Idk how you have 16 orbs after 1st ult
steady otter
wuwa update when
ripe stag
oh ye
S rank back to back
What's the streak count rn
trim apex
Overpinged where
Also is your Liv fully reso'd/ht on memory? Awakening chara give them orbs on swap in
carmine reef
What rank is ur liv
ss3
icy otter
Also is your Liv fully reso'd/ht on memory? Awakening chara give them orbs on sw...
I know how to build
formal radish
wtf zex whel
carmine reef
got lucky actually
icy otter
carmine reef
first character i got an early on themed event banner in my life
steady otter
What's the streak count rn
discord - vero - liv
dawn cloak
What's the streak count rn
Similar to Nana -> Ish -> Lilith -> Selena (CNY)
Now is Vero -> Liv -> Teddy -> Rosetta (CNY)
carmine reef
well i guess technically it wasn't themed event banner
ripe stag
discord - vero - liv
Tomorrow will be 3x S rank back to back
icy otter
i pinged more orbs than i personally need to just to emulate what your first swa...
Yeah you have 16
Only need 16
steady otter
yeah
ripe stag
Similar to Nana -> Ish -> Lilith -> Selena (CNY)
Now is Vero -> Liv -> Teddy -> ...
I think Kamui will be CNY
carmine reef
no i'm saying you should not have only 14
icy otter
Where did bro get the extra 2 only God knows
dawn cloak
CNY unit wont be free. Simply impossible from business perspective
icy otter
formal radish
CNY unit wont be free. Simply impossible from business perspective
Ok
carmine reef
you're most likely missing hold basic or not doing it long enough
spiral merlin
Surely we find out if Teddy is regular free or Lilith free tomorrow
ripe stag
CNY unit wont be free. Simply impossible from business perspective
What if
Paid S > Paid S > Paid S > Paid S > Free A > Paid S > Paid S >......
trim apex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&...
without a recording of your runs we will never know tho
opaque ridge
Surely we find out if Teddy is regular free or Lilith free tomorrow
uniframe
dawn cloak
What if
Paid S > Paid S > Paid S > Paid S > Free A > Paid S > Paid S >......
Possible
Brace for the worst as always 
icy otter
without a recording of your runs we will never know tho<:DumbDawn:84238412023044...
Nah he's right
I started mashing ult2 at some point
carmine reef
carmine reef
you can mash it as long as you're holding ba
ripe stag
Possible
Brace for the worst as always <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Wait even worse
What if all paid S
trim apex
lol. I thought if you kept holding ba it won't let you ult early lmao
carmine reef
that's what i do
icy otter
Vera alrd kills me on claw
carmine reef
but you can also just like, wait
icy otter
These pc players
carmine reef
until you've confirmed that second part of hold ba is happening
normal maple
w8 is it true liv memory is bug or is it really just ass?
icy otter
OK I'll wait
steady otter
pc player is cheating
icy otter
If we leaking swap cd so be it
carmine reef
hold ba is action locked so there's no problem holding ult in it
carmine reef
you're just ulting before you actually start that second part
carmine reef
what about it
icy otter
I don't wanna miss it
carmine reef
why would you miss it
carmine reef
i'm confused what you're confused about
white oriole
Do we have Darkflow rot yet? 
dawn cloak
w8 is it true liv memory is bug or is it really just ass?
Just mid af at below SSS
Even at SSS its still debatable if worth or nah
You can read its effect by urself to check
carmine reef
if first set of qtes are on hold basic then second set will be on ult
trim apex
What about qte then
Adjust depending on current wave. remember you can reset Vera's qte with wata dv. You can Vera qte as early as ult1, or as late as white orbs I think.
carmine reef
if first set of qtes are on core then second set can be on hold basic
icy otter
Adjust depending on current wave. remember you can reset Vera's qte with wata dv...
I do it on hold dodge
So it's active during ult 1
Then reset with wata
During hold basic
But when during hold basic is what I needed
trim apex
I do it on hold dodge
sure you can, just be careful not to apply eins on a dying wave
carmine reef
don't do ult1 dv unless it's a vassago or a bear or smth and you know there won't be another terrorist wave like that coming up after
icy otter
No ult1 vera eins
normal maple
Just mid af at below SSS
Even at SSS its still debatable if worth or nah
You can...
i tested it yea heisen still better for SSS since doesnt require qte much from nanami much for shred too
icy otter
Dv on hold basic
icy otter
carmine reef
don't just automatically blow it if the wave doesn't merit its use
icy otter
Does eins cd work per enemy or just internal cd on last activation
I thought it was based on wave
carmine reef
it sure isn't
trim apex
Does eins cd work per enemy or just internal cd on last activation
internal 10 second cd, cd ticks during timestop as well
dawn cloak
I thought it was based on wave
Thats ele shred like shakes bathlon
carmine reef
good question
icy otter
carmine reef
trim apex
Why is it not per enemy
cause that'd be op
it's a 2pc passive after all
icy otter
I just don't press
icy otter
It's all terrorism bro
carmine reef
don't do ult1 dv unless it's a vassago or a bear or smth and you know there won'...
.
carmine reef
yea alpha for sure gets the eins donger
trim apex
I just don't press
there's no absolute here. Pay attention to the wave. If the wave is healthy, apply eins. If the wave is dying, delay eins to next wave.
dense tiger
@icy otter are you legend or hero you didnt answer earlier ?
icy otter
I remember the 1 full 1 fast ult runs on liv I did were without wata ult start
1st vera ult and 2 liv ults with fire shred
trim apex
qte is flexibile, but the general rule of thumb is to apply eins on waves with more health.
crystal rune
there's no absolute here. Pay attention to the wave. If the wave is healthy, app...
im ngl with 4s liv eins application kinda almost doesnt matter WorryHype
carmine reef
ok whel
white oriole
im ngl with 4s liv eins application kinda almost doesnt matter [WorryHype](https...
Do you have Darkflow rot for F2P team
trim apex
im ngl with 4s liv eins application kinda almost doesnt matter [WorryHype](https...
right, Liv dmg just go brrrrrrrrrr
icy otter
<@701035558322831421> are you legend or hero you didnt answer earlier ?
