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[formal radish]

That would mean I was 11 when I joined

[warped axle]

[peak halo]

Im 12x2

[warped axle]

unc

[formal radish]

I may not be stupid but atleast im not dumb hey

[simple dew]

gramp

[drifting cipher]

[faint monolith]

Old yeezer

[formal radish]

Oh my unc

Yo

How was it seeing movies in black and white

Was the world really colorless

Must've sucked

Good thing you guys invented color

[faint monolith]

Kids don't say unc, that's a grown up term

[formal radish]

Aw

Ok

Uncle

[simple dew]

dilf

[faint monolith]

[formal radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414910583655895124/1422458265005985824/attachment.gif

[peak halo]

I never seen a movie
My countrie was communist back then

[glass edge]

am i cooked if i missed the new Bianca and Veronica? 😄 I just came back

[pallid cypress]

what is the WZ glaciation build for wanshi?

[faint monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-true-get-this-man-a-plausible-true-plausible-get-this-man-a-false-gif-1226913354496114222

[pallid cypress]

does he stay on liston and chen?

[young badge]

yes

[faint monolith]

Kinda if you care about Affix

[formal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/black-panther-black-panther-black-panther-marvel-marvel-gif-25406660

[peak halo]

Same as ice just class skill

[steady bay]

Bianca? Nah.

[formal radish]

Kinda yeag

[glass edge]

brah

[pallid cypress]

oh ok

[glass edge]

am I super cooked? or just slightly cooked

[faint monolith]

Who taught you to use gifs, I thought toddlers couldn't type words

[formal radish]

You are moderately cooked

[deft apex]

What do they say then

[formal radish]

Googoo gagabitch

[deft apex]

You're medium-rare

[faint monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/dob-dob-dob-rizz-black-man-ha-ha-ha-gif-17039177668047803738

[deft apex]

Unless ur whel

Then u might be a little well-done

[formal radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256475891039731732/1422756722623119421/togif.gif

[deft apex]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-gif-27544204

[young badge]

but im raw

[deft apex]

Not anymore

[formal radish]

Let's change that

[faint monolith]

Kid that's a bad thumbnail, tell ur daddy to block that channel

[formal radish]

Ok

[faint monolith]

Good boy

[formal radish]

Thanks uncle

[faint monolith]

Np son

[glass edge]

gud enough for me

[carmine reef]

weirdos

[analog mango]

[crystal rune]

weirdos

[glass edge]

I will wait for rerun...

is anniversary near?

[faint monolith]

This is anni

[pallid cypress]

so what is the WZ and PPC builds for liv ?

[faint monolith]

weirdos

[dense tiger]

yo is ish giving swap in CD ?

[pallid cypress]

also what build and teamates luna wants on nihil warzone?

[deft apex]

Anni is NOW

up to bianca though

[glass edge]

oh so where is the anni banner??????

[deft apex]

Veronica gone

[pallid cypress]

specially post leap

[dense tiger]

liv

[deft apex]

Not missing much though

[glass edge]

wat the hell is this

[analog mango]

Was told to forward this here

[deft apex]

Only for burn

[carmine reef]

as long as she is sss and as long as you are NOT pairing her with lilith

[formal radish]

skibidi labubu rizz funk mango mango mango yooo this is NOT tuff in ohio sigma gyatt ohh balkan rage portuguese brush

[deft apex]

It ok she crap for phys (f2p invest)

[dense tiger]

well well well she is SS3 so i am cooked

[faint monolith]

That's huuuuuuh 2mil more than me ( I have Selena)

[deft apex]

3s alisa can compete

[carmine reef]

well nobody gets swap cd reduction at ss3 so idk what you expected

[glass edge]

wtf is this new meta

[deft apex]

(Far as I know anyway )

[faint monolith]

Game progression son

[deft apex]

Can game progress right?

I dont want wuwa-fied pgr

[glass edge]

wait what I only see Liv in selection for banner

[analog mango]

I want WuWa pgr-fied

[deft apex]

Wrong banner

[pallid cypress]

what memories lilith and ish want?

my luna is fully leaped

[faint monolith]

What's a wuwa-fied pgr

[formal radish]

I want pgr eos-fied

[glass edge]

I mean other than that, theres only arival and based

[formal radish]

Phylotree on every unit

[deft apex]

Liv

[deft apex]

Anni banner on 27th

[analog mango]

So my scores aren't great got it

[deft apex]

Idk what ur invest is

[faint monolith]

PepeOh

[analog mango]

044

[deft apex]

But u seem too whel for my bare bones knowledge of wz

[glass edge]

brah u made me scared thought it gone

[analog mango]

0 Selena
S+ LD
S+ Echo
S+ Feral

[faint monolith]

I hope Rosetta is Phylotree dark tank so I can 3S her unlike u plebs

[deft apex]

No selena? Cooked

[analog mango]

Did you not READ

It says so on the image

[glass edge]

was new Bianca a big upgrade for Dark team?

[deft apex]

I didnt

I only saw 6m and thought "next question"

[analog mango]

6m score
SSS+ R3 LD/Echo/Feral

[faint monolith]

Wher image

[deft apex]

Feral

[faint monolith]

I only see words

[analog mango]

Image

[faint monolith]

Oh glacio

[analog mango]

Random SSS(+) amp for support mems

[faint monolith]

U have Selena?

[deft apex]

Nice ragebait

Keep it up

[analog mango]

[faint monolith]

Needless to say sir

[golden merlin]

Bro gets a higher score than me without selena

[deft apex]

🪡🪡 to say sir

[calm blaze]

Who should i get sss first wata or wanshi. They're both at ss3 rn

[analog mango]

Something something power of debit card

[pallid cypress]

lilith is on davinci and guinivere and ish is on sothot and davinci

should ish go eins and gloria?

[faint monolith]

The hotter unc

[analog mango]

Yeah why would you double up on Da Vinci

[calm blaze]

Is wanshi even a unc

[pallid cypress]

what is the 6 star memory aside from eins?

guin?

its gloria, eins and who else?

