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what invest again
Paking guards hitlag not letting me core cancel
33.13 333 ss pet
lazy to keep malding mob though
idk what else among those they got correct
can i post a pic and you tell me if they are correct>

crazy if can get 15m with that
@muted zenith wata rot
mald 13m phys 
CUB Lucia
too lao for me
I can’t even break 12 man wtf is dis
what did u end up getting for fire in eu again?
Paking core last rot full 2wice went or it was done long ago 
Couldn't finish vera ult with qte nuke
what button inputs did he even press?

14.9 but veri got 16 yesterday
apparently my QTE's were sheet

I wrote the rot up there
Up where
damn i'm washed
up there
Oh thanks
yw
rydlao
is spider2b's liv rot a good reference or do i keep waiting for dalao to produce their own rota
He couldve gotten more he had time to do full stack wata ult he had time
spider2bozo

So like 16.2-16.3

trying to find it
i just dont get what buttons this guy inpuit to get 6 stack ult this fast
felt like cheating
Not as washed as me 
is there a guide on new liv playstyle yet?
i know theres a rotation in pins but idk how to entirely play her
also just swapping in and having ult is enough to sprial me down into confusion
wat
for wata
@muted zenith
also how am i supposed to do ult spam on ppc veronica? my lucia keeps running out of steam
He always has ult on spawn in 
Lingya on Lilith?
Swap in*
mine doesnt
does anyone have ss0 selena glacio rot 🕊
Are u using wata starter?
Then u need to do a ping and then he'll ult
but i have enough blues i think
If ure swapping to him then he will have ult automatically
i cant stya in plasma for more than 1 ult
ah
but then what about 3rd rot
when you have swapped in from Luna to Wata
he still doesnt have ult
Eclipse ult?
He should
Pyroath quick ult yeah
i just need a ref video for the rota for ppc veronica
You need to be fast to generate enough energy for ult, usually 2x blue ping hold atk 1x blue and hold ult already
isnt his first rot just
start > 3 ping > swap out
Ish ->
swap in> ult > Red > yellow > red > red > dodge > dodge > ult 2 > ult 1 > red > dodge > dodge > hold dodge > red > dodge > dodge > hold dodge> ult 2 > hold dodge > ult > red > dodge > hold dodge > red > dodge > ult 2 >swap out
Luna ->
her rot > swap out
wata ->
ult > basic > hold dodge > blaze orb > blaze orb > blaze orb > ult 2 > swap out
neext time wata swaps in he does not have ult
so spam that?
Depending on your speed and orbs available, you probably can do 3 quick ults
how much of a boost is wata cub
why does this look like hell
With enough preparation (i.e., plasma warzone rotation) you can do 5 quick ults in one plasma cycle
ish into luna into wata
I think wata's swap timer isnt even up after ish rot
does lilith need to carry lingya for pyroath plasma ppc if pyroath already has dlt?
Don't think so, bug Lingya also has buffing abilities to next swap so its pretty good
The only time I see this happening is if your swap in attack with wata didn't hit anyone. It never happens to me.
Startrail SS3
Did you fully level up Wata’s 3rd leap skill to lv18?
Whats Wata's invest? kinda similar what happened to me when he is S0
should i ss cub vera or ish
My mama is kinda homeless
is ish still leader on void
I mean stronghold is a good way if you didn't do it
what memory set should i get for pianissimo SS0 Burana cottie for physical WZ and Burana Klenova for Glaciation WZ ?
Warzone yes
im not bothering with the PPC specific sets atm honestly this game is the million builds game
yor fine then
oh i just realized i never leaped him
SSS3
how do you not have enough energy?? I have enough for mine tho I can even do the fast 6 stk ult right away
i also idk find it very lame that the hypertune is linked to the memory itself and not the frame and you can't even make use of it on another character with the resos 
To can kind of if any other chr can make use of that memo you just need to reso swap 
It saves nats
Mats
Like heisen nana 4 pc was there before
Already build
Give them to liv
Just need to swap reso
Does nana take something more now
so Nana became the new Watanabe?
Should say wata become new nana
no build varies upon stat
I mean he's getting used everywhere now
Like nana was before
Am I building Luna the right way or not as Nihil DPS and how many copies should I get of her to work well?
Yes, that's her DPS build
As for ranks, she need atleast ss to work well
SS3?
No ss0
I forgot you can do this 💀
Easy because I can just get the Fragments from Pain Cage.
how important is luna SS with the new leap?
SS0 is base to play, and leap make her feel better and stronger than b4
should i get SS vera and luna?
or SS nanami and vera
Depend on your account, drop the huaxu link, so other ppl can help u. I’m gonna sleep a lit bit
Play where wind meet whole night now I need to rest 
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should i SS nanami and vera when i eventually get her?(9 pulls off)
or SS luna and nanami/vera
Discord is bugging
we won't know until beta
Looks like luna's leap wants ss3 to show a real major difference in wz lol
Of course Kamui will be S rank, what are you saying? 
I mean I already got 300k increase but ss3 would probably be major
At least luna is easier/smoother now outside of sometimes randomly just whiffing hold basic lol
do you cancel her hold dodge immediately with ult or do you let the whole animation go through?
jst ult when u get full stack
I stare at her gauge UI and ult when it converts the red gauge into numbers
Mambo you've played luna before 💀
oh, that's why I sometimes get scuffed hold ba in her tap ult I see
I have so little attachment for this game that I've almost completely forgotten the deeper parts of pgr gameplay help
i thought ss3 is just ult1 dmg buff
Leap makes her ss3 get qte nuke
She basically got caught up to the standard gen 3 attacker rank upgrades
My fingers can only remember their routine for so long
SS0 off field ticks after ult, ss3 qte nuke, sss 100% edb added to the ss0 off field ticks
Whale problems
when does her leap apply that to ss3 invest
lvl 18 of the middle skill iirc
nah it says [SSS skill name] lvl 1
aka ss3
same rank skill name but lvl 2 = sss (which is on the 3rd leap skill)
Understanding kuro UI and descriptions is its own skillset atp LMAO
And we still have to go back and forth the whole kit to find the keyword
Stuff is so unintuitive
This is still ridiculous to me like why
they need to make a clickable tab when they mention different other skills in their skill descriptions
how big of an upgrade is SSS epitaph and how important is it?
Yes please I beg
Tbh they can do it like Hades 2 in keeping the wubba lubba doo text but make it a clickable link
The annoying part is that they already do that with time lag calculation and Field Ultralimit
All they need is to just add the other relevant move names to the UI that LITERALLY ALREADY EXISTS 😭
i cant wait for the new 3s passive to buff something by 9000% and its a single sentence where it is the 4th part of a 2 phase ultimate activated by core passive with the conditions being in basic attack + orb skills
chat pls someone say i dont wanna waste my vouchers 💔
swap cd is big
Beeg
I will test the gravity if that time comes
SSS Wata > SSS Wanshi? For priority
big for fire, ignition and nihil and even zaza comps
much better even before leap
SSS him if it won't sacrifice rankups for higher priority SSS units aka Lilith, Wanshi and the next free unit
and darkflow ofc
but is it a great idea to SSS him even though he will probably he replaced soon?
I mean Wanshi without SSS is kinda sadge but Wata does have more versatility across teams in general
wait no, wanshi was better than wata before leap at 3s

