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daren gonna be new frame and become daren again
She will release on CNY patch btw
Will she be limited too hmmmm

probably because of pylothe tree
Fomo on a unit with mid role 
I mean do u have the means to achieve SS3 as a pleb 

for Limpidity, do we get for the memory set? and then what resonance do we slap on?
Especially since limited aren't in blue banner
check pin
Yesyesyes she will 
Wait for next week for more definitive answer
For now below SSS seems using 4Heisen 4Cottie better
SSS still debatable
No actual warzone to test the real battle difference
Horse will be the redeemer if all these fraud attackers
At S0 
Sigless

Just like Nana 
dream on
Am already dreaming 
How much worse is Liv sig memory vs Heisen at SS0?
Wait next week
no definitive answers rn
Just safe yourself the hassle and wait next week
For proper warzone and ppc
guys that the meta plasma team ?
Nana instead of Darenina
For meta
Oh my scire 
The only kawaii tsundere idoru 
Daren lmaooo
well my liv is already built, I just hope the diff is not too big
like this ?
Ye
Yea dont waste the HT mats

what the rotation ?
who should i pick between pyroath and Epitaph?I already had Geiravor and her wp 
Tho for abit more nitpick, place Pyro in yellow, and Lilith in red
Might be useful one day when you mald
So, Whose SS3 is the most valuble of all, Aside from the leaped chars. Don't know on who to use my selector.
Also I got Alpha SSS on the blue banner (pulled her twice in a row randomly) for testing purporses, with her SSS nanami still the leader?
Luna ss3 is big after leap
Star rail then
but how i roteted ? i start with nanami swap to lili do the plasma rotation and use lucai for dps
even with Liv? Cause the team should skyrocket now no?
Which is better to prioritize? Amplifier’s weapon or Tank’s weapon
luna sss is even more massive
Liv is the same at both ss and
Ss3
it depends on who that amp and tank is
Only massive dmg jump is sss
Ss10 luna
ss3 is a monstrous dmg leap tho?
Imma say veronica and wanshi
Not big enough 
Sss it is
fk whelhaxx
what's the recommendation for blue ticket selector? any help appreciated
Why no entropy
Yes like that
The optimal rotation for plasma is so many I dunno what to teach to newbie 
What content are you doing plasmabeam anyway? PPC?
im not a newbie i just got lucia pyrot
i was thinking maybe a nanami dupe or ishmael for ss3
No plasma beam wz right now
Only ppc, so this should be enough
https://youtu.be/NQGEJlnSdKg?si=NH3Xugy-iTr2k5j8
0:00 Builds
0:26 Knight
1:11 Chaos
2:01 Hell
i already see it
don't you need ice team?
yea but idk honestly i have been avoiding getting/investing into Qu:Shukra since i heard shes on the older side of things
Yea not big enough
Shes flat 
but yea i can also make use of a shukra i guess
Ice team is solo Wanshi rn
Investing in Shukra from zero is a waste
Unless you already have her
ye hes already ss4 and has weapon and all
happens to some of us ig
Luna leap got released, means Shukra sooner to die in meta
Any new ice unit should able to kick her out

new ice char will be weaker 

Or made her 1 rot

I so nervous
Theres also an option to use it on future non limited units
Either to skip them temporarily to save bc in these new limited economy
Or just to SS3 the newer unit ~~ like the eventual new dark tank ~~
keep dreaming buddy
Mambon thought ur dead already 
How good is sss pyroath? im at ss6 rn and i got blue selector open,
I am thinking of going for ishamel ss3 tho...
What dream bruh
Liv is waking up from her dream
daren meta till eos
I do need someone to pull for liv
js drop your huaxu
SSS Pyro is a different beast
Get her, shes already SS6 no reason not to 
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SS6 is useless
Finish the job and get her SSS
Shes a beast at SSS
You wanna have it back?
I've been logging it in for daily
No
did you exactly roll +75 hp and +15 attack on all of your resonances first try?
on pyroath
ive got so much of the simulacrum credits that i keep on rolling for that** on every char
i can have it
Bro is doxxing, stalking, and judging 
and i will take good care of it
it's called racism
Will you

