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Ye
strong core
Wise words
so i was wasting mine resource for natasha??????

bruh
i have 15k sim currency
i fcking hypertuned natasha
i mean
fk ezra 
if liv use 4 hei then what 3S nana use? 4 hei too or 4 cott?
nana same build
Setsu is testing heisen Fran cottie rn
Ye
Who is the best SS3 for standard pull S rank choice, i was debating between Selena SS3 or Hanying SS3'
Fran
testing where
3S nana use 4 cot or 4 hei?
wtf
<@&595893856554319873>
another opne?
<@&595893856554319873>
4cot in ignition, 4heisen anywhere else
mods, skin his balls
kk
Feed him to red tide
Heisen cottie vs Fran heisen cottie
Do we have ss3 priority list?
im just gonna hold off building limpidity altogether
for ss3 void using ss3 geiravor better than sss lilith?
im looking for that too
I guess i can ss3 nanami then
check pins
Would 3S Wanshi better than 3S Wata in nihil team? Considering both luna and ish doesn't have any reso and both wanshi and wata do
are there no options for cubs for Ishmael and Luna if you dont have their sig?
whats luna leap rot for warzone?
4 cottie and 4 heisen?
4 and 4???? How
5 star weapon harmony thing
its Harmony
ah yes, the milking
ye, waste ht mats 
i can't believe it either her memory sig isn't bis until SSS+ wtf
whats the actual build then...

The red one?
these
(no wayyy)
fran has to be the biggest meme
anyways so what is the build
are people using darwin or wut
😭
idk
lowk im just gonna go 4 sig 4 cottie
just dont ht it
fk i waste mine ht mats
yeah now just activate it so you'll have 4+4

you want me to go 4 heisen instead?
Best resonance wp skill?
Thx
you can go 4 nats but just dont ht incase 4hei is better when testing on wz next week
Guys, which one is better, SS liv or SSS3 cw?
does heisen even retrigger?
if its already on nanami
idk man 
Liv SSS3 better
No trigger
Even donno why is better
Sss wata or sss vera for nihil
Its like wanshi and qu
sss wanshi
oh wait
right you need a healer
I keep forgetting we have a parhelion now
💔
Sss vera if sss ish
Sss wata if ss ish
Atleast my eyes
Or i just skill issue with wata on nihil
what about SSS lilith? my uncle is SSS, vera SS3, ish SS3
@crystal rune hey cutie
2 fran 2 heisen 4 cottie better ? Idk, Liv's builds change very quickly
Still testing
Better wait for light zone testing
It’s either 4heisen or 2fran 2heisen so can build 4cottie 2heisen
rip mine ht mats 
same w
What abt sss lilith. Same thing?
Btw get SSS+ Liv then
Donno
Some malder saing wata better if low rank ish
K
does leap luna needs DLT anymore?
I cant test cuz sss ish
What biS resonance wp skills for LIV?
wait a minute what did you reso bottom?
just grab dlt for now
and change it otherwise if you dont need it
you can always change weapon reso later
And other 2?
you're r3'ing her?
What?
Also
Sss piano wz rot?
Written rot pls
Im SS0 Liv
r3 means resonance 3
Seems like nope
Nah I use my ppc scar thing
anyone got glaciation rotation? i checked the pinned docs there was only elements not affix
30 shards free
https://youtu.be/BoYvc7f_hFQ?si=iekKOE9lBiHDw0C7
Testing SSS R1 Luna without DLT yesterday
Ishmael SSS | SS cub | R3 (DD, IN, DLT) | 4 Sototh 4 Cottie (6 atk 6 ult)
Luna SSS | S cub | R1 (GA) | 4 Cleopatra 2 Cottie 2 Einsteina | 6 atk 6 ult
Vera SSS | SS cub | R3 (GS, Ray, IN) | 4 Da Vinci 2 Guinevere 2 Cottie (6 atk 6 class)
Vera gei, Ishmael and Luna ?
Yeah
for amp buff
does ishmael only need SS?
Best nihil team for wz?
Can someone tell me what character should I get in this Blue Target like Pyroth, Selena, Vera, or A Copy Ishmael?
Luna, Ishmael, and some Random Tank like Nanami: Honkai Star Rail.
as the amplifier so ishmael can be a tank dps, cause without amp she'll automatically fill it in. if u don't have her any amp work.
What memories can I give Selena if I plan to keep her up to SS with her signature weapon?"
ishmael can become a tank if ur team has an amplifier
so for nihil, u generally want to use amplifier so that ishmael can be a tank (tank is when she can do most dps)
does ishmael only need SS?
Thx

