this guy also doing this without
#📨・meta-help
winter wind
SP delay
I haven't seen anyone post one so I've just been doomscrolling warzone videos
white oriole
crystal rune
Add mine to the collection
winter wind
what invest is yours
fading kestrel
Guess I'm back grinding WWM
hows the game so far
winter wind
fading kestrel
fortnite
formal radish
VR Furry RP
formal radish
Battlefield
bitter plank
Where is THE meta teams on every element image again
vital nova
why does df liv use 4bathlon and not the new df memo set?
lyric lintel
is nanami’s or vera’s ss3 better to get
peak halo
is nanami’s or vera’s ss3 better to get
Nanami
Vera ss or sss type
crystal rune
Vera ss or sss3
plain oyster
peak halo
Vera ss or sss3
So 2 copie on anniv then
crystal rune
Her sss3 so good free 50% edb
peak halo
Sad how im just a doplhin
Reads sss+ too
Maybie solon fav was gera not boncka
bitter plank
Thanks
Who’s ss3 is worth getting from blue ticket? ss3’s I have are selena, dianca, and nanami, or should I save for future units?
steep basin
how big of an improvement is liv's ss3?
vital nova
if ss0 lightning liv uses 4cot 4 heisen with core passives, should nanami still use 4herschell 4heisen with sig reso?
slender spoke
for livs 3 ult rotation is the 1st and 3rd ult a double hold dodge rotation and the 2nd rotation a ping white orbs rotation?
stray siren
Vera ss or sss3
Vera SS0 feels horrible compared to SS3 tbh
steady otter
atleast ss0 vera better than midliv & midanca
stray siren
Yeah, No SSS no rights
steady otter
stray siren
But I already saw that playing SSS characters requires hands, something I don't have
stray siren
how big of an improvement is liv's ss3?
QTE Nuke iirc
steady otter
But I already saw that playing SSS characters requires hands, something I don't ...
iam playing with feet
stray siren
if ss0 lightning liv uses 4cot 4 heisen with core passives, should nanami still ...
Nanami run Class even if she is SS3
stray siren
iam playing with feet
Post gameplay 
steady otter
oh no feet reveal
vital nova
Nanami run Class even if she is SS3
damn she on class skill now 
steep basin
QTE Nuke iirc
so not worth or is that qte that crazy
stray siren
Is what yommy the dalaomommy said
carmine reef
Liv ss3 is
Qte nuke
Free 2 flying blades on base form hold dodge and free 2 white orbs ib ukt form
Ult form hold dodge and hold basic dmg
stray siren
so not worth or is that qte that crazy
The QTE nuke is now meta, you can see it with Lucia SS3, good use of QTEs nuke is a good wave progression
steep basin
The QTE nuke is now meta, you can see it with Lucia SS3, good use of QTEs nuke i...
yeah i notice with Dante too
alright thanks i might pull her ss3 then
stray siren
And what Zex said.
It seems that Solo Liv SS3 has the same score as Solo Nanami SSS, so SS3 is broken
zealous oxide
I wonder how they did it? I'm just checking WZ (hero, player name is Nuu) leaderboard and this caught my attention, both Ish and Nanami are SS0
peak pumice
I wonder how they did it? I'm just checking WZ (hero, player name is Nuu) leader...
SSS Liv will do it
zealous oxide
Their score is actually the highest among the SSS users
Most are just stuck with 9.2m 9.7m
stray siren
I wonder how they did it? I'm just checking WZ (hero, player name is Nuu) leader...
Seems fine, I mean, there is another player with SSS+ Liv SS0 nana SS0 21 with 14 Million points
zealous oxide
11m is like wave 43 or 44, probably it's 2x Liv nuke QTE per nanami rotation
carmine reef
That doesn't look like ss0 nanami bp
zealous oxide
R3
stray siren
SS0 3 r
zealous oxide
11m is like wave 43 or 44, probably it's 2x Liv nuke QTE per nanami rotation
This is my only guess or just less polar bear spawn (≧▽≦)
zealous oxide
Hero
stray siren
Nah, should be 2R. I think Nanami R3 is 7500BP > Or am I confusing her with another character
crystal rune
Mb
zealous oxide
I'm just wondering what magic they did
stray siren
Maybe SSS+olo
zealous oxide
And using Natasha set
carmine reef
well my nanami ss3 r2 and does not hit 7.5
actually
my nanami is ss7 now because of standard banner
and does not hit 7.5
crystal rune
Whel
zealous oxide
stray siren
7333, so R3 is below 7500
zealous oxide
Well I'm more amazed about their score cuz we have the same investment well... My Nanami is only R2
But I don't think R3 is that significant unless it is
stray siren
Solo Liv is broken
carmine reef
ezra is skill issued and this has always been known
icy otter
carmine reef
i just remember yomm was doing ss0 liv
crystal rune
Yomm 232.3 223 or smth
stray siren
4 taps white and bold basic whole run?