but he wasnt flexible at all
with the bp shards epitaph is already close to SSS if its great i will use my vouchers for him after the reset in 2 weeks
Even if he's replaced unless the new tank copies all of SSS wata's utilities and passives, then wata will still have a place in ignition and nihil until they get new units
fire tank dilemma
Are you f2p or not? If you buy BP then absolutely sss him
i dont use him in nihil or ignition 🥀
im an obese dolphin
Then sss him lol
you will if you get him to sss 
Well he's only good for them at SSS anyway
Below sss he offers nothing of notable value to either of them
-3 swap cd is such a good qol it's much more important than personal dmg in most comps
Although if you for some reason have SSS nanami then keep in mind his SSS is less useful for your account outside of fire team
what will my nihil and ignition teams be when i get him to SSS? i currently use sss oblivion ss0 parhelion ss0 veravor for nihil and ss3 nanami ss0 aegis ss3 dante for ignition 
can we just break the old man's legs and get him out already that shred uptime is still abysmal
(i will use the blue banner for ss3 geiravor)
This + his SSS rotation speed is absurd so he's good for cooldown filling
His field randomly spawning away from a wave 
i swear i ended up landing an entire vera ult2, got to ult1, and mf sill didnt shred
Honestly I don't have enough data on dante fire team but I've seen people use him instead of nanami and abusing swap cd reduction to ping pong between dante and veronica
ill be honest my veronica sucks ass in ignition
As for void you'll just replace vera with him and carry amp resos on ishmael instead of tank reso
And you'll change rotations to adjust for cd reduction ofc
I get better scores using him in ignition instead of nanaknight but my nana was only ss0
No she doesn't lol
Are you using her right
Depends on your comps idk how she works with dante
i want burn again

