📨・meta-help

[formal garnet]

S

[carmine reef]

ss3 cw is not even justified all the time to be in the team

[zenith kernel]

4 heisen 4 cottie
Below sss+ has no Natasha

[ripe stag]

SS0 using Phantom Paincage currency

It's free

[carmine reef]

half the time you'd be better doing nana solo

[ripe stag]

Is it confirmed ?

[formal garnet]

yea but im broke on skulls

came back after a year hiatus lmao

[ripe stag]

Just Nanaknight solo then

[keen meteor]

rip

[ripe stag]

Better than SS3 cw to have onfield time

[keen sable]

will keep blue banner selector for new unit

[ripe stag]

How did you go out of Skulls when we had so many merged patches

[carmine reef]

uhhhhhh so about that......

[zenith kernel]

Yah
setsu Said that's it for Liv light

[ripe stag]

Any non-phylotree unit will be there so yea

[keen sable]

well we dont know anything about that

idc about liv

[ripe stag]

Oh then

I'll make it

[keen sable]

most boring char since ayla

[carmine reef]

they said there will be more characters in the phylotree thing

[indigo dirge]

So I'm just now seeing all this new info about Liv using Heisen over her sig set. How big of a difference is it? Is it a bug that would be fixed eventually or what?

[zenith kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[carmine reef]

and none of those characters will be in blue banner

[carmine reef]

not a bug

[keen sable]

well we dont know what unit

[carmine reef]

the only thing her sig mem does is enhance ult stacks

[keen sable]

cause right now theres not a single char thats worth for me to ss3

[carmine reef]

at low rank the ult is just not as good

[zenith kernel]

It's not a bug
The ult buff from sig set is just not that good below SSS+

Kuro has been doing this with sig sets alot lately

[noble zinc]

SSS+ or no rights

[carmine reef]

i kind of like it tbh

i like sig sets being optional or situational

it gives more flexibility and options

[simple dew]

i dont cause i have to use like 10 different sets

[zenith kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1425655735076917288/1436376548952379494/image0.gif

[carmine reef]

wouldn't be an issue if we got more than 3 fkn preset slots per character

[noble zinc]

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/table-hit-yakuza-hitting-table-walk-out-gif-15307369

[indigo dirge]

Her sig set still works for darkflow at least right?

[zenith kernel]

No

[carmine reef]

not really

[keen sable]

liv sig set is trash

[deft apex]

Watafak

[zenith kernel]

4 Bathlon as of rn

[carmine reef]

her df rot is exactly identical so it's the exact same situation

[keen sable]

failed unit

[deft apex]

Why u so mean to me 😭

[simple dew]

what set for darkflow

[carmine reef]

[simple dew]

4 bathroom 2 cottie 2 polnareff?

[carmine reef]

bathroom and polnareff

[simple dew]

[carmine reef]

that is impressive how you managed to come up with those

[muted zenith]

@keen meteor i m back

[carmine reef]

what even is polnareff

[zenith kernel]

Still in testing

[carmine reef]

or did you just keysmash

[zenith kernel]

So don't build anything yet

[simple dew]

the uhhh

[deft apex]

Its the jojo character

[keen sable]

imagine new char drops with no content to play it on

how ded a game must be to get to that point

[simple dew]

poincare

[keen sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897803025379393556/1420915274781036677/labuhbuh-4x.gif

[carmine reef]

no i know what you meant

[keen meteor]

I wrote it out for u above

[carmine reef]

but i want to know where you came up with polnareff

[simple dew]

[carmine reef]

is it just random sounds you put together

or is that a word in some language

[simple dew]

it just sounds similiar

[muted zenith]

thanks ill take a look, btw are my builds ok?

[carmine reef]

[young badge]

poneglyph

[dawn cloak]

This is all kuro's plan
To prepare for incoming Nana dv holder
She soon follow wata footstep

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-weird-pose-jojo-polnareff-gif-12670577

[formal garnet]

is ishmael worth getting if I can after limpy?

[keen meteor]

4 sig 2 cot 2 eins luna
4 sig 4 cot ish
4 sig 4 dv wata

[carmine reef]

actually would work fine since liv can hold heisen

[compact fern]

luna still not enuff dps that she use 4 cot?

[elfin mango]

how do i do shukra's attack after she does her iceberg slash with 3 stacks

[compact fern]

[carmine reef]

if you did iceberg slash with 3 stacks you should have ult energy

[muted zenith]

wait
Enis harmony on luna????

[carmine reef]

to go into ult

if you don't then you did something wrong

[dawn cloak]

Hope its not S0 shukra

[formal garnet]

is a copy of ishmael worth it after limpy?

[carmine reef]

should've had eins harmo since ages ago chief

[elfin mango]

isn't there this move where you use some quill or something

[dawn cloak]

Hold dodge?

[carmine reef]

nah that's hold dodge

[keen meteor]

she has dps she just procs eins nicely

[carmine reef]

not really used anymore outside of like mado knight lmao

[elfin mango]

shukra with sig makes her like 200x easier to use wth

[carmine reef]

shukra without sig is not even a character

[formal garnet]

guys is ishmael worth pulling for on the 70% banner. first copy

[elfin mango]

just wait for anniversary

[carmine reef]

the 70% banner is usually not worth pulling in general

that being said this arrival rotation is actually pretty good

[trim mortar]

Heisen or Sig 4 piece for liv at SS

[carmine reef]

heisen

[dawn cloak]

When you still win even if losing

[elfin mango]

if you lose who do you even lose to

[compact fern]

arrival only worth when all 3 char have good ss3

[formal garnet]

btw I thought I heard someone say philotree and event banners are shared pity?

[compact fern]

[noble zinc]

double qte missed my 1.35 noo

[carmine reef]

arrival was reworked earlier this year so that you offrate to one of the other 2 characters in the rotation

[trim mortar]

Full build? And doesn't that make it two heisen in team with nanami

[dawn cloak]

It does

[carmine reef]

and there are 2/3 good characters in that rotation, and the 3rd one is kinda brick but technically relevant

[limber yoke]

333?

