📨・meta-help

[bleak glacier]

I dont think feral will be replaced before others

[orchid owl]

you'd be surprised

[dawn cloak]

[bleak glacier]

Also we just got a lightning attacker

[novel token]

hmmm

[bleak glacier]

extremely unlikely

[novel token]

ye later

[dawn cloak]

Just wanna reminds you, Feral was released right after CW debut

[novel token]

i have feral

[dawn cloak]

Back to back lightning isnt the first time

[bleak glacier]

did she

[orchid owl]

yes

and guess who got powercrept, then replaced?

[bleak glacier]

holycrap

[orchid owl]

CW!!!

[dawn cloak]

Anyway, we wait for beta test in 3 weeks
Anything before that is always just speculations

[novel token]

i aslo got vera form free selector

i skipped her cus of dmc

[bleak glacier]

I skipped dmc because of vera

lmfao

[orchid owl]

kamui fire tank with ultima slash affix

[dawn cloak]

Daren still meta till 2030

[novel token]

i started playing the game cus of dmc collab

[orchid owl]

daren meta till EOS

[bleak glacier]

Makes sense

[lusty minnow]

Daren 4ever

[edgy nexus]

Whats better for SS0 Liv limpidity: 4 Heisen 4 Cottie or 4 Natasha 4 Cottie. I asume in both cases her resonances are +15 atk and core passive, right?

[bleak glacier]

Remember to keep a copy of his 5star weapon so you can throw his 6star weapon as fodder later

[orchid owl]

SS0 runs 4 heisen 4 cottie
and yes, reso is the same unless SSS

[bleak glacier]

you cant unequip weapons in this game without another weapon

[novel token]

i have to build vera now

[orchid owl]

keep

like you can't buy one from the recycle shop anytime

[bleak glacier]

not for collab units

did nier not teach you anything

[orchid owl]

why would you want to use collab weapon as reso fodder?

[novel token]

rip only have 2500bc left

[bleak glacier]

would I keep it to admire it?

rofl

[dawn cloak]

💳

[bleak glacier]

or go for the permanent events

they dish out what 10k yellow tickets

besides the story chapters black tickets

I stopped somewhere at 14

[novel token]

the only thing i use credit card for is cs prime

[bleak glacier]

Liv skin is tempting me

[crimson garden]

Is this fr? Why is everything out there saying Natasha?

[dawn cloak]

Bcs the norm was always using sig memo, which is Natasha
Until you actually read its effect
That only buffs her 2nd ult by 100%
But her ult dmg isnt that amazing to begin with (unless SSS)

[dawn cloak]

Just wait next week if youre confused.
Until actual lightning & darkflow warzone exist, so more rigorous test can happen

[lusty minnow]

@orchid owl he still using same old rots, the diff with vera is he can use 1 vera ult b4 doing 2 rots luna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zAcPau6O4w

[fresh hill]

Thx

[orchid owl]

why are you telling me tho

[novel token]

what is vera ppc build

[bleak glacier]

These guys are bredbuilt different

[orchid owl]

well you would only use her on gwyn
so 4 shakes 4 cottie
if you qte bot her with oblivion on off-ele then 4 guin 4 sam

[lusty minnow]

mb bro im playing league rn cant think

[bleak glacier]

Bruv is held hostage

[novel token]

my fire team

[orchid owl]

nothing wrong with that
but bridget should be starter, and vera leader
unless pyro is SSS or something

[bleak glacier]

Vera shouldnt be leader here

what

3200

[novel token]

she is not

[orchid owl]

oh yea no sig either if I see that right

watapak man

[bleak glacier]

Pyro Oath leader

[orchid owl]

how does bridget have more BP than vera?

[bleak glacier]

Dude hes new, no resources probably

[novel token]

i didnt put memory on her

[bleak glacier]

you forgot how easy it is for us

[orchid owl]

you literally didn't put memories on vera or didn't level them

[novel token]

i just got her

[orchid owl]

he put memories on bridget before vera bro

bridget isn't gonna do anything

[novel token]

bro i pullled her like 1 min ago what do u mean

[dawn cloak]

Time to solo Pyro

[bleak glacier]

??? what the problem with that, I did awful when I was new too

He will get better with time

[orchid owl]

I'm pointing out his mistakes, what's wrong with that? I'm not blaming him

[bleak glacier]

and I am telling you hes new with no resources

Have some tact

[orchid owl]

there is a thing such as thinking ahead if you don't have too much resources

[novel token]

so its like this ?

[bleak glacier]

Are you kidding me? who is perfect in these types of situations

I would have to reroll one account to figure out such things

[orchid owl]

yeah good enough

[orchid owl]

nobody is, everyone who needs help would ask about this

[bleak glacier]

Bruv

So now you are me telling me has to be highly intelligent and ask for advice instead of doing everything on his own first and have fun

[orchid owl]

make your mind up my guy

[bleak glacier]

???

[orchid owl]

you are talking about "not being smart enough" to make such decisions, now you say he should be able to think for himself

it's his choice

[dawn cloak]

This is meta channel, its different
If youre too lax, then ppl will start thinking non meta stuff are indeed meta, which is a problem

[bleak glacier]

The point I made is that he was new and was playing without knowing anything about this to begin with

nor resources nor knowledge nor ideas about asking others

[thick canyon]

Hey everyone. How strong did Liv end up being in the end?
I have Alpha CW at SSS+ so I'm wondering if I should invest in Liv past SS.

[bleak glacier]

I do not think someone started a game and asked for advice right away

[orchid owl]

all I said is that he should think about who he spends resources on
at best bridget should have level 1 memories. if you ever played a gacha you would know putting resources here and there is not ideal

[bleak glacier]

Some outliers maybe

[orchid owl]

she is equal to nanami at equal invest

at least in SS0-3 caliber

[bleak glacier]

he just got vera and had bridget earlier

did you read

[orchid owl]

higher you go, stronger she gets

[dawn cloak]

Wait next week for proper test results
But in a nutshell, SS3 Liv is a big jump
Say bye to your CW
New Alpha is coming anyway

[bleak glacier]

I would build bridget too if I didnt have any options

[thick canyon]

I struggle to believe that SS3 Liv outdoes CW that easily.

[bleak glacier]

Again prove it to me by having SS3 Liv going beyond 7m warzone

thank you

[orchid owl]

did you?
I just explained that you should think ahead if you care about meta (he came to this chat to ask for help, he could've clicked gen-help if he wanted affirmation or something)
so I am explaining the thought process, so he can learn if he wants. if he doesn't understand or doesn't want to learn, he is free to do that, come back later, whatever
I'm not flaming him

[novel token]

ye i didnt invest in liv at all

[dawn cloak]

SS0 Liv in SS0 teams already almost 7m bro

[bleak glacier]

No the tone of your typing was making fun/talking down on him man

[bleak glacier]

Legend?