new alpha frame soon, surely some dumbass tourist will buy it
What number of kj's alt acct is this
2nd frfr
Nah its already mine 
Old habit dies hard eh?
Is liv out yet
no
Ohh that's why I don't have her yet
Nope, shes cancelled 
yeah
Did glaive posy naru vid?
I heard only SSS+ Liv is allowed to equip 4 natasha, I hope it's not true though. I guess I'll have to wait until next week for further confirmation
yeah he did
mycledra contributed alot so im promoting
Im gonna watch
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Im also ginna have a spoken poetry tournament tomorrow so... May ayla or selena bless me
I think it was selena who would be good at it
*her simps
Just wait next week
SSS should still use Natasha, but yeah its all speculation without proper warzone ppc test
I don't have resources anymore after I got her and vera huhuhuh
So you're telling me I wasted hypertune mats on natasha
Should I pull for Lucia Pyroath or Selena Pianissimo in blue target? or new shards for my owned characters?
Just wait next week for definitive answer
No warzone ppc to test right now
Should i pull for hanying solacetune or should i pull for pyroath lucia? I got dante
Any news for fran cottie vs 4pc cottie
With 4 haisen?
Got Dante SS3? Then Hanying, or just save for future newer units
No point investing on older units
Selena if you want, or better yet just save it for future unit
Just base s dante
Yeah no thats lobby decoration tier bruh
Anyway is that from standard blue banner?
Just save it imo
Fire can be solo dps carry by Vera
Yeah it is in the blue banner
Focus on getting newest unit
I got like every newest unit other than liv's
yes
Meta is ever moving forward, no point on older unit
So pyroath or solacetune?
Secure the bc for her wp too first
So around 30k bc for max bad luck on SS0 Liv + sig wp
Got Vera and Selena?
Yes just like i said every new unit other than liv's new frame
Still recommend to save it imo for future unit
Hanying might be free soon in 3 months (hopefully)
Ss3 bianca, selena or Ishmael?
Selena
Cuz youre trolling and not helping

Fk dis Im out 
no dont go please we need you
does leap dlt Luna do 2 or 3 ult per rot?
I read the pins but iirc there is a rot that does 3 ult
Wasn’t it 355 for wz 
2 rot if sss tank
wait I thought the best option is sss Lilith
do we know true liv build now?
pins
so my options for third slot in void are sss wata, ss0 gei, sss Lilith, which would be best?
sss wata
not Lilith? 
3.0 Oblivion 4 Signature mem 4 Cottie 2 Reso
3.0 Ishmael 4 Signature mem 4 Cottie 3 Reso
3.0 Epitaph 4 Signature 4 Shakespeare 3 Reso
ish will copy scire shred
and no -3s cd
my scire ss3, if that helps
^ no davinci
dude i already told u
I'm not sure what u meant by ish copying scire shred
doesn't scire give more shred on ss3?
no
Do we know the difference between heisen and natasha at SSS Liv?
guys im cooked? i hypertuned natasha instead of heisen man i should have waited before hypertuning liv
When ppl go blindly on meta-help asking build for a not finalize unit
Chat is this worth
well hell i've been saving my hypertune materials for liv and im out
wut is that icon on my wata?
and I noticed that his 2pc dv set that was resoed+hted just disappeared, can't find it anywhere 
wrong sets according to the game 
nahh, I have tons of "presets" sitting on random niche ppc sets, and I only see this icon at wata for some reason
and only his mems disappeared 
sorry i ate them
prob conflict mems between chars
ohhh, I found another icon on luna and she was using those dv pieces
bruhh 
so I can't have shared mems in presets? that is kinda... defeating the purpose of these mem presets there 
THEY CAN'T SHARE??
kuso moment
you can use the same mems in multiple presets

my lilith and ishmael both use the same set in plasma and lightning respectively and theres no errors
48 rc for 4300 BC while mpa is 30 RC for 3300 BC
So like a 9 rc loss
Ohh that kinda usefull to me
I messed up my zaza builds so i can fix now
ok, I unequipped it from luna, but I still can't use them on wata in the preset menu
I changed it in the normal menu manually, but the preset still uses the wrong mems and I can't change them

You can..?
wutdafruit am I supposed to do now? 
It works for me
Like 3 units share the same dv in here
Also I learned why my veronica is baked
Because im using philip instead of cottie
wait what heisen instead of natasha for liv's memory when SSS and below?!
I raised natasha
WHYYYYY
Just roll with it
Im sticking with natasha because I dont wanna build bathalon for darkflow
And have to switch swatch
Remember to reso signature move instead of core tho
Same reaction
Y know what atp , don't Hypertune any char on day 1
because her ult apparently deals like 0 dmg
Wait for their patch to be over then hypertune
Cw all over again
Cuz istg without foresight we are just a bunch of mindless monkeys