[elfin mango]

so this arrival has 2 gods and 1 brick

[carmine reef]

so it's actually one of the safer arrival rotations to pull on

[elfin mango]

the true essence of gamblinh

[noble zinc]

3.33.33 333 ss pets

[limber yoke]

fk whel

[formal garnet]

limpy banner vs event banner

[dawn cloak]

4 Natasha too washed to consider below SSS
On SSS its still debatable, but we'll see next week for definitive answer

[carmine reef]

4 heis 4 cot
and yes it's double heisen but heisen is also damage so

[trim mortar]

I see what about dark flow

[noble zinc]

[dawn cloak]

Theres no debut themed banner right now
Thats probably arrival
Dont crop stuff pls bruh

[north sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[carmine reef]

tentatively 4 bath 2 cot 2 poin but no full testing yet

[muted zenith]

so this is the build?

[dawn cloak]

Same washed
4 Bathlon
Still wait for test

[carmine reef]

that is fine

(i still use 4 cot personally xd)

[trim mortar]

Dem her set really trash hmm

[elfin mango]

on my alt should i get luna on blue banner?
or selena pianissimo

[carmine reef]

you should pay 5 rc to get luna

[elfin mango]

my alt

[carmine reef]

[elfin mango]

im not paying money on my alt

[carmine reef]

it's a single us dollar but whatever you want

[elfin mango]

im poor

[muted zenith]

@keen meteor what reso do you have on each of their wep?

[trail stump]

Noway

You're cooked 😭 🙏

[vagrant storm]

heisen top or cottie?

[lofty dagger]

Should we start building already, or should we wait until next week? Are they going to fix Natasha set?

[trail stump]

Why can't I see my total recharge anymore. Only the milestones

[limber yoke]

wat fixing natasha

[keen meteor]

glorious incan matrix luna
dlt healer resos on ish
DD matrix incan on wata

[formal garnet]

?

[trim mortar]

This looks like a good dark flow set

[distant wren]

faf's acc?

[noble zinc]

not

[crystal rune]

Not

He doesn’t have access

Llgodzed

I think

[distant wren]

who then KareninaGasp~2

[crystal rune]

That’s the one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1437547986229006538.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CutePriestess

[distant wren]

oh

[indigo dirge]

So what is Liv's weapon reso now?

[noble zinc]

[limber yoke]

fk whel

[crystal rune]

Rydle pls do 20m void

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1178550658568302684.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=HyperDalaoBow

[distant wren]

3s3 ish?

[noble zinc]

Yes

[distant wren]

k i have an excuse then livrun

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

Slack

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1199423392630190191.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=madgeclap

[noble zinc]

Aniversary did like 1.4 much i rembeer

*anvir

333

[crystal rune]

Anniversary

[limber yoke]

u use vera?

[muted zenith]

thanks

[noble zinc]

Me don't use m*les

[limber yoke]

k whel

[crystal rune]

K whel

[limber yoke]

cottie vera or 4 guin

[ripe stag]

[noble zinc]

Also is ish leader better or luna 3s

[noble zinc]

4guin

[ripe stag]

Luna deals most damage

Right

?

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

She feels weak

Leader skill from her seems better tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[noble zinc]

Can vary as well so asking like for fire lucia benn better for me

[ripe stag]

I did it

[distant wren]

anniversary

[ripe stag]

FINALLY

[distant wren]

14m is wtf tho

[noble zinc]

[distant wren]

omegadalao

[crystal rune]

Time to hit 17 on 444

WorryThinkAsian

[elfin mango]

holy lag

[buoyant hornet]

So apparently they didn't actually erase the x3 weeklies when the patch dropped, just a UI bug lmao

[ripe stag]

WELCOME TO MY LIFE

[crystal rune]

Why would they

[distant wren]

which server was that? NA?

[noble zinc]

That not asked

[eager crypt]

How's Luna Performance Gap with her new Leap?

[noble zinc]

Wave 42 it was

Only remember

[distant wren]

rorrythink

[ripe stag]

Very good

[crystal rune]

rorrythink

[ripe stag]

I feel power now

[eager crypt]

Anyone has the New Rotation now With Luna's Leap?

I forgot how She works let alone what her leap adds

[fading kestrel]

check pins

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1437547986229006538.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CutePriestess

[eager crypt]

Thanks Bro i love you

[muted zenith]

@keen meteor i think i m gonna need a video description man

[crystal rune]

What the hell

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[buoyant hornet]

check pins

[ripe stag]

Easy peasy rot

[wise mango]

Do any of u have a video of liv sss rot???

[ripe stag]

Same as SS3 rot

[noble zinc]

Ye whel content def not for me

still will make

[ripe stag]

Initial rot

• swap in > hold dodge > ult > hold dodge > ult > swap out

2nd rot onwards

• swap in > hold dodge > ult > hold dodge > ult > 2x 3p > hold dodge > ult > 2x 3p blue > 4x White > hold white till slash > ult > swap out

[eager crypt]

Cool Play, Too bad i don't understand what's going on

[ripe stag]

Let me

[crystal rune]

Do whel IB and everyone will watch

[eager crypt]

You already Brother

[keen meteor]

[ripe stag]

That's SS3 Liv

Not Luna

[noble zinc]

Maybe later for now warzone more fun for me

[ripe stag]

Luna rot

• swap in + dodge > 3p + hold ult > hold ba > ult > hold dodge + tap ult > 2x 3p + dodge > ult > 3p + swap out

@eager crypt

[crystal rune]

IB fun too just ooga booga xdd

[noble zinc]

It's just pressing that same order over 10hrs

I don't like

[ripe stag]

Correct me if I'm wrong

[noble zinc]

My hand hurts

[eager crypt]

Thanks for sharing your Wisdom Brother

[crystal rune]

But when you get the score it’s so worth it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1437547986229006538.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CutePriestess

[noble zinc]

If first person then maybe or else not

So I don't bother much expect content

[eager crypt]

I still don't know how people Play effectively on Android

[crystal rune]

broke

Marko speed hax I can’t beat him

[real adder]

nanami star trail memory resonances?

[pallid cypress]

ahhh great Liv's signature set is bugged isnt it?

i already used the hypertune mats

[carmine reef]

not bugged

[pallid cypress]

or is just locked behind SS3 like Vera?

[carmine reef]

sss

also what?

[pallid cypress]

sooooo change into Heisen?