yeah, SS is fine
nice finally a doable character that doesn't need ss3
u really want her SS3 though
but what about sig weapon
she needs sig too
Do u not felt that ish skin do everything a bit slower?
Not actuall timely just visually to me
r2 if u can
r2?
True. A bit slower than normal one
Vera is more universal and using in 7+ team.
Second choice is Selena
What is r2
Two weapon resos
resonance 2
do we have a dark flow amp?
vera
Vera
At first, I didn't understand when her ult animation ended before I could press blue3p + ult1, which was a bit unusual. However, it actually works the same way. In terms of timing
oh cool
First one?
Vera is also can solo darkflow dps with wata and lilith
Lower resonance?
well we have limpididdy now
does glow have a team yet or nah
core
Thx
I see, so I need the Vera: Yandare.
Ofc, but this is an alternative option. Not everyone will receive Limpidity, and there are should always be alternatives
Yeah kinda same experiance then
all wz is glow wz for wz malders cuz they are glowing with joy during their mald 
damn, name limit, im so grateful I named this before the change

what's the limit now? 3 letters? 
8
also this ui is so clean bro omg
garbo kuso should get it through their thick skullz, we are not ching chong, we don't use alien symbols to describe 7 novels with just 3 characters 
SS R1 ishmael now a little better then SSS R0 wata/nana in dark warzone. So, she is so amazing
Lmao
what is the top 1 resonance for ishmael?
Mem or wep?
SSS wata or SS3 vera for ignition?
In nihil DLT, tank role DD, amp role 8% atk buff
do you have a memory build including harmony for ishamel?
Wp Resonance for Liv pls
You can change it at any time, choose any one, and test DLT or GA.
Vera
that... doesnt feel right


it looks like it has like no shred at all
You can use da vinci + einstenia in Nanami btw
If ur nanami SS/SS3, SSS wata would be so good. More ignition shred and -3 sec CD
anyone know how to stack glaciation w 3s wanshi
Shake cottie on vero maybie help too
ignore mems for now
just the setup alone
Then nvm
on one hand geiravor fire damage? but fire is kinda buns..???
on the other hand wata shred
where is your sss nana? 
Enter core with holddodge
Not redorb
nah :/
im not big phat phucking whel
Nanami 4 Herschell 4 cottie
Aegis 4 shakespeare 4 cottie or 4 shakespeare 2 cottie 2 Guinevere
Epitaph 4 alphonse 4 da vinci
Try it
bro is never leaving dv.
Is Natasha useless
mine ht mats
setsu saying a different thing every 2nd hour
just wait for 2 months before building her, save your mats 
It's fine u prolly still need nat for ppc lol and put heisen on nanami
also isnt it 4 shakes 4 keats for aegis?
No way Heisen liv is better in ppc 0 chance

why no way? we already have some cases where we ditch sig mems in favor of ele mem sets, a lot em actually
thanks the glaciation vids i see on yt only have video wo explanations and i can't see which buttons 

But i need to build df liv for cradle lol
I thank the heavens that my luck isn't crap today
I only have to more days to get proper info on df build
what
You will use duo swap nanami and aegis in this squad, and you will need to give up 3-4 ult nanami and 3 aegis. You will have a lot of problems with keats. You will almost give up the entire swap for one ult
And ss aegis can 2 time ults in amp buff
No i mean i need df for cradle now
I don't have glacion