carmine reef
i dunno i don't keep track of other people much
but i can say for sure that 8m ss3 is skill issued
icy otter
Ok u heard it first here 232 111 cap is 8.5m
zealous oxide
https://youtu.be/ar9vQQYZWFo?si=BdK0Ktm5YNRzXZac
Thank you I'll check later (人 •͈ᴗ•͈)
icy otter
🔥
icy otter
Ok u heard it first here 232 111 cap is 8.5m
Which seems terribly ass so it's probs not
I just don't know what I'm supposed to optimize on liv
What things to cancel
carmine reef
sp delays
hazy sandal
Speed delays?
icy otter
I need a vid for the delays man
crystal rune
Superpower delay
carmine reef
carmine reef
setsu trolling 
crystal rune
Seggsu always trolling
carmine reef
what
crystal rune
icy otter
Gimme one sec
crystal rune
Most skilled issued man I know
crystal rune
Except that one time he got 10m in burn with 2.332 111
icy otter
It's the same stage
crystal rune
2.332
carmine reef
less impressive by the second
icy otter
2 dante doesn't exist
carmine reef
icy otter
Basically ss0
crystal rune
Yomm for like a day or two
icy otter
Same stage smhsmh
pine slate
I'm ss0 Dante
crystal rune
Df below sss is bricked
carmine reef
well i'm 2.332 112 df and nearing 10m
crystal rune
icy otter
Ss3 diff
carmine reef
idk that seems pretty good to me
it's the highest score on my account so i wouldn't call it bricked
crystal rune
icy otter
Any zone behind burn is trash
Sorry I don't make the rules
Itz kuro rules
Ignore 25m
crystal rune
Me when df scores higher
icy otter
IGNORE THE 25M
crystal rune
Dunno
icy otter
Zex are you doing single liv ult
icy otter
I'm doing 112
crystal rune
Wth
carmine reef
why
icy otter
On who's end
icy otter
Ok can one of u record the swap line up on double liv ult
crystal rune
Sexous can
icy otter
icy otter
I mean instead of 3 vera ults I just fit 1 wata ult in
So 1 wata 2 vera
Are you guys doing 2 liv 1 wata 2 vera
crystal rune
Hervor user
carmine reef
k yeah 14s
stray siren
I'm ss0 Dante
Hi SS0 Dante, I am queso
peak pumice
why are you doing 3 vera rots
I do 3
opaque ridge
I do 5
crystal rune
I do 3 too
carmine reef
i don't mean this in a rude way but i didn't ask
crystal rune
Cool
carmine reef
for him he should not be doing 3 rots
stray siren
Is 5 rot okay?
10 rot in amp time or brick
viscid harness
hi, just returned back to the game
is this still worth it?
carmine reef
if you mean rainbow specifically? no
peak pumice
Whose cub is that?
crystal rune
Ayla
opaque ridge
10 rot in amp time or brick
pine slate
Hi SS0 Dante, I am queso
crystal rune
Kiwitted
slender scarab
Why is my best df score is on hervor Vera
hazy sandal
Nani
crystal rune
Skin tissue
slender scarab
That's what I did on hervorless run. I somehow end up with wata on the worm mob spawn and lose a lot of time to it burrowing on the ground.
I'm probably rotating wrong at some point
prime dome
daring abyss
whats current voucher prio?
unborn hound
whats current voucher prio?
lilith wanshi
daring abyss
so watanabe/luna didn't change anything then?
unborn hound
well they come after those 2
daring abyss
lilith SSS 1st prio after both ss3?
chilly trail
My first 10m
unborn hound
dreamy pelican
well they come after those 2
id argue the first place prio is wata
based off of sheer value alone
but sss lillick also benefits a lot and her sss passive is always good
vague nebula
https://tenor.com/view/cat-munching-cat-kitty-munching-cat-eating-cat-close-up-g...
gyat fish eye lens so good
sour silo
Not malding 232 113 in legend🚮
chilly trail
Wil you be there when I hit 25
Will always be there
daring abyss
but sss lillick also benefits a lot and her sss passive is always good
guess I'll give it some thought at the end of the month, my lilith still has all her ppc skulls so I can actually get her to sss meanwhile wanshi would have to wait a while
clever gulch
is dlt really important on geiravor ? I've got epitath, pyroath and geiravtor with sig and SS, gave geiravor double reso, hesitating between give axial ray + glorious afterglow or replacing one of these by dlt ( using 4 dv 4 alphonse on epitath, 4 cottie 4 heira on geiravor, 4 hera 4 shakespear for pyroath )
could just give her a third reso but im thinking i should spread my investment more
clever gulch
wym ?
carmine reef
uh
you're doing vera wrong
i have no idea what's going on with your setup but vera should already have dlt as first prio for reso, she should be on 4 shakes 4 cottie
i don't think i've ever seen someone running 4 hervor 4 cottie vera and 4 hera 4 shakes lucia lmao
absolute doozy
carmine reef
the score is low 🗿
crystal rune
Will always be there<:QuDio:1433251738416185444>
Thanks babi
carmine reef
idk who recommended you this setup but it surely wasn't in here cause that aint right
carmine reef
crazy
fading kestrel
extremely common case of firefly misinfo
carmine reef
honestly the no cottie lucia part is pretty interesting, but it's a really bad place to use it in this team lmao
he's spending like 6 seconds on wata doing no damage
per cycle
and vera ult2 is falling out of amp buff but that's just poor execution
dreamy pelican
is dlt really important on geiravor ? I've got epitath, pyroath and geiravtor wi...