my nanami is ss3 with dlt i dont really see epitaph being better than her in ignition tho
got my 19m with room for improvement too late in the week
i am itching to play it more
Btw glacio scores without sss echo are embarassing lmao I barely hit above 5m with 232 111 glacio
the fact that you can do so many different combinations shows how much better designed ignition is compared to other affixes
so how should i build my ss3 luna what memories should i get
3s nanami > 3s watanabe > ss3 nanami
Glacio fell off so hard and they keep giving it mob zones on top of that
honestly? veronica is terribly designed
have not touched
*This is the 1902w run
A little optimization to show the difference in score between this video and the max score I got last week. By the way, I'm more fond of dvc cottie on vera, so what I'm going to say won't fit the strat that the majority of glb players are using.
To achieve the 1923w score, Lucia should kill the Royal Guard at w44 (4:42) w...
4cleopatra 2cottie, and on harmo unlock cottie and eins
oh this is old
but mainly use eins for wz
yea alisa deals dmg in glacio way more than people thinks
and resos ?
who do use as 3rd member with ishmael and luna obv
yeah her glacio leap mechanics cause her glacio dps to be heavily rank-gated so lower invest echo immediately bricks the team lol
my glacio does less than my physical because my alisa is sigless ss3 
6x atk 6x ult
if you want glacio to be strong, then you make Veronica essentially wasted for physical, wtf kuso
kuro finally makes the first skippable character for lower invest players
w, very player friendly
so have we decided if sig or core is better for luna in wz yet
@buoyant hornet btw what builds do nanami and veronica use if they are with dante

teddy will save glacio trust
SSS wata > SSS Lilith > SS3 Lilith = SS3 geiravor > SS0 geiravor
SS3 geiravor it is
thanks
it also depends on ur ishmael as well
what ish rank
uh I just got her, no sig and only s4
oh lol
cause depending on which tank she copies also affects, cause daren is a pile of horse garbage that deserves to burn in hell with the awfully long amount of stay she has in this quickly moving meta
Ishmael screams when reading her observation notes and still sees scire on the list
weeeeeell
daren is eternal
teddy screams lightning
watch her be a new ele
ishmael is such an mvp in this game. no need to invest in dead units like daren, kaledio, feral, etc thanks to her
ice x glacio: refrigerator
well LMAO
that means nothing
You mean trueslash?
decryrptor is nihil and they wont believe it 💔
no i feel like teddy will have glacio affix
Rosetta looks phys 
could be fr
new teddy
lightning amplifier
glaciation support/sub dps
makes it last longer like echo
yes
and can deal some damage for it
at what cost do people stop buying memory resonance from war shop ? 2k ?
but she is still weaker than everyone in both teams
we all know kuro will give them all the most unrelated element possible anyway
nah i think she will be strong trust
we are beyond the point of making amplifiers strong
it can happen
please i need a new ice support to deal with the dogwater that is qu and wanshi
does selena use another set on glaciation?
lilith was at the borderline of acceptable and vera situation should never happen again
yes changes cottie to glaciation memories
yes only 30
"should" it forsure wont do more than selena but atleast will be better than wanshi thats what i expect
if the last amplifier is worse than hanying
the amplifier after it will for sure be worse than wanshi
worse for physical she is strong in ignition
she is strong in ignition if you genuinely sht money 
she is still strong at ss0 tho
what ignition team do you use
and what are their ranks and builds
nana vero vera
i HAVE to know
She isnt worse than hanying. It is hanying who bricks phys
4 shake 4 cottie on vero nana 4 heisen 4 cot
is mpa included in this bc number
all SS0
nanami heisen on burn is crazy
surely he meant sig cottie
yea sig cottie
i forgot the name thought it was heisen
what was the name of her sig
heisen is light shred
herschel
herschel is sig
yea herschel mb
herschell & heisen sounds kinda similar tbf
does it matter which awaken reward i select for him ? if so which one to pick
yea very
luna bricking my run smh 
holy
these never matter on any of the modern units
whel
tofulao
bro I did the whole rot and she didn't have enough energy after the hold BA
what is that
if u sure u did the rot right might be bug
i thot ur f2p why so whel now
swap in > hold ult > hold ba > no energy brick
yea def a bug then
I'm just trying to learn higher invest teams
they fun
ive had 2 runs where i swap in with luna and got 0 sp
cottie forgot to work 
okay back to the mines I guess
lemme check
that checks out
I mean my run
even more dalao
nuh uh
do y'all think that base banner will get any update for the next 12 months?
i'm thinking of getting sss knightnami