What other zone
I lazy ro do in works day
Wrong channel
Dark fire physical
Fire is mid physical is mid
People do dark and glacio but my glacio bricked
Df scores pretty well i need the build
class skill or signature move for ignition veronica
im gonna play ss0 liv for the first week or two
DF mean what? And guys which team is best to clear clash reflection?
and see if I like her kit before committing to the ss3
So dark phys for me
But yeah then build df
That build surly no change
Damn this is first time for a character that I see signature mem not being used in any build
do i need to fully build No.21 for Liv team or just keep her like this?
Physical is horsesh*t bro use glacion or df
Or ts if u got worrigil
Only for s+ useful in wz
gonna change 4 hei 4 cottie later, her build change so rapidly 
32.13 my phys now
oh wat is she on heisen now??
Why i glacio it
Wut about ib ppc?
I have ss3 liv
Is it Heisen cot for lightning and bathlon cot for dv?
read pin 
My dream team
Glacio slow poke
omfg...
Unless huaxu
Personally I just use 8 cottie 
why tf would a new character not be best w their sig mems....
it fine you need nata for ppc anyway
Migu strat fr
Yeah nata needed for ppc
oh well at least switching builds and teams is easy now
I have around 200k pts leftover.. time to reso heisen ig
If u put heisen liv then u run dv gloria eins nana and sam guin ish
oof
Ib ppc if dmg is abundant
All ranks go 4cot 4heisen
Liv ss0 and Nana ss3 rn
Doubt thats better than nat liv Heisen nana
Man we got cooked
Why 4 natasha only at S+?
Dem so nata is ded?
watafak 
Well
My ht mats cooked
Cuz its only about the ‘stacked’ ult being beneficial

Im just gonna keep my nana build for now
I blame all misinfo on Ezra
Unmod him
4 heisen 4 herschel
same
And u don’t only apply dmg sole with stacked ult

Why them do mems which benefical
What is that grammar
#punishinggrayraven #nihil #ishmael #luna #oblivion #watanabe #herowarzone #void #mobs #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone #pgr_cn
broken engerishu
omfg I need to hyper and reso luna mems too
For df is it bathlon on both gera and liv?
Or only bathlon liv and sam guin gera?
Sorry i sht with english
Stacked ult? Can you explain?

the blue line on the ult icon
Both bathlon
Gera 4 bath 4 guin then?
Oh no it’s heisen and not natasha?😭
2cot 2guin
wait where do u get luna skin from again..
Ok
Already spent my resources on natasha cottie
Im having hard time finding
so what is liv ppc build still 4 hei 4 cot? 
use it for ppc
Resonances for liv limpidity, anyone? I have glorious, what's the other two?

Same
Damn man from now on I'll put 4 cottie in ht lol
Looks like everyone and their mom use 4 cot
So even if I mess up it's easy to switch
DLT
matrix lightning incand
u can do that if ur not doing only 1 stacked ult finisher
WZ = natasha cottie
PPC = heisen cottie?
Thanks!
yes
What's liv's cub's best skills to level up and equip?
wait no the other way around
Okay, thanks
last 2
heisen for wz, nat for ppc
Oh i gotta build both of them anyways
which one better tho 
How do I build Luna? Got her from that cheap bundle
Thanks
8 cottie
whats vera's darkflow build
where can i farm more exp to lv CUB?
does Luna's new leap dodge hold just completly replace the old hold basic in her rotation now?
4 bath 2 guin 2 cottie
Simulation
guin
thank you!
+1 sub for you
If liv is using heisen cottie on wz then is it fine that nanami also uses heisen sig
yes
Berore ult1 yes
When for ult2 still need hold ba
is it still core reso's or ult in ppc with nat + cottie on liv?
kill it
i think dmg only in matrix
Yes
yes but shes the amp she still uses guin
wata provides the shred
its this right?
yeah, i meant the hold basic where she consumes points before going into ult. Is there any other rotation change? I think the new, 3 ping after 3 ping, during her ult just makes the rotation faster without changing the input
Thanks. With the weapon choice pack and weapon exchange ticket, I was wondering which of the two weapons I should pick; Nanami's, Luna's, or Watanabe's
yes
4 dv on wata
I have better results without dlt (GA R1) and contiune using 2 Einstena on Luna.
But it was some first test runs yesterday
4 shales
Did this yesterday, liv can kill it. Range unit need
srsly? u just dont run dv in void now??
First ult hold ult1 and ba ult
2nds is tapult
no
why
cuz it does less
uh also shouldnt luna be on 4 cottie not 2 eins
Shakes works always, 24/7, dv have cd time and works only 2 sec or ult in timestop
ein for duo/boss
oh right cuz luna converts the shred
and cuz wata can apply it "consistently"
pretty much constant yea
Do vera need her sig?
yes
i used wanshi and it worked, ty
has luna turned into main dps now
or ishy still doing more
what a gimmick 
ish still more
acc ig for me she will be, since she's gonna be sss and ishy ss0
What does Luna want for top and bottom?
chat why am I getting less black cards from my dailies??? I went from getting 90 to 30..
oh almost forgot, which one do you guys use
top atk bottom ult
no more 3x rewards
last patch was triple patch
this is regular income
ts on qte or no ts on qte
we'll never have it again
ever
true slash?
true slash?
How can I get more blue tickets?
wait
Tlc for time stop
Cuz time lag calculation
Should I get Nanami's, Watanabe's,or Luna's wep from these? Or should I save my ticket and decide between Luna and Wata
Wait for new events give free right?
yeah there's a login reward for tickets somewhere i think
Lmao the whale emoji is funny considering iv only bought 2 skins and the monthly pass once
Also anyone can give me
Sss selena written rot for phys?
any of those are good picks
Buttom top1 is also good?
Test
What
I will sit baby, even do all your ppc/wz
||then ima spend all your cards and delete all your equipment
||
ayo pulao
No cd room
On the condition of pulling at least twice on fate banner daily

#퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #퍼니싱 #pgr
#pgr #pgr_cn #퍼니그레 #wutheringwaves #명조 #퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #퍼니싱 #hanying #empress #solacetune #phys #glacio #세레나 #희성 #selena #pianissimo
00:03 ss0 phys rot
00:40 ss3 phys rot
01:15 sss phys rot (SAME SSS+)
01:48 ss0~ss3 glacio rot
02:10 sss glacio rot (SAME SSS+)...

U said 1 tap
I don't get the joke
Np im not a funny pps
Im thinking of saving the ticket for a future character ngl. Would Watanabes or Luna's wep be a better pick from this
both are good picks
just up to you
the uh
new open area
Idk
fym idk 😭
Dawg
dorm? in a week
fokkkk
Helping
read patch notes
@plain oyster bianca is so sick, this mob needed lightning attacks and glow worked 
where ur liv limp 
on alt
gambled and lost
farming cards

ahhh ic
finally doing stronghold on this account
anyway answer me keklena glacio set pls!!!!!!!
alr
that's a good one 
i got funny jokes sometimes
Which one should I pull I just get this free should I pull ishmael or Liv . Liv I can only play her in darkflow team I don't have lighting team
why would you pull arrival
who did you pick from thunderbolt manual?
Old mistake
I pick Watanabe for Dante team
💀
Didn't know it suppose to be nanami

might as well just wait for anniv banner than waste your pulls on a 70/30
nathan, for ish build on dark tank offelement is 4dv 4 sloth?
yeah
someone supply me endless ht mats so i can test sh*t myself
her sig set shreds i think
class reso?
i think
is the 70/30 hard to get
what i get if i dont win
random s-rank
one of the other rate up units
whatever the other 2 are
there is nanami though
and the third?
cat girl robot
Actually
He will get any other unit that is an S rank
feral
if you planning on pulling on arrival, just... don't
we will have anniv banner, 100% rate up there and you can get anyone up to midanca there (can select anyone, and change it as many times as you want)
no its not like that anymore
its one of the 3
No?
It's like that for weapon
So apparently Liv sig mem is bugged? 4 pc effect doesn't work as intended
same with arrival pretty sure
there is a calibration system in it too
its still bad but
not that bad
my nat mats still have some use
i cant use that. i using that for nanami not ishamel
you can pull there infinite amount of chars, there is no limit on anniv banner
@hazy sandal is df 4 cot 4 bath final?
and just to be clear, I am not talking about the blue/basic banner selector, that's a different banner
so Natasha's bugged 
oh
if Liffu runs Heis, what does Nanaknight use?
so when the anniversery banner
thats altera no?
2-3 weeks, can't remember which
No thats CEO of Seggs, the dude on Twitter
This doesn't work
I reported to them a bug 2 years ago about audio, they still didn't fix it, probably due to spaghetti code
think 3, anniv is on the 3rd of December
Now that everyone's bugged, we will get compensations
ok i wait
Heh heh heh
dv gloria eins for ppc heins sig for wz most likely
trying to find that schedule image, but can't see it in pins now 
it should be here in 1-2 weeks, I think
so should i get liv if ican only use her in darkflow team
Nope
Try 4 heisen or 2 gloria 2 eins
this is right?
just compensate enough ht mats for 2 sets im happy
way better than bs 500 bc compensation
ok
But wait for now because we don't even know if we're getting Darkflow boss in the future
on the Nanami?
won't she need her sig? 
4 herschell and the other 4 / 2-2 piece
Does anyone have a good geiravor build for WZ
50 BC take or leave it 
pak u
nana sig is only self dps
Bros what does it mean when people say things like 2.132.1 113
fak u
Instead of inca on bianca, use GA
Otherwise seems good
Build annotation
Somebody give img
yeah ik, she'll need it for wz no?
oh yeah everything back to old age right no longer extra rewards?
thats why i said in my first reply duh