I need source

[orchid owl]

you took it too personally then. I made fun of the image he presented, not him. he had 3500 BP vera and 6500+ BP bridget, do you think that's an ideal scenario?

[dawn cloak]

in beta iirc solo Nana was 6m
Liv SS0 full team was 6.5m

[bleak glacier]

Its not unlikely, he said he just got vera

[novel token]

should i build vera Shakespeare x4 / Cottie x2 ?

[bleak glacier]

yes

[dawn cloak]

Bro, just stop
Cease this at once

[bleak glacier]

Just got freaking annoyed with the way he talked to a new player

what is this ego coming from man

[orchid owl]

[dawn cloak]

Theres also the cheaper build of 4Hervor Vera btw
For pure SS0 team
It saves from using dlt Vera. Also Vera 5* wp cant use the shakes cottie build properly
Here https://youtu.be/sZCdfDDlRsc?si=tNpmQ8xcQt8tMGij

[orchid owl]

it depends
are you f2p?

[novel token]

yes

[orchid owl]

maybe you would want 4 hervor then, since you have bridget and not wata

[novel token]

i will wait for next fire tank

bridget is gud sub dps?

[golden nacelle]

[lusty minnow]

[orchid owl]

you would want 2 rot vera or 3 rot or something to make up for lack of meta tank

[novel token]

should i run liv vera and pyro?

[orchid owl]

she is hopeless unfortunately. still good for shredding the fire resist though, just not good for on-field damage

sorry for sending messages sparsely, I might have trouble with my wired connection

[novel token]

its fine

[dawn cloak]

Just 2 rot but no dodge cancel I guess
Such is the life of cope newbie
All newbie needs to cope anyway in PGR

Solo Pyro was far more cancer back then

[orchid owl]

no no you want bridget definitely. like I said you need shred

without shred your damage drops quite a bit. having liv on the team wouldn't help with your rotation too much, her damage is lacking compared to the other 2

[dawn cloak]

Solo Pyro + Bridget Sophia cope fire was cancer 💀

[orchid owl]

they really did dirty with fire. no A-rank support

sophia can't even be called that

with the way she operates

[dawn cloak]

Yeah fr. I was forced to pick Liv Empy back then just bcs Sophia is so ass
Picking up balls in PGR 💀

[bleak glacier]

Whos sophia

[novel token]

[orchid owl]

[bleak glacier]

Lmfao

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/sophia-pgr-moego-gif-8082923502511207866

[dawn cloak]

Chang who's friend

[bleak glacier]

aint no way

[dawn cloak]

[bleak glacier]

People played her?

[bleak glacier]

I didnt even know her name till now

[dawn cloak]

Solo SS0 Pyro Ballard ppc with Bridget Sophia was 580k btw

[orchid owl]

this just reminded me, we need pgrdle

[bleak glacier]

[dawn cloak]

Sophia can activate 4guin while other S rank amp was struggling btw

[bleak glacier]

Odd

[mighty tusk]

can or cant?

[sand laurel]

just 2 guin 2 ein

[dawn cloak]

Can
Just pick multiple healing balls
Suddenly 4guin activated

Good luck picking it tho

[mighty tusk]

• 1-3 sec in ppc it is

[bleak glacier]

I do not think ppc timing is that important

[dawn cloak]

Such is the life of cope invest

[bleak glacier]

if you get 1.8-1.85m its fine

[dawn cloak]

~~ or pwo invests ~~

[bleak glacier]

I stopped worrying about 1-3 seconds improvements long ago

I dont even do the second cage after 1.8m

[mighty tusk]

I always do IB

but dark and fire sucks

[bleak glacier]

Masochist mode

[crystal rune]

I love dark

Obiz Score

[mighty tusk]

this phat whel is flexing again mods

[crystal rune]

Just needed ts but instead they gave phys

[dawn cloak]

Dark and obiz in one sentence wadapak

Darenina meta till 2030 is real

[crystal rune]

Well s+ dark IB

[dawn cloak]

Just off ele with ts
Flex dat SSS+ Pergil

[crystal rune]

Ye but off ele ts is 11s and on ele should be 10

[bleak glacier]

lmfao

[dawn cloak]

Need red Huaxu then

[mighty tusk]

and new IB boss

cradle too squishy now

[bleak glacier]

Reminds me of the people who dont talk about Cage when they cant finish it in 6-9 seconds

[mighty tusk]

and new liv can get 14 sec red huaxu

[dawn cloak]

Pak yu
As if Red Huaxu isnt enough already

[crystal rune]

It isnt

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1432000913907646585.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Selena_Ohayo

[mighty tusk]

for liv and bianca it isn't

at max invest that is

[crystal rune]

Liv Bianca and worgil

[dawn cloak]

Fk whels

[bleak glacier]

Hes not one of us

we dont take him

[dawn cloak]

Who's us tho?

[bleak glacier]

Whales in general, hes beyond that

[mighty tusk]

nergi who's not a gigawhel, but a multigigawhel with 5 accounts

[crystal rune]

4

[mighty tusk]

*6

[crystal rune]

Shut up

[mighty tusk]

[crystal rune]

Wait

[bleak glacier]

His memory aint right with how many accounts he has

[crystal rune]

I do have 5

[ebon quail]

What positions for memories and resonances am I going for with the new liv?

[bleak glacier]

pins

[ebon quail]

Thanks

[dawn cloak]

~~ ban the pilots ~~

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

That’s not good

Dont do that

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141131

[rocky wedge]

morning, im f2p

[crystal rune]

Hi f2p

[rocky wedge]

bye

[crystal rune]

Oh

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pani-poni-dash-ichijou-anime-disappear-box-gif-21295601

[crystal rune]

I used to follow your rots

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1155823278921883668.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=SADDIES

[rocky wedge]

Man my PC blue screen as you said that 😵‍💫

[crystal rune]

WorryThinkAsian

Mb

[rocky wedge]

Yes all your fault

[crystal rune]

Sorry for speaking in your presence

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1421858369614118998.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PepeRunCryTrip

[rocky wedge]

Apology accepted

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[rocky wedge]

Jkjk XD wait is slow mode removed finally?

[crystal rune]

Yea

Few days ago

Gen help got 10s after liv

[rocky wedge]

Lmao

[trim apex]

Chat my 333 232 void team only scored 11.5 mil am I washed

[dawn cloak]

The zone is washed
All mob zone

[young badge]

ye but the score pretty gud

[bleak glacier]

Ishmael lower Sig or Core at SSS

I forgot

[rose yew]

Nihil need new attacker fr
Maybe alpha can take the spot

[trim apex]

Signature skill

[trim apex]

Luna’s leap put her on par with the rest of the attackers

[pine slate]

can pre download where winds meet now btw

game releases tmr

[cunning vortex]

Yo guys, do I change luna's memory sets from Sig to Core skill?