[carmine reef]

vera's sig set is not locked behind rank either

what are you on about, son

[bitter plank]

omg bruh I already spent hypetune mats on natasha

[pallid cypress]

i meant the efficiency

[carmine reef]

yeah, why do you think vera wants hervor at any rank?

hervor is only used for vera solo

[pallid cypress]

i run shakespeare on her instead

[carmine reef]

if you have swap team you don't use hervor at any rank

[pallid cypress]

everyone says is better than Hervor

[bitter plank]

How much difference does it make? Between sig and heisen liv at ss for WZ

[carmine reef]

yes. correct.

it's not at all like natasha

[pallid cypress]

so i didnt waste my hypertune materials?

[carmine reef]

which, as i said, is usable at sss, just because below that, the ult boost is not as worth

is your liv sss

[pallid cypress]

nope

SS0

thats why i was asking

[carmine reef]

then you won't be using it

[polar flame]

do I hypertune heisen or should I wait before everything’s all settled down

[pallid cypress]

guess im changing into Heisen then

[dawn cloak]

Always wait

[carmine reef]

waiting is probably a good idea

also natasha will probably still be useful for certain ppc applications

[dawn cloak]

This is sync true effect
Everyone clueless, still testing

[carmine reef]

but it won't be the general build below sss

[keen meteor]

vera's set is just bad but natasha is apparently bugged

[dawn cloak]

Reminds me when CN were running Vera 4dv guin for 2 whole months, then give verdict shes kinda skippable at SS0

[polar flame]

heisen is nice in wz thanks to more ult
I suppose ppc needs nat’s base dmg increase

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[dawn cloak]

Whats bugged may be just the EN wordings
Gotta asks how is it on CN

[carmine reef]

are you thinking about cottie

how does heisen give you more ult

[polar flame]

doesn’t heisen help with her ult? Maybe I have mixed them up

[carmine reef]

no

heisen is the lightning shred mem

[polar flame]

where is the dunced hat

[stiff elm]

where the fk is this arrow pointing

[polar flame]

area 1 🤓 ☝️

[stiff elm]

T-T

[polar flame]

does domain reconstruction also apply to QTE or I need them on field and attack for 0.2 second?

[carmine reef]

it does apply

DD is anything that does any damage regardless of field status

[polar flame]

❤️

[serene steppe]

Who should i get here

I have a free s rank weapon selector but only up to luna

[keen meteor]

just doesn't do as much dmg as heisen

[carmine reef]

that's not a bug

the effect is just not that good below sss for the same reason that bianca doesn't run cottie below sss

ult isn't the focal point until sss

[keen meteor]

tested at sss

just now

I think the ult buff isn't happening straight up

[carmine reef]

i'll test it myself later

[keen meteor]

oka

[orchid owl]

if you're missing nanami startrail, her

otherwise vera geiravor

if you have both, then pyro

if you have pyro then ishmael

[orchid owl]

if you don't want to be a spender but don't mind a dollar, then buy the 5 rc pack that gives you a free luna, you can then pick her weapon from the selector

[real adder]

is it bad if im going for ishmael even tough i dont have vera

[carmine reef]

without natasha: 19k, 68k
with natasha: 26k, 92k
@keen meteor

[orchid owl]

yes, there is a priority
ishmael's main spot is in nihil as the main dps. if you can't get her sig she is extremely gutted
while vera can perform the same without her sig (just a bit less damage)

what about startrail, have you got her already?

[real adder]

i dont have pyro team for vera

[real adder]

yes

[dawn cloak]

Also Vera key unit on two elements
While Ish is more of complementary units outside nihil (main dps in nihil)

[dawn cloak]

Vera can solo fire dps

You can kinda forget getting Pyro this late at meta tbh

[carmine reef]

if your testing seemed weird it was most likely cottie interfering with the results, mine also looked weird until i took 4cot off

[real adder]

ok il go for vera ty

[serene steppe]

Geiravor it is then

Is selena also viable

[orchid owl]

fraudissimo? she is much lower priority than vera

she has 2 teams but relies on other units in both

[serene steppe]

I have both wata and pyroath

[carmine reef]

who tf is calling selena a fraud

[serene steppe]

I kinda dont have a proper physical team

[carmine reef]

she's perfectly fine at ss0

[orchid owl]

exactly
so with her you aren't going to get too far

[keen meteor]

[zenith thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/690562580342767647/1118890603313373364/SelenaSyndrome.gif

[keen meteor]

interesting

[noble zinc]

[pine slate]

Where sss cub

[serene steppe]

Is this good enough for physical

[orchid owl]

this is outdated
mainly because of bianca

[carmine reef]

good enough if you wanna stay in backup wz forever

[keen meteor]

have u tried doing more damage

[orchid owl]

and then there is also the fact that both supports are at S

[carmine reef]

the full team is S

[orchid owl]

yeah but in bianca's case the rank doesn't even matter

[carmine reef]

yes it absolutely does

[zenith thorn]

oh yeah this is good even in legend

[carmine reef]

balter SS was literally one of the most important SS

[dawn cloak]

Incoming new units are 5 new S ranks btw
With only one A rank
RIP newbie skulls

[orchid owl]

keyword was

[carmine reef]

base S balter caps out at 40 stacks bruh

[zenith thorn]

just get sss0 balter bro

[orchid owl]

he wouldn't want to get SS balter, there are better units to prioritize

and even if he could the value is dismal

[carmine reef]

okay but like why mention the other two units in that case

he doesn't want to rank up rigor either

[orchid owl]

he could cope with those if he had selena

[carmine reef]

still wouldn't want to rank them up

rigor S is not even usable as qte bot anyway

[dawn cloak]

Use Wata as phys tank guys
4patton 4dv qte bot

[orchid owl]

nanami storm it is

[zenith thorn]

im certain he will have better scoring if he just bruteforce

[carmine reef]

yeah

S rigor doesn't even def shred on qte

[zenith thorn]

full S gen 2 team

[carmine reef]

basically the same as off ele

[zenith thorn]

literal year 3 team

[dawn cloak]

Ngl you might be scoring better using your SS0 fire team
Just bruteforce it with fire team

[zenith thorn]

im not going to lie

that's 100% a returner

[frosty loom]

yall this is the max i can do rn with SSS ishma Luna and Vera

[dawn cloak]

Yea with Ploom there, is a returnee

[carmine reef]

i'm pretty sure sss void should be getting like 10m or higher

[spiral merlin]

That is quite low

[shy jackal]

Yeah

[zenith thorn]

sss team

sub 10

isnt ss team like

[shy jackal]

Wait 3s luna and gera too?