If Bianca SS/SS3 & Lilith SSS:
- Ish 4 sototh 4 da vinci,
- Bianca 4 jeanne 4 bathlon
- Lilith 4 Barcelo 4 Cottie
If Bianca SS/SS3 & Lilith SSS (tank Wata/nana)
- Wata 4 da vinci 4 bathlon
- Bianca 4 Jeanne 2 Darwin 2 Einsteina or 4 Jeanne 4 Cottie
- Lilith 4 Barcelo 4 Cottie
Bianca SS/SS3 is sub dps for sss lilith and higher. Wata procs 4pcs bathlon always 24/7. Bianca is not. Lilith just lost some dps.
5 ult in Bianca SS also works. In the last warzone I have 4.8M score with double bathlon (wata/bianca) and 5.5 score with 5 ult SS Bianca.
If ur Bianca SSS, Lilith on any rank is sub dps. Even S+ lilith.
If Bianca SSS:
-
Ish 4 Sototh 4 Bathlon
-
Lilith 4 DV 2 Guinevere 2 Cottie
-
Bianca 4 Jeanne 4 Cottie
-
Wata/nana 4 Da vinci 4 bathlon
-
Lilith 4 Barcelo 4 Cottie
-
Bianca 4 Jeanne 4 Cottie
Lilith with Ishma and sss Bianca wears DV set. Because she cant deal dps without Ishma off-field shred. Only 5 ult bianca can deal dmg. (12 sec ishma field shred)
Im checked all of it and results in my YT channel
Can I use this build
As sub dps
ye one of the few times ingame build uis actually right
4 Cottie 4 Shake
Main DPS build
She's no sub DPS

How the hell Luna would get orbs w/o DLT? Like whats the Luna rot here
Lightning is finalized,
For darkflow
4Bathlon should be there no matter what
so mine wata is SSS but rn mine ish is SS3(will be SSS when anniver banner) which one should i use?
2cot should be there too
for the basic target, ss3 crepscule, geiravor, startrail, or wait?
Btw how good is leap luna so far?
SSS ishmael better then SSS wata/nana in dark wz
with sss lilith ishma (sss) always better
With sss+ lilith sss ishma =+- sss wata/nana
alr thanks
So damn good
Make her a legit gen 3 in term of power
Apparently set isn’t working?
Bugged set yes
I mean
It only buffs ‘stacked’ ultimate
ok ok thanks
i was seeing people saying nat is bugged is that true?
Startrail best choice if you are sure you can keep up with characters without basic
?
First time heard
i doubt ill even have ht mats left for df gera after building liv
@hazy sandal
Whats livs sss rotation
df liv uses core as well below 3s right?
I got ss3 Bianca and have been using 4bath on her. I should swap 4bath on Wata then?
Also on the topic of 4bath. Does 4 sig/4bath work on Wata with Vera holding DV in DF?
assuming SS Vera only
how the... how long has parhelion been out in global?
this whole time, I haven't r1'd her
U don't have lilith?
bout 6-8 months i guess
ive used over 100k simu mats on liffu only lmao
Wata sig mem works only in ignition, darkflow and fire zones.
With wata/nana bathlon bianca is worse then 2 darwin 2 einsteina.
4 cottie 5 ult is the best for SS/SS3 Bianca with watanabe/nanami
Bathlon pardon
just found 2 xtra usb 
I do but there’s no reason to change her build from 4sig 4Cottie right?
I just don't understand why you're using Vera instead of Lilith in the Dark Zone
Oh so go 5ult Bianca
For Vera I said in DF
Darkflow
Bianca SS | R1 (DLT) | 4 Jeanne 4 Cottie (6 atk 6 ult 12 tunes) | SS Cub
Watanabe SSS | R0 | 4 Bathlon 4 Da Vinci (6 class no tunes) | No cub
Lilith SSS | R2 (DLT, Ray) | 4 Barcelo 4 Cottie (6 atk 6 ult 12 tunes) | S cub
So with Wata you go ult spam Bianca, with Karen you do 4pc bath on Bianca?
LMAO
so
that means when it does get fixed
it may have a chance to be better than the uh
heisen