we'll get an anniversary banner in like 12 days
Update? As in reset or new characters?
Reset is every anniversary
New characters get there after 2 patches (excluding phylotree)
you can pull anyone you want from there
i'm too broke for that
Then swipe
what memo set does knightnami use if ss0 lim is in the team?
who should i ss3 if i already have ss3 nanami?
well that depends on the units you have ofcourse so you should share a screenshot of your https://huaxu.app/ and people will be able to help hopefully
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is feral even worth using ss0 if my ish is ss3? in lightning team
What's the best 2condary set for epitath rn (as for fire tank)?
Obv not
Iirc 4davinci4alphonse
Ty
Might be something different depending on your investment though
Generally should be this
i mean yea even at SSS he still use 4 alp 4 da
use all of your bc to pull the mostest strongest motivatinalistest bestest queenest all content 24553378745 trillion dmg character, sssss+ pro max plus alpha crimson weave
hello frienz ~ if I have sss luna and sss ish, who should I pick as my amp?
What rank are your tanks
for who you should phuck, i think i would go for ishmael
but to pick
wata
wait i mean as an amp in that team
unless your vera is sss, wata
You might want ishmael amp
Yes, wata amplifier 
do have support set
watch as wata turns into a big busted girl with the power of hrt and solo diffs the worthless tt monster in a tt size fight
a thing only israeligpt can generate
so like this? and give ish amp resos?
or swap places
meh sorry for ein
its meant to be cottie 4
wait you havent answered my previous question
is vera sss
nop, ss only
sorry forgot ><
ish ideally takes dlt glorious axial but uh
ur ish is r2
yea
also luna doesn't need dlt anymore
since we're in sync and mats will be scarce now
pretty sure need below 3s
+2 or 1 orbs
3s and above no need
order of best 3rd char for nihil team based on rank? (thinking abt vera vs wanshi vs wata vs lilith)
idk man i think theres a screenshot of sss luna right there
not sure tho
doesn't her hold ult do more dmg the more orbs you consume?
yeah i gotta study that, also need to remind myself of sss ish, took a short break cause i was overloaded af
it caps iirc
isnt lilith worse for ish ss3 above?
o idk
so the question is does it cap without dlt or not then
ig its time for my sss wata to see play again
- sss vera
- sss wata
- ss3 vera
- sss lillith

number 3 and 4 depend on if u have sss ish iirc
oh i know now why u pointed out the r's...i didnt update them in team x.x

for sss wata what are the memories?
4 alphonse 4 dv, red orb class skill resos
if sss luna, leader as luna
if below, ish
thats what i found through my own testing
we not getting a selector for anni?
and if ish sss?
what rewards we getting? just the 6* weapon selector?

i can try and find out hehe

thank our glorious leader, benjamin solonyahu
nanami still 4 sig 4 heisen for lightning?

probs best not to touch anything related to light/df
considering no good tests can be done till next week
benjamin solonyahu's bug dome strikes again 
or when you swap in you didnt hit the enemy, that also bricks
I am at a impasse I need to take a break from pgr but if I do now I won't have bc for the banner I will join back at... do I get liv before taking the break or leave the pity at 50/60 for a future character?
glory to the kusodf
Any tips to reach intensive PPC?
I have SS and sig of most meta characters... (SS3 for a few) and still I am not able to reach intensive battle in PPC
I do follow proper rotations and build. Do I need higher investment or more sweaty gameplay?
Here's my roster:
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/29654450/characters
P.S. I use QTE bot Ishmael if she is free - for Ice (amplify) and dark teams (tank)
I am able to reach 580K point frequently but to reach Intensive battle I need atleast 600K each
Not a malder but atleast wanted to try the Intensive mode once
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yeah
unlucky
I gotta mald for it again
luna is so annoying missing her hold ba and qte
go dalao go
like bruh
the events themselves give little rewards. the weeklies make a big impact though
what i suggest you do, if you really need to take a breather, is to just hop on to do weeklies