Some cn player seeing us have this issue for the first time:
also where can i find builds of older characters?
ask us here
or ask
We catched up cn
Cn still cooking
The sync bad side is that how we cant lurking cn stuff anymore for advanced info
And need to wait how them cook
all my mats
i kinda just pulled and threw geiravor & veronica aegis there, now i just got the skulls to get them to SS
so what do they use?
4 haisen 4 cottie but not finalized
<- me when i SSS her and hypertuned her stuffs yesternight
Same
Arent they debating like darwin or sm sht
Fran cottie i heard
FRAN?
Donno why
FRAN WASNT A JOKE??
why darwin if she doesnt ping that much
it was a random thought
But why fran

someone answer this lease, this is actually what i came here to ask XD not liv
She cant even trigger none of the effects
Raydiance bianca with 2 fran 2 wilde deal more then 2 heisen 2 wilde) cause EDB bonus > other
Okay let's not change anything until the character has aged 1 week
Cuz I believe malders will take atleast 1 week to find out the best possible rots and builds
I already ht'd her signature set since I dont want to switch for darkflow
Yeah fran 10% edb or smth
she can trigger the 2pc
Lightning DMG increases by 5%, Extra DMG bonus increases by 5%.
Malders though? Er have fun
ohh, the memory sorting is different in the preset menu than in the normal menu for some kuso reasons
instead of placing the resoed sets that matches the char first, they use some random sorting that makes finding mems there a giga chore to do 
Just keep it for darkflow
I wish
10% edb would make Fran a super common mem
Its giving chen jiyuan all over again
you wish 
so fun to search my ~60 dv pieces for that one resoed piece I want to use 
Good luck malders, the fifthy casuals like myself rely on y'all's trust worthy info
I have like 12
Total probs
Time to use my checks note Bianca Vertias's ??! Heisen
So, what do we have? 4 pcs Natasha doesn't work on Liv?
doesnt it show up at the top of the list if you have it resod
I'm tempted to buy Liv skin 😭
ye, that's how it supposed to be
but that doesn't seem to be the case in the preset menu

What memo set for SSS Limpidity
Go look at veronica skin
I don't have her xddd
4Haisen 4 cottie/2 cottie 2 fran
I'm between Liv or Lilith
@simple dewerm so what's the build for geiravor & veronica aegis? SS rank and no sig though.
cant we do liv 4 heisen 2 cottie 2 eins 
It works its just not good from peoples tests
why are you asking me
this where this special piece shows up, clearly not on top lul
i dunno, you said i can ask people here
Yeah i just forgot how its slipted
Its pretty
Turns her from red and black to blue and white
its not 
Blue hater
the vfx dont even match the coating
what build do i run her on
wait till the laos settle for something cause there are like 5 builds roaming around
oh
Is this SS? You run 4 Heisen 4 cottie (harmo the 2 Heisen)
k next week it is
4 heisen 4 cottie.
Or 2 wilde 2 fran 4 cottie but its variable on your cuoice
IF YOU'RE LAZY then go natasha if you dont feel like switching to bathalon for darkflow
im not sure if i should go for ss3
For reso 6 atk 6 core passive
only 22k bc left
Same memory for 2s3. If you ever go to 3S then the bottom reso becomes 6x signature
i just realized im not cooked on hypertune mats for liv when i accidentally hypertuned natasha I STILL HAVE ALTERNATIVE INTERPRETATION TO DO and those GIVES HYPERTUNE Crystal's
Story missions as well.
i think ill wait for next week
Wth Wilde for liv
You guys are genuinely so broke
story missions end at like ch16
What kinda zaza is this
2fran2wilde
Seem familiar?
wilde is not an option
I may be tweaking
2 fran 2 wilde 2 darwin 2 diesel atp
wilde is plasma
just give her 1pc of every lightning mem
Does diesel and fran stack
Then where cottie 
Just single rot
Thats can be 10s
so either 4 hais 4 cot or 4 nat 4 cottie
Same
4 Nata 4 Cottie reserved for the S+ whels
liv builds 
i res stick anyway'
No not ts again