Oh sorry
Legend
Are you in hero
icy otter
Even so ur inv should be higher than 7m
crystal rune
i think hes also 2.3 liv
dense tiger
Are you in hero
nah legend as well
crystal rune
oh wait
icy otter
Oh ok
crystal rune
youre 2.3 wata
carmine reef
are you calling 2.3 liv f2p LMAO
dense tiger
Even so ur inv should be higher than 7m
yeah so i am doing something wrong
icy otter
Yes
crystal rune
are you calling 2.3 liv f2p LMAO
he has 2.3 liv
dense tiger
like idk
crystal rune
oh
trim apex
Even if vera qte is up during ult 1
also Vera's qte animiation is long, so pause long before trying to reset qte cd with wata using dv
crystal rune
carmine reef
i'm 2.332 112 9.7m in hero, should be higher in legend
carmine reef
if i were in legend most likely mid 10m
dense tiger
i'm 2.332 112 9.7m in hero, should be higher in legend
i have the same invest and i am at 6.9 in legend
icy otter
Mods can we spy on the saccs
carmine reef
carmine reef
you are doing most likely several things wrong
icy otter
i have the same invest and i am at 6.9 in legend
I'll be recording my runs and if there's an upgrade you can try to copy that
Unless zex posted his run
carmine reef
Wait my Darkflow should be 2.32.32 <:thinkOwO:1414672241785831534>
uh oh poverty
i sentence you to hervor vera jail
icy otter
Eventho I'm 2s liv
white oriole
uh oh poverty
i sentence you to hervor vera jail
icy otter
2.3 wata
Guys laugh at this user
All below 3s watas get banned from leg and hero
Stay in leader
carmine reef
i have a recording but i don't usually upload until the week is over in case i end up getting a better score at some point
white oriole
lol Wata is cooked without 3S?
formal radish
You just don't wanna leak your zaza
carmine reef
but i have some time to stream rn if you are able to look
dense tiger
but i have some time to stream rn if you are able to look
yeah for ssure
white oriole
I don't wanna shard him 
icy otter
3s wata burn god
white oriole
I have like 60k BP but I wanna see the next one
carmine reef
k i'll get in 1 se
carmine reef
oh
icy otter
Watch theirs
dense tiger
nah i will be looking at yours
white oriole
Can I see both of your stuffs
carmine reef
oh okay
white oriole
I like looking at stuffs
carmine reef
sure hope my internet isn't dying rn
icy otter
Aura loss
Ok I go study
Then all night mald
All night mald to get 20w higher
At what point of Vera's own rot does gs apply
To herself
It does apply to herself right
still python
Can anyone tell me what should I change or what rotation should I do? I try a few time and only manage to get 20 s in knight
dawn cloak
I have like 60k BP but I wanna see the next one
It seems tomorrow next patch beta test
Maybe info on Teddy free or not
Who knows
white oriole
It seems tomorrow next patch beta test
Maybe info on Teddy free or not
Who knows
Oh it's that close
Guess I will be waiting then 
dawn cloak
OOF 20sec knight is solo SS0 R1 Nana score
nova forum
does lim """""""need""""""" sig reso?
dawn cloak
I hope we get Darkflow rot before then
There is, but yea as Zex said, Vera 4Hervor so she can 3x ult (or maybe 4x ult, not sure)
Liv always does full ult, as to consume the most df stacks
nova forum
4hervor or 4guin?
dawn cloak
Only if Wata not SSS, Vera 4Hervor seems better
dawn cloak
4hervor or 4guin?
Nah, need cottie still
dawn cloak
I think setsu has it updated
dawn cloak
my df is 2.332.3
Well I was answering for Smose, not you
white oriole
There is, but yea as Zex said, Vera 4Hervor so she can 3x ult (or maybe 4x ult, ...
So none of their rot change? 
I assume Vera > Liv > Wata?
nova forum
white oriole
Wait no then Wata no shred
chilly trail
my df is 2.332.3
Better try liv 4poin 4cott, vera 4dv 2cott 2eins/guin, wata 4alph 4bath
dawn cloak
Yea Wata first just to activate df
Then forever qte bot
carmine reef
zamn streaming actually drops my frames
dawn cloak
So none of their rot change? <:peeb:1340242024686944287> I assume Vera > Liv > W...
Some said start Liv -> wata -> Vera
Some also said start Wata -> ult as fast as possible -> Vera -> Liv as to no have cooldown on Liv
dense tiger
i was doign the same rot as you except i wasnt starting liv
chilly trail
i can't really try cuz ima hoarder
It score high almost 12m
dense tiger
look
white oriole
Some said start Liv -> wata -> Vera
Some also said start Wata -> ult as fast as ...
For each of them I just do the same thing, the only difference is just holding Ult at the start right? 
dawn cloak
For each of them I just do the same thing, the only difference is just holding U...
Wata and Vera yea
Also Wata once become df, he stays df
But will turn back fire IF you swap back to him
So dont, he forever qte bot after that
white oriole
dawn cloak
That's why Hervor
Yes, you'll be swimming on orb
dawn cloak
is hervor for gei without dlt?
But for SSS using 4Hervor lower score it seems
nova forum
carmine reef
hervor is redundant for sss
crystal rune
sss has built in hervor
nova forum
BruH wtf
dawn cloak
because it's to do 3 rot
Is it true?
I see the orb is too many to ever need dlt
But dunno
nova forum
idk what to use 
carmine reef
Is it true?
I see the orb is too many to ever need dlt
But dunno
bruh what?
there's no way we're talking about the same character
white oriole
Oh do I still do cancels with Vera in Darkflow?
dawn cloak
idk what to use <:AylaTired:673399091660849185>
Use whatever you have already
carmine reef
you think vera gets too many orbs without dlt?
are you sure you're not thinking about liv?
dawn cloak
bruh what?
You got recording with Hervor?
nova forum
i haven't build df set yet
carmine reef
i don't have a recording with hervor
but without hervor dlt only barely sustains 2 rots
formal radish
9
dawn cloak
i don't have a recording with hervor
Just answer normally bro
Why the need to be aggressive?
We're all in testing period
Whats use of being aggressive?
formal radish
fight fight
dawn cloak
but without hervor dlt only barely sustains 2 rots
Hence I asked 4Hervor, not dlt
Have you test? A recording?
Everything needs proof now
We all going blind
dawn cloak
you need both hervor AND dlt
Yea is this proven?
