#📨・meta-help
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god damn scam
From gacha?
it's very worth it tho, it's probably one of the better backgrounds
select
Btw I love Ish new outfit
its really nice but since its a bit out of my budget, i will stick with my selena wedding background 
Both very crucial to have, but I would pick Qu cause without it ice rotation completely fcked up
should i invest heavily in one element team or should i get a dps for all
oh yes 500 rc bg, like me tsubrick bg 
I would not recommend investing into Qu at this point tbh
i'm still very undecisive on what one to get tbh, i have 10k bc and i really want both
He talking abt free selector
I know
Then what to do, get a copy then reso with that?
wanshi coat worth or nah?
theres free selector?where
Save it for now
Up to you
Weapon banner, haven't seen yet
mmmm
oh the wp selctor upto luna?
Yeah
i have all sigs so i just used it to put dlt on liv
karen is eternal
choose whatever, free reso
yep
crimson weave skin is for spending buying 5 RC right? i didnt get mine
for recharge
i dont like how they changed the font
old one was better
Check mail
not spending your old rc
It's in mail lol
yeah i am just gonna get qu sig cus i hate ice rotation
not in mail
No save the selector for now
💔
Even I just started this game 1 month ago 
that for recharge, not using old patch rc
Qu might get replaced in the near future
saved an instant replay. can i go knocking on kuro game's door now
Ice team really sucks bro 
you gotta pay 1$ to get that skin
Shes almost dead bro
Soonest to die is Qu
Unless u have Wata and Luna sig already
It doesnt count if you already recharged?
She will ve for sure
i did and then spent that 5 rc on luna shard
Hi is Darkflow Liv using x4 Bathlon?
nope, it only count on new recharge
i have luna sig that why i am thinking if i should go for wata or qu sig
Lmao what a fcking scam
Wata sig bro
Far more useful in a long run
welp ppl paying 1$ for luna anyway 
Just save it for now, use it later
~~ save till EoS ~~ 
go claim in event tab
I wonder how much money Kuro will make off of that
PGR and $1 
Name a better duo
wait a sec leme send my instant replay
what am i saving it for tho
Can I ask what mem should I use on Liv for Darkflow WZ?
Until future units get releaced that could possible replace the current ones
I have a feeling someone in the ice team will get sacked by one of the new teased units
And there are a LOT of teased units
i mean what if both qu and wata get replaced then what 
So I would just wait before jumping the gun
Free weapon reso
go here scroll down for first time purchase
But youre losing score that way
And this is meta channel 
Qu not getting leap is a clear sign if shes dead soon

is this the correct memory set?
Harder to replace Wata
He is meta in 2 teams
And he is more useful as off ele tank qte bot
i even chose ember rather than ss3 qu
So u mean that Luna not good in meta rn right?
Kuro is unpredictable you never know what bullsht they will pull
Qu is very easy to replace
One new ice unit and shes dead
Yes
No she's still good?
wata already two years old tbh, it's time for male to be replaced
I wasnt talking ab Luna anyways
Great as ele converter
Her dmg was mid, but now good thanks to leap upgrade
while female is forever
to be fair alpha got shot by liv on both lightning and darkflow