I think yes
SB is doing fast ult
you don't need to do max stack to use the delicate hearts
more stacks just means more dmg
this has been a hillarious arc
👍 assume will be updated on the sheet?
I wasn't gonna touch it until we got some df content
which I assume will be week 2
Wait so
Is it true that 4 Nat isn't proccing?
Kuso
first lightning 2nd df, but they could troll
I am talking about darkflow why asking natasha
Could i use lilith as a substitute for lightning amp? Dont have enough resources for ishmael supp set
Lemme see
Next week
nope
You can't
You need Plasma Beam effect to be active for Lilith to even give Lightning buff
Hm?
So ishmael still better even without her supp set?
20% lightning buff (with sig)
4 guin
4 dv
Ofcourse
Need guides on nihil team builds
I don't know if Luna changed her resonance or not
But
What do you have rn
SSS3 Luna - SSS Ishmael
Oh I see
Wata sig mem should work for void too right?
Cause Luna class
Also you didn’t answer my other question of darkflow Wata running sig/bath while Vera (SS) running DV/guin
You have
SSS Vera ?
yeah
Whel zone
Luna : 4 Cleo 4 Cottie
Ishmael : 4 Sothoth 4 Cottie (6 atk 6 ult)
Vera : 4 DV 4 Guin
Lol what i see vid where natasha 4pcs didn't work
No x2 Ein on Ishmael huh, glad I asked then
If i could do an extra rotation on liv, do i do the extra rotation then switch to nanami?
said the whel 
You can try that too
Harmo changing
I need to remember ishmael rot first, I forgot it after the first time I tried her warzone months ago
LMFAO
Been benching her forever
Nothing changed with Luna rotation though after the leap right
Just no dodge I hear to cut on downtime?
everything changed lmao
In darkflow vera good sub dps for liv, 4 bathlon 2 guin 2 cottie
And yeah, wata sig mem should be working in void but im not tested it yet
I have never invested in wata beyond SS3, hope he gets replaced soon enough
nahh too early
https://huaxu.app/na/players/22273532/characters
i have a free selector that goes up to nanami and the blue target, any recommendations? Im thinking ishmael and vera gera
Explore the 22 characters of Dcao from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Isnt he on the copping block
who else is earlier than him
yes because sig mem helps the offield bombardment shred
he just got leap 1 patch ago
Is it by leap?
Is oblivion's leap for an affix?
Hoping for the best SSS tank to get replaced
She already has affix, leap is to fix gameplay
I just dont enjoy his gameplay or design
Like gen1 leaps
Oh okay
Yeah, his leap lets you never swap to him lol
Odd, mind explaining a bit?
-3s swap and 24/7 qte bombardment
needs sss right
You only need to level up his qte leap for 24/7 off field shred
Yeah. Which is free cause leap makes him in voucher shop
I have better uses for vouchers but I might end up throwing a bit on him then I guess
I will wait for leaks on the next frame first though
Tbh he’s probably the best voucher investment for SSS rn
He’s meta in fire, ignition, dark, darkflow, void
He cant replace SSS Ishmael right
Ehhh depends
2 tanks in ignition?
In void or dark?
Whos better between SS r2 vera n 3S r1 lilith for ss3 void duo
Void
Depends.
With Dante he replaces Nana, without Dante, Nana is ignition dps and Wata has better fire shred
Unless you also have SSS Nana in which case I think Vera is better 3rd slot
im done too lazy to mald for 7m 
Yup this
You use with Ishmael
DAWG
wait what
4 Natasha isn't proccing itself
lmao?
ss3 feral any better than ss0 ishmael?
SS3 feral has nothing
Mid unit can’t even use her own set
WAIT
No?
Vera mid
Funny init

Welcome to powercreep
Tencent agenda in practice folks
Wdym tencent
Liv locked TF in
PGR always had powercreep
only wuwa not pgr bruh
No no
If nanamis switch timer is finished do i immediately switch to nanami? Or can i just continue with liv since mine is sss?
not this bad with limited banner which we dont know when will rerun
or if it will ever rerun
Limited banner is bad yeah
But powercreep isn’t anything new
Aye
I meant the combination of things happening right now
my bad
does sss feral beat ss0 ishmael?
Rn
Delicate Heart (Ult stacks) increases ult damage by 7.5% per stack (max 12)
If 4 Nat worked it'll be 15% per stack

so the rots gonna be 1 full ult 1 fast ult?
Extra 10% at max stacks too
wym worked 
thats something
Liv can be skulled? For ss?