first, amazing cytus2 reference
secondly, its really important for her to have dlt as she is the main damage dealer in the fire team
without dlt, her rotations are impossible to perform effectively
carmine reef
it's really weird to omit dlt for hervor which lowers vera's damage at the tradeoff of boosting lucia's...and then also hamstring lucia's damage in favor of wata's
not really coherent as a team concept
tiny glacier
I've been running 2 cottie 2 eins on pyroath these days asw
carmine reef
I've been running 2 cottie 2 eins on pyroath these days asw
naw that guy's not running any cottie at all
tiny glacier
4 shakes is insanity
carmine reef
for sss wata it might be a cool thing to try
but it's definitely not the right move for the team in that video
tiny glacier
Im on SSS wata but I've still scored better on cottie eins than shakes on pyroath
carmine reef
you tried 4 shakes?
tiny glacier
might be poor execution tho
tiny glacier
you tried 4 shakes?
yea a while back i tried a ton of stuff to try and boost my score
carmine reef
the 4 shakes should be theoretically better IF you're only doing 1e, but
only doing 1e is already a little iffy rn, and especially bad with that ss wata team
clever gulch
so what should i actually do ( havent resonated a lot of stuff yet so i can swap stuff )
carmine reef
4 shakes 4 cottie vera
4 hera lucia and then either 2 cot 2 eins or 4 cot depending on zone and on lucia rank (ss0 lucia should prolly be eins holder)
crystal rune
Einsteinium
carmine reef
your lucia needs to be multirotting with that bum ass ss wata cause
limber yoke
copestena
carmine reef
she needs to be covering more field time instead of him
and your vera needs to have shakes and dlt so she can actually do damage
hervor is dead weight
carmine reef
yeah that's fine
tiny glacier
on the note of vera, I have 3 reso on her and I've been running dlt SAR and incandescence, but I was wondering if people have been seeing better results on GS over Incandescence
tiny glacier
I see, guess ive been nerfing myself
i guess that makes sens tho since it inly increases the weapon attack rather than the target
tiny glacier
dlt SAr and GS it is i guess
clever gulch
4 shakes 4 cottie vera
4 hera lucia and then either 2 cot 2 eins or 4 cot depen...
so not even using vera's signature memory ? damn
feels weird
wata 4 dv 4 alphonse is correct btw ?
tiny glacier
yea
limber yoke
so not even using vera's signature memory ? damn
yes its a very bad memory
same as liv
tiny glacier
more duration when youre trying to save time is funny tbh
clever gulch
welp time to scrap the memorys ig
zealous oxide
I wonder how they did it? I'm just checking WZ (hero, player name is Nuu) leader...
Solo Liv indeed, the last sequence is fast ultimate to squeeze the remaining 2s and that would be wave 47. Cuz this wave 46 I wasn't able to cast the ultimate but the enemy HP was .4x HP left or about 40% left, fast ult should be enough for it (✷‿✷)
fresh plover
For lightning ppc, liv or nanami main dps?
clever gulch
4 shakes 4 cottie vera
4 hera lucia and then either 2 cot 2 eins or 4 cot depen...
so for lucia, 4 hera 2 eins 2 cottie or 4 cottie 4 hera ? what's the diff ?
sour silo
And what Zex said.
It seems that Solo Liv SS3 has the same score as Solo Nanami...
I notice it too when i do solo liv ss3 vs nana sss
carmine reef
so for lucia, 4 hera 2 eins 2 cottie or 4 cottie 4 hera ? what's the diff ?
2 eins 2 cottie less personal dmg for lucia but helps with a debuff for vera
personally i don't like using eins because i have ss3 lucia so i'm prioritizing double qte nuke, and the first nuke is usually to clear the current wave which means eins gets wasted
if you have ss0 lucia this isn't a concern so probably good to put eins on
young badge
cold walrus
does echo provide 10% glacio buff or 30%
carmine reef
should be 30% i think?
wait weapon is only phys
i was gonna say should be way higher but let me actually go verify
cold walrus
i can't find anything in leap regarding base glacio bonus
carmine reef
well base is converting from base phys bonus which is rank dependent
cold walrus
base phys is 10%, sig adds 10%, ss0 leap gives 5% and sss0 gives another 5%
cold walrus
well base is converting from base phys bonus which is rank dependent
so it should be 30% for sss
not bad actually. i'd like to test echo vs new ice amp in glacio
cold walrus
it would be funny if ice amp powercreeps echo in her affix
cold walrus
are we including amp buff
amp buff converts by default, doesn't it?