[zenith thorn]

7m

[shy jackal]

Bruh

[zenith thorn]

or smth

[stray siren]

11

[carmine reef]

yeah

[zenith thorn]

idk

[shy jackal]

Yeah it's 7m

[zenith thorn]

crazy

[orchid owl]

with luna leap def

[shy jackal]

Full 3s should be like

11m? Or higher

[orchid owl]

hell if he has SSS vera

[carmine reef]

i'm glad all the gen 2 affix leaps are done with so that we can go back to actual good leaps again

[orchid owl]

how long were you trying for?

[shy jackal]

That reminds me I gotta go mald void since it's actually kinda fun now

[noble zinc]

With vera it's like 13+
Wata 12+

[orchid owl]

lmao that sound evil but I'm asking genuinely

[shy jackal]

8.2 with 2.33.32.3 113 is slacking

[zenith thorn]

too late they are introducing affix 2

[carmine reef]

wtf your wata only r1? fake fan

[zenith thorn]

ok toxic helper

[frosty loom]

is my rot too slow?

[frosty loom]

lowkey bad w rotations ive only been playing since hanying banner

[carmine reef]

wait what

[orchid owl]

who would be better, 3S wata R1 or SS3 geiravor R3 for nihil?
luna and ish are 3S R1, R2 respectively

[shy jackal]

I'll give him the other 2 reso later

[carmine reef]

hanying banner was like 9 months ago

i'm not sure if that's usable as an excuse tbh

[real adder]

ishmael so pretty

[frosty loom]

im on and off

[shy jackal]

later being probably never because he doesn't need them but eh

[zenith thorn]

didn't zex become a full blown good malder in like 9 months or so

[carmine reef]

i think less

[noble zinc]

Wata should be

[zenith thorn]

damn dalao

[frosty loom]

i came here to get help not get bullied omfg

[carmine reef]

i started getting competitive scores once lamia dropped

[dawn cloak]

Wait, no Luna leap yet?

[noble zinc]

Ive not tried SS3 vera still

[carmine reef]

which was ~5 months after i started playing

[noble zinc]

Feeling

[frosty loom]

yea am i doing it wrong?

[shy jackal]

You didn't leap your luna?

[dawn cloak]

Max her leap upgrade

[shy jackal]

No wonder why

[frosty loom]

alr did

[carmine reef]

wat

[shy jackal]

Wut

[zenith thorn]

bullying is the part of experience of #📨・meta-help

[noble zinc]

[zenith thorn]

are you really in #📨・meta-help if you didn't get bullied

[shy jackal]

Rotation problems and qte misuse then

[dawn cloak]

Then use the hold ult move

[carmine reef]

even if you don't use new finality, doing 2 rot with the new hold dodge is gains too

[orchid owl]

this is for ishmael

1. you press yellow first, then double red, not red yellow red red
2. after first rot you press 3 blue to get full stack cube (image)
3. after second rot, you hold dodge, then ult 1

this is for luna

1. luna rot seems dated, haven't you leaped her?

[carmine reef]

like even if you do two main sequence rots it should still be a significant gain

[frosty loom]

okok! then the guide video was misinfo . lowk struggling w leap

[shy jackal]

Yellow still kinda need to be canceled for luna right

Blue/red don't need canceling anymore since they can be instantly pinged

[elfin mango]

what team does luna run now?

[orchid owl]

idk there is literal rot in the pins, which doesn't entail cancelling anything with dodge
I tried it and it's fluid too

[elfin mango]

i have no ishmael sadly

[orchid owl]

luna and best elemental tank, best elemental amp

but without ish nihil is dead

[elfin mango]

so i gotta get ish?

[orchid owl]

preferably, but she also wants sig

[dawn cloak]

Can use your best tank and amp for now

[elfin mango]

also for teams does the support start first and then you swap to main dps

[orchid owl]

her sig gives 9 orbs
3 swap in, 6 after ult
and the effects for her observation class

[frosty loom]

no 3rd rotation?

[dawn cloak]

Doubt you'll have the skull if keep pulling new unit in short period lol

[elfin mango]

any element?

[orchid owl]

SSS ishmael is 3 rots, I was only typing out your wrong moves

[elfin mango]

instead of pull vera get ss3 luna

[frosty loom]

okok ty then ^^

[dawn cloak]

Yes except phys, preferably newest unit

[carmine reef]

is this not usable first swap cause i'm short on orbs and matrix is not even close

[orchid owl]

I can demonstrate SSS ish rot for you if you give me 1 minute
or I can write it down or both

[carmine reef]

also yellow does still get canceled...just with swap or ult1

[elfin mango]

Ok

[dawn cloak]

Try Luna Nana Vera/Lilith
Main dps output is from Luna ofc
Other are only for swapping so Luna got enough orb every swap

Luna max leap skill too

[elfin mango]

SS3 Luna instead of vera fr
brickjng my limpidity
/j

[frosty loom]

i think i got it

[orchid owl]

I'm not entirely familiar with ishmael's kit but if I'm not mistaken yellow is supposed to be cast after ult 1 because it works differently

[dawn cloak]

Lilith ez free SS0 anyway
Free SS3 if with skulls + 7 shard vouchers

[orchid owl]

and you cast it before ult 1

[frosty loom]

OOO

so 2nd rotation press yellow also

or

wha

OH

[orchid owl]

no

[dawn cloak]

Ish yellow orb duration effects is short iirc, like 4 sec, and 16 sec cooldown

[orchid owl]

1st rot is yellow red red dodge dodge

[frosty loom]

right right

[peak halo]

Cant on 2nd

[orchid owl]

and where 3rd rot

[grand jay]

So natasha is useless on SSS Liv

[carmine reef]

yellow before or after ult1 doesn't really matter

[frosty loom]

i alr know it so i didnt bother recording

[grand jay]

Literally just ran out of ht mats

[dawn cloak]

Just wait next week for proper testing

[carmine reef]

the cast is instant and the duration is timestopped

[grand jay]

YAYYYY

[orchid owl]

alright then gl

[carmine reef]

the only reason you don't do it before ult1 usually is just because it's easier that way lol, plus you can use yellow to cancel reds if you're doing ryrr

[frosty loom]

so luna leap then...