His off field qte still useful
Im sure you've seen dark comp with SSS Wata
What liv reso skill bottom? Sig move?
6 months back to the game. hah 
slay coat ngl but im still using mine tsubrick 
Tks for advice
the tab was gone after claiming rewards without spending 5 rc first but restarting fixed it. now the next problem is it wont leme claim the skin. i should restart it once more
Gonna top up now
Brother, all objective analisys points that Attacker still easiest to replace
And Wata got leap, so two relevant element now. But also his qte is the best especially for those who dont have SSS Nana
Its clear as days which have more value
But in the end its up to u
If youre still indecisive then just save it yea, its permanent anyway 
~~ save till EoS ~~
ok its bugged out for me
So because liv is limited time on this event, will she not be on the base banner selector in 2 months?
2 pack kinda nice
We are not sure tbh
yea I've been seeing mixed answers as well so I wasn't sure either
yes it is
as in yes she will be on the banner in 2 patches?
Help who to ss3? Selena, Vera or Nanaknight
Physical: ss3 hanying, SS Veronica
Fire: ss3 Lucia, SSS wata
Lightning:
ss3 XXI, SS Liv
Or just save the blue ticket selector
this kinda mid, 400rc for 1 copy. Greedy kuso
anyone got the new liv reso guide?
no she not gonna be in base banner
It seems unlikely but we have no way to be certain so let's refrain from making uncheckable statements
nana
I'll just SS her for now then and wait to see
solon already stated it
its over. im expecting black card compensation
i mean the selector is based on the character on the base banner so if shes not going in it, she wont be
Did you top up again
Oh did he?
yep
nah i once topped up 10 mins ago and I have the claim button now
but game wont leme claim it
Below ss3
top atk +15
Bottom core passive
unless they make filler s rank, i can say base banner not gonna be updated after vero anymore
mmmm i am too indecisive so i am just gonna grab a wheel and spin it
gambling
Just save it for the future
try the repair button and then try again and see if it works
it doesn't?
i just used RC from my previous buy and it counted
wtf you talking abt
which do i pull ?
wot should i choose?
Meta wise, Wata sig more worth
When new ice amp released, 5* Qu is still ok anyway
New Rosetta might be ice attacker, who knows
Geiraovr
leme try
JUST SAVE IT
Most bottom two
but im sure its a server sided bug
oh it count? welp i just top up so i thought you gotta top up again 
this?
it's always from bottom when u have s cub
should i ss3 selena, bianca, or ishmael?
kekw
Yes
Yes, always the case for ALL cub nowadays
yes it counts
selena
Selena
But if you dont have Nanaknight SS3 get that first
i got that
Nana used everywhere in meta
So yea
wot memory set?
she will always prio for ss3
i thought phys really needed the qte nuke but ig i gotta get ss3 nana
there is no build on pins?
Oh wait
well for phys, it's much better if u have 333 team tbh
Nana starfarer?
startrail
LMAOOOOO
startrail
ofc 333 is better lol, but at low invest phys sucks
Meta help didnt get this pinned too
if i dont want to fully invest in a unit, what is a good stopping point for skill levels? 10?
Ezra's build 
Yea hope that is correct lol
that's why, ss3 selena is second prio after nanami
huh? why you wanna cheap out on skills?
that's literally the cheapest to upgrade
Whats 2.0 Livs rotation?
Im not putting the darkflow builds cause Im a bit skeptical of them
nah, max
max
0 
its either level 1 or max
alright thanks
ok magma on
Liffu
skill stuff doesnt count as invest, only copy or rank count
with liv im pretty sure lightning should be in a good state anyway, meanwhile phys
they really need to powercreep hanying
she sucks so much
ok ty all, i will max my fellas
even vero succ bro
Guys is this ok setup?? Ish is 2S, also have 2S Vera
purely for meta
Phys always bricked 
Vero felt scam cuz she phys fr
how will be the placing goes?
Maybe I should change something, please give me advice
vero does her job okayish, hanying is just annoying and bad
i think im just gonna go for SS3 selena since my glacio and phys are my worst teams rn
i just need her ult targeting thing in between waves to be better because why is her ult whiffing in early waves
hello
good enough
should i buy this for 3s ish or buy coat? 
Glacio content almost non existent tho
Meanwhile Nana used almost everywhere
can i steal liffu memo build
PLOOM
that depends
wdym nonexistent, you use glacio for falling star, there's also glacio boss, and wz also
If you accept Ezra's build, sure
Check pin
glacio is often used in IB
Whom knows Livs rotation?
go fate
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because erza can even bother reviving Celica
i only use nana on lightning, i play dante vero wata on ignition
What's wrong with ezra's build?
does Liffu need dlt or just ga
1x glacio wz per patch
Yea sure 
Meanwhile Nana . . .

