#📨・meta-help
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holy nana stonk
Whel flex
I See, but tell me do I need SSS Watanabae or SS3 is fine too?
dow the new gen helper after nergi and khaled abandoned 
Yea I have Lilith dianca ish all at ss3r1
Yo does anybody have like all the meta affix teams
Yeah then you are good you just need a Tank if I am right?
thanks
I have Vergil, Veronica, and Haying.
Btw that not meta but I still use it.

Thanks for the Meta Chat bud.

Whel
Does this look good now?

if u dont have his Sig Harmon, Da Vinci is kinda pointless
Hmmmm in next patch their will be Weapon selector so it should be okay if I am right.

not free btw, 5 RC pay for it but its a good deal
No that's Luna itself
The weapon selector is free
Iiirc
how nice of them in that case
I think I can spend some tho.
does anyone know how big of a difference ss3 limpidity is gonna be compared to sss? would it be similar to crespuscule's one
probably not that bad, but it is huge diff regardless
SS3 Limpdiddy is atleast gud, SS3 Bianca still mid ass
got it, thanks !
Rotation for SS sigless vergil?

the better question is, do u have SS3 Hanying atleast
Sigless Virgin cannot build enough stacks on his own and has massive orbs issue
dis
liv is still pretty affordable
I can afford SS3 Liv so she is not that bad to me
same but im still thinking if i wanna spend 42k bc lol
not like that fraud Midianca
either i get ss3 or i skip
no point getting fraud ss rank
only reason i pulled midanca is cuz lilick cant sustain solo
but nana can
its gonna be hard to cope Darkflop without Livdiddy

like sure, 1m lower WZ score
but what if they add Darkflop PPC
now that might be a problem
hmm
yea i suffer on power so much cuz no ts team
No
hmm will see what i do
whatver i decide tho it'll always be ss3 or skip xd
pulling ss is just throwing bc in the drain
I'm starting to think ss3 nana is a better invest than her
But considering the recent warzone behavior I'll probably still get her
I can only abandon one affix, and I chose TS
just ss3 nana with blue tix
imagine a week with TS Darkflop

I need ish
what else are u gonna do, use Dark team?
Can't do anything about that
welp

if u wanna be safe, wait like 2 weeks ig
even if i wait 2 weeks itll still be ss3 or skip ngl
doubt theyll buff ss on launch
i think im using tix for ss3 piano
and pull ss3 liv
Not played
solo vera ib is 2-5 secs slower than liv
Guys which one should i get on blue selector next patch? SS3 selena, ishmael, hanying, nanami, or vera?
nana
Okie
should I be using grayravenscom for builds and team comps?
not that reliable anymore, if u want build u can ask here
what's the rotation for this team? doing the boss challenge stage
I saw this team comp on the site but they don't show the rotations anywhere as far as I saw
all they show is that veronica starter and selena leader
Boss challenge? Phantom pain cage?
Are they all s rank?
well idk if trials have DLT, or if they even use their sigs
so even with the proper rotation you probably won't get far
u should get Selena to SS first so she can do proper rotation
otherwise, better use another team
Yeah her usual rotation literally don't work with s
I am using the trials
Even if you try, Selena will run out of orbs
use your own units
just came back after a year of not playing

I don't have them
you don't need them
use other units you got
do u still have the Blue banenr selector
give us your huaxu 
?
Basic Research
Standard banner
selector on the blue banner
also known as basic banner
selector also known as "check"
S rank target
the selector from that core layer thing? that gets more expensive with each pull
no
literal banner, like, the one the characters are from?
That's thunderbolt banner
DON'T CALL IT A BANNER 
ye
yessss that's the one
good, there's still time to fix
do you mind giving us your huaxu? 
no huaxu needed
his acc was from 1 year ago, he's already dead
S rank should be Nanami Startrail instead
took her already
A rank No21, Bridget
from thunderbolt research thing
change it to Vera Geiravor then
get her ASAP
even if you have to spend some BC
next patch it's gonna reset your choice
is there a time limit?
4 days
yes