[young badge]

core is for ib specific kill

[cunning vortex]

And also, if the team i wanna use is Luna, Lilith and Ishmael, what do I build ishmael on

[cunning vortex]

No because, people said that on the leap for luna, she'd change from sig to core skill

[young badge]

who said

[cunning vortex]

MANY people, actually
Including in videos
I dont remember their usernames tho

[meager hill]

does nanakknight run 4 sig 4 cot now if liv is holding 4 heisen?

[young badge]

nah nobody said that

[cunning vortex]

I remember, wtv, can you answer me on the question i asked be4 abt lilith

[young badge]

what question

[cunning vortex]

Not lilith, ishmael, i forgot

[dawn cloak]

Nah, still Heisen. Nana cottie only for ppc fast kill
And ignition

[cunning vortex]

My baaad

[young badge]

ishmale 4 sotot 4 cotie

[cunning vortex]

Sig?

[young badge]

yes

[cunning vortex]

As in, for memories, do I put em on her sig move

[noble zinc]

[young badge]

yes

[cunning vortex]

Alrigh, thanks

[trim apex]

dalao teach me

[crystal rune]

Send details

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1178550658568302684.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=HyperDalaoBow

Dalao even has extorting hax

[noble zinc]

I need to get mine done first still slacked 12

[cunning vortex]

WAIT @young badge, does luna oblivion keep the sig move memories?

[noble zinc]

Est had 135

So that ref

[trim apex]

3.333 232 w/Vera, Luna S cub, Ish SS cub, Vera S cub

[young badge]

yes

[cunning vortex]

Ae

[crystal rune]

wtf why void kinda good Score

[cunning vortex]

Ty

[young badge]

i thought void good with scire 💀

[dawn cloak]

Maybe cuz the shield

[crystal rune]

Autocorrect

[chilly trail]

Ish bathlon cottie

[crystal rune]

Bringing ppc build to wz

Watapak

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1178550658568302684.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=HyperDalaoBow

[young badge]

dv wata?

[chilly trail]

Ish have field too so good shred wave

[chilly trail]

Ye

[dawn cloak]

How to shred without 4 Soth tho

[keen meteor]

Wadahell u cookin bro

[chilly trail]

Idk but i have good bathlon uptime

[dawn cloak]

Oh wait, its amp Ish
You bring wata watduhell

Dis is crazy that it might actually works

[keen meteor]

I can try it too I guess I have a bath set already

But im washed so idk

[dawn cloak]

Fk my SSS is Nana so Ish copies Feral instead

[crystal rune]

My dalaos can never be washed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1178550658568302684.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=HyperDalaoBow

[cold walrus]

Yeah i scored 10.1m with 2.333 123. Sure you can 12+

[crystal rune]

You have 3 ish now?

UN_PoincoWOW

[cold walrus]

Yes. Pulled a copy from standard and bought her shards from shard shop

[crystal rune]

Thumbb

[young badge]

do u have wanshi

at what rank

[round lake]

swap Qu still better than SSS Wanshi solo

[ebon adder]

is sss wata > sss lilith and ss3 vera
for nihil

[round lake]

Loona doesn't need DLT anymore

[unborn hound]

Oh Qu Shukra, you disgrace—
Trash to fight, and trash to play.
A boss so cheap, a unit so weak,
The game itself begs you to leave.

You steal my orbs, you kill my flow,
A bugged-out hack—who coded this hoe?
"Useless without SS and sig,"
A paywall joke, a scam so big.

I pulled for you - my darkest hour,
Like chasing salt instead of flour.
Witness her, be weak compared to Wanshi too.
Now watch her fail at all she do.

The Queen of Kowloong, lo and behold, but all I see,
is a stupid baboon.
They hyped you up, then dropped this mess,
A walking scam in an S-rank dress.

No damage without your signature,
even the kids think that you are immature.
6 months into the game ,
got smoked by your tank in fame.

Oh "Qu Shitra", you fail both sides,
As boss, as a character—you disappoint.
So vault your ass, take your delete,
And pray Kuro never makes repeats!

You’re not a waifu—you're a joke,
A lazy dev's half-finished stroke.
Delete your banner, burn the code,
You’re dead weight on a dying mode.

Got shot by some random fodder,
spatial awareness like no other.
the only good thing you have is your legs, but even then,
that's a half-assed defense.

[round lake]

khaled jumpscared

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1430963441778299071/image0.gif

[young badge]

khaled still have rights UN_PoincoWOW

[mossy chasm]

if i have vera on 5* weapon is it worth using her sig set to kinda replace the missing dlt

[orchid owl]

if you are solo vera yes
if you have both of her teammates it's fine

[quiet basalt]

Wait wait wait, Liv unless sss+ is heissen? Dude just for once I do my homework early and now i gotta scrap those natashas 🤣🤣🤣

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/xain-narushio-wuwa-narushio-clownshio-wuwa-gif-16334139510714353228

[peak halo]

Qu is enought source for that

[heavy marlin]

Should i ss3 someone from the blue banner? I'm thinking of ss3 ish, vera or bianca

[feral ice]

What's limpidity best build?

[topaz quiver]

Is ss3 nana > ss limp as main dmg dealer?

[trim apex]

Anything below SSS+ 4 Heisen 4 Cottie

[feral ice]

As for the 2?

[orchid owl]

2 cottie

[trim apex]

Bianca > Ish > Vera in order of ss3 priority imo

[trim apex]

For 2s go 4 Heisen 4 cottie as well

[feral ice]

I swear cottie is EVERYWHERE

[orchid owl]

Is there any better memory for nana than 4 heisen if she is with limpidity?

[heavy marlin]

I just realized i can get new character there like the upcoming frames right?

[orchid owl]

Not upcoming

[feral ice]

When your building a dps, COTTIE.
When your building a sub-dps as a dps, COTTIE.
When your building a support as a dps, COTTIE.

[round lake]

in PPC then sure, otherwise I doubt it

[heavy marlin]

How many patch till they're put in there?

[trim apex]

No you could go 2 eins 2 gloria but the coverage is bad, and you sacrifice nana’s dmg

[orchid owl]

So double heisen for wz?

