📨・meta-help

[faint monolith]

Because of how fast we jumped patches with sync idk who's gonna get ditched anymore

[still moat]

nowadays u are better off with 1 SSS character than multiple ss3s, but it has to be a really good 3S

[compact fern]

[normal sierra]

cuz nowadays even ss3 feels like 🚮 compared to sss
paking whel game

[faint monolith]

Who would you consider as a "good" lasting 3S tho? Ish?

[gilded flint]

Lilith and wanshi

[still moat]

vera and nanami is there

[compact fern]

bonca biggest sss no?upgradewise

ss bonca just sad

[normal sierra]

even ss3 is sad

[faint monolith]

Both are free so that's not what am seeking as an answer tbh

[still moat]

bianca lacks the versatility

[compact fern]

henry who you suggest i get between nana or piano ss3

[normal sierra]

vera and nana deffo best sss right now

[unborn hound]

nanami prob

[unborn hound]

nana

[normal sierra]

I would get nana, especially if you a proper pgr player (aka no donut )

[compact fern]

hmm

guess physical stays bricked

[normal sierra]

I can sss nana now with blue reset + thunderbricc banner

[compact fern]

watch me get lucky and pull 3 nana from basic banner

[faint monolith]

Tbh I feel like investing in tanks and amps than attackers cuz they have more value ( except scire)

[compact fern]

im really tempted by ss3 piano tho i feel she makes a lot of ppc strats viable
i mainly ppc player not wz

[faint monolith]

Like back when pyr dropped everyone was saying to go for her SS3 since she can dish out mucho dmg but then kuso dropped the fkin nuke that is vera and now look at pyr

[compact fern]

ss3 puro still great for many strats lol ss cant even dream of

i mean ppc btw

wz shes meh

[still moat]

liv probably gonna be my only ss0

have to 3S vera next patch

[faint monolith]

Ofc but can imagine the absolute horror of realizing that Vera can be a dps

[compact fern]

just get lucky like how u got sss vero in 70 pulls

[compact fern]

who uses pyro in fire ppc lol

[still moat]

i mean i have to rely on overflow shop with vero still

and i have to do it again for vera

[compact fern]

i mean plasma ppc

[faint monolith]

I might just be a one time thing and solon used his CEO powers to force to devs to make her OP but damn it hit me hard when I was told

[compact fern]

pyro slash vera 1 rot is a strat but thats both ss3 pyro and gera

[still moat]

mthe account i pilot has been f2p ever since vera patch so i will eventually be short on income

[unborn hound]

just skip at that point

[faint monolith]

Yet even after knowing all that am still too fkin lazy to learn how to vera dps

[still moat]

why would i skip liv

[faint monolith]

Me lmao 🧱

[unborn hound]

mid

[compact fern]

🧱

[unborn hound]

why tho

[compact fern]

u have s+ pyro or sum?

[gilded flint]

Me too, but only hell big clown fire guy

[still moat]

doesnt matter if she is mid i need content to upload

[compact fern]

u get 14 sec?
cuz anything below is viable for ss gera solo

[unborn hound]

ur the only one who made a good complelling point on why not to skip liv fr fr

[gilded flint]

I get like 23s
2.332 112 111 for hell

[compact fern]

cant wait to see liv on your account on day 1

[unborn hound]

nah uh

[compact fern]

yea bricked af

use gera bruh

[gilded flint]

1e then vera ult 2

[compact fern]

bruuhhh

[unborn hound]

u gonna see that sss nanami shinning like a star trail

[normal sierra]

is that fat dude score? cuz that sounds awfully slow at that team invest

[gilded flint]

My vera cant solo fat dude

[faint monolith]

Like I said too lazy to learn Vera rot+ low on hypertunes

[compact fern]

he using pyro eclipse to clear

[gilded flint]

Its only for hell

[unborn hound]

her rot is easy tho

[normal sierra]

ss vera + sss grandpa = 16s doube vera rot clear

[compact fern]

ss gera can 2 rot in 15 sec

[faint monolith]

Is it?

[gilded flint]

I gotsa see a video

[normal sierra]

https://youtu.be/sAtOAuU8Y6k

[unborn hound]

pathetically easy

[unborn hound]

hold on lemme type

[faint monolith]

Teach me the Daloa way then

[compact fern]

i saw your ss3 run with pyro slash + gera ult
tried
didnt work for ss gera

[gilded flint]

r3 vera?

I have to do a different way to double ult without dlt

[normal sierra]

ye, that needs full ss3 team minimum (sss wata not needed)

[vague nebula]

[compact fern]

gera without dlt tf

[unborn hound]

swap

dodge

blue 3 ping

dodge

blue 3 ping

ult

red 3 ping

(u can also do a dodge here but no necessary)

red 3 ping

hold ba

dodge x2 (while holding ba)

ult immediately

do this 2 time per swap (except maybe 1st swap)

[gilded flint]

lingya plus weird gera orb gen

[vague nebula]

[normal sierra]

r2

[faint monolith]

Wait what's there Alisa for?

[compact fern]

should i ss3 gera then ?seems temptimg too
choice between nana gera or piano

[gilded flint]

is alisa 4 guin 4 sam?

[normal sierra]

amp resos + support mems

[vague nebula]

[compact fern]

r2 gera for dlt+ml kinda min requirement ngl

[faint monolith]

Dodge is counted when u hear the parry sound right?

[unborn hound]

yep

[faint monolith]

Oh

[gilded flint]

I might be saved from having to do that because im broke in resos

oops

[normal sierra]

all details in vid description btw

[faint monolith]

Isn't it like time sensitive or smtn?

[unborn hound]

only in hold ba

[normal sierra]

it's a very specific ppc setup
but with wata leap, he no longer needs cottie for it, so you can have one more debuff/buff mem on your team

[compact fern]

first swap need let go of ba during each dodge or u wont get orbs
2nd swap onwards its fine

[unborn hound]

but in hold ba dodge 2 times immediately when the camera lock on vera

[compact fern]

tbh gera one of the easiest units to play
managing stuff like 5 ult pyro is hell lol

[unborn hound]

that isnt necessary

orb only matter if u doing 3 rot finisher

[compact fern]

i dont get orbs for 2nd ult on first swap if i hold ba all the way

[unborn hound]

for ppc i usually do wata lingya to get orbs

But for wz it doesnt matter at all cuz you should swap after ult 1

[rocky wedge]

3s wata / 2s wata have diff fire rots

[compact fern]

oh yea ppc is fine cuz lingya

[rocky wedge]

well vera will play a bit diff i mean

start way diff

and u dont do a 3rd ult at the end with 3s wata on the team

with 2s wata u would end up doing that

[gilded flint]

End with slash yay

[compact fern]

with 3s wata im pretty sure u end run with 2ult gera lol
theres not time for anything else

[rocky wedge]

well both rots end with that

[gilded flint]

huh

[compact fern]

if u doing 2 pyro ult rot

[normal sierra]

nahh, end with a 3s knockback from getting hit, best way to end

[rocky wedge]

well 3s wata fire rot, ends with non-enhanced lulu slash, 2s wata - she ends with enhanced slash

[compact fern]

pyro got time to slash ult?