...haa that might make me take longer to refresh from the game, normally a month cold break would be enough but if I do that probably by jan before I feel like I WANT to play pgr no life like again
maybe feb at the latest
fek it, weekly playing it is, can I possible speed up pain cage to 1 day clear? I can't remember which day gives 9 stamina to clear everything
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its 4am and i dont wanna get flashbanged by chrome to check huaxu. can i ask if you have resos on your characters? do your amps have r2/r3 and does your tank have at least r1?
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all ss0 teams should be able to enter ib, albeit requiring some effort. i think, depending on the answer to question 1, it might be purely a skill issue. which is much better than an investment issue
saturdays and sundays give 9 stam clear. and you dont need to clear with a good score.
enter all warzone zones with a level 1 character and die. then, try hard one zone fully/until you are certain you reach the scores necessary for weeklies, then die.
for ppc, just auto clear. you need 6 clears, not 9.
that should give you all weekly bc
my characters can clear fire,dark,lightning and physical warzones easy but I don't got other elements yet
so I might have to brute force it on those weeks
thats fine; the score requirements for weeklies are super low
again, you simply need to
- press enter in warzone
- get a score high enough
for weeklies
can I clear warzone in one day too? iirc they had a mechanic where you had to do it at least twice
so I do them twice once on monday and once on friday
if you do everything right, you can get all of your weeklies all at once on saturdays/sundays in less than half an hour
- Yep, Resonance, hypteruned and some have two weapon resonances like Lilith, Ishmael and Hanying
- Hmm... yeah it very well might be a skill issue. I don't know what I m' doing wrong though - I follow rotaions, I tap orbs as fast as I can and I have tried a stage atleast 2-3 time... but 580-590K is the highest I have reached... I have reached 600K+ on old bosses from Outlier point though... btw I play on a mobile
login on weekends and proceed with these instructions
ok I'll do that then, and take a break for the rest of the week, liv is what element?
lightning and darkflow, an affix element.
she is the first non collab limited character, so please pull her and her weapon and cub
hahaha I'm f2p, the weapon is out my price range and her cub is damn sure out my price range
weapon I get, but cub too? I don't think it's possible as a f2p
for now, no. but you will slowly build up enough for them
maybe if I get lucky during this month but I don't think I will get enough for her weapon
I think you can get weapon and one copy of her easily if you had some pulls left from last patch..
I had about 10K... got her on day 1 and currently pulling her weapon
I had 12k before this patch
but normal patch only gives 6k per month right?
may i know which guides you are following? popular ones like windbell provide 600k clears iirc
also, for the record, some bosses are tougher than others. if your investment is low, then if you're lucky and get tough bosses sometimes its just impossible
....no
6k per month is crazy😂
but man those 6* weapon harmony mats are hard to come by, only got half for my next frame
they give way more should you actually clear everything
how much is it?
U should have a lot if ur clearing clash reflection each time its up
12-15k
that was before sync
this isnt including stuff like selectors and whatnot iirc
purely cards
again, this is if you clear literally everything the game throws at you
when was this? I thought you only get enough to pity every 2 months? or enough to barely guarantee the frame?
clash reflection, norman, what have you
enough to guarantee the frame is 15k
60 x 250 = 15,000
After synchronization ended, 5 days for a single pull feels crazy
No other game does that -
R99 - 1 pull every 2 day
Wuwa, Genshi, HSR, ZZZ - A bit over 1 pull every 3 days
I know weeklies do give some extra but it doesn't balance out as they have weekly, monthly and bi-weekly event that give more pull currency
Characters are guranteed but weapons are not. After playing a year with synchro only, it's kinda hard adjusting to it now... lol 😅
and you can see why we hate kuso games
for the average joe, this game is a blessing for them
omg 100% rate up for characters??? yaowee!
but if you need to pull for every character...
well
I m still happy about the 100% rate up though... would have been hell without it
lets just say benjamin solonyahu will be contacting you via missile strike
F2P can always get enough BC/event R&D cards to guarantee 1 copy of the character, and wont get screwed by 50/50
Exactly... atleast 18-24 chracters required
So it is actually 100% guaranteed
But trying to catch up quickly if ur a new or returning player? Very very expensive
lets not talk about the weapon banner

Most units need their signature, either it's damage diff or QoL and mostly both and they aren't guaranteed
Yea weapon is where they screw u. A lot of the newer units all require sig
It used to not rly be like that
I remember back in gen 1 most units were perfectly fine without it
Just get every new unit until the first unit you have gotten is powercrept and you're finally caught up as f2p 
Yeah and that's what got me into this game but they changed... I joined a bit after Lamia I think
Not to mention weapon reso lmao
So many units need dlt
To do proper rotations
Usbs are expensive as hell and consuming a whole 7500bc sig feels kinda bad
in the meta, only 4 characters dont need their signature to do their optimal rotation
- wanshi
- nanami
- alisa
- wata (post leap)
Vera Geiravor
vera needs dlt for double ult rot
only need 6 norman resets for a reso 
I m considering using the free 6* weapon selector to get a trash 6* to reso my newer units....
coz I already got Oblivion with 1 reso
That is basically what that was for
You forgot Qu, she sucked before I gave her sig and DLT
plus the dmg without her sig is so bad you shouldnt do her ult at all
pls read the title carefully
hmmm i feel like i had bigger score with ish as tank...is it possible?
Optimal rotation... okay
qu straight up cant even do her first ult without some jank
what changed post leap? apart from dark-flow I mean?
rn it's
vero needs dlt for burn wz though
yeah ik
what if i record a run and upload it
Someone said you can Ult twice with her - like Wanshi, Qu, Qu, Wanshi
I was considering it as the amp is just a QTE bot in the team.
How do people do it... there aren't enough orbs after 1 Qu rotation
and you can follow that
that would be nice
but my invest is a bit different
do you know the number connotations?
2, 2.3, 3, something like that?
crap ill explain rq
character investment number meanings
2 = ss
2.3/2.1 = ss3
3 = sss
weapon resonance meanings
5 = no signature
0 = only sig, no reso
1 = one reso, the most optimal
2 = same thing but 2 resos
3 = you get the idea
my investment for void is 32.33 132, luna ish wata
if you do the hold dodge rotation on the first one you can always get the 2nd. if you do the gamba rotation then the 2nd depends on orb rng.
le gamba
fk @normal sierra i luccsacc ok