look in IB bro
ion, burn and lightning for nana
bro nana teams rn is literally lightning and ignition, and i don't even use her on ignition since i got wata sss
and ion smh
i forgot
but ion is whatever
its broken anyway
Sorry, all I see on top is him 
hes probably dying next patch
let's wait till cradle is out of IB boss loop
3s vera or ish?
Nana
nanami
mommy 
ss3 bianca veronica hanying or ishmael
If I use Ishmael instead of Feral for Lightning, do I use her sig 4 piece with Dv or do I use Dv and Guin?
do you got selena one? i wanna decide which one to get 
How much bc?
so how does liv compare to nanami
More dmg
Broken af
328 rc
give me ur bc whel
I got em with 11k bc
U sure?
Is she buffed now on release?
is ss liv better than ss3 nana
What's better?
dv + guin
selena? isnt it alr gone?
Thanks
u can get ss with ppc skull
Ask ppl to give definite proof
Remember we all going blind here
trueslash sucks anyway
no, you can still get it
Yep, more dmg although it seems her core gives most of the dmg
ig i will ask later 
where i dont see the event
Smarter choice
No more foresight, misinfo will be more abound
oh i saw it, its doesnt show in main screen anymore that why
verified files and still not fixed. how do i contact customer support?
which orb is fater for Liv (infinita)
and is 500rc if you go for the background too isnt it'
yup
so this is it?
ish bg you can buy in top up
I did a fast ult into full ult, full ult into full ult and full ult into fast ult test for both of em, Liv does the littlest bit more dmg than Nanami and without SSS on Liv, both of em can't do their rotations in 10 sec amp buff
i meant the coating is probably same as ish if you don't go for background
Yes sir
Should I go for it
if u lucky 
ish one is amazing tho
Nana full rot is 8.5 sec tho 
the background
Vera amp OR Bianca Dark? Which one is good without their BIS weapon? 
Does the ishnael skin cost 10k
why tf are people keep asking GACHA SKIN question in #📨・meta-help
For 1 ult tho. Did you read my message?
NO OF COURSE NOT
is there ss3 priority list somewhere
Fr lol 😂
Well, the main question is
Is that the correct meta?
We're all going blind now cross server, so need more definitive proof
Oh sry I didnt noticed that
Is it priority to hold luna ultimate with her leap now or is tap still okay
Yes, it is, cuz no one else does good dmg for lightning
what flavor are you in the mood for today?
I see, you do you then
we use red orb?
alright
Should Oblivion use Cottie?
Ye
As nihil dps, yes
As everyone should
Remember CN was using dv guin Vera for whole 2 month 
Thats how misleading meta info on release day can be
does liv actually need dlt? a friend is saying she doesn't
hold ult is very good now
That's cuz they were using her at SSS+, she dealt dummy dmg at SSS+ that it wasn't worth having her on Shake 😭
the rotation now is alternate between hold and tap
Thanks
whut
They weren't wrong about the memory set, just didn't specify what investment was required for it to be useful
SSS to SSS+
you start with one hold, then one tap, then one hold if you got enough orbs, but most of the time is hold then tap and that's it
that's also at SS3, at SSS might be diff
Not always
Anyway needs more time for meta to fully develop
Dont feel offended, like I said we all now going blind, so definitive proof is more needed
It's aight I completely get it, I'm currently trying to figure out a 10 sec rotation for SS3 Liv, wish me luck
Focus on core inside amp buff
Just like Selena
Below SSS, her ult dmg isnt as good as her core
Actually, unless you do 2 fast ults into each other, there is no 10 sec rotation
Yeah I am aware about that, hence why I said most of her dmg comes from core in an earlier message
Recommend for returner?
What do you need
send huaxu link
Best answer, make sure to guide em well
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do i run 4cottie now with leap and ss3? or still einst?
still ein
Still Eins it seems
alright
the current one is godly wdym
lol
Should i get Hanying for ultima slash on anniversary?
Really, skin wars? In meta help
I have vergil and vero
Are we serious rn bruh
hmmm so you missing bianca and ishmael
on huaxu what are theses rank looking things
Should i get Hanying for ultima slash?
I have vergil and veronica
Not sure if there will be a better ultima slash tank
what build for lightning liv
if you talking those rank on top right of each unit, theyre awaken
Is rotation correct?
I have been told its also good to get selena
oh u missing selena too
4pc Signature Set 4pc Cottie (Harmo for the 2pc)
ATK + Core Passive (SS0-SS3)
ATK + Signature (SSS-SSS2)
Credits to Shi Yori

Ultima awaken ranks
Hello?
Your ultima awaken ranks
Hello, here's my huaxu, got enough for 2 pitys this patch, should I go for (geravor or shukra) + the new frame ? Will get enough during the patch for sig as well
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/27789662/characters
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No Han means phys/slash is bricked
Tho if only for slash PPC purpose, SS0 Vergil 6* sig + SS0 Vero + SS0 Rosetta is enough for 580k
But thats bare minimum
well yeah, get selena first, Nihil and dark you can use luna and lilith for dps. but phys you def need selena
I don't have Rosetta
Geiravor
Vergil wont cook?
nah
Not really no
Then get Han
Yea shes kinda bad, but also very needed for phys, considering you only missing her
SS0 not really
But SSS sure
Or is it 4 natasha
But i also don't have Selena
Worth it tho?
Use Vergil, he still okay
Why tho, I have seen ppl talking about 4 cottie and then heisen whatever
ppc vs wz
Guys, Hanying to make slash usable or Luna that got leaped because I don't have her?
Wym
Luna almost free
Only $1
liv has different builds for different modes
almost 
I am not spending money on this accursed game after what they did for this anni


So u rather dump 15k bc than $1 ? 