I ask for reference. Its not hard
nova forum
expensive team ngl
formal radish
Im pretty sure I tried this
Hervor no dlt definitely cant from what I remember
Cause I tried alot of random bs for gwyn back then
dawn cloak
Oh do I still do cancels with Vera in Darkflow?
Yes, since its way faster and more dmg
Its basically her canon rot now
Cant go back to CN dv guin Vera anymore
dawn cloak
<:DumbDawn:842384120230445116> expensive team ngl
Limited and expensive
Also using 2 fire unit 
So yeah
nova forum
kuro copying hoyo monetization smh
carmine reef
since basic math isn't enough to convince, here. this is after 2 rots with hervor no dlt
formal radish
kuro copying hoyo monetization smh
Money is a language kuro understand
dawn cloak
since basic math isn't enough to convince, here. this is after 2 rots with hervo...
Okay, good
This first swap in Vera?
Or it stays the same throughout?
carmine reef
hervor just gives 3 orbs after ult
dawn cloak
kuro copying hoyo monetization smh
[2nd but better] business strategy
Always has been 
carmine reef
in terms of orb sustain it's stricly worse than dlt, and dlt itself only barely manages to sustain 2 rot by itself
hazy sandal
crystal rune
dawn cloak
<a:eatt:1082546858553004092>
DF finalized?
Or possible change next week?
nova forum
<a:eatt:1082546858553004092>
hai i need detailed guide on 2.332.3 122 111 ln team (no AI allowed)
formal radish
aw
nova forum
build and orb input
carmine reef
tested, still same on 2nd swap
not that there would be any reason for it to change but, just for you
3 rot not doable without dlt
zinc charm
is it possible to do 3 ult rots on ss0 dlt liv
nova forum
aight so lim 4bath 4cot, gei 4her 4cot, watank 4alp 4dv?
carmine reef
aight so lim 4bath 4cot, gei 4her 4cot, watank 4alp 4dv?
no
zinc charm
is it any better than 2 full ult tho
carmine reef
for your invest no hervor
nova forum
wat
carmine reef
hervor is for poverty
nova forum
she's ss3
carmine reef
is it any better than 2 full ult tho
depends on what team and what invest and what enemies but probably not
dawn cloak
in terms of orb sustain it's stricly worse than dlt, and dlt itself only barely ...
Hmm I see. Thank you very much
nova forum
also 4bath?
carmine reef
for df at least, 2 full ult is the way to go
zinc charm
for your invest no hervor
its not 4 hervor 4 cottie ?
carmine reef
1 full 2 fast is viable in light but you need to be fast for it to be worth it
carmine reef
its not 4 hervor 4 cottie ?<:KareninaGasp:910236491362488370>
only for people with ss wata and ss vera both
zinc charm
1 full 2 fast is viable in light but you need to be fast for it to be worth it
i just do 2 full ult like df rots because
zinc charm
only for people with ss wata and ss vera both
then herv with sss wata?
zinc charm
ehhehe
carmine reef
carmine reef
you know what let me just link to an earlier msg
zinc charm
carmine reef
here read this
dawn cloak
gawd do i have to change my build again dawg
Its fun being on sync huh?
carmine reef
so you can understand why i say these things
crystal rune
why do you say these things
zinc charm
Its fun being on sync huh? <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
not fun when i dont have ht material
had to use lots of dorm currency to change
natasha mem to heisen for liv
and for her darkflow mem
zinc charm
eh wait 4 guin 2 eins/2 cottie
trim apex
🍿
zinc charm
oh well gotta wait to refill my ht material
trim apex
Hmm I see. Thank you very much
what is your df invest again? Maybe I can find a ref video for you
carmine reef
iirc you have that role like 3 month ago
more like 9 months ago kek
normal sierra
it was a funny story
carmine reef
if you were around for the trs incident, that's why they removed me 🗿
peak halo
had to use lots of dorm currency to change
natasha mem to heisen for liv
and f...
Check theres anywhere ht-ed memo for vera build
Atleast thats with i did with liv df builds
steady otter
more like 9 months ago kek
oh no, they should be give back the role to u
shy jackal
trslao 
steady otter
it was a funny story <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
tell me
carmine reef
well, the other helpers have tried suggesting it multiple times
zinc charm
Check theres anywhere ht-ed memo for vera build
Atleast thats with i did with li...
well it just mean i can increase my wz, and i am pretty much have nothing to do but that kek
carmine reef
but the mods don't like me 
surreal nest
if any1 who can do livs sp delay consistently any tips on how to time it
sick flower
is my dark team correct?
carmine reef
if any1 who can do livs sp delay consistently any tips on how to time it
just need to practice
crystal rune
if any1 who can do livs sp delay consistently any tips on how to time it
for long ult try 3ping during the flash on her last core passive hit
carmine reef
who ? ezra ?
among others
steady otter
🦓
limber yoke
if any1 who can do livs sp delay consistently any tips on how to time it
when u see a black crack on her animation
carmine reef
anyway it doesn't really matter
the main benefit of helper was no chat cd restriction but that's gone now anyway
and i'm still helping people here with or without the role
nova forum
aight so for 2.332.3 its lim 4bath 4cot, watank 4alp 4dv, gei 4guin 2eins 2cot
carmine reef
yes
trim apex
if any1 who can do livs sp delay consistently any tips on how to time it
Like Nergi said. At the end of hold BA animation there's a flash. After the flash you can input ping again, so 3-ping blue into ult2 as quickly as you can when you see that flash.
carmine reef
but why do you keep writing lim
limber yoke
aight so for 2.332.3 its lim 4bath 4cot, watank 4alp 4dv, gei 4guin 2eins 2cot
goodluck sp delay
normal sierra
tell me
nahh, Zex is here, can ask him instead, he will tell if he wants to
I remember one time talking about it here, mods became... irritated, so ima leave it be now lul
steady otter
appreciate that pal
nova forum
but why do you keep writing lim
too many liv
zinc charm
lim??? as in limbus company??
nova forum
steady otter
nahh, Zex is here, can ask him instead, he will tell if he wants to <:EvilLiv:97...