[rocky wedge]

yip if u are fast enough

[faint monolith]

I still don't know how the hell you manage to do a 5 ult

[compact fern]

hmm

[rocky wedge]

rydle did it, yomm too and nuke

[gilded flint]

what is this black magic

[compact fern]

my runs end with gera even if i swap to pyro dont got time

[rocky wedge]

i also got nearly 3s near the end

[compact fern]

lao

[faint monolith]

When exactly when u hold Ba that u dodge ×2 tho, after 1st red bar is consumed?

[rocky wedge]

need to be very quick with vera's ults, need like immediate active as much as possible

[compact fern]

u spam all red before activating ion

[rocky wedge]

and obviously be fast in everything

[gilded flint]

I thought it was 5 ult in fire

[rocky wedge]

but something i didnt know until a few days ago is vera can connect her 2x3 red which does decent damage

[normal sierra]

the moment you see that bar decreasing, you can start the dodge
if you do it before, you bricc

[rocky wedge]

vs dodge cancel first red

[compact fern]

how much score u got last fire wz?
i assume 223 team?

[faint monolith]

Wait fr?

[rocky wedge]

232 rn i have 8.35m

with 22.32 ahh

[compact fern]

hmm

[unborn hound]

when u do 2x3 red pings

u hold ba immediately and dodge 2 times immediately when camera lock on while holding ba

[gilded flint]

how many reso's?

[compact fern]

u got run recorded?

[compact fern]

ye tho im not sure u can do it without ss3 pyro

my pyro ss3

[rocky wedge]

ye but its skill issue

[gilded flint]

Im only a mil off with 2.332 112

[rocky wedge]

i mean its ok but not perfect, still can go 8.5+

[compact fern]

u got the slash at the end right?wanna see timings

[rocky wedge]

nono def not

[compact fern]

oh

[rocky wedge]

is ur wata 3s or 2s

[compact fern]

3s

[normal sierra]

wut is this cam lock on?

[rocky wedge]

https://youtu.be/EoJGSfpu5l4?si=SOGmMFxZ3a2qTAcg ye here, nuke did it 3 weeks ago

3s wata is not enhanced tho

enhanced slash is with 2s wata

[compact fern]

hmm

[compact fern]

how many blaze orb he doing on wata?

[still moat]

nuke kinda did it slow though cause the actual lucia slash ender happen with lucia still doing 2 rot before the last swap

nuke did 1 so he could do the slash end

[compact fern]

ohh

[unborn hound]

astinel in meta help

[compact fern]

i do 2 lucia rot all the way

[gilded flint]

same

[rocky wedge]

he adjusts it, but he gets 6 stack ult a lot of the time i think

tho i did see bili run that was doing that

[compact fern]

so i need to 1 ult lucia on the penultimate swap?

gera would be in cd tho

pretty sure

[still moat]

penultimate ?

[compact fern]

even if i spend 6 blaze orb on wata

[rocky wedge]

ye im also reading that like many times over

[compact fern]

the one before last

[still moat]

u dont 6 blaze everytime

[compact fern]

ye i mean if i 1 ult lucia gera would be in cd even after 6 blaze wata most likely

[still moat]

if u are fast enough u can probably do it like 3 times at most through the run but not every single time otherwise its time brick

why 1 ult lucia

[faint monolith]

Aight amma try that later

[rocky wedge]

i think he means for the start

[faint monolith]

My pyr SS3

[compact fern]

to fit that slash at end?
u said nuke did one ult last rot

[still moat]

at the start yes then 6 blaze wata otherwise vera would still be in cd

[rocky wedge]

ss0 and ss3 lucia have same rot with 3s wata

[still moat]

no u could still do it with 2 rot lucia

[compact fern]

oh

[still moat]

https://youtu.be/DvUY3v78Whk?t=232 i timestamped it on how the ender looks like

[compact fern]

hmm
i prolly just skill issue

[compact fern]

lao

[rocky wedge]

well also not doing this rot would be lower score

i mean this is proven peak rot as u can see xd

since no one else is beating az nuke rydle or so forth xd

[compact fern]

is ss3 gera rot different from ss?

[rocky wedge]

ye same, she just gets more damage

[compact fern]

hmm

[gilded flint]

is vera cub and ss3 like a 500k score increase?

[rocky wedge]

also the qte management is pretty important too

i was playing with that and it did have a pretty heavy impact

and also with vera u can opt to red > dodge > red > hold ba > dodge x2 to save time

[still moat]

apparently vera cub vs sss bull has little difference so idk

or whatever is the A rank fire cub

[rocky wedge]

since u can do red > red > hold ba > dodge x2 for more damage also

[still moat]

but ss0 to ss3 vera is generally around that score diff

last week fire is not a good measurement cause its mobs and the scoring is a lot lower than usual

[compact fern]

i ran out of dodge the last time i tried this

on 2nd ult

[still moat]

dont cancel 2nd blue with dodge

cancel it with ult1

[vast crystal]

wata memo and reso

[rocky wedge]

ye i dont think u can cancel the second red input either or cant dodge cancel the hold ba first and second animations

[rocky wedge]

for which

[still moat]

i also dont dodge the reds nowadays

[vast crystal]

tank, i ave lucia

[still moat]

i dont feel like im losing time

[rocky wedge]

fire 4 alponse 4 dv / 6red or atk, 6 class

[vast crystal]

feel like usin class ngl bro never enters te feild

cause vera

[rocky wedge]

i think i was feeling it was bad everytime cause i was trying 6 stack wata

with every ult tho

[vast crystal]

but i ave 4 dv in vera

[rocky wedge]

but thats probably why my timing was bricked, i thought it was just skill issue

[carmine reef]

You can fit 6 stack wata in like 3 seconds with sss

[rocky wedge]

or maybe it is

[carmine reef]

Well i guess 6 stack implies sss

[still moat]

if u are aiming for vera ender u could probably do 6 stack wata everytime

[vast crystal]

am not spendin certs on a fossil

[still moat]

but for lucia ender i dont think u should, its too much time brick

[rocky wedge]

vera ender? she does another rot?

[still moat]

nah just the 2 rot

[rocky wedge]

oh just rot adjusted from the zone?

[carmine reef]

what time loss, i can do 1e or 1s1e lucia and still fit 6 stack wata without losing time on vera swap

[still moat]

ye like maybe the damage from 6 stack wata matters more for breakpoints than lucia ender

[gilded flint]

I can 6 stack but the wata parry feels weird for me to do, howd you do wata parry?

[carmine reef]

Just depending on how much i cut the last blaze short or not

[rocky wedge]

ye or idk ive even delayed vera ult sometimes since the wave takes more damage

[still moat]

its for lucia ender

[rocky wedge]

i cant chain 6 into 7 without waiting like slightly

[carmine reef]

Blaze orb

[rocky wedge]

otherwise its rng everytime depending where the mobs get pulled

[vast crystal]

doesnt tat need sss?

