📨・meta-help

[normal sierra]

cuz the builds depend on those ranks

[slender scarab]

the one with cc(crowd control), like pulling in enemies, etc.

[hallow iris]

What is the memo for darkflow team?

[lofty needle]

i have explode and electric sphere, says nothing about drawing enemies in, sucking them, or anything

[slender scarab]

if no crowd control then pick the one that does most dmg

it literally doesn't matter since cubs do 0 dmg anyway

[lofty needle]

is levvi supposed to have a crowd control skill?

[graceful summit]

Well it doesn't
Cubs doesn't always have cc skills

[lofty needle]

but liv already crowd controls the enemies with her 3rd basic attack, i think

[lofty needle]

but for levvi? if i get a separate levvi, will it have the same active skills, or diff?

[graceful summit]

And is there anyone who actually use Liv's basic attack(other than her hold ba)

[graceful summit]

Yes
Everything will be the same

[zinc charm]

anyone has hit 7 mil score on darkflow wz?

[lofty needle]

so all levvis dont have cc skills?

[crystal rune]

uh i hit 24.84m

[zinc charm]

wth man

[graceful summit]

24m
#📨・meta-help message

[zinc charm]

you whale 😭

[graceful summit]

Nergi

[zinc charm]

this guy hit 6.9 mil with 222 invest but i cant even reach 6.9 with 322 112 111 invest

dalaos are just diff breed i guess

[slender scarab]

are you sure you're holding the ult button to activate darkflow with vera and wata?

[carmine reef]

df score inflation is kinda crazy

[zinc charm]

lowkey i do question that on several runs on darkflow, just now i got 6.7, which is improvement from abyssmal 4m score

cant blame myself i was doing it on middle of class

[carmine reef]

2.332 112 team and i just tried df for the first time like 20 mins ago and i'm at 9m now

in hero

score inflation is unreal

[zinc charm]

whats d

df

[carmine reef]

darkflow

[stiff mist]

should I get Luna and finally use her skin (from that blue card thing) or get Qu Shukra or who..?

[zinc charm]

oh

[stiff mist]

I said Qu Shukra because Wanshi has no team rn soo

[zinc charm]

ehh shukra is lowkey old now

[carmine reef]

pay 5 rc to get the luna copy

[pulsar shell]

Either ur warzone difficulty is higher or ur team rotations aren’t perfect enough.

[carmine reef]

[zinc charm]

me seeing my liv's first ha moves missed

[stiff mist]

problem is I have no financial freedom to actually buy that, insignificant as it may be 😞

[carmine reef]

[stiff mist]

I would appreciate help but like, I can't even GET 5 rc 😭

[zinc charm]

sad indeed

whats your uid tho

[stiff mist]

21646812

[zinc charm]

what device

[stiff mist]

Mobile

hm I wonder why you'd ask ^^

[zinc charm]

naur like android or ios

[stiff mist]

I'm level 83

[stiff mist]

android

[zinc charm]

oh right server too

[stiff mist]

(that was pretty obvious XD)

[pulsar shell]

Bros about to get scammed

[stiff mist]

meh

the account is bad anyways

at least if I do get scammed I get a reason to leave or something something

😞

anyways

Qu Shukra for Wanshi?

Parhelion? Pianissimo?

Geiravor?

Lucia sun lady?

forgot her name :P

[zinc charm]

ngl all of them are good except for shukra

she is kinda old

[stiff mist]

well she's kinda the only one who I have a team mate for

[zinc charm]

ngl i felt like shukra had the weakest prio here tho

[thin trail]

God damn it! Polar bears shields are too thick i can't score more

ASYuutaKek

[stiff mist]

😭

sad

also why did you ask for my UID... and device

I didn't get a friend req

[zinc charm]

to top up your acc so you can have luna, so you can do the luna zaza

[stiff mist]

woah.

[zinc charm]

you can decline, which is fine by me, this kind of thing do felt like scam

[stiff mist]

that's amazing if true omg

[zinc charm]

i know because i once got scammed on mlbb

[thin trail]

Give it to me instead

imhotepwoke

[zinc charm]

[thin trail]

14671576
Android

-# hehhehehehe~

[graceful summit]

[zinc charm]

5 rc is all i can do, i am too broke

[thin trail]

Sure fine with me

[zinc charm]

kk server

[stiff mist]

hey.

[thin trail]

Just kidding! Give it to someone else
My acc is doing fine

[stiff mist]

😭😭

[zinc charm]

can you see dm tho

[thin trail]

Check it on Huaxu using that UID

[stiff mist]

okay let me see

[zinc charm]

i know you whale

[thin trail]

Nuh uh
I am the MOST FREE2PLAY player ever existed

Like frfrfrfr

Hmu hmu

lotus_hmu_hmu

[crystal rune]

hey im f2p too

[stiff mist]

f2p

forced to pay

[thin trail]

Forced2Pay

hw_lmao

[crystal rune]

WorryF2Pbtw

[chilly trail]

Forced2pilot

[crystal rune]

vailozbomayeobietnoijluon

[stiff mist]

forced2somethingsomethingfunnyjoke

[stiff mist]

better discord

[thin trail]

4Dlmaolmao

[stiff mist]

oml

🥹

[zinc charm]

biggest lie

[thin trail]

selenamurimuri

[crystal rune]

why expose me like that man

baclamtao

[coarse gorge]

is there any good rot vid about darkflow team with ss liv, ss3 vera, sss wata

[drifting cipher]

Is SS dark Bianca with sig still not the main DPS over SSS Lilith?

[stiff mist]

nobody actually cares

it's a good thing to use it

discord is a dirty greedy mess

[crystal rune]

i know nobody cares

but why expose me

Sadge

[stiff mist]

I use it too girl.