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oh right my lilith and veronica is r1 am i supposed to r2 them
totally meta, wut are we supposed to do here?
just gamble and set a random char and hope we win? 
id honestly get selena
Read
gamba
Have you ever played horse racing
nihil appears once a decade
Anyone other than her man

I think wata has a high chance at winning
bet on black
are you insane? 
Bro's kit is "nanomachines son"
I picked bonka
Cause favoritism tho
Prob gonna lose ngl
picked luna cause favoritism 
But hey I like bonka and her stat sticks are funny
don't be rude to joe lao wtf
who are you to talk like that to MY pillar of community
I could get another Lucia copy and go for SSS...
I picked no 1 cuz slacc

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Thoughts on Ishmael vs Geiravor SS3 vs Nanaknight SS3? Or any other options I'm missing
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Why gambling inside gambling
This cannot be legal
Have you ever played goo goo babies with your life on the line
Ok
get ishmael watafak
nope, I only ever raced against time 
That’s stil technically a gamble
Sounds good to me lmao I was told to get Nanami SS3 yesterday and I was skeptical for a good 2 hrs
I think this is a worse version of the event where you could vote on your favorite character
And voting got you title for the character
If Heisen is the best for Liv, what does Nanami use? Heisen too?
Who should I get to ss first?
setsu switched Wata memory for df wz to alphonse dv
I thought shakes was better xD
them builds be changing on me daily
but it's fine I have all the mems for wata alr anyways.. damn Liv tho
Shake
Not bath
yea, that's what it reminded me of too 
Bro they should bring back that event
I need me more individual titles
I got Roland's maxed out 
Eden festival?
yeah
Idk the name
What does oblivion leap does?
thou I don't really like that event, it's a looooong chore to do 
Idk but ik that it benefits void a lot
Big brain Dazzalao
Ult dmg increase
You can ping orbs without needing dodge cancel
Extra hold dodge move (seems pointless, or idk)
You also get extra orbs after ult, and she gets qte nuke
malding wz? psychopath behaviour 
Still Heisen
Maybe 4dv soon 
Following in Wata's footstep
Imagine if free
Ez SSS
New character will be dark tank guys, bet
The girl from desperado clash
If she is better than daren I'm fine with that
Alpha dark tank trust me
Isn't discord first?
Are there any key optimizations for Fire WZ rotation besides Dodge cancelling between Vera's Hold Basics?
No
Collab patch was basically A rank patch
Tbh i dont like the path devs seem to be taking, 3 s ranks back to back, limited banners so we dont know how that will affect s rank selectors, and it seems new units will also be limited too
Hooe they guve more freebies to compensate
Hold fully if necessary
You can do crazy wata tech where you 3-ping dodge cancel, and BA but cancel BA with ult 1
You will have blaze orb to trigger matrix and end rot quick
Not overflowing dmg on dead wave
not so crazy tech
That's very possible hmm
It's 2 back to back but limited is scummy yeah
Why 3p
We got dumbasses defending it tho
and always been
He gets a stack on swap
Doesn't it just boil down to just BA ult1
Wata basically never does 3p anymore
Lingya dead
I'm finished
I just run his S cub
me too
No
s cub yuan ye
Me three
Imagine not getting a dv bots cub
Tbh i dont even know why doing it this late into the game, it even fcks up how the weapon/cub banner works, before u could skip wep to pull it later, now u will be forced to do it if u want to get good scores because we dint even know when they will come back
Big l kuro
Nah
If they continue to give sigs like liv
Where it's just dmg
You'll have me malding 222 555 invest runs
I think they did it because their revenue dropped during sync and more during dmc
4m dalao
I mean, shes an attacker so just dmg is what u need
I understand it on an amp, but attacker needs it
All these Liv builds giving me PTSD about bianca
Void
I already wasted hyper mats on natasha smh
Dmg increase only on sig is still big bro
Wait natasha isnt bis?
Well yes
It massively buffs her ult but her ult at base is really mediocre, that's why below s+ the current theory is that it's better to drop this altogether and use a set that buffs her entire kit including her core passive which is her main dmg stream
Not below SSS+
pooooooookiee
Like fraudissimo like fraudity
But we need 555 malders
U got it dazlao
4s scire then never pull sig
Sss+ includes sss?
setsu sheet says watas top reso is attack
but everyone says its red