🦓
zinc charm
LIMBUSSSS COMPANNNYYYY
carmine reef
dm me windbell
nova forum
lim??? as in limbus company??
lim||p di--||
zinc charm
lim||p di--||
i saw SSS wata not being switched in for the second time ever on df runs
limber yoke
needs sss bera
carmine reef
ye full 3s team doesn't need to switch him in although according to nergi you can still switch him in if you're sp delaying both rots
zinc charm
i aint doing that sp delaying thing
trim apex
but the mods don't like me <:evilliv:1272415890453041223>
I can see why🍿
normal sierra
can we 2 rot without bothering with sp delay? or is that required?
zinc charm
i am gonna go bald if tried to do that
limber yoke
can we 2 rot without bothering with sp delay? or is that required?
u can but slower
carmine reef
sp delay doesn't change how many rots you can do, it's just for speed
zinc charm
so even with 3s wata i need to switch in to him after 2 rot vera hmm
normal sierra
ohh oki 
zinc charm
well i can tried to see if it can surpassed the score
carmine reef
so even with 3s wata i need to switch in to him after 2 rot vera hmm
better to do vera liv wata
normal sierra
I prolly need to learn it for ppc runs anyway 
carmine reef
wdym
zinc charm
better to do vera liv wata
who started the rots, wata from liv?
limber yoke
u can do 1 long 1 short for df rot
normal sierra
trim apex
The point of sp delay is to increase the speed of your liv rots, so that you have time for 2 full ults at the end of the run.
limber yoke
can ignore sp delay completely
carmine reef
who started the rots, wata from liv?
liv start into instant wata swap 1 rot to set up his df shred, into vera to stack df gauge, into liv
trim apex
Ironically at the highest invest sp delay will yield the most improvement
carmine reef
yeah
zinc charm
i c i c
carmine reef
you're the 2.332.3 guy right
steady otter
I prolly need to learn it for ppc runs anyway <:BombiCry:1029550296277459065>
sp delay things ?
i would say 0,3-0,4 sec different prob ?
🦓
doesnt matter much
zinc charm
you're the 2.332.3 guy right
erm no i dont have ss3 units for df team
only wata being 3s
normal sierra
doesnt matter much
but wut if I need just that to trim it by a second?
carmine reef
yes do it like that
limber yoke
holy brick
trim apex
who started the rots, wata from liv?
You can also start wata, 3 ping hold ult1, ba hold dodge blaze into ult2 as fast as possible. Then you'd do Vera one rot to stack df, switching to liv. This way you initiate your run as fast as possible and Liv gets to swap in fast.
steady otter
but wut if I need just that to trim it by a second? <:BombiCry:10295502962774590...
do it
normal sierra
will start the mald tonight, hope I won't lose my remaining 2 hair strings 
carmine reef
steady otter
will start the mald tonight, hope I won't lose my remaining 2 hair strings <:Bia...
sp delay on liv is the easiest i would say
compare to sp delay lamia / balter
u good
trim apex
sp delay things ?
i would say 0,3-0,4 sec different prob ?
about half a second every ult. Liv does 2 full ult per rot, over the course of 4 rots, it adds up. Enough time to fit in 2 full ult rots at the end of the run.
peak halo
will start the mald tonight, hope I won't lose my remaining 2 hair strings <:Bia...
Cut it first
And not need to care hair anymore
limber yoke
sp delay on liv is the easiest i would say
compare to sp delay lamia / balter
can u do it consistently is the question
zinc charm
i am gonna see that rots with 2 full liv ult, idk how to fast ult full ult on liv tho 
limber yoke
1 wrong move u brick
normal sierra
ohh, if it's easier than balter, it sounds doable without too much mald
zinc charm
wtf why is there sudden update on pgr
steady otter
can u do it consistently is the question
we all can do that if we trying
i believe global player is good player
zinc charm
ts so ahh 
steady otter
about half a second every ult. Liv does 2 full ult per rot, over the course of 4...
noted
normal sierra
wtf why is there sudden update on pgr
it's a big pile of bugfixes
wanted to read the patch notes but... hell nahh, too long, didn't care enuff lul
carmine reef
we all can do that if we trying
i believe global player is good player
dalao of hope and optimism
steady otter
dude, i saw bili2 ss player is worst
glb ss player still the best about wz & ppc things
zinc charm
it's a big pile of bugfixes
wanted to read the patch notes but... hell nahh, too...
same
zinc charm
dude, i saw bili2 ss player is worst
aint no way chinese player
zinc charm
such is life
steady otter
formal radish
Quickly dwindling
No new dalaos
Everyone upcoming quit
Nergi is just a pilot whel
crystal rune
Nergi is just a pilot whel
hushed aurora
i heard that heisen is good for liv but it’s only for light and she is also darkflor so should i buy her heisen or that new memo? is darkflow good?
carmine reef
df she runs bathlon
zinc charm
i heard that heisen is good for liv but it’s only for light and she is also dark...
get heisen for light and bathlon for df, dont bother for her sig memory is so ass
nova forum
233 [Clueless](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1043480327135432785.webp?size=4...
surely 123 is no far behind
young badge
prolly a mil or more less
hushed aurora
okay so i give her heisen and cottie or heisen and bathlon?
nova forum
carmine reef
heisen cottie light
bathlon cottie df
hushed aurora
and resonance?
zinc charm
this the the memory for df vera right
i forgot i had the weap selector up to oblivion, should i R3 my vera or R2 liv, or save it for next R1 future unit?
formal radish
this the the memory for df vera right
Googoo gaga
zinc charm
Googoo gaga
young badge
what happened to the arrow
formal radish
<:LivConfused:689882746453360665>
Donshalakephon
formal radish
what happened to the arrow
Brazil goyatheto
zinc charm
Donshalakephon
i hate that i knew whaat that word sound like
normal sierra
what happened to the arrow
just follow the arrows to find out
median shell
what happened to the arrow
Kuro is slacking again
wind hemlock
IB weather is trash, it makes a shield that needs to be detonated in order to give lightning dmg bonus
young badge
also cuz III
crystal rune
I have no idea what that means still
peak halo
what happened to the arrow
Its goes to another cod map
ashen parcel
Went from S to SSS liv tommorow ill SSS+ then move to ishmael hopefully i'll have enough for ani banner to SSS+ my other characters
peak halo
Idk what Kuro is thinking if this affects even 444 teams
333 bare minimum
wind hemlock
peak halo
Also what ib
crystal rune
Red huaxu light ignition void
peak halo
Nice even donno which i go
wind hemlock
need Ishmael on both
icy otter
Ignition ez clap surely
icy otter
El donate will carry
wind hemlock
icy otter
232 112?