[round lake]

yes

[orchid owl]

[trim apex]

She is the goat, what can I say

[orchid owl]

I heard it's 2

[round lake]

Heisen for Liv just because it's the strongest set not because she uses it to shred

[heavy marlin]

I already build natasha😭 I'll just use it

[orchid owl]

She prefers ss3 for TS mainly

[round lake]

apparently a non-hypertune Heisen set is better than full hypertuned Natasha

[heavy marlin]

I should build it then i still have 300k coins www

I mean natasha will still have some use right for ppc stuff

[round lake]

Hohoho

[heavy marlin]

SSS 🐋

Should i put 4 heisen 2 cot and harmonize 2 cot?

[trim apex]

4 cottie 2 Heisen harmo 2 Heisen is slightly better

And if you need to build DF Liv you can just switch Heisen with Bathlon

[heavy marlin]

Okay thanks

[north sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140525183568982066.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Frog_WorryThinkMath

[peak halo]

[trim apex]

Remember to put cottie in slot 4, 5, and 6

[noble zinc]

【无敌覆冰单一脚踹死焚烧，批发4240w分😋-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/54hjpqC
Glacio boss real

[heavy marlin]

Like these?

[slate gull]

cottie gaming

[sly geyser]

what the

[crystal rune]

what

Oh fk you

Immediately hit with a rickroll

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1358099919684243486.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worry_tased

[eager oasis]

SS3: ish - vera or solacetune

wait liv uses.... heisen?

[limber yoke]

ye

[still moat]

COOKED

[eager oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1426511259616022654/1430437929226080276/lv_0_20251022130318_0_COMPRESSED-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

what does nanami use instead then

einsteinia and uh...

[rose yew]

Lantern

[peak halo]

Haisen

Like was qu and wanshi that time

[brisk pelican]

Guys I need an advice. So I have Kaleido with her sig but still S rank. Should I use Parhe still or just use Kaleido instead for Ice Team?

[peak halo]

And vero and dante too

[round ether]

quick question, im new to the game and got Bianca, and the best memory set every guide I find, I cant seem to find in the memory store thingo, can anyone tell me what the best i can get atm is please??

[keen meteor]

NO WAY

[peak halo]

Ish ss r2?

[peak halo]

U wanna found where to buy memories?

[brisk pelican]

Still 1 reso and SS

[peak halo]

Then try it but not too much the diff iguess

[sour silo]

At full stacks, it will work

L run luna on deer cub and all are r1

[eager oasis]

i alrdy went all in on natasha....

is it much of a dmg diff?

🚮 what the hell why release a sig set only to not use it
(hi vera)

[sour silo]

A lot for wz, duno for ppc

[sour silo]

Whel privilege

[eager oasis]

does nanami not suffice? how or why is it better

[eager oasis]

doesnt qu run 2p ice shred and 2p darwin

[sick flower]

@sour silo have meta whales come to conclusion of limpidity build

[eager oasis]

since wanshi shreds

[sour silo]

Its for her core, qte and off-field dmg

Thats why its better for using heisen

[eager oasis]

what does nanami use? also heisen or einsteinia/lantern/gloria or whatever

[sour silo]

Natasha just buff her full stack ultimate

[sour silo]

Heisen

[eager oasis]

[peak halo]

But also yeah forgor memochange

[sick flower]

eins and gloria are for trash ass tanks btw

[eager oasis]

cant i just keep nanami on 2p heisen and then harmo einst

[sour silo]

Firefly did compare both memo set

[sour silo]

Nanami downgrade ig

[sick flower]

why is bro underestimating nanami

let her do some damage man 💔

[eager oasis]

??? cause liv can apply heisen offfield for the shred

[peak halo]

Uhu nanami a trash then in ppc
But nvm me

[sour silo]

Nanami personal dmg

[eager oasis]

idk it feels wasted af to have twice the shred set

[sick flower]

why did mald block me tho 🥀

[sour silo]

E

Huh

[zenith thorn]

skill issue

pgr players reading challenge

[eager oasis]

my bad for watching spider 2b

jesus christ

[eager oasis]

no need to be such a negative nancy about it

[sick flower]

dont watch anything pgr related

[zenith thorn]

spider2b :lmaocry:
he went completely off the mark after not asking his helpers anymore

completely 0 pings for liv

[eager oasis]

is it worth to remake livs set from natasha to heisen

[zenith thorn]

yes

absolutely yes

you are in meta channel

answer is always gonna be yes

[steady otter]

[zenith thorn]

the difference is that big

[sick flower]

whats limpidity darkflow build tho

[limber yoke]

fk s+ whel

[zenith thorn]

k whel

[steady otter]

Shut my liv is ss

Im broke

[zenith thorn]

u whel whel too

fks whel impersonating as f2ps

[sick flower]

looks like no one cares

[zenith thorn]

is selena skin wedding over

[limber yoke]

no

[zenith thorn]

ok sweet cloud gaming time

[peak halo]

Ok so liv 4pc not incrase any dmg

Or what how 10% edb better

[limber yoke]

it increase full stack ult dmg

[peak halo]

But if u cant max stack then shi

[zenith thorn]

wow these are pathetic

[mossy chasm]

which one do i get to ss hanying or nanami

[zenith thorn]

any other unit you haven't ss yet or just those 2

need more additional context

[mossy chasm]

just those two and alya and 21 that i don't even use cause i have ish

[zenith thorn]

nanami then

im assuming u already ss liv and bianca dark then

ie the new character

[mossy chasm]

yes

[zenith thorn]

aite then ss nanami

[rain anchor]

heisen or natasha for liv ss0

[zenith thorn]

heisen

[rain anchor]

oops

[sick flower]

4 heisen 4 cottie for liv?

[rain anchor]

yea

[mossy chasm]

wait what

[zenith thorn]

pins pls

[mossy chasm]

i already got her sig set and im out of resources

[zenith thorn]

i know we have no bot anymore

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sp9nXp7kbVppE2N_vl5x5A65yRwp7193CHS61SWbSe8/edit?usp=drivesdk

[sick flower]

why doesnt she use 2 poincare

[zenith thorn]

@spiral merlin why haven't we pin setsu build sheet yet

[sick flower]

some people say 2 poincare bro i dont know who to follow atp 😭

[spiral merlin]

i dont even know where to find sheets

ive never used sheets for pgr lol

[zenith thorn]

ok now you know

it's in his description bro

:lmaocry:

[keen meteor]

@distant wren @buoyant hornet u think the reason ss0 liffu was bricked in beta was cs everyone was using her sig set instead of heisen? i just realised that

[zenith thorn]

LMFAO

[spark dirge]

who's the worth to ss3 here they all ss0

[mighty tusk]

they have ss0 liv?

[crystal rune]

gawd

so f2p friendly

[zenith thorn]

how good is ss3 luna post leap

[keen meteor]

No but we were discussing ss0 liffu during her beta and she was super mid

[distant wren]

lmfao

[spiral merlin]

i dont check

[zenith thorn]

actually whose the priority list for ss3

[keen meteor]

Bery good

[mighty tusk]

honestly one of the best leap we've had since empy

[zenith thorn]

pgr players moment

[daring abyss]

whats current voucher prio?