I still haven't pulled on this I think
whats your current pity
15/60
well, try your best to get it
as I said, even if you have to spend BC, as long as you can make it
and I pulled crepuscule on event banner
did you get her?
ye
this S selector is worth a lot more than the BC you spend
I do have my roster posted in here somewhere
copy paste ur ID here, select ur server
https://huaxu.app/
Explore players and other data from the Punishing: Gray Raven outside of the game.
a couple days ago #📨・meta-help message
it's conevience for us to see what u have
better to use huaxu, these images are static, while huaxu is always updating based on your progress
the link please 
Explore the 34 characters of Gremlinstone from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
definitely not worth starting a new account
while you get geiravor from the selector banner, you should aim to SS nanami (startrail) with phantom pain cage skulls
probably fine
yeah that's fine
unless you are throwing around sigs, the only thing the weapon gives is a 10% atk boost
Bianca is sadly mid tier
especially when u dont have her best teammate now, Lilith
free btw, check Insatisable research
alright, u know enough stuffs
yea the first thing I did after coming back was dig through the menus cuz I know this game is screwed when it comes to that
half the events are behind 4 layers of menus
indeed, cluster fck UI
btw should I be using secator since she's sss+
cw cooked months ago, bianca is ok, she replaced lamia (who was technically replaced by lilith already)
despite that, bianca is mid like penguin said
nope, Phys is just bad
and she is A rank
she is balter levels of bad, potentially worse
so phys team is just for wz now?
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am i cookd
people saying bianca kinda sucks
u still use Phys in PPC but they need so much invest
not entirely, you have vergil, nanami, bianca
tho sigless vergil 
no like they saying bianca worse than lillith
yes
did i waste my pulls
balter
they are about equal, you need her for wz rotation anyway
oh ye, she is indeed weaker than Lilith but Lilith cannot solo
bruh im cooked
who do i go for next for my roster?
kiwi which bianca are you talking about
this is assuming Lilith is atleast SS3, which takes a bit of invest to get there
wdym
crepe
Dark Bianca, Crepe
she's bad?
who should i pull for next
yes she is mid, but also neccessary
you might be skipping liv if you can't get her everything since for now it seems her stuff is limited to the version
im at 50/60 pity rn
speaking of liv Iheard they're doing a hoyo style banner for her?
more like wuwa styled
12m Ice, I believe in u dalao
except character is gaurenteed

unfortunately yes
tho that statement is not entirely accurate, because the banner is the same as the others in terms of numbers
the only difference is, all of her stuff are only for re-runs, they don't enter the basic banner pool or weapon banner or cub banner ever
me noob
its the same thing, except everything about her are limited which is really bad
anyways idk who to pull for next here
i guess liv?
who do i get from anniversary reset
so her stuff comes back for arrival banner but not available until then?
I'd say, u guys should not rush getting Liv and wait like 1-2 weeks for final judgement
she will only come back during her own kind of banner, nowhere else
no Standard, no Arrival
||I was thinking of getting cw coating anyway||
same to her Sig and CUB
from anni go for geiravor, pianissimo, ishmael
whoever you can't pull you can pull from the selector
thats alot...
the order is by priority, so geiravor first
ok to get pyroaht instead of vera?
dont like vera design
nah dont
if u like Alpha she's getting a new frame anyway better save for her
no
pyroath < geiravor
I have no doubt that Alpha would also become a limited unit like Liv
- geiravor outdamages her
- doesn't need sig to function (still very good to have, but not entirely gutted)
pgr is going in a crazy direction
we have to adapt to this new shjt show
and I don't like it
this game had 1 good feature which was the starting selector with all the characters
it's biggest "invitation"
like with that out of the window, new player retention will be worse I feel
I started a long time ago cuz enemy designs looked cool. got bored, left. then everyone started hyping up some sort of "second generation characters" with bianca's release so I came back for that. got bored after invesing into her abit. t hen came back again for cw, same story. heard about dmc crossover and wasn't really interested after looking at their models. now I'm back cuz wuwa made me hungry for more interesting character designs
that last part is so backwards imo
wuwa characters are not lacking in design, or at least they are a lot more expressive
you came over for the wrong reasons 
What to think, Liv may not be that strong on ss0, however she has the opportunity to take part in ligting, darkflow, which will have a fairly high score. Also Liv will be able to go to off-team and go through PPC Plasma / Raydiance.
there's a story? tbf im just in the beginning
its MC glaze
hey at least the mc has a voice
biggest problem with the game is it locks character progress behind story
huh?
dunno how you didn't notice that
I assume you are new or didn't play too much
not the mc, you can level the mc
the eidolons/constellations whatever
I pulled a new character, just to be locked to level 40 because her "ascension" material is 3 islands away AND the story locks the boss from spawning too
ah
this is assuming ppl can get everything for her
the genshin style lock
in which case she will work just fine
yeah so like I said, I think coming over for the designs will leave a bad taste in your mouth, because this game is unforgiving if you can't get a character's weapon (for the most part)
and as a f2p you don't get enough for that
You can unlock all areas ingame after the first main quest In Genshin besides ina Zuma so idk what you mean
syncho is over, now it's hard to calculate resources
Wuwa is objectively worse because it locks everything behind that respective story
just wait for the anni banner and backpull 1-2 characters during the next patch
since you will be pulling vera from the selector, you would want to get others from it, like hanying, pianissimo, ishmael
maybe pyro
? I don'tthink I get your point
yeah you probably won't until trying to get more invested in the gameplay and performing to your heart's content
if you just click on war zone and play until the time runs out, nothing I said matters
same with phantom pain cage, if you just beat the boss with no regards to the "speedrun" aspect then your character invests don't matter
once you try to achieve some minimal stuff, like a decent score, or a decent time
that's when you understand why f2ps are living in hell here
basically, game isn't hard to earn gacha currency
but the moment u step into the meta, u will see how demanding it is
speaking of are those 2 still the only real endgame? or did they add a third mode at any point
Ib
also I do have 34 pity on arrival for some reason