Lol no
Then what is the bis?
Ye I already quit since the new update
Apparently it barely makes a diff
4 heisen 4 cottie
Should be red
Unless I'm getting smth wrong, red is his main dmg source so it's red
Is it by a big margin? Because i dont have lots of coins saved and i already wasted em on natasha
I wonder if nana could just run 4cot now for the edb
hi bb
Not too sure myself but it's significant enough for there to be noticeable differences in dmg
no point of cott on character that get fixed energy
How’s your wounds feyer
Natasha 4 pcs is bug too and isn't proccing like it is suppose to do.
mwah mwah
Oh, so iys because of a bug? Then i will wait till they fix it to see if i still need another set
Get out of our room
I prefer public
why are people saying its bugged
far as ive seen thats just not true
how do i get out of a story i started?
I bookmarked it but i can exit out of it
you click skip then go back later
it starts from scratch
@keen meteor my cooking is good
doesnt work
Pretty much a similar situation, atp I might even try testing ss0 piano with patton cottie lmao
is this bathlon still?
Ye
wtfrick
go to the big timeline menu
click the bookmark button there?
Fk i might have 4 set of bathlon
liv vera bianca ish
how do i access big timeline?
@keen meteor what do you think
bruh okay
just click on Battle, then main
thanks
I was considering darwin but the buff is way too short so cottie is the only other source of a semi permanent edb buff
does the bookmark work there or can kuro not do anything
Heisen does give edb too tho
- u get a more reliable shred
Unless Liv also drops a shred field then idk
should i SSS luna via bp shop since i have her SS3?
Cope Penguin tested it and compare it with 2 piece Natasha to be sure.
If u got the vouchers then why not
I keep forgetting about 4pc being edb and not just 10% atk
i do not trust that man with anything
You have no life
correct
You don’t have anything
correct
What's replacement of vera? (I don't have dante)
Ignition?
I have u
Yaya
Nanami wata Vero then?
Attacker off field ticks do apply 4pc mem shred but ofc that's not permanent or super reliable
If ur wata isn't sss maybe just use a random healer
Ye not as reliable as shred fields
What Dazzal said yeah either run SSS watanabe or run any random amplifier with 4dv 4guin or 4dv 2guin 2eins depending on zone
what does selena's set even do?
Ok
I should really test mine too
@keen meteor here
Orb refund after blue orb, double dmg on ult2 and blue orb and hold basic
here my team
nice name
naurrrrr
Selena orchestra ult does have good wave transitions but the dmg may not even be worth
We should test
alright your turn
drop your rotation
Ofc this does mean you're locked out of using flower ult on finisher rot or niche flower ult strats but still
okay might be worth a try for ss0 then, prolly not ss3 and above

okay you do need help 
do u want me to write it out?
Uh oh
on who?
ish
I'll test before I rank up my selena
yes please
ill be back in 20 mins
please write it out if you can before that so i can just stream my run to you
What in the zaza
No sig mem is a pretty big ult dmg loss but who knows how anything works anymore LMAO

wata tank?
have you tried with sig mem ish and shakes wata and no dv on team?
If I miss ishmael here then I get a random S rank or one of the other two options?
Same 8.1
wild hmmm think ss0 ish might benefit from this at all?
Ish rot:
sawp in > ult1 > yellow > 2x 3p red > 2x dodge > ult 2
blue > ult1 > 3p red > dodge + hold dodge > 3p red > dodge > ult2
hold dodge (untl stacks turn purple) > ult1 > 3p red > dodge + hold dodge > 3p red > dodge > ult 2 > swap off
Luna rot:
first swap in:
swap in > dodge > yellow + hold ult > hold ba >ult 2
hold dodge (until gauge is full) > tap ult > 2x 3p > dodge > hold ba > ult 2 > yellow > swap off
On all subsequent swap ins you don't need to do the dodge yellow, you can just swap in and hold ult immediately and the rest is same.
Wata is just standard rot
I think ye since luna good now
yeah idk but apparently it's working
Lemme test on ss0 ish team too
chryye is you ish ss0 or ss3?
Ss3
ok ok