[carmine reef]

6 stack ult already implies sss

Ult stacks capped at 3 otherwise

But blaze orb parry is any rank

[still moat]

time is too tight even with 6-5-5-5-6 wata

[carmine reef]

I've been doing it since ss0

[rocky wedge]

i parry with lightning 🧙‍♂️

♿

[vast crystal]

i have ss, and dv on vera, should i shakes?

[carmine reef]

Yeah idk i always do 6 stack wata and still swap to vera the moment she's up

I don't know how there could be time loss

[gilded flint]

Can you pretty please with a cherry on top provide inputs for blaze orb parry

[vast crystal]

[still moat]

but do u end the run with lucia slash

[carmine reef]

I do yes

[still moat]

whats the rot

[carmine reef]

Wata?

[still moat]

the entire team

[carmine reef]

Vera 1 rot first swap and then 2 rot every other p normal

[still moat]

do u do wata start > 1 vera ult > 1 pyro ult > wata > 2 vera ult > 2 pyro ult and repeat

[carmine reef]

Lucia i do either 1e fully played out or 1s1e with eclipse ult asap, i don't really do 1e1s

[still moat]

yea its full 1e1s pyro

[carmine reef]

I have r1 lucia so i dont wanna put dlt back on to do that

[light sluice]

So the basic banner will reset. Who should I prioritise to pull?

[cold walrus]

who's the starter in 22.33 dark?

[rocky wedge]

https://b23.tv/vLYHSOZ oh ye it is doable, i thought i did see it

[carmine reef]

It's just hold dodge into blaze orbs

[gilded flint]

I dont think dlt needed, or at least I didnt need it when doing my fire run

[rocky wedge]

cause every wata rot i can see his stacks are 6

[carmine reef]

I'm p sure you need dlt for 1e1s?

[unborn hound]

who are u missing

[rocky wedge]

but i think he can do that from cancelling some vera reds

[gilded flint]

time for a lil test

[carmine reef]

Oh I'm still cancelling my vera reds so maybe that's why I'm fine on the time still lol

I feel like wata ult is probably more meaningful

[rocky wedge]

cause he def not cancelling all, i can see the animation is different sometimes

[carmine reef]

But idk for sure

[rocky wedge]

ye he does

ok cool thanks for this conversation, i think i know what to do now

[still moat]

he have 2s on lucia swap

speed hax for sure

[rocky wedge]

it was still 1s on clock tho right?

maybe very good pc xd

not one single frame out of place

[still moat]

i usually use the one on top right

the one on middle is kind of a scam

[rocky wedge]

oh interesting

yeye thats actually clever

i mean when that happens i just view as the higher time anyway xd sometimes the middle one bugs during timestop

youve probably seen that

[still moat]

yea

[rocky wedge]

if u mald enough there is no ways u cant Dx

[still moat]

but with that being said enhanced slash ender might also be possible if wata's damage arent needed much

[rocky wedge]

ye its weird with the spawn delay

think it would be more brain dead without that though

also wtf is this guys name translating too lmao

ahhh

wonder what it actually means in chinese kek

[simple dew]

[surreal nest]

wait the new upcoming characters look sick

[wanton zinc]

what deos this mean!

sorry i foudn its

[chilly glade]

those are for memory sets

[nova quarry]

will hypertune save her or nah

[wanton zinc]

yes yes i found it which made me question soemone told me ealrier to use da vinci on alpha and other places say diesel

whichi one is bettters

[chilly glade]

for crimson weave in term of dps you need 4 diesel and 2 cottie, but new liv might outdps alpha

you can harmonize cottie if you have sig weapon

[wanton zinc]

yeah i know new attackger gonna be better just i have nobody at all built atp

i do have sig its frr=ee

[chilly glade]

[eager crypt]

What's the corresponding element of Raydiance?

[winter wind]

does anyone else have the problem where pianissimo after first ult rot, when trying to ping hold basic into matrix ping to go into 2nd ult, when doing ping hold it just gives 0 orbs to ping outside of blue? I've never had this problem during phys wz until recently for no reason

[eager crypt]

I mean Plasma attack can be affected by lightning buff and shred, what about Raydiance?

[formal radish]

Lightning and plasma

[eager crypt]

Thank you for bestowing your Wisdom Brother

[languid elbow]

Ss3 priority? Since blue ticket reset is happening

[formal radish]

Nanami

The cool one* have to clarify

[gray beacon]

[languid elbow]

Do we have a list? For priority?

[gray beacon]

Ss3 list?

[chilly glade]

top up at least a dollar then you good

[gray beacon]

Im low on funds💔

[languid elbow]

Yeah

[chilly glade]

Fah

[gray beacon]

Had to lend more to family

[formal radish]

Not anymore

But 2nd is selena iirc

Don't know how high up the new Liv is

[languid elbow]

Aight, already got her

[gray beacon]

We will see after testing

[chilly glade]

and im pretty sure top 1 ss3 priority is nanami startrail

[languid elbow]

After selena is who tho? I still have the blue ticket selecgor rn

[languid elbow]

Fr? thats odd

[wanton zinc]

when using feral 21 w crimson weave and startrail what sets should 21 be on

[chilly glade]

yeah i checked it before

[gray beacon]

Wdym nanagoat so versatile

[languid elbow]

But won't that change now that we have a proper Lightning dps?

[gray beacon]

Not much

[chilly glade]

eh, not that much

[formal radish]

No

[chilly glade]

there are reasons for ignition though

[gray beacon]

The ss3 isnt much abt her solo lightning

[languid elbow]

Its for her other teams right?

[formal radish]

Third priority's ishmael??? Idr

[languid elbow]

Aight pyroath it is since I find her more fun

[deft apex]

Wowowow fun in my #📨・meta-help ?

Go back to #📨・general-help

[languid elbow]

Nah

[deft apex]

[wintry shell]

Yes Nanami is currently top 1 SS3 priority

[languid elbow]

Ugh, why her...

[wintry shell]

And SS3 makes a huge difference in both ignition and regular lightning teams

[wintry shell]

Cuz she runs on like 5 teams

Very flexible, possible solo carry for lightning and ignition so

[languid elbow]

Which are lightning, plasma, ignition and? Forgot the rest

[wintry shell]

Pyraoth SS3 is good too but her fire dmg hits like a wet noodle

[wintry shell]

Those are the main three, but also glow but it got no content rn

And who knows if they’re going to release a glow specific tank

[languid elbow]

If only pyroath didnt suck

[wintry shell]

Pyraoth in plasma is op

In fire she hits like a wet noodle so

[languid elbow]

Don't have vera's sig so I might aswell ss3 lucia

Is veronica better than nanami in ignition tho?

