📨・meta-help

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And looking for work as well in the meantime

But okay generally

Wbu?

[crystal rune]

Uhh

Like usual

Not too busy but with midterms coming up

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Oh shi

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Can’t really bald pgr like usual baldnir

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😔

Well u can once they finish 🥹

[crystal rune]

2 weeks of onetapping MeiHigh

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Btw if ur doing vero 2 rot

Is it better to do fast first then long one or vice versa

[crystal rune]

owhh

I haven’t played enough vero to know, usually just do long into short but idk if that’s specifically needed

Can try short into long depending on breakpoint

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Ah cuz her highest damage is from ult 1 and spin?

So under amp buff

[crystal rune]

Seems

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Ight cool

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Off field dot too

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Oh?

Oh feck im in legend

💔

[crystal rune]

We should’ve matched brackets xdd

[cobalt plover]

Hello there
I dont really know.. I dont have pyroath

[cobalt plover]

You would end like dow and khaled with whale bracket

[crystal rune]

I mean

I have multiple whels IB my bracket

[cobalt plover]

Full then fast afaik

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Just 90% if them suck because it’s eu besides this top 1% IB guy

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True

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xdd

[cobalt plover]

Most of whales kinda

Also most players

[crystal rune]

Whel in my bracket hasn’t even completed sequence pact

[cobalt plover]

Wait what

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

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For both burn and phys?

I dont have han

[cobalt plover]

For burn I use full then fast
For phys I use just fast

Without han you’re using rosetta right?

[cobalt plover]

He hasnt completed sequence pact with the game yelling on their ear to do it

They dont mind the blue dots fr fr

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I knew eu was slack but I just couldn’t believe what I saw

[cobalt plover]

I never played on eu

Its that bad?

[crystal rune]

Its bad bad

[cobalt plover]

Fair enough

[crystal rune]

Full 3S fire team score 800w

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

[cobalt plover]

Wait

They just pressing any buttons

[crystal rune]

It’s beyond slack xdd

[gray beacon]

Yuh

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:0

[cobalt plover]

Ngl I dont really know her rot

Who’s your carry for phys?

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Midlena

[trim apex]

For ignition, most of the time you do fast rot first to extend the Ignition duration (to keep 20 stacks alive), then you do the long rot to increase the DoT for the next 24 seconds.

[gray beacon]

Oh she does DoT?

Idk much abt vero tbh

[trim apex]

She increases ignition DoT (SS passive and SSS passive)

[gray beacon]

Damn

[trim apex]

She also stacks a buffs that increases Ignition base damage, but she stack it to the highest via long rot (spin)

[trim apex]

Yeah most of her dmg in ignition comes from buffing the DoT

[compact fern]

all dante vero runs ive seen use vero big ult first

at least at ss

[young badge]

all under 3s uses big ult first

[compact fern]

ye

[trim apex]

Dante 1 rot or 2 rot?

[cobalt plover]

Finally someone that read it too

[icy otter]

Holy hax??? What's invest

[compact fern]

vero cd isnt even done if u one rot dante lol
least u can do is big ult and hold ult on dante

[trim apex]

Apparently readers are a rare breed on PGR global

[cobalt plover]

Yep since she’ll stack more relit stacks (check her core passive)
Each relit buffs ignition damage (the affix damage itself)

[cobalt plover]

True

[trim apex]

I find it strange that you’d long rot on Vero first in that case, like you are letting the ignition stacks die

But maybe at SS it works out?

[compact fern]

dont care abt kit if i know how to play her thats all it matters
i still dont know why selena fooks up floaty blue i just knwo it does if u go too fast

[cobalt plover]

Ss doesnt change her rot

[cobalt plover]

You’d know if you read

[compact fern]

still onetap 10m ss vero and ss3 dante bro
i dont need more

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Legend or hero?

[compact fern]

legend

[rocky wedge]

2.332 122 s cubs

[cobalt plover]

Hmm

[cobalt plover]

Saw someone with 333 333 (dante wata vero) doing 18m
Think you can get around 12m

[rocky wedge]

dante / wata / vero

[compact fern]

this my bracket bro i cant retain even if i try

[cobalt plover]

His name is mald, roblox pic

[trim apex]

Dante Vero Wata team at SSS top is around 18.1 mil

[compact fern]

3 whels havent played yet

[cobalt plover]

Well then..

[compact fern]

me not lucky like nuke bracket

[cobalt plover]

Yea
See you in hero

[compact fern]

[trim apex]

In boss zone Vero weather* still yet to have ignition elites/mobs

[cobalt plover]

Anyway
Vero
Buff fire damage, buff affix damage, make stack do more ticks per second, resets stacks if ult2 on ignited enemies

Thats the summary

[trim apex]

But I predict Vero/Dante will do a bit better than Vero/Nana for mobs

[compact fern]

ye if u dont ult 2 later u run out of stacks while doing double rot dante

[cobalt plover]

Yep

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Yes

[compact fern]

i dont even like wz anyway
ppc onetap max score and sleep

[cobalt plover]

It has more to do with wata than nana I think

[compact fern]

pretty sure dante is better than nana in all situation unless ss3 nana provided u have sss wata

ss3 dante vs ss nana i mean

[cobalt plover]

Probably

[compact fern]

most ss vero vera nana runs i see stuck at 8.5-9m

[cobalt plover]

Yep

[compact fern]

people trashtalk dante too much ngl for no reason

[cobalt plover]

I know that this team scores around 18m on 333
For 223 maybe its 12m

[compact fern]

its ok if u skipped no need to trashtalk smh

[keen meteor]

Wilde

[cobalt plover]

Parrot talk and nobody reads

[slate gull]

dante sugs coz why not

[compact fern]

[slate gull]

no need reason

[cobalt plover]

Fair enough actually

[slate gull]

[compact fern]

people hate dante to justify their reason for skipping thats all there is to it

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Not really

[compact fern]

it is

[cobalt plover]

They hate dmc for dmc fans I guess

[cobalt plover]

Its not
Most people that hate it actually pulled

At least for dante
Check ezra for example

Now he changing his mind

[keen meteor]

I think their monitor was off

[compact fern]

ezra hypocrite says dmc sucks but has sss vergil

[keen meteor]

That has to be it

[cobalt plover]

The problem is between the chair and the monitor

[cobalt plover]

Ngl he started the parrot talk about dante

I was advocating for the dead only for HIGH investment

444 invest whales

[compact fern]

[cobalt plover]

then vera, vero and nana is stronger

[cobalt plover]

?