well you shouldn't even think about pulling anyone on that for now
screw norman I don't have a usable team for every damage type yet
that's half the things you need
other half is minimal invest for the teams
usable team my ahh someone beat a zone with only 5* teddy
like I mentioned, signature weapons
here you can't cope with a 4-5 star that is similar
the signature weapons are must have because characters don't get a little extra energy, or 6 extra orbs per ult
the alternative weapons give you +10% dmg boost and nothing else
you will see what this game can really offer you after a couple weeks in next patch
for both balter and cw I just pulled 1 copy of everything. just got lucky and got 2 sigs for cw in 1 10pull
just unga bunga pull sss+ lcw and beat up everything with vegils daughter
The best luck I had in this game is acc not even Vera 2nd copy in a single 10 pull, it was when I pulled 3 diff sigs in 10 pulls🙏🏼
Given how expensive resos are, the amount of dopamine that gave me converted me to a mini-whale
i got 3 wata sig and 1 offrate 
God damn
in 10 pulls
I feel like sig and cub drop rates are higher no?
I never pity cub and often pull multiple in single 10s
and a dante, wata and bianca copy from free pulls respectively
they are
fym 120 seconds bruh
Me when bonka onetap in 10s
wow my cw team is THAT bad
what is this even
Try to glacio it
shes the problem
clash
clash
Glacio onetap everything
from selena's trials it seemed glacio takes a century to charge
thats if you dont have wanshi

trials are for styling and showing what the character can do, nothing else
Nanami main dps
Why does pyroath need sig?
Iirc she doesn’t need any orbs because they’re always available
She needs dlt and also her sig gives her orbs and (triggers matrix
wrong
she works with orbs just like everyone else, only difference is that she can pick and choose their color
Oh
The white orbs on top are her orb supply
when you think of the question: why does this character need sig?
the easy answer is: signature energy, or extra orbs, maybe both
how dare you
I just don’t like the dual sword stance ok 😭
and if a character "doesn't need their sig" it's just cope
every character wants their sig, it's just that there are some that don't get extreme benefits like vera
vera gets double base dmg on her ult 1 or 2
the main reason you want a sig is the harmony + resonances
she breaks it in half during ult 1
Yeah I don’t like that stance
also the event
Harmo + reso is why technically every character wants their sig
tactical something
fym stance
I like the spear but the dual sword thingy looks weird
that's literally what I said
it's just that there are some that don't get extreme benefits like vera
just pull everything and stop yapping 
I just don’t like reading don’t mind me
globlul reading strikes again 
I prefer interpretive dances over the paragraphs
nirvatia will save us
Wh
Saving patch
Bruh I’m lowk cooked
Pulling vera/pyroath, selena, Ishmael, and liv next patch

Nah I’d win
How much BC we get next patch
we don't know
2k
It’s a single patch so roughly 1/3 what we got this patch
Liv is free since I’m at 55 pity
Ishmael/selena I can get from anniversary
Pyraoth/vera will be standard
But it’s also anni so idk
Anniversary tho
what we know of is 2500 yellow tickets(?) from daily login
14 free pulls for liv banner (probably per day)
the rest is mystery
Oki
Isn’t it 14 pulls in total
it is
and I've come to the conclusion based on my experience with gachas that you get 1 pull attempt per day
Prob just smth like 250 pull currency every day for login, 2 weeks
Pretty sure it's 14 pulls spread across different banners, but totaling 14
3 for anni, 3 for stardard 3 for weapon 3 for ...
btw are uniframes just for sim siege these days?
Imagine 3 for uniframes 
Guys new to the game just tell me can I still use Crimson weave vera garnet and liv Lux team or I have to pull the new upcoming liv?
just saw vid popped up on how to play new liv is it too early because so far almost every new unit from the past few patches has changed a lot since debut
This is the same as always unless they change it now, but it's 1 pull on one banner each day, so it's like 2 or so on one banner, same on next etc
Not even 14x themed pulls 🦎
i saw a spider2b vid about liv gameplay
Some on standard too
I was like ???? bro she's not even out yet 💀
thats waht im saying
I think it's blue, themed, fate themed, arrival, weapon, standard weapon, CUB
Arrival + themed arrival sorry*
perfect example is new bianca at least for higher invest it was later changed to ult looping
I mean the release version can be wildly diff to beta as well like the past
So I don't think it's ever good idea to just decide before release, even after the char release it's best to just explain what it does and how it does it so people can start figuring out the rest
Themed arrival 
Fk whel 90% legend retention
Oh whoops Fate arrival lmao
Yea alr giving rotations and invest guide xD
pak u whel