[trim apex]

Ok I'm not washed@noble zinc

[zenith thorn]

so her leap gets alot of benefits from ss3?

[zenith thorn]

ok get 1300w

[mighty tusk]

qte nuke at ss3, off field dmg at ss0, sss has edb on that off field

faster rot with holt ult and is actually used

[sick flower]

doubles the damage of hold ba

[keen meteor]

Make her a gen 3 attacker basically
Qte nuke, off field dmg, easier and faster rot

[zenith thorn]

who's the priority to ss3 now

[keen meteor]

Nana the goat obv

[fickle nexus]

so is natasha 4pc bugged? No way heisen's meant to be better on liv 🙁

[zenith thorn]

ofc still nana :lmaocry:

[zenith thorn]

no it's just ass

[fickle nexus]

noooo i hypertuned it and all

[zenith thorn]

tell me of this 4pc is good

tell me

[crystal rune]

why aint nothing but a heart ache

[zenith thorn]

nanami startrail

[fickle nexus]

it has the word doubles in it

[keen meteor]

No its just bad

[spark dirge]

ty

[fickle nexus]

time to read what delicate heart actually is

[zenith thorn]

yeah except it's entirely vague

[trim apex]

Not great... too much base dmg, especially if you have her cub.

[round lake]

Lets give Liffu 11k% scaling on Ult to fool people

[mighty tusk]

her ult2 gains too much base dmg bonus?

[fickle nexus]

i'm gonna find out it's just one attack

[zenith thorn]

not gonna i haven't even caught up to pgr at all, nor have i read her kit

:lmaocry:

but kuro bullshittery is just blatant obvious

[mighty tusk]

does liv have base dmg bonus on her core or something?

[keen meteor]

Pretty sure its bad because the ult dmg is bad so the set isnt worth. If it was a case of dilution it wouldnt be a recommended set for s+

[trim apex]

1. it only benefits her ult2 and 2) Her cub and her ult2 stacks increase base dmg, and it has diminishing returns. Generally you want to spread out your dmg increase across different multipliers (edb, base, atk, element dmg, etc.)

[zenith thorn]

ah so the 4pc buffs ult

but below sss+
ult dmg is ass

got it

thanks kuro

so im guessing the main reso is core

[mighty tusk]

below sss

[keen meteor]

Below sss, yep

[sick flower]

kuro done making qte deal higher damage than ultimate move

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

gen 4 will be about qte damage we are leaving sig2 nuke behind

[zenith thorn]

fck i don't have the solon w player friendly gif

https://tenor.com/view/keqing-devs-listened-genshin-gif-3963153205254211645

[simple dew]

when the characters main dmg source is qte and not the actual rotation

[fickle nexus]

damn, delicate heart isn't even the ult multiplier

[trim apex]

that, and the core passive does significant dmg as well, which 4 Natasha can't buff. At SSS+ you get 40% edb to ult and it multiplies the base dmg increase. If not SSS+ go 4 heisen since it buffs atk, lightning dmg, and edb.

[cold walrus]

extremely good. got 8s hell mado

[sick flower]

does limpidity sig2 deal higher damage than cw sig2?

[orchid owl]

Guys
SSS limpity
Or SSS gura?

[fickle nexus]

natasha 4pc really just buffs one attack from her entire moveset lmao

[keen meteor]

Cw who?

[cold walrus]

well, liffu is used in 2 teams, while vera is used in 4.

[sick flower]

og lucia

[keen meteor]

Forget that hag its 2025

[simple dew]

like 800% more

[raw swift]

guys i wanna ask, should i pull liv to ss or just play ppc like hell

[sick flower]

isnt this way less than enough for gen 2/gen 3,5 difference

[simple dew]

no clue but liv can increase her ult2 by 7,5% for each stack

[fickle nexus]

uh, i think liv doing 8 times the damage of cw is quite a difference

[zenith thorn]

you should always play plc

ppc

ppc is the main place for ss

[sick flower]

we need selena/lilith type of difference

[simple dew]

When Alpha is holding the odachi, tap Signature to consume Signature Energy and deal Lightning DMG to enemies in a large area. Alpha then puts the odachi away and holds the kodachi in hand. Triggers Time Lag Calculation when casting the skill.

• Deals 2676.47% Lightning DMG in total.

Shatters the mirror, dealing DMG, converting Blue Orbs and White Orbs into equal amounts of Red and Yellow Orbs, and gaining a set of Signal Orbs. Rearranges the Signal Orbs into 3-Pings. Triggers Time Lag Calculation when casting. If Field Ultralimit is active when cast, refreshes its duration.

• Deals 3397.06% Lightning DMG.
• When in Darkcross Form, deals 3397.06% Darkflow DMG. Exits Darkcross Form after casting. If cast with 12 stacks of Delicate Heart, deals additional 1029.41% Darkflow DMG and gains 1200 Darkflow Reserve.

[rain anchor]

is nanami's bottom resonance still ult or class

[orchid owl]

Fire, igni, df and nihil?

[sick flower]

depends

[simple dew]

their ult2 dmg difference isnt super massive

[fickle nexus]

oh u meant 800% in raw numbers

[trim apex]

yes

[simple dew]

although livs (at ss) is her core

[sick flower]

@simple dew show capriccio and daemonissa

[warped axle]

NEW BUILD FOR LIV AGAIN?

[simple dew]

we dont talk about that

[cold walrus]

exactly. and she's the crucial part in these teams, tho you can avoid vera in burn

[sick flower]

show show show rn rn

[warped axle]

4 heisen 4 cottie wtf

[simple dew]

ion have craprisso

[warped axle]

🥀

[simple dew]

[trim apex]

yes, because of math

[sick flower]

look at the website

[warped axle]

what does Nanami run

[trim apex]

4 sig 4 heisen (for wz)

[warped axle]

also screw dalao, I wasted my ht mats

[warped axle]

[sick flower]

wasnt she always using that

[warped axle]

say that again...

[cold walrus]

for 4 natasha?

[warped axle]

8 pc heisen

[warped axle]

yes

[sick flower]

look at ice

[trim apex]

Liffu go 4 heisen 4 cottie, nana go 4 sig 4 heisen

[cold walrus]

lmao

don't you still run 4 sig in ib

[trim apex]

don't laugh I bricked mine too

[cold walrus]

i hted 4 heisens, kinda bricked

[warped axle]

I don't get it, why overlap with heisen?

[raw swift]

well this patch i got many characters: liv, luna:oblivion, and ishmael so many characters to build man

[trim apex]

PPC is 4 sig 4 heisen for Liffu right?