[compact fern]

not for u just saying dumb hate on dante in general

[cobalt plover]

True

“Dante ded”
“Sure cn investment is realistic”

cn investment is minimum 444

[keen meteor]

Yeah. His eyes were closed too

[trim apex]

Vero/Nana at 3S top score is like 19.4, 1.4 mil diff with same invest Dante team

[compact fern]

dante onetap 10m meanwhile nana bald run 9m

[cobalt plover]

Thats not much
Dante’s team is a lot cheaper

Like A LOT cheaper

[trim apex]

Granted it’s mega sweaty top score, most ppl will be around 18mil for Vero/Nana

[cobalt plover]

I dont understood the comparison with sss vero with sss dante
They are not the same cost

[compact fern]

3s dante is 21k bc + 3s wata free
3s nana is 60k bc+3s vera is 60k bc
nice comparison

[trim apex]

Though, if you don’t sweat Dante/Vero you can’t get to 18mil either so…

[compact fern]

[cobalt plover]

Tbh dante vero seems easier to mald since its two units instead of three
Wata doesnt even touch the field for most time

[compact fern]

literally 21k vs 120k bc comarison

[trim apex]

332 Vero/Nana/Vera can get like 17 mil as well

[cobalt plover]

Could advocate for 36k for first copy wata

[compact fern]

15k

ok yea 36k vs 120k

[cobalt plover]

[compact fern]

still dumb argument lol

[keen meteor]

Yeah but imagine u pulled dante and skipped vero and people who didnt play DMC now have veri and they score more than u and now u need vero if u wanna compete. Thats the main problem here. You wasted resources even if it's "a lot cheaper"

[compact fern]

its so dumb seeing people comare 3s dante vs 3s nana vera

[cobalt plover]

But you dont understand… they are the same rank…

[keen meteor]

But if u dont care about minmaxing then yeah it doesnt matter

[cobalt plover]

Fair enough

[compact fern]

36k vs 120k bs for 1.5m extra score

nice nice

[cobalt plover]

But people who got dante and skipped vero are just dmc simps

Doesnt matter for them I guess

[keen meteor]

Yeah

But this "cheaper" argument isnt a good one in "meta" channel

Cs u know meta = minmaxing

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real

[compact fern]

whatever man
ill keep saying people hating on dante are just dumb
go spend ur 120k nobody cares

[slate gull]

3S nana is 120k?

[cobalt plover]

It is no?
Saving bc is a efficient strategy

[compact fern]

3s nana+3s vera

vs 3s wata and dante

vero is common

[trim apex]

So is Dante weaker? If we look at the facts, yes. Top score at 3S is 1.4 mil diff, at S+ is at least 2 mil diff. Most ppl won’t be mega sweaty to hit those scores, but nonetheless it’s easier for Vero/Nana to score higher than Dant/Vero. Now Dante is cheaper than Vero, but cost effectiveness is kinda out of the window when it’s a gacha game and ppl will justify their purchases no matter what

[keen meteor]

Its not if u want the best team. It is when u dont care. People just forget what channel this is

[compact fern]

literally 4x invest needed

[young badge]

u dont need 3s vera to begin with

[compact fern]

still 36k vs 75k bc lmao even if ss vera

so comarison just dumb af

[keen meteor]

Equak invest yes. Different invest he can be stronger or weaker. Simple as that

[cobalt plover]

Hmmm

[compact fern]

put that extra 40k bc in dante team then compare smh

[keen meteor]

This "meta help" not "spend efficiently help"

[young badge]

at max invest vero still scores better though

[cobalt plover]

True

[trim apex]

Kinda of a nothing burger point (of course mah dude), but comparing at equal is like the only objective way to test which one is stronger (score the most under the wz rules)

[slate gull]

looking at Ignition only, it is a dumb comparison

[compact fern]

change cn name to whel help then
i bet not even 10% people here got sss nana

[trim apex]

Price is not a concern to meta slaves

[deft apex]

Ultimately u use who u want, this whole point is a nothing burguer. If you don't want to use Veronica then don't, and if u're hellbent on saying one is better than the other u can also test for yourself

Hi

[keen meteor]

Yeah exactly and like I said. If dante and vero were out at the same time then yeah this one is cheaper would be a good argument. But the point is now ure invested dante will compete with invested vero players and lose

[slate gull]

hi

[keen meteor]

How about u go talk in "general help" and preach ur "spend bc efficiently" there

It will be better received in there

[cobalt plover]

Why are you arguing

Dante is not even in the game anymore

[deft apex]

Rite of passage in meta help

[compact fern]

[cobalt plover]

[cobalt plover]

True

This feels like extaria argument ngl

[trim apex]

…yes…did you read what I said like 2 sentences earlier

[keen meteor]

He's the one calling it dumb constantly. Im explaining how its not that dumb

[slate gull]

is dante even used in fire? nope. so yeah 21k is justified for being good at only 1 team

[wanton hatch]

[keen meteor]

Yeah im just agreeing with u...

[compact fern]

why even talk fire this is dante vs vero lol

[cobalt plover]

https://tenor.com/view/extaria-dante-fire-warzone-pgr-fire-wz-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-6564593099520871127

[trim apex]

Relax. Your attitude is not helping your case

[fading kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1426576096316358746/donut.gif

[cobalt plover]

True

[keen meteor]

?