zinc charm
232 113 now
carmine reef
zinc charm
i felt like i missed some ha damage on liv
icy otter
carmine reef
who cares about average when the average is a casual who's never heard of a rotation in their life
you're in meta help, hold yourself to a higher standard
carmine reef
that's copium
zinc charm
is liv mandatory with dlt
carmine reef
light yes df no
icy otter
Wait
carmine reef
well not mandatory for light either but recommended
zinc charm
df is actually no?
carmine reef
df does not need dlt at all
zinc charm
icy otter
Time to go back
zinc charm
i usually do 2 full ult with her
icy otter
Use GA
zinc charm
do i need to do 2x3 ping + hd to iniate the second rot?
carmine reef
hd is time loss
zinc charm
so just 3x3ping like usual?
carmine reef
well ideally you learn sp delay
icy otter
If ur not doing sp delay you do the hd or 2×3 dodge 3p ult1
carmine reef
but either way it's 9 orbs
icy otter
I like brain dead high score broski
The kind where ur called dalao but it's a regular Wednesday
carmine reef
you've said probably like 10 times today how much you refuse to learn sp delay
you don't have to keep saying it
icy otter
I'm practicing as we speak
carmine reef
the point has been communicated
zinc charm
this is the first time i heard sp delay like this tonight
true pivot
dalao how do i sp delay
zinc charm
🤑
carmine reef
weren't you malding light yomm
true pivot
i wasnt doing sp delay
true pivot
dont wanna
carmine reef
we got another one lads
true pivot
crystal rune
its okay hes ls princess he gets to slack
mighty tusk
wanshi not reloading in glacio like wtf
crystal rune
press r
true pivot
switching to another gun is easier than reloading
crystal rune
taishi
true pivot
glacio 2.333 scores higher than df 2.332.3 innit
carmine reef
what's glacio 2.333 score
crystal rune
somewhere between 6 and 20m
carmine reef
thanks
zinc charm
press r
buff wanshi to deal 1000000% more damage on head
genuinely felt like this is the max i can do w my invest
peak halo
Luna leap is really good
Thats true
I hope this week had enought ppl in ib for honed elite
carmine reef
europe was a mistake
peak halo
Top 7 too
crystal rune
and somehow it got the highest fluc out of every server
peak halo
I live in eu
So best for me
I can slacc
young badge
what's glacio 2.333 score
i saw 12m on sea
mighty tusk
and somehow it got the highest fluc out of every server
score at wave 39 legend in eu vs asia is around 5-10 mil higher in eu
carmine reef
i saw 12m on sea
isn't that the same as 2.332.3 df 🗿
young badge
isn't that the same as 2.332.3 df 🗿
idk about df
peak halo
Also eu ez bear zone now
true pivot
what's glacio 2.333 score
iirc duo is 11m
zinc charm
Does 4 natasha and 4 heisen works? For liffu
its her best mem set, her sig mem is a scam and so ass
buoyant hornet
@carmine reef ss0 liv swap even with r2 ishmael is barely getting any better results than ss3 r1 nana solo 💀
I initially pinned it on me not playing right and not doing sp delay, I learned sp delay, still barely better lmao
This is actually sad
crystal rune
whel
buoyant hornet
Do i swap on lightning zone
Idek Liv is so washed but you might do a quick rot on her for qte nuke at least
carmine reef
<@82360936878313472> ss0 liv swap even with r2 ishmael is barely getting any bet...
what score are you getting
i haven't done very much light cause i've been having too much fun malding df
buoyant hornet
I've seen really good solo ss3 liv scores but idk if it's better than solo sss nana
carmine reef
i'm almost up to 10m on df now
steady otter
zinc charm
does df liv rots give some free orb
carmine reef
kind of
zinc charm
i cant seem to do it the same way with light rot
buoyant hornet
what score are you getting
6.1 solo mech jesus, 6.3m swap
carmine reef
hold basic generates orbs on account of being basic
hard sparrow
its her best mem set, her sig mem is a scam and so ass
What? Are you talking about 4 nat and 4 hei?
buoyant hornet
i'm almost up to 10m on df now
Holy
carmine reef
oh if you mean df vs light it should be the same
buoyant hornet
I got 7.2m 232 glacio lol thought I'd do that zone first since we used to beg for boss glacio forever
zinc charm
What? Are you talking about 4 nat and 4 hei?
you dont ever use her sig mem, just use 4 heisen 4 cottie on light and 4 bathlon 4 cottie for df
zinc charm
oh if you mean df vs light it should be the same
hmm okay i may overpinged
buoyant hornet
hmm okay i may overpinged
It's easy to overping if you fail to sp delay and end up trying to mash 3x 3pings and accidentally chain a 4th ping
Happened to me yesterday
zinc charm
yeah for light rots i do 3x3ping only to lack 2 more orb to fill mirror orb on light stage
lemme do it slowly
buoyant hornet
yeah for light rots i do 3x3ping only to lack 2 more orb to fill mirror orb on l...
You mean before ult1 right?
zinc charm
what left after 3x3ping before ult 1
i didnt get this problem on df
Ohhh
could be because i had that free 1 orb switch in
buoyant hornet
what left after 3x3ping before ult 1
As long as you're doing sp delay right then you just ult1 after 2x3ping
Man I can't type today
buoyant hornet
i didnt do sp delay on this tho
Are you doing 2 long rots or?
buoyant hornet
[sobCri](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1221466146449002576.webp?size=48&name...
Hi bestie
crystal rune
hi
zinc charm
Are you doing 2 long rots or?
ye
crystal rune
im losing my mind
noble zinc
i saw 12m on sea
Proud of my student 
crystal rune
i one tapped a potential 25m run earlier and now i cant get back
buoyant hornet
She prolly runs out of orbs maybe
Do you do hold dodge right after swapping her in or no?