[crystal rune]

what if i just had a relaly big collection of other ppl's emotes

[fresh plover]

Nop

[stiff mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364636504659333155/1375654499577757736/togif.gif

youre funny

[true pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1382870887707185282.gif?size=160

[fresh plover]

For some reason the recent attackers have been excessively mediocre

[zinc charm]

cant deny its actually a good reason

i to hold alot of sticker on whats app

[elfin mango]

Guys there’s no way I can lose selena weapon and then lose again right

[zinc charm]

no

if you lose the rate up, it will be guaranteed of the rate up next time

if its in the past tho...

[drifting cipher]

Damn… as a Bianca lover I’m in shambles

[elfin mango]

I went for her weapon on base banner

[zinc charm]

its guarantted of the rate up next time

[drifting cipher]

Hopefully the next Raydiance unit doesn’t steal her spot lol

[fresh plover]

I mean she still does really solid damage
She just isnt lilith

[zinc charm]

no sadly, shes more of a raydiance unit than dark

SSS lillith still carry dark team

[fresh plover]

It shouldn't, in affixes the attacker does tend to be the biggest dps

Affixes are incredibly lopsided

[drifting cipher]

Great. Kamui looks like he’d be a Raydiance affix tank

[fresh plover]

Except ignition, but ignition is weird anyway

I'm at a lucky investment where dante is actually BiS

[thin trail]

Imagine Shukra leap

Aight gn

[zinc charm]

hes really good

one with longest ult too

so thats more time to sink in on last seconds of wz timer

[dense tiger]

6.9mil lightning ? coooked ?

[crystal rune]

cwooekd

[smoky spire]

Is Luna Oblivion still meta in the Nihil team, no sights of her being replaced soon right

[dense tiger]

she is nihil now

[dense tiger]

how the guys above me got 7.5 but he as 333 221

[smoky spire]

Alright thanks, I just finally invested into her since I got free 6 star

[crystal rune]

skill issue

[dense tiger]

lemme see your legend group

[crystal rune]

ok

[smoky spire]

[dense tiger]

omg

yeah gg

i take back everything that i said to Nergi

[crystal rune]

kekw

[drifting cipher]

59 million?!!

[dense tiger]

NA is doshit

they got 56 mil only

[crystal rune]

dw im dogshit too

Sadge

[smoky spire]

I got the blue target, who should I get, shouldl I just get Daren? I don't have her for Plasma Flash nor the Dark team

[mighty tusk]

where's that 20 mil lightning

[dawn cloak]

No way Darenina in almost 2026 bro

Like yea she still refuses to die
But still

[smoky spire]

I can't help it dawg, the dark team ain't complete without her nor the plasma flash

[crystal rune]

im bad Sadge

pls do for me pwo

[mighty tusk]

I haven't even played liv yet because she's sigless

[smoky spire]

If there is a replacement coming, please come soon, I am about to lose it if Daren doesn't die

[dawn cloak]

No way bro
Dark is doing better with other tank
Like SS0 Ishmael or SSS Wata/Nana off ele tank
Unless your Daren got sig R2 and SSS

[smoky spire]

She's basically outlived everyone

[crystal rune]

oh shes not fun

xdd

[dawn cloak]

But but but
The meme is Darenina meta till 2030

[crystal rune]

sp delays upon sp delays

[mighty tusk]

I also dont know her sp delay inputs

[smoky spire]

Alright, then who should I get I'll just use Ishmael I suppose

[dawn cloak]

~~ does sp delays works in laggy phone? ~~

[final fog]

Does wata apply darkflow shred on qte or needs to rotate?

[crystal rune]

xdd

[dawn cloak]

Me personally would save the blue ticket selector for future non limited unit
It stays till next year anyway

But well dunno, maybe other ppl have different valid answers

[carmine reef]

she's not used in dark nor plasma rn lmao

[mighty tusk]

ok lowkey we should stop comparing scores with cn and just compare it with what wave they cleared with it

[smoky spire]

Alright thanks, then I'll wait

[dawn cloak]

Needs to activate once
With hold ult, but then he stays darkflow all the time
UNLESS, you switch to him again

[nova quarry]

what was wata's build

[final fog]

Ah ok thanks
Whats the rotation for ss0?

[dawn cloak]

Eh, the usual same with fire
Except hold ult instead of tap ult

[fresh plover]

From what i heard if nanami is sss or above and watanabe isn't sss or higher, dante isn't played

Dante also has to be sss

[dawn cloak]

Its more on Vero rank invests isnt it?

[crystal rune]

It depends on all invest

[dawn cloak]

~~ omg pillar has spoken ~~

[fresh plover]

If nana is below sss and wata and dante are sss or above, the team is wata dante vero

No nana

[dawn cloak]

Yea I guess the main problem stems from all three of burn member are acting like main dps

[simple dew]

cant you just use sss everyone

[dawn cloak]

But meta wants 2 main dps one qte bot for more optimal score

[nova quarry]

whats wata's darkflow set

[simple dew]

same as fire

[dawn cloak]

4Alph 4dv qte bot as usual

[final fog]

Do you have the input i havent played wata at all

[formal radish]

Korematona elobashinote

[quasi seal]

whats wata's darkflow tank set

[fresh plover]

Alphonse dvc, same as normal

[quasi seal]

doesnt vera us da vinci

[fresh plover]

No

Vera does damage

[dawn cloak]

#📨・meta-help message
Its on pinned too btw

[quasi seal]

what set she uses.

[formal radish]

No

4shakespeare4cottie in fire idk bout no darkflow

I only know umbra surge

[quasi seal]

what is itr

[formal radish]

No I don't know

Umbra surge is just the old translation for darkflow

We should've kept old names

[quasi seal]

ik

[final fog]

Ok thanks

[dawn cloak]

They still cooking
Still only one darkflow zone anyway
Follow at your own risks as always

[formal radish]

Void > Nihil
Ionization > Plasma Beam
Glaciation > Glaciation
Umbra Surge > Darkflow
Combustion > Ignition
Trueslash > Ultima Slash

[simple dew]

ignition and plasma lowkey are better than the original

[formal radish]

Ignition maybe

Plasma Beam is a wuss name

[crystal rune]

Plasma beam sucks

[dense tiger]

cooked ? still

[fresh plover]

I just call it ion or plasma, switch things up

[dense tiger]

true

[formal radish]

Abysstigma

[fresh plover]

Trueslash will always be trueslash tho

[formal radish]

Radiant Daybreak

[dawn cloak]

Should be true dimensional slash
But too long

[crystal rune]

Worgil

[dense tiger]

wait guys df liv rot is only long ult ?