[slate gull]

okay they are close minded. why even argue

[cobalt plover]

I never noticed the size of gray raven under punishing

[trim apex]

His Dr. Faust rot is fast for fire PPC so he kinda replaces Pyroath at same invest in PPC. Also in wz SSS Dante is roughly equivalent to SS3 Pyroath

When your goal is not meta top score, all of a sudden there are lot more meta choices available to you

[cobalt plover]

Scores a bit lower ngl

But for ppc he’s better than pyro I think

[compact fern]

for ppc u just solo gera at least for current bosses

[cold walrus]

still cheaper than 60k for the unit who's good only in one team, while in the second team she sucks

[cobalt plover]

[cobalt plover]

Phys is

Phys is not real

[cold walrus]

tbh dante is a better invest in burn if we're talking about price/effectiveness

[compact fern]

ye but people here dont care about price

[cold walrus]

i pulled sss veronica

[distant wren]

what is happening rn

[keen meteor]

Dante vs Vero

[trim apex]

Usually fast slash/eclipse Pyroath into Geiravor. Dante’s advantage is that his burst rot is faster and activates enhanced QTE and off-field fire dmg

[cobalt plover]

Argument between someone who says dante team (vero wata dante) is cheaper than vero team (vero vera nana) and another one that says meta chat doesnt care about cost effectiveness

[keen meteor]

1 v 1

[cobalt plover]

His fire rot is one of the fastest in the game its kinda op ngl

[compact fern]

this strat is only viable if u have both pyro and gera ss3
ss gera solo gwyn cap is 16 sec
ss gera sss dante is 15 sec
ss3 gera ss3 pyro is 14 sec

[distant wren]

objective comparison obviously dante is worse since you need to compare at equal ranks
being cheap can be taken into account but it's a diff argument lol

considering

1. limited unit likely never coming back
2. sandwiched between 2 gacha s rank patches in the game

[compact fern]

u dont have damage for 14 sec without ss3 gera

[keen meteor]

BTW i dont even like vero. I skipped her and I did get ss3 dente. But Im just trynna give out objective info u know

[distant wren]

like yea if you already invested hard into dante then congrats as long as you didn't brick your acc
but only if you already did

cause if you had him at homeless invest what's even the point anymore lol, you can't get him now

[keen meteor]

We wouldve all been happy if vero wasnt a burn unit tbh

[compact fern]

ss3 pyro atm has 0 use in fire expc bosses without ss3 gera
sss dante can still be used without ss3 gera

[trim apex]

Dante is gone from us too soon

[cobalt plover]

True

[cobalt plover]

Thats what I said
Pojntless argument since dante is not even in the game anymore

[distant wren]

i will also say that if you're a whale then anything goes
but if f2p or low spender then it's very debatable if pulling him is smart investment lol

[deft apex]

then it

[forest wind]

it then

[keen meteor]

Definitely it

[cobalt plover]

They got him.

[distant wren]

damn enter key

[trim apex]

It is what it

[distant wren]

anyway this is why a certain "firegod" was banned from this channel for advocating newbies/f2ps to pull dante sss

[cobalt plover]

Ngl he got kinda avenged with dante wata vero scoring that high
But he was advocating for fire dante which is

[slate gull]

his fire got EXTinguished

[distant wren]

cause he thought everyone had infinite resources like him

[cobalt plover]

True

[distant wren]

it's not about the score lol, i also think his score is pretty decent/good enough

[trim apex]

I thought the point of Meta help is to help ppl achieve the highest scores they can with the invest that they have (no matter how🧱 their account is)

[distant wren]

also "getting dante over pyroath cause he's cheaper" only works for people without pyroath in the first place at that point

[trim apex]

So giving advice on pulling is kinda

[forest wind]

Those who SSS Dante is either have resource for it or is a big fan of DMC, like me or just a whale

[cobalt plover]

Which was kinda big at that point I guess
Many new players for dmc I think

[distant wren]

if someone already has pyro ss0+sig why would you recommend pulling dante

(for fire i mean)

[cobalt plover]

No idea

[cobalt plover]

Because he firegod

And got sad with vera doing more damage than pyro

[cold walrus]

unless you're extaria

[distant wren]

[cold walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-wz-pgr-warzone-donut-died-extaria-extaria-lied-gif-6696857670973946134

[forest wind]

I'm that person, joined in late pyroath patch
Only pulled Nanaknight
Dante and Unc is my fire team(skipped Vera to SS3 Piano)

[cobalt plover]

Skipped vera

[cold walrus]

skipping vera in current meta is a crime

[distant wren]

may i ask why u skipped vera

[trim apex]

The best newbie decision that I made was to pull Vera

[opaque ridge]

Ultimately u use who u want, this whole point is a nothing burguer. If you don't want to use Veronica then don't, and if u're hellbent on saying one is better than the other u can also test for yourself

[young badge]

Ultimately u use who u want, this whole point is a nothing burguer. If you don't want to use Veronica then don't, and if u're hellbent on saying one is better than the other u can also test for yourself

[cobalt plover]

Tbh extaria lacked just poor knowledge I guess
I got sss dante but wont recommend them for f2p

[forest wind]

1. To SS3 Selena
2. Save BC to SSS both twins

[trim apex]

Ultimately u use who u want, this whole point is a nothing burguer. If you don't want to use Veronica then don't, and if u're hellbent on saying one is better than the other u can also test for yourself

[distant wren]

well it already happened but i will still say that getting vera was way more important than ss3 selena
(unless you really like selena so you willingly bricked)

[cobalt plover]

True

[forest wind]

Yeah, my fire team is scuffed, but hey, I got both Unc at SSS, that's something
Will definitely get Vera on anni banner
And I get to use flower ult Selena everytime I use physical team, yeay, worth it

[opaque ridge]

livestream on saturday

[cobalt plover]

Fair enough

[cobalt plover]

Surely

[distant wren]

fair enough

[deft apex]

Yea we know Chinese spy

[opaque ridge]

annouces EoS, we all quit

[slate gull]

jokes on kuro, i already quit before eos

[cobalt plover]

Jokes on kuro
I already eosed

[distant wren]

then again today we still have some "content creators" pushing wrong build on vera so...can't blame people getting misled

[stray siren]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-lucia-liv-gif-4804815064128199408

[cobalt plover]

Content creators on pgr

[cobalt plover]

Saw someone thwt pulled luna on blue banner because of a CC

[cold walrus]

[distant wren]

which luna? laurel?