im confused w it

[orchid owl]

also I'm not even kidding
ishmael sfx skin is hard mode

the ult 2 sfx lasts longer than the actual ult

[wanton hatch]

hold dodge>hold ult>hold ba>ult>hold doge>tap ult>2x3 ping>hold ba>ult

[frosty loom]

IKKK ITS SO IRRITATING

[wanton hatch]

not much change

[frosty loom]

ty ^^

[wanton hatch]

fit that in amp time

[peak halo]

when its made thing ez
And confuse to me

[wanton hatch]

3 inputs

[serene steppe]

Built her immediately

[orchid owl]

you forgot an ult between hold ba and hold dodge

[serene steppe]

Do i need her weapon

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/fridge-dissapointed-no-food-my-excitement-for-food-is-now-gone-oh-nevermind-gif-17411460

[wanton hatch]

fixed

[orchid owl]

4 hervor only if you don't have her teammates

[wanton hatch]

Shakespeare+Cottie

[serene steppe]

I alr have

That is second mempry set

I saved it

[wanton hatch]

doing it for the love of the game huh

[orchid owl]

do you have her teammates? epitaph and pyro
or just one?

[serene steppe]

Both

[orchid owl]

ok then you should run 4 shakes 2 cottie

[frosty loom]

so that is luna rot then w leap

[serene steppe]

Do i need her weapon though

[dawn cloak]

Theres SS3 Dante tho, with shakes

[serene steppe]

I dont have wata weapon but he is ss3

[dawn cloak]

No wp then cant run shakes
Must be 4Hervor, but also no sig no dmg

[carmine reef]

no point running 4 shakes 2 cot

[serene steppe]

That is sub dps right

[carmine reef]

no sig means no dlt, no dlt means no shakes 2 rot

[wanton hatch]

no need to ping yellow, just hold dodge

[dawn cloak]

No dlt can still 2ult rot with 4 Hervor

[serene steppe]

Aight im getting her weap then

[carmine reef]

ye das why i said no point running 4 shakes 2 cot

[orchid owl]

this good?

[wanton hatch]

also no need to dodge cancel those 2x3 pings

[dawn cloak]

You already got new Liv full kit?
Or skipping her?

Vera wp is perma
Liv wp is limited, gone when patch ends

[orchid owl]

same as liv, if he can't get all of it then why bother

[wanton hatch]

does dv work better than shakes?

[serene steppe]

Im skipping liv

[dawn cloak]

Look, he got 29k bc

[orchid owl]

dunno actually

[wanton hatch]

[orchid owl]

that's why I'm asking, if anyone can weigh in

[dawn cloak]

Oh yea then sure
Build ur Vera

[real adder]

shoot me atp

[serene steppe]

Im saving for future collabs

But i can get liv rn since i have like 12k yellow tix

[orchid owl]

you would also need to guarantee her weapon which is 15k if you get unlucky and haven't offrated last time

[dawn cloak]

Yea at worst luck possible

[peak halo]

Or getting with a 10pull

[orchid owl]

it's so crazy with weapon
you can spend 2500 or 15000

[serene steppe]

Lemme try pull 10

[coarse temple]

yo chat i have a question how do i maximise or how can i improve my nihil team dmg output

[orchid owl]

bro

don't

[serene steppe]

I have 7/30 alr

[orchid owl]

[peak halo]

First get liv

[orchid owl]

be my guest

[zenith kernel]

Yeah no no 10.5

[serene steppe]

Nuh

Nanaknight carries alr

[dawn cloak]

Gacha gamers as always

[orchid owl]

1. getting the ideal rotation for your team's invest
2. getting the ideal invest for your team (SS0 R1 at least)

[zenith kernel]

It is every swap

[wanton hatch]

invest?

[zenith kernel]

Can you regmc your process?

[coarse temple]

cld i send in my huaxu? im abit stuck sorry

[dawn cloak]

Oh then if you sure, go ahead
Me skipping Liv too
Got SSS Nana as f2p

[orchid owl]

sure please

[zenith kernel]

Sss luna 1r ss cub
Sss Wata 2r SS cub
Ss3 ish 3r S cub

[serene steppe]

Mine just ss but she functions

[real adder]

if i dont have lighting dps and i have feral 21 and nanami is it worth it to get liv and her wep?

[orchid owl]

what do you guys think btw? is 4 alphonse fine or would 4 shakes be better?

[coarse temple]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/24393103/characters

[carmine reef]

it's all good i misread the beginning as 3b

however i do have a separate issue

[wanton hatch]

I need to mald more

[dawn cloak]

Alph better cuz 45% shred
Shakes only 15% shred
If you must choose between the two

[carmine reef]

sometimes it's too fast and luna swap is still 1s off

[coarse temple]

i run tank ish and luna w lilith

[real adder]

if i dont have lighting dps and i have feral 21 and nanami is it worth it to get liv and her wep?

[orchid owl]

so if possible, you want to put 1 resonance on your luna, and make it DLT

[dawn cloak]

There were nihil zaza of Ish using 4bahtlon 4cottie
Removinf sothoth

[carmine reef]

4 alph

[coarse temple]

oo yea i shld

[orchid owl]

liv is worth it only with her weapon
if you can guarantee both yea sure

[carmine reef]

but

[dawn cloak]

Makes both 4ele shred mem + dv inside the nihil team

[carmine reef]

i'm running wata 4 alph 4 shakes in void rn

[orchid owl]

what score are you getting anyway?

[real adder]

i have alot of story to do so yeah sure

[orchid owl]

no dv?

[carmine reef]

i'm skipping dv

[orchid owl]

how's that

[carmine reef]

no qte reset anyway

[orchid owl]

working out

[wanton hatch]

same

[coarse temple]

on warzone?

[carmine reef]

if i had sss ish i would run 4 dv instead

[dawn cloak]

Not trying the removing sothoth yet?

[carmine reef]

but since i don't, i think it's worth to have shred over dv

[orchid owl]

so what about me, this is better for SSS?

[carmine reef]

hmm

[frosty loom]

WHAT AM I DOIG WROG AAAAAAA

[orchid owl]

but DV does have a cooldown tho even if QTE resets no?