[cold walrus]

idk

should be cottie anyways

[remote fossil]

4 heisen? Hurm

[cold walrus]

and swap to ish

[zenith thorn]

then they aren't as much of a high priority to ss compared to liv

[trim apex]

Heisen increases Liffu's overall dmg much better than Sig at ranks below SSS+

[zenith thorn]

newer characters always high priority

[cold walrus]

s+ or brick

[remote fossil]

First time i see s+ build

[raw swift]

ok ill try to get ss on liv next is probabbly ishmael

[remote fossil]

Usually just the same with 3s

[little stirrup]

Liv needs DLT or is it better to reso something else?

[remote fossil]

Seems like she's not need it

[trim apex]

Because of math. Long story short Natasha only buffs base dmg on ult 2, whereas Heisen buffs 3 different dmg multipliers. Dimishing returns for 4 Natasha except for SSS+ which buffs ult2 extra dmg bonus making it worth it again.

[warped axle]

you didn't answer what I'm asking

why?

can you have two heisen debuffs at the same time?

[orchid owl]

@cold walrus what do you recommend, double pull vera from anni (she is ss3 rn) or 1 from basic and 1 from anni?

[trim apex]

That's literally why. More dmg for Liffu. The overlap is justified by more dmg on Liffu

[remote fossil]

No, but just for extra dmg

[little stirrup]

I'm gonna crash out, every person has a different answer for this very question

[remote fossil]

Just like liv and vera situation, tho still can be change

[warped axle]

if heisen can only be procced by one unit, why Liv must get Heisen?

[rose atlas]

can ss3 liv work as a dps?

[trim apex]

No need DLT if you 2 ult rot, need DLT if you alternate 2 and 3 ult rot.

[orchid owl]

First thoughts were that she needs it. But that pin was removed, and I heard she can still rotate without it

[trim apex]

Because Heisen buffs atk, lightning dmg, and extra damage bonus. It results in Liv dealing more dmg overall.

[remote fossil]

With her sig and her enhanced qte, she has enough orbs

[sick flower]

@orchid owl ss3 liv and ss3 nanami both use heisen?

[little stirrup]

Yeah, I tested it myself and she can do 2 full rots without but likeeeee I'm not that smart so maybe I'm missing out on something

[remote fossil]

Ye

[little stirrup]

Thankyou kind stranger

[simple dew]

excluding the yap,
sss+ craprisso 3k%
rankless lilith 5 stack 6k%

[pastel loom]

Does anyone know why their is a Extra stage in this mode?

[trim apex]

You are right that Heisen can only be proc'd once and doesn't stack, but it's the buffs that matters for Liffu

[remote fossil]

Luckily i make 4 cottie on my main set, tho dunno why i put 4 bath on main set

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-powercreep-hsr-castorice-hsr-dragon-gif-8292897753528429760

[orchid owl]

On top of what k3nz said
Heisen is procced per unit, so the cd is only per unit. If you kill a wave and don't have qte up, nanami can't apply heisen every time alone

[fading kestrel]

theyve done these extra stages all the time
no reason. just for fun

[remote fossil]

Wasting resources, haha

[simple dew]

like a 3 year gap between them

[sick flower]

i pinged citrom and everyone else other than citrom answered 💔

[simple dew]

xav when did craprisso release

[orchid owl]

Such is life lmao

[simple dew]

[orchid owl]

But they know more than I

[remote fossil]

4 years ago iirc

[sick flower]

how many year gap between crimson god and limpidity

[orchid owl]

2?

Maybe less

[simple dew]

2.5

[sick flower]

3

[remote fossil]

2 year and a half if im not mistaken

[simple dew]

liv is 6th anniv
lcw is 3.5 anniv

[remote fossil]

3 eh

[trim apex]

Heisen cooldown is per enemy unit. One teammate carrying 4 Heisen is enough to apply the debuff onto new waves with no downtime. (Of course factoring in QTE cd it's not feasable, unless you have shred field QTE like Nana or Wata)

[sick flower]

they fced the leap up so she deserves to be counted as 3 years older

[remote fossil]

Urgh need to rebuild again

[orchid owl]

I'm saying double heisen is ideal because you can have full uptime that way, not that it's bad

[sick flower]

anyway pgr is a cheap honkai clone it should eos

[simple dew]

[sick flower]

no one says anything about ice btw

[orchid owl]

Wdym

[simple dew]

ss3 liv 4 heisen 4 cottie?

[sick flower]

no one complains about shukra and wanshi using the same memory but they do for liv and nanami

[slate gull]

just get s+ liv so you can use natasha

[orchid owl]

Shukra barely gets any field time
And I personally don't use double Chen

[simple dew]

yea because qu still uses her sig set, liv doesnt

[remote fossil]

Below s+ is heisen

[crystal rune]

wdym she barely gets any field time

[sick flower]

yes

[crystal rune]

worrybrickhit

[orchid owl]

Ss0-3 she is there for a wave and not more

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[orchid owl]

Most of her damage comes from ult 2 and nothing else

[crystal rune]

2 strong ults is not just a wave

broke

[mighty tusk]

atleast 2-4

[orchid owl]

How do you even chain 2 strong ults if you want fast ult next swap-in

[sick flower]

2 strong ults is 10 waves bro trust

[warped axle]

what's liffu's set on df?

[mighty tusk]

you never do fast ult if you have dlt

[sick flower]

4 bathlon 2 cottie 2 hot gray hair man

[orchid owl]

Not like that, I mean 3+1 ping and swap out

[slate gull]

[sick flower]

SOMEONE TEACH CITROM HOW TO USE SHUKRA

[orchid owl]

So next time you swap in you do 1 ping and you have 3 stacks of fray,+semi instant ult

Am I doing some zaza stuff?

[mighty tusk]

that's the first time I've seen that rot

[orchid owl]

[keen meteor]

No people use that

Ive seen that before

[mighty tusk]

give the guy nudelao ice wz

[keen meteor]

Setting up full ult before swapping off

It's a thing

[orchid owl]

SEE, I'M NOT CRAZY

[keen meteor]

Especually useful if ure low on time for her last swap

U can insta full ult instead of opting for a fast ukt

[orchid owl]

Do you use fast ult without 3S?