??
erm
So is it working or not

But it did more dmage with 4 nat
kuro cant even make a working memory set 
EoS
just the raw stats damage?
its a good thing though just means shes gonna be stronger when they fix the set
yea like 1/20 of the bar
That's not even close enough to what 12 Delicate heart's 15% (4 nat effect) buff should do
still
In the long run its better


glad i didnt build her yet 
180% Base Damage Buff from 4 Nat
same 😄
i dont think he understand how much double dmg does in the this game
Liv also does good dmg with core, while Nat only ult
Yeah basically only the raw stats damage buff is better
Thats why Heisen
Wait livs memories arent working?
im just gonna wait till the next lightning zone to actually build her
Bro did the smart move and not waste ht mats
Like me
Holy no chat cooldown

I didnt hyper her memories yet to be fair
Lmao what? So her damage is absurd without her memories
I was waiting to SS3 or SSS first
what we complaining about yeah
is this normal like the effects for the "corrupted" things? kinda glitchy and the ones that are supposed to be on stand by are showing like that
My brain got fried seeing Ishmael rotations again
sigh
What is this bs of QTE rotation and non QTE rotation
Look man
If this 4 Nat even works
And if it's not that strong
As Setsu said
4 Heisen 4 Cottie

show 4 heisen 4 cott dmg in trial
Is ishmaels rotation as a amplifier different from her tank rotation?
so what does nanami hold if liv is using heisen?
All the other videos like to prolong the video into 5-10minute marks which I hate
till heisen
lmao
So if 4 nat is actually supposed to be that weak does that mean that i wasted reso mats?
this

I will probably still use CW until I SSS Limp first
QTE artillery
Unless I see SS3 Limp going beyond 7m mark warzone with Nanami
Trust in new lightning amp 
im doing the rotation right?
Why are you walking? 
Waste of time
Also sorry, it seems like they all are still S0?
should be

Start Wata -> immediately swap to Vera, then ult fast
Lucia S8 Vera S4 and Wata S3
Meta stuff all starts at SS0, free from pain cage
If its only wata thats S0 is fine, means dont even swap to him ever
oh okay
Yeah no lmaoooooooo
Get one to SS0 first yeah?