[wanton hatch]

test it out

[carmine reef]

i guess i could figure out a rot to do without soth

[dawn cloak]

Its increasing, a progress at least

[orchid owl]

I guess I'll try this and see how it goes

[carmine reef]

oh i didn't see sss ish, yeah probably better for you to run dv

[orchid owl]

I got 5.6 mil last patch no leap SS0 luna SS3 geira

[zenith kernel]

Eh, that shouldn't be the case
What's your order of rotation?

[dawn cloak]

Dv 20% atk buff is pretty big yeah

[carmine reef]

wata start > ish luna wata

[zenith kernel]

Even at 8s per rot my Luna doesn't brick cd

[orchid owl]

ok wait

is the cooldown for the QTE triggering and not the buff?

[carmine reef]

there is a cooldown for the qte triggering

but it's not written there

[orchid owl]

so if I can get both characters on-field, I still get +20%

[carmine reef]

but you will notice it if you play enough

[zenith kernel]

Are Wata and Luna cutting into eachother's time?

[orchid owl]

no no it is, that's why I'm asking

[carmine reef]

it's not

[orchid owl]

if the 8s cooldown is for the buff too or just the QTE

[dawn cloak]

Qte button cooldown in itself already 8 sec anyway

[carmine reef]

it's not 8s

[coarse temple]

i dmed my warzone score...

[wanton hatch]

qte

[orchid owl]

oh sh

[wanton hatch]

as long as there are 3 people on field you get the 20% atk

[carmine reef]

if you use another qte resetting mechanism like sss gen3 amp or special things in roguelite modes you will see

[dawn cloak]

Wait, you mean this was the reason nuke were complaining about dv bug?
Where the dv qte reset not happening?

[carmine reef]

there is a small internal cd for double dv resetting

[carmine reef]

like for example when i played my cw nana lilith lightning team

i use cw qte on lilith field time and then swap to nana which resets cw qte on account of lilith 3s passive

[serene steppe]

Good enough?

[carmine reef]

but if you use cw qte immediately there, lilith dv will not reset cw

you have to wait like half a second to hit dv

[icy otter]

Yes this happens quite a lot to me

I thought it depended on the qte

Maybe it was too long

[carmine reef]

yes it's a small internal cd that is not listed in the description

[mighty dock]

what's liv's build?

[icy otter]

Like dante and vergil qtes are instant

[carmine reef]

it is related to the qte

because it's related to the downtime on the character's field time

[icy otter]

Ohh

Well lilick qte always trolled me on luna nana zaza

[carmine reef]

it's also why you can actually get 4 qtes out if you put dv on someone with a really fast qte

[orchid owl]

yeah I am familiar with this, sorry for not understanding

[carmine reef]

because they will dv on themselves twice

[icy otter]

What the hell

[orchid owl]

I didn't know that

[icy otter]

Do you have vid

[dawn cloak]

Qu qte yeah?

[mighty dock]

wait question if liv is on heisen now what does nanami run

[carmine reef]

i discovered this myself a while ago and yes i do have a vid

yes it was what i found on qu

let me go grab it

[dawn cloak]

Got 3x qu qte one time accidentally

[carmine reef]

https://youtu.be/r2x_Nm3xdjY?si=a5csiUW1ZTJT45GS

[dawn cloak]

Now we know why kuro wont give Qu leap

Imagine Qu nuke qte

[carmine reef]

unchanged

you will just have two heisens on the team

[mighty dock]

makes sense

[lusty minnow]

Mine leg queen

[mighty dock]

thanks

is it another bianca case where she cant outdamage nanami

[carmine reef]

it's another bianca case in which she can...at sss

[mighty dock]

yep

[icy otter]

Wait

[mighty dock]

i mean thats fine

[dawn cloak]

At SS0 yes
Kuro been bricking new attacker at SS0

[mighty dock]

nanami is just too overtuned

[icy otter]

3s dante on dv meta

[lusty minnow]

Like 3S Liv out dmg 3S nanami?

[icy otter]

Zexlao cook

[carmine reef]

yea 3s liv outdamages 3s nana

3s liv is unethical though

imagine timestop locked behind 3s passive

[lusty minnow]

[mighty dock]

she doesnt have timestop?

[carmine reef]

she does, but she gets more

[mighty dock]

ah what the hell

thats weird

[carmine reef]

at 3s the core moves are timestopped

[noble zinc]

Solo does like 13+ with SS nana and ss ish

[mighty dock]

oh thats broken

at least ion have to run alpha anymore or solo nanami

[bitter plank]

wait if she can't outdamage nanami
what will the rot be

[carmine reef]

you will still rot with her

you just won't change leader skill or nana resos

[lusty minnow]

Hmm should I 3s Liv

Alr 3s nanami

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

U not late yet

[lusty minnow]

Wait 3S Liv nana need to run class skill?

[bitter plank]

still 2 ult rot for both units?

[carmine reef]

yes

[noble zinc]

Cn peeps be hiding everything or never went seeing their reso

Just invest

[real adder]

ur spending right?

[carmine reef]

nana unchanged
liv rot can depend on situation

but that's the same regardless of rank, you adjust based on situation

[dawn cloak]

If its like half a second cooldown
I think thats more of engine limitation, about framerate and stuff affecting ingame mechanics
Rather than properly internal qte reset cooldown

[peak halo]

Also how ur nihil?

[noble zinc]

Which invest?

[lusty minnow]

A small dolphin

[bitter plank]

okay

[real adder]

how much does a 3 s cost

[peak halo]

Ohh tru
Multiple acc
Where wata sss ish ss3
I forgot lunas ss6?

[lusty minnow]

52,500 bc max pity

[noble zinc]

3.33.33(vera) tapped 13mil
2.332(wata) 7.76

Ss3 not tired that 10mik seems with 3s luna

[real adder]

whats that in money

[lusty minnow]

Like 200-300$ depend on each patch pack sale and luck

[peak halo]

I get 1 tap 7.9 with
But assum can go 11m with 2.333 ish vera

[stray siren]

Lmao real?

[lusty minnow]

7.76 your 3s is Ishmael?

[carmine reef]

yeah sure, either way my point stands, it's not an 8s cd

[noble zinc]

It's always been like that leaderboard rankers profile always stays hiddenmkstly

for warzone runs rarely people reveal everything

It's just invest reso and cub that's it

Sometimes memo
I had to go all delulu last fire cuz of that only to know he was using ein on vera

[dawn cloak]

Yeah it was a very different stuff
8 sec was me thinking its the qte button natural cooldown
You reveal something new there which many doesnt know yet

[stray siren]

It seems they don't want to show their Zazas

[lusty minnow]

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

Wata as tank that 2 is ish

[noble zinc]

Ppc they do show warzone idk why

[slender scarab]

does selena's wz rotation change in ss3 in either glacio or physical?