I see.. will redo the tutorial to remember it and try


however, its 4.30 am and i kinda wanna sleep. is it ok if i record it tomorrow
@weak salmon
yeah np!

oof. for that one, its uh. hard to see via video
no dont worry i have it somewhere
oki <3
who does liv replace in meta?
Does wata leap change his rot in fire team
and who is in her team?
HAHAHAHAHAH
MY money
That spam again
cw's?
Fabio stealing my money 
no
Its more prevalent SSS, he changes starting part of fire rot, but his rot is try to get ult 2 out with 3-6 stacks
Wata start < Vera 1 rot < Pyro 1e < wata < vera 2 rot < Pyro 1e1s
how many seconds does his rotation take at SSS @gilded flint
Wata rot time Varies with how many stack you are going for and on your input speed
Less that 2sec i think was the fastestest you can ult 
With him
but the event is already done
Not this
event tab next to guide.

ahhh

massive whel
Should I nab this?
Good deal
Is her SS3 worth?
I will say skin is fire

Most drip out of all her skins

they had 0 reason to make it limited
im in love with this skin
What is Ishmael as a tank build on dark team if bianca is on bath
4 sig 4 dv
4DV 4Sothoth (for wz)
For PPC u can just run 4DV 2Eins 2Gloria
with luna SSS now, does she become main dps in void again and use her leader skill now?
So is Luna's leap changes elemental typing like the others or is it something else?
Should I use class skill by making a new soth set or can I use my already hypertuned sig one
read through thoroughly to understand what you need to build
Preferrably class skill for support build, but if ur really low on resources then yea u can keep her dps set ig
Ty, I saw this before but it was a little confusing cuz there wasn't any pictures to reference things, but I may just be slow today 
I can do class skill and keep the memory's at 1 or 45, but I can't ht
Is that worth?
Yea cause Ish isnt really doing damage here
Also his rots are fine but they are not really optimized, not the best
Icic
Maybe if someone could make a message in pins and then use discord message links to refer to all the rots in the game that could be very useful
We could make that a file in the FAQ section
Since thankfully we can actually edit those now
That would be amazing if so

Please ping me if you do! I need to go over and refine alot of my rots
Idr
Oh wait there is
Hmm looks mega outdated tho
Besides pins are a mess we really ought to clear it out
For my target research banner, who should i choose?
selena pian ss3
bianca crep ss3
luna obliv sss
Ishmael ss3
vera geir ss3
Nanami star ss3
Do you have all meta S-ranks?
Other than Scire ignore her
yes all. day one player
Startrail SS3 then
There are ones for the newer characters but I'm thinking of like a discord message saying
All team rotations
Lightnight team: #📨・meta-help message
Smth like that
Just as a easy reference to everything 
idk if you're into sweating the rotations super hard but often rots will require you to do the entire rotation within amp buff duration so
requires some skill
like fire wz vera weather double ult rot
Yeah that's the current rot im using for fire vera as well with the dodging and stuff, it's just since there's so many teams in the game sometimes I forget a small section of a certain rot that someone in chat would of gave me a while ago but I have no way of referencing it
just watch wz videos of people with your invest
but point is most of the time, they will get 2 of their main damage outputs within the amp buff
you lose a lot of damage if you're slow and amp buff runs out
That's usually what I do but sometimes it's hard to keep track of what they are doing in comparison to rot in txt format 
that won't always help
some inputs aren't visible cuz their action is canceled instantly with another
Ok, I get what you mean but it's also just not viable
if it's orb pings you can see the fadeaway if they do an ult cancel or something or you can watch the dodge meter but yea it's kind of hard
It's just an alternative because sometimes it's hard to find actual good guides on youtube
Rots are team and invest dependant, there's just no way we'd be able to cover all of them
True, ig that's the nature of the game with so many teams requiring various inputs
if you are tired of them rotas, you can always just unga bunga like me 
That's true as well 
yea that's why most people suggest just watching wz vids of your invest
you do have to generally know what's going on though to watch it and take notes
time to rewatch all the teams
I completely forgot how to play hanying after mastering both of her rot
Feels bad
gl fitting all the rots within amp buff
I didn't even know how to do that until a year playing the game
paking hanying at mob zone is just... 
Ive played for a while, issue is I stopped playing for a good while recently, some how still have all the characters besides Veronica but due to me not playing my muscle memory of what I learnt faded for a few teams
Others are ok but alot need refreshing