mighty tusk
it would be funny if ice amp powercreeps echo in her affix
new ice amp having 60% glacio dmg bonus
carmine reef
well if you include amp buff it's higher than 30%
qte buff is separate from amp buff
so it would be like 50%
also alisa does more than just her basic ele dmg buff for glacio
cold walrus
new ice amp having 60% glacio dmg bonus<:LivWow:706377042220023828>
i think ice amp won't have glacio affix
carmine reef
she also increases ice spikes damage and her qte refreshes the glacio timer
so i think she's actually somewhat creep proof
from a generic ice amp, that is
cold walrus
she also increases ice spikes damage and her qte refreshes the glacio timer
not really if you do wanshi-selena-alisa rot. for me glacio timer isn't an issue, and ice spikes dmg isn't big enough
carmine reef
it still applies
mighty tusk
not really if you do wanshi-selena-alisa rot. for me glacio timer isn't an issue...
also selena not being able to double rotate is an issue
carmine reef
other than the first swap
but for second swap onward you'd still be getting ice spikes dmg buff
cold walrus
also selena not being able to double rotate is an issue<:LunaCry:842385611654692...
it's ok. her teammates suck
old dune
question regarding darkflow, SS3 liv, SSS3 Wata, SS Vera, who ults once and who ults twice?
carmine reef
liv and vera both do 2 ults
cold walrus
well, i think it is better to wait for ice amp release. current dialogue is speculation, but we'll see the situation clearer when they'll introduce an ice amp. i still think echo is replaceable, especially if you'll have sss ice amp
carmine reef
wata 1
trim apex
does echo provide 10% glacio buff or 30%
Found the exact description on leap skill 3, but turns out they didn’t even used the correct skill name but yes tl:dr activating her glacio rot will convert her buffs (amp and core) to ice dmg
cold walrus
Found the exact description on leap skill 3, but turns out they didn’t even used...
30% glacio buff is huge. even gen3 amps provide only 20% on sss rank
trim apex
Leap skill 3 says the core passive buff will be converted to ice dmg buff, but skill 1/2 adds 5% to glacio dmg instead
Idk how those are converted
carmine reef
gen3 amp got 40% amp buff though 
trim apex
Or whether this is a wording mistake
carmine reef
it's not a mistake
old dune
How is the damage of each character in the fire team at equal invest rn?
cold walrus
gen3 amp got 40% amp buff though <a:pepe_drinking:1342091841775992832>
i mean affix buff. lilith vero and vera give only 20% buff to their affixes
carmine reef
i mean affix buff. lilith vero and vera give only 20% buff to their affixes
amp buff gets converted
cold walrus
it is still 20/20%
carmine reef
you said sss amp
cold walrus
is 40% base element buff converted in affix buff? i don't remember exactly how it works, but it should be 40% element and 20% affix buffs
trim apex
Phy Amp core passive skill buffs for Vero, for example, gets converted to fire dmg buff instead when her igni rot is activated, but her evolution passive gives her ignition buffs instead
I believe it’s only the 20% ignition dmg buff from her evo passive that stacks with Vera’s fire dmg buffs
carmine reef
gen3 sss amp is 40% amp buff and 40% qte buff
wait i forgor no doubling
anyway base element on amp buff is converted
to corresponding base element
modern amps are consistent in base kit converting to affix's base element, and then further rankups converting to affix element directly
i think they did this in lilith beta because she was powercreeping feral way too hard
trim apex
Core passive buff is 20% + 10 + 10 from evo. Amp class skill buff is 20% atk and 20% elemental dmg
Only the +10% +10% from evo is ignition dmg buff, the rest of the elemental buffs are fire for Vero in her ignition rot for example
Elemental buffs will contribute to affix dmg, but not vice versa. I think Kuro did this to prevent affix amps from being viable in elemental teams. Buffs from evo passives are affix specific
Imagine shows buffs from Lilith in plasma rot. Amp skill buffs is atk and elemental. Then there’s elemental buff from core passive. The third is plasma affix buff from evo passives
So the first 2 buffs will actually benefit lightning dmg characters, but the third won’t
hallow crag
i should pick nanami or ismael ?
trim apex
i should pick nanami or ismael ?
That depends. I assume you don’t have either?
hallow crag
That depends. I assume you don’t have either?
yes am new
rocky wedge
How significant is Livs cub?
trim apex
yes am new
Have you take a look at thunderbolt research? There’s a S rank selector for Nanami there
hallow crag
Have you take a look at thunderbolt research? There’s a S rank selector for Nana...
oh it use bc
trim apex
How significant is Livs cub?
sturdy nimbus
how does nanami rot change from ss to sss?
trim apex
oh it use bc
It’s there permanently, so you can work up to it. I’d recommend getting Nanami through thunderbolt, so you can get Ishmael through basic rnd selector if you’d like
rocky wedge
Ah so it's kinda meh for SS?
carmine reef
huh
icy otter
How do you guys have time for 2 vera and 2 liv ults before wata swap cd is up
No shot ur not leaking swap cd
trim apex
Ah so it's kinda meh for SS?