[gray beacon]

Her slash ult is just

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-pgr-kamui-kimochi-yokatta-gif-27521837

[light sluice]

No one

I'm not missing anyone if I remember it correctly

[cobalt prawn]

Is phys score just super low this week or am I garbage at the game

Cuz I have ss3 Selena and Veronica… and scored less than 4M in legend

Which is insane

I have not scored this low in any zone for months

[round lake]

Its mob zone which is already bad by itself

Although, below 4m is low indeed

[faint monolith]

Selena's hold dodge not hitting everyone can fk u up pretty badly

[golden nacelle]

mi bombo

[faint monolith]

So Liv is having a banner on her own huh

Kinda weird to think that she won't be added in the standard pool lol

[rain anchor]

guys so does the banner pity carry over? if not then im cooked

[stray siren]

It carry over, although I understand that Limpidity will be obtained in a different way

[rain anchor]

ok thank god. my 36 pity looking at me like

[normal sierra]

in what way? some special banner?
If she really not getting added to standard banner later, then kusogame can drop ded

[stray siren]

You should keep in mind how Liv will be obtained, because I think it will be a different banner

[cobalt prawn]

yea it's weird, they said that she won't be obtainable outside of the anni patch for some undefined time lol

[rain anchor]

alright

[normal sierra]

that's just incredibly stoopid move. probably even the dumbest move they did so far

[cobalt prawn]

also. Kamui better be meta for as long as Daren and Rosetta. the only starter character to have never gotten another frame...

[round lake]

Isnt it literally the same as every single S rank ever

[cobalt prawn]

he deserves to be meta for at least 4 years

[round lake]

If you can't get them on debut u won't get them again unless they're having rerun

[cobalt prawn]

no the way they said it made it seem like it was smth special/separate but idk it's hard to tell

[stray siren]

Nope, each S is added to the permanent two months later

[normal sierra]

we could get them on standard after 2 patches

[round lake]

And can u actually get them? Unless u have S target

Who said Liv isn't gonna be added to standard

[normal sierra]

if they exclude liv from there... mehh, I find less and less reason to stay, but if they keep doing these weird garbo moves, ima just 🥝 too

[round lake]

Its just the normal things
U get new S on debut

[stray siren]

Yeah,u need to have S target enabled, and it's a feature that's been around for the last 3 years (CN time)

[round lake]

Duh

I'm a lauch player

I'm saying this is not really anything special

[normal sierra]

the fact she's on a separate banner with separate pity is already an unnecessary banner bloat move to make people spend more

[rain anchor]

i just wait for someone to show it in beta

[round lake]

It has the same pity as themed banner, they said

[normal sierra]

I have 40 pity on themed banner and you telling me those are useless for 3 months now? what the fruit?

[round lake]

Unless u mean the rerun, in which case it obviously has different pity

[normal sierra]

this is just utter garbage

[stray siren]

For day 1 players, it's a way to get her SS3, because they don't have better options for using that banner

[round lake]

Wym useless

[true zinc]

Your pity carries over all theyve done is change the name of the banner lmao

[round lake]

U can literally get her in 20 pulls

Kusogame changed the banner name and everyone suddenly think she's limited

[normal sierra]

then why people say it's a different banner?

[stray siren]

https://x.com/PGR_GLOBAL/status/1984802643613794389?t=V7ojwIEvLXG3aCFqlRUj0g&s=19

Punishing: Gray Raven (@PGR_GLOBAL)

Dear Commandants,
It has been brought to our attention that there are questions among commandants regarding the acquisition of the new frame [Liv: Limpidity]. Here are the detailed explanations:
The S-Rank Omniframe [Liv: Limpidity] will become available after the version update

X · Nov 2, 2025, 2:00 AM

[round lake]

"Chief should we rename our banner to something fancier"
"Sure why not"
"Sir, they're now protesting that we're making limited units"

[true zinc]

They have just changed the name that's it, which in hindsight was a bad move from them considering the comprehension skills of alot of people

[round lake]

EN community in particular

Thank you Kusogame

[normal sierra]

I dun visit these twatter/failbook/etc sites, I just saw people saying it's a different banner here now lul

[karmic anvil]

[round lake]

Its a Global server's delicacy
"Misinfo"

[true zinc]

Well alot of global players are ESL, Kuro does have pretty bad wording too when explaining stuff.

[rain anchor]

they shouldnt even have complicated the post that much lmao. atp just say "we're renaming the banner but everything is carried over"

[normal sierra]

my god, that new banner name is just...

bruh, dumbo AI already added the banner name to the gugli search lmao

[round lake]

Now they're blocking message temporary on their social media accounts, I can't ask them directly

Now isnt that fun

[normal sierra]

I still find this name change dumb
they are using unnecessary flavor words nobody even knows of, what is even the point of it?

just call it a paking character banner and leave it at that

[spiral merlin]

Pity carries over, but char, wep and cub all disappear when time is up

[round lake]

This does hurt getting their Sig

[spiral merlin]

If you lose 80/20 wep and don’t get it in time good fcking luck getting it until rerun

[round lake]

The true problem

[normal sierra]

wutdaheck

[round lake]

The true limited is their Sig

[spiral merlin]

This is a straight downgrade

[stray siren]

This is probably what's confusing.

Because it's contradictory, "will not be obtained temporarily through other means" /"however, they can be obtained again in subsequent versions through the same banner"

[spiral merlin]

Kuso spitting in our faces

[rain anchor]

so weapon pity dont carry over? like i already have a guaranteed rn

[spiral merlin]

Pity carries over everywhere as usual

[round lake]

No S rank can be obtained through any means for 2 patches, thats how it always works

Other than their debut that is

[spiral merlin]

We need more details on the reruns

[round lake]

Then they will be added to rerun, base etc

[spiral merlin]

However, sig alone is enough to be mad

[spiral merlin]

Base is assuming

I feel like they would specify base/anniv/wishing if it were the case

Instead they mention only same banner rerun

[rain anchor]

wait why

[round lake]

It should be safe to assume all the future S ranks showed on stream are parts of this new banner

[spiral merlin]

It disappears when char is not available

[rain anchor]

ahhh so u cant get it after

[spiral merlin]

Yes, until rerun

[rain anchor]

so if i already have guaranteed then its safe?

[round lake]

They didn't say "only"

It's also an assumption that they won't be added to standard

[spiral merlin]

Correct

[round lake]

Even then, standard is not reliable

[spiral merlin]

And I’m not denying that

[normal sierra]

watch them rename those too to some weird ancient/tech words nobody knows about
cuz we aren't confused enough, right?

[round lake]

Only thing we should be worry about is the Sig

Although, thats a big worry alright

[karmic anvil]

[round lake]

[spiral merlin]

This whole thing seems to me like
“Hey here have some words
Blah blah blah blah fck you blah blah blah blah
We are very grateful for your support.”

[round lake]

Kusogame Global and bad wording, a tale as ancient as time

[rain anchor]

theyre reseting the standard banner like S rank check thing right? so like i can get creupuscule ss3 or something like that?