[slate gull]

i hope so

it'd be funnier that way

[cobalt plover]

Oblivion I think

[stray siren]

Based

Laurel > Lamia > Bianca frfr

[median shell]

[opaque ridge]

remember how fun pgr used to be?

me neither

[young badge]

[median shell]

It's all suffering

[slate gull]

i remember

[stray siren]

PGR in 2018 >>>>

[cold walrus]

you mean hi3?

[stray siren]

Evangelion collab >>>> DmidC collab

[young badge]

[cobalt plover]

Shinji will be the perfect qte bot

[unborn hound]

billions must skip liv

[slate gull]

alpha forever

[unborn hound]

these alpha and liv frauds acting like nanami doesnt just solo their mid ass character

goatnami on top im afraid

[slate gull]

[cobalt plover]

How much ss3 liv is scoring on darkflow and lightning?

[unborn hound]

idk

[cobalt plover]

Wanna see if I skip

[unborn hound]

hell yeah just skip

[slate gull]

just do a 10-pull.....

[cobalt plover]

True

[slate gull]

and then one more....

[cobalt plover]

https://tenor.com/view/shaquille-o'neal-shaq-time-out-stop-stop-it-gif-8464852630431003027

[stray siren]

Perhaps it's much better in Darkflow

[cobalt plover]

From what I heard darkflow still kinda brick

[slate gull]

how come

[stray siren]

So, it's best to wait until SS/SS3 Dalao's get some results

[cobalt plover]

But lets not doompost her

Wait for LIVe

[unborn hound]

yeah i do a 10 pull

on anni banner for nanami sss

[cobalt plover]

Ngl im gonna do that I think

[unborn hound]

no we doompost

[cobalt plover]

we cant

You can actually

[slate gull]

nanamech?

[unborn hound]

solo vera get 1m less score in darkflow and thats with feral lmao not even daren swap or lilith qte bot

[cobalt plover]

A

Wait

Darkflow is forever tied to low scores apparently then

[unborn hound]

at 1st i was joking about her being mid but now im fr lol

she is mid and skippable

[cold walrus]

i wonder who'll be better in solo vera team, lilith or daren

[cold walrus]

she isn't mid, it is another case "pull sss or skip"

considering i have sss vera and nanami, pre sss liffu isn't really useful for me

[slate gull]

another kuso move

[unborn hound]

mechanami also wasnt skippable at sss but hey

[cold walrus]

we don't talk about it here

[trim apex]

I think for S frames nowadays Kuro makes the full kit at SSS and divide the mechanics onto rank passives

[cobalt plover]

True

[warped axle]

characters have been weak these past patches

[trim apex]

If that’s true any rank below SSS you got an incomplete package

[warped axle]

smh kuso scam

[trim apex]

F2P friendly where?

[warped axle]

I don't wanna skip Liv because she's Liv

idk why y'all wanna skip peak

[slate gull]

f2p no rights. always has been

[cold walrus]

can't even use blue orb if selena isn't sss lmao

[warped axle]

hey, she gets unlocked at SS3 tho

[trim apex]

The mechanic is technically still available to you, you just won’t be able to do it fast enough for optimal wz rot

[unborn hound]

i think they are toning down powercreep to sell coatings for old characters

[warped axle]

ah yes

[unborn hound]

popular ones at least

[trim apex]

Power creep still exists at SSS tho

[cobalt plover]

Could be

[warped axle]

10 more coatings for crimson brick

[trim apex]

So there’s a divide

[warped axle]

which could indicate that daren isn't getting replaced

[slate gull]

and these alpha dogs will still buy

[cobalt plover]

There always was
Thing is that score wasnt that big when it started happening

[cobalt plover]

She prob will be replaced bt another daren unit

And its not even a joke

[warped axle]

we'll see on weekends

[slate gull]

another karen unit before daren powercrept?

[proven hamlet]

Question, what should I use for top and bottom resonance?

For Pianissimo, I mean.

[warped axle]

pianissimo top - any +15 atk, bottom - core

her core op

[trim apex]

It “creeps” up on ya

[proven hamlet]

You mean her ult?

[warped axle]

it still infuriates me than Selena flower ult is locked behind SS3 for optimal rotation

[warped axle]

core passive

[proven hamlet]

Her passive?

[trim apex]

Core passive reso for pianissimo?!

[young badge]

what?

[warped axle]

isn't it?

[young badge]

u dont core passive?

[trim apex]

Wait that sounds troll af

[warped axle]

her core is the main damage source

u don't even got access to flower ult* at SS0

orchestra ult does 0 damage

hits like a strand of hair

[limber yoke]

its does 0 on phys

[slate gull]

tickle

[young badge]

that thing is just for chaining

[limber yoke]

glacio is pretty good

[warped axle]

it is good

although burn is overlapping glacio now

[proven hamlet]

Wait, so what should I take now?

[warped axle]

any +15 atk, core passive

[young badge]

so bad

[slate gull]

you can rest now

[warped axle]

Legend Squad = no mald week

[limber yoke]

K casual

[warped axle]

why would I when I'm not even gonna get to top 2

[limber yoke]

Thats on u getting a bad bracket

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/974317618859237457.png?quality=lossless&name=worryshrug&size=48

[young badge]

pls teach me get good bracket dalao

[slate gull]

getting a good bracket is the skill

[cobalt plover]

True

[proven hamlet]

Can you advise me on Selena?