I mean that's fine, I just sweated for 2 hours this weekend void and fire wz and I still mess up the vera double ult and ish triple rot
triggering matrix with yellow every 2nd rot and missing ults, so fun 
Yeah vera ult is super sweaty
Sometimes I'm mid wz and then I randomly mess up my inputs and get the slowest ultimate known to man

Ish is one of the ppl I need to refresh for sure
Cuz something is going wrong with my pings where I don't have enough energy to ult
I probably should've asked if you're ss3 before sending this as a guide
This is for if you're ss3
Who should I ss3 with the blue tickets: pianissimo, solacetune, bianca, vera or ishmael?
You can go for Piano but tbh I think would save it
Assuming all future units aren't Phylotree units some of the future S-ranks might be really worth getting SS3 for compared to the those we have now
Ok, thanks. I'll do that.
Who's? I don't have Wata's 21's or Ayla's
Wata
Is Veronica worth it if I already have a invest ss3 Dante? Does she buff phys team by alot too compared to an sss alissa
shes garbage in phy
easily
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need to know what you have
I don't have ss3 vera or ish either, I do have ss3 lucia and ss3 selena and ss3 hanying
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ishmael is definitely one of the characters whos gameplay changes from ss0 - ss3+
Would u say she has the most important priority?
Cuz ig shes only on one team compared to bianca and vera
hmm...
Bianca with dark and light and vera with like up to 3 if u use her on nihul too
i cant be certain
sometimes they will have more of a certain element on zones
like recent it was an influx of burn wz
at the time vero would have helped somewhat
but now not too sure
Yeah it's hard to say
you might wanna wait out a little longer to hear the opinion from others as well
she goes from atk sig to blue sig
Ah oki
Firegod is not ded
and she pings like a 3p red at ss3
doesnt really deviate
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Check out @Setsugekwa 's video here for 4ult cottie rot guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aodY8pwQHig
0:00 Intro
0:06 SS0 no sig
0:50 SS0 sig (no dlt)
1:37 SS3 sig (no dlt)
if you compare ss0 and ss3 they both are basically the same rot
Unless you would be willing to pick up Veronica for ignition then I think it would be better for you to just save it for future characters
Only Liv won't be on it
Unless they decide to make every future character Phylotree
Oh dang
Yeah this is what I'm assuming they will do
Cuz like what is actually special about phylotree besides the fact that it screws the anniversary banner over 
I think I would play it safe and wait just to be sure
If that's what they end up doing then Im not too sure what you should do
Since you have most SS3s already
I still do think it would be best to get Veronica though for igntion
Though adimittedly gearing her now will be difficult
cw still the same memory build or need change now?
CW is replaced by new Liv
Nothing special, they are just moving to a different monetization method, which more closely resembles wuwa's
but I wanna use cw from time to time
Newer units are also seemingly way weaker at ss in comparison to past units
It would still be the same, 4Diesel 4Cottie
Only to get significantly stronger at higher investments
Harder to gear as in getting her wep and cub?
Yea it will be tougher since Liv needs to get her stuff
As well as Veronica's cub is no longer 100%
I did get her cub actually
Wait though is wepaon and cub banner even around cause of Phylotree
Which was pretty dumb cuz I didn't know if I was gonna get her
I think her wep still is
That can work in your favor
But future ppl probs not
the wep and cub count as phylotree if you click on info when you look at the banners iirc
It says this counts as a phylotree banner or whatever
Is her cub good in general or just for her
they could've just included it under the actual phylotree event tab but wcyd
For her