[faint monolith]

No but most males are uncs so he is

[formal radish]

What a fckin 🌽🏀

[analog mango]

DV, Guin, Eins, Gloria are the most common ones

[calm blaze]

Who's the hotter unc😭

[formal radish]

Watanabe.

[faint monolith]

That depends on u

[formal radish]

It's not subjective

We can all agree it's watanabe.

[calm blaze]

No that's on you. I'm asking you

[formal radish]

Melo

You know what to say

[faint monolith]

Changyu

[pallid cypress]

@

@analog mango something like this for ish?

[formal radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256475891039731732/1422756722623119421/togif.gif

https://tenor.com/view/super-creek-umamusume-goo-goo-babies-gif-8431311458872792315

[pallid cypress]

or should it be 2 glorias and 2 sams?

[carmine reef]

haven't you been playing pgr for years

[pallid cypress]

samantha is for healers

[pallid cypress]

was this regarding me?

[carmine reef]

how are you still thinking about 4 gloria

yes

4 gloria has never been a thing

[faint monolith]

Not everyone is an active fossil

[pallid cypress]

but sam is for healers

so what should the build for tank ishmael be?

[carmine reef]

i'm pretty sure he's been playing like 3x as long as me

[formal radish]

Uhm

[carmine reef]

tankmael needs 4 soth for field

[formal radish]

I've been playing longer than zex yeah he's pretty young

He's basically my son

[carmine reef]

if it's off-ele tank then it's 4 soth 4 dv

[crystal rune]

I love children

[calm blaze]

So who? @faint monolith @formal radish

[pallid cypress]

lilith is the davinci holder

[formal radish]

I don't know mate

[carmine reef]

if for nihil then tankmael runs 4 soth 4 cottie

[pallid cypress]

so ish and luna both want field time?

[carmine reef]

yes?

[faint monolith]

Meta wise prolly wanshi cuz wata kinda old

[carmine reef]

were you thinking of ish solo

[dense tiger]

6.3 mil lightning am i cooked

[pallid cypress]

no, already showed the team im using for nihil WZ

[faint monolith]

5mil lightning am I fried?

[carmine reef]

that's not what solo means

[formal radish]

Kaamuidef diree trank tryst so dss wanshi

[ashen parcel]

Hey guys quetion is Jeanne or Bathlon better for bianca im at SSS+

[carmine reef]

solo means one person takes field time, which it seems like you were considering since you seemed surprised that luna also gets field time

[crystal rune]

19m light am I immolated?

[carmine reef]

jeanne cottie

[fresh plover]

1. Is dlt correct
2. What does this team rotation look like

[dense tiger]

invest ?

[ashen parcel]

Why jeanne and not bathlon?

[icy otter]

@nova quarry https://youtu.be/4g2vl4pxjxg?si=wRGbVhbBYhZEM3bn

It took an hour to upload

[faint monolith]

Shut up zesty whale

[carmine reef]

jeanne is her sig mem, it's on regardless

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[carmine reef]

below sss goes jeanne bath

[formal radish]

Ok goodnight everyone love you all

[ashen parcel]

ohhhhh

i see ty

[carmine reef]

sss and above goes jeanne cot to spam ults

[icy otter]

This is still very slow

But I'm trying to be better

[carmine reef]

you can do like 5 ults per swap

[faint monolith]

222 111

[formal radish]

Ok i guess nobody loves me back

[ashen parcel]

What attack is severed sea cause i dont see it on the skill list?

[dense tiger]

what did you use 4 cottie 4sig or 4 hei 4 cottie ?

[formal radish]

Aall of my self worth depends on you guys smh

[faint monolith]

Sig

[formal radish]

In ametnatlly emotionally isntsble lot teenager

[pallid cypress]

sorry its been a while since i used nihil seriously

[formal radish]

Hargh

[pallid cypress]

also i think nihil havent showed up consistently

[dense tiger]

what is your nana runing ?

[faint monolith]

Hersh hein

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[formal radish]

No I'm not

[icy otter]

Do you

[formal radish]

Sorry

Yes I do

I love you all so very much

[icy otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[faint monolith]

For fks sake someone ban this kid

[carmine reef]

blue

[dense tiger]

ok it's like me but i am 2.32.32 110 i got 6.3

[crystal rune]

Blueb

[faint monolith]

CatWater

[dense tiger]

@faint monolith did you do solo liv ?

[faint monolith]

Oh wait mb nana SS3

[carmine reef]

6.3 is nana solo score

[faint monolith]

Lifu ish SS0

[carmine reef]

or with cw

should be higher with ss3 liv

[faint monolith]

Is that a thing?

[dense tiger]

yeah you can but i tried and i got 5 mil so i would recomend under sss i guess

[faint monolith]

B-but what about nana

[dense tiger]

i know but i lost so much time because of swap cd on liv

[dense tiger]

you mean?

[stiff elm]

yo whatss vera's darkflow rot

[carmine reef]

?

wdym lost so much time

[stiff elm]

like how to trigger, hold ult?

[carmine reef]

you can keep attacking

[faint monolith]

How do you even solo with Liv? Spam short rot instead of long one?

[carmine reef]

are you doing 1 rot and then sitting on your ass or what

[carmine reef]

opposite

fast ult is an orb guzzler

[dense tiger]

what just do a 2 ping on nana for the looks of it also lost time to liv qte that i forget to no use when i am not ulting

[faint monolith]

Whutdahail

Am I guaranteed 6mil?

[dense tiger]

you spam long ult over and over

[carmine reef]

1. you can prep 2x3p on nana, or you can do quick swap on third member for lingya proc
2. liv's qte is timestopped, so you are literally NOT losing time to it

above all, knowing how to adjust your rotations based on the situation is an important skill to have in wz

[pallid cypress]

hey for warzone what memories i want for Liv?

[faint monolith]

Hard to believe u don't find urself out of orbs after like 1 minute

[dense tiger]

oh i didnt know

[pallid cypress]

Heisen or Natasha?