Like bro, its only $1

Is s+ CW better than ss liv
Your logic is fascinating

There is none
Should be
Time to test it bro
Nah
You gotta check general rn
^ Also who do I give skulls to, I have enough skulls to SS 1 person here (Including the selena I am gonna pull)
where? there's no lightning wz rn
Anything in the world deserves 1 dollar more than PGR
Some of these ppl can't understand that fundamental fact
Training room ofc 
Our favorite
Bro this is meta help, not frustration vent, please
Yes
Ok but I didn't ask for your input too so
Is SS0 Liv buffed tho?
Still not sure if SS0 Liv actually beat S+ CW
SS3 is more believable
make sense, its general anyway
Neither did anyone else in the server, like dude why be hostile, vent in the appropriate chat please
How am I hostile lol
@bleak glacier
she has qte nuke at ss3 + enhanced qte and timestop on it
Why are people even trying to compare, so people would rather spend to get S+ Alpha than S Liv?
why was I pinged here
that sht actually like a nuke than other ss3 
They may already have S+ CW bro
Who knows
Use your brain
What is your goal in pgr clearing endgame
That qte got timestop?
look in her qte

Sure, but SS0?
Is it still ass?
wait next week
next week light wz?
very likely alongside darkflow
Nothing, just having fun
hell yeah, 
Then stop coping
I am not
Guess ill ss3 liv, tho seems like 3s nanami still better in dmg
Shir said SS3 > SSS+ CW
Its not my words
I dont care how she performs I was just curious
Will we witness Liv with pwo invest run?

unlikely liv will perform in my lightning though
still need to get sig and cub
and I have sss nanami
what cub should i take after livs
RIP liv
ish mommy new coat so good, accurate with her rotation 
another liv one or someone elses
I'll take liv for darkflow though
I aint using that hobo cw
and it's liv

You know what, that's fair
i see u gonna still solo nana or play swap with liv?
Is Luna obliv still good?
will try swap with liv once I get her sig and cub
but I'll solo with nanami for now
alr
also liv has that off field dmg at ss
But still no offfield dmg for darkflow right? Bummer
affix doesn't have that though
imma test it out next week ss3 qte nuke with nana solo vs swap liv
Yep, affix shafted as always
always try to aim for double qte btw
ofc 
should i get alisa sig for glacio or just use as free reso
Between Luna, Shukra and Solacetune, who needs their sig the most?
from the selector
Only sparda brothers kinda better cuz same base element with affix
Different element affix is kinda ass for that off field
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Solacetune for meta purpose
Also Luna Shukra sig can be free from the newbie selector
oh hi my vice
Which newbie selector?
Guys for blue tickets what u pick?
the one we usually told ppl get tonitrus?
hopefully your pulls went great
Check mail

last 2 pack are good deal
No no, that was up to Luna Laurel
The new one, up to Luna oblivion
Oh that was the one I was asking about lol, thought it was something esle

so they add 1 more selector for newb?
Yea Solacetune sig isnt in there no?
Or is it?
~~ im still downloading the game ~~
I see
does ss0 liv need dlt now or not
need

400rc for a unit, that so greedy 
Huh, so it isn't. I saw a fan and had a brain fart lmao 
how significant is liv cub
LMAO
Yea that Hanying alright 
But not the meta Hanying
Buff her ult2 dmg
Need more real battle test, before having definitive answers
Oh by the way, is this a bug?
Yup, so now the question isi Shukra or Luna.. I got the luna pack to make her SS3 while Shukra is S
Really??
yes
Legit cheap af for newbie
They wouldn't ask for more RC later if I purchase it now right?
Its a needed crutch for newbie to enter meta
yup
Nvm obli already washed
~~ wait for next unit info, if shes voucherable or not ~~ 
leap save it 
ye leap save her
Just hope that teddy is free, otherwise im leaving
SS3 Luna worth
But SSS hmm dunno
Just wait for next patch beta test in 3-4 weeks
why wait when you can test it 
Does selena SSS change to blue orb for memory resonance over attack for top row?
Luna use core now right?
~~ ban the pilots ~~ 
Blue orb Reso is only for ppc
only for IB ppc, and some ppc stages
who should I prio at sss ish/vera/nana/selena
Nana?
I have been benching SSS Ishmael for months now, I need a guide on Void team so I can actually know how to play them in warzone, I delayed it enough

I have SSS3 Luna and SSS Ismael
Luna rot pls 
You ain't getting it until next week
nothing changed with luna rot
kuro really convince me to buy this coat 
u dont need to dodge cancel anymore
kind hot ngl
is thois thew correct order?
hmmmm
Do u already go fate for 3s ish?

should've had Nat as 4pc there
im not doing it yet
yeah, 6pc cottie incoming
vero and lilith skin the only good skins this patch with free luna skin ofc, the rest pretty mid
woooot
tell me man 
so you can just harmo cottie, and not waste anymore harmo mats for bathlon in darkflow
and nana monster hunter skin
1234 sig
56 ott
Thats what u got for asking two different places 
@remote fossil im till thinking 400rc for the selector pack or pull arrvial banner 

Iirc df use 4 bath 2 cottie 2 poincare right? So it's fine with natasha as harmo
my goldfish brain is confused
WHY ASKING IN META HELP AMD GEN HELP IS DIFFERENT
Why u dont even think to pull it on anni banner? Why must arrival?
Different mindset
Also different ppl 
hmm welp then ill wait 5 more months 
Bruh
Just wait 2 weeks bro
For anniv banner watduhel
We have it for this patch bro
bruh it doenst make any sense
We literally on anni patch
in 6* cub passives, which one is more recommended aside from their exclusive passive? extra dmg buff or their element dmg buff?
Gacha addicts be like 
Element buff
Its permanent
oh fk my mind still on the anniversary date 
Lappdumb ew
📝
@thick grail

I already stated why i said it like that and u still ask it again

i prob forgor
mb my mind till on the old global anniversary 
I had spares okay
cottie on 5 6 ? will that make any difference?
Nope
Thanks! And does anyone happen to have the rotation for SSS Selena (without Veronica btw)
Just a matter of preferences
matter of preferences?
just have little more attack stat than 123
Hurm...
may i ask how much that little?
3
welp im gonna use blue banner, and pull last copy on anniversary
just 3
3? wot3? 3%?
3 literally
Nat has 132 atk
Cott has 135
3 waves
No one still answer me whether to 3s ish or vera, prob i gonna go for vera

u know wat ima yoink urs
aight
vera, cause she best for soloing content 

Wouldn't it be better to harmo nat 
if i have vera 2.3 i would go for her instead of ish mommy
O C D

Which character worth to go SS3 ?(will pick from blue banner)
Nanami
Vera
Veronica
Bianca
Luna
I have the rest SS3
O C D? wo t that?
nanami
~~ friends of ADHD maybe ~~
Bianca ss3 has qte nuke

Nanami, the rest are mid for ss3, luna seems good now to ss3 but not much
I feel like she abit old xD does she better than SS3 Vera
Oh..okii... Will go Nanami then
top being atk bottom?
Core
she old but she is the best unit in the game bro 
atk+core passive on ss0-ss3
anybody got ss3 liffu rot?
Sig for 3s,core for anything below
Yes yes no doubt .... I agreed
Ss3 Vera, Ss3 Ish, or Ss3 Selena?
top being atk bottom core passive?
piano
yeah
i never regret for 3s her 
3s liv is what bottom reso
ult
which parts should i hypertune?
Ukt for light
Core for DF
All of them, no need to ask
Her 3S is next lvl so 
bottom if u low on mats
Does liv limpidity need her signature weapon?
So df at all invest gonna be core eh?
prio 456
All
If broke, then just the memo 4 5 6 first
Then slowly the 1 2 3
Ye
BTW can we do 2 rot with Liv SS ? I test in training , and I can't
l;ike this?
yup
Yep, do that if broke
U need to do fast ult, i dont remember how to do it cus i dont try her yet
Fast ult is like hold dodge in ult 2 form without using blue orb I think
Ok I need some time to understand Darkflow rot
And then I lack of orb for next full rot
I don't know yet if Liv does 1 or 2 rots
Cuz if she has to do 2 rots
Then it's 2 full stack rots
Or 1 full stack 1 half stack
man if ik luna got leap i would pull her goth coat 
what build for vera
u dont have dlt?
I'm trying 1 half 1 full , lack of orb for 2nd full rot ,
I have
yeah
no dv?
no need

Should i pull for ishmael sig or vera sig?
~~ dv Luna ~~ 
what memories for vera
ish, vera rot doesnt effect by sig
liv cottie slot is better at bottom or top?
fire? 4shakes 4cottie
bottom cottie
no hervor atall?
no need for hervor on fire
I heard new liv arrived a must?
Does she need weapon resonance?
for darkflow yes + she's limited
dlt
Whaaaaaat
Should i get one or go for 3 of them?
what ss3 should I get? Bianca, nana, pyroath,ishmael or vera?
Limited as in she won't be on standard next patch?
what reso for vera
yes, unless Phylotree banner reruns
her weapon and cub are also limitedd
atk+ult
Fu-
Which should I get, Shukra's or Oblivion's Sig?
???? you can only use 1 dlt
cooked
So can't be skulled? For ss
liv cub any good?
I mean weapon resonance
I mean I have farmable missions
if u f2p or low spender just dlt
Does Liv require ss3 for stable comfy rota or is sig + dlt enough to cover her rota
What to get on that free 6s weap? Luna?
anything u missing from it?
Well wata and luna
Guys I think it might be time for me to spend money on this game...
Which monthly pass should I spend money on?
which constructs don't have their sigs yet
Imma get Luna do my nihility ain't that sad
Luna and Qu badly needs their sigs to function properly
Luna leap is so good to me 

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How cooked?

Can i activate multiple harmony?
monthly pass A, if u dolphin or whel get weapon pass too
Ishmael have like different memory set
I got her weapon on 11 pull
Pulling on weapon banner is surprisingly easy for some reason
where cottie?
I think I'll just stick to one since I'm a broke college kid...
you can swap the harmo memories for their 2 set yes
ye monthly pass A is good choice
So i can just change it without extra cost after that right?
yes
Who does the weapon selector go up to
harmony cottie, and davinci with guin. that should be enough
isn't it like different role different builds?
yup
cottie for nihil dps, davinci for offelement tank, guin for amp
where is this
The new Speedrun on story fun it takes 5s to clear
Is this like an all around build for ishmael?
ye
You run cottie for nihil because she actually sees the light of day
Why didn't someone tell me there is an all around build!!??
no no
no
she dont have 1 build for all
So for nihil dps, ishmael go with 4DV and 4 cottie?
4 sothoth 4 cottie
she can do all round job with diff build
Free spending tho
No dollars wasted
What about Liv: limpidity mem?
Just to level up the f-ing memory
for offelement tank and amp build
you dont need lvl them up
cause you not gonna let her on field
Anything off element she won't see the light of day
Funny you said that cuz i did level it up to the max
And i ran out of serum to build her nihil dps
Still good to
Just not as important as the dps set
hypertune dps set only
Cuz off ele PPC she still deals noticable dmg
Unlike warzone
the rest dont need
can you save weapon memory resonance or do you have to pay everytime you have to change it for the effect teams?
Pgr is easy to build but confusing to adjust
You can change for free
Wait, memo or wp?
Btw for basic selector banner what beat pick?
welp new team preset just add, it will make ez for u if u know how to do it
memory
Try ss3 bianca or someone?
for weapon u only need to reso to unlock slot and then u can freely choose what reso u want on weapon
Has Luna's rota changed with leap or is it fundamentally the same
is luna oblivion worth getting to SSS using voucher?
Memory need to pay again
Hence you usually build a separate set
Its a bit expensive yea
Still gonna take a while to set up ishmael for different kind of situation
SS3 first imo
~~ next new S rank unit might be voucherable, but who knows ~~
no rush
my problem is she is already kinda benched cause i already have all element team. so she only useful for nihil teams
oh sorry confused, I mean the extra set on the weapon, it was costing the 1200 mats to change it, does that mean you only pay the 1200 once for each memory, so example if I pay for cottie and then switch to a darkflow based one will it just let me switch between the 2 once I have paid for each of them once?
Hence just SS3 first
Or SS3 through $1 pack
Thats called harmony mats
Its a one time deal 1200 spinning top
Once unlocked, its done
now unbench her for nihil 
~~ no more 4dv Luna ~~ 
so this won't actually consume the 1200 mats?
It will
It costs it only once
But not anymore for next swap
But once u activate it, u can switch for no cost
ah ok, that makes sense
Does liv need dlt
1k2 currency dirt cheap anyway
What's livs ss build too
Apparently not, but I find it inconsistent at times

what is better for the fire team the Pyroath cube or the Geiravor cube ?
true, but if you had to pay everytime then that would be awful
This one:
god I need to make alternate sets, so expensive 🙁
Me had to spend on COGS otherwise max cap
Should i ger Qu or Luna sig?
SS-SS3 use core lol
Liv: Flaccidity in all her glory 🥹
Luna sig
zamn 2 rot ss0 ish and deer cub luna
Luna, her leap is crazy
ss uses core
sss ult
Qu is about to die anyway just get Luna Sig
Lee ice dps 
Meanwhile me 
good usb 
Free res
Luna got leap, her meta relevancy is prolonged
Qu got skipped by kuro, so she's sooner to die in meta
Weapon resonance and harmony?
Shiny new USB
Luna sig weapon resonance and harmony?
I wish they would release another plasma unit, getting inted for not having lucia, don't have skulls to ss her even if I got her from blue ticket banner
Guys?
cottie, and dlt
For Limpidity, does this mean 2 Cottie 4 Natasha? Or the opposite?
Just skip Plasma tbh nowadays
Warzone plasma already losing score to fire warzone
PPC? Just use off element, use any of ur strongest team
hi what's the build for liv, currently have her at S for now and I'll get her to SS soon
yea my off ele teams not super strong, pretty sure skill issue
How to get that new tsukibricc costume?
New Plasma tank is inevitable
back in old day plasma is best team now it got down rank 
Well that said, it depends on how good our future Gaydiance team is
Is the free Camu Crocotta I got worth investing in?
Imagine them mid as hell and we get a Gaydiance tank instead
~~ kay Grandpa ~~ 
Yea such is meta, always changing
Uniframe all dead
Lipidity mem reso set? SS0
what is better for the fire team the Pyroath cube or the Geiravor cube ?
Check pins
I skipped SS0 Bianca
Cant see a future where Raydiance is meta relevant with her kit
Hm it would take an enabler on Nanami level
Someone who can build stk and actually deal dmg
nanami killer incoming 
Kinda same imo
At both SS0 Pyro loses abit of dmg compared to SS0 Vera with 10sec 2x ult tech
Pyro cub buffs ult dmg 20%
Vera cub buffs 1st ult opening only by 60% (2nd ult didnt)

whatafak
Current Plasma is so mid because Lucia is the only one dealing dmg in the team
ok ok tysm
kuso coding lol
Then Yata Fulgor?
A rank Attacker are useless
Is it worth to get SS3 Selena from the Standard selector?
hold on. what u got and not?
All those are only useful for non meta stuff
For meta, they dont have relevancy at all
Not much, just this
Explore the 71 characters of Zelius from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
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who should i pick for blue banner?
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Is it just me or does Liv do ABSURD damage? Granted I have her sig, cub, SS and fully hypertuned but she does kind of a ton of damage? Is it just me?
Is she tho
Compared to what?
SS0 Nana? SS3 Nana?
get nana ss3
Pls not compared to CW 

mf slapped me without answering 
compared to veritas 
hanying or pyroath? i have SSS dante and no physical tank
I haven't tested ALL that much, but I guess compared to Nana SS0
I see, thanks
does bathlon work with darkflow damage?
Han
Skip Pyro atp for you, not that worth anymore
deserve 
So SS Liv can do 2 full rot and 1 half 1 full , just only care point is when you do fast ult , while you holding dodge keep holding ult as well before cosume blue orb.
The prob is 1half 1 full, 2nd full rot will not get amp buff 
yes
pgr helpers so toksic 
so darkflow is also treated as dark dmg?
Im guessing this is without Dlt?
Is the Crimson Weave lady worth investing into?
~~ good thing you kiwi ~~ 
With dlt
anyway get nana, and pull another copy from anniversary banner upcoming for 3s
Not for meta
This new Liv replaces her
it gets buffed by dark, but not the other way around
how mandatory is dlt for liv?
Oh, i thought she's able to be used as a solo dps with it
She can do without it if you rotates with nanami
yes i have nanami with dlt too
thanks helperlao
you're far better than the newbie hater randall
Parent element buff/debuff works for its affix derivatives
So dark works for darkflow, but darkflow is useless for dark
So yeah, you can use the reso for anything else other than dlt for both of em and it still works
Is it a good idea if i pull both vera fire amp (as my attacker) plus her weapon?
Yes, very
i see i see 
I haven't test her solo dps yet, but seem like I still can do extra rot even tho I did 2 full rot

with luna leap and ishmael, surely the amp in the team gets no field time right?
what hypertune to use for liv?
Idk if I missed something in the tutorial but is livs electric and darkflow rotation exactly the same? or is there a button input that separates the two
afaik, she could do solo dps if you rotates between full rot and fast rot. But i havent tried it myself yet
yeah i thought so too
Hold ult darkflow no?
Then only minimum darkflow stack condition
Yes I think even tho I did all full rot , she can still able to do extra rot , seem like she can solo DPS , let me test
I got vera... But unfortunately the 6 star weapon choice pack didn't include her sig weapon.
I'll try it out myself, just gonna built her shortly
how to get live
Guess I'm getting Qu's sig then.
I FCKED UP
which SSS character has the most value to go for ?
this is the case with vera and veronica I think
Pretty much any amplifier
nice usb 
No it's the same rot
nanaknight
its a sign to run her with the two uniframes
she is kinda old tho u sure its still worth it ?
its fine i had every other weapon anyway (other than qu)
She's literally useable in a lot of teams, so yeah
Need minimum 10 darkflow stack only then
~~ at least thats how it is in beta ~~
My game still downloading ffs 
standard banner is no longer getting new frames right? is there anyone i should get to ss3? already have ss3 selena and nanami
, she best unit in game rn 
Liv build?
Who told you that bruh
Not all new unit are limited units 
Let me guess, liv use 4 Cottie
which build can i use to make liv limp?
its not?
Of course
Wow, who would've expect
Do you got info from kuro employee? 
Totally unexpected that she uses Cottie
yes 
4 natasha 4 cottie, 4 bathlon 2 cottie 2 poincare
yeah there is like
only half of the new revealed units, limited
iirc

and who are the non limited?
i m not sure she can slot all of those mems at the same time
so which one is for which
Dont build her at all to make her limp 
then where th did u get that info from??
natasha cottie for Lightning, the rest is Dark build
Ur spenders, surely u will know which is for lightning and which for df
there are other ways to make her limp
Those who are not phylotree related
We'll know soon in the future
i dont read in game stuff, only story
im gonna do it to her tonight


she can make me limp

i plan to do it myself using reverse grip
havnt played with my controller held in reverse for a long while
Guys rn I just need focus on Lightning team?
poor liv is gonna be limping all night(i m pulling an all nighter)
Have u done read ch37? Is it good?
brother
i dont have super speed

good build for luna oblivion?
I know newer character will always be stronger, but do you actually have to pull new character everytime they are release to clear endgame content rewards?
For newbie always focus on newest unit
And yea, Nana lightning tank still worth to get for free for any acct
Not really, unless you're a meta slave
4 sig 4 cottie
tho i m like 99% certain, it will be happy ending
kuro is hell bent on wuwafying pgr(ensuring the story of pgr becomes a 2/10)
As long as you have a good carry for every element, should be fine to clear em
For meta endgame yea
Strictly only to clear, nope.
But good luck doing PPC for 3 minutes 
While ppl are doing it for 30 sec
Well i can still get all of the endgame content rewards for like 4-5 future patches
right?
30s? 20s as max 
And u wanna be on wz or ptc leaderboard
Yes, the meta in here stays really long, so you can be assured
Nope, only 80% of it at best if not following new meta
Yeah i realised that after ch33, it's too happy for their own good, sigh...
🥀
Fk whel 🐳
How long does it took for one character to get severely outdated usually?
As in so outdated that they can't clear endgame content
2 years and above
2 yrs fastest
between 1-3 years (looking at u karen)
dante
No idea, some character last for a year, and some even last for 3 years
im f2p 
Bur now with affixes, maybe even longer than 2 yrs
LCW for example
why isnt karen dead yet
sig?
Tho we do have 1 year which is starfarer (1 year 6 month) and lamia (1 year 9 month)
Dante still meta tho watduhell
SSS Dante only 21k bc
Pls use your Vero main dps on ppc 
Took 2 years to outdate
does the nihil team go back to luna leader with her leap or still ish leader?
SS3 prio between ? (i own SSS lilith for nihil)
Vera
Solacetune
Parhelion
Luna Oblivion
Bianca Crepscule
I really just want to focus on getting weapon and CUB for every character that i have rn
cleo

Well gen 2 still usable unless u talked about gen 1, that's begging right
Is it worth it to get Liv?
I have Nanakight SS Sign
I don't have any darkflow team members.
And I'm scared they're gonna pull out a dark tank anytime now
@llune 
Speaking of CUB, what kind of character that i should pull their CUB for?
God forbids karen to be powercrept 
Is it dps, support, or both?
what's ishmael memo set when supporting liv?
Darenina meta till EoS 
Can someone send me meta team picture again?
Is DLT on Liv mandatory? Cuz I seen klaige said that she can still work without it
I saw on yt some use A rank CUB for certain character so i want to know which character CUB is worth pulling
Cuz I'm considering giving my last USB stick to LD for domain deconstruction
No, unless you're planning to use her as Solo Dps
cottie 4 and 6 for liv?
old but still usable, for new unit cub just ask ppl here
Current rate up cub first cuz 100%
Then highest impactful cub
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