[round lake]

Yes

[spiral merlin]

Even if she gets added to base banner

If you don’t get her near a rerun ur stuck with 5* wep

That’s so ass

[round lake]

🥀

[normal sierra]

[stray siren]

We should go back to when Kuro was being bullied

[spiral merlin]

I’m going to bully them

[rain anchor]

why they wanna do this though

[round lake]

To fck them F2Ps

[rain anchor]

alright :(...

doing this right as sync ending is crazy

[stray siren]

Well, the sync ends: each patch is much cheaper

Kuro logic

[rain anchor]

honestly i dont think i wouldve gotten some ofthe characters if it werent for sync

like i already missed out on qu shukra cuz my pulls were lowkey low af

[sharp estuary]

do you always just get nanami star rail from blue target banner assuming everyone else is alr ss? just checking

[rugged raven]

so to my understanding
i guess these new gen character probably wont be going into standard pool after like 3 patch or something?
cause so far they are making a really big deal out of what is basically a name change for the banner if there is no other effect

[noble zinc]

It's the same thing

[chilly glade]

there is one from thunderbolt research banner also

[noble zinc]

Also we got bc cuts

Mind that

Cuz of sync

[sharp estuary]

dont think im touching that ever tbh

[chilly glade]

good idea

[rain anchor]

feels different to me

like the spd of getting the things yk

[noble zinc]

[rugged raven]

like what's even the point of discerning between normal event themed and whatever this PoO is (yes i know its a very unfortunate acronym)

[noble zinc]

It's full mess you can't even enjoy them properly

learning 20teams in a week isn't fun

[rain anchor]

true

[sharp estuary]

so just ss3 nanami star rail from blue ticket should be fine?

[spiral merlin]

True limited units

[stray siren]

It's the same thing, I played both the global and TW (non-sync) versions, the amount of BC was very similar in both

It only felt very slow on TW

Veeerrry slooow

[chilly glade]

yeah. it's works

[rugged raven]

heard someone said its just a name change

[spiral merlin]

Nope

[rain anchor]

yeah thats my point but i guess we have a long time

[spiral merlin]

Char, wep, cub disappears when char is not available

[rain anchor]

but it definitely affects some things, like not being able to get the character ss in the first two weeks also means rewards lost in ppc and stuff like that

[spiral merlin]

From this the most logical assumption is that they won’t appear in base banner but that’s just an educated guess

[karmic anvil]

[rugged raven]

i mean that's the same thing we are having literally right now
or how it should be
the character doesnt go into the standard pool for 3 patches unless they change that
only different is i guess weapon and Cubs are also gone

[spiral merlin]

And if they do appear in base banner, but it’s not rerun, you pull char and literally can’t pull their sig

[spiral merlin]

Weapon and cubs are also gone yes

[stray siren]

Ah yes, that's why your new character should always be obtained in the first week (SS + Weapon + pet) so that the next one is not affected

[rain anchor]

plus the ppc rewards are sooooo draggy oh my god

[rugged raven]

if they intend for all PoO units to be this limited then i feel like that just gonna hinder meta by alot
and it doesnt even make sense
we literally always gonna have enough BC to pull most characters anyway

[rain anchor]

i remember before sync i literally died trying to play a full team

[chilly trail]

Should make same as dmc banner get 1 free

[main latch]

I got $10 do I do it for CW? and the anni rewards is just a free 10 pull and a coating?

[pine slate]

Well we can't ss3 thru the standard reset anymore

[spiral merlin]

We get enough bc to pull char yes, but 80/20 sig is the primary concern
And the other concern is how this is extremely new player unfriendly

This is nothing but negative

[noble zinc]

Doubt thed put every chr in that new banner
Or no point in having base banner if none getting added

Or they said

[stray siren]

We don't know yet, the message says "temporarily"

[spiral merlin]

Iirc these new frames are also based on the phylotree tech

[round lake]

Kusogame isn't beating the "Fck them newbies" allegation

[stray siren]

Temporarily = 2 months as always maybe

[noble zinc]

[main latch]

the what the what tree?

[stray siren]

2 patches*

[pine slate]

[rugged raven]

like i dont think this new banner system really gonna boost the revenue by much lmao

[pine slate]

The weapons being limited is also scummy tho

[spiral merlin]

New fckass system kuro came up with to justify true limited units

[rugged raven]

its just kinda being nonesense

[main latch]

are these basically gen 3 frames? with gimmics that set them apart from old gen frames?

[spiral merlin]

This system does nothing but hurt players

[pine slate]

It doesn't affect me much but it's still trash

[spiral merlin]

There is nothing good

[karmic anvil]

[stray siren]

That's ass

[spiral merlin]

It doesn’t affect me at all but I’m still pissed

[main latch]

tf you say?

[rugged raven]

it probably not even gonna boost revenue

[pine slate]

I don't see the point of making an entirely new banner if they're getting added to standard 2 patches after

That's literally just themed event

[rugged raven]

what's even the point of its existing lol

[main latch]

why would they bring that gi/wuwa system in a old game

[spiral merlin]

Nothing except greed

[rugged raven]

they thought they might make more money
but they dont even understand how their own gacha work

[nova quarry]

how do i farm this real quick

[pine slate]

Well surely all other servers also complaining?

[spiral merlin]

Don’t know yet

[pine slate]

What r the comments like on that twt post

[spiral merlin]

I hope so

[rugged raven]

so unless they are becoming SUPER scummy and reduce pulls alot where you cant even get the characters
i dont really see the point of being scummy for sig and Cubs

[main latch]

shii at the rate they going they might add oath for the husbandos and waifu collectors

[pine slate]

Surely no kuro c*cksuckers

[main latch]

charge $5 a pop for the ring like in the other games lol

[chilly trail]

R*ddit soon

[main latch]

but the weapon being limited was very unexpected

[karmic anvil]

[main latch]

they couldn't

that will basically be speed running frames then if it's 2 per patch

[rugged raven]

also by the way the word it
i guess characters in the PoO banner probably also wont be appearing in the blue standard guanrantee for new players
which yeah it does become extra scummy

[round lake]

POO

[nova quarry]

also whats PoO yall talking about

[rugged raven]

the new term they introduce in the lore

[main latch]

what is it?

[humble phoenix]

Hiii i was just wondering but what is the best character i should get from the base s rank summon?

[barren plank]

Nanaknight Startrail

[summer topaz]

fitting name poo banner

[rugged raven]

if CN is angry enough they might remove this
cause like again its just so pointless
they dont even know how their own gacha economy work

[stray siren]

Same discussion as here

TW btw

[pine slate]

We need our cn bros to make assassination attempts

[rugged raven]

it also depend on the reruns
cause the problem with "limited" in any game
is at some point they can just straight up forget about the character
and go on dozen of patches without reruns

[analog coral]

They're changing liv banner system?

[halcyon lodge]

oh here they said the rerun is 100% instead of 70% like arrival

[spiral merlin]

Assumptions

We don’t know

[halcyon lodge]

yeah sound too good to be true

[rugged raven]

we really are entering the part 2 of HI3
but you know witout the reduced pity for memories and weapon and all that

[main latch]

my worry is the income, will f2p still be guaranteed every new character with the changes?

[analog coral]

I miss one stream and suddenly kuro decides to overhaul their system

[main latch]

the weapon will probably be hard to get as a f2p so 5* it is for now

[analog coral]

But is liv actually our first true blue limited?

No guarantee of entering standard either?

[merry folio]

Themed construct and the Phylotree banner share the same pity right?

[spiral merlin]

To me it sounds like no standard

[stray siren]

That has always been the case since day one, except for Watanabe and Qu incident

[spiral merlin]

Nanami and ish

[median rivet]

Can anyone share the veronica build for both physical and ignition teams?