I don't want to use scire in my Bianca team
Bro
Is just editing his msg for 69th time
@forest crag should I get nanami
oka
I have but not SS
wait wuts the diff between ryrr ish rot?
@chilly trail did you do any alterations to ishmael's rot or did you do the exact same thing as usual?
I Don't like the new Loadout UI you have even less space to type your team names wtf is wrong with kuro
i think thats just u
hi guys, what S rank should I pull in blue ticks? here’s my character box
idk

For ss3? Also i forgot ss0 isn't same as ss3
If I'm correct you have no vera geiravor
So her
yes!
Can she do rot normally without sothoth? Ss0
Who should I pick from standard banner selector
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so liv ss3 and below is a heis cottie holder ?
under s+
Vera over Ishmael?
lmao
Just wait next week for proper test on wz ppc
Yeah
SS0 ish if copying fire amp vera> better than ayla right buff wise? 
yes
Way better
well not that it matters anyway

I think so, gen 3 amps have a better buff

I was thinking about ss3 ishmael or ss3 nanami
ohh whyy? I don’t want to pull for Liv cause I’m saving for Kamui and the new Lucia
If youre entering warzone 1hr before closing
Yeah it doesnt matter 
I was gonna suggest ss3 nana too, she is in 4 teams so bigger impact
Bro vera is a fire amp, a dps at that
Has nothing to do with livpidity
Livpidity is lightning dps
I thought for darkflow as well?
not in that sense
Ss0 vera=sss Ayla buff wise
Translates to ish too
Yes but that's not used in the game yet
in the sense that it doesn't matter what characters hold as long as they do good dmg
vera never weild hervor from what i remember
same case
I have one account with lucky ss3 ish so I'm gonna test both invests, asking you about whether you did something different with ss3 specifically
Not unless soloing
Or scuffed team
For darkflow, Vera is key enabler
Without her you'll waste lots of time just to get 10 stacks
Vera 1x ult already builds 15 stacks in one go
well we're in meta help, so no room for zazas
Only for solo vera yeah
Useful for non R3 Vera
So she can loses the dlt
All meta is zaza in the first place though
I forgot about df
Doesn't even exist
nah that's just the f2p mentality
Tf you were at bruh
We just got Ish Bathlon cottie scoring better than sothoth cottie 
We're literally dropping liv sig mem as we speak
expected as much
Pgr meta era is already changing now
ohh I see!
And we help everyone here lol but also high invests are now developing zaza as well
good news
huh... that's not zaza tho
Even sss teams
i also have ss3 ish now
Warzone
How is it not?
wow whel
Mind you this is in contemplation rn
Pgr is all zaza kek
my fate arrival pity had been building for 1.5 years
because it's not scuffed
that's the exact definition of zaza
i saw the current arrival rot and thought this was the best chance to use it on
so i targeted nana and offrated ish
Lmfao that was how I got ss3 ish on one account too
u still alive ?
what the hell is the MIDDLE memory
no
Does SS0 Ish can adopt this new zaza?
iirc ult energy is bricked without 4soth
BYYE LMAO
🐳
9m or brick
middle is cottie
damn left u acc on an ai or something ?
Cottie

Nah ult energy should be fine but ult dmg itself will be way lower so I'll test
You see I am the goat you self proclaimed
Is chocolate a retirement guild or smthing? 
I'm a fraud
yeah mambo controls my account
opinions can change overtime but not immediately
well not too far off
2.132.1 is 860w rn
But mambo already dead 
that's just kurai
True meta awakening is realizing that meta itself is zaza
did u get the 10.5
~~ So is it nergi? ~~
kurai logged in,entered random guild
teach me ur ideas
we don't make jokes about kurai
i completely quitted after sss0 selena
3s Luna doesn't need dlt 
Kurai my beloved
it's not a joke
Didn't know u were free 
is there a build bot?, what's liv's best memory set?
I know I was using the atk one on ur acc yesterday
kurai actually did that
kurai is the only one that have access to my account
No wonder i bricked lmao
I was using dlt

also it's kinda weird saying "we don't joke about kurai", that's a really weird thing to say
Two questions
- What mems for darkflow team (wata sss the others base s)
- What is limp's rotation for wz and ppc
Kurai the OG f2p helper
Miss him so much 
If below SSS it's 4 heisen 4 cottie
Ikr kurai is funny
well as long as he's fine and dandy
Anyways i found a breakpoint that might maybe lead to w35 full rot and maybe kill for w36 shield brick
still alive ?
Why wouldn't we joke about him 
Wait next week for definitive answers
Else you bricked again with them meta player still cooking stuffs
Which should be 1050w?
Maybe a little higher