Ok maybe burn 11m not doable
Chat is jetavie good for ignition or only dark
good
Seige only unit
whats that
Guild battle
still doesnt really answer my question tho even in that gamemode is she better in the ignition team or dark
burn yes
One of the best A-ranks in sim siege
her burn multiplier far exceed her dark
Anywhere else, 
the multiplier isn't even the important part
it's the fact that dark rot uses her ult which is really bad
gb ignition rot just spams core move which is very fast
yeah ignition only need ult on swap in
doesn't use ult2 at all because ult2 is giga time loss
Ta pak
Guys is it still meta to use wata in the fire team or the darkflow team?
Both
Is dante still usable in fire or is pyro better
pyro is absolutely better
dante can be viable at sss
well vera is better than both
I have her, her 6* sig and cub
Wait guys isnt alpha gonna be replaced with the new darkflow unit?
How? I still saw her being used
Yes alpha is replaced by liv in both her roles
only at very specific high investments
in the vast majority of cases, solo-nanami is the most viable strat
What item goes here like how does this work
Idk about very specific high investments
if i compare this to wuwa, this is basically like when you use a dupe of a weapon to increase its rank.
however, here it doesnt have to be the same weapon. it can be anything of the same rarity, so another 6-star weapon.
ALSO, there is another item you can use as material, that you can grind for
Swap is viable more often than you think
Oh ok makes sense
Whats the item called and how do i grind for it?
already at ss3 under certain conditions right? but doesnt that require an invested feral + the right weather
Does not require feral
Is influenced by weather but can still be viable on any weather
Is this the team i should use for this
"6-star weapon resonance material"
Main way to get it is through "Norman Revival Plan"
that gamemode gives shards. 150 of those shards can be turned into a material in the Exchange Shop
That's fine but i would personally use teddy instead of jetavie
Wtf does it actually say that
Overfulfilment core
Kuro what the hell does this mean
I like jetavies playstyle but i also just dont have teddy
Umanity alignmen
Everyone needs reso 
i was talking about the memory reso
smh zexlao
Yes ult
Meta wise, everyone needs reso
ermm, i was just asking for memory reso
the main ones

Guys do i need selena at ss for her to work properly with her 5* weapon
gib dow helper role
SS is considered bare minimum
Well im kinda cooked then
Most units need SS to be functional period
All
no SS no human rights
daren erasure
So would jetavie be better than dante here for ignition
Ok
girl cant even beat vera and she isnt even ignition
Doesnt she enable ignition?
yes but her dmg sucks
Idk other people was saying her dmg was good
U got nanami
who are these "people"
Get her ss, ez ignition
I need to complete more ppc
what level are u?
Like command level?
89 i presume gotta check
yeah 89
No
- A rank
- Consumes all stacks on Ult
- Pepega Ult damage
- Stacks can run out while in animation
- Stacks being consumed = the purpose of the stacks dead cuz Vero can't boost the DoT anymore
- Bad at stacking by herself (too slow)
So dante is still better got it
Do you have Nanami
Do you have Veronica
Do you have SSS0 Watanabe
Yes
Do you have Vera
Yes
No
He's better off nanami solo
oh aegis?
ngl i was assuming i didnt have whoever you were talking about but yeah again i dont have her
In A rank guild battle yes
i was looking to go for crep anyway
Nobody said her dmg was good in general content
Should i have gotten dantes cub?
have u done ultimate ppc yet?
What?
ultimate paincage
normal and ultimate which paincage did you choose
what memories do i use for aegis?
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/24312522/characters who should i use base banner next patch
Ig i chose regular but it says im qualified for ultimate
?
@sand laurel u lost
What team should i use for this gamemode
Nvm i foundit
your best one
I dont really have a “best one”
or whichever fits the weather
What does that mean
Like which of these teams should i use
my thats alot of S 
please for the love of god
with that many characters, you should already have access to ultimate paincage
thats instantly enough skulls for three SS'
if only you knew what i did in the early days 😔
but yes there is free ppc skulls just there
But again which team should i use for this gamemode
we already said it, pick the best team and play it
your dark team looks the best
i would have had an idea if there was more than 1 ss on your account 
your only option is to sob yourself to sleep
rosetta 
i have bad news for you
Which one the budget one of ppc
is there a ss3 prio list still somewhere, i know bot had one? my question would be ss3 nanami or ss3 vera. would use standard reset thingie
fk
that's jetavie, lilith and 21, you should rotate jetavie and lilith
Ok
Nanami
Quick protip
If nanami is one of the answers then nanami is probably the correct answer


However you may also consider holding funds for the new characters

you probably don't want to trust a nanami glazer bro
I would only be using standard ticket currency so i should be alright
Before or after reset
after
For after i think nanami would still be a good choice but me personally i would wait until at least the next S rank after liv to see what's up
We're back to normal patch speed now so
Those standard banner resets are not going to come by so easily now
dow is still a fun and frenly guy, dont want him to end up like n*ke

uh oh bro is still awake
at what point is bianca so so much better
and how many shards do you need for that
watapak, that sounds kinda annoying to do, but ima try it out
never heard about this before 
SSS
If you pull her once you need 3 more copies to get SSS
is it worth it or shoud i rather look for future banner
i have right now enough bc to 100% get her agan and still have some bc left
It doesnt worth it if you're f2p
Better pull future units
Sync will end too so bc income will slow down significantly
Who should I select from this selector?
what rank qu and wata
what rank for you epitaph?
Sooo do I go for Wata? 
yes get epistonks
I can get SSS from vouchers after duping them on Luna 
what does ss3 luna leap do 
Nice Chisato pfp
just qte nuke?
She's me coded 
QTE nuke added
And SS3 bonus
I think
i think imma save my vouchers for someone else
leap
Global Reading comprehension strikes again 
whel