[cobalt plover]

I dont have her…

But people seems to have answered you

[rocky wedge]

https://youtu.be/XHDhrE1PSNw

[cobalt plover]

Cant confirm it though

[warped axle]

what advice are you even looking for

[warped axle]

goodness gracious

Wata for that switch CD I assume

[rocky wedge]

and fire shred ye

[warped axle]

crazy to think about

not a single nanami

[rocky wedge]

thank god there is no enabler for this team

ye cause ss0 nana is pain in ignition Dx

brick

[warped axle]

considering there's 3 DPS' in burn if you get nanami in the team

[cobalt plover]

Wata is the perfect qte bot

[icy otter]

Score seems good then

[cobalt plover]

No need for nana on that team

[cobalt plover]

Ignition feels good because its one of the only affixes that doesnt need enablers

[slate gull]

out of curiosity, what's the best 444 ignition team?

[icy otter]

Last week legend was also same score for that invest

[rocky wedge]

oh damn i got the dante graphic wrong since im using GA not dlt, dont need dlt with deer

[icy otter]

But idk if zone is diff

[cobalt plover]

Feels bad on plasma for example
Nobody does damage outside of lucia

[cobalt plover]

Vero vera nana afaik

Scores roughly 24m iirc

[warped axle]

even nanami can't do damage

[slate gull]

dayummm

[cobalt plover]

True

[warped axle]

like, wdym she can't clear 1 wave

[cobalt plover]

Nana on plasma feels bad

[proven hamlet]

How to build her with Veronica as a buffer.

[icy otter]

Just run dv nana what could go wrong

[proven hamlet]

I currently have 4 Sig 2 Cottie.

[warped axle]

if you have her signature weapon harmonize with cottie and reso DLT

[cobalt plover]

Ngl could work I guess

[young badge]

whats 222 phys score for this week

[proven hamlet]

Are you sure that I should take her core passive?

[warped axle]

I have 3 mil on legend (somehow)

[proven hamlet]

Because I’m spending resources on this.

[young badge]

damn its that low?

[warped axle]

yes, I have explained this multiple times

[cobalt plover]

They dont believe you buff soldier

[warped axle]

idk don't take it from me, I did my best tho 💔💔

[proven hamlet]

Would you mind if I verified this with an advisor?

[slate gull]

not credible enough

[warped axle]

I have selena built dude

trust me

[icy otter]

@crystal rune do u mind trying on hero for my acc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

[warped axle]

is nergi even getting paid 💔

[young badge]

hes asleep alrdy prob

[slate gull]

gets paid with something else

[warped axle]

I have explained it thoroughly already on why core passive is the optimal reso💔

[icy otter]

He gets paid with poverty

[warped axle]

hmmmmmmmm

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1168402145012359178/1108281401381507144.gif

[warped axle]

man triple checking like its not easy to change resos

9x sim coins btw

[young badge]

why is it optimal

[rocky wedge]

ye but the stack thing is animalistic and the bosses suck too

[warped axle]

mainly because you have a difficult time to access the flower ult, and that alone has a cooldown. Her core passive is more accessible

also orchestra soap

[young badge]

what about class skill

[warped axle]

core deals massive damage

[cobalt plover]

True

[young badge]

more edb buff both ult and core

[rocky wedge]

always must be something with this game, we arent allowed to have fun simply

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[warped axle]

core has higher multiplicative advantage when boosted with reso, compared to class skill that is only a percent multiplier

[dreamy pelican]

billions will complain about scores on reddit

[dreamy pelican]

a lot is still a lot

[warped axle]

billions will whine

imagine being Liv-less

[dreamy pelican]

[unborn hound]

not like reddit users are good at getting scores

fk reddit

[young badge]

whats ur phys score now

[unborn hound]

i didnt mald after last time

phys is just tap

[young badge]

[unborn hound]

until hanying is gone

[young badge]

hanying fun

[unborn hound]

idc

[cobalt plover]

I prefer ts rot

[young badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1367811027068129380/1232051518316740628.gif

[unborn hound]

i dont even have the energy to hate her

[cobalt plover]

Phys rot is not satisfying to me

[young badge]

both rot fun

[unborn hound]

i just play phys a little and im like zamn the sheit is boring

[young badge]

its not boring if u play properly

[cobalt plover]

To me it is
I like the stab of ts han

Not boring but not satisfying

I like her stab animation

[young badge]

nah its becuz we rarely get ts

if ts appears frequently in wz like phys it'll also get boring

[cobalt plover]

True

[unborn hound]

no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1430963441778299071/image0.gif

[young badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205201024596316172/1408031681574866964/togif.gif

we need a coop wz

[icy otter]

Last time phys I got 5.3m in hero with 222

[young badge]

[icy otter]

110

[young badge]

alisa or vero

[icy otter]

Vero

[unborn hound]

pilot my phys

[icy otter]

My alisa is still r0 but now vero is r1 but I can't play the game to check this week

[icy otter]

Ask nerg

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1319546719972757534/a4b89894ed531fdc-1.gif

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/f-gif-16992623890208731454

[young badge]

ur reso is 111 right

[warped axle]

I have 2 resos (1 for liffu), do I give anyone reso here? (unshaded green are sigless/unreso'd)

Alisa down there I forgot to include her in the screenshot

[young badge]

lemme try on ur acc

[unborn hound]

ok

[icy otter]

222 111 do my acc first yuki

Khaled gets nuke pilot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1084721330726895616.gif

[young badge]

oh sh

[icy otter]

I alrd asked nerg to do my dailies

https://tenor.com/view/smiley-face-beer-drinking-beer-unphased-unbothered-gif-7129791970099847585

[unborn hound]

nuke didnt pilot this week smh

[icy otter]

It's still fire no he'll do it dw

[young badge]

wut is this

[unborn hound]

im not wasting usbs on her bruh

[young badge]

126k

[unborn hound]

idc

[young badge]

lemme do it

[unborn hound]

sync is gonna end

and funds are gonna dry up

[young badge]

ill get in 1 spin

[unborn hound]

dont

[icy otter]

Bro what

[unborn hound]

dont

[icy otter]

I have 20k and I would gamble anyday

[young badge]

[icy otter]

This guy

[unborn hound]

maybe thats why your ass poor

[icy otter]

That's why ass got a better vero

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173925642102902864.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ReallyNah

[unborn hound]

but sheit everything else

[icy otter]

Fk r3 vera whel

Mods delete his acc

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1430963441778299071/image0.gif

[young badge]

ss team is core passive?