[nova quarry]

im confused how do u trigger ishmael's high kick

[dense tiger]

hold dodge when her core is purple

i mean the number above her core bare is purple

[nova quarry]

yeah like how do you trigger the purple thing

max number?

[celest drum]

2 red pings + 2 dodge in domina

[celest drum]

Makes it purple

[nova quarry]

in any order?

or thats the order

[celest drum]

As stated yeah

2 red 3 pings

And 2 dodge attacks

[slate gull]

can i have a borgur?

that's my order

[crystal rune]

No

[slate gull]

[nova quarry]

whats the optimal luna rot

with the leap

[slate gull]

i think it's on pins

[crystal rune]

<@&595893856554319873> free money

[nova quarry]

do you need to make luna gauge 300 on second rot or not really

oh wait nvm i done it

[nova forum]

hai i need vid ref for 232.3 122 111 ln and 232.3 111 df

[nova forum]

[crystal rune]

What if I say no

[nova forum]

then i'll send you to uranus

[crystal rune]

Oh no not my anys

[nova forum]

wut invest and set?

[ripe stag]

2.132

Liv wata vera

Liv 4 bath 4 cot

Wata 4 alph 4 dv

Vera 4 guin 2 Eins 2 cottie

[nova forum]

reso?

[dawn cloak]

Where SS0 Liv
You fake f2p

[ripe stag]

Liv R1
Wata R2
Vera R3

First tap with that set

[nova forum]

🗿

this mf

[ripe stag]

I think it's optimisable

[ripe stag]

I always R3 Amps

Not always

[nova forum]

memo reso bruh

[ripe stag]

The newer amps

[ripe stag]

Oh wait

Liv on core
Wata on class
Vera on 3 class 3 ult cuz I had those memory sets

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/selena-capriccio-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-selena-gif-27546421

[median spade]

improvement

[ripe stag]

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

[nova forum]

3 class 4 ult?

[ripe stag]

That's typo

3 ult 3 class

[nova forum]

wut the correct one

[crystal rune]

Wut invest

[nova forum]

oh

[median spade]

444

low

[crystal rune]

Where 25m

[ripe stag]

Ult reso all

[nova forum]

should i get ss3 lim

[median spade]

under there

[ripe stag]

Remember
The QTE damage doesn't change to Darkflow

It's only lightning

[trim apex]

Setsu said mostly class skill but ult is ok too

[ripe stag]

But you can still feel the hit in Darkflow

[trail stump]

whats the score for SSS 3 Reso Nami and Liv, SS0 Ish

[dawn cloak]

Its a limited unit
Might as well
Succumbs to kuro greed

[brave sigil]

im in same lobby with windbell

[nova forum]

i'm gonna kiwi

🗿

surely

[brave sigil]

why cant my hero lobby just pick up their slack, i dont wanna be in legend

[median spade]

i'm still getting demoted at this

[crystal rune]

Up score gng

[nova forum]

what in the hell

[median spade]

milk and tari account in bracket

i can mald all i want its still over

[nova forum]

imma hold my wz entrance lmao

goddamn whel

[crystal rune]

I got a slack bracket

[glass edge]

why is Veronica weap not here????

[median spade]

pilot me too

[dawn cloak]

Next patch it seems

[nova forum]

she just released chronologically last patch

[sonic citrus]

2 patch rule

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936952109612552192.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worryEggplant

[median spade]

thats crazy

[glass edge]

demn 2 patch thats long

[trim apex]

Lmao what a bracket
Also I remember entering wz the second it opened, and you are already there. You camping mfer

[median spade]

jk i just need to be better

and not enter on sunday night

[dawn cloak]

Ban spawn camper

[crystal rune]

I needed to relay info to my fellow malders

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1437547986229006538.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CutePriestess

[median spade]

maybe milk will stay drunk for the week

and not demote me

[trim apex]

Wait so if I always camp I always will end up in the same bracket as you lol

[crystal rune]

Maybe

[trim apex]

SEA player base cooked

[crystal rune]

I want to get into Zebra brwcket

Imagine seeing 2 ppl with 60m+

[nova forum]

big black number

[median spade]

i'm not consistent enough with vera yet

i think thats my bottleneck

[nova forum]

ngl i shoulda wait for ero to be added to base banner

and get knightnami from thunder

[crystal rune]

Not consistent with Vera WorryThinkAsian

[median spade]

triple rot anni cancels are hard for my old hands

[dense tiger]

wait can i try running GS on vera for dark flow ?

or will i run out of orbs

[trim apex]

60 mil retain incoming

[median spade]

just get r3

[dense tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

no but seriously

cause i was thinking of this

[nova forum]

is it even worth using 2poin on lim

or just stick with 4bath 4cot

[crystal rune]

Bath cooties

[median spade]

holy active student

THRIVING GAME

[dawn cloak]

Yea 4 hervor eliminates dlt needs
But seems lower dmg for SSS
Dunno tho, just test it urself

[pallid cypress]

what memory set i should use for feral?

in lightning PPC

[dawn cloak]

Already correct, 4dv 2 guin as qte bot

[fading kestrel]

thats correct

[nova forum]

does lim need dlt?

[crystal rune]

Maybe

[median spade]

maybe

[dense tiger]

yeah i am trying right now

ty

[nova forum]

[pallid cypress]

also for dark PPC for tank ish is 4 davinci, 2 eins and 2 glorias good?

[nova forum]

why so

[crystal rune]

Hold dodge skip

[pallid cypress]

lilith is on barcello and cottie and dianca is on bathlon

[crystal rune]

Me thinks

[nova forum]

[pallid cypress]

or for dark is davinci and sothot for ish?