Wait, the alpha skin is the first topup reward?
Yeah
ggwp 
bruh, the bear invasion in ice wz is real
these things multiply by the second there 
do i need ss0 for solo vera
pak dis, me done with ice 
now for dark, first time using midanca, lets see how that goes 
Like the triple bear? 
You need sig as well
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
3S?
If under then ur chill, she’s brainded
what do we do on ss0 midanca in wz? is there any slacc rota for her?
They’re so f-ing tanky too, Qu barely tickles them😭
Have you guys ever noticed that if you click on Clash Reflection (where it automatically tells you what this week's buff is), that if you click off of the buff, that there doesn't seem to be a way to find it again?
yes
There’s buffs in clash reflections?

they just giga hp sponge mobs
and if you happen to kill the previous wave with an ult, these paking bears jump at you straight away when you exit the ult animation and can bricc the run if they hit you 
Is it like character specific or element
I'd been trying to ignore this issue, but i think at this point I'm sick of it doing this to me
?
pretty sure you can
Poor shukra
tell me how, then
share da brainded rota 
Thanks
does this buff affixes?
probably
My bonka 3S but I think SS is just swap in, hold dodge hold blue (hold BA while holding blue to cut off end of animation) glowing red ping (this might be just for ss3 and higher I can’t remember), press ult. Then 3x red, hold BA, release when red flash, swap out
Subsequent swap-ins, same as above, except press ult right when u swap in
Sm1 feel free to correct me but I think that’s how ss0 bonka plays lol
do I dodge cancel anything? like that 3x reds on 2nd part? or can just let the reds play out fully?
Mmm u could but then it gets a bit complicated; first can u tell me if u have the glowing red ping after hold blue at ss0?
I already see ima curse the whole world at that "release when red flash" part 
ohh, will check now
trust me you will
Acc it might not matter. Basically after the hold blue, u can press the glowing red ping and either: cut off the end of the animation by spam pressing ult, or, let the animation play out and at the last few frames sneak a red 3p in there then press ult
no glowing orbs after blue hold
Then, instead of 3x red 3p, u only need to do 2 (if u timed it correctly you’ll see there’s 1/3 of the sword gauge at the bottom filled up)
Damn no rights bica
if you sneak in a 3p before ult you must do a dodge after the 2x red before hold ba
So u do 2x red, dodge, hold BA, then when u release and see the moment Bianca begins to dash, u can red ping once more before swapping out
And on swap in + ult you’ll also have 1/3 of the gauge pre-filled and only need 2 pings again
I’m not sure if this is worth doing at SS0 since I think ur only doing 2 ults anyway
Like I’m not sure if this actually makes ur rot better/faster
ohh, I don't have dlt on her btw, does that matter? 
U don’t need dlt until sss
U can just run ML, GA, etc
She generates like a crap ton of orbs herself
gut, then she remains r0 forever 
Hmmmm
Can u still red ping before ulting
So hold the ult button as ur releasing the blue orb, and try to sneak in a red ping before ult animation goes off
It’ll be kinda hectic since u also need to hold BA while holding blue xD
I did hold dodge > wait for them pings to be consumed > hold blue + basic > wait until it finishes
and here do I still ping red even if no glowing red or just ult?
Try pinging red and see what happens
I’m honestly not sure
Did u watch some vids of ss0 bonka runs?
How many ults do they do
You ult
Special red ping is ss3+
ohh, got one full rota done without messing up the hold basic red flash part 
nope 
but I heard it's kinda the same as stigmata was
and from what you said, it seems to be the case (doing X.5 rotas)
Yeah, maybe flexible depending on breakpoints or u just do as many as u can at end of run lol
Good luck
bruh, lilick on red might not be a gut idea for wz with midanca lul
https://youtu.be/ogzmji78Im4?si=pDbQfMqN9X-VzRt7&t=150 ye see here i let only 4 bullets go then it insta fills back to 6 again after xd
Leader: Wanshi (Still xd)
SS3 Qu is just a nice damage boost for her, doesn't add much significance to the team as a whole.
Also changes nothing in her rotation.
I will mald Ice again the next time I am in Legend with it, the score in Hero is usually lower, so it's hard to guess what higher scores are possible.
Thanks for watching, have a great...
wanshi haxx
and u can do that from 3 bullets too, but not less since u wont have enough stacks for max drone ult dmg if u only let 1 or 2 bullets go first into 6, must be minimum 3 into 6
you need ss3
k whel
Speed hax 
ye learned it from moonlao on CN
idk how he was doing it tho so I just tried a bunch of random stuff like releasing and reholding red which worked lmao
guys i've been playing on and off Lucia: Crimson Weave is my most bulid character considering that would it still be worth going for liv limpidity?
unless your cw is sss3 or above then yes
what if wont go for her weapon?
dont get her then
get her
dark zone bricc cuz mob zone?
aside from my skill tissue, dark now scores less than the others?
why sss3 specifically
we get currency next patch anyway
sss3 cw score is around ss0 liv score
This week all bad scores
Unless 444 inv