[keen meteor]

Yeah if u have like 2 secs left

[orchid owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1429089074135830529/jaAkDaM_4.gif

[keen meteor]

But 3s qu is very fun i played it for the first time this last ice zone

[crystal rune]

fun when you get the first rot down

[orchid owl]

I bet

[crystal rune]

worryNodders

[orchid owl]

[sick flower]

@orchid owl someone says 4 bathlon 4 cottie scores higher than 4 bathlon 2 cottie 2 pointcare is it true

[orchid owl]

How would I know that

[sick flower]

because you are the goat

[orchid owl]

I can't just pull data from my ahh

[orchid owl]

The WHAT

[slate gull]

you can try

[simple dew]

maybe wait till a df zonr actually appears before jumping to conclusions

[orchid owl]

[sick flower]

try, lets see what comes out

[simple dew]

i say that 8 bathlon is the best for liv in df

[remote fossil]

Next week prob gonna be lightning and df

[slate gull]

make it mobs

[orchid owl]

Absolutely. You see, 2 pc pointcare has permanent uptime, unlike cottie! You get the bonus damage even before your first ultimate.

[remote fossil]

Ye, and i still in hero haha, too slack after vero came

[keen meteor]

Its not too hard

[remote fossil]

She's the reason i dont play much

[crystal rune]

its not but doing it fast is smth else

[keen meteor]

Tru tru

[trim apex]

CN this week have Lightning mobs, dk if we are still behind or if we'll sync

[orchid owl]

FeelsIshmaelMan

[crystal rune]

especially when youre not playing in cursor mode

worry

na

ishmael is easy

no orb rng to worry about slowing you down

[keen meteor]

Have u tried tho

[orchid owl]

In ppc?

[crystal rune]

ReallyShrug

[remote fossil]

So that's why they decided to put 4 heisen on liv huh

[keen meteor]

Ive never played in cursor mode

[remote fossil]

Till this day i still dunno how to play vero haha

[crystal rune]

i only do it when i need fast inputs on ult or smth

[keen meteor]

Idk how people play that

[orchid owl]

I gave up 7/8 chaos hell because I couldn't pull it off even once in 50 tries

[trim apex]

No, 4 Heisen is just better for Liv (except for S+)

[orchid owl]

Do we have any basic liv rots?

I want to dominate the boss and the character stage

[keen meteor]

Your 13s burn was cursor mode I assume

[deft apex]

Just use celica's class rot

[crystal rune]

ye i used cursor mode for red orbs becuase my finger was hurting and cursor to ult on ish

[trim apex]

Just play on a mechanical keyboard

[deft apex]

It's actually decent lol

[warped axle]

I'm stealing Bianca's 4pc bathlon set for Liv

[crystal rune]

how does that help wdym

[warped axle]

I'm actually going broke on HT mats

[orchid owl]

That 3+3 hold dodge crystal ting?

[deft apex]

Ye

And is hold ba

[orchid owl]

[keen meteor]

I was trying it on keyboard but only got 14

[trim apex]

Mechanical switches have fast actuation

[crystal rune]

CutePriestess

[warped axle]

what's liffu's fast ult rot?

[crystal rune]

i already am using one, i think i need a wooting kb

[remote fossil]

Prob, switch in > hold dodge > ult > 2 blue > 4 white > hold white/ba > ult > 2x 3 ping > hold dodge > ult > 2 blue > hold dodge > ult

[trim apex]

Personally I mapped every orb position ect onto the kb and play kb only, and it's very nice

[crystal rune]

i do too its just for certain ppcs/ib i use cursor mode for certain inputs

[keen meteor]

Do u know akayuki by chance?

[orchid owl]

Bro liv literally looks like an ice character. I think kuro added some vfx out of spite and replaced cw

[trim apex]

no is that a game?

[keen meteor]

He's the top CN Hi3 player. He plays the whole game one hand keyboard only. First person I've see play that way

[crystal rune]

oh

i did that too

for a bit xdd

idk how hi3 differs from pgr tho

rorrythink

[keen meteor]

Only kb and one hand is crazy tho

[thin trail]

Yo! @keen meteor good timing I was not expecting you to be here cuz your score in Nihil is 7.6m
What is your rots?

[trim apex]

Spider hands

[keen meteor]

Not much now but there are some tech where u need dodges

[thin trail]

Me big skill issue with new leap

[keen meteor]

Old hi3 was different tho

[thin trail]

7m only

[crystal rune]

oh i dodge with rclick anyways

[thin trail]

hw_lmao

[crystal rune]

broke

[keen meteor]

The standard. 3 ult ish, 2 ult luna, 1 ukt wata. U can do 4 ult on ish once during the run

[keen meteor]

Same

[keen meteor]

Cap for my team is 8m+ tho but I dont wanna mald that

[orchid owl]

Arigato

[thin trail]

Do I need to enter Luna Finality?

[trim apex]

For reference, my key binds for keyboard only:
WASD: movement
Q/E: QTE and switch
H/R: Ult
G: core skill bar
J: BA
K: Dodge
L: Cub
O, I, U, Y, 0, 9, 8, 7: orbs 1-8 in order
Space: realign camera (not used often)

[keen meteor]

Uh what's that idk the names

[crystal rune]

what the hell

[keen meteor]

Is that her hold ult?

[crystal rune]

worry

[thin trail]

Hold ULT (Finality)

[keen meteor]

Yeah u nees to do the new leap rotation

[thin trail]

Need to fill up her gauge before doing that?

[orchid owl]

Bro is using both of his hands to fight

Meanwhile I use 1

As long as there is no BA input

[keen meteor]

Yeah hold ult with full gauge

[thin trail]

Understood

Thank you, mate

catblush

[trim apex]

I find this to be the most comfortable and gives me the most control tbh

[keen meteor]

Oh u have the orbs on ur right hand

My orbs are 1234vcxz

[keen meteor]

Np np!

[crystal rune]

my orbs are 12345 mb4 mb5 middle mouse button

xdd

[trim apex]

ye I'm right handed, so it feel "right"

[keen meteor]

Now that I think about it my controls are so inefficient. Just dodge and BA on right hand and we rarely use dodge

[orchid owl]

🤨

[keen meteor]

I am too. But my left hand carries

[orchid owl]

QERT1234 orbs
Eat me

[crystal rune]

wth qe

[orchid owl]

F G for swap/qte

[trim apex]

Ishmael, Vera, Vergil: Are we a joke to you

[trim apex]

league player spotted

[orchid owl]

I am a jhin main if anything

https://tenor.com/view/jhin-gif2-gif-18689169

[keen meteor]

Lol tru
Ive never played vergil tho maybe I should try it some time

[peak halo]

Same
I mean kinda f my 8th ping
T my qte

[orchid owl]

Bro could fit in pgr universe no diff

His bullets kill you the moment they hit but also freeze your body in time permanently

[rose yew]

1234
Ctrl+(1234)

[orchid owl]

[peak halo]

Mmo player

[crystal rune]

Lilick

[orchid owl]

There's a reason kuro advertised it as segs skin

[keen meteor]

Okay I go mald void now

[peak halo]

Nice triangle

[orchid owl]

@crystal rune you know Naj?