[spiral merlin]

vero and liv

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-trying-to-not-laugh-speed-holding-laugh-speed-laughing-speed-laugh-gif-242565803459391828

[true zinc]

Everything on debut is the same as always, and everything after is just speculation no ?

[spiral merlin]

Kuso greed ramping up

[analog coral]

If kamui doesn't drop as a dorm shop farmable then we're all screwed

[rugged raven]

man ive been saying this so many time
but Kuro REALLY need to step up their advertisement game as well as revamping the game into a much better state for new coming
seeing PGR only getting 900k last month is sad
like PGR get released in the same year as AK but the latter get so much more massively popular
PGR feels like its 6 years late for doing this whole revamp

[main latch]

but how long till the tripple patch ends? I have 4k bc and I am hoping I'll be at 12k by the liv patch

[humble phoenix]

What if i already have her?

[shy loom]

Guys, there's a official news about new characters(from liv new frame) will not be available in basic research. So i'm really confused about the free pick from basic res in anni patch, which one should i do, pick nanami from ss to ss3, or ss3+ pull 1 more copy to sss( if do this way, who should i pick? ishmael, lucia pyro or selena) ???

[spiral merlin]

Weapon disappears after debut that’s clear

[stray siren]

It wasn't the same, at least in my experience on TW, on Nanami's first day I was at 0 BC, and I finished the Nanami patch with 15K (BC and ET)

[spiral merlin]

[analog coral]

Wait this means I need ss3 + sig + cub on debut

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[spiral merlin]

W this is so player friendly

[true zinc]

Is it ? We have no idea how often they're gonna rerun

[spiral merlin]

True, but weapon disappears when rerun not active

[analog coral]

Imagine liv only reruns during anniversary season

[spiral merlin]

We know this

[median rivet]

[true zinc]

Yeah thats what i mean every aspect after the debut is speculation

[spiral merlin]

?

This part isn’t speculation

[analog coral]

I think they mean scheduling wise

[spiral merlin]

The weapon will disappear

[true zinc]

I mean scheduling and frequency

[analog coral]

The schedule post debut is entirely a blank

[spiral merlin]

Ah yeah schedule is unknown

[analog coral]

This is why they wanted accel to screw us in the ass

[spiral merlin]

But the fact that it disappears at all is alarming

[analog coral]

Foresight would've turned Veronica into a skip by now

[spiral merlin]

Truly a bait unit

[true zinc]

Think they should clarify more on how it works esp with wep and cubs, but yeah they could end up rerunning immediately after for all we know

[spiral merlin]

Then what would be the point

[true zinc]

Just a new name for fun idk what theyre thinking LMAO

[spiral merlin]

They made it explicitly clear that it’s truly limited

[analog coral]

Sorry wuwa needs money so we're paying for them

[true zinc]

Its a silly change if you're not gonna detail every aspect of how it functions

[analog coral]

They're not going to tell us rerun frequency

[spiral merlin]

It’s an awful change objectively

[analog coral]

Because they want our money

[pine slate]

Rerun frequency doesn't matter bro

The fact that u can't get cub or weapon whenever u want is already worse than what we have rn

[analog coral]

True

[spiral merlin]

[pine slate]

And u also can't get the new units on standard anymore

Something we could do before this

[analog coral]

Oh they're stopping that already? Or it's just Liv that's getting the special treatment

[pine slate]

We don't know that yet

But if all new units r gonna be there then it's worrying

[round lake]

has @unborn hound been right all along

may be Liv is truly a disaster

may be she is really skippable

[golden nacelle]

skip

[round lake]

[wind hemlock]

Ig it's the official call to kiwi

[round lake]

lets all skip Liv

[analog coral]

I mean I got my s rank wanshi already so what do I have to lose

First they come for my hmmmsleeper sticker on discord now they come for my money and bc

[golden nacelle]

limited banner is crazy

[feral flume]

This applies only to future characters or all?

[barren plank]

Who else do you already have?

[stray siren]

Future

Probably, if all new characters are added to the same banner ofc

Which would be complete garbage, simply because of the weapon

I don't think any server is certain they'll be added to the base banner either

[wind hemlock]

They do be turning game into a Wuwa but with the stablished powercreep

[stray siren]

I need to read what my KR bros think

[pine slate]

The wording makes it seem like they ain't getting added to standard

[spiral merlin]

Yeah I think so too

[stray siren]

Yeah, TW thinks the same

Damn, I can't find the KR server

[analog coral]

What's the original cn wording

[pine slate]

Idk why they make it very vague on dogshit announcements like this

[spiral merlin]

That’s on purpose

[feral flume]

Powercreep don't exist in wuwa everyone is useable in any content but that doesn't apply to PGR truly cooked

[stray siren]

I'm also looking for it to translate it

[analog coral]

With the power of trying to read between the lines combined

[stray siren]

TW

But think it's not necessary. If TW Bros have the same doubts as us; it's because Kuro isn't answering anything

[barren plank]

Huh

This sounds like HR speak for "we really want you to FOMO into topping up now even though pretty much everyone was gonna pull anyways, so we are not gonna rerun her"

[barren plank]

Can u unblock plez dalao

[tender lantern]

Hi, can you help me please? I downloaded the game and I can't hear any sound. I've tried everything and nothing has worked.

[warped axle]

so she's finally not garbage on nihil now?

[rose yew]

you should go to #tech-suppᴏrt for that

[round lake]

the wording is very vague, which is funny
they didn't say Liv will ONLY be available in her own type of banner
they also didn't say her Sig and CUB will NEVER enter the regular pool

this is all a ploy to create drama so they can pull a "Devs listened" moment

[rose yew]

No way actual reading in PGR

[stray siren]

Probably a question for #📨・tech-support

[spiral merlin]

Regular pool for weapons being the standard weapon banner?

That’s not really a defense at all

[round lake]

I mean the normal Sig banner ofc

they only said it will be available at the same time as Liv

[stray siren]

How PGR has a good point

Vegetable family cats are poor and hungry what a good nickname

[round lake]

this is super bad for newbies no doubt

[atomic kayak]

Alright
Who needs ss3 the most

[ionic citrus]

Is there any info of kit for these 2

[normal sierra]

they just have been announced a few hours ago, literally just 1 image for both, that's it

[ionic citrus]

Is there any news for the new dark tank

[normal sierra]

there is no new dark tank, Bonkerina is eternal

[autumn mist]

Reject meta, embrace Bonk

[buoyant hornet]

https://x.com/PGR_GLOBAL/status/1984802643613794389?t=iD2RopPuThdd4Z0zLuKc-Q&s=19

Punishing: Gray Raven (@PGR_GLOBAL)

Dear Commandants,
It has been brought to our attention that there are questions among commandants regarding the acquisition of the new frame [Liv: Limpidity]. Here are the detailed explanations:
The S-Rank Omniframe [Liv: Limpidity] will become available after the version update

X · Nov 2, 2025, 2:00 AM

Way to follow up a good stream kuro :/

[buoyant hornet]

They actually literally said the first part

[round lake]