Increases ult2 base dmg, so yeah, kinda meh for 2S Liv
carmine reef
who cares about lining up perfectly with wata
carmine reef
the point is that you were doing 1 rot, which does not line up at all
no it absolutely does not
icy otter
Whar
rocky wedge
Though should have decent impact since there isn't a good A light cub Dx Bull too good
icy otter
Ok zex lao I need to see the actual speed of 112 so I know where I'm slow
Like legit
Just a 20s vid
carmine reef
i'm not gonna show you 112 because that's not correct lol
why would i show you how to do your wrong rotation
icy otter
Just to see where it's messing up
carmine reef
the rotation itself is messed up
icy otter
So you're saying
carmine reef
1 liv rot takes like 7 seconds
carmine reef
is wrong
icy otter
Means vera is still on swap cd
carmine reef
yes
icy otter
peak halo
1stong 1 fast ult with liv
And i had 2s for wata
icy otter
I was still prioritizing not leaking cd to potentially get extra rots
carmine reef
don't be doing fast ult yall
icy otter
trim apex
How do you guys have time for 2 vera and 2 liv ults before wata swap cd is up
As long as you wata+vera rots fit within Liv’s swap cooldown you’ll be fine. Additionally, you’ll have to optimize your Liv rot to be faster, via dodge canceling or sp delay
carmine reef
yeah just do 2 full ults in df
icy otter
As long as you wata+vera rots fit within Liv’s swap cooldown you’ll be fine. Add...
Dodging where on liv
Blue?
trim apex
Dodging where on liv
If you don’t do sp delay, between your first ult2 and your second ult1. 2x3ping dodge 3ping ult1
peak halo
yeah just do 2 full ults in df
Okay thats woulbe better result than wata fast rot
carmine reef
Okay thats woulbe better result than wata fast rot
yeah well you are sss all so you won't swap to wata at all
trim apex
If you do so delay then no need to dodge canceling, just 2x3ping ult1
crystal rune
well
carmine reef
liv 2 rots vera 3 rots for you
cold walrus
333 can swap wata
why 333 specifically?
trim apex
333 can swap wata
That’s with sp delay 
crystal rune
why 333 specifically?
because vera can 3 rot
icy otter
Didn't think of 9 orbs to get ult 1
carmine reef
that still requires fast ult doesn't it
crystal rune
444 can also
cold walrus
because vera can 3 rot
oh
crystal rune
<:hmm:820328194279735346> that still requires fast ult doesn't it
yea its more like 2 blazes ult and dips xdd
carmine reef
even sss double long ult shouldn't have time for wata swap
carmine reef
after the 2nd red
cold walrus
do you use wata rot in df with 444
crystal rune
yes
cold walrus
isn't his dmg trash
trim apex
When do you guys start holding vera basic
After 2 red ping… 1 red ping for the first rot only if your Vera is at 3S
crystal rune
cuz with liv's sp delay theres still a bit of downtime
carmine reef
gumball said sss long rot takes like 6s
there shouldn't be any downtime if you're doing double long
trim apex
cuz with liv's sp delay theres still a bit of downtime
It’s kinda advanced rot, and if you are not fast with wata its kinda 🧱
carmine reef
if long rot fast rot then it makes sense
which at the least would be better for sss than ss, but i still don't know if that's actually better than double long
crystal rune
dis after 2nd liv ult2, its enough to cram a wata ult2
carmine reef
carmine reef
3p ult2 2x3p
icy otter
Oh 3p before ult 2
carmine reef
that is the sp delay yes
icy otter
I kinda just muscle memoried getting ult 2 out asap as the third stack rolls in
But also I wasn't doing the second ult so
Let's see
frail smelt
Which one to SS3? (Member Target S rank) my current SS3 are Qu, Luna, Lilith, Watanabe, and Nanami
icy otter
Oh and
carmine reef
i think it would be easier if you said who you didn't have ss3 already lol
carmine reef
vera double rot is like 9s
peak halo
dis after 2nd liv ult2, its enough to cram a wata ult2
2 long
carmine reef
as long as it fits within amp buff you're good
carmine reef
you asked about vera
icy otter
Oh those fit
peak halo
So need to learn sp delay then
carmine reef
frail smelt
i think it would be easier if you said who you didn't have ss3 already lol
MB HAHA. Lucia, Selena, and Bianca, Hanying I guess
carmine reef
selena out of those
carmine reef
no
icy otter
You can point out individual chr mistakes
No ill do 212 from now but there's still core mistakes
icy otter
carmine reef
you'll probably iron out some of those mistakes by the time you learn how to sp delay on liv
frail smelt
selena out of those
My Physical team is kinda lacking so I guess that's the better choice
crystal rune
superpower delay
carmine reef
it's not just delay because just delay is just being slow
which i guess you're doing
carmine reef
if you did sp delay correctly you will get into ult1 with just 2x3p
icy otter
Ohhhhh
carmine reef
if you don't have ult1 after 2x3p you didn't do it right
icy otter
Ok I can bald that
Brb
Also my 8m run had 1 wata ult at start
Dunno why it scored higher
carmine reef
uh well yes you should be doing 1 wata at start...
otherwise he doesn't have df shred...