[unborn hound]

if i get nana early i might ss3 vera

[unborn hound]

yes

[icy otter]

My han is class

After selena

[young badge]

wtf shred so bricced

[icy otter]

Single rot

[unborn hound]

actually it might be class now core was before midlena

[young badge]

maybe i should catherine on vero

[icy otter]

Bro ur phys inv is chopped not the characters

Okay han is chopped but not the other 2

[unborn hound]

invest is chopped cuz of the characters

why would i invest in garbage bruh

i barely wanted to reso wata

and he is actually worth soemthing

mfs be like "r3 vera " when they waste their resos on garbo ass units

at least vera is an amp and main dps

[icy otter]

Bruda the only r2 I have is vera

[slate gull]

:broke:

[unborn hound]

who da heck are u wasting reso on

oh wait u got dmc

so them probably

[icy otter]

2 reso there

1 reso luna

Luna reso is the only dead inv

[cobalt plover]

Reso luna yea

[icy otter]

Everyone else has usually been 1 reso for playable baseline

[cobalt plover]

My only 2 reso is vero

[unborn hound]

u got r1 bianca no?

[icy otter]

R0

[unborn hound]

smh

midianca always mid

im skipping liv thats why i r3 vera

reso was going to go to ted bundy nanami vera or vero

[young badge]

not so good

[upbeat orchid]

I sure wish I was in Hero rn...

[young badge]

actually bricced

[unborn hound]

gib rot idk how to phys

[young badge]

ok i record 1 run

[slate gull]

that looks like a balter hanying run

[unborn hound]

phys is my least played element

I literally dont even know what to do with selena

[cobalt plover]

Wait

What invest?

[unborn hound]

i just go in send it and leave

[unborn hound]

222 111

[slate gull]

it's not an element btw kekw

[unborn hound]

idc

[cobalt plover]

Its the absence of element

[icy otter]

Now try my acc true and real

[cobalt plover]

Hmmm

[icy otter]

Try all wz actually idt I can do both wz and ppc on Sunday

https://tenor.com/view/f-gif-16992623890208731454

[slate gull]

why not do mine as well

[unborn hound]

lightning is overhated

[cobalt plover]

Ts is overhated

Lightning is ok I guess

[slate gull]

ts deserves it

[cobalt plover]

Hey I like the team

[unborn hound]

btw vero wasnt even hted before this morning for phys

lol

and tbh it feels like a waste

[icy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160083380344475688.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=scrajj

[unborn hound]

shoudl've saved ht for tedbundy or daren

[cobalt plover]

Yes

[icy otter]

Does bro wanna top 1 or not

[unborn hound]

im already top 1 bruh

[cobalt plover]

I said it
She does no damagr on phys

[icy otter]

For now

[slate gull]

vero phys memories didnt need HT 😔

or did it?

[unborn hound]

shiver me timbers

They are gonna beat me

[icy otter]

Nice slack bracket

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173925642102902864.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ReallyNah

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/shiver-me-timbers-meme-gif-27707629

[unborn hound]

there is like 1 whel with sss lucia and nanami that hasnt done his runs tho

although he doesnt have pianno at all or vera hted lmao

[cobalt plover]

for the highest damage yes

[cobalt plover]

Im coming for you

Wait spirit
I think im on your bracket no cap fr fr

[unborn hound]

are u the sss lucia dude

[ripe stag]

4 Cottie or 2 Darwin 2 Cottie
Which one is better in general?

[cobalt plover]

Jk im not on that bracket

[unborn hound]

shame

[cobalt plover]

Im on one with someone named vergil

[unborn hound]

i wanted to beat your ass

[ripe stag]

Say the character either has most damage in ult or has the most damage in move after ult

[unborn hound]

i might have actually malded

[cobalt plover]

Ngl your light would stomp mine but my phys I think is better

Fire would be around the same

[ripe stag]

I'll stomp on both of you

[cobalt plover]

We could hang out on top 1 and 2

[ripe stag]

||in my dreams||

[unborn hound]

almost got 7.5 fire but choked

[cobalt plover]

Khaled 🤝 nijelt

[cobalt plover]

Freaky ezra

[unborn hound]

hung out? nah uh i want top 1 for hero legend bounce your ass is dead

[young badge]

oh breh its 1gb cant send it here

[unborn hound]

i dont want to end up like @icy otter

and not have enough merit

truly washed

[unborn hound]

8k video from yukino lesgoooooooooooo

[unborn hound]

send in yt

[cobalt plover]

Torffin you have no enemies…

[cobalt plover]

Streamable!!

[unborn hound]

250mb max

[cobalt plover]

Wait really?

[unborn hound]

yeah

[young badge]

[cobalt plover]

Brick the quality of your vid

240p will do

[unborn hound]

5 minute video 1.5 gb bruh

mf have u heard of this called compression

[young badge]

my eyes cant watch that

[young badge]

welp i guess i let yt compress it

[ripe stag]

Ok

Found a case of where SS0 Vero beats SSS0 Alisa

Is

[young badge]

also i bricced the run at the end accidentally used ss3 han rot

[ripe stag]

PPC

[cobalt plover]

What

Bro speaking in codes

[ripe stag]

If your Hanying holds something like DV Patton or DV cath volt

[ripe stag]

Check again

[young badge]

ss0 beat 3s alisa in ppc

[ripe stag]

[cobalt plover]

Hmmm

[ripe stag]

SS0 Vero beats SSS0 Alisa in PPC if Hanying holds something related to DV

Like 4 DV 4 Patton or 4 DV 2 Volt 2 Cath

[young badge]

han 4 sig 4dv vero 4 philip 2keat 2cath

[ripe stag]

Then Vero will have 2 Keats 2 Rac 4 Phillip

[young badge]

no more volt

[cobalt plover]

She needs her sig for shred no?