[dawn cloak]

Synced globally
Everyone needs to test their own
Cuz everyone still cooking anyway

[crystal rune]

Wheres my synced fluc

Sea 366 is a scam

Cn w51 2504 sea w53 2484

Scam

[formal radish]

Karamentanoia

[median spade]

scam kusogames

[nova forum]

worst part is there are less than 10 dalao who scour bilibili

[dawn cloak]

For ppc can, but you need to manage qte very well
Easy and comfier to just use 4 Sothoth, gives 12sec shred field after ult1 and/or ult2

[dawn cloak]

I mean, lets be honest
CN was running Vera 4dv 4guin for 2 months as meta builds for all ranks
Bilibili aint even the main souce anymore bro

[pallid cypress]

4 sothot and 4 davinci?

[dawn cloak]

Yea cuz dark Bianca already 4 Bathlon (unless SSS)

[nova forum]

holy pak is the gem that ded

[dawn cloak]

~~ or CN too filled with whelz malder ~~

[crystal rune]

Cn mindset

[dawn cloak]

Maybe the SS0 CN player dont feel malding

[crystal rune]

I mean even then shakes cottie for 444 was better

[dawn cloak]

Isnt it depends on zone/wave still? Or nah?

[crystal rune]

After Wata leap it kinda just depends on zone if Vera is on dvc or not

[dawn cloak]

Yea PGR was never too big anyway

[crystal rune]

Nah tjat was before Wata leap

[dawn cloak]

I mean, I came from arknights, and I feel more brain in meta community there than in meta pgr

[formal radish]

Ahahaha

[dawn cloak]

Maybe action games and brain arent really a match

[formal radish]

I'll hook up the bot again

[carmine reef]

the game itself has just moved in a direction that requires less brainpower

shred fields and dv rework make qte management trivial compared to before

rotation variations and flexibility increasingly become gated by rank ups

[trim apex]

also less and less complex characters

[carmine reef]

i don't agree with that

how can you possibly think there are less complex characters now than gen2 or gen1

[fading kestrel]

just do sp delay smh

[median spade]

some people have this crazy idea about how "complex" characters "used to be"

[carmine reef]

most of gen2 was just "press ult1, ping orbs until you can do core, press ult2"

[trim apex]

compared to earlier gen 3/late gen 2. You cannot tell me Pyroath is less complex than Vera/Vero

[carmine reef]

ok so your idea of "the before times" was a few months ago

[formal radish]

Ok unc how long ago was it then

[carmine reef]

surely you have to understand how easy it is to strawman an argument out of characters releasing in close proximity to each other

[trim apex]

In terms of meta application, character rotations are more fixed than ever, aside from tech like sp delay

[carmine reef]

bro

[formal radish]

Where you think thise rots came from

[carmine reef]

alisa phys rotation is hold ba ping 1 orb and ult

[formal radish]

You think we shat out those rots

[crystal rune]

Yes

[formal radish]

Fair

[trim apex]

[formal radish]

Imo

Gen 1 wasn't like complex

[crystal rune]

We sh it

But it’s good sh it

[median spade]

im sh it

[formal radish]

It just had alot of rng

[carmine reef]

if you think gen1 had less fixed rots then it's because gen1 didn't have rots

you just did whatever until you ran out

[formal radish]

Just maintaining plume ice mode forever

Gosh I wanna play my gen 1 team again

[upbeat phoenix]

Guys what should be my (non voucher) SS3 priority?

[carmine reef]

also like lest we forget luna oblivion came out in the same timeframe you're mentioning here

with the most gen2 ass playstyle ever

[formal radish]

Dodge dodhe dodhe

[carmine reef]

wanshi wata lilith

[crystal rune]

non vouchers

[upbeat phoenix]

I got all three

[carmine reef]

oh

[upbeat phoenix]

and those are vouchers xD

[dense tiger]

looks like its better

[carmine reef]

oops i'm afflicted by the glb curse

[upbeat phoenix]

In other words, who I'm using the blue selector on

[carmine reef]

nanami ish selena

[formal radish]

rip

[carmine reef]

probably one of those 3

[upbeat phoenix]

Yeah, I was thinking of Ish

Thanks!

[formal radish]

This small server I'm in

Somehow

[median spade]

global moment

[formal radish]

Another person goes to my school

I'm talking to them tomorrow

[median spade]

at launch i had a coworker that played

[carmine reef]

that coworker? albert einstein.

[median spade]

my only time running into anyone else who knew the game

[formal radish]

Ok unc

[median spade]

OKAY

you guys are hilarious

[formal radish]

How was it playing during '21

How was covid dad

[median spade]

fck bluestacks

[nova forum]

in what century

[carmine reef]

mambo fondly thinking back to the days of 2021 when they didn't have homework cause they were in preschool

[formal radish]

Like the 20th

[formal radish]

Miss those days

[median spade]

mambo was sucking his thumb in 21

[crystal rune]

Same

[formal radish]

But now I'm all grown up

[carmine reef]

i was sucking nathan's thumb in 21

[crystal rune]

Sucking something else

[nova forum]

i was sucking

[nova forum]

sucking the fabric of space time

[crystal rune]

We all be sucking

[median spade]

i suck now

[formal radish]

As below so above or something

I don't suck anymore

Im

Puffing

[crystal rune]

Suck

[trim apex]

Succ

[formal radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256475891039731732/1422756722623119421/togif.gif

[nova forum]

i should just build my pity on phylo banner

[formal radish]

:dumbb

[nova forum]

hopium i get lim below 20 pulls

[trim apex]

gamba time?