LMAO
carmine reef
deft apex
So start with lippu on df?
carmine reef
yes
deft apex
deft apex
Ok thanks
icy otter
I was doing 1 wata 1 vera
carmine reef
i think it needs to do ult2
deft apex
Liv > insta wata > vera
carmine reef
liv start 1 wata 2 vera
icy otter
Is vera gonna have orbs for 2 ults
trim apex
You can also start wata, 3p into hold ult1
carmine reef
my wata is on lingya :)
carmine reef
3r and 3p matrix on swap out
deft apex
my wata is on lingya :)
Aren't we all
carmine reef
Aren't we all
nope
crystal rune
lingya kinda redundant
carmine reef
a lot of people run sig cub
trim apex
Where is the 3p on ur wata
What do you mean by that
icy otter
I'm on s cub
deft apex
carmine reef
it sure aint redundant for me
carmine reef
i sure am
icy otter
What do you mean by that<:lulw:842384743269924925>
I don't ping orbs on him
Only blaze
carmine reef
correct
carmine reef
you don't need to ping orbs if he isn't holding lingya
deft apex
Erm so about leader skill on light/df, is it nana/liv or just liv/liv now
carmine reef
i'm only pinging orbs for the sake of lingya
icy otter
So if I'm not holding lingya
carmine reef
his actual rot doesn't require it
icy otter
Wait
trim apex
I don't ping orbs on him
I mean only for the first rot. You can start on wata, insta 3ping to ult1. This way you’ll only have to do 1 Vera ult to stack DF before switching to Liv
icy otter
Yea that's what I'm doing
trim apex
Since Liv won’t be on cd
icy otter
So 112 wata vera liv on start
Let's see this sp delay tech
How hard could it be chat
This is some beginner level stuff
trim apex
How hard could it be chat
carmine reef
Erm so about leader skill on light/df, is it nana/liv or just liv/liv now <:Evil...
leader in light prolly depends on invest, not sure
same rank is probably liv
trim apex
Erm so about leader skill on light/df, is it nana/liv or just liv/liv now <:Evil...
Liv for both unless S+ nana with 2S Liv
icy otter
<:WorryCommandant:860198708415168549>
I'll just 2×3 dodge 3
If it fails
Leaking swap cd anyway 1ms surely isn't a loss
crystal rune
why you so worried about leaking swap cd
trim apex
I'll just 2×3 dodge 3
Remember half a second over 4-5 rots adds up
deft apex
same rank is probably liv
Im on ss3 nastar and ss lifu
trim apex
yea sp delay saves like 5s at the end of the run
So you do 2x3p before swapping Liv out right?
deft apex
Im not even sure if I still solo or not
crystal rune
yea
deft apex
carmine reef
oh now it makes sense how you're fitting all that in
fk whel
i don't have the orbs to sustain that 
icy otter
WHY IS THERE A 300 MB UPDATE
young badge
icy otter
Die kuro
tacit tiger
Tier list for godfall revelation lol
icy otter
icy otter
Remember half a second over 4-5 rots adds up <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
I'm leaking swap cd from vera into liv
Missing 10s
Df trash
Burn lines up
young badge
just use glacio free 11m
young badge
oh wait ur glacio is homeless
young badge
icy otter
Wonder which scores higher chat
crystal rune
my glacio also homeless
crystal rune
444
young badge
homeles 444 333 444
icy otter
homeles 444 333 444
It's homeless he doesn't have the skins
tacit tiger
My dark team is kinda homeless
crystal rune
my mom is kinda homeless
dreamy pelican
im using 4 star characters im homeless
icy otter
Laugh at this user
crystal rune
wheres your 9m then
young badge
wait highest df is 25m or 26?
crystal rune
current globval highest is 24.8
and its possible to 25
for cn highest is 26.5 or smth cuz of fluc
young badge
same mapping?
icy otter
wheres your 9m then
Not possible at my inv
tacit tiger
Lee getting a disruption affix is kinda funny (if ever)
icy otter
fraudowlao
young badge
sloplao
young badge
i think im boutta retain for another week holy shee 5 retain in a row
slate gull
sorry, i have all the pilots
trim apex
I'm leaking swap cd from vera into liv
You are doing wata 1 rot right? What’s you wata rot looking like?
tacit tiger
Can we powercrept these?
trim apex
Can we powercrept these?
Na they are the goats
young badge
easily powercrept after eos
icy otter
You are doing wata 1 rot right? What’s you wata rot looking like?
Swap hult1 buffer basic hold dodge 4 blaze
peak halo
If we start getting 7*
Surly
tacit tiger
Is unc green field count as a matrix ping tho....
icy otter
Ok maybe retain is not gonna happen
crystal rune
holy slack bracket
young badge
est?!
trim apex
Swap hult1 buffer basic hold dodge 4 blaze
Then I hate tell you it’s probably your Vera rot being slow. Practice your core passive dodge trick
crystal rune
no est only pilots in glb
peak halo
carmine reef
Ok maybe retain is not gonna happen
where do people find brackets like this
barren wraith
Any updates for the new bot website for char building ?