[ripe stag]

That too

[ripe stag]

Hanying ? 20% shred on sig

[cobalt plover]

Yep

[young badge]

joelao already tested this and this currently best one for ppc

[cobalt plover]

4 dv 4 sig sounds good

[ripe stag]

You can do something like this too

[young badge]

4sig 4dv is ts build for han no?

[ripe stag]

4 sig 2 cath 2 dar

General/warzone

[young badge]

i used 4sig 4dv

[ripe stag]

PPC can do it I think

[young badge]

i used in wz

[ripe stag]

Bruh

[young badge]

yeah i got like 7.82m last time

with ss0 virgil

[cobalt plover]

Wait

[ripe stag]

I don't even remember what I got

I hate Slash

[cobalt plover]

That week is that brick?

[ripe stag]

[cobalt plover]

Or it was on ts

[young badge]

wat

i think it was boss

[cobalt plover]

This week is brick for phys or are you talking about 7.82m with ts vergil

[young badge]

ts vergil

[unborn hound]

boss

[cobalt plover]

Saw some pretty low scores phys

Havent done phys wz yet

[cobalt plover]

Ahhh fair enough

[young badge]

ye

[noble zinc]

The skem is this i thought it's 12pm went around ruining for classes

Seeing it's am

[young badge]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[ripe stag]

Dawg how did you think it's 12pm when the sun's down

It's 12:39 AM for your country

[noble zinc]

Curtain all closed

[ripe stag]

That doesn't even make sense

You have a phone

A clock

This is what too much Malding in PGR does to a human

[unborn hound]

and time of day

[noble zinc]

none shows am/pm

[unborn hound]

big difference between 12 am and 12 pm tho

u didnt see the sun?

[ripe stag]

One is when sun is down and one when it's not

[ripe stag]

He didn't see it

I mean

[young badge]

@unborn hound
https://youtu.be/faYTMOo7ih0

[ripe stag]

I doubt he ever does

[slate gull]

bro is inside his room for days

[unborn hound]

thnx

[ripe stag]

LIVE PROOF OF GACHA GAMERS NEVER SEEING SUN?

[unborn hound]

so my score is lower cuz of hanying

i sleep

[proven hamlet]

Could you help me with Pianissimo. I have Veronica and I want to use her as my buffer. Should I go core passive or class skill?

[cobalt plover]

For vero?

[slate gull]

class for vero

[cobalt plover]

Class skill

[proven hamlet]

For pianissimo

[upbeat orchid]

I did Physical WZ at work today but forgot the rotation, beat wave 20. I looked at the rotation when I got home and saw I could have shaved off a lot of seconds so I did it again and beat wave 21, not the massive difference I expected...

[unborn hound]

u got no hanying tho

[slate gull]

bro really didnt buy buff soldier's advise

[cobalt plover]

Poor buff soldier

[proven hamlet]

Wdym?

Veronica is a buffer.

[unborn hound]

class skill is if u got hanying

[proven hamlet]

I don't have Hanying

[unborn hound]

wait i read this wrongly

this is for piano not vero

give her core

[young badge]

ye and prob can get 4m+ if got class reso han

[slate gull]

what did you expect 1 more wave to be?

[noble zinc]

Selena goes core
Vero goes class

[unborn hound]

nah he got no hanying

vero should probably get ult or something

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

i gave him a dps set for her anyway

[slate gull]

who's the third member

[noble zinc]

nana ofc

[unborn hound]

although i recommended patton instead of catherine idk if its a good idea or not

for rigor

[noble zinc]

he don't have nana/wata?

[unborn hound]

@proven hamlet

[noble zinc]

Can give them patton Vinci

Selena can solo much i remember

Ss vero does negative damage anyway

[slate gull]

negative

[noble zinc]

This cope idk if any good

Try em both

Philip /keats/ cath vero

For solo selena

[unborn hound]

i told him to use keats and cottie and philip

for vero

[pine slate]

Better use alisa anyways

Vero rot long as well

[unborn hound]

s0 alisa is not better than vero

even ss3 alisa is not better than s0 vero

only at sss does she become something

[noble zinc]

yea if swap

[pine slate]

Get sss then

[unborn hound]

fk whel

[unborn hound]

gib vouchers for ted bundy

[pine slate]

Im f2p

[noble zinc]

Pak whel

SS3nana SS3 pyro SSS donut

[pine slate]

Sss donut is f2p

[noble zinc]

[pine slate]

Ss3 nana too f2p

[noble zinc]

Wut abt pyro

[pine slate]

Pyro is thunderbolt

[slate gull]

early 10pull

[pine slate]

Still f2p

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/humpback-whale-whale-onthe12thfloor-stan-twitter-gif-3446111347746334272

[noble zinc]

[pine slate]

If we get standard reset, maybe i get ss3 vera?

[noble zinc]

Vera don't need

Diff is very smol

Both burn and fire

Selena or

[slate gull]

what about df

[noble zinc]

No info

[pine slate]

[slate gull]

nuke do my wz

and ppc

[pine slate]

No extra dmg for fire? Only 10% heal?

[noble zinc]

numbers dunno
But makes less cope that extra buff for breakpoints

that's what I'm seeing from diff runs

[pine slate]

Current wz ss3 vera would make a huge diff for me

[noble zinc]

i thought you kiwi

[noble zinc]

why

Vero bad?

[pine slate]

Both dante and vera underkill like 5 waves

[pine slate]

For fire, not igni

Igni is fine, vero good

[noble zinc]

[slate gull]

i did

[noble zinc]

If want to enjoy fire sure can

[noble zinc]

Then how

[pine slate]

Ss3 vera good for darkflow too no?

[noble zinc]

What wave you ar

[opaque ridge]

how to kiwi?

[pine slate]

I might wait to see ss3 liv too tho

[noble zinc]

That got no info for comparison

[pine slate]

Forgot

[keen sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224496219997601824/1427470046246211665/peppopiee.gif

[slate gull]

uninstall

[noble zinc]

Cuz if I'm underkiling I adjust with core extension or not cancelling red orbs you tried?