dunno about that, but dark is far below the others for me
tissue
Last bad we had -1milnerf
This time it's more
8.6m burn
5.7m ice
4.2m dark 
can prolly get around 150k more on dark if I do the rotas faster
first time trying to actually play it how you wz malders do lul
but lilick missing her reds is just... 
Beta it is
Nihil like 18-20
Phy be at 17
Low imvest same ranking
But void need 3s wata
Or down
233 should be like 7 M
A guy I taught to play Lamia and I skipped Bianca, did 5.7 M 233 one tap, probably SS0 Lamia can 6M
Don't use the cub during a 3x3 and + red
Or 2x3 y + 3 y + red
on EU? with what rota?
I think it's from NA
checking the leaderboards, I see 4.5-5m scores with my invest (or close to mine)
What is your investment?
233 023
Yeah, I think it should be more than 6.5M
This is my rot with Lamia SS0
Lamia SS0 | 4 Derketo 4 Cottie (ATK+15 & sig move) | DLT | S pet
Lilith SSS0 | 4 Sig 4 Cottie (ATK+15 & sig move) | DLT, GA & SAR | SS pet
Karen SSS3 | 4 Bathlon 4 DV (ATK + 15 & Class) | DLT & DD | SSS Deer
highest score with almost my invest is 5.5m on EU 
So maybe fluc is very different
And maybe there's some extreme enemy out there very different from NA
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Are we saying random numbers/letters combos?
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finally able to get it 2000w yippe
Nana/wata works better in physical warzone then rosetta
But need double swap dps selena/vero
And vero 4 keats 4 cottie
Damn I need to see ur rotations 
What sets does echo use?
I was asked for some next investment recommendations in #📨・general-help message and get quite confusing replies, like ditching my physical set for Veronica and building her for Ignition instead of Vera Geiravour which is already hypertuned and harmonized for Dante Ignition
So, may be you could give better advice
I have several characters who yet to be hypertuned and harmonized and considering who to invest next
the choices are: Discord Secator (she is SSS+ with 6*weapon), Lilith Daemonessa, Veronica Aegis, Selena Pianissimo, Watanabe Epitath, etc...
2 x guin + 4 x DaVinci 2 x guin (wepon reso) - glacio
2 x guin + 4 x DaVinci, no sig - glacio
4 x Sigma 2 x DaVinci 2 x DaVinci (wepon reso) for physical (if you have Veronica just use her instead)
4 x sigma 2 x guin no sig
What if I have 6 set slots 
you dont have her weapon?
Uh no, I'm quite new so I have no idea what to lowk do 😭
Should I pull her weapon? My wishlist is already large enough
No, characters are first priority
Check again but keep in mind if you have veronica
I do not
I'm using her for the sector (I think is her name)
The a star I got free seqances for and have her sss now
echo could use the bow from the weapon selector you get from the free missions
if you still have that
I'm using the uh 5* recommend weapon
It's a name with numbers and stuff
Bh-5850 I think??? I'm not sure, something like that
Can you link your Huaxu page? (or you can give me your in-game id I can look it up)
I don't know/use this service
Just let me know your in-game id and server region
I can give id
post your id and region
Explore the 52 characters of XCanG from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
i would save this link incase someone asks you for it in the future
A few things:
- Watanabe builds 4 alpho 4 shakes for fire team, and 4 alpho 4 dv in ignition (with Dante Vero) as well as upcoming darkflow team with Liv, and if you don't have Pyroath and need Vera to dps. So I'd recommend you have 4 alpho 4 dv on him, and just get 6x class skill reso if you can.
- You Vera is built for QTE, which is fine, but if you want to use her in fire (which would be your dps), you should build 4 shakes 4 cottie on her. Alternatively, you can go 4 Hevor 4 Cottie, but that's for solo dps purely, and you would have to rebuild her in the future if you get Pyroath. So, for now consider building 4 Shakes 4 Cottie. 6x atk 6x ult for reso.
- Daemonissa. You have no other dark s frames besides her, so it is probably good that you finish buliding her so you can clear dark content. You current build of 4 Barc 4 Cottie is fine, just remember in order to solo with her you would need DLT weapon reso
- Secator. Low priority since she's A frame.
- Veronica. For your case she's low priority since your Watanabe is not built. Because you already have a Dante ignition team ready with Nanami and Vera, you should continue using that for now. Only start considering building Vero when you hit SS.
- Pianissimo. You don't have Hanyin atm, and your Vero is only S, so you basically don't have a phy team, but you can still solo with her with A rank tanks if you'd like. You do have Wanshi and Echo, so you could build Selena for glacio as well. It would require you to leap Echo and build 4 guin 4 dv on her. Your wanshi build is correct. Glacio is a separate build for Selena, which I'm not very well versed in so maybe ask @mighty tusk
Lilith Daemonissa & Watanabe Epitaph, because they are so universal flex for any team. You can take them to almost any squad and they will work. Moreover, Watanabe was specially created for Liv: Limpidity.
Vera is also very strong character and stronger then Watanabe & Lucia Pyroath in Fire team. Also u can use her in Fire, Ignition, Lighting, Darkflow, Nihil, Dark, Ice (as a alternative support)
I actually use Jetavie rn for Dark
she is SSS+ with 6*weap
but I don't have good pairs for her
Any way, but I just want to make it clear that SS0 S-rank characters without a sig are stronger than SSS+ 6* sig A-ranks
If u have bianca & lilith u don't need Jetavie in dark
If u have lilith, nanami/watanabe and Luna Oblivion u also dont need jetavie in dark
can someone tell me whats the event word?
A frames don't have time lag calculation (which means timer don't stop duing ult animation etc), and they don't do nearly as much dmg as S frames, so they are lower priority than your S frames.
it just happened that I got her first and almost right away for SSS+
so I started invested in her
then later I completed event and get free Lilith, but that was like 2 weeks later
if you meant new bianka, then no, I don't have her
SSS+ for A frames are free and you are gaurenteed to get it on their release patch, so everyone will have that. It's just they are mechanically inferior to S frames (by design). They are for fun, not for meta if you know what I mean.
In this game, sometimes playing solo for an S-rank frame with a team of two support characters is better than you would play when switching between SSS+ A-rank and an S-rank meta character.
Moreover, most of the characters do not require huge investments for solo play. SS + sig + DLT (1 wep reso) is most often sufficient