It's needed for matrix
buoyant hornet
i one tapped a potential 25m run earlier and now i cant get back
wtf whel
buoyant hornet
Proud of my student <:old_man_sus:877599787833258004>
1.2m omg dalao
noble zinc
He dosent even have high reso cub
galcio stonk yeah
buoyant hornet
He dosent even have high reso cub<:icant:1176488661399896135> galcio stonk yeah
pwowq probably getting 20m glacio and 5m darkflow with his funny invests
zinc charm
yeah its because i use lingya cub so i can do 3x3ping without dlt
doyall think i can score more with that invest
noble zinc
Wut inv this
carmine reef
we can't see if those are ss0 or ss3
buoyant hornet
yeah its because i use lingya cub so i can do 3x3ping without dlt
I mean I did it entirely without dlt or lingya but I was using sp delay althought it should only be a slight difference in speed rather than orb economy
zinc charm
we can't see if those are ss0 or ss3
ss0 all
carmine reef
can get higher
buoyant hornet
[sobCri](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1221466146449002576.webp?size=48&name...
Wow you s+ whel now?
zinc charm
should i SS3 nanami over ishmael
zinc charm
since yknow blue banner reset
bronze tulip
is Heisen better for Liv then Natasha?
buoyant hornet
doyall think i can score more with that invest
We need to see a run if it's possible for you to record
Not that we know all that much yet lol
buoyant hornet
But we can at least check if your fundamentals are proper and give pointers
SS0 Liv is really sad lol
noble zinc
is Heisen better for Liv then Natasha?
Below Sss 
seems
buoyant hornet
Also Lingya nanami 💀
zinc charm
its genuinely for liv
buoyant hornet
Never worth it
bronze tulip
Below Sss <:1owhh:1205017833348665384> seems
maaan
icy otter
8% edb fey
buoyant hornet
ehh i mean sure fair point
You don't have nanami's cub?
zinc charm
You don't have nanami's cub?
no
icy otter
I should try lingya vera for df
zinc charm
otherwise why wouldnt i use it
icy otter
buoyant hornet
If you have old spare cubs and/or norman ores you can just do the recycle trick
To get the cub for free
zinc charm
If you have old spare cubs and/or norman ores you can just do the recycle trick
eh
how
i never used tha tore
ever
icy otter
Whatever cub you have you buy their ores
I mean buy their shards
From ores
That come in norman
Then scrap 3 cubs and buy shards for ur desired cub
zinc charm
you can buy unowned cub shard?
carmine reef
btw @buoyant hornet i am absolutely doing some zaza in light now
i'm like switching between different rots every swap based on what happened in prev swap like with wanshi
zinc charm
oh you mean like scrapping 3 weap sig for 1 desired weap sig ?
buoyant hornet
eh
If you scrap any 3 dupes of base S cubs (aka signature cubs) you can buy any 1 cub with the recycle shards in the recycle shop
sour silo
Ohh
buoyant hornet
Can use old unused cubs or buy the norman shop dupes for cubs you already have while they have the 50% discount
zinc charm
i can scrap that bricked cw cub
buoyant hornet
Basically need 9m norman ores or 6m ores+old cub
sour silo
I can recycle cw cub, balter cub and ayla cub
buoyant hornet
i can scrap that bricked cw cub
Yeah if you have 6m ores you can just make any cub
with what you have
buoyant hornet
I can recycle cw cub, balter cub and ayla cub
Yeah
zinc charm
how do i buy shard
sour silo
Also hyperfraud cubs
buoyant hornet
I guess I should scrap cw cub too
sour silo
I can save frr
buoyant hornet
Never got to use it lmfaooo
I only got it from thunderbolt and she was already cooked by then
zinc charm
oh found it
steady otter
Idek Liv is so washed but you might do a quick rot on her for qte nuke at least
So swap for my weird invest right
sour silo
I could also recycle cubs from alisa below
steady otter
Liv
1 full stack ult
1 short hold dodge ult
Nanami
1 stright jump ult
1 ba ult
Feral just swap and do nothing
zinc charm
steady otter
Like that ?
buoyant hornet
So swap for my weird invest right
Needs testing for sure before we can say, but if normal swap doesn't work then you can do only 1 liv opener rot to activate qte nuke then never swap her in again
BUT ss3 Liv is good
So if you have sss amp then swap is probably better
PROBABLY
steady otter
Noted thx
buoyant hornet
Liv
1 full stack ult
1 short hold dodge ult
Nanami
1 stright jump ult
1 ba ult
F...
Idr exactly how ss3 liv rotates in lightning tbh
icy otter
<:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Bro saving for the apocalypse
buoyant hornet
<:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
icy otter
Except the apocalypse came
buoyant hornet
I had to count the digits LMFAOOOO
icy otter
And now cubs are limited
trim apex
@noble zinc w43 kill, w44 didn't spawn, probably max for me
icy otter
buoyant hornet
Bro can make like 10 cubs with that
zinc charm
becaues i genuinely dont know you can do this so i was like "wtf do i need these ores for"
carmine reef
Idr exactly how ss3 liv rotates in lightning tbh
i heard whispers of full fast but i didn't like how it lined up so i'm doing some zaza now
buoyant hornet
becaues i genuinely dont know you can do this so i was like "wtf do i need these...
Usually spenders just use those to ss their cubs for the extra passive
carmine reef
so here are my findings
buoyant hornet
But f2p do either that or dupe cubs for recycle
zinc charm
Usually spenders just use those to ss their cubs for the extra passive
eh SS cub is more of luxury i feel
steady otter
My liv is ss6
I can use my whel shop to choose rosetta (10 general shard) + already have 20 general shard on whel shop
Is this worth ?
buoyant hornet
i heard whispers of full fast but i didn't like how it lined up so i'm doing som...
Zex is cooking
icy otter
What sauce is he gonna drop
zinc charm
so i scrapped 3 cub now, where do i go to exchange these
buoyant hornet
My liv is ss6
I can use my whel shop to choose rosetta (10 general shard) + alre...
I mean she's already ss6 so I guess might as well finish the sss? Up to you
buoyant hornet
eh SS cub is more of luxury i feel
yeah
steady otter
70/90/90
Man, worst fate pull ever
zinc charm
had i known about this, i will not spend 2.5k to get the cub through gacha for liv 😭
carmine reef
if you sp delay up to ult1 and then swap off you can do instant ult1 next swap (inspired by nergi df)
then on that next swap, 2 full sp delayed long rots fit perfectly into swap cd
alternatively, you can also do 1 full 2 fast, which also fit if sp delayed, but hard to sp delay from fast, so can also shift the full to the end to ensure sp delayed energy on swap out
steady otter
1 man down
buoyant hornet
so i scrapped 3 cub now, where do i go to exchange these
Somewhere in the "Recycle shop" tab, S-rank shard of support
steady otter
Ahahaha
sour silo
No more synch, my luck wasted on both bianca and vero
zinc charm
oh yeah i see, thank you
trim apex
for 2.3 Liv with 3 Nana you do full ult > fast ult on liv then fast ult > 5 ba ult on nana, then switch to ish/21 to stall
sour silo
Bianca do be 40/50/30/70
carmine reef
so i'm basically doing either 2 full rots (if instant ult1 on swap), or 1 full 2 fast
steady otter
Pog
buoyant hornet
had i known about this, i will not spend 2.5k to get the cub through gacha for l...