For vera

Donut you think

[pine slate]

If i core extend too much cannot fast ult dante at the end

I might try that tho

U do hold ba > 1x dodge?

[noble zinc]

Sacrificing faster roations still a deal tho

【再度突破！2.332英雄火双轻取972w-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/ovKQ75U

Like

you can't get upto wave 46 impossible

By classic

[noble zinc]

Sometimes tap ba that i do or sometmes only one dodge cancel

[upbeat orchid]

I expected to get at least 3 more waves

[unborn hound]

ss3 vera to prepare her for sss

[muted zenith]

who needs to die faster. Hanying or Daren?

[verbal wigeon]

SSS Alisa echo better or SS Veronica better?

[verbal wigeon]

...

[unborn hound]

hanying

[unborn hound]

alisa

[verbal wigeon]

Okay

[toxic owl]

Does anyone have that one chart with all the meta teams?

[fading kestrel]

lao

[deft apex]

i'm tired of people asking

they will still ask

but now it's there

[cobalt prawn]

Can add sss wata in dark?

[deft apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779376307557105677/1372637796879302727/60DE534BE54F6FD5CC6D8FDCFEB3D9D9.gif

[cobalt prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-gif-21483615

[normal sierra]

cat aboose!

[karmic anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1431385201908514817/1431391166351409152/4N12_M3.gif

[young badge]

[young badge]

Does anyone have that one chart with all the meta teams?

[toxic owl]

What does Ishmael do that makes her so versatile?

[stray siren]

Does anyone have that one chart with all the meta teams?

[toxic owl]

Check what I replied to.

[stray siren]

Observer class and passive

[deft apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/907470148473090048/1140631137568436264/caption-6.gif

[toxic owl]

What does Observer actually do? I don't like reading the essays that are the character descriptions.

[deft apex]

Observers (just Ishmael: Parhelion currently) are an adaptable Class type. For example, if you have an Ice Tank in your team, it will turn into an Ice-based Amplifier (buffs Ice, but still only deals its original elemental damage, in Ishmael's only case is Nihil damage; also will buff Nihil alongside Ice), and if you have an Ice Amplifier it will turn into an Ice-based Tank. The buffs/shred %'s will be based on the current best class and element that's being copied. Elements only, so she won't work with physical and affixes

[toxic owl]

Oh, wow. So, she amps any team?

[stray siren]

Except in physical teams

[toxic owl]

Cool. I'll have to invest more in her.

I hate Ayla ngl.

[mild seal]

Which one should I use for Vera

Which passives

[stray siren]

Well, Ayla is still better than Ishmael if you have her SSS. Einsteina has better distribution over enemies

[mild seal]

And nanamis cubs passives, which one should I pick

[slender scarab]

I hate physical this element is hopeless

[deft apex]

physical isn't an element

CluelessChatting

[slender scarab]

[stray siren]

attribute

[stray siren]

Always the one that is linked to the character > 10% ele DMG > 5% edb > 100 atk > Cub attack

[karmic anvil]

[stray siren]

If you're referring to the type of passive effect of the active attack: Always the one that has the phrase "Pull in enemies"

[mild seal]

So like this?

[stray siren]

If none of them have it, the one who does the most % damage

[mild seal]

Ahhh I suck at game terms

[stray siren]

Like this

[mild seal]

Got it, and for Nanami?

[stray siren]

Same, the same priority is followed

[compact fern]

anybody got info on liv cub?

[carmine reef]

it's mini tracksuit liv

[crude marsh]

Broken cub

[formal garnet]

I was using balter, rosetta, liv and cw, garnet, liv teams

[karmic anvil]

cw and balter are dead
check pins for current meta teams

[formal garnet]

Cw dead? No way

Cant make a single one of those teams

Whatever, ima just get whoever looks hot/cool i guess, not like I ever really cared about meta(copium)

But man this game goes nuts with the amount of events and modes

Came back and got blasted with 20 different event/new mode banners

[karmic anvil]

[formal garnet]

How do they have the time and manpower for this with wuwa

[noble zinc]

[karmic anvil]

[noble zinc]

shes 84 years old already her time is up frnd

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1421858369614118998.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PepeRunCryTrip

[karmic anvil]

cw hag

[zenith thorn]

she can go even longer

https://tenor.com/view/xain-narushio-wuwa-narushio-clownshio-wuwa-gif-16334139510714353228

[mossy meadow]

Who is the best amp for oblivion Ishmael team?

[young badge]

vera gei

[crystal rune]

Geeeeeeeeii

[barren plank]

Depends on ur team investment

If ur Ishmael is SS0, Lilith and Geiravor are the same at equal invest, so u just use whoever has higher rank/invest

[mossy meadow]

I just got ishmael she's s0 rn and my luna is ss0 with cub but still 5 star weapon cus I lost 80/20

[young badge]

this week ppc is hard or no

[buoyant hornet]

It's huaxu

[crystal rune]

Whel

[buoyant hornet]

The tankiest mf in history

[young badge]

i mean ult ppc like is it hard for casual people

[crystal rune]

Yes

Some people can’t even 580k tb

With s+ units

[young badge]

[buoyant hornet]

Shouldn't be I think

[buoyant hornet]

Seriously 😭

[noble zinc]

How much time is it for 300k hell acore

[young badge]

uh never been there

[crystal rune]

66s

1:06

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936606302082334750.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worryNodders

[young badge]

nooo

[median spade]

thank god

[deft apex]

x2

[normal sierra]

they made a smol typo there, should be:
PGR will be closed permanently after the current version ends.

[deft apex]

[gilded flint]

How much does rot and build change with SS3 Selena?

I might have ss3 selena with hopium

[crystal rune]

Oh no arrival puller

[noble zinc]

40 more to go mine there

[true pivot]

as usual, daren remains meta

[pulsar viper]

What’s nanami build for plasma wz

[quiet lily]

same set with class reso

[crystal rune]

owhh

Why do ion wz when there’s fire

[pulsar viper]

It scores higher?

[crystal rune]

Ye

[pulsar viper]

Oh

Even if I have everyone sss r2?