[lusty minnow]

I see, so mine 2.332.3 team can do much higher than 6.5m. But I’m too lazy to mald

[noble zinc]

SS0 ish ss3 luna 3s wata

[lusty minnow]

[peak halo]

Kinda me too
Im also 1 hours and can mald
I want go 10m before activate lv2 sss passive on luna

Ss10 luna is fun

[lusty minnow]

I gotta wait 2 more weeks to 3S Luna

[dawn cloak]

Prolly cuz possible to be stolen and them being demoted right away

PPC dont got demotion stuff, its more fair in competition

[noble zinc]

makes sense yea legend seems competitive there unless last days you login much i hear

I spent like 12hrs then finally got it

It's just not possible to do that for every run

[young badge]

in cn people be figtting to retain hero

[noble zinc]

[young badge]

wth u whel cn

[noble zinc]

no

[lusty minnow]

I’m just chill on global hero

[orchid owl]

7.5 mil on nihil

bro I'm a fraud

[peak halo]

More likely fight promotion
More good peeps with skills and good invest

[lusty minnow]

Why?

3s ish?

[orchid owl]

333 112 111 invest

with epitaph

[lusty minnow]

… you’re fraud

[noble zinc]

[young badge]

fight retain also cuz everyone be 30m on hero

[orchid owl]

time for the dalaos to chime in on my stupidity

[noble zinc]

https://youtu.be/L50zmdTTh3M?si=hGjmKE-FlvT2zT4J

[orchid owl]

hey hey 213

[noble zinc]

[peak halo]

So leader also no dead

[noble zinc]

No excuses

Bald

[lusty minnow]

Come on at least r2 ish

[noble zinc]

[lusty minnow]

Mine ish is ss3 r3

[orchid owl]

my ish is r2

she is amp in the team because of wata

that's why I put the 2 at the end

[noble zinc]

11 can aim

[karmic anvil]

[young badge]

surely 3 extra reso doesnt make that 5m gap

[karmic anvil]

chill

[orchid owl]

how

[peak halo]

Bald more
Even my sht 1tap 7.9 with ss3 luna

[karmic anvil]

[orchid owl]

not 5 mil ofc

[karmic anvil]

[lusty minnow]

Mayb u using qte nuke on void shield

[noble zinc]

Some time ago just one amp reso on vera gave me 1mil diff

[orchid owl]

[noble zinc]

Yea later waves

Single waves

Tanks too much score

[young badge]

why this name so black i cant see sht

[peak halo]

Get same result with that
Just changing 1 reso

[noble zinc]

if unlucky -3waves stright bric

[young badge]

u in hero?

[noble zinc]

Main acc yes

[young badge]

how the fire lookin

[stray siren]

What would happen if we nominated Nuke, Zex, Rydle, and Yomm to receive a CN beta access account with SS characters?

Just thinking

[noble zinc]

idk I one tapped

8mik smthing

[formal radish]

Whoever has more free time wins

[noble zinc]

Navily got 10+

Seems good

SS0 vera -5avrh can take

[lusty minnow]

Fk I hate fire, I dont want to do it

[stray siren]

Yeah, I think it would be good if all four of them received it, to try out new characters

[orchid owl]

bro

the nihil wz took more than 5 minutes

I can't clip the entire thing

[formal radish]

Battle of the Laos

Depends on how much time

[lusty minnow]

Cause ish mommy just time stop so much

Match with the new coat ngl

[spiral merlin]

Over 6min for me

[karmic anvil]

nuke wins hes free guy in college

[noble zinc]

[dawn cloak]

@frosty loom mayhaps this is useful for you

[nova quarry]

whats leap luna rotation

[lusty minnow]

I feel like every time I did ish mommy rots always finish at 8s, so I have to swap for wata little bit

[dawn cloak]

PGR college graduate

[karmic anvil]

||Not sure about him graduation irl tho||

[dawn cloak]

[orchid owl]

yeah I think mine was 6-7 minutes too bc the recording starts at wave 12

[dawn cloak]

~~ eternal student ~~

[icy otter]

Yea 4 stack ult

1.5s max

[karmic anvil]

yes my student

[lusty minnow]

You know you doing too fast, can’t slow down, but you want more faster

[real adder]

who do i bind

[lusty minnow]

Who r u building?

[zenith kernel]

Eu bricked compared to sea for fire
I got 9.66 with almost perfect wave control

[karmic anvil]

(was jk, im pretty sure nuke is topper of his batch)

[real adder]

bianca its her sig

[zenith kernel]

Bathlon
4 sig 2 Bathlon 2 Bathlon harmo

[lusty minnow]

Dark Bianca? Sh1t she have so many diff build

[carmine reef]

i am not on the same level as those 3, not nowadays

[lusty minnow]

Bind bathlon is safe option

[ripe stag]

So how's Luna leap treating y'all

[carmine reef]

washed

[zenith kernel]

Strong as sht

[karmic anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-washed-my-goat-washed-lightning-mcqueen-mcqueen-gif-13084113942314445304

[lusty minnow]

Rots ez and fast

[ripe stag]

In a good or bad way

[zenith kernel]

Very good

Her qte nuke is the highlight for me

Sometimes i swap into Wata on a fresh shield wave and her off field deletes the entire shield

[dawn cloak]

Cant wait to see no nihil warzone again till next patch

[zenith kernel]

[noble zinc]

*was no more

[lusty minnow]

Will hanying and wanshi getting leap

[zenith kernel]

I'd rather they delete Wanshi tbh.

[zenith kernel]

Pilot me 10m lao

[lusty minnow]

Why??? What my boi do to u huh?

[karmic anvil]

you've already surpassed ranks ?

[zenith kernel]

Everything

He did everything

[stray siren]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[lusty minnow]

Oh fk

[real adder]

star trail memory resonaces?