This is assuming there's no brick
time to go get that
someone go pilot my void cause
granted i just got these ranks so idk how to play my current team but i am not getting close to that
Also Wata damage seems inconsequential rn so i might try Lingya
What ranks
Glad to know he's still around
ss3 ish ss3 luna
Was kinda worried about what he said a while ago
and also not too used to having 3s tank in the team either
dazzlao fund my last liv copy u rich mf

bro pulled nana on arrival but got ish instead
I mean i saw ppl talk about a rotation without dlt but i don't think i have the orbs for it, unless I'm doing rot 2 wrong
I mean i saw ppl talk about a rotation without dlt but i don't think i have the orbs for it, unless I'm doing rot 2 wrong
Ok pookie if I somehow have any leftover energy I will
i was on 223 luna ish lilith for the longest time and now i'm 2.132.1 luna wata ish
You can do double rot without dlt
I kiwi already + me f2p
@keen meteor what's your score rn?
Then HOW
U don't wanna know 
Still bricked 770?
Did you experiment with liv yet

7.66 yeah
Or is she so braindead that there's nothing to cook
yeah
Aya
Might wanna ask Yomm for his ref
it's kind of in the middle
Nothing change
Have no idea how he got 860w with 2.132.1
Also Nuke got hacker score (760) with SS0 ish
she's not a super flexible character overall, but there are a couple things you can play with

my run is reso bricked mulitple ults on 1 hp enemies
bro
can you type full invest out
Classic void
Swap in > hold dodge > ult 1
2 blue > 4 white > hold attack until bar is gone > ult 2
2 red/yellow > ult 1 > 2 blue > 4 white > hold attack > ult 2
I may have forgotten 1-2 steps because I still am learning too
lol
Yomm?
He has 233 reso iirc
bit busy with uni stuff
okay well
Who?
🤝
please clarify whel resos when you tell me what score i should be getting 
That's the thing, I didn't even know u were inactive
Liv?
Livpidity
Is it two full ults? So not using hold dodge during second ult to consume that flower?
also I've been playing different accounts so havent really played much on my own
SS0
cause i'm 2.132.1 112
Oooh what are your findings
Somebody shared me this too

Well I'm basing it off Nuke's hacked score
760 with SS0 Ish so ss3 should easily be able to at least 820
It works
wow i guess you don't love me
@chilly trail what your full void invest, chars and resos

nah nah bro people have done this before with nuke scores
they tell me "well nuke got this score with these ranks" but neglect to mention he would have like 5 extra resos over me
i vividly remember this with one of nuke's ion scores
But @ripe stag it needs double checking, I'm like 99% I forgot a move
How good is Luna oblivion?
What are your resos?
Nuke main thing is that he's ss cub whel
.
Good enough
If you want to buy the 5 rc pack do it
ss cubs and multiple resos on all chars
Initial rot
- swap in > hold dodge > ult > 2x 3p blue > 4x White > hold white till slash > ult > swap out
2nd rot onwards
- swap in > hold dodge > ult > hold dodge > ult > 2x 3p > hold dodge > ult > 2x 3p blue > 4x White > hold white till slash > ult > swap out
2.332.3 112 luna wata ish
No ss cub
he's just like me frfr
Incase you are stuck in high hp waves
Just double full stack rot instead of hold dodge
Ss3 ish makes up for this me thinks
The jump in score from ss0 to ss3 is like 1.1m average
So removing some resos (nuke runs 223) should be 800-820w ye
@carmine reef

Wtf cookist
ok someone give me ss3 ish rot
Btw 4p el doesn't work for my investment
The damage on kick is too low
i asked in celica before and got a video but i kinda feel like it sucks
Yeah the fake f2p invest hax 
i always thought this was ppc shenanigans
Ult > RYRRDD > Ult
Ult > RD KICK RD > Ult
HD > Ult > RD KICK RD > Ult
Nope
That's the rot i use
anyway it's good to know i was right about the video i was sent being bad
You want to have it done within 8-9s to fit 3-4 ults at the end
cause this is not at all close
What rank?
thanks both of you
Ss3
Nuke has ss0 3 rot within amp passive
#punishinggrayraven #nihil #ishmael #luna #oblivion #watanabe #herowarzone #void #mobs #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone #pgr_cn
the rots themselves are kind of inflexible, not even much room to optimize because the long rot you can't even dodge cancel the slow parts or else it messes stacks up
all you can play with is like, changing the order in which you do rots (like ignition veronica), or overpinging orbs to skip certain moves (also like veronica)
This makes so much more sense
Wait so
What's the initial rot for her
The first swap