No I mean are they even there rn
Mycledra 
Do cubs even get passed around often? The only time I've ever used a sig cub on anyone other than the specific frame is using qu's huixu for alisa in glaciation
Yeah I'm surprised lilith does more dmg on dark then ss bianca
I dont play
ah mb I misunderstood
How should I know
Ah, is she much better then an ss3 Dante?
Like I know you kiwid but that question should be obvious
Nw, ty anyways
If liv is out, so are the banners
I have no clue how ts works
No that's not what I mean
what would you guys recommend for blue target. SS3 Ishmael or SS3 Pyroath
It would be upsetting if they don't add any of these characters to anniversary banner
Are regular weapon and cub banners still avaliable to pull on rn
You have nanami ss3?
Is my question
yes
Anniversary reset would kinda become useless by next year
Ok just wanted to make sure
What is the 2 piece for Ishmael in dark team
I'm leaning more toward ishmael
No weapon?
Nah
Rip Ish is gonna be pretty cope then
Just got her yesterday
Save it for the future
To see if any future units might get added
Surely they put some units on there
Cause other than Startrail rn there aren't really any good SS3s to go out of your way for
Normally it's 2 patch delay, so it will have up to the most recent frame 2 patches ago
except for liv cause phylotree
so next patch it should have veronica
er patch after I think?
As in hopefully newer units aren't all phylotree
Wait are we even sure that Phylotree wont be added to base banner?
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/23566775/characters
Who sig should i get? Luna or Ishmael
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That only goes up to Luna so
Oh right
based on wording on the info page of the banners, it implies it won't be in the future but who knows cause kuso games 
Luna is before Ishmael
Yeah cuz it's limited I don't think they are added to base banner
Fair enough ig
Whether they make an exception for anniversary is smth else ig
But tbh I don't really care that the wep and cub is limited
I would just be upset if all future characters aren't added to anniversary banner
I mean the standard selector thingy
yes and no dlt is fine
You can do 2 600 point double ults within amp buff
Is glacio really low this week?
where can i find SSS0 rotation 
I can send you what I'm doing but I have no idea if it's meta, I got 8m points 2.333 using ish wata luna lineup
if no DLT is fine im switching to glorious afterglow and incandescance
Nihil is back thanks to the Luna leap being the strongest leap we've seen so far, making her a true gen 3 unit, on par with the units that are being released in recent patches. She is a lot better to play now
SSS3 Oblivion - 4sig 4cottie
SSS3 Parhelion - 4sig 4cottie
SSS3 Geiravor - 4dv 2guin 2cottie
3s3
but same sht
whel ishmael skin
Btw, the phylotree banner (called nexus banner) shares pity with the regular event banner. Additionally, there is an option to select a rate up construct (obviously only liv currently), which leads to the questions: Whenever a new nexus frame is introduced, can you retroactively select previous nexus frames alongside their gear? And is it going to still be 100% or 80% like arrival?
This could possibly be very advantageous for spending players and would essentially make them "limited" availability period only whenever a non-nexus frame is introduced
No, my guess it's that it will get added
okay this is way cooler they're using the finality hold ult
Ishmael memory reso class skill or passive
I don't think there's Ishmael
can you add more yellow arrow and circle
actually blue arrows and circle works better

What is onslaught?
Ib ppc

Need to fix all of those letters later
Which 6* weapon is better to get, Watanabe or Luna?
I consider myself an artist yea

Pls don't apply for Art School
If u do, pls don't take their rejection too seriously

best dps here is vero or vera?
its for siege
I can't see the yellow arrow
oh mb I got you
Should I sss wata from ticket shop
can you add subway subfers
yea np
anytime
yes
you link subway surfers video to you readme
XD
Tempted to double reso Ishmael's sig, should I?
U f2p?
Yeh
how do i animation cancel vera's ult core
Press dodge
keep holding down basic attack the whole time, meanwhile you press dodge once the animation starts, wait like half a second, then dodge again
Does selena on glacio need 4 klenova and 4 burna
that is a viable build
Can I just use 4 cot on glacio?
no
2 cot 2 klen?
2 cot 2 klen is also a viable build
Kk ty
4 klen is preferred if you have dlt
if you don't you can do 2 cot 2 klen
4 cot doesn't really work because you only do one rot in glacio, so the 4 cot buff will fall off
is new liv sss worth it or ss is enough?
Shukra or Oblivion sign weapon?
Luna got leaped, so her meta relevancy is prolonged
While Qu got no leap, means she's dead sooner in meta
Both really benefit alot from sig wp
Up to you in the end
Chat my Pyroath is mysteriously ss4 and idk how
makes sense...
tho ngl Shukra without DLT is miserable
That's the neat part
U don't use her at all, just Wanshi solo
Thats the thing, need sig then dlt
And her leap upgrade is skipped
Thats like a death sentence
Ice is lowest scoring team too rn both wz ppc
5* shukra can still one ult rot 
But yea
bro really IS funni agree
🚬
Is this right for liv
SS3 for the big jump
SS0 if broke
~~ or just skip her and solo Nana till EoS ~~ 
Don't build for darkflow because darkflow teams aren't settled yet
only SSS+ liv can use sig + cottie in lightning warzone
I think I'll skip ss3 until we get another goat like nanami
Imagine if we got roland

Nanami storm does looks like a goat alright
There may be hope
We got Kamui after 6 yrs after all 
Chat I need help.. genuinely where am I too slow/losing time here? U can see at the end amp buff not active but idt I can physically tap any faster??
There’s no hope
are you SS3 or SS0?
SS0
Fk whels
Ss0 I just winged it
@noble zinc Halp?
I rmb nuke saying fitting 3rot in amp buff for ss0 was giga tight
If you want to use base banner selector to ss3 your ishmael I can send you a recording of my ish 3 ult rot 