[crystal rune]

whos that

[orchid owl]

Nvm then

Whale though

[peak halo]

New plane

[orchid owl]

I wanted to ask how much you spend on average

[crystal rune]

gawd

oh

i dont spend

[orchid owl]

I can only do like 75-80$ a month

[crystal rune]

i just pilot xdd

[orchid owl]

Deadass?

[crystal rune]

ye

[orchid owl]

Isn't that boring? Or you just do it to compete

[crystal rune]

nah to me it isnt boring

i get high scores and i like that worryCoke

and yea i like to do ppc and ib

[orchid owl]

Understandable

[crystal rune]

i dont really have any attatchment to my main either so ig theres also that

[icy otter]

@crystal rune Luna leap or no

Void is undone right I might find a way on Sunday

[crystal rune]

do it

its free score

[icy otter]

Yea but like

Is the leap doable

Or am I broke

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902962401157210213.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dead

[crystal rune]

idk

[compact yoke]

Why you don't have enough leap wafer chips @icy otter

[steady otter]

Time to practice

Happy week end guys

[compact yoke]

The rotation ?

[icy otter]

Idk

[crystal rune]

happy weekend windwhelao Selena_Ohayo

now do 7 mado 4worryknife

[steady otter]

Im old

Cant 7 anymore

[carmine reef]

Windbellao

[steady otter]

[crystal rune]

broke

get younger

foutain of youth exists somewhere

[icy otter]

Time to do TAS run

6s

[steady otter]

Did we have any info about fast rot 2x ult ss0 liv ?

[icy otter]

Nergidalao give him the tech

[crystal rune]

hold dodge twice for both rots

broke

[steady otter]

Just it ?

[icy otter]

Dalao

[steady otter]

No lacking orb ?

[crystal rune]

idk she seems so fixed

[compact yoke]

For the fast ult you start with 21 then you swap to liv

There's also a nanami rot

[peak halo]

Why not start nana
And ish instead 21

Ohh wait ss0

[steady otter]

what is chinise name of liv ?

[cold walrus]

try luna frfr

[carmine reef]

Start amp and do 1 fast ult liv and then swap to nana
After that you have more flexibility with liv later in the run

[carmine reef]

Lifu

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/phrolova-gif-1119392749854539790

[cold walrus]

frame name or her personal name?

[steady otter]

cn name

in game

[cold walrus]

丽芙

[steady otter]

thx

[crystal rune]

gawd

[steady otter]

丽芙 战双帕弥什

i can fit 2x ult at beginning with in amp duration buff
but it was ss3

[crystal rune]

so whel

[steady otter]

need ss0 acc

[crystal rune]

i have ss0

but sss nana

liv_run

[compact yoke]

You literally can do nana rot with liv

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1319546719972757534/a4b89894ed531fdc-1.gif

[lilac carbon]

I'm late to the party, why is 4 sig not usable on anything but S+ Liv?

[gray cairn]

It is usable its just worse ^

[cobalt prawn]

Wait guys

I’m seeing ppl say that 4pc Natasha is bugged

And not working properly

[lilac carbon]

By ab out how much?

[cobalt prawn]

Which is why it’s worse than Heisen?

[gray cairn]

Turned out to be fake natasha just sucks

[cobalt prawn]

Oh ok

[warped axle]

memo reso for Vera df?

[gray cairn]

Barley a difference at ss

[lilac carbon]

Already Hypertuned Natasha so if it's worse by like 3-5% then I won't bother.

[cobalt prawn]

4 bath, 2 guin 2 cottie

[lilac carbon]

SSS.

[cobalt prawn]

~10% from dummy test

Bit more

Oh for sss idk

This was for ss

[warped axle]

gacha players can't read

its always true

[dawn cloak]

Dont waste HT
Wait for next week for more proper test on warzone and ppc
This is what it feels being synced and blind no foresight

SSS changes the memo reso to ult anyway, so maybe Natasha still being better

[keen sable]

so whats the score difference in dmg natasha on liv vs heisen?

[dawn cloak]

No warzone no score lol
Wait next week

[faint monolith]

Lmao good thing I chose to harmo Natasha instead of Cottie on weap

[keen sable]

[gray cairn]

Helps that both her sets require cottie

[dawn cloak]

~~ good thing I skip Liv so Im immune to these bs ~~

[rose yew]

[dawn cloak]

[quaint pilot]

Is SS limpidity much stronger than alpha SSS3?

[warped axle]

memo reso fur vera df?

[rose yew]

That’s one off the bingo sheet

[dawn cloak]

Maybe
Wait next week for proper test on warzone ppc

[warped axle]

I hate this game I'm buying thunderbolt

[idle badge]

is there an up to date sheet or list of best teams and what characters they use

[rose yew]

Up to limpidity? No

[steady otter]

ok SS0 is brick

lmao

another midanca cases

[idle badge]

well can be previous patch also or one before

[warped axle]

kuro try not to make attackers mid challenge (impossible)

[dawn cloak]

So main difference is Liv SS3 is better
While Bonca SS3 still kinda mid

[rose yew]

Well there’s one stored inside celica bot

[dawn cloak]

Correction
SS0 attacker being mid

[gray cairn]

Me with ss3 bianca

[rose yew]

oh wait I forgot that bot is dead

[warped axle]

class skill or ultimate

[dawn cloak]

Dont worry shes still good SS3
But her SSS is just a whole different beast

[warped axle]

well, not everyone is 🐳

[compact yoke]

Dps or support

[dawn cloak]

Just wait next week bro, let them meta ppl test it all out

[faint monolith]

I hate how true that is

Nana truly the greatest carry this game has ever seen

[icy otter]

That's gonna be every unit going forwards

And once again

It's nanamis fault

[faint monolith]

[dawn cloak]

[jovial matrix]

controversial opinion from watanabe pfp, can't say i am surprised

[icy otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[jovial matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/pvz-loonboon-walnut-gif-25564211

[faint monolith]

Should've taken the sign when they made her sig as just a dmg increase

Nana cursed us all

[jovial matrix]

what's the ss3 parhelion no dlt rotation

or shouldi just end my life i mean get dlt

[steady otter]

lemme record the different

[faint monolith]

Gotta pray that Rosetta holds up to Nana's greatness as dark tank or else we're cooked

Kuso better not miss

[dawn cloak]

Why so sure shes a tank?

[jovial matrix]

it's cope

[dawn cloak]

They said she gonna have form change
Which only ever appear on attackers

[faint monolith]

Cuz am sick of seeing daren

[dawn cloak]

Nah bro
Daren meta till 2030 bro just accept it

[faint monolith]

NO

[jovial matrix]

teddy more likely dark tank

[faint monolith]

No fk that