First swap will be the same rot?
It's the same rot throughout
Ok
This is an ss3 ish imitation rot
Every swap same thing
The reason it doesn't work as fast for ss0 is cause ss0 can't do the hold dodge to charge stacks thing on 3rd rot
So you have to charge it on second rot
hello, who has the most important/impactful sss here? everyone is ss3 already, with voucher characters at sss
HOLY SMOKE!
Luna leap is game changer
From 5.1m to 9.5m LMAO
332.3 323
can anyone help me how to combo wata to get 6 stack? I usually do 1 red - hold dodge tap atk - 3x red atk and get only 5 stack for ult
he whel
if not limited can pull
Exaltair member are all whels
To save bc
you don't use hold atk on wata ever, for any reason
i mean hold dodge and tap atk
i have a clip for this somewhere hold on
ah fug streamable deleted it already
so it's just
swap, ult1, basic, hold dodge > blaze blaze blaze blaze, ult2
you trigger the parry with the blaze orb itself
lez goooo
nice tyvm
this is the only inputs required to get off a 6 stack ult, but if your wata is running lingya, it will not be enough orbs to trigger lingya
323?
10.8m where 
so in order to trigger lingya you just insert a 3r after the first basic, and then you ping the matrix on the way out before swap out
Working on it
Tomorrow
I need a rest
I think 10.5 should be your goal for now
123 reso is 10.2 with 10.5m being possible
For attacker it seems Bianca SSS is a different beast
But dunno, am no whel 
I was 6 secs ahead earlier then I mess up my rot
Restarted the game then I can't do it again LMAO
most of those are juice at sss
Anything that might sound useful for ppc?
Her optimal rot at that invest is absurdly tight
Kek
i'm not a big whale either, don't have much experience with sss premium characters haha.. but feels like tanks would be the most important because of the cooldown reduction..?
setsu said something about sp delay but idk if that was for high rank or not, i haven't looked into it
It's for DF +sss i think
To get the 13s end
Personally SSS Nana safest bet
Like will be usable by anyone even skill issued players 
SSS in PGR often means you need to mald more to take advantage of it
Else its just a waste of money
Watch them not roll Observer in ppc until 2 patches later
sss nana so you can get cucked by nana's own weather
Is it not swap in, tap atk, 3 ping, ult 2, dodge and atk, 3ping X2?

is observer added to achievements yet
Oh yeah the no ping lmaoooo
Lmao right what were they thinking
should I be pulling anyone? ishmael or limp?
Explore the 37 characters of Gremlinstone from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Any new boss is added to achievements on their patch even if they don't yet appear in an actually weekly lineup yet
Limp
@zenith kernel 3s Luna 3s Wata 2.3 Ish is possible to 10m, right?
Also I hate that if I dont ping any orb for SSS Nana 2nd ult rot, its under 8sec so her slam doesnt buffed by qte lol
Limited is a bum so immediately must pull
yah nanami would be my first pick rn but wanted more input i'm waiting until anni banner either way anyway
It's 10m already
Thank fabio for that
Aight noted
even as a cw truther?
@thin trail
yes
thanks fabio for doing the first useful thing in your life

@deft apex you're being slandered

Now i sleb I'll do my best on weekends
If you have sss+ 3r s+ cub super tune max everything CW
She might be better than ss0 Limp tbf


10.5 where
3.3 cw is better than ss0 liv no?
Aya I'll mald it
probably lol
record it so I can learn from the goat
Ss0=SSS6 CW
Cw is ass
Why do I almost feel bad about lucksaccing ss3 liv
I don't think I've ever pulled 2 copies of anyone on purpose. so it's ss3 cw vs s limpy
My phone would literally explode
Have you seen me record outside cloud?

ss3 cw gets fkn bodied
Is this with 4 nat to 4 heisen
Feral is currently the reason liv is bricked at low invest regardless lol

by s limpy?
@keen meteor too much lag
Yes
And it's only when i rec
pretty much
no ss0