Hes probably new
welp, you have no human right if below SS0 
I would not hold it against him
Getting skulls to SS0 isnt easy without globalization
Wata can stay at S0 first
Also better focus on one unit to SS0 first, dont spread out like that
SS0 is minimum for meta endgame stuff, especially dps
people told I will take 2 months per character
Ngl the future income skull is worrying
So many new S ranks but still same skull income 
Yeah at least 3 banners
okay I should go for Vera first?
700-800 skulls for 2 patch iirc
or Liv since she is new?
Lucia is closer to SS0, her first
Then Vera
okay
38 days is what 5 weeksh
hes in the first cage not the second
I dont know what they get
6 for us, bcs patch ends on monday/tuesday
48 skull max at 1m pts
Ult ppc is 60 max at 1.8m, extra 6 if entered ib
you guys said about not walking but how I do that? I just attack and thats it?
mean while my skull never running out 
use pings
whale
okay
is Liv: Limpidity weak cus its a Limited-Time Character?
I am pretty sure half of those skulls are from whaling
3ping, swap, ult, etc
For meta, every 0.5 sec counts
She may be weak at SS0
But amazing at SS3
If youre f2p low on pulls, can wait for next patch beta test first, before pulling Liv
or the order is wrong too?
Try use this as reference
Its fire team pure SS0 and low invest
Would say that channel also good as starter to follow meta
https://youtu.be/sZCdfDDlRsc?si=tNpmQ8xcQt8tMGij
0:00 Fire
4:17 Builds
#퍼니싱 #pgr #grayraven #パニグレ #战双帕弥什 #warzone #watanabe #leap
thx so much
Theres other vids on that channel for Pyro and Vera rotation, should be useful too if this one still too hectic for beginners
This is ishmael rot? Why hold dodge after first ult?
Dont ask me, I am brain dead copying empress
Is it same invest?
SS3 and above
And what's your invest
SSS
Then what
SS3 has different rot than SSS
How good is live
Shoud I pull her more?
At wich rank is she better?
Or just pull 1 time
Pull 1 time if you are f2p, she gets a significant power spike at SSS but she is still good at SS0
If youre low on pulls, I personally suggest to wait next week
So the meta players can do real test run for her SS0 capabilities
Shes strong enough at SS0
But in beta, she barely beats solo Nana score on warzone. We dont know if shes buffed now or not
Also solo Nana was so good bcs she can take advantage of the better amp buff with solo comp (+Luna +Lilith) compared to Liv+Nana comp which needs to use SS0 Feral/Ishmael as f2p
Her significant spike is at SS3 btw
Cuz shes reliant on core passive
But yea, so many new S ranks coming up, if youre no spender, wont recommend to go SS3
I mean I just pulled her 2 times so how many of her copys woud I need for her
Or is kt even worth it
ok so wz SSS ishmael rot (I didn't invent this, I saw it on ishmael debut from a dalao)
swap-in, ult 1, yellow, red, red, dodge, dodge, ult 2
blue, ult 1, red, dodge, hold dodge, ult 2
hold dodge, ult 1, red, dodge, hold dodge, ult 2, swap out (luna)
colors mean 3 ping of color
If you mean you got her 2 times thats already SS3 (with free skulls to rank up)
Best to stop there and get her wp+cub
Got it thanks
iirc it was in a video with all of the elements rotation
SS3-SSS0 ishmael rots
SS3 use type 3
SSS0 use type 1,2
Its tanky wave or ib strat
Hold dodge more shreding purple hp
oh right it was blustar
blustar my goat
This is without Vera
as @lusty minnow posted
type 1 rotation is the one I wrote down
or also with vera
same with vera just diff amp 
it's not complicated once you get it down, even though it may seem daunting at first
I have the whale selector, paid pack selector, and blue banner so i can sss3 someone if i need to. I will note that nanami is sss2 but everyone else that matters is sss. So who should i sss3
to my understanding, the reason people don't play nihil is it's not a fun zone necessarily, due to the time stop spam
i would play nihil if midmael was normal
why not wait for next char to sss, or just s+ your favorite
midmael 
doesnt make sense to stop at 3S3, unless it's a peculiar buff like daren or wanshi
Whats livs best Team?
liv, startrail, feral
Liv Nana Ishmael (or Feral)
Soon with new lightning amp ~~ I hope ~~
yeah good point no one has an overly significant sss3 buff right
nope, SSS is good stopping point for every character unless you are giga whale or have a character bias or smth
ye bought her
or if you get lucky with basic banner after sssing
s+ is like 400$ screw that
Nana SSS3 just use ur whale shard shop
iirc its nice explosion buffs
i will wait on the cub and weopen then
Shes already SSS2 right?
yeah nanami is sss2 already
I randomly got free 4-5 copies of CW and SSS+ her out of no where
but i do have blue banner still open
a whale without sss nier team? 🧱
I learned my lesson, never get collab units
she's free to evolve though you know? just use vouchers
Expiry date within half a year
Prioritize wp
Cub can try with free norman tickets, but iirc not that great below SSS Liv
Cuz it buffs her 2nd ult dmg and her ult dmg is meh
too bad CW just got kicked out the meta but at least its CW
more than that
nier was in for a while
I dont regret anything
nier was meta for quite a while tho
we might get our true slash character next tho
only time will tell if it's vergil strength or less
wasnt a whale back then so that doesnt count 
Nice you opened whale shop through her 
Now you can convert her excess shard to any shard you like
Yeah basically
I almost have Luna maxed out too
Basic banner keeps giving her to me
and the last free copy
I am almost SSS6
The $1 girl 
at a 1:10 ratio right? 
3 to 1
I might open up luna to get 40/3 shards every month if there are enough vouchers per patch
Fake whel smh 
Some people early on opened whale shop through rosetta
With the dogshet selectors that keeps giving the first 5 frames
i was think about geting it with norman tickets yes maybe i wont
if she is not main dps i wont get her 6 star wep
she is
albeit at equal invest
Liv is main dps tho, dont worry
Once the new lightning amp release, she'll get buffed more