It's so over
We are so back
It's so over

[buoyant hornet]

Just ridiculous

[round lake]

They didn't btw, find me the word ONLY

It's vague and could be right for both side

[buoyant hornet]

There's 1000% no benefit to anyone from this except their greed

[round lake]

Although, we should expect the worst outcome

[round lake]

Kurogame totally can make this a true limited

[buoyant hornet]

Like what's the point of this

[round lake]

Temporary unavailable
Like all other S rank
Expected to be obtained again from rerun, not that it's ONLY available from rerun

As I said, it's very vague and could be right for both situations

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah thinly veiled greed by using vague wording

Regardless of how straightforward it is, this is how it reads to anyone who's seeing this

[round lake]

This way we can't blame them for misunderstanding their wording

And if it gets worse they can just pull a "Devs Listened"

[normal sierra]

I can blame them for being vague as f...ruit

[round lake]

Those bastards are playing with words

[buoyant hornet]

That banner has zero benefits compared to the usual

No special freebies, not a special free character like Lilith, same pity counts, same drop rate presumably

[spiral merlin]

When I know characters won’t be added to base banner but I just can’t prove it

[round lake]

It sounds cooler

OMG TREE

[buoyant hornet]

That's literally the #1 implication here yes it's just so ??????

[round lake]

[normal sierra]

I'm waiting for the "paid only" banner type

[buoyant hornet]

Like forget about f2p getting access to her SS3

If multiple characters become locked to her banner, newer players straight up miss them entirely

[round lake]

Its what most of us see at first read
But it can be twisted to a different meaning

Thats what I meant, its so vague

[spiral merlin]

‘There were some concerns about how vague our statement was on the stream. Here is a vaguer statement.’

[round lake]

[normal sierra]

peak vagueness right there

[round lake]

I think we're probably underestimating how much they can manipulate our feelings

[spiral merlin]

Real smart move to make everyone mad

[normal sierra]

they can manipulate me to 🥝 easily at this point

[spiral merlin]

Even linasera is speaking up about it so maybe that’ll give glb some reach here

[spiral merlin]

And pillar of the community but erm

[buoyant hornet]

Nah they're seriously dumb for this

[pine slate]

[pine slate]

pgr still got ur life?

[buoyant hornet]

I mean if they make every single future character like this then it's looking shaky

[past thicket]

eos when

[pine slate]

i think i have a good reason to quit comfortably now

[ripe stag]

Love Kuro for doing this

They are forcing people to leave

They care about our mental health

[ripe stag]

Every single Phylotree Nexus character

Every unit which uses this tech

So it might not include the new Alpha

[round lake]

I'm grateful, ty Kusogame

Kamui frame is apparently from the past so he won't be included

[ripe stag]

Any source?

[round lake]

Teddy idk

[ripe stag]

Teddy gets frames from norman

[buoyant hornet]

Great so they're just making a bunch of characters with objectively bad banners

[ripe stag]

So

[spiral merlin]

Not the typo

[ripe stag]

Might not

[spiral merlin]

They truly don’t care

[ripe stag]

Phylotree of Ousir

Instead of Ousia

[ripe stag]

Yea

[round lake]

Bro pulled a new frame out of his ass

[ripe stag]

Basically "This character comes from the Collab of all the factions"

[buoyant hornet]

I mean this doesn't really prove the story itself is from the past but who knows

[round lake]

"I haven't used this tech since the Heian Era"

[ripe stag]

wait wait

"From before he joined Babylonia"

TF YOU MEAN BY THIS?

HE LITERALLY WAS "BORN" IN BABYLONIA

[spiral merlin]

Sukuna should malevolent shrine pgr to turn it to dust

[ripe stag]

Kamui was born in Babylonia no?

[buoyant hornet]

But it does mean he's PROBABLY not from the garbagetree of ousir

[round lake]

On stream they said we'll follow Kamui story from before he joined Babylonia

[ripe stag]

Now now

Does this mean Kamui is gonna use Camu's battle armor?

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe?

[round lake]

Its so weird idk

[rain anchor]

doesnt affect weapon and cub guys we can chill

[spiral merlin]

I think they’re talking about the energy source

[rain anchor]

though still unusual

[round lake]

How do u know for sure tho

[ripe stag]

Kamui was born in Babylonia

There's no way he can have a frame when he wasn't even in Babylonia

[spiral merlin]

It does

[ripe stag]

It does

Sigs
Characters
Cubs

Will have limited time banners now

[rain anchor]

ok kms

[buoyant hornet]

I was thinking of that too lol

[round lake]

Kusogame pulling new pasts out of their asses

[buoyant hornet]

Just like veronica going on dates with commandant using her old frame that she threw away before skk was even born

[normal sierra]

so kamui will pull off the ever so frequent story nowadays that tells the tale of how hard and expensive it is to make and design new, moar powaful frames, while a frame from the stone age is apparently better than newer made ones

[round lake]

[buoyant hornet]

They said "what's a timeline"

[round lake]

Perhaps this is different because it's a ||new timeline||

:clueless:

[spiral merlin]

Pretty sure the whole phylotree sht is ishmael related

It’s a good thing ish is part of the control court and not the science council

My goat would never do this

[normal sierra]

that phylotree thing is an actual term used in programming

[spiral merlin]

And what’s a Ousia

[normal sierra]

no clue

[buoyant hornet]

Excuse you I think you mean ousiR

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-angry-ishowspeed-overwhelmed-i-show-speed-ishowspeed-early-stream-gif-10270539420371864887

[round lake]

Damn it Fraudmael

[spiral merlin]

Watch your tone

[round lake]

[normal sierra]

fraudmael ruined everything

[spiral merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1428345326443565179/CFC83B3119AA4E32AF9A35396091FA94.gif

[ripe stag]

Being
Substance
Essense

Any of the 3

[spiral merlin]

[round lake]

New Alpha frame will be "I stole this secret frame from Babylonia and hid it before I joined the Ascendants"

[ripe stag]

It's an improved MIND system

Connecting everyone to the HIVE MIND

wait

IS THIS

COSMOS IN THE LOSTBELT

[round lake]

[ripe stag]

Synchronised Intellectual Nation

[normal sierra]

it's just the usual, they pulling out these words used maybe 2 times per centuries by a single person
I dunno why, maybe they think they sound more "intellectual" by doing so or something

[ripe stag]

[spiral merlin]

As always

Limpidity is such an awful sounding word

[ripe stag]

Ousia is greek word

[normal sierra]

and pgr is a greek game... ohh, wait

[ripe stag]

"Phylotree" can refer to a phylogenetic tree, a branching diagram that illustrates the evolutionary history and relationships between different biological species or groups of organisms.

[edgy trench]

ahh, i forgot to watch the live, what are we getting next update?

[spiral merlin]

Bent over

[stray siren]

Nothing to analyze, Aetherlao had already warned us

[edgy trench]

what

[ripe stag]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxfV0jKUHryOQhq_4VoXVs3ge6ScBGJQ5F?si=MfQlWwtOq8L7WxfQ

Scroll down from here

You'll see all of them

[normal sierra]

at least this word is still used in programming, so I knew about it

[spiral merlin]

Limited units

[golden merlin]

wait whatttt
so they literally meant
there are going to be limited time characters?!