[faint monolith]

Maybe Lifu is actually goated after all

[carmine reef]

ss0 can already sustain it barely but ss3 can sustain it really easily

[dense tiger]

idk how to explain it but i think you needd ss3 tho

[carmine reef]

ss3 long ult gets to save 6 orbs per rot

[hexed plover]

What’s Selena’s SSS glac rotation ? On YouTube it’s not accurate cause looks like they put her on cottie set

[faint monolith]

But Lifu SS0 tho

[pallid cypress]

should this be Natasha or Heisen?

my liv is SS0

[faint monolith]

Oh well I'll try I guess

[dense tiger]

well zexous i will try and see you said just prep 2 ping on nana and swap to 3rd member for lynga

[faint monolith]

Keep Natasha until people figure it out

[dense tiger]

the hei build does more dmg

[pallid cypress]

nana knight stays the same with heisen and herschell right?

[dense tiger]

but if nanami is on hei is meh

[analog mirage]

If Liv used Heisen, what will Nanami use?

[faint monolith]

Think so

[pallid cypress]

also what build for non sig feral i should use?

[dense tiger]

4 sig 4 cottie

[pallid cypress]

im just winging it with 4 davinci and 2 guins

[analog mirage]

[faint monolith]

Da hell she gonna use then

[plain oyster]

SS0 liv needs dlt?

[faint monolith]

U have ish?

[analog mirage]

4 cottie for 3 ulti ?

[stiff elm]

how important is 1 ht?

[pallid cypress]

yeah

[dense tiger]

no you let nanami on hei and get liv on sig and cottie

[faint monolith]

Then use her instead of doggo

[dense tiger]

yeah 2 fast 1 long

[pallid cypress]

what memories?

[dense tiger]

i gave you the build that i used for 3 ult WZ

[pallid cypress]

4 davinci, 2 eins and 2 glorias?

[faint monolith]

Usual amp setup

[analog mirage]

Ok tks

[peak halo]

Ss0 liv?
If yes could u screenshot me a wz score?

[pallid cypress]

@faint monolith this is for tanks right?

[faint monolith]

that's amp

[rich dust]

I think both can run Heisen for uptime, but its a DPS loss IIRC

[pallid cypress]

oh ok thanks

[carmine reef]

both are running heisen

[faint monolith]

Tank if am not mistaken is 4 sothoth 2 Cottie and smtn

[carmine reef]

it's not a dps loss and it has nothing to do with uptime

heisen is also damage

[rich dust]

shred uptime I meant

mb

[carmine reef]

shred uptime is not a factor

[analog mirage]

yes SS0. this is my 1 tap lighting zone score, bricked twice so not very high

[carmine reef]

nanami has perma uptime anyway

[rich dust]

thats how I've always had that explained to me when slotting double 4set ele sets

Im running Natasha for now cus I did the dumb thing of hypertuning Day 1

[pallid cypress]

@faint monolith something like this?

[carmine reef]

that's not the case even on other teams where you double slot shred sets, unless you mean years back

[pallid cypress]

ish is on both amp resos

[rich dust]

I mean years back

[pallid cypress]

on her weapon

[carmine reef]

but i can't remember what team was doing that years ago

[calm blaze]

Cái del j đây bro

[rich dust]

I know phys back in alpha days did something along those line

[analog mirage]

Sao vậy bro

[calm blaze]

23 mil💀

[carmine reef]

hmm

[dense tiger]

soemthing like this

[peak halo]

I see thank u

[carmine reef]

i don't think alpha phys did that, but maybe nier did

[analog mirage]

Low score

[calm blaze]

Pay ko?

[carmine reef]

yeah but switch nanami's DLT to DD

[peak halo]

23 mid
Ppl cheese with 40m+

[calm blaze]

Does liv need her sig?

[crystal rune]

23m is like 1 zone

[dense tiger]

i might zswitch liv dlt aswell

[carmine reef]

liv needs dlt for light

[calm blaze]

If you got the balls

[peak halo]

I also seen can get 40m+ total

[carmine reef]

you can take it off for df

[analog mirage]

Mấy lão pro đánh invest liv SS, Nanami 3S phải 9m

[calm blaze]

Oh... 3S

[dense tiger]

and put GA

on her

[calm blaze]

T nghèo t chỉ có chs SS thôi

[carmine reef]

yes you could do that for df

[stiff elm]

bruh how do I trigger liv's darkflow effect

[crystal rune]

T cx nghèo chơi s+ đéo s+ cub

[carmine reef]

there's no trigger on liv, it happens automatically if you have 10 df stacks

[stiff elm]

do I need 10 stacks?

bruh

so the rot is wata -> vera -> then liv?

[carmine reef]

the rot is wata once and then vera liv back and forth

[calm blaze]

T del có signature cub của bọn n

[carmine reef]

ideally

[stiff elm]

vera and liv, so liv dbl rot?

I have ss3 so I can probably triple rot

[analog mirage]

Acc hên có con Rosseta 3S+, con đổi voucher Rosseta->mảnh rank S khác

[carmine reef]

no time to triple rot anyway cause you only do long ult in df

[calm blaze]

Mà chị ng Việt hở

[deft apex]

Nier def didnt do it i dont think

[carmine reef]

two long rots take the full timer

[stiff elm]

ok

[crystal rune]

Đoán xem

[analog mirage]

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1437547986229006538.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CutePriestess

[stiff elm]

wait so liv start?

[faint monolith]

Wait wher guin

[calm blaze]

T còn ko có Rosetta

[carmine reef]

yes

[stiff elm]

liv start -> wata -> vera -> liv -> vera etc.

[carmine reef]

yes

[rich dust]

was it laurel,vera,tenebrion?

[rich dust]

or no Luna had her own set

[carmine reef]

wouldn't have been that team either

[rich dust]

only other comp that comes to mind is when Ember was the fire DPS

[carmine reef]

ember main dps fire was basically not a team anyway

[deft apex]

Real

Fire wasn't a team until like empy

[icy otter]

Wait so

4 heis 4 cottie

?

Why does she have a whale invest personal set

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[crystal rune]

Because kuso is dumb

[icy otter]

What abt df

I don't wanna ht 2 sets

[carmine reef]

why complain, it's better for us to be less restricted

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[deft apex]

People are kinda dum idk

[pallid cypress]

oh its guin instead of eins?