[nova forum]

LMAO

I JJUUST FCKING GOT HER

[formal radish]

Yay

Send it here buddy

Show proof

[nova forum]

no flex allowed here mf tryna sabotage me

[formal radish]

[trim apex]

great, happy for you

[formal radish]

Anyway goodnight guys

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-gif-black-guy-peace-gif-11895402319065749178

[nova forum]

nighty night

[formal radish]

Mayyy uhhh

Ummm

[nova forum]

gib kiss

sloppy one

[formal radish]

Nevermind

I don't remember her name

[nova forum]

[formal radish]

Anafabula

🙂‍↕️

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414910583655895124/1422458265005985824/attachment.gif

[hasty badge]

man seeing the meta now especially on darkflow, feels like need atleast 2 weeks to cook up before building things cuz damn Ive wasted mats again on that vera hypertune mem sig

[formal radish]

Jokes on you

I already wasted my hypertunes when she first released

Cowabummer

[nova forum]

got jinxed by tradition

[hasty badge]

[trim apex]

It is what it is. Now that sync is over we don't have foresight anymore

[nova forum]

second unit to not use 4sig

[formal radish]

Whos the other

[nova forum]

gei

[trim apex]

also weren't you going to bed

[formal radish]

The other other

[hasty badge]

yeah this is a expensive lesson learned

[formal radish]

Nnever said rhat

Damn

[trim apex]

so this is just a general greeting then

[formal radish]

Is zexous a millenial

Aw damnit

He's still gen z

[dawn cloak]

Heh
Watch next month theres new tech found and somehow meta builds changes again

[formal radish]

How youthful

[dawn cloak]

Its just how it is, synced globally

[nova forum]

does lim """"""need"""""" dlt?

[formal radish]

"""""""""""""""i""""""""""""""" """""""""""""""dont""""""""'""""""" """""""""""''''know""""""""""""""

[graceful summit]

Huh
Looks like I really need ish to beat solo nana score
Liv is not looking good

[dawn cloak]

Many says dont need
But as always, still testing

[graceful summit]

Maybe I'll ss3 her

[ashen parcel]

Do i run 4 cottie or 4 hervor on darkflow vera?

So Bathlon X hervor
or
Bathlon X Cottie

Vera is SSS5 and above

[nova forum]

how did you get stuck on sss5

[dawn cloak]

Another prey for kuro greed

[nova forum]

[ashen parcel]

Trying to SSS+ her

[dawn cloak]

Yes SS3 Liv makes her not skippable for real

[median spade]

there is no "try to S+"

[graceful summit]

I'm gonna milk every story bc fr

[median spade]

you either get it or don't do it

[graceful summit]

I've waited for too long

[ashen parcel]

I was patient with my whaling so i didnt pull as much as i needed to but when she comes back ill sss+ vera

also

We do "try"

Out here

[nova forum]

uh huh

[ashen parcel]

i Try Hard

But anyway

[dawn cloak]

Yeh next week anniv banner
100% rate

[median spade]

what in the world is that cub

treat wife better

[plain oyster]

With feral?

[ashen parcel]

XD

[graceful summit]

Yea

[ashen parcel]

But yeah my quetion

[nova forum]

whel enough to get sss+, but too broke to get a single cub

[ashen parcel]

DarkFlow Vera
Bathlon X Hervor?
or
Bathlon X Cottie?

[ashen parcel]

It be like that

Actually i have her cub

[nova forum]

time to whel more

[dawn cloak]

Feral has problem activating 4guin btw
Maybe from that

[ashen parcel]

i just not put it into this build

[sick flower]

does limpidity need dlt

[ashen parcel]

I think she does

[graceful summit]

What no ish does to my account

[nova forum]

you ain't gonna get a firm answer until next month

[ashen parcel]

@dawn cloak Are you familiar with darkflow vera?

[dawn cloak]

Well, still need ish sig tho
Else Feral + sig arguably still better

[sick flower]

why

[dawn cloak]

Im not whel omg
Dun asks me

Sssssssss+ Vera I dunno

[orchid owl]

maybe for some crazy rots
but she has a rot that doesn't need DLT (tho I don't know if she eventually does run out of orbs or not)

[dawn cloak]

Just trust in next light amp

[sick flower]

what even is her rotation

[ashen parcel]

No im not asking if you are whel. Im a common person just like you. Trying to make humble builds just like everyone else. PWEEEEEASE DONT LEAVE ME

[orchid owl]

swap in > hold dodge > ult 1 > 2 x 3-ping > tap shard (white) orb x 4 > hold atk > ult 2
2 x 3 ping > hold dodge > ult 1 > 2 x 3-ping > tap shard (white) orb x 4 > hold atk > ult 2

something like that (for lightning at least)

[dawn cloak]

At SS0 Vera 4Hervor seems better
But dunno if SSSSS+
And also depends on Liv rank

Then again, everything still tested

[ashen parcel]

Oki doki ty

[dawn cloak]

Results also only valid for this week for now, we dunno if next week changes again, or if theres ppc, etc etc

[median spade]

i have vera on 4guin 2cot 2eins

[sick flower]

does she use hold dodge in second form

[median spade]

s+

[plain oyster]

Whel

[median spade]

amp buffs dlt

[orchid owl]

nope

[median spade]

df is no fast ults

wait is this real

[orchid owl]

vera nana new coating?

[median spade]

yeah the teased ones

[orchid owl]

let me see

[sick flower]

I TOLD YOUUUUU I TOLD YOUUUUUUUU

[formal radish]

Oh for goodness sake

[trim apex]

From sources I trust (Setsu/Bilibili) DF Geiravor builds 4 guin 2 cottie 2 eins, 6x atk 6x class/ult (both are ok, mostly class)

[formal radish]

They finally did it

[orchid owl]

that first one is literally like the candy coating

[median spade]

nana looks gacha, i hope it isn't but i wouldn't be surprised

looking forward to this more casual looking vera coating though

[trim apex]

Core passive does more dmg in df, so 2x full stack ult is the rot

[median spade]

thats kind of crazy if teddy is actually light amp.. right after getting a light attacker

[orchid owl]

she does look like that

[dawn cloak]

CW followed by Feral again

[trim apex]

it's that product aftercare

[dawn cloak]

Its not the 1st time it happened at least

[sonic citrus]

The only difference is one patch faster.