It's ok you'd need to pull some cubs anyway, norman shop shards allow only 60 shards (2 dupes) per cub before the 50% discount goes away
sour silo
Also double sig on bianca at max pity
buoyant hornet
So the more S cubs you have in your inventory the more 50% discount dupes you can get
Deadass rn you can literally get like 3-4 cubs minimum LMAO
steady otter
for 2.3 Liv with 3 Nana you do full ult > fast ult on liv then fast ult > 5 ba u...
Noted
buoyant hornet
Without spending a single ticket/bc
zinc charm
It's ok you'd need to pull some cubs anyway, norman shop shards allow only 60 sh...
so i need to pull first to get their respective discount on norman?
sour silo
Ong still have it
carmine reef
windbellao has fast fingers though
zinc charm
Without spending a single ticket/bc
truly a blessing knowledge
steady otter
Nope, im old
carmine reef
with sp delay 1 fast 1 full is too slow
zinc charm
isnt nanami cub one of the best one
steady otter
carmine reef
nanami cub is pretty good
trim apex
Noted
this no dlt rot is according to bilibili dalao tho, more optimal rot still need cooking (probably require dlt)
carmine reef
and nanami is pretty good
analog coral
is liv rot still being cooked?
carmine reef
you could say so
buoyant hornet
so i'm basically doing either 2 full rots (if instant ult1 on swap), or 1 full 2...
Did you sss your nanami or something because you should easily be able to fit 2 long rots before nanami swap otherwise
noble zinc
Bro saving for the apocalypse
me 2
buoyant hornet
Even at ss0 I was doing 2 long and only sp delaying the first ult in each swap
carmine reef
Did you sss your nanami or something because you should easily be able to fit 2 ...
i'm swapping from ish
buoyant hornet
And was ult2ing right as nanami swap is back online
trim apex
<:worrybackpat:901461885562544158>
I retain anyway so we good but sad to see no 18mil for me
keen meteor
day 1 of playing DF, the lightning strikes and alpha is more cringe than the SP delay itself
noble zinc
I retain anyway so we good<:lulw:842384743269924925> but sad to see no 18mil for...
Not mats for hyper?
buoyant hornet
i'm swapping from ish
I actually got better scores doing 2 long rots on nanami as well LMAO
carmine reef
ss liv can't do 12s double long without the zaza
steady otter
We need more hypertune
buoyant hornet
Allows abusing qte nuke more as well
zinc charm
and nanami is pretty good
absolute cinema
carmine reef
Allows abusing qte nuke more as well
counter point
buoyant hornet
It does overlap with Liv's swap time though
trim apex
Not mats for hyper?
no mats for Liv 4 bath, Vera 4 guin, and wata 2pc DV
carmine reef
ish swap is more timestop which is more super qte
sour silo
We need more hypertune
My dorm coins crying rn
steady otter
Same here
buoyant hornet
ish swap is more timestop which is more super qte
does liv's qte gauge recharge during timestop?
carmine reef
oh nah it doesn't i hallucinated it
buoyant hornet
day 1 of playing DF, the lightning strikes and alpha is more cringe than the SP ...
fk whel pilot my acc dalao
noble zinc
Me still stuck on light df
Didn't even played mine
carmine reef
could still be useful for stalling eins cd though
buoyant hornet
<a:SCaablankysleep:684958847265145036> me 2
Buy me cubs pookie
carmine reef
that one we do know ticks during timestop
keen meteor
fk whel pilot my acc dalao
DONE
buoyant hornet
(I don't need any)
trim apex
day 1 of playing DF, the lightning strikes and alpha is more cringe than the SP ...
alpha sword waves delaying vera's core making dodge canceling pointless
keen meteor
alpha sword waves delaying vera's core making dodge canceling pointless<:EvilLiv...
she has ruined two runs where she did her own tlc on vera and liv
I was going +8
sour silo
alpha sword waves delaying vera's core making dodge canceling pointless<:EvilLiv...
dodge cancelling alpha sword waves
icy otter
The only enemy that has cooked me
Is roseblade
Vera ult 1 r d r
Get hit
Run dead
sour silo
The only enemy that has cooked me
Bro is lucky against vassago and alpha
trim apex
<:EvilLiv:976915741888626738> dodge cancelling alpha sword waves
hit stuns you into tomorrow
trim apex
she has ruined two runs where she did her own tlc on vera and liv
I was going +8...
yeah, that and the bear suplexing you
icy otter
Liv brutal seggs power throughs alpha
crystal rune
i love it when alpha just hit lags you through tlc
icy otter
Vassago has only trolled me in burn
Because el donate takes longer on later waves
Op chr
trim apex
what can I say, Alpha is Vergil's Daughter an Accendant after all
buoyant hornet
that one we do know ticks during timestop
Nami can just go 1 rot with 3-4 basics into one normal full rot to avoid overlap with liv swap but I found that if you ping Liv's qte color right after swapping nana in, her qte recharges by the time you do the last ult2 (in case of 2 full nanami basic rots)
icy otter
Empyrea 2025 appearance
zinc charm
wth my minds came up with liv empyrea
buoyant hornet
is vera cub good
It's cute but not the highest prio cub out there
keen meteor
yeah, that and the bear suplexing you
that happened too, he tackled vera
sour silo
Vassago has only trolled me in burn
My burn runs didnt encounter vassago dipping, only alpha doing matrixes, meanwhile my df runs do be vassago dipping and alpha being a punching dummy
buoyant hornet
wth my minds came up with liv empyrea <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Both broken amplifiers during their generation
zinc charm
i still remember when liv empy being called flashbang liv
sour silo
Kuso games hate me somehow
icy otter
My burn runs didnt encounter vassago dipping, only alpha doing matrixes, meanwhi...