[wind hemlock]

Wata build for nihil?

[icy otter]

Because if I need her sig set for df I'm gonna be mad

But I doubt it is

[crystal rune]

Bath cottie

[deft apex]

Yea its not

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1437547986229006538.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CutePriestess

[carmine reef]

nah

natasha would be even less useful in df

[icy otter]

Guys is he real

[carmine reef]

because df is more on core

[icy otter]

Wait

Don't tell me I have to resonate core on the df memories

[carmine reef]

aren't you ss

you should have been doing core reso either way

[icy otter]

No I haven't done build yet

I'm finally building her now

Dunno that or her rot

So I'm just gonna do whatever klaige did

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

1 hr guide means must be right

Ok so like is main 4pc being cottie the way to go

I'm used to cottie harmo

[rich dust]

DF is 4bath 4cottie iirc

Tho I've heard whispers of 4bath 2 cottie 2poincare

[icy otter]

Bro

I should have quit this game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1353896360579170364.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=crashingout

[rich dust]

They better start doubling the amount of hypertune mats we get

If they want me to build 2 hypertuned sets per character

[hasty badge]

what memories should I use now for SS liv?

[rich dust]

In lightning 4heisen 4cottie

Im darkflow 4bathlon 4cottie

You can harmonize 2 cottie cus its common

(Someone correct me if im spreading misinformation)

[hasty badge]

ty!

[crystal rune]

Me with 4 liv sets

[rich dust]

Cus i have a lot of harmony mats

[peak halo]

Pilot life sponsored so no simpaty

[rich dust]

Im gonna test 2 poincare vs 4cottie

See what has higher threshold

For darkflow

[hasty badge]

if I run heisen on liv, what will I run on nanami?

[rich dust]

She can still run heisen

[carmine reef]

in thise case you would want to main slot cottie and harmo something else

because harmo is cheaper to switch

[rich dust]

I was spreading misinformation

[carmine reef]

happens to the best of us

[rich dust]

[hasty badge]

I see, good thing Im slow to build things

[shut fulcrum]

What's vera and livs ss dark flow rot

[fresh plover]

Looks like i won't finish first in hero wz this time around, dude has SSS meta

[carmine reef]

8m is an ss0 score

[rich dust]

Vera is literally the same, except hold ult

[fresh plover]

Hero, not legend

[cosmic zodiac]

how to do the 2nd rot of Selena in SSS ?

[shut fulcrum]

Oh happy days

[fresh plover]

Aren't scores in hero lower by default

[rich dust]

Same for wata

Liv auto darkflows if you have 10 DF stacks

You do fast > full on her

[carmine reef]

scores in hero are lower the higher your invest is

[elder hawk]

guys this is how my darkflow team looks like i was just wondering what memories should i give to vera

[carmine reef]

for ss invest they're often similar

regardless, sss should be scoring much higher even in hero

[rich dust]

4Hervor 2cottie 2guin/ein (cant remember which lmao)

[carmine reef]

king your wata needs alphonse

[elder hawk]

okey tnx!!

[elder hawk]

for darkflow?

[carmine reef]

yes

[fresh plover]

Idk man i don't know how im supposed to do more than this
But im also not sure about the rotations for any of the three units for glaciation

[rich dust]

Rydle has a video up

[elder hawk]

so 4 alphonse 2 ein?

[rich dust]

For low invest glaciate

[carmine reef]

yes

[elder hawk]

okey tnx!!

[carmine reef]

or 2 dv

idk if it's mobs or not

what mob type is df zone rn

[cosmic zodiac]

how to do the 2nd rot of Selena in SSS ?

[icy otter]

Ok

I'm doing 4 cottie 4 bath

And 4 cottie main set

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

If this is gonna be a vera rug pull

Solon better triple his security

I thought her df rot would change from default

So far doesn't seem so

[chilly trail]

Boss

[crystal rune]

Boose

[carmine reef]

oh eins it is then

[icy otter]

Eins on who

[carmine reef]

on the poor soul who is on 5* wata

[lusty minnow]

liv still heisen set below s+?????

[rich dust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=revhePNLhY4

[crystal rune]

Some saying sss heisen and sig identical

[rich dust]

Went and found it

[icy otter]

WAIT I DONT HAVE 4 BATH FOR VERA

BRO I CANT HT 4 SETS

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[rich dust]

You can run hervor

[crystal rune]

You don’t need it

[icy otter]

Who has hervor in 2025

[crystal rune]

Build hervor

[rich dust]

Me

[icy otter]

Id still have to ht hervor

[chilly trail]

Better build 2 more cottie

[icy otter]

I'm 4 shakes 4 cottie gamer

[crystal rune]

Wdym Vera came out in 2025

[carmine reef]

hervor is necessary if you have below sss wata

[icy otter]

I have 3s

[carmine reef]

if you have sss wata you don't necessarily need to opt for hervor but it's an option

[rich dust]

For once making a mistake earlier paid off for me

[icy otter]

Bro

This is depressing

Ok light is gonna be nana zaza

[icy otter]

Mods get his ass

Ok so 10 memory ht

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[rich dust]

Doesn't she outdps liv solo if shes higher invest?

[icy otter]

They're both 2s r1

[rich dust]

Ah fair

[icy otter]

Ok we ball

Let's see

[rich dust]

My lightning is 2.322

[icy otter]

Liv 4 cottie will save me

[rich dust]

Lucky on liv pulls

[icy otter]

What does 4 poincare do

[shut fulcrum]

What's ss vera dark flow build?

[icy otter]

Is 4 poin 4 cottie a thing

[rich dust]

Who knows

[weary onyx]

should I have other memo sets for liv to use in darkflow warzone?

[icy otter]

4 nat

He got trolled

https://tenor.com/view/twd-rick-grimes-the-walking-dead-rick-grimes-devastated-gif-9247121674908962525

[shut fulcrum]

I have 4 Nat too

And I cba changing

[weary onyx]

Im lost

[edgy nexus]

What memory building for darkflow Vera SS0?