[trim apex]

same story with Vero, but they miscalculated

[nova forum]

5 S ranks in 6 patch less gooooo

[dawn cloak]

Yeh, cuz less A rank produced now

[median spade]

oh i forget it was cw into feral

zitherwoe was between them though right

[sick flower]

WE ARE GETTING FULL REPLACEMENTS NOW

[sonic citrus]

Yes

[orchid owl]

yes

[dawn cloak]

You can only blame oursleves, we are the one filling that questionaire
Kuro did asks "do you want more A ranks or more S ranks?"

[sick flower]

FIRST ALPHA, THEN 21, THEN WHAT? ECHO!

this delays the replacement of epitaph tho

[median spade]

who is leading the free teddy agenda

[dawn cloak]

Nah, Kamui looks fire
Fire tank surely

Which means Darenina still meta in 2026 2nd half

[median spade]

we should understand by now that looks are not an indicator of what the unit will be

[sick flower]

epitaph can easily keep up to gen 3 content i dont see them replacing epitaph, i have been saying kamui replaces epitaph since weve seen kamui just because he looks like fire and plasma beam or raydiance but realistically speaking epitaph is too early to be replaced, he performs goodish in fire and very good in darkflow

so the full replacement of epitaph theory is complete garbage

(considering darkflow scores the highest, there is no way we are getting a new darkflow unit any time soon)

[median spade]

kamui ice amp surely

[dawn cloak]

Bro, SSS Epitaph already no dmg in darkflow compared to SS0 Vera

What kind of compete lol

[sick flower]

which team gets the highest possible score in the game?

[sonic citrus]

Blame CW for the dmg nerf on his darkflow for leap.

[dawn cloak]

Fabio will surely says Rosetta is amp cuz she wields the stick

[trim apex]

Kamui Dark/Radiance tank trust

[dawn cloak]

But doubt an amp have two form change that can do it freely

[sick flower]

@dawn cloak you are talking complete nonsense, darkflow would go beyond 30m with a new darkflow tank

[trim apex]

Rosetta new ice attacker

[dawn cloak]

PREACH!!

Praying for Qu swift death

[median spade]

right now its darkflow

[dawn cloak]

~~ am tired of solo Wanshi ~~

[sick flower]

rosetta ice amplifier but not very strong
no leap for lucid dreamer
alpha ice attacker but very op

[sick flower]

and that mf thinks epitaph is irrelevant or something bro wtf 💔

[dawn cloak]

LOL, lmao even
Fire team curse exist
Always on fire

[sick flower]

lets make darkflow able to go up to wave 1000 or else its bricked right randall?

[median spade]

well he's at the end stage of a units life qte bot for some rots

[dawn cloak]

Im saying fire tank anyway, not darkflow tank

[sick flower]

he will live the life of affix echo but he will live longer than affix echo

[trim apex]

Wata's 60% df shred is single-handedly keeping him relevant rn

[sick flower]

60%

[trim apex]

yes, his leap gives him 60% shred for darkflow

[sick flower]

how much is his fire shred

[trim apex]

45% fire shred at 3S vs. 60% DF shred at 3S

[sick flower]

is SSS0 enough for these buffs or does he need more than SSS0

[plucky rampart]

SSS3 just more Ult dmg

[sick flower]

and whats his sss+

[median spade]

beyond 3s is just damage

[plucky rampart]

even more dmg

[sick flower]

on what

[plucky rampart]

red orb

[sick flower]

on red orb? on what

ah

[sick flower]

that looks very good

ngl

[median spade]

its alright

[sick flower]

but its not worth for a dolphin right

[median spade]

no you're better off getting S+ vera instead

[plucky rampart]

not worth, spare your voucher for new Teddy

free from dorm

[median spade]

i kinda hope she's free

i don't wanna buy bc with rc

[trim apex]

remember each tier beyond 3s costs 18 shards, so SSS3 costs an additional 54 shards

[tight marten]

do we have tested darkflow team builds?

[novel token]

guy is this gud?

[tight marten]

dlt is better on hanying if u want double ult rotation

if she's below SS3 that is

[icy otter]

4alph 4dv

Tho apparently 4 shakes is better than alph

[dawn cloak]

Bro what

No way bro
Alph is 25% to 45% shred
Shakes is 15% max

[formal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/mayano-top-gun-mayano-uma-musume-awful-mood-awful-gif-14217751885667095102

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

[dawn cloak]

Shakes vs dv then maybe
But not alph

[icy otter]

Idk they were telling me shakes in void

[formal radish]

Maybe

[icy otter]

Perhaps it was vs dv

[formal radish]

4alph4shakes

[dawn cloak]

Yeh alph shakes
Not shakes dv

[formal radish]

Cause you did use that in void

Ohh my days

The days of luna wata ayla in void

3rot luna

Basic attack merchant

[dawn cloak]

Its bout dv vs shakes
Which is worth

Alph is 45% on sss wata no way you lose that

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[tight marten]

ss0 liv (4bath2cot will harmo 2cot later) ss3 wata (4alph2eins) ss0 vera (4hervor2cot2guin)

is this okay for darkflow?

[dawn cloak]

Get wata sig from free selector if you can

[formal radish]

I don't understand this lingo anymore

Nvm i do

Idk what im talking about

[tight marten]

i got luna sig from it instead :(

[dawn cloak]

Go sleep bro

[formal radish]

What did you get for me

[dawn cloak]

Well, both is useful yea
Then gotta wait for gacha

[dawn cloak]

As always, not yet picked
Its perma anyway

~~should I pick Darenina sig hmmmm ~~

[tight marten]

well i do have the option to trade luna's sig for wata, luna's sig is not harmonized or reso'd either way. should i do it? luna seems to perform fine with 5 star now after her leap

[formal radish]

Kamui sig

Tenebrion

[dawn cloak]

Ah, the BIG Kamui

[icy otter]

@peak halo I have the sauce

[formal radish]

Just reso fodder ig

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/satoru-gojo-toji-fushiguro-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-s2-season-2-gif-6658922801180742286

[dawn cloak]

No whatduhell bro no
Is it picked already?

[icy otter]

Unless 8m for 232 111 is no longer good for df

If that's the case kill liv

[formal radish]

I don't think so?