I mean my vera core might have been delayed by alpha
buoyant hornet
i still remember when liv empy being called flashbang liv
wow I feel old
zinc charm
because genuinely i tend to play at night and her ult just goes
pallid cypress
should i give liv R2?
trim apex
that happened too, he tackled vera
if you didn't tell me this is pgr I would've thought I'm playing WWE sim
peak halo
should i give liv R2?
R3
keen meteor
if you didn't tell me this is pgr I would've thought I'm playing WWE sim<:lulw:8...
bro fr
icy otter
Oh right how does vera special qte work
buoyant hornet
should i give liv R2?
Low priority r2 if you have amps that need resos more then focus on them first
icy otter
I mean
buoyant hornet
RELEVANT AMPS
buoyant hornet
Don't try to reso feral or kaleido lol
sour silo
Liv special qte
Tlc on nuke
pallid cypress
Low priority r2 if you have amps that need resos more then focus on them first
i have lilith, but i have like 2 weapons and a USB
zinc charm
Liv special qte
wait for special bar to fill on her qte
sour silo
It sucks that it deals "lightning" with max df stacks
zinc charm
it automically changed her qte to diffo ne once filled
pallid cypress
well a weapon and USB
icy otter
Yes but other than tlc what does it do
sour silo
Mid mechanic
carmine reef
that's how all qte nukes are
icy otter
Tlc has only bricked me
carmine reef
no qte nuke gets converted
sour silo
Yes but other than tlc what does it do
Damage
zinc charm
higher damage and give free ob upon her switch in
carmine reef
which is balanced cause they already have higher multipliers
pallid cypress
so can i do R2 liv and R2 lilith?
buoyant hornet
R2 Alisa for glacio
Eh she's at risk of replacement any patch now
sour silo
I expected a qte nuke like vergil and dante tho
buoyant hornet
so can i do R2 liv and R2 lilith?
What's your vera resos
sour silo
Wasted potential with the new qte gimmick
icy otter
Bro the brothers qte
sour silo
On affixes
carmine reef
their qte nukes only work because their base element is same as affix
icy otter
Is so nice
icy otter
What is this fancy shi
trim apex
Liv special qte
It charges when Liv is off-field for over 15 seconds, and once it's fully charged the next qte deals massive dmg (900% > 1200% I think, buffed by 2s3 passive even more). For 3s liv if you full stack ult, the gauge is immediately fully charged when you swap off of her.
buoyant hornet
their qte nukes only work because their base element is same as affix
They're saving affix qte nukes for next gen LOL
Gotta leave some room for powercreep
carmine reef
pallid cypress
@buoyant hornet so go ahead for R2 liv?
sour silo
Excited for beta tomorrow
mossy sentinel
who else do i need to ss3? I got pianissimo ss3, pyroath ss3, and star trail ss3
zinc charm
Tlc during wata blaze and I see my orbs disappear
whats ss3 prio
oop doesnt mean to reply
sour silo
Orbital strike with liv's special nuke
buoyant hornet
she is on R3
If your lilith is r2/r3 then you can r2 liv if you REALLY want to but objective meta-wise, it's better to save that reso for a later unit
If teddy turns out to be amp for example
pallid cypress
If your lilith is r2/r3 then you can r2 liv if you REALLY want to but objective ...
well i have a weapon and a USB
trim apex
It sucks that it deals "lightning" with max df stacks
affix is a bit different, plus affix dmg ratios are sometimes 1.5 to 2 times higher than elemental dmg ratio, which makes up for no qte nuke. And then there's Dante/Vergil with their fire/phy qte nuke that still works somewhat in their respective affix zones
pallid cypress
the weapon fodder would go to liv and the USB to lilith
sour silo
affix is a bit different, plus affix dmg ratios are sometimes 1.5 to 2 times hig...
Exactly bru
Expectation vs reality
trim apex
Exactly bru
DF liv already be hitting 25mil top score I think it's op enough
pallid cypress
@buoyant hornet already R2'd lilith with the USB
going to use the weapon on R2 liv
sour silo
DF liv already be hitting 25mil top score I think it's op enough<:lulw:842384743...
Fair
11m on df at 2.132.1 bugging me fr
buoyant hornet
the weapon fodder would go to liv and the USB to lilith
Like I said if you're making a suboptimal meta choice and just like Liv then you can do that but resos are still rare and slow to get so it's objectively better to hold on to ones you have for future amps
Amps have a valuable r2 no matter how they work
pallid cypress
Like I said if you're making a suboptimal meta choice and just like Liv then you...
trying to use windbell guide and it needs liv at R2
buoyant hornet
Then you have ones like vera who want r3 ideally
pallid cypress
pallid cypress
Then you have ones like vera who want r3 ideally
everyone else my vera is R3 already
buoyant hornet
everyone else my vera is R3 already
I'm using her as an example there's still more amps coming
We'll still get lightning and ice
pallid cypress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdvE6MOIlWg
@buoyant hornet funny thing my nanaknight is R2
can R2 nanaknight compensate for R1 liv?
buoyant hornet
<@640508883160268850> funny thing my nanaknight is R2
Hmm r2 can use resonant echo in ppc
pallid cypress
Hmm r2 can use resonant echo in ppc
yeah, my nanaknight is on echo and DD
buoyant hornet
can R2 nanaknight compensate for R1 liv?
Depending on the run yeah
pallid cypress
glorious after glow is just there for extra damage right?
which can be compensated with more debuffs?
buoyant hornet
Fk they rolled projection with observer and both of them want ishmael on my acc
Oh well Lilith can work without ish on knight and chaos at least
Will have to do whatever on knight overseer lol
buoyant hornet
which can be compensated with more debuffs?
Pretty much, although nanami doesn't necessarily have a major issue with tank class uptime since her field refreshes it very quickly
Albeit not instant refresh which can make a difference in some runs
You might end up needing to just do a different run from windbell
zinc charm
Fk they rolled projection with observer and both of them want ishmael on my acc
easies solution is to swipe
buoyant hornet
You can use his kill times as a reference but try other strats that suit your own invest better
zinc charm
swipe swipe all the wayyy
buoyant hornet
easies solution is to swipe <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Even if I was a spender I wouldn't be spending a dime on feral at this point LMAO