[rich dust]

Someone needs to pin the memory sets

Or tell people to scroll up lmao

[shut fulcrum]

Need the bot back fr

[rich dust]

Darkflow Resonance update.

Liv•Limpidity
SSS0 to SSS+: 4Bathlon 4Cottie
6atk/6ult
SS3 and below: 4Bathlon 4Cottie
6atk/6core

Watanabe•Epitaph
All ranks : 4DV 4Alphonse
6red/6class

Vera•Geiravor
SSS0 to SSS+: 4Guin 2Cottie 2Eins
6atk/mostly class, partially ultimate

SS3 and below: 4Hervor 2Cottie (2Guin or 2Eins)
6atk 6ultimate

Rejoice. Your hervor is finally being useful(?).

Tried forwarding this, got timed out

Dunno why

Credit to xav (he gave this to me)

[fading kestrel]

wait thats me

(i give credit to setsu)

[lusty minnow]

you fine, liv still use nats for ppc

[shut fulcrum]

Do you have to run bath or can I cope natasha for both

[rich dust]

You can cope whatever

[lusty minnow]

so liv ss3 use heisen?

[rich dust]

Min maxing only really matters if you're fighting for the two slots in legend

[shut fulcrum]

Cuz ht bath and heisen is alot...

[wind hemlock]

wym Hervor?

[shut fulcrum]

Fair

Imma just keep the same build for her then ig

[rich dust]

For vera

Not liv

[wind hemlock]

Doesn't that set only give Vera blue orbs?

[chilly trail]

Vera 3 rot, wata no field time

[wind hemlock]

[carmine reef]

top 6 lets you bounce hero/legend in 1 cycle

and is very achievable for ss invest

[keen sable]

so how much is the difference now with 4 set natasha vs heisen on liv

[spare forum]

Do you have rotation?

[hexed plover]

Xav help what’s the rot for sss Selena glaciation

[fading kestrel]

ouw

[hexed plover]

And would she use 2pc cottie

[cosmic zodiac]

how much fluctuation level effects score ?

[fading kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Cgpc7dbjs

surely the empress video is not outdated

[fading kestrel]

iirc glacio selena above ss uses 4 klen

but do not quote me on that

[hexed plover]

Empress uses 2pc cottie

[fading kestrel]

augh

[hexed plover]

Yeh

[carmine reef]

it's s+ specifically that uses 2 cot

[hexed plover]

So ig build changes

[fading kestrel]

hi zex save me. im a fraud

[hexed plover]

So what’s the rot for SSS 😭

Cause it won’t work without cottie not enough energy

[carmine reef]

idk the rot i can just tell you to use 4 klen unless you're sss+

well don't use empress rot obviously

[fading kestrel]

[carmine reef]

surely somebody has a 3s somewhere

[hexed plover]

And should I hypertune blue orb

[cosmic zodiac]

how much fluctuation level effects score ?

[carmine reef]

higher fluctuation means more hp
more hp means tankier waves (harder progression), but also means more score per wave (because more hp)

so it can go either way

it could mean worse score, or it could mean better score, just depends on how you map your run

[cosmic zodiac]

so higher fluctuation lvl is more score in lower waves ?

[ashen parcel]

is lilith worth investing for DPS or are there better options for dark?

[carmine reef]

more score in lower waves yes, but it also means more hp so if you're weak you'll hit a wall faster

[carmine reef]

lilith is main dps for most people in dark

[cosmic zodiac]

I feel like the score is so low

[weary onyx]

15th retry now because i forgot i need to do hold signature for darkflow with vera and watanabe

[cosmic zodiac]

all SSS

[ashen parcel]

I have bianca sss+ should i still invest lilith for DPS or not really?

[carmine reef]

watapak

[cosmic zodiac]

all SSS bro

[carmine reef]

your bianca is main dps then, but lilith is still sub dps

[ashen parcel]

Ok ty

[hexed plover]

If nanami is sss is she still solo dps? My Liv is ss

[ashen parcel]

is Class skill only for plasma beam?

[carmine reef]

well

[fading kestrel]

or any other environment where lilith supports
for example nihil

[carmine reef]

not necessarily

there might be other situations where you use lilith as support

[ashen parcel]

What about fire?

[carmine reef]

you wouldn't use lilith in fire

[ashen parcel]

ok ty

all I needed to know ty

[hexed plover]

[glass edge]

guys is there any other skulls source beside Phantom Pain Cage?

im soo in need of some more skulls rn or else I will be doing the new Lightning ppc boss with S5 Liv Limpidity 💀

oh sheesh just found this nice

[carmine reef]

some in topup rewards as well

[glass edge]

im like 3k away from my next milestone so nope :<

[cursive mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxQL-T3uvYo

so I saw this video
they are doing one long and 2 short rotations with liv, how do they do this, I run out of orbs and can't do the second short rotation

[fading kestrel]

tomi

[peak halo]

Sss7 bricked

[carmine reef]

fk whel

[stiff elm]

what the fk, someone actually went for sss7 but not SSS limpy

brik

[peak halo]

Sss7 is free by voucher
Sss liv not

But bricked cuz sss7 still

[stiff elm]

bro I dont even have ss6 cw

[peak halo]

Free if u whel

[stiff elm]

everything free if you whel

so technically

f2p

[peak halo]

Technicly u not buy playing the game so everyone free2play

And free to spend or not

[glass edge]

this one is not progressing 💀

just went in warzone and died once with alpha cw (it didnt increase)

[peak halo]

Clear means finish and set a score

No matter better or not

[glass edge]

so i need to do all 3 right

[peak halo]

Just 1 other

[glass edge]

oh okie ty bro

[vagrant storm]

so, it's core reso for both darkflow and lightning for limp liv ss? and it's heisen?

[peak halo]

Haisen for light
Bath for df

[muted zenith]

how much an i get with SSS Nanami R3 and SSS Liiv R3?

[vagrant storm]

i mean yeah heisen for lightning

[peak halo]

15m if 3s amp least

Max 17m

[icy otter]

Ok not bad for first time df try

I'm not used to how fast she can ping

@normal sierra is that you

[glass edge]

it didnt increase lol

so i guess i have to wait until this cycle ends

[rich dust]

Not on me @fading kestrel im throwing you into the pit

I know what it is i just dont have a vid

[fading kestrel]

why do i have to do everything

i refuse

[vagrant storm]

vera nanami and ishmael, who better to ss3?