Not that I'd know

I think im

[tight marten]

yeah i got luna sig from selector. i have 300 of those 6* weapon currency. if i recycle luna sig i can get enough to buy wata sig from shop.

[formal radish]

Wait who's darkflow support

Oh vera

Oh my goodness

I guess my invest for darkflow is 232 123?

[icy otter]

Why did bro recycle 2 weapons already

[formal radish]

I'll update you when I try it

[unborn hound]

guys lets play the real pgr

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[tight marten]

80-20 losses :(

[dawn cloak]

NO NO NO DONT

[icy otter]

U don't recycle them

[tight marten]

alright 👍

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[formal radish]

You don't scrap them

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-munching-cat-kitty-munching-cat-eating-cat-close-up-gif-575723154021362882

[formal radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1426511259616022654/1430437929226080276/lv_0_20251022130318_0_COMPRESSED-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

Uh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1426511259616022654/1430437929226080276/lv_0_20251022130318_0_COMPRESSED-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

There

[icy otter]

Khaled df zone is just exactly burn zone

Same stage same mobs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1353896360579170364.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=crashingout

[dawn cloak]

Is there even any good racing game nowadays tho?

~~ I just cant move on from NFS MW and Carbon ~~

[unborn hound]

[formal radish]

Aghhgvhshahahshfa

[peak halo]

donno
also 4guin 2cottie eins vera?

[formal radish]

I should rejoin lost

Not for pgr

For uma ig

[icy otter]

No

[formal radish]

Nvm

[icy otter]

4 bath

[unborn hound]

tokyo xtreme racer

wreckfest

trailout

nfs heat

[formal radish]

If I keep returning

I'll eventually redownload the game

[unborn hound]

nfs hp remastered

[formal radish]

🤢

[icy otter]

4bath 2 cottie 2 eins vera

Single liv ult rot

To sync swap cd

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[unborn hound]

i still play hp remastered online

it's so good

[pulsar shell]

Damn should’ve waited before fully building Liv. (left 4 piece Natasha, right 4 piece Heisen)

[plucky rampart]

Vera should 4 guin 2 eins 2 cottie

[dawn cloak]

Huh
Maybe I'll take a look one day
I just cant trust nfs franchise anymore

[dawn cloak]

So her banner sucks, limited sucks, and her sig mem sucks huh

[pulsar shell]

Kinda yeah I burnt 80k Sim coins on her sig mem

[dawn cloak]

[pulsar shell]

And tons of resso material

[unborn hound]

just keep in mind that hot pursuit is nothing like heat and mw and carbon

its like if og nfs games (1-porsche unleashed) had a baby with burnout

heat is the closest to mw and carbon i guess

[dawn cloak]

Got it

[drifting cipher]

2010 NFS HP is goated

Only beaten by Most Wanted on GameCube

[peak halo]

also i donno who with can consolt with 232 df
even ezra 2.3 liv

[final fog]

How is NFS MW 2005 is the worst?

😭

[chilly glade]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[unborn hound]

cuz carbon solos no diff im afraid

[chilly glade]

then how come carbon is in the worst tier

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1430963441778299071/image0.gif

https://tenor.com/view/darius-need-for-speed-nfs-nfsc-need-for-speed-carbon-gif-25071146

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/liv-pgr-limpidity-punishing-gray-raven-gif-14167880200349782087

[hushed aurora]

um so they sent me here from general room

any ideas or type shi which memories are good for liv?

[faint monolith]

Did I cook?

[hushed aurora]

no

[unborn hound]

No

[faint monolith]

[hushed aurora]

u can do better

[final fog]

Nanami solo?

[hushed aurora]

[hushed aurora]

??

[faint monolith]

No SS0 Lifu

[hushed aurora]

drop memo

[faint monolith]

Who

[hushed aurora]

idk i’m answering to u

[faint monolith]

Lifu? 4 Natasha 4 cottie

[hushed aurora]

guess

oh yes

thx

[faint monolith]

Apparently heisen better at SS0 but am too lazy to change it

[hushed aurora]

alr

is her cub necessary or can i give her cw ss cub?

[faint monolith]

Idk, I do have her cub so maybe ye get it

[grand jay]

If you like more dmg then yes

[hushed aurora]

alr

[faint monolith]

Wth is considered a good score here then

I knew I should've QTE Lifu in that last sec to kill wave and hop on 32 smh

[final fog]

Dk 8 mil?

Check yt or bilibili

[faint monolith]

Is that even possible at a pleb invest?

[final fog]

222 111 111?

[faint monolith]

22.32 111 111

[final fog]

The score should be better

Nanami solo does 6 mil at least no way liv does worse

[faint monolith]

Idk about 8mil

[hushed aurora]

and resonance? atk and?

[faint monolith]

Core

[hushed aurora]

alr

[final fog]

Time qte well you'll get +1 mil score

[faint monolith]

How the hell do you type pgr in Chinese

[drifting cipher]

Is Dante w/sig and cub better than SS Vera no sig for Ignition?

[final fog]

Vera is fire not ignition

But yea no sig vera isnt good as a dps

Use donte

[drifting cipher]

I’ve just seen people use her for ignition so I guess that was why my question

Would Dante or Veronica be the main dps for ignition?

[final fog]

Veronica is better as main dps assuming same invest

[drifting cipher]

She doesn’t have her sig or cub atm. So I’m guessing Dante

[final fog]

Yea

[drifting cipher]

Haven’t used him since I got him lol. Need to learn his rotations

[final fog]

Use dante nanami and veronica

[drifting cipher]

Him and Vergil. Have them both at SS with sig and cubs

Just summoned for them but never used lol

[final fog]

Donte is much easier to use than vergin

[hushed aurora]

where is your motivation for using vergil?

[final fog]

Locked behind ss3 r2 solacetune

And godly qte timings

[hushed aurora]

ig u haven’t play dmc right?