[zenith kernel]

Heisen light
Cottie Burn

[lusty minnow]

Ult at bottom

[zenith kernel]

Oh wait

I'm illiterate

[zenith kernel]

Uh, class for plasma if anyone still plays that🥀

[dawn cloak]

Lucia plasmaoath

[lusty minnow]

Plasma now is waste

[zenith kernel]

Legit all my entro affix options are stronger than plasma rn

[zenith kernel]

And i have 2.133 Plasma..

[lusty minnow]

Leap oath when?

[zenith kernel]

[real adder]

at top?

[dawn cloak]

Replaced maybe
Fire team always on fire
Never touching bottom scores

[zenith kernel]

Any Attack +15

[lusty minnow]

For being strongest team in game down to below

[orchid owl]

looks like I'm just slow

[lusty minnow]

Another Lee fire dps

[carmine reef]

plasma will never be the worst team because phys will always be the worst team

[real adder]

is ult sig?

[orchid owl]

the new luna is new to me

[noble zinc]

[lusty minnow]

Its ez to use ngl

[orchid owl]

also what's the epitaph rot

[lusty minnow]

Ez than b4

[zenith kernel]

Yep

[orchid owl]

is that blaze > attack > blaze > hold dodge attack > 3 blaze > ult?

since you spawn with a boolet and get 1 blaze orb

[carmine reef]

what the hell kind of rot is this

[zenith kernel]

Uh
Is this 5-6 stack rot?
If so then yeah

[serene steppe]

What used to be fire team support before vera

[carmine reef]

that is not the 5-6 stack rot

[lusty minnow]

3S full team you start with Luna??

[zenith kernel]

Vera

[lusty minnow]

Liv

[lusty minnow]

No I mean swap to

[carmine reef]

you can 6 stack wata with just ult1 basic hold dodge 4blaze ult2

[zenith kernel]

Vera start->ish 3 rot-> Luna

[icy otter]

Swap ult1 buff hold dodge hold blaze > all blaze > ult 2

Is 6 stack ult

Yea

[orchid owl]

idk that's what I saw in the vid

[icy otter]

I mean if ur tryna fill downtime

I guess

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[orchid owl]

maybe my eyes missed something

[carmine reef]

if you want to fill downtime you just let last blaze play out

[nova quarry]

does she need reso or nah

[carmine reef]

but that shouldn't ever be needed to that point

[zenith kernel]

If you're moving fast enough you should always have enough downtime to 6 stack wata on both fire and void

[orchid owl]

I'm just interested in how the 6 stack works

or if I need that

[carmine reef]

just 4 blaze

leap gives extra 2 stacks

[icy otter]

The pre Luna leap rot nuke showed me

With 3s wata

Did a 3/4 stack ult

1s execution

[ripe stag]

Deadline Timing

[zenith kernel]

Dlt below sss
Sss doesn't need reso

[icy otter]

Idk what leap changes

[carmine reef]

sure you could do that but there's no reason to now

[icy otter]

But 6 stack sounds nice

[nova quarry]

oh im getting sss thru shards anyways

[ripe stag]

Makes her rot faster

And hit harder

[carmine reef]

it was for placing ult field down

[icy otter]

Ok so more time for wata

Good to know

[ripe stag]

I'll save
If you can, save vouchers

[carmine reef]

but post leap field is on qte

[zenith kernel]

Even pre Luna i was doing 6 stacks on wata and still ending with 3 rot Ish

[lusty minnow]

How do u do 6 stack ult wata fast when u only have 1-3s down time???

[icy otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[dawn cloak]

@noble zinc just read from here onwards until Qu video from Zex

[carmine reef]

3 seconds is more than enough

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif?quality=lossless&name=dalao&size=48

[zenith kernel]

Still worth getting since you'll switch it to glorious afterglow at 3s

[icy otter]

You need at max 2s for 6 stack

[nova quarry]

nahhh im good at saving, ill just nab 3s luna like next month

[zenith kernel]

Uh
Is this ss0 ish?

Cause with ss3 i have 4s to work with easily enough

[icy otter]

Yes we be poor gaming

My void is 232 111

[lusty minnow]

Ss3 bout to 3s at anniversary

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[ripe stag]

Yea you'll need to save a good chunk for next patch

[zenith kernel]

Poverty aya

[icy otter]

Brother

It's just starting

I'm gonna be a 222 555 gamer

[carmine reef]

that's all there is to 6 stack

[zenith kernel]

Then you should def have enough time
Is your ish rot 8-9s?
Luna and ish rots are both like 8-9s if you're moving at break neck speed

[dawn cloak]

Spending these much for 20 shards per month, 16k voucher per month

[zenith kernel]

[lusty minnow]

Ye I’m always have down time, but idk how to do fast wata ult that why my score at 6.5

[carmine reef]

well i doubt the wata is the biggest reason for score deficit tbh 🗿

[nova quarry]

i got the 5rc pack so it should be finee

[icy otter]

Oh wait that notation I gave was wrong

The basic was missing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/856727632728293416.webp?size=40&animated=true

[lusty minnow]

[orchid owl]

blaze orb on parry? or what was that

I saw you grapple the enemy then blaze orb

[zenith kernel]

Ah here

[zenith kernel]

.

[carmine reef]

btw @zenith kernel my score did go up after new rot but i do think i'm actually reso cucked from getting close to that score because i'm constantly seeing waves on like 1% hp on both ish and luna

[carmine reef]

ye

[zenith kernel]

But i do 3p before the rest cause sometimes i get forced matrix

[orchid owl]

[carmine reef]

yeah i also do 3p before hold dodge and matrix ping on swap out so that i can trigger lingya

but that's not strictly necessary for 6 stack ult which was the topic

[zenith kernel]

Try delaying ish dodges sometimes
It helps with damage though if not fast enough at the same time you brick

There's also double dodge before hold dodge to create more stacks

[orchid owl]

what decides if selena wants normal ult or blue flower ult?

[zenith kernel]

[carmine reef]

flower ult is more damage at cost of more time

[lusty minnow]

Does hypertune effect score?? I just remember I forgot ht wata alph and shake set

[carmine reef]

decide if the wave needs that higher damage at the cost of slower team rot

well i have ss0 selena so i don't have the details cause my invest is too poor for flower ult in general

[dawn cloak]

@noble zinc already tagged btw
I hope its working for your phone

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/muerto-gif-16250174877271582365

[lusty minnow]

Idk, I did flower first rot and fast ult 2nd rot ss3 btw