[peak halo]

Sad than yeah need to wait
Long time ago done it so miss remember happening

[fading kestrel]

nanami > selena > ishmael > ???

[vagrant storm]

nanami then

wait maybe i should save for next s rank

well that is if all of them aren't limited

[rich dust]

all the darkflow vids I can find are high invest

[fading kestrel]

be the change you want to see in the world

[rich dust]

its mostly just doing fire rot but you hold ult on vera and watanabe

you start liv > 1 rot watanabe > 2rot vera (same as fire just hold ult lmao) >fast full rot on liv

[spare forum]

IMO, for just ss3 Ishmael. If you plan to SSS later then Nanami

[rich dust]

you can also do 2full rot on liv

[junior kelp]

does liv lightning S tier?

[rich dust]

if I record it, will you post it on your youtube?

[fading kestrel]

does liv lighting s tier indeed

[fading kestrel]

if the run isnt cringe, and you want me to?

[vagrant storm]

noted. still gonna think over since nihil is so ass

[rich dust]

Ill do my best

[peak halo]

Wdym s tier
We not ranking characters

[rich dust]

what score do I have to get for you to call me lao xav

im in hero rn

[peak halo]

If u talking about usuall game character tiers

[vagrant storm]

only obsolete char and the powercreep. no ranking here

[median spade]

not where i should be but

[spare forum]

The only reason I’m against SS3 Nanami unless you’re going for her SSS is cause if you have SSS Wata he replaces her on ignition with Dante. For lightning and Plasma you don’t really need ss3 on Nanami

[peak halo]

[vagrant storm]

yeah wata is sss already but we also don't know what kind of bs kuro will throw later so im still pondering

[fading kestrel]

nothing needs ss3
ss3 nana is just a big increase in more teams than any other unit

[peak halo]

Ss btw ss3 is 1m score incrase alone

[fading kestrel]

idk what your point is here

[peak halo]

In lightning

[spare forum]

I’d argue Hanying

Cause slash

Also Daren

[peak halo]

I also why not just go sss

[fading kestrel]

hell no

[spare forum]

Fck that btch of a unit

[peak halo]

Or be me
32.33 phys

Pwo invest just not s+

[carmine reef]

daren is a big decrease to the team

[golden merlin]

Ok I know I’ve asked a few times now but do I go for Hanying or Ish for my blue banner

https://huaxu.app/na/players/29970380/characters

I get my Nanaknight from thunderbolt soon

[carmine reef]

get nanaknight soon as in don't have her yet at all?

[golden merlin]

Ya

[carmine reef]

then get nanaknight again xd

ss3 nanami stonks

[golden merlin]

Uh
My phys team and ts teams are nonexistent

[carmine reef]

if you are missing a lot of units then ss3 ish is also a good investment

oh

[golden merlin]

Ppl have told me go for ish or hanying

[carmine reef]

i misunderstood, you don't have any of those characters at all?

if you don't have ish then get her

she's useful for patching holes in a newbie's account

[golden merlin]

Yea i dont own ish haying or nanaknight yet

[golden merlin]

I don’t actually know what holes i have in my account rn

[carmine reef]

ish can be used as a budget amp and sometimes a budget tank in any elemental team

and investing in her means you can invest in all those teams at once

[golden merlin]

Could you take a look at my huaxu?

[glass edge]

ishmael CUB, Vera Geiravor CUB, and Nanami Startrail CUB, are all of them important?

i dont think Vera's 1st ult dmg is all that important right

[vagrant storm]

ishmael's more important i think

[glass edge]

I missed out on their CUBs :<

[peak halo]

Its help some break point
But can alternatives with qte nukes

[icy otter]

232 111

3 tap

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[vagrant storm]

it's just a damage increase tho

[icy otter]

Is df rot supposed to be single liv ult

Because it's scoring higher for me

[peak halo]

[golden merlin]

Vera first ult is about 2.4x less dmg than the 2nd ult
At 2984% dmg for lvl 25 signature move

The 2nd ult does 6994% dmg

[icy otter]

Wata start > 1 vera > 1 liv > 1 wata > 2 vera repeat

If I had better eins timing could maybe hit 8m+

[muted zenith]

do we have a rot for liv in lightning and in dark flow?

[peak halo]

Liv after 3s wata how can be happened when live before

[vagrant storm]

cottie better as 2 piece or the 4 one on main slot?

[icy otter]

Corrected*

It's 12 am

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

2 vera

[glass edge]

Nanami Startrail's CUB seems very important to her, it buffs her ults

[icy otter]

1 liv 1 wata 2 vera

[icy otter]

My run was scuffed because I kept doing liv special qte during wata blaze

And it messes it up

I'll probs record this inv run for ref

[golden merlin]

Oof i need to learn df rotation

[icy otter]

It's just

The regular liv rot

Nothing changes

[peak halo]

Then get 10m

[icy otter]

10m with 232 111

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[golden merlin]

Actually i need to learn most rotations properly

And i dont know liv rotation yet i just pulled her and don’t use

[icy otter]

That's burn territory

[peak halo]

17m with 333 so 232 not that less

[icy otter]

Surely

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[peak halo]

Or maybie

[icy otter]

sss liv is nowhere near

ss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[peak halo]

Idonno

[cursive mason]

well time to give up on trying to get more points... no way in hell I can keep up with that

[golden merlin]

Ok so ignoring plasma
Im just missing hanying and nanaknight and daren
Hmm idk
Ish seems good but idk if I actually realllly need her at this point

[carmine reef]

she is main dps of nihil too

and she will also be replacing your poverty feral

and she's better as dark tank than even a proper invest daren

so yeah you really do need her

[glass edge]

even proper invest feral got replaced?