[final fog]

Only 4

[hushed aurora]

u didn’t get the reference

[hushed aurora]

damn play 5

it’s also good

[final fog]

I dont have the required hardware to play

[eager crypt]

Am I Tripping or do Lilith has Much more Hp than other characters in Godfall Pvp?

[sick flower]

vergil is boring in dmc3 and dmc4 im not gonna lie

[young badge]

wrong server

[hushed aurora]

on what u playin

[young badge]

gameboy prob

[hushed aurora]

that’s why i’m telling them to play 5

[sick flower]

"them" him bro 🥀

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/hm-hm-hm-dog-hm-hm-gif-2956664628454373304

[unborn hound]

her cub is necessary

https://tenor.com/view/cat-munching-cat-kitty-munching-cat-eating-cat-close-up-gif-575723154021362882

[sick flower]

how necessary

100% need or small increase

[hushed aurora]

thiiiiiiiis muuuuuuuuch

(idk)

[sick flower]

this much ( )

[hushed aurora]

yes

[unborn hound]

need

[sick flower]

OH GREAT HEAVENS

ITS BETTER THAN PIANISSIMO CUB RIGHT?

[hushed aurora]

okay okay they won i’m cooked

[unborn hound]

i think so

garbage ass unit

27500bc for ss3 nanami score

[sick flower]

khaled whats the worst cub in pgr (gen 3)

[unborn hound]

vero

[hushed aurora]

how am i supposed to pull 80% rarity her weapon AND cub when there is no fck way i could farm for that

😀

[sick flower]

ah so veronica cub is not worth getting

[unborn hound]

yep

[sick flower]

what about geiravor

[unborn hound]

u can just use yuan ye for

burn veronica

[hushed aurora]

bro

[sick flower]

i think geiravor cub would be good

[unborn hound]

it's mediocre but i still recommend it

[final fog]

A potato

[sick flower]

better than pyroath cub?

[hushed aurora]

oh yea sorry buddy that ain’t gonna work

[unborn hound]

nah get pyroath

[young badge]

vera cub buff ult1

[unborn hound]

yep

it's ddecent but other cubs are more important

vero doesnt even need her cub

[sick flower]

how important is pyroaths cub

can you show me its buff

[sick flower]

thats... weak...

[trim apex]

Some skill I haven't levelled fully yet. For example at max level skill 2 should give 100 atk

[sick flower]

isnt the one that gives atk the second worst

[trim apex]

Importance goes Unique > Element % > ATK > EDB on activation > Cub skill dmg I think

[sick flower]

thats wrong

[trim apex]

But you should look at the unique skill and decide if that's worth. Otherwise just to use Yuan Ye

[sick flower]

last 3 are the only important ones

[trim apex]

ATK buff is constant, but EDB needs you to activate CUB

It's correct. Especially when the ATK bonus can increase QTE dmg, but EDB can't since you can't activate the cub when the character is off-field

[sick flower]

its not correct

[trim apex]

Think about it.

[carmine reef]

the edb passive is better

[trim apex]

ATK is a separate multiplier that contributes to final dmg dealt, and it affects off field skills like QTE and 2S passives

[carmine reef]

"active skill" includes joint attacks from the 5th passive

does not require pressing the button

[trim apex]

Again, can't activate cubs off field

[carmine reef]

that is true

it's still more damage increase though

[trim apex]

EDB can be diluted if you bring cottie and ht with mindscape. ATK increases are more impactful

[carmine reef]

uh

every stat is diluted, you realize?

there are many less sources of edb than atk

so no atk is not more impactful

[cold walrus]

zex do you know is off field dmg and qte dmg affected by amp passive buff?

[trim apex]

So we are ignoring off field dmg a more consistent dmg buff that's available all the time is better

[carmine reef]

amp passive is onfielder only

[trim apex]

It does. It also gets affect by cottie edb within the duration

[carmine reef]

no it is not

[sick flower]

how good of an increase is atk+?

[carmine reef]

you are 0 for 2 in this convo

off field dmg is absolutely not affected by amp passive

and that atk buff on off field dmg is contributing like 0.1% total dmg

[trim apex]

will need to do some math to answer that precisely

[trim apex]

You are keeping score? Brooother this guy....

[carmine reef]

i have basic awareness of the past 5 minutes so yes

[trim apex]

naurr

you must be fun at parties

oh wait, you probably don't even go out of your room

[carmine reef]

just take the L, you don't have to try and starta fight

[sick flower]

how good of a score increase do the +90 atk on your memory resonances do? @carmine reef

[carmine reef]

it depends on the character

usually it's going to be like a 2% gain

[sick flower]

and this proves my point

[trim apex]

If you swap off when amp buff still have duration left, the character that got swapped out still benefit from that buff for that duration remaining. Of course it won't benefit from buffs from a different chara

[sick flower]

sole atk number buffs are useless

only percentage based buffs are actually useful

[trim apex]

Bro you started this, keeping score and everything, now you are trying to end it acting like the wiser? Nauur

[carmine reef]

if you're misinfoing multiple times it's relevant

[carmine reef]

and yeah sure they'll get amp buff for the remaining time left on amp buff after you swap off...assuming you rot for less than 10s, then they'll have like a 1s buff that increases their output by like 2%, for what's like 15% of their overall damage output

like be serious

[trim apex]

ATK increase contributes to one of many multipliers for final dmg calculation. It is in fact not useless

[trim apex]

It matter for Liv rot, when you swap to Ish for insta ult, Liv's super QTE benefits from that buff

[sick flower]

the actual malder says, you follow

you do not try to prove them wrong

[carmine reef]

uh what lol

you are not using liv super qte on ish

unless it's a specific ppc strat

[trim apex]

You are entitled to believe whatever man

[carmine reef]

but that is not happening in wz

[sick flower]

if you are entitled to believe whatever do not come to this channel

[mint field]

gray ravens website and 2b made me very confused about liv's build lmao

[carmine reef]

try not to rely on gray ravens website

[trim apex]

It is a viable rot, Ish start > Liv > Nana > Liv > Ish > Nana > etc.

[carmine reef]

it's wrong more often than it is right