what teams from my list do you recommend pairing?
currently what I'm using is:
Ignition: Dante, Nanami, Vera
Physical/Ultimate Slash: Alisa, Nanami, Vergil
Dark: used Jetavie with other are quite random
Lighting: Crimson Weave, 21, Nanami
Nihil: Luna, Liv, Nanami
Ice: Luna, Wanshi, Alya
some other are not built and probably will replace someone after I done upgrading
can u give me ur ID for huaxu check
this
SS priority for Lilith > Wanshi >= Selena > Veronica > Watanabe
Ignition good
Physical use Veronica instead Alisa because Veronica on S-rank has passive SSS Alisa
Dark: use Lilith 4 Barcelo 4 Cottie with Luna 4 Da Vinci 2 Einstena with Nanami 4 Herschell 4 Heisen
Lighting: use Nanami 4 Herschell 4 Heisen with DLT in sig with Luna 4 Da Vinci 2 Einsteina with Vera/Lilith 4 Samantha 4 Guinevere
Nihil, use Luna 4 Cleopatra 2 Cottie 2 Einsteina with Vera 4 Shakespeare 2 Guin 2 Cottie with Nanami 4 Herchell 4 Heisen with 8% debuff in weapon reso
Ice use Lilith/Vera instead Ayla because Lilith / Vera has passive SSS Ayla
ignition bias here lol
imo Watanabe is higher prio than Vero for your case @mystic mauve but the rest looks good
No, he doesn't have a physical tank. Swaps with Veronica SS0 and Selena SS0 with Nanami's participation can earn up to 5 million. Of course, it depends on the zone. Last time in the physical team, it was possible to get 3.5 for SS0 R0/R1
Watanabe is very strong perspective on the future of SSS
True, but he also already have Vera, so finish building Wata gives him a decent fire team
who is DPS in case of Dark team?
phy is kinda bricked without Hanying regardless, and his Dante is currently higher invest than Vero. It's debatable whether Vero is actually worth to invest for him.
in your case it would be Lilith solo dps
His overall damage is about zero compared to Vera, and on SS, if I'm not mistaken, he just gets a slight improvement and signature energy when swapped in
He has Leap and QTE off-field shred as nana, just maybe use duo swap Dante/Vera
also you recommending removing Crimson Weave from Lighting team? I have full investment in her and she have highest BP out of all characters atm
leap was fully upgraded as well
That would the idea yes. Also if he decides to pull Liv he would have a darkflow team.
Watanabe is also fully functional on the S-rank in darkflow and also does not need to use ult. Duo swap Vera/Liv yahoooooo xDDDD
cw is being replaced next patch by Liv, and is falling behind in damage compared to other s frames currently. It's not recommended that you put too much **any **resources into her at all. For your case solo nanami would score higher than swapping between cw nanami and feral.
so if everything is correct, something like that
IgnitionGod in Pleb-help 
Hey! Oh, why? xD You're just a player as I am. In fact, I'm far from being the best player.
I like to joke like this XD It's good to see more and more malders here 
Ishmael or darenina for bianca? I have sig on the 2 options
lmao spider had to take down the liv guide alr

lol why
don't like daren. She is so hard for me. Playing with Ishma or Nana/Wata
Guide based on beta