tacit tiger
They better change the numbers in unc darkflow.... (ss3 fire deals more damage than sss darkflow)
peak halo
I have 3 or 4
obtuse dome
should I go for SSS Luna first or SS3 Wanshi/Lilith or SS Wata? (vouchers)
icy otter
I don't know any of these people
carmine reef
should I go for SSS Luna first or SS3 Wanshi/Lilith or SS Wata? (vouchers)
all 3 of those before luna
icy otter
i know nyaadesu is a whel, but skill issue
I'm finished
tacit tiger
all 3 of those before luna
Lilith first since its an amp
young badge
guy only did 2 zones frierenoncrack
slate gull
just enjoy the game
icy otter
just enjoy the game
Enjoy is retaining after 5 hour mald
icy otter
slate gull
Enjoy is retaining after 5 hour mald
ehh, doesnt really matter. WZ shop sucks ass
carmine reef
even occasional bp buyers most likely have an excess of vouchers rn if they're not new
peak halo
Retain is not everything
Even i cant to start mald for retain
carmine reef
f2p investing in dante
icy otter
No voucher no bc no reso
carmine reef
icy otter
No skill
crystal rune
and vergil
carmine reef
you deserve what you get
young badge
vgil gud
icy otter
Someone refund 110 pulls
slate gull
who's dante?
peak halo
slate gull
who's vergil?
carmine reef
vergil is pretty fun
icy otter
In study
carmine reef
dante kinda boring and bro got crept within a month
icy otter
Idk
carmine reef
peak halo
I only vergiling prev powered cuz my glacii/fire is out of ap
slate gull
tacit tiger
Give me liberty
Give me fire
Give me more hypertune mats or I retire
icy otter
@carmine reef @trim apex ok which chr is going wrong
For ref
Ignore qte
Is it all 3
In terms of speed
That's as fast as my vera goes
trim apex
<@82360936878313472> <@305151384674762754> ok which chr is going wrong
do you have a full run that we can look at?
icy otter
It'll take a day to update my 8m mil run on this connection
But after that last wata ult it's 2 vera ults
Into repeat
With that much swap timer left my vera leaks swap cd into liv
trim apex
do you do 2 Liv full stack ults?
trim apex
your invest is 232?
icy otter
1 wata > 1 vera > 1 liv > 1 wata > 2 vera > 1 liv
Is what I did
Yea
232 112
4 blaze 6 stack ult lines up perfectly for vera
But is that because I'm slow or what
surreal nest
any1 have the current highest score for 333 invest in darkflow
trim apex
But is that because I'm slow or what
imo just do one more Liv rot. 15 df stack allows Liv to do 2 rots, and imo if Liv is 2s do 1 full ult 1 fast ult (hold dodge). Then, when you swap to wata ult2 faster (don't do full 6 blaze), so you have more time to 2 rot vera.
Because rn your Wata > Vera swap cd is delayed since you only do 1 Liv rot.
icy otter
Is it delayed
I didn't do manual delay
I'm just that slow
So to me in my runs it looked lined up
trim apex
Is it delayed
You are not slow, you are fast actually. Since 1 full ult Liv rot is about 8 seconds
icy otter
trim apex
So to me in my runs it looked lined up
Do one more Liv rot. And then as long as your wata+vera rots can fit within 12 seconds Liv downtime you are good. For that to happen, ult on wata faster. You can't ult on 4 blaze rn because your Vera would still be on cd, so you end up crunching time for Vera rot
My solution for you is to 2 ult rot on Liv. Since you get 15 DF stack per vera rot anyways, not using them is wasting dmg.
dense tiger
i kinda need help with this as well
icy otter
My solution for you is to 2 ult rot on Liv. Since you get 15 DF stack per vera r...
What about first swap
Is my starter still 111
trim apex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&...
tl;dr do 2 ult rot on Liv, ult2 on Wata faster
dense tiger
who is your leader btw ?
icy otter
My initial run was with 1 full 1 fast ult on liv
trim apex
Is my starter still 111
Your starter would be wata 1, Vera 1, Liv 2. Then looping into wata 1, Vera 2, Liv 2
icy otter
But keep this in mind I wasn't doing sp delay so it was 2×3p hold dodge for second ult
icy otter
Your starter would be wata 1, Vera 1, Liv 2. Then looping into wata 1, Vera 2, L...
Liv 2 on start without 15 df stacks
trim apex
But keep this in mind I wasn't doing sp delay so it was 2×3p hold dodge for seco...
You could 2x3p dodge 3p, faster
icy otter
I don't have 15 on liv swap
icy otter
You could 2x3p dodge 3p, faster
Is fast ult not 2×3b in ult1 then hold dodge ult2
trim apex
Liv 2 on start without 15 df stacks
don't core dodge on Vera's first rot, then you'll get 15 stacks. Just hold BA
icy otter
who is your leader btw ?