[carmine reef]

she's equal to feral assuming equal invest

but that guy's feral is S 5* so

and ish's observation chronicle gets updated with new character releases

so once new lightning amp drops, ish will be better than feral

even if you don't pull the new one

(you should still pull them ofc)

[peak halo]

Okay 7.9m which i seen on eu with 232💀

[cursive mason]

so does ishmael always copy the newest amp/tank?

[carmine reef]

yes

well for that given element

[median spade]

ish is mother fr

[carmine reef]

which is why she's bricked if you use her with lilith

because it makes her copy cockroach daren

who is an entire league behind all the other tanks

[glass edge]

oh i see but can she proc lightning debuffs with the memories when her element is Nihil??

man this Nihil stuff

[carmine reef]

the only memory that required the correct element damage type was eins, but eins was reworked last patch

eins is now all-element shred, so there is no issue

[cursive mason]

unfortunately I am really bad a cancelling veras attacks, so that makes my vera rotation much longer than my lilith and to top it all off my lilith is SSS
vera only SS
I always get better score with lilith instead 😭

no seriously how do people do that vera cancel I don't understand how to do that one

[carmine reef]

uhhhhhh what

[cyan pollen]

What memories and resos does Liv take in df

[carmine reef]

you don't really do their actual rots when they're just being supports in nihil team

also it's fine for you to use sss lilith, the drawbacks only appear when ish is ss3 or higher

ss0 ish is totally fine to use with lilith

[cursive mason]

how would that work?
I do double rotation with ishmael, then double rotation with luna
and then single rotation with lilith

if I don't do one rotation with lilith, I can't switch back to ishmael, because cooldown still going

[carmine reef]

ish does either 3 or 4 rots

luna does either 2 or 3

if 2 luna rots, then lilith does get some field time, for a few seconds

but she's not going to do any damage because it's not dark zone and she's holding support mems

so it doesn't really matter that much

in hero you might hit some breakpoints

in legend it's probably just hitting a brick wall with a hotdog

[golden merlin]

Ohhh ok ok thank you

Now i just need another 400 blue tix
I forgot to select someone and got to 60 pity
I got entropy

[icy otter]

Yea sounds about right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

That's an extra wave and a half

[peak halo]

Kinda

[icy otter]

The problem with 112 ult is somehow vera second ult is overflowing swap cd for liv

[peak halo]

[icy otter]

How is vera gonna do triple ult without hervor

And lingya

I'll just not swap to wata

[peak halo]

Donno how its will be a problem

[icy otter]

It's wasting swap cd

[peak halo]

Sss

And dlt

[icy otter]

Oh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

Nobody can hold lingya on that team

[peak halo]

Only vera if u want the 8% edb

[icy otter]

Let's see if 4 bath 4 cottie on vera is better for breakpoints over 2 cottie 2 eins

[peak halo]

But in liv will no good

[icy otter]

This is the only team where I have cubs of all chrs

[peak halo]

Felt like a whel

[glass edge]

does ishmael or feral even do any rotation in lightning team now?

assuming liv limpidity ss and ss nanaknight

[rich dust]

how does her triple ult rot work?

assuming she ends up needed DLT

[peak halo]

Tap hold tap

[carmine reef]

she needs dlt regardless

[rich dust]

what on earth am I tapping or holding

[rich dust]

double rot with leap doesnt

[peak halo]

Ult

[rich dust]

ah

[peak halo]

Sorry

[rich dust]

all good lol

you can do hold tap without DLT

I ran it for WZ last week, it was a 2 wave increase for me

gave her matrix lightning

[carmine reef]

dlt should be noticeably better than ml

[true pivot]

rorrythink

[carmine reef]

finality increases dmg based on orbs consumed, and luna shouldn't be making very good use of ml considering the first matrix proc is in base form

[rich dust]

in an ideal world, I wasnt stupid and used incandescence or the other one

[peak halo]

Matrix is good to luna

[carmine reef]

ml is also just kinda meh in wz in general

[rich dust]

ill test the numbers

next time nihil comes around

[carmine reef]

it's a non timestopped debuff

clear wave? ml gone
cutscene longer than 2s? ml gone

[peak halo]

I donno
When i change to ag the ml
Just my wave progression gone

[true pivot]

i dont remember luna's ult scaling off orbs

MeiHigh~1

[carmine reef]

finality

[rich dust]

its hold ult specifically iirc

[peak halo]

Its scaling on points
Which can get by orbs too

[carmine reef]

it's not about the gauge, it's separate

[rich dust]

I just got used to SS3 ish rot

[true pivot]

oh, this?

[rich dust]

then had to get used to the leap rot

[carmine reef]

actually i lied it is also interacting with the gauge

[shy jackal]

isn’t nihil active in wz rn

[carmine reef]

Finality: 30 Energy + Press and Hold Signature
Tears apart dimensional bounds at the cost of all present Signal Orbs to pull all enemies into the Starfall Dome, dealing Nihil DMG and triggering Time Lag Calculation. After casting this skill, gains Eclipse Points based on the number of orbs pinged, increases Crescent Points to the max limit, activates Eclipse Stance, and enters Finality.

[rich dust]

I havent checked this weeks lmao

[median spade]

it is

[true pivot]

so it doesnt scale off orbs tho, the eclipse points are capped regardless no?

[peak halo]

600 or 300 yes

[median spade]

duo elite void

[carmine reef]

well you're not pinging finality orbs or doing base form hold ba to get eclipse points if you're doing finality

so the orb consumption is how you get them

and leap increases finality hold ba dmg based on those points consumed

and finality hold ba is where all the dmg of that mode is

[rich dust]

I'll run the numbers once I'm done sending xav my totally legit darkflow run

he said he'll make me internet famous

[fading kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976268956279144458/1438502645609267261/FlameMothEater_status_1988932710514192457_498x420.gif

best i can do is unlisted video

[true pivot]

yea im getting 300 pts in hold ult even if i dont have dlt

[carmine reef]

i guess leap can make it orb neutral

[true pivot]

im confused

[real schooner]

I've heard we were gonna get alot of blue tickets this patch is that true?

[true pivot]

also rn ss0 liv is very very weird

my highest score is with double nanami starter

PheebSeesCrap

[slender scarab]

How do people do a whole ishmael rot in a split second? It takes me 2 second to do no matter how fast I try. Is it ping dependant or somethin or is it just a skill issue on my end?