[edgy trench]

... i guess ill have to watch the live then

[surreal nest]

wait so is this phylotree banner things share the same pity it has with the themed banner rn or does it have a separate one

[spiral merlin]

It’s a single throwaway line in the live

Easy to miss

Prob intentional

And their vague ass statement also intentional

[ripe stag]

Yes
Actual limited units

[spiral merlin]

Pity is shared

[ripe stag]

Shared as in "same" or actually shared

[golden merlin]

fk
alr bye pgr

[spiral merlin]

Actually shared

[cerulean grotto]

I see ezra still doing well here

[ripe stag]

Then pity will stay no?

[cerulean grotto]

[spiral merlin]

Yes? That’s what shared means

[golden merlin]

this is just capitalizing on fomo

[normal sierra]

it's when those salesman trying to sell you their "cheap" junk, saying a lot of blabla that wraps up the actual scam in the middle

[ripe stag]

AURORA ?

[edgy trench]

new lightning attacker? is she gonna replace nanami?

[cerulean grotto]

Miss me?

[surreal nest]

shes going to be played with nanami

[ripe stag]

No i mean
The pity on Phylotree banner
I thought they meant that the pity Will reset for Phylotree

[spiral merlin]

Funnily enough I said something very similar #📨・meta-help message

[ripe stag]

Well ofcourse

[edgy trench]

do you know whats her role gonna be? is she the main dps or sub or something?

[round lake]

Ppl called him a mad man
But what he predicted came to pass

[cerulean grotto]

Pity I'm bricked asf atm

[ripe stag]

[cerulean grotto]

The new banner sounds awesome tho

[spiral merlin]

For ss0 it’s complicated if we go by beta

[ripe stag]

PGR isn't gonna survive even 10 years with this

[cerulean grotto]

[normal sierra]

ohh yea, saw that

[ripe stag]

PGR lost its identity

[spiral merlin]

I realised I was replying to one of your messages with that lol so that makes sense

[normal sierra]

[cerulean grotto]

Fr I can't even recognise pgr, also norman 6 worse than peak norman 5, cleared it with gen 2

[normal sierra]

wutdafruit, that a name I haven't seen for a long time

[cerulean grotto]

Bianca called me

[golden merlin]

[ripe stag]

@spiral merlin that means I can't even SS3 Liv

[spiral merlin]

Calculated by kuro

Make liv weak as hell at ss0

Make her limited

$$$

[ripe stag]

First Skip or SS3

PGR entering skip meta

[spiral merlin]

Need to see how she is in live first because there’s a slim chance she changes

She hasn’t changed at all since her initial buff so she’s looking pretty locked in

[ripe stag]

How big is the score gap between SS3 Nanaknight solo and 2 Liv 2.1 Nana swap

[spiral merlin]

Unsure on scores all I know is ss0 liv ≈ ss0 nanami

[ripe stag]

Oh man

This isn't good

[normal sierra]

wuts with these new attackers all being giga mid?

[spiral merlin]

To the point where I think people still used solo nana with Luna + Lilith?

[ripe stag]

Probably cuz Kuro wanna earn

[hazy blaze]

Did PGR global caught up to cn already?

[ripe stag]

So base invest is bad

[spiral merlin]

Could be wrong tho since it’s all hearsay

[ripe stag]

Ye

[spiral merlin]

Yes

[hazy blaze]

Dam I did leave for a long time

Did 6th anniv already patch?

[spiral merlin]

No

[hazy blaze]

I left during iirc wanshi patch? Idk if I will catch up easily if I come back

[normal sierra]

it's my anniv, they should gib me extra presents

[spiral merlin]

Skipping during sync is a death sentence

You might be cooked

[hazy blaze]

Got school sht to do sadly

How cooked am I

I think I came back to pull for vergil and left with no pulls left

[spiral merlin]

On a scale of 1-10 probably a 9

[hazy blaze]

Literally drained

[ripe stag]

Giga cooked

[hazy blaze]

What was there during sync?

[cold walrus]

Sure you all will be banned for misinfo propaganda

[ripe stag]

Ton crap of extra resources
A year worth of S ranks
Complete meta shift

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-streamer-content-creator-stressing-gif-6272246570529865701

[hazy blaze]

Complete meta shift is crazy

I mean just pretend I played the game like 2 years ago I guess

[cold walrus]

Tbh if they really want to pull this trick, i better skip liffu entirely on my acc

[hazy blaze]

If I am so cooked is it even worth to come back to play

[round lake]

Nope

[spiral merlin]

If ss0 liv hasn’t changed at all it really might be a skip idk

[round lake]

Khaled was right the entire time
And we called him cope

[spiral merlin]

Vera should be able to solo darkflow fine

[round lake]

[spiral merlin]

Nana solo light

[hazy blaze]

Dam ok

I would expect ppl to say its worth to come back during anniv

[cold walrus]

Solo sss nanami for.lightning and solo sss vera for df is better than swap with ss0.liffu

[hazy blaze]

Apparently its that sht

[spiral merlin]

Oh yea for sure skip

Damn

Truly cooked

[cold walrus]

No, it is just speculation

[stray siren]

Technically you can consider yourself a novice player, and it will take you a year to reach "meta" if you're f2p

[round lake]

I'm not joking btw, it might not be worth anymore with how much they're fcking things up over the recent patchez

[spiral merlin]

Is it

[round lake]

Once u come back u will start from zero

[hazy blaze]

What did they really do 😭 , pgr wasnt this bad b4

[round lake]

You're right it wasn't this bad before

[normal sierra]

I can just get sss nana instead of liv too, liv off to the skip list

[round lake]

I'll just SSS Vera for Darkflop

[cold walrus]

But her ss0 performance is really mid. If the diff between solo nana or vera and swap with ss0 liffu isn't really great, in that case old sss units can be really better

[cold walrus]

Need to build hervor set

[round lake]

My Nanami is already high invest so Lightning will not be my issue for the next 6 months

[hazy blaze]

I think I skipped these patch, except I got vergil

[spiral merlin]

If liv really doesn’t get added to base, what’s stopping people from pulling nana/vera and increasing chances of foregoing liv

Did Kuso not think anything thru

[round lake]

[cold walrus]

Pgr folks like to skip chars

[hazy blaze]

I didnt get the other char cuz I was just there to pull and delete

[round lake]

They might just have another plan we don't know and can't prove it

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[cold walrus]

They also announced a new alpha. Sure many players started to save their resources, they can skip liffu as well

[hazy blaze]

Wait so who are the current meta dps

[spiral merlin]

Why play pgr when you can play alpha gray raven

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-pgr-eye-of-rah-gif-4570982024066510840

[round lake]

[ripe stag]

Yea it started
And then they'll complain about damage

Normal thing

Like how it happened during CW patch

[hazy blaze]

What literally happened bruh

[ripe stag]

Remove CW with Liv

[spiral merlin]

Cw on darkflow

[ripe stag]

Ishmael instead of Feral tbf

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849