Liv
trim apex
Is fast ult not 2×3b in ult1 then hold dodge ult2
oh yeah you are right, I thought you meant between ult2 and ult1
formal radish
How do I trigger quantum mechanic tunneling on wanshi's bullet ult
So it hits the next wave
icy otter
Oh yea sp delay is out the window so after ult2 I need to ping 9 orbs
Which means for second ult I don't have enough orbs for ult2
Unless I do second ult start as 2×3p hold dodge
Which wastes time
formal radish
So then when I swap to qu I can extend her rot for smoother wave clearing
icy otter
That time loss is what made me go 1 liv ult
trim apex
That time loss is what made me go 1 liv ult
Ok for full ult > fast ult 2s Liv rot:
Hold dodge > ult1
2x3p blue > white x4 > hold ba > ult2
2x3p > hold dodge > ult1
3p blue > hold dodge > ult2
Try this
Do this, then loop into wata 1 ult vera 2 ult. wata do 4-5 blaze or as fast as possible if you need more time for vera 2 rot
carmine reef
<@82360936878313472> <@305151384674762754> ok which chr is going wrong
why are you still doing 1 liv rot
ripe stag
done
trim apex
Is my starter still 111
Also key detail. For your initial Vera 1 rot, 3p blue on Vera right before swapping to Liv, so the next time you swap her in you only have to dodge blue ult. Do this at the end of all of your vera rots.
formal radish
icy otter
Also key detail. For your initial Vera 1 rot, 3p blue on Vera right before swapp...
Oh I do that
But it stops
In later waves
She runs out
trim apex
She runs out
I see. do you bring DLT on Vera?
icy otter
why are you still doing 1 liv rot
It was just solo rots for the 3
icy otter
I see. do you bring DLT on Vera?
Dlt and SAR
Idk if gs is better here
I've never found gs better over sar for wz
carmine reef
It was just solo rots for the 3
how did you manage to get worse
icy otter
It was an individual showcase dawg
How many of those 3 chr ults I do will be done in wz
carmine reef
it's not an individual showcase if doing 2 rots is part of how you play the character
icy otter
Gotta know if there's a core mistake
icy otter
Whether I'm slow on vera cancels
carmine reef
being able to do the 2 rots is core gameplay
icy otter
If I'm holding wata dodge too long
Etc
Being able to both of those 2 ults properly
Is even more core
icy otter
what score are you getting btw ?
8m so far
Also for fast double ult you need sp delay zex
icy otter
First swap liv can't do 2×3p dodge 3p ult1 after first rot
She doesn't have orbs for fast or long ult
trim apex
can you sp delay for 2s Liv and still have enough orbs without DLT
dense tiger
Are you starting with wata ult
yeah!!! are you legend or hero ?
icy otter
Sp is inconsistent
ripe stag
<:LivWow:706377042220023828>
I wanna kill the person who thought POWERED and overseer in PPC will be good idea
carmine reef
uh
wind hemlock
SS3 Nanami, SS3 Vera or SS3 Bianca? https://huaxu.app/na/players/28742954/characters
carmine reef
she has more than enough orbs
ripe stag
THEY AREN'T BUILD FOR PPC FAST KILLS
icy otter
I don't wanna lose sleep on missing an sp on 8s left
carmine reef
what are you talking about
unborn hound
<@495689616440033311> reinstall rn
pass
carmine reef
this is my orbs after 1st rot of 1st swap
steady otter
I wanna kill the person who thought POWERED and overseer in PPC will be good ide...
liv is the problem
dense tiger
this is my orbs after 1st rot of 1st swap
holy hdr
unborn hound
liv is the problem
fr fr
icy otter
16/16?
unborn hound
she is a mistake
formal radish
this is my orbs after 1st rot of 1st swap
Are you in heaven
carmine reef
it's liv ult2 cutscene
icy otter
Does ss3 change something
carmine reef
girl flashbangs u
icy otter
For orbs
ripe stag
liv is the problem
I wanna kill her anyways
dense tiger
Does ss3 change something
for df no
carmine reef
it does if you use hold dodge but that's not relevant if you're doing sp delay
carmine reef
yes
dense tiger
Does ss3 change something
cause you sp delay on df
steady otter
I wanna kill her anyways
i need feedback mail
dense tiger
wait hold ult into normal ult for ss3 can i work ?
icy otter
it does if you use hold dodge but that's not relevant if you're doing sp delay
Yea I don't wanna sp
I have 14/16
carmine reef
btw this is my orbs after 2nd rot of 1st swap
icy otter
After ult 1
icy otter
14/16 after first ult without sp so I have to ping 9 for ult1
Without dodge
Which leaves me with 5 blue
Dead
Requiring consistent sp is even more aids than messing up bianca red glow
Goty chr
🔥 🔥
icy otter
can you sp delay for 2s Liv and still have enough orbs without DLT<:hmmThinkers:...
Ok hear me out
I think orbs will work out after 1st swap
So begin with 111
Then 2 liv 2 vera
Or idk hold dodge on second liv ult also
For ult1
trim apex
Ok hear me out
or you can just... you know... do the rot that I gave you, which would be work without running out of orbs
trim apex
scroll up
icy otter
Ok for full ult > fast ult 2s Liv rot:
Hold dodge > ult1
2x3p blue > white x4 > ...
Yea hold dodge
formal radish
# TEDDY TOMORROW
Dark tank
steady otter
Teddy Tomorrow
another stupid cons coming soon
spiral merlin
Raydiance wz please
steady otter
i cant believe it when they do that too
ripe stag
another stupid cons coming soon
Watch her being not free
trim apex
Wata will bleed swap into vera
we only care if the entirety of wata+vera field time fits within Liv's cooldown. Since Liv is the main dmg dealer here.
carmine reef
idk bro i overpinged just to emulate ss0 and i still have enough orbs to do 2 rots on first swap with liv