[median spade]

press faster

[rich dust]

mash

which ish rotation?

SS or SS3 above?

[slender scarab]

the one with ult1>red>yellow>red>red>double dodge

[rich dust]

ok yeah SS3 above

mash

are you playing PC client or mobile?

[slender scarab]

on pc

[rich dust]

you can animation cancel the first red orb with yellow

[peak steppe]

is the Liv banner pity shared with the limited banner pity?

[rich dust]

so just plink it (slide your finger over both buttons like pressing piano keys in a row)

you can also cancel the yellow with another red

you dont need to slide a finger, you can use multiple fingers too

but you can essentially do it instantaneously

I should use piano not plink (fighting game term) sorry

[slender scarab]

also sometimes I don't get my second ult1 after I do this rotation. dos that mean I missed the dodges or pressed ult2 too early?

[rich dust]

missed a dodge

you can still recover it by using a blue ping

and then after ult 1 just not doing the first red

so it becomes blue > ult1 > dodge > hold dodge > red > dodge > ult2

it wont always work, but it lets you save a run if you only make that mistake once

[slender scarab]

I see, time to practice more. I swear doing nihil is gonna break my fingers one day. Thank you

[rich dust]

I tend to play it safe and wait for the camera to zoom in slightly

for her flick, before ulting

[fading kestrel]

yes

[rich dust]

this is me with alisa right now in glaciate

(damn you rydle for finding a new rotation for alisa)

[slender scarab]

I guess I'll stick to darkflow instead of glacio

[rich dust]

the new alisa rot is 3S only iirc, but involves using her dodge core to do hold dodge > 3p > dodge > hold attack > dodge > ult

almost everything there is cancelled in a chain

its almost as bad as ishmaels fast cancels

[young badge]

is that new WorryThonk

isnt that how its supposed to be

for 3s

[rich dust]

no clue

I only recently got 3S alisa

I was just durdling with her before lmao

and the way rydles video discussed, there was something new in there

maybe I'm just a little dumb (very likely) and there was something else in there that was new

[wind hemlock]

Does anyone have Liv lightning rotation?

[rich dust]

they'll start coming out by end of week

when the laos are done malding

[wind hemlock]

[rich dust]

but generally you wanna do 1 fast and 1 full at low invest (SS/SS3)

[wind hemlock]

1 fast 1 full?

[rich dust]

both rotations are in her character guide

[wind hemlock]

[rich dust]

in the game

if you do her tutorial

she has a long rotation and a short 1

[simple dew]

is this misinfo

[normal sierra]

watapak, that decent invest hell run still feels so slow
I can see myself giving in and getting ss3 midliv just to get this over with faster lul

[normal sierra]

who is that impostor?
I'm calling the cops, impersonating me is a federal offense!

[still moat]

wow so whel this henry joe-san

[normal sierra]

[wind hemlock]

For that she needs DLT, right?

[rich dust]

im gonna hit a quick

cus I need to go test liv out a bit more

but for 2 ults liv shouldnt need it

you can always try it in training mode

[wind hemlock]

I tried myself and she doesn't seem to have enough orbs for 1 fast 1 full in a row, at least at opener rotation

[carmine reef]

you should be doing full first

[rich dust]

oh did I flip it

i flipped it didnt I

(at myself)

[wind hemlock]

So its 1 full 1 fast

[rich dust]

yeah

[true pivot]

2.02.33

[wind hemlock]

Even then I can only do that without DLT if there's matrix, maybe I'm doing something wrong...
My rotation has been:
Swap in > hold dodge > tap ult1 > 2x 3 ping blue > 4x ping white > hold ba > tap ult 2 > 2x 3 ping yellow/red > tap ult3 > hold dodge > technically ult 4 but if there's no matrix I get short of 3 orbs

[true pivot]

this is so bricked

[rich dust]

omg yomm, hello im a big fan

[fading kestrel]

lao
okay so im assuming the earlier doomposting of "ss liv gets no fieldtime against ss3 nana" is now disprooven?

[rich dust]

you're the reason my nihil isnt bricked

[true pivot]

what

[fading kestrel]

makes guides
the guides help people
???

[keen meteor]

Omg lao pls teach me

[true pivot]

doompost?

[ripe stag]

2.132

[true pivot]

tf?

[keen meteor]

Guide me

[rich dust]

https://youtu.be/QlGgOk9lPBM?si=HRFg5Pef0mv9IcQx

[true pivot]

whut

[rich dust]

this you?

[true pivot]

no its not

[rich dust]

:O

[fading kestrel]

yes it is

[rich dust]

xav lied to me

get him

[true pivot]

wrong person

[fading kestrel]

yomm i will beat your ass

[true pivot]

anyways what doompost ss0 liv

[ripe stag]

Yomm's yt is blue archive

[true pivot]

though, i think ss0 liv is 200k more than 3s cw

[fading kestrel]

iunno folks in office were saying ss0 liv doesnt get field time against a ss3 nana
but then this is obviously not the case

[true pivot]

????

[fading kestrel]

*they were saying this back during beta

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945590488822595584.png?quality=lossless&name=rorrythink&size=48

[stray siren]

Is yommy the mommy

[fading kestrel]

:PheebStupid:

[true pivot]

well i dont know anything about beta

but ss0 liv definitely will be on the field

[ripe stag]

She has to be

[true pivot]

and nanami definitely runs class reso over ult

[fading kestrel]

and thats good enough for me

[ripe stag]

Fr?

[fading kestrel]

wHUH

[ripe stag]

That's news

[stray siren]

What if Nanami SSS

[true pivot]

6.9m ult reso
7.29 class reso

[true pivot]

vs ss0 nanami what do you think

[rich dust]

do you think reso mats and HT mats grow on phylotrees?

[stray siren]

No thoughts head empty

[true pivot]

weirdly enough

[rich dust]

the joke came to me so I had to edit it in

[true pivot]

its a double nanami starter

with a very tight zaza at the end

wait not ss0 nanami

[elfin mango]

What memories does selena run