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvzoBr3VTM4
Special for u my friend
Bianca SS3 | R1 (GA,) | 4 Jeanne 4 Bathlon (6 atk 6 ult 12 tunes) | S Cub
Ishmael SS | R1 (DD) | 4 Sototh 4 Da Vinci (6 class no tunes) | S Lingya
Lilith SSS | R1 (DLT) | 4 Barcelo 4 Cottie (6 atk 6 ult 12 tunes) | S cub
with actual weather
when will you do 444 for me gawd
Depends, SS3 Daren R1 is bricked. The minimum investment for her right now is SSS + 1 Reso (DLT)
Or SSS3 + Domain Deconstruction

Well, at least he cares about providing reliable information
I would love to do this for you, but I only have my and my husband's account.
Why not instant dv qte on bianca swap in ult? Ish shred isn't restricted by timestop
Because Lilith eats the whole field of Ishmael. If you'll notice, this field is no longer there at the time when Bianca's swap in
Oof didnt invest into daren that much , sticking to ish then
This is also the reason why Lilith wears Da Vinci + Guin along with Ishmael (if Bianca and Lilith both SSS)
Only one of them can use the field
Daren's field lasts 15 seconds, and Ishma's lasts 12. It's not very pleasant

what do people use on wata in dark team? dv + bath? or something else?
dv bath yea
yeah
tried a dark run with wata, did almost 200k better than bonkerina 
did enuff wz mald for half year now, time to go back to slacc mode 
I asked kusogames in the survey to ban the pilots 
There's a survey?
dalao
Btw why did you do a 3p after hold blue (not the glowing red ping) and before ult?
Does weather buff run out?
Or it's just to make her ping less during the setup before swap out?
whel
Oh yea it's weather lol
I play SSS bianca and it's common for me to spam red orbs before every ulta. Moreover, it also works quite well for the SS. As if I'm saving a little time, in my opinion.. Of course, if I had DLT, which is essentially unnecessary, it would happen faster.
This weather is just as dogshit as pyro weather
Tf they mean one 3p = 10% dark buff

22222 lilith ender is interesting tho, worth trying out for sure
Work by having like 15s left on timer 
oh
Do you want a funny story? I played SSS nonomi and 3S bonka & lilith and got only 9.3 in the current zone. I took Ishmael and got the same result. But as soon as I changed Lilith's dps set to 4 dvc 2 guin 2 cot, my score increased to 10.8 LMAO.
Damn when's new dark tank
It turned out to be better than at the end *2-2-5-2
I did 2325 but yea more ults might be better
Guys, can I have some suggestions for Ignition wz? I kinda want to try Jetavie in Igtn. Is there a rotation guide for her? And her teammates?
how to play bianca radiance? 
you dont
very helpful 
thanks 

eh too complex 
wasn't it yellow dodge yellow yellow dodge

or off element
am I reading a lord gods language

The Meta language 
any thoughts on worth: (1) SSS Bianca + SS liv next patch, or (2) SS liv + 20k worth pulls + SS3 Selena
context: SS3 bianca, SS Selena rn
thinking of getting either of them in blue banner reset, initially fire lucia (SS3 rn) with bianca but feels late to invest in lucia?
damn cant find the copypasta for metaslaves
does discord sss+ better than bianca ss
- no 2. different element
the old bianca physical thou
oh stigmata, i'll let someone else answer that i remember people saying discord is stronger but 
Wouldn't it be great if kuso decided to revamp the training ground to be super customizable. Like we can choose any trial chars, put any trial weapon/memory, customize their rank/level etc
U are better off skipping the entire element if u are not using vergil
I kill the boss too fast to do any of those challenges in that tactical override event 
Have to force myself to be poverty with trial ss jetavie
I was sleeping too 
cool angle of domain expansion tho 
Fk whel
whel
Genuinely thought this was wuwa for a second
cant believe that physics gone down that bad
Well I assume they were talking about Ultima slash not physical
i come back after 6 months drop off and only qu and the lilith dark team can be usable
im dead ass
it cumback every year
how about you
:peperuncrytrip:
Do we know what other sigs are gonna be with liv sig on offrates?
no
It doesn't show in beta?
if it showed in beta, we'd actually know how the hell the banner works
but we still dont
so no, not in beta
super dalaoo
I'll try it, ty
Yep, truly 
last question doe
what type of target lock u using?
I see thx the info
I guess newbie zaza not my place😅

Future Fire team is just gonna be Vera + new Fire + Wata SSS anyway
Pyrowashed days are numbered
what's the WZ bracket next week?
fire void phys/glac all mobs
hmm
Nihil, Fire, Physical/Ice?
Ok ur piloting I'm uninstalling
oh glacio
A few more days before limited segs drop 
wait
ALL MOBS???
I'm gonna need after 13th
yea all mobs
fuccasss
say goodbye to your bc then buddy
Lighting WZ where
Login for the 1m dailies
iz Liv patch by Thursday


burn should be

where